A guy all right: let's do this, how are you what the fuckers, what the fuck buddies, what the fuck next happening a mark mare- and this is my podcast- welcome to it today an old friend of mine and an old friend of the shows Mr Jim gap in this here. This is actually an. I realize this no brendan brought to my attention. This is jim seventh appearance on the show and now I that's gotta be more than most in their there's theirs. reason for it, I always want to talk to Jim to talk to his good hang, it's always good to catch up him, and I remember when he started. He's got a new comedy tour, kicking off called, barely alive he's, releasing is tenth stand, special which I watched called the dark pale.

And he set out to be a little dark and he did it But if you know Jim for as long as I have, or if you know him at all, you know he's a relatively dark fella and we talked about that. at the bottom I like seeing Jim, I swear to god. I remember when he had a lot more hair, but it was still this kind of work. the color he almost worked albino who's gonna stop de in a different way. Now he's gonna grown into its become a very good actor. Thank you is, in my recollection, maybe an ex ballplayer high school. I don't know, but there but it was always it it's always. A fund to hang out German always give you few laughs for those of you who are around dynasty typewriter tomorrow July, twenty fifth feet July twenty, I'll be at largo on Thursday July, twenty seventh I'll like city wise guys on

as the weapons and twelve for four shows amid helium and saint Louis, on september, fourteenth through sixteenth for five shows really five wow. Then I'm at the las Vegas wise guys on september, twenty second and twenty third also for chose and october, amid helium in portland Oregon on October twentieth through twenty second, you can double if you have pod dot com for tickets, so look the watching a lot of movies, because in the back of my head, I think studying folks. I think I'm studying I'm hoping that, after these strikes that meanwhile side to settle on a deal to option his book and we can see putting together production, and I can direct first movie- and I know this about myself when I have something that might in the future, something that I want to happen in the future, something that I think possible that could happen? yeah. I can start in the back

my brain doing a certain amount of homework, but I dont, I dont, acknowledges that. I think that's. tat myself from disappointment, but finding a zone and I've been very mildly obsessed. with these Michael e movies, Michael ii on the bbc, not the mikey movies proper, but these movies. I guess you for the bbc there there- criterion there, it's called mike at the bbc and that there must be like seven or eight well, films, air and they just blew my fucking mind the amount stacy affords actors and the depth of the characters at unfold. I don't know how much of it. It is improvised or how much of it is scripted, but he uses may the same actors in there a little greater than his waiter movies. I don't know what he shot them on, but they all revolve around kind of most of them around in class and it'll class british wife, many them

take place in the seventies, but there's one. On their called grown ups, which is just amazing about the young couple who moved into their first house, and they just happened to be living ex too, their teachers from school, which was- an amazing movie. Then there was another one about a bunch of postal workers in just the sort of intrigue and stuff that revolves around their relationships and one of them who is engage in relationships with a couple of the others, wives and ate it just it all on holds in a very naturalistic way, there's something about. cinematic, naturalism there you really don't see too much anymore I think you see it in the running of the safety, but it is pretty amplified there, but there is something about the kind of raw grainy now terrorism, of the early Michael stuff that is so provocative. And so human and I and I'd really can't stop watching it

and I know that in the back of my head, I'm trying to figure out a frame of reference, and a way to kind of no, My own personal vision might be when it comes to working film, because I've had some experience d, acting my own show not really directing, and I didn't have the proper time and we were in a rush by a kind of eerie out? How I want the thing to look. So I can allow myself, with the proper dp, an entry, you get it back. Obviously, all this stuff is on hold because destroyed is happening and we can't get at it. and I did go out to the picket line on friday tim I declare reached out to me and said: let's get some funny folks out there to support the cause and support the backers actors in the writers and you everything that needs to be supported. So we can all be fairly been stated into the future

in a way that is fair and they can't just take argo and run them into the ground for finicky and they can't just generate scripts. human beings involved in, among other things by it, was kind of fun, It was a hot out and the community presence that I notice there. It was, You go in there wareham where I'm so timid Eric, were there no the moon was air. Chelsea priority was air. Hannah Heine binder was air. John daily was air, reggie watts was there. as I did, Dana the director he was. There were all sweating it out, walking around in circles and you're, not bring into different place and not to make it about my myself, but I was out there. Two hours plus and got in all eleven thousand steps, and I don't prevention is steps. I forgot my phone did it so so yeah

I got my exercising for the day, but that was obviously not. Why was air khazars probably funny ways to do that? But but I did notice it and I got good sweat gone, but I felt I felt correct in and being present and I talk about alight named I'm vocalize my support here on the show but I thought it was important to get out there and I might get out there again will see is a big presence, whereas for the netflix and a lot of people and their work, I could got bigger you're after I I took off. I'm not going to personalize at but there but yeah, but I did it. I did it and it was fine, it was good, it was. It was and it great to to feel part of the community of writers and actors. So in other news, is adopting a kitten debit theirs story this there's a back story So here's the deal. Many of you know about my kit and charlie beans. Roscoe Charles,

draw roscoe, charlie jockey, charles gray cat now If you're not up to speed on that there is, pharaoh mother who had a litter and They all ended up under my back steps. They started out next door. my neighbour's house andrea and apparently this pharaoh mother moved them under my steps. And we do know what to do it's hard to know what to do. You want to let the kittens have the time with the mother than trap them and get them fix. Hope we get them all fixed if that's possible, so they were under my steps and she was moving them. She'd clearly moved five or six kittens from andrews garage area to under my steps. I think she was moving them again and she had left charlie, who was about to three weeks old and needed to be nursed. So I, charlie and gave him the kid who Did the nursing and now I've got to crazy, amazing cat charlie? Who is there all friends

Charlie buster an down sammy, my other cats are, right I had no idea, she moved the rest of them under the deck and then they disappeared. So you don't know what happens? You assume the worst with feral families, if a bad we couldn't make it happen, can get him fix, couldn't get under the deck and then next, I knew there were all gone so cut to a few, ex ago I I hear from Andrea next door, and she said I dunno if niece or hers. I think it was needs lives a few blocks from here. You know and He said that the mother was back with a new litter and that dead. you have charlie siblings, we're. Still whither, so Charlie just turned a year. So that's crazy, by showing the number of cairo around here the coyotes. But they were able to trap the mother and get all the kittens fostered and fixed and all of them did they all got fixed

and but it's it's a miracle like almost a year later that these survive it's mine blowing, but anyway the woman fostering some the kittens now has basically what our charlie beans, half brothers and sisters saw an kid gets it in her head. She needs charlie's, half siblings, and she reaches out to the woman. And now this is in process that she's when you get charlie half sister It's a big deal. She very excited a matter fact: it's all. She talks about and look I get it. She why like kidnapped talk a lot about you, you're, not wanting kids I always check in with that, because definitely don't want them by neo, given the nature of the relationship in our age difference. I want to make sure she is. You know on this pages makes I don't want to do, deny her the the kind of wherewith to go out and get a kid, but does

it's clear on. It and but the kitten thing like it's there an excitement around it. That is almost like a kid and that just two she is we're gonna. You know we were going to extend the family. She's gonna have she's gonna have Charlie's half sister over her place and it's kind of sweet kindest sweet how All comes around right, full circle, amazing. My empathy for animals has deepened profound. And I dont know if it has something to do not eating them, but I, I really find myself a little crazy, with the animals and plants not so much with bugs, but for some reason: get attached to plants is not weird feel pain at the edge of is studied. Studies on that at an old people,

All I know is that we are, in the end, through proceed, epoch they're, trying to date, the beginning of that when humankind started to influence I guess adversely thee the environment there looking the beginning of that being in the mid fifty's, when a radioactive sediment first started to her gather, everything like a fine part gold dust. Our. the planet, but as far as parkes. Go it feels this is gonna, be a short one and not going to be anybody to contextual eyes at historically in the future? How are you everybody good there. You go so look Are you stuck in the past when it comes to your online presents? It might feel, like you, just updated your website recently, but then you realize it's been a decade in your way behind the times,

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You stand a special is produced by comedy dynamics. It's called dark pale and his stand up. Is going through the rest of the year, including had whining dates with jerry seinfeld. You got it jim gathering in dotcom fourteen it's in this is me catching up with my buddy Jim. folks. It's time to put your pedal to the metal from twisted minds behind dead pool and zambia, land and executive producers. Will our net and anthony mackey comes to the new he cock. Original series twisted metal cain action comedy based on the classic videogame series anthony mac. The stars is John doe, a motor mount, the outsider, who must deliver a mysterious package across a post, apocalyptic wasteland if he can survive the drive, with the help of bad ass acts wielding carthage played by Stephanie, beatrice he'll, face savage marauders and other dangers on the open road. Those days

it, just so happens to include sweet tooth, a deranged murder clown played by samoa Joe and will our neck and agents stone a vicious highway patrolman played by thomas aden, church, buckler people. one's gonna, be a wild ride. Twisted metal, Streaming now only on peacock. Lately, I've been experimenting with feeling like every ok from poverty. Have you ever tried it I mean I know now. I feel like there is part of me. That's like with this special No, I saw you at the store and there is really see me. I was no longer appear in talk too much was that, a month ago, maybe month, area I'm kind of like. Would you like?

There is such enjoyment leah many and writing yan creating yet, but, like Well. Actually, I know that there is so much more to life. There are actually but emotional, you seem pretty at the very least overloaded yeah yeah. If we look at the whole concept here, your cup runneth over emotionally yeah deathly, I definitely feel like, but two the process of working on yo stand apparatus Thing is like gonna play golf. You aren't, I don't either, and you know I I I I don't it's it's odd. and I dont resent it. You don't and gulf no item resent people who play it like. I resent a lot of things like I don't, even though I'm I've I've done ok for myself, I find room you resent most specific people for specific reasons.

and it s, usually it I'll revolved around like how come I didn't get that, even though, gotten enough and I'm dying, but Some part of that never goes away and also resent people, because I think their terrible well yeah, but that's that The difference is like when you come to the euro like, oh, I guess I'm not jealous of them yet there. just a monster yet and they do well their success monster because it's also it's not true. It's not fair! or which is annoying right. You haven't even know affair is in this business. I mean like I somehow weber, life and life right, yeah and he just kind of you. You got a kind of like a hopeful schadenfreude or or like that, our ass sort of rest reassured that every body dies alone. The s. That's a beautiful son, I hit I don't know man I just at what what bothers me as I I just I as they get older. I really dont understand people here

think people our right and then liking ceased see the Gaza conflict. Definitely not theirs. They're just there's a lot of people they volunteered for there. brains to be broken in a certain way or they don't deal with their shit and Everyone has to pay for it. Somehow there just wandering around, like alone lone assassins, and some of them are lone assassins. You, I think it's I think it's incredibly sad, because I feel like most of my life, I've always had kind of this view of Well, you know I don't get the euro with my money, I its different type of comedy. I get it yes, not for me right there, decent people right, that's how applied that to all people write your I but very worrying next time where there are people that are, you know, I know it's unfair to say mentally ill cause. It's like, like there's, not one or two. There is a huge amount people that are like I'm with Satan

yeah but they think they would Jesus. Yes, there s, so the big trend. That's why it sad! That's why I'm not even angry I'm sad because it's like these are decent people, so you hope all love there. They love their kids, they love their community. I don't think anyone fully acknowledged or or assesses the power of the phone. I don't think colleagues. It assesses the power of the internet and how just like vulnerable people are mentally absolute. it's like you know what the torrent of shit that we dump andorra has ever did to think that where we can just it's ok, we can. We have a handle on that, it's crazy by the way I have I have five kids and I've as a right. Now, three teenagers year and ten and twelve her and the the impact of the phone is, I think people say it's there.

And denmark, and some of it that accelerate yet but like the impact of the phone and social media, is its sooner yeah like people every day. It's not oh you know the routine which boys are teenage girl, it's like no. They they had it. I think for a generation we looked a pair It used to look at teenager and go iris or walk ten miles in school and tears like well. You know you added harder yeah and now your teenagers habit harder. My mentor wellness you're right and we did yes later. I dont think It means you and I are crazy but like, and you know we in the point of, if you're just listing. The reason we are talking about the calmness is because thirty years ago, if you had met mark- and I you'd be like these guys- are going to kill them, so we were in trouble, but, like the thing is if we were subjected to what

social media? We're? Not? You know these kids are not compared to whose who in their high school there compared to ever one on the internet, and I don't they're, not here on by, like that weird guy that lives down the block their hit by everyone their bullied by everyone out end their taking in information there. There weren't if they watched, probably by the time, their seventeen porn than I've watched in my lifetime, absolutely absolute. How can that big? And by the way, it's like a very as you know, like, I think, our relationship with porn, we forget how weird it was at the beginning. It was like they like the first I support. It was probably the changed, my life almost more than anything else ever I give you just whether its air is pride, junior high someone had a page of something play ball younger than by like ours adds playboy or a hard core porn was like. I remember when I first saw how

went into the thing here- and I was like. Oh my I'm never going to be the same year and I think I think men are so dumb. Yeah like we like as busy is our engender whatever we are so dumb, so we watch a video and waste Something really told where but that for most of my life I have to be back. I don't to great. What happened? That's how to do it, but I like what, You say on because I, She's special has still to nicotine, oh yeah, I'm back on the last hinges and that's that feels a little bit more dignified. Less trompe was well copy and you don't have to tuna, even when it's dead, you put these in yellow more control over a menu and you get a bonafide feeling of wellness attempt it's not just sort of way maiden and sing like I can sort of rely on these two get me a lower queasy, every talent. But what am I here?

went like during the locked out like six. I swear, I didn't have any sugar and then I was like and then our quarter was during a box air getting gum a day like you know what there's like tons of sugar in this it will you do the coated ones. Yeah with our answer, causing that? No, I don't, I do regulars like oh said, dont their knots where you can make a month sweetened like as a coating on as a candy. Now now young Thank you don't want to shows in canada. That's all they have yeah. I was so because the intellectual dissatisfaction thing I mean you see like this special. I think it's a little different. Oh yeah, like you like the the the dark pale was an intention right it s like, like I'm gonna, because I think something shifted in you over. It seems like the pandemic in the trunk presidency too, where you're like. I think I have to talk about real things, a little bit no yeah

I think, they're set its maturity, and I think this is also self assignment like when I was at a year. Europe last special has dark in the title to write bleak too, dark from related. It yeah Yeah yeah I've always been kind of nihilist, but for me it is a stand up. Specials or euro or material is assignments, and sometimes, when I say assignments, it's like life being thrust on you. So it's like the tragedy that your experience yeah. It's going through the pandemic, realising that you know you know like we re girl. Today we are watching its ears, the tally of people dying right. No just the vote. We are watching sorted the unfolding of our biggest fears and theirs. much of it that we're powerless over. So you, you sort of have to have this kind of conscious denial like it is not It's not happening, that's not the denial. What sort of like? Well there's literally nothing I can do at this point, but

this out and try to be a decent and and and have as much fun if your cable, yes, I can, I don't know I can't imagine would be likely to have kids, but I remember my dear pan demagogue pandemic where, because you're one of these entertainers that do you ever wide swath the regular people who enjoy the funny- and you know, delivered for years and at some point ye I write I kind of remembered on twitter or or something where you know you stepped out of of of your persona bed, to make some statements about how you felt about the world than I knew that you the way the India, though I was going to lose some dumb dumps, yeah now that pan out. if you like, I want it, I'm Dumdum LA I you know maybe yeah I mean. I do think that. There was a europe

It's like I was I'm looking at. My kids were watching all this news. Yellow george flaw. Idea out just the pandemic them, thereby handling of that legislation. European environmental disaster avalanche disaster looking at the: u know tromp really being neck and neck with Biden imo. What is going like I, I guess I'm an optimist. I just assume people will be our guide. Yeah right old tie me and so, and so I reached the point where I was like. I also you know I was having dinner every night with my kids and I didn't want to look at them and you know if the democracy did fall ants worried, you know things They start rounding up certain people. Yes, I did want to be. Like I didn't do anything sure dear, and so do? I knew because I also that, like nobody, no heir comedian. Earth's athlete is gonna, know, what's good

oh, what who, whose leubronn want me to vote for no one's doing that by there is. I wish I would say that would have been almost better than whatever the hell is going on, but but there is something to be said, for I mean you know, I'm not that I was talk about leubronn but like I think he has done a lot of good with years. his you know, platform yet and butter, his consequences. He probably would be twice as rich if he kept his mouth shut right, but he also can look at his children and look himself in the mirror. Well, how do you do like what what's your like? I don't have kids and, and I'm and and there's no regret somebody I am thrilled about it. Yeah, like I'm jealous, I'm completely selfish and I can kind of do whatever I want every day. It is not a matter there can hang lighting or anything, but I you know I there is never a moment were where I can't just say like them. I can do that. Yeah, ok, yeah you're, a centrally an empty nestor kind

yeah, that's what happens because we all have friends that, like their kids, have moved out and then they're like alright, I guess I'm going to go out to dinner wherever I want real, or else they come back around going like hey. Remember me want to hang out I dunno you're going to have to earn it kept me going pretty hard every kid you're you're fucking out here, but it is, so hard the fbi, these friends, they need you, nine asia with I. You know I show I'm told, but I ain't there's not many, but I do feel that, although some sort of guys are showing up to do comedy again whose like who I have been doing comedy in years because they're they're, just sitting at home, well yeah I don't know if the world needed mike binder, but he's back well I think that I don't even know if he s kids but like you don't like binder, has like if he s kids in his early twenties when they were teenagers. Who was? I got it

Stay here, make sure that their leaving doing this like it's yeah well, have you are getting a master's degree in humiliation? That's what parenting is yeah I mean, and I think it is humbling and I think, there's a you know it does sort of rounds you out as a person generally, and I think that you know if you're a good hearted, responsible person. You you me bring good kids in the world. Are you try? Yeah like the other night somebody's? I did something. I mean it's sticking with me in oak as a yardstick a friend, india, cheese. This one is, bit younger than me, and you know, after over and over again about like look I'm on that can be the guy that, like you, takes away these years. If you wanna have kids right, you know you gotta go, have kids do do that in our I'll fuck. Occasionally want, when you have the kids, but the kid do being with dark, but but but she really actually is process. Didn't she comes from her her own life, but she doesn't really want them and I believe, as I pestering about it, but

I was in the green room at the comedy, store and christina p. Was there yeah and I and I brought it up as we're talking about not having kids and she says, have kids and I'm like? No, I really. I don't think that I do. I didn't have kids for a reason, I'm not judging anyone who has kids I'm a selfish, panicky, angry emotionally needy person and I you know- I don't I just in I don't. I never think I should add kids right. That's what we're My brain and then she said, grow up yeah like what fuck is. How is that a justified? What it is it? It doesn't make sense, but there is something of like. I do have an observation that I did in a CBS Sunday. Commenter about fathers day rose like we'll mile attitude. Let me set out. Is that, like I do think, I think there should be more. but that say I don't. Wanna have kids that don't have kids than people. There are like well, there's this pressure to yeah care out, but I dont want, but.

I, you know- and I had this observation, because I do think that parenting is so hard and so and- and I complained about align, I get a lot from my kids anyhow believable rang like one thing is: is that there is they either gets jealousy. Absolutely because its likes, it is just you have, You ve signed up you ve evirene, I show up with Christina p. Obviously is yeah you're you're would be annoyed, and so, when you see someone that doesn't have kids, I mean third, there are friends that, like we ve known that have like all this material by not having kids and when they are forty, they if you see them pregnant european regulator, that's interesting or older. Yet so it's like There is something about there's some jealousy, but it is a different task, not taking on that responsibility away

By the way, I don't think anyone should be required to do It is a little bit of. I would through nam, you didn't yeah yeah, my number europa you're a draft. I totally am jeremy, yeah and and by the way it's others do. between, like tromp, getting a deferment, yeah a couple times. and someone being too young to go to vietnam yeah right, but I I I don't. I assume the five of them and that wasn't just like you know catholicism now the choice what it some of it is just you know, you're married your inner relationship. A lot of people have to add that I know well. Some of it is how she doing your. What he's got it just gets. He's got no, no cancer, everything now now everything's gonna get, and but some of it is you know I mean I've been in relationships, you know it's like it's also what keeps someway what keeps your partner happy? I know

did but here's the other thing is like here's. What I know I'm doing my god, I love my kids, knowing that I know you. I d genuine, believe that I think that you will for your kids, despite the value, never home, so I get it you're, not a but I'm gonna I'm doing a marine redoing. My will and I've got you know. I've got no kids, so so the ebb like. I, I very much realize that especially when you have five and at the level you're used to living you, you know you have to work, yes, yes, you ve saved one of my fine, but by but in you like working, there I didn't either. There's pardon me that is like I there's part. I don't I don't I I feel like. I can do nothing fairly confidently right and I don't mind it. Do you. Do you know what I mean

doing nothing what we mean by doing now, I mean like. I don't feel like that. Look I dont operate the same level. You do were different types of performers wee wee. You know like like last week, I went to dinner with like moline, crawl stages. It can Joe Mandy. You know I never. I never hang out with anybody outside of comedy clubs, and it was just a no show business storytelling thing, and I realize you know I'm talking to chrome in in a couple of guys. How can we do in vegas? No, I didn't, I would never do. I do now I even think about doing vegas like. If I'm gonna go to vegas like now, there's a little club offered the strip that seats two hundred feet. Who in the arts district m it'll, go there, but there's no part, the things like they're gonna put a poster me in the casino and people that casino agreement by love that guy so super I'd. I disagree with that promise. I think you'd totally wits. by do yes just insecurity. Yes, I think so I think it's also, we ve been doing

for so long that twenty five years, go. You have information yet applying to today right, but it's like it at the mai. question would be like. Would you enjoy it? Why I feel these type of pressures. That idea, because I still do comedy him and in my own way in I've done ok with it. I have people but, like I watch your special last night and I get a lot of laughs, but I realise that you know your discipline around how you do comedy your ethic. Your work ethic is very much if you like the thing I notice the most, because I've watched the last couple of specials? I always watch special. Is that you know all your jokes are equally as good as the last right You don't think in terms of a big closer. I could just simple someplace around fifty five minutes. He died and you walk off and it, but that to me as well. It's beautiful because that's the specific job, it's like I've, I've, given you enough. pretty solid, I'm gonna go and

But you know like this is the job for me, the wrench out an hour and a half hour two hours over a year at a new one. I do that. It's like life or death and I'm trying in desperately to be waking up. Why can't I just lighten up a little bit right? Well by that I mean that goes back to our initial thing is like we have we keep doing you know like there's such a joy and like putting out a special yeah and a sense of completion, but it's also why care that be enough like for me out, For a while, there are putting out a special a year near but like what like this. Is you know right. Why? What is the is there there's joy and doing it? Does it have to culminate and the business is always shifting like when we started weren't doing special sort premium.

Everyone was interior special. They are, they were still. There was caused me in your car, ireland like, but but there, but my point is, is like what is the neck step. You know they. What is like, like seinfeld, has done a couple specialists, but he does feel the need to he doesn't feel this. There's no growth, very bandit, I gotta what now He is, I asked I think he is very much a vault. I think someone into why into this guy. Who says that the companies? for laughs and it doesn't have any deeper meaning and I've never learned anything from a comic in its just to read it It is ridiculous and that's our job, but like I think that that is his his purified kind of absolute

this approach to comedy, but I'm diametrically, we opposed it, but no, but what I'm saying is if you look at the jerry seinfeld of the late seventy early eighties and you look at him now, they're very different jury. Seinfeld today is much more out of a graphical in the eighties. You didn't learn anything about jerry like like you know. He may not I'm sure, he's aware of that evolution, the alike. I think the greatest Compliment to a comic is being able to transcend a decade near so lake being able to go from the eightys to the twin. twenty year. That's pretty significant So that's? Why, like there are these comedians that are like the floor? I read the year, but then it's because way, but I think that speaks a work ethic more than evolving

I feel, a work ethic, but also being able to like it's not just listening to the audience, but it's listening to the culture and also like all his fans. It's rare that you know if you come to be in a certain way and your fans are kids. You're in their college right, yeah how'd, you hold onto them because their forty now and they don't gotta behind him a bathing site moved out of brooklyn yeah or whereas they had a couple kids. They moved to. I think, writing. Jerry is so doug into the cultural consciousness that it doesn't matter. What age you are you. You know you're going to get a show yeah. I think that I think the yes- and I think also that what's interesting about jerry, is. where he similar to a nineties comic. Yes, you and I are- is that he is a substance over style guy. You know, whereas like he's pure substance and but he is evolved, whereas, like you

the style, a you'll, see even just on social media. There's a lot more crowd work. It's groundwater stuff and the whole thing is. Style. That's not substance, and on that criticising it. Another way it's like ie and bag is the best crowd. Were comedian. I've ever seen yes, and so it's like I love people at a real member mike sweeney minors. Weeny was amazing and robbery whose grand ed Sally he's dead. Either you don't get a he got out a long time ago. I may lay the other the guys who realized early on that sort of way. You are trying to be a comedy star who makes money is a stand up, that's a long shot I'm gonna be all right, but I understand what you're saying, but I see this whole new generation of social media, driven comedy, I just this weird you attempted cash grab and its exceeding there that there is no organize, show business anymore. It's it's nothing and people were able, or or willing to their own show business are doing it and to for better or for worse,

I mean there is like some sort of strange tribalism asian going on what comedy in terms of the use of the show. business in the centre of the country, but but like it's totally there, and what you are saying is. in the old model, there's no longevity to a lot of the complex foreseen in they figure out how to do stand up right there, life for living unless they have an exceptional personality. Late, you look at night and made is like a substitute I write me a great and I e stop him from me. I love I was obsessed with nature and we can make it so great, it's rare- that I am, is excited. As I am aware, somebody becoming, as you know, what you're that game before you say it yeah, but but light because you know I I believed in him, and he was he open for me and he was a nice guy. You know and we are opposites in terms. Of the wives who live in what we believe in everything else and like the

there. I I get upset about with natives. I think, because of his stature and his and his comedy and worried at in show business and also he's sat in his personal views in life that, like he can't talk anymore I dunno. If that's true, I've tested it a few times I'll text him and it'll be like hey. What's up, I'm sure yeah, I don't think he would be the type to do that. I'm sure I think that's I dunno it's weird because, like comedians we never see each other and so like you send some taxed and there on a plane and they don't see it narrows down their thing, reinterpreted as like armor in time I called texted bill Berea. I was like and I waited awaken. Am I I called on my account If he didn't call me back, he goes can't believe you didn't text me back. He goes. I did text you back, so I went back to the text. He did respond because we're babies already so like, but nate,

you probably met his dad. The the irene. These bodies are solid people, notably. He is like in his new special he's, he's doing something and I ve talked about it with it. what people that I've never heard. Somebody sort- isolate a specific type of christianity as a phenomenon and talk about it I mean I've heard jews talk about her black people, talk about about being black or whatever by his to take on his parents being this sort of new version of born again and then he's got there are generations of siblings believe as they. Ro discipline, oh yeah, we very nuanced, and it was. It was actually your kind of a brilliant peace, a comedy yet and it was also it really. You know or commentary on birth order right, yeah. I know I'm the youngest of six kids and you know my parents, my take was that my parents were completely mentally ill yet imo as a teenager, because they've been

But if I at what are you smoking mike? I'm twelve, I'm just sitting here by thanks for the idea, but also my guy come at it in a way and I've sort of accepted it that you, you know that massive success of a standard here. I have a good life. I make a good living with what I do and I am doing everything I wanted to do, but I'm in this upper echelons of people, like I'm, not golfing with that he found in just in timber like I don't know why dont gulf right, but never gonna, find myself in a situation. Never gonna be called by certain the people are there not sitting around. I'm gonna be funding mariner we're you like I always see myself as somebody who's. Not quite you know, in the fucking game, and that affords me the the freedom to tourists and and judge Y all to retain some authenticity? I have an interesting. I think it's an interesting there, an additive, it's a justification for this.

The ceiling I've, maybe it'll reached in my career, but my take is that I dont think you I mean obviously in my twenties, hey, I wanted to be as big as liar. May I anville. Where do you know, Geneva or or john stewart? I think now I'm like oh, has, I think, once you touch them. son that level of failure. It is theirs in a way there's no going back. There is like, like I'm not saying we don't like attention. We go on stage and makes vs life were not normal. Viagra boy like when you are on the cover of rolling stone right way. you are you know Harold As a modern day philosopher, I think that seeps in and even when you say thanks everyone, I'm done they all seem to come back after a couple years ago, a member- and I said

done anyway- I'm still on doing this now and there's nothing wrong with that yeah, but is it is weird to see. and now they gets a comment on them. I think it's comment on. They touch the sun, and they got that flavour, for you too, It's a bad comparison, but it's like is trump in four presidents, so that he hasn't go to jail or is he running for present because he likes the attack? It's not because he wants to be present right. I think it's because he wants the pension jurists, he tasted euro, and it's not like. I love air for voting on it being rich guy. He daisy than those being the most powerful perceives the world, the biggest ego stroke, and I got to do a bit that never really worked about how I came here, he's the only narcissist ever that fully succeed,

yes, I am the most important person. They know more of literally the president did a narcissist around the world, like you nailed it that guy got it so in various something interesting about. Do you feel, like you touches on now near here and you're just below it a year. You, your wings, are melting, you're, good, I'm kind of you know. I mean there is also part of me. You know you and I both love acting there is their only part of it that, where frame Fame world more notoriety, it or respect yeah would help is in getting acting role. we are then, but yet I like you, but I would want, but you do acted a lot. You are, but I feel like theirs. you know I mean, and I still to this day, whenever I'm doing press another, we were doing it during a strike, but for

for filled, the or add dramatic, after all, people are always like. What's it like being a comedian, I'm sure you get this to anyone I've Goodbye. I am db page. I've been doing this for a while, but in some ways it's just their perception, they're not wrong. There are lazy, but they they really know you as a comical at times. People just know me is this guy that does all these things. They know I'm a comic, You know by like my acting presents, hasn't been so huge, like the rolling glow was in a kind of that's that it's the comics role away like that's, not one big leaps. Why won't you put a comic in that role as a comic part per se, but then lighten the lasting that to us we film you're, that was like an outlier and yeah a third of that movie and it was the only time like you say that you like, acting in an uneasy I like acting, but I dont rarely feel like. I have to challenge myself,

or I give very annoyed waiting. Oh yeah, and so, if I'm not like you like, I took a risk with that film in that yeah. I added, I didn't accent, and I did you know, and I did, and I was a guy that was different than me our own and apply whatever craft I've gleaned from all the actors? I've talked to and and take a risk here and do this, and I felt about it and I felt a little more satisfying but butler are you bring up the concentration because there's the waiting onset, but there is also the concentration like you haven't I the idea of what you are. You want to assure you that and then I dunno a a d h, d or whatever but like, and then it's like ninety degrees, you're in new orleans or a trailer gonna shoot viola Davis's coverage first now it's your turn. We via the crews, exhausted girl,

in your like what I knew. What I was doing eight hours ago. Is that the waiting you're talking about, or are you just going to? Well, I don't know what to do with myself in a trailer and and no matter how many movies, if the tv shows I've done? I get to a point where my, what could they be doing? Oh yeah yeah, it's yeah yeah how long this day in its wake it just part of it, yeah and I dont know how to use that that time constructively earth. But let's get back to this idea that of growth and jobs because it seems to me maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that this special dark pale, like you, you did you're very self aware of what you believe. The public's perception is of you as a comment by as you get older you you're still sort of like. I know you want food jokes I gotta get But I do know that their necessarily expecting that by it seems to me that Did some like to do intentionally, you know- and I did

in a different way, but to intentionally deal with death. like, I'm gonna end, and do it in the way that you do it that way. The departure, because you did ten minutes yeah and and in that was sort of a choice rounds. Yes, it's all self assignment. right self assignment, but I really like you know have to deal with these things that are, pressing in my life or because, like look food, the everyone knows food and everyone knows him alive, the cultural points you're talking about but but death and to go into it. two to deal with the reality of it is? its risky. It is risky, and I think that was one of the things with my wife's medical crisis. Is I it's yeah. I believe like ass humans, we live in such a denial about the fact that we're gonna die. Totally I and that one

do lose a loved one year that we we cannot dip into this reality. We kind you know whether were worth sitting at awake or sitting shiver. We gonna look at each other and go out. This is crazy, angler dead and then we d up out of it, and we don't want to hear anything about it right and so that was I I learned that when my wife, whose very oh but like I also, I think, during the penance, now, so I lost a couple friends during pending. during the pandemic of it. Well, yeah, maybe covert related right. You know in terms of that they couldn't get proper medical attention, while one one it was not medical attention. One was kind of I dunno, you know, there's you know, there's different things in there. but I also feel like death. Is this this kind of

milestone marker in my life, the out like the death of my mother. They address of my father, even the death, geraldo was this big kind of thing where the the guy that I started stand up with, and so then you know my when my wife was sick, this guy in our buildings are great actor. Was you know he was frustrated with acting. He went to nursing sviazhsky was this nurse. He was her nurse and and then I lost this friend- that I kind of started stand up with also she died from cancer, so is like there was this reality eyes, Angela mutual, but she went by chuckie beagle ok and and but you'd the area she's kind of been around for a later. The first time I did a comedy contests, we're both in here and so but you know somebody you ve known, fro a lifetime, it's always devastating and end in dealing with death. Like what you're saying you know that

people die and that your parents are going to die and in that's the natural processes of so when you're you're is it were at awake or whatever, and the person was you know, time to die. If you there's an acceptance to it but like when you dealing with you know- Touching go situation with, like your wife and your ears, you know in the in the proximity of potential tragedy. Yes there, then it becomes sort of overwhelming and and your boy once in a why, yes, and there's no answer to that. So that's that's! That's a different thing and that's hard to talk about yeah, and I think that I think humans are not good with it. I think they they they could be, but I think the There is a lot invested in keeping people like it denying death is, is it is a prime motivator? For you know, sports equipment, beloved beverages gave is really driving force of of of capitalist

is, is to keep people we are eating. Distracted russia, their knives crying over time, yeah yeah so so there is a cultural consumerism exactly you know it? Okay, you know it or cure that yeah yeah yeah, anything burger right and I'm the ultimate consumer. So there is an argument that you've been talking about death. Your entire career, the cinnabon is all about death right it just well done. Interpreted quite odd understand their re down under so. What is alright right, so you ve got done with this special. You stop over there. I think we talked about this in the store your little bailing out were well. What am I doing a joke about that now, it's kind of funny about how their said zone, where, after you do something huge, within days, wreck fuck. I guess I'm not do anything again or in another you become that ralph mouth character and happy. I lost it.

So I say like an I'm sure this has happened to people in history, big people, everybody liked by improving myself, but einstein, for instance, I'm sure that after the relativity thing, yeah people like what do you got going on now he's like. I just changed the way people look at it's in the universe is. I gave us I those four months ago when he got it, and I say it: Why you look? I've been kicking around some numbers and letters wearing them up, but nothing stick unmanned right, yeah. So like I, but I understand that I mean those jokes her. an acknowledgement that I gotta get what it is, but I I don't we work the same way in terms of writing. But if I look My career in a whether I want to or not I'd every year year and a half I've got a new our nath rio and usually tape, especial which have been fortunate to do over the last few years it for a long time that there's bob, a half hour left over, so I can kind of start with that right and then kind no doubt you know, like I usually walk away from taping with a fairer, now at least twenty minutes that can keep me on

age and all the other stuff starts filling in right. Where you sit in right now. I would say you know, there's different sections. You know for me Some of it is how much you are eugenie still doing your thing, while some of it it's hard when you ve got five, you know it's like right together were lucky to have an amber, The army is an odd. It's not the good old days were, I would grab a bottle of wine after I did stand up new york. We would sit down. It's like you knock around the debtor countries and what yeah yeah. But for me it's it's different. It's some stuff just comes, out here all the family, the learning about kids that stuff, I don't even have to ride on who's gonna, tell a story in some it'll be laughing and then I'll just do that onstage and then some of it is you no kind of that change.

wench like in the past. You know like for me. It was because I was so kind of joke and topical as I already tell a story, I'm gonna tell an embarrassed story. I'm gonna tell, you know, different things or like it'll, be a topic and its iron of this happens view but like in my in dark pale. I have this can't starbucks, which sounds like the most generic topic right. It's like the one you when you went into it, I'm like nice, you can't he kind of these had if you have some filler here right, here's but here's a vague its. I bet you did a different line on what the what inspired that topic didn't, even up in it and of course, I film this ban, And then I have this brilliant observation, which is which I didn't see here is like my four.

You're all daughter, my twelve year old sire. They love starbucks like to them. It's everything. Starbucks to them is like make die when we were a right here. It is, you know or it's it's so mature, it's a dull to its still cake, poppea, it's the it's just an I missed it and its consistent in its consistent and aids and other waste of money, and they can get the equivalent of a shake yeah. For breakfast and its specialised for them. Then I think we both a you, did their joking. When I, when I came up with it, I knew it could have been a regional and, I remember, was sort of like the the muffin job, or even cake for wreck, oh yeah yeah, no, it's just but the cake papas redeem, it clearly a, but it's like because I grew louder than unlikely, the fucking, the food here I'm only its average? I have two. The cake pop is like two bites and it's not cheap but

you give them to a ten year old, it's like there but Iraq. But it's funny that you bring that up because, like much of this special and in how we get laughs, when I watch you- and I like watching you- is there not a lot of people that can that make me laugh yoke? As I I worked comics we get to it, but as I get older, I find them laughing work. I've, let some stuff go in there. There's people. They do a different type of to me that, Can I am ready to laugh. You know you nate alike, I love me more ban for the different andy, but bit by bit. So, like you do the deed, bed now near the diarrhoea stuff, which I enjoyed always quality by roger every special. All ten specialists have diarrhoea jugs. That's the theme of my life. It's It is really an running from death. Yes, but

when the starbucks came on and like at their zeal gym where'd, you get a yeah. Where are we going to go at the starbucks yeah and then it was like a totally different angle. So it's still a cultural phenomenon, it's huge, but but there was a period there where, where you kind of thought, like all the starbucks at a joke, had been done, there have been written yes, but then you know you can do this other thing and what the guys do always turn your jokes, where I get word the laugh haven't than oddly there's one line where I just got just farmers of really gonna like laughing. I will watch and watch the craft and see structure and I enjoy the call back but deadline for some reason. Like you years, did you ever go to talk about it, you did on the toilet. Rights of that about that lie were just. I went over to live as a tax. Sorry. Is that an insult added that ours now here at the time of the daily? Just you know it's like awkward. What you know I mean comedians, you know we go and stay,

ej and get approval, but we don't want compliments yeah I mean we just want, which is why I'll take them? Really, I gotta tell you the story about dice I'm in the back of the comedy store, I'm just talking to dice casino he's a thing. I want to. He always wanted to talk to because you just want to be in that we're gonna day of either marin, you know so This guy he's going on about how you gonna play madison square garden, again or whatever, whatever it is, it's a game and did the book and some guy walks of life which I'm talking the human eye and a guy walks up. Because excuse me, I am sorry I don't want. I don't wanna interrupt, mark lit, look of is going to email, you and I just never did and I'm seeing you now and I just really need to Are you that your work is really changed? My life? It got me through a dark place in euro, grateful I just want to say. Thank you. That's all, I'm sorry to interrupt any walks. Waned dice goes You know I never get tat is

as I get yet a reason I got thrown out of the house you're the reason I lost my job, but I saw something even hearing that story, I feel like he's doing a bet bilberries it, but it is also self effacing, but right that by endearing way, right but like by buddy, landed like listen to that end, Eden, diminish it right. I think it was an honest acknowledgement that self funding so when you're doing like, because, like this stuff, is about the whole special kind of long form stuff, but I also found that like when you are going to talk about stuff, you believe about whereat politically, culturally and the environmental stuff. It is one thing I think we can almost we agree on that in that year, bit was sort of smoke too that there used to be guys. It would deny it quickly and then they ve gotta, give it up. what you know. What's anything about that is I I noticed, because when

you know when you're touring right before you're, about to do the special and you are you coming hear certain laughs and the audience I was hearing. something in the audience where the end user. In the end, I'm glad that it's there, but like I'm, not glad like it was just an interesting take. You would hear someone say kind of like they'd be like I don't agree with the premise, but I like the joke right and you're like alright. You know, because there are people that just argue. Convinced that you're there there there like nights it there's no such thing as global, euro and by the way, I'm not a scientist. I couldn't defend or exploit in chernobyl warming, but I do believe or global warming, and but it is interesting that there are people exists. Even even one of those jobs is about where the evolution of people, not believing that there's people and audience anita year like its cause,

a comedian? As you know, you don't want to get the wrong laugh, but then, on the other side those people algorithm break with the promise, but I'll go with you. Will that simple? That's that's that indicates that someone's beliefs or so deep their confidence in it that they can take the hate. Yes, scary, wouldn't comes to global warm it's scary, but it's also. It also makes me feel because we're not as divided right right, nor can we all have everybody in someone's, not standing up and guy you're a global globalists right or yeah, yeah work or whatever, but but but I'm going out with a mask and no one was taped. What it was you don't need to have the mask on. Did you know I did I mean no know. I think it was February. I didn't need it right, it was actually is. You know in its work, has occurred. Get it and I was like I gotta get rid of this mask I've never done a prob,

and then I was like, and then I figure out a way to do the same job without the mask. But it was one of those things where it was John because with but was amazing about, as you came out wearing it and in their work. point were why a kind of new that was. It was going to be a bit, but we ve got into this point, and this is a different string. Someone is torn from one is it there are people still walking down the street outside wearing masks on as both like I'd there's a part of me that sort of with difficulty doing but there Other part of my brothers just ways camino but there's, so there's all So occasionally you see it on twitter. You know a friend will be like Ifd. I got covet yeah like wait, a minute. Isn't it Now, how did you get my idea very sure, you're not in and also been I wear masks during take off like Four take up my own

How do you do when I'm in the air, but until the h rat kicked into the viking filters, kick in there's no other place. You're gonna be where you're that close to that many ripe offer that amount of time. So I guess I'm not afraid I'm going to die, but am I I I'd rather not get covert or even a cold yeah yeah. It is you'd think considering the the I mean, there's the consequences, the horrible consequences, but also the inconvenience to your life that I would do our concern. How many times I got on apply? That's right, what that's what I'm thinking it's like! I don't like. I don't even know what, articles are any more, but I still have like I hadn't woman come on whose an older woman a compromise and she was a guest. she said, would you mind has taken a test and like oh yeah, I assure you that I get in and it's always this sort of, like yellow horrendous nostalgia. Where You were doing that three times a week in freaking out. Yes, you nobody because you still don't really know MIKE. I feel ok. Fuck knows yeah. Ok, but

my point is that even when you bring us, like masks or vaccines or whatever they You are able to unite because of my tone. People that I am a proselytizing were preaching or or Being righteous. it. Sometimes I am but, but you can kind of folded in any kind of still play both sides. A little bit yeah and while some of it is, I think, well there's also. Hopefully the attitude is, we don't know right right what kind of europe I think I myself or it's just so dick yours, like even religion, jobs. Yes, it's it doesn't matter of you believe or not it's just these observations on. You know a set of principles that are believed and I'm gonna to declare, I never heard the get it. I don't think I've I've been aware always find a great when people can find the cause. I talk about new jews all the time,

I semitism, but I always find that yoke is historically stand up, sir usually able to get your pretty good chunks set of religion one way or the other, though, and you get to a point where you think like well, it's it's all sort of some version of the same thing, but it really isn't like when I heard saying or if I hear of asia, minor or indian guys. Do you have jokes about religions out or know about, but you know you're doing you taken catholicism, which I had heard you. Would there with the stories that when they saint stories or what oh yeah yeah yeah, you know? I didn't you just interpreting. Imagine catholics know those stories, but I dont know those stories and right right. That was pretty funny. It's also it's just like you know. I don't know about you, but I'm kind of like what source material can I talk to her. Why can I what kind of bomb may urine and and it's it's sometimes something that is you. We feel very passionate about. sometimes it's

yeah, you don't wanna, be screaming about crescents the every I'm in now that there is anything wrong with screaming, what sort of locked into recently that there is so little feeling in life in terms of how the is going where you you, you get satisfied by justice being served yet right. So what I find his those these screening about presides. The way is. Is it's the way you you you find, you those in the world like like I'm gonna, return this right, because it's not good right and The intensity of it is like you know, there's nothing fair in the world, but I know like doing a bit above considering bringing back blueberries dolphins right. Just because, like I, why did they fucked me right now and I'm gonna go get justice like you put him in the french the next day they cover them all. He had something like that, but that it was my mistake. But did the elderly ends up like I'm, not that famous, but the idea of

buddy a month from now with his and saying, like a guy works at home foods in the guinness comic workmen who came in with goobers eddie query, brought home and washed, and then repacked now was yelling about justice. Like I threw out, I can take the hit yes, yes, but in terms of satisfaction around the special did feel different yeah. I need it felt it felt. I mean it there. Always things. You regret. I mean I the day like I want everyone choked array like eighty year I mean It is like the week before here I got a haircut and the guy who normally cut my hair. They're, so I went to this other place. And inside. This is how you are going in the hurry up and then like yeah, this guy you're. All these italians from ITALY come to this barber in need,

I can now go here, because I've had my son's there, and so then I call up and then no idea is available make because it's in the afternoon- and so I go in and they're, like other return about this other guy, there weren't turned about him about him, and then he just butchered my the only when I look at the special even look at promises for the national. It's just like that look. I don't have much heralded, but it's just these clubs that I'm just like am I what is going out with my hair. That's the one thing that happened in my last special. I finally nailed the clothes a night and I'd. Never I I I'm one of these idiots. It's sort of a week before the special I go, buy new things that I never wear again. Yes, well you're you're, like you, think the evergreen any great everyone's gonna be argue war than yours, but it's like they're, not gonna. Remember than I bet you might know what they do. Remember there like a vast like

twenty opponents were governed Ancona with leather pants. I dont know what it will do so for what what decision making? What is that and but this time like I I hired a stylist, I wore my own pants, my own boots, my own belt, so I was brought this beautiful. Or leather shirt and a t shirt am. I was right now, just sort of like. Finally, I did is right and I, but now I just get hung up on like I fucked up a joke, I fucked up area to the three blue. I feel like yeah, there's always that, but there is also the observation. Like the whole thing of I wish I could have done something about starbucks and how its it's all these horrible here, we know but like the impact that it has on children's rights is just insane say if it

if you feel like you, didn't get the full master yeah and I can't be like hey, I know I talked about it before, but he isn't everything, but the balloon story was hilarious because, like I can't even fucking, imagine that that that that the whole observation of certain like lower here. Yes, but I people do that on vacation all the time right you, how do I get it? Just it's like taking a hell MIKE. I remember when I was I used to do a bit years ago when I was married, dimensional we went to, Why and she has got us a helicopter right in a fuckin huey like that you're, not a new kind of include helicopter we just going. This is like an army helicopter where door is open and the oil is wholly innocent, strap and there have been, and it was crazy. It was like I didn't know if it was going to crash, but any helicopter can crash and you're not going to survive, but it was one of the guys. I felt like she really actually love me because, like you

one hanging out of his window, and I could feel her pulling me in and I'm like. Oh that's so funny it makes you realize why? Maybe that's why you know line. Pilots are dress the way they are so that we look at them, and I are, they just came from their job at the air vs Iraq, as there is no reason why they're like going to Deborah like owner and the military. Take your betuloides it's a cycle, but here okay yeah that guy he just came from like yeah yeah. He was probably using a consultant on top gun, yeah, of course yeah yeah, but theoretically yeah they could be wearing sandals yeah. It doesn't matter what they're wearing we're just going to go looks good real good. Does that do it that guy so with the axe? No wait like do you like do you ever because, like I something feel like you're. Maybe I need a scene study classed by sometimes feel like. Maybe I'm beyond that? Do you guys deal coaches to it? What do you do? I don't, but I'm not

opposed to it there, I think that for I had certain role. If I knew the right coach right, maybe or if I but we know, people that work as you know, ass it were, and you know- and that's that's also. The big reveal is like you work with an actor another one out him but he's like all yeah my acting coach. I go every character on like really death, like you, ve been nominees, for academy words and you have an active right, but There is also, but like even worse, with the dialect coach is pretty like Peter pan. Those tests fine during an english alexandria and unlike the it, the british or so forgiving of accidents as like? I could really facts, up here. Yet you should stay away from boston problem. english like I did texan accent, but the woman said we're going to lubbock?

You know and unlike only wrote, a means to an end, but it was like in then they give you the sort of key empowered to pronounce any kind of load that up before you the choices in and then make sure you can say the things in the way and locking other, but seem to have a pre whatever the word is a proclivity. For four mimicking anyway debris grannie, Stuart emmy. You cannot in yeah now it's fun and yet fun, but I love acting now I mean I'm not again, I'm not opposed to it being you feel like you can manage it. If I have enough time and actually when you were talking about that time in the trailer yeah I I mean I'd, go into complete obsession mode you know with the with the scene yeah and not necessarily voices but like showing up I just love the whole idea of getting an wardrobe area. You can idea a kind of gives you a you, can transfer

warm? It's not that hard transform when you're wearing a wig have a fake mustache. Her it's, and there are all these characters, that of been in your life for that kind of draw from. Oh, I love that, but but trailer. It's like I'm, usually obsessing during that time. I think, like a one one, I worked with Zach galifianakis went in his trailer and he was like reading a book and I'm like you breed and he goes yeah. I'm reading a book, I'm like aren't we about to work it is like yeah, I'm off burka like looking at those three lines: yeah yeah, but I can't yeah yeah yeah. Well, that's good! I tend to do that for awhile and then I tend to realize like why don't want to ruin the spontaneity of it. I don't want to walk out there, crazy right. You know because almost always like, if I'm given too much time on and so hard right there. there going be that guy we go,

I'm sorry, you see, I was excited, I am the hour or then it's like you, you get in there and then there are like the things, get moved and so you're in your trailer for tat of our lack of your twelve hours of, but I lost a sleeping, a lot. are you do so you can get it, but they never there's, never a couch, that's ever comfortable. Now he has never the right side and it's always covered in that leather shit that fake leather disaster. So the kids are already there good burger how will the others one? Nineteen Nineteen, seventeen fourteen twelve and turn now do they like how they feel that did the they know who you are young. They know their part of it and they enjoy it here. It's interesting, I mean I don't You know I mean your dad was a doktor. My dad rather small town banker is like you don't know what I mean

I think my seventeen year olds very funny. My nineteen year old was in a play college and she was exceptional but I also er, how do I educate them that you know in some ways, its I'd love to say it's all fate by its a fluke, a lot of friends that are super talented that they do not get. There who you are? I get me a career in the arthur yeah and its psych fee? You now have it. Rubbing party yurek, oh, I don't think they Oh it's also segmented yo. So I think that its us, a weird, because not all care It's like when we were growing up there. Wasn't this access to the end up sure, but now there's just some kids that are really understand up and they might be friends of theirs or they might not right. So you know young

kids, a fireman like hotel transylvania for their mobility. I'll show you do you know I know, but otherwise its and I think in college. You know nothing. even cares about anyone's last name. O s rights are thought probably worse in no school and maybe the IRA high school, but it's I would think it's I mean I haven't, murdered anyone. So it's not that bad, but I'm I am kind of known as vanilla. So that's probably not cool yeah, but also like it just as in terms of like, because you have the at least two voices that are dominant in in your expert. Of yourself and young. You have certain thought processes that I imagine don't. Occur in real life, yeah, so. Do they ever like you shouldn't be like I know you was ever leave. No, I that's what I think, I'm kind of yet now There's the they would

care. Less about stand up, bet, if they are brought up- and it is not so thing that would embarrass them right. It would be- and this is like new material that, like I've, been working, which is all about like it is ridiculous. I think it's incredibly ironic that teenagers yeah as teenagers were embarrassed of our parents. Yes absurd. You know it's like my teenagers are embarrassed. Like have you looked in the mirror, yeah, Jeremy and so the Whole thing is this like for my fourteen europe. Being a barrister me it's some of that too. School and me bring that up. It's not on that outing, her during major. It is its aid. I didn't really encounters with my nineteen year old but like with my fourteen year old shoes. I can you act like you, don't know Among these I know all these kids, they ve been to my house

mean Because it s so absurd, so, like me outing her there, she wouldn't care. These eleven new york. I live in your there's, no thoughts of change, I will we have a place and westchester that we got during the pandemic. Oh yeah, I love it and I have a garden here and I love gardening. So that's pretty close, so we will have an hour and a half hour right. So you just do I sometimes you're out there and sometimes rod during the summer. You know were out there and then It's not really, I'm not that social. Remained so it's not like everyone's in the hamptons earlier idea. like when you talk about going out here with curl and guys, I'm like he s, social, that's weird. Yeah yeah like. I don't know how to do that. I'm not! I don't do it enough. I like doing it's, it's it's it's it's just something I should do, but I'm I worked with my kids from

town for two nights a week and then I'm home here, five, the nurse? Apparently I can't be like an on this night, I'm going out with John mullay me year. Like my wife bill. I know you are missing wouldn't I want to portray it like. She would be like the problem I it just makes and who opens for you ted alexandra. Oh yeah, yeah he's like these hills he kills end its he's like such a great maybe it is particularly when I start over, unlike again follow this guy it's just like because he I you know, I'm like dude, twenty and then I'll be like I'll get up there, and you know you get a couple of minutes and then they're like alright where's, the stuff yeah yeah, and I can't stop and billy ted. in doing centre for thirty years We are against europe and say that these I just said opening act, he's a headliner in real life, yeah yeah, yeah, no well yeah, there is

The thing where you kind of gotta be like what they're here to see me and he's doing real well, but they're like yeah yeah. I had native them for me at carnegie hall and I swear he had a better set to be, and I floundered for the two hours it. It was like god it, but yeah Also you want to have, of course someone because it's also their experience. Nor yet it was always fire. With a polite It was really a lesson and, like I got, I gotta tighten things up. I knew I took the carnegie hall gig, knowing that my hour wasn't ready, but I wanted to play carnegie hall is a festival of course. So, sadly, for me when, when I don't have a tight, I end up I end up doing two hours of its interests, its verdict plus. I don't even know why I dunno, if I'm a glutton for punishment or I'll, keep trying or I just Don'T- want them to walk out. Saying, like you know like he didn't even try right right. This very short, it was fine. It was fine, but I would have liked it to have been tighter. Yeah I've got I've got a little more disciplined about structure where are

was good talking to you man, this been fun. Having avonlea, I pressure. Are you gonna store tonight going on a plane. I gotta go back up. Well, maybe I'll see you in the other side somewhere. I thank you. I've got it. There you go. I will, I guess, we're both fortunate. We never touched the sun. go check out Jim special dark pale and go to Jim gap agenda, convert tickets to his barely alive tour and hang for a minute. I people On thursday we have george water back on the show. He is the legendary television producer known for rowan and martens laughin. He has a. A new memoir out with lots of stories, but if you want to hear his first appearance on the show, that's all episode, eight forty, eight from twenty seventeen zero on the periphery of establishment, you're, almost now only on the periphery of europe, almost normal, but now

No, no, that's very drama! So don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody. No! I wouldn't who'd believe it. I know right, I'm having more damn fun than I've ever had with my clothes. Stop at you had better times with better people. yeah. That was the easy sale. No way we will do it we're going to do a new levin we're going to do it one. May I may do it see when you're hiding something you've already talked. I hide a lot yeah, those short yeah. You think I got hit by the bus. Every every everything I do is hiding something if you guided by the noble, that say this there's more have to be done that we're not doing. I go again. That's epoch, eight forty eight with george shorter, which you can listen to now for free in whatever app you're using to get episodes of wmd. Have ad free sign up for deputy, have plus just go to the lincoln. The episode description or go to

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