Hello and welcome to under the skin from luminary this week I spoke with the great tony robbins tardy robinson on by setting off a philanthropist in business strategies over the past few decades is empowered more than fifty million people worldwide for his business and personal development, coaching programmes and events, his new book life force. How new breakthroughs in precision medicine can transform the quality of your life and those you love is out now gin before we ve been doing the work in rank beta. We have a very productive. Actually, getting work even harder or even order there will be more productive aversion needs. I get a hobby, I think we'd better go. My sister wants me to put the notice in the coffee shop swimming buddy, you that was very specific and prescribed. I didn't foundry we'll take it, don't like that for me, but I like it when people tell me what to do

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trying to achieve equality with the annihilation of category no successful. That's exactly right and we're in this era where it turns out, we were never a fucking corpse beneath the surface of people, with more of the ideas that the finance on the history and welcome to Russell brand under the skin. Tony. Thank you so much for joining me on under the skin. That's wonderful, see Russell we're here to talk about some great you're new book life force, which I have read some off and am enjoying you talk of course, as we are, asked him to hearing from you about the importance of our men or perspective and our attitude and how that affects health. Almost a molecular level

what about reams of scientific discoveries that may be impacting the lives of lots of people now that they're going to become increasingly accessible. Why this book, why this book? Now? Why this book, a time where health, and medicine are becoming dominant in ways that perhaps we have never encountered before tony while I'd love to say I had this beautiful timing, all set up didn't work. That way, I think you know for most of my life. I get forty five years. I've been obsessed with the question of how to increase the gaudy life for people in We you areas that really make a difference in your life, your body, of course, your motions relationship finances, your career, your business and, of course, the spiritual side of life. and you know when two thousand and eight happened- I think you know russell- I I really went all in to help people on the finance side, and I did it by saying. Let me interview fifty of the smartest financial people in the world and see what they do and see. If I can simplify it and I wrote to number one

times bestsellers out of it, but you know there's an old indian phrase. It says a person with health has a million dreams. person without it has one and then and I had experience that also magnified. It is already a bio hacker. I think you know that, because it went you. At my seminars had two months- aids, twelve to thirteen hours for days and rose seven days row with tender, twenty thousand people and We got to hold people's attention and they won't sit for three hour movie. So I use my body in pretty intense ways and so I've had to always improve it. And, as the years have gone by about all kinds of great tools and found great tools, but a few years ago before I wrote this book I was being an idiot? I was pretending I was a fourteen year old, chasing the great snowboarder who, like twenty years old down the mountainside, and he could do things I clearly couldn't do and I had I thought I broke my neck. I had the worst record. Could imagine

I tore my rotator cuffs and I was in no pain on a nine nine level on a zero to ten scale, and so I I went immediately. Obviously I couldn't sleep even an hour a night, and so it made me find things. I found something called pulse: electronic magnetic frequency, pms, big words, but it's got three thousand studies and it helps start to heal this, but it also took the pain if from nine nine to five, so I can actually sleep, but then you know I went to all these guys and every doctor surgery, surgery, surgery, okay, well, tell me: how does that work? Well, you're, going to you know you may not be able lift your shoulder arm above your shoulder again, I'm like what you know might tear again it'll, take four to six it's probably for rehab and I can't be having one arm what I'm doing so as I'd heard about stem cells- and I do a mix review, some people say great. Some people said: oh, it's all a bunch of bs, so I dug in deep and I went to Peter Diamandis use. You know, he's a rocket scientist but he's also an md from harvard his good friend of mine and partner, and so my businesses

As you know, everybody who's the best to talk about this. Where, then, he said you gotta go see bob harare doctor, I and he's a neurosurgeon one. I want the best in the world. I support, I know bobby spectacular, but stem cells and it turned out bob at thirty eight years ago, was one of the fathers of stem cells. He did those original studies you probably heard about where they took old rats and getting young routes. And their muscles James. The hare went dark again and vice versa. Another it's all rats got young an exit, the orbits bombing. and rats and they got older, and so that started the whole thing in silicon valley about young blood and so forth, but that also caused them discover, what's really making it happen, which was stem cells. So Bob told me: listen your your stem cells. You don't want to use your own once you've had about forty, they drop off the cliff. He said you really need allogenic stem cells, which is a fancy word for cells that come from someone else, but he said tony, you want cells,

Some souls with a force of life. You want four day old stem cells, and I said I'm not into the field tissue. Under any circumstances. You have no, no, no, he said we're talking about cord or placenta. He said there, you know, babies are born and we used to throw them away. People still throw them away. we were to go and all they got was an ivy in a shot for three days in a row and russell the first day. I just got tired and they told me up that might happen. Of course, second day. Oh I've got a really important bees. No last after I met with you really interval guy and then all of a sudden after this wonderful niceties he looks at me. He brings out a you know, a piece of my spine It shows him on the screen and says life. As you know, it is over. So what are you talking about? He goes forget what you're doing in your career? There's, no more jumping, there's no running, there's, certainly no snowboarding. He said one got hit, and you won't be able walk again, and you know when somebody hit you in the stomach and you're ready for it's one thing, but I gotta tell you honestly: it took me down a bit.

What do these themselves on day too? I woke up my shoulder was perfect. The mri since then, of course, which is perfect, The best thing was, after fourteen years of paying my spine, I stood up with no pain in my spine for the first time, and so I became fast actually saw you right before about three years ago I got invited to the vatican, I came and did your podcast, and we did that. I guess we did mine as well, and I left you to go to the vatican and it was a step in the wrong direction. A little but I I there's a three day conference. They asked me if I would do the cleanup speaker, but I was like man, I'm not going to just go speak. I want to go, tat all these glasses. So I went to him all and I met like eleven year old boy at four years old taught you to six percent chance deliberate, his sister stem cells saved him and he's totally healed. I saw people who have been sent home to die, who wouldn't give up, and so they did. You know different forms of stem cells or other forms of treatments cause. Not just the

cells now. So, as a result of that, I I want to. I wanna get this out to people and as a result, I started work on this book, so it's been a three year project and I'm excited because there's a breakthrough that will be able to talk about here that people can access right. Now that will change people's lives like they can imagine cause. There's this the same kind of technological changes, Russell that took us. You know where a microchip used to have four thousand. You know transistors in it they're a buck. Each was four thousand dollars now you get six trillion and a microchip right and it costs less than a a piece of a penny. and its source sixty three hundred times more powerful. It's four point, two million times cheaper. Well, that's! What's isn't help those were all code rights. I'm sure you ve heard about crisper jean editing, so I've been exposed. I love it and I decided to write a book that could show you how to increase your energy. Your strength, your vitality, if you're a peak performer

as someone who just wants to feel good, but also, if you're in trouble. What are the breakthroughs that are happening in cancer? What are the what's happening with heart disease? What's happening of alzheimer's and I put it all together and I did it the way. I did money master the game. you two hundred and fifty nobel laureate scientists top agenda medicine doctors in the world and so nothing. It is my opinion. It's all their work under his brain two people and then I'm donating just like I did my last three bucks: a hundred percent of the profits millions of dollars are going we're gonna feed twenty million people, you feeding america and then the balance of the profits are going to do alzheimer's cancer and heart disease research with three of a top researchers in the world. It sounds like

what's happening, is in the field of anatomy and biochemistry there's this us of a pivotal moment that aligns it with technology but tony, how come this won't pass through the usual commercial fillers that mean that it remains inaccessible to all, but the most wealthy individuals. When will this become something like me, I'm like a relatively wealthy vigil, and I'm already thinking all right, while stem cells, I'm going to swap my knees out, it'll be fantastic. I'm in my forties, mid forties. You know I want to be healthy and strong. In the back of my mind, I feel like okay, though, but what about people who really really need this? Not for sort of like the privilege of great health, but actually for vital stuff? Is it not going to be have ring fenced in so good in a commercial place that many people can reach? You It really surprising I mean I'm old enough to remember when I had won the original cell phones, and it was you a foot, long, two pounds: it costs four thousand bucks obi like ten thousand dollars in today's money you charged

six hours, so you get thirty minutes of talk time and so wealthy people bought it or people that really wanted a cell phone. But what that does is it brings the price down rapidly? I'm sure you know the esker, that's taught about what happens in business, it's already happening, even when stem cells. When I did my treatment four years ago, the cost of it was expensive, but it was less than the surgery and so and I got healed in four days without surgery. So for me it was not that big, a decision, but I just recently went just from superb rejuvenation and it cost half as watch, so you can do like if you've got an elbow or a knee or something like that cause less than the price of a laptop, two or three thousand dollars, which you are plenty of other therapies, cost that much or more today, if you have something more significant, it might be seven eight, nine or ten, but the surgery is almost twice that so it is an what's really. Nice is some of these things are already with insurance. Some examples. This is my blog. I just recently saw this. There is a new thing.

incision was brain surgery sounds crazy, but for people, parkinson's or the tremors I to watch this woman. She could of across the room they use. Superpower edra sound it takes in about an hour to find this. in your brain is creating the tremors, so levies on fifteen medications, What caused the room? Linley shaken like this, have you ever seen, but you get those audio implants for the first time in the here and start crying so emotional. What this lady, when she stepped up This is an outpatient service. You don't go to the hospital for it. She gets up walks across the room. She can't believe it. She picks up a glass for the first time, just drinks it last week. She just did a fifty mile bike ride two years after the initial treatment that she did so and this is covered by insurance in the united states and it's starting to happen anywhere because it's cheaper than the drug

the therapies that go on and on and on and as a result, that's documented. So everything you can imagine, but I'll tell you some of the most important ones that are not expensive them. One of the most important ones is diagnosis. So let's talk about the big scares the people have, I love talking about performance will start where most people live, because when I wrote this book I went and did all these surveys of different age groups, and I was blown away to see how many people in their thirties and forties are worried about cancer. I couldn't believe it was like eighty percent or alzheimer's, probably because they have a parent or grandparent who's going through it, so cancer. This is what's really interesting. Every person in this book, these incredible doctors and scientists who created these breakthroughs, virtually everyone lost somebody to the disease. They study, they lost the husband or wife or a super close friend or a child, and it pushed them to breakthrough so that you don't have cancer. The biggest problem we have is natural cancer

society describes that if you get cancer and you find it at stage three or four, your chances of dying are about eighty percent. Now, twenty percent- don't that's the one I'd be counting on, but that's what they teach if you catch it at stage, one or two it's between In many nine point, nine percent chance that use revive. In fact you catch an early. It's an outpatient thing, it's no big deal, so why do most people die? What we abandoned rams column ask a b. So what are we doing about half dozen cancers, this new blood? This man lost his wife, he worked with. Google is a genius and he created a blood test. It's called grail it's available right now. It's just come out fifty different cancers, it'll search for and catches them before you have any symptoms whatsoever. So when you combine an mri which is common with this blood test, you literally can know it's going to your body with absolute precision or give another one heart: disease, heart disease.

is the number one killer in the world of both men and women right, and so what do we use? While we use a c t scan, some people have had to go see their doctor about. Those in one of my partners about six months ago. Calls me and says tony goes: there has been a breakthrough, the biggest break in cardiology in the last ten years. That's that's a big claim. What is it he said? Tony, you know when people try to read it. these cities gal, I'm looking to see another part build up in your body, the calcium build up he's ever. They cannot tell the difference. I'm at great off scale of the city scan. How much is hard and plaque, which means your healthy versus soft black, which can break off and give you a heart attack or and he said so. This new I brand new, takes jerseys. Gad digitally opens up every artery in your body.

goes through it and looks and measures is this hardened calcium, which means you're totally healthy and fine or is it soft? I said I mean I'm gonna come through the test. Why not, why not know cause? They can predict a heart attack five years in advance and shoulder to prevent it So my father was ages. Daddy was here, am use visiting and I said daddy's europe all he was just about to turn. Eighty years old and people around him start telling, You know you've got to arrange your affairs and he's a healthy guy, but you don't know how you are and he's worried, and so I said dad. I said why don't you come with me? I told him I was going to do. I said we're both at a stage of life. We're gonna have some soft plaques, but they'll tell us what it is and they'll give us a score, what to do so. He agreed, so we will fly down to the center here in Florida we have- and it was the best experience because my father in law was used to be like a lumberjack arizona. Does us he's clean as a whistle yours not want everything is hard and is zero concern.

He's gonna hurt, like you know, like a twenty five year old and so completely changes respect it didn't. While there we have this treatment that that's been done for a lot of the world's greatest athletes where the team will scan you would alter sound guyana ankle. You bet I twisted and broke one time years ago but the nerves are always so sensitive. The four years that someone new of came like even a misused to touch it, don't touch it be like electric shock. The nerves are so sensitive we go. A battle with the problem was five minutes. They inject em your fluid same thing. You were born with inside your mother's womb. It opens up the fluid in the nerve you're like a little pop, and I know I can smack it and no pain. While my dad, at a hip problem, and you know when you get now you're eighty years old and people turn you're older, and then you can't walk right. You know your mind starts to take over, so they did it

it's been twenty minutes, he's walking perfectly smooth. We get on the plane. Is my favorite moment right cause? I love them so much and he says that he sits down. He goes. You know, tony those people talk about living, one hundred and ten hundred and twenty cause. I dunno about that crap, but he goes you know hearts. Perfect, my hips perfect of another twenty years, the other for another. It's time, you've only been married to my daughter twenty two years and he's completely changed his perspective. So these are not super expensive things. These are things that more and more we covered by insurance. Some of them are out some art, but there is your life and to know what's happening. Advance is so priceless, so I see. What's happened is like that. There's a coalescence of various technologies and diagnostic methods that you have compiled into a compendium

Your book life force working with a team of global experts to distil this information, as you do so well, always in a manner that is accessible and understandable to prove its present solutions to some of the biggest health problems that there are in the world in addition to staff this last year, but also bloody inconvenient and is accessible, I suppose, and if their, if the barriers Ah nor financial. Are you suggesting that they sums of ideological or institutional barrier to these treatments that prevent them being accessed will introduce a figure this, where traditional medicine

everything is slow. You know there was a study done at harvard in two thousand and seventeen and they showed something fascinating that the half life of a medical education was between eighteen and twenty four months and they projected by twenty twenty do now. It would be seventy three days that means whatever you learned in your entire medical school half of it is worthless within sixteen to eighteen or eighteen to twenty four months, they're saying seventy three days now You can keep a longer period so now who educates them the pharmaceutical salesman? That's who does the education? That's how we end up with opiates, because the pharmaceutical people lied. Do you actually get a doctor who so committed to helping people, and you find out you prescribed? Drugs have been caught. Some under become addicted or die, and this unfortunately, and more often he can imagine, but it's like when I want to do my stem cells. Every one of the doctors said: oh, they don't work, they're worthless, doesn't matter, but you know I talked to the doctors that are special, in regeneration, and they-

it no no some are worthless. Let me show you which ones are the right ones a day. Let me show you how to do it and that's what I try to do for people in the book sean what's there, but it's all I want to take. We fear, because your reply, I get a lot of people, think I'm indestructible cause. I'm so passionate intends who crazy- and you know I have a- I- have an incredible sense of calling to help people it's been with me forever. Out of the work of the devil. I life, but I work harder now than ever, but it doesn't come because I'm so indestructible it comes because I've been through so much pain, and I don't want anybody else to suffer, and I can remember when I started my career early on. I was working eighteen twenty hour days and then I got these breaks. I got to work with these great athletes and I turn them around. You know Andre Agassi and people like if the tremendous credit bill Clinton, the press, the united states and sort of really young age, I have all the success and there's a part of our brain. I know you know it. We all know it as humans. If that survival part, you know, I didn't know how to manage it. Well back then, and so this idea got stuck in my head, that

maybe I got all the success because I'm going to die young, not I work my ass off and I got good grace in my life or whatever it is, and I didn't think about, like I'm, going to just be hit by a truck and disappear. I'd have these nightmares of dying of cancer slowly wilting away and, of course, whatever you focus on enough in is your life. So, first time in my life as a tumor, wasn't me it was literally. I was twenty years old, Maybe nineteen and my girlfriend at the time comes in crying uncontrollably. I'm like what is it? What is it cause my mother, my mother and finally, she said she has cancer, and then she said they told us almost nine weeks to live I ve been me, I don't if I were to have the same resolution, but you know most of us do more. For people we love and will do for ourselves- and my

the thing that there's always an answer kicked in, and I said, stop this. I said there are people who have had stage four cancer and recovered all over the world. We need to find out what they did. We're going to study that we're not going to just sit here and let her die, and so I did what I do best like. Just like I've done this book, I'm a massive researcher. I go to the sources and I found a book back then called one answer to cancer, and it's not the book. I'd recommend today cause there's so many better ones, but it was written by this dentist who was told he had six weeks to libya, pancreatic cancer, which is one of the most deadly, of course, and he did this, them to detox why his body and he took pancreatic enzymes anyway, fifteen years leaders help you know cancer, so I said: listen there told you gotta die river spoken see if these interests you I'm going then do that as a man thinketh just to help her manager head, reminding her emotions and she went for it. So in about two weeks she actually felt better sizable. She sounds like she felt like she had more energy

and here she had a tumor on the back of her shoulder. There was protruding out, and then she had one inter feminine organ: and that's why they sent her home to die was spreading and after ten weeks she was still alive. She was to die at nine weeks. Her doctor turned store she's in her early forties and says: well, let's do exploratory surgery see what's going on and you came to me and said: should I do it or not? You know I'm a nineteen year old kid at the time I was like you have to take that decision, not me, but I dunno. If I'd do it, you're doing well. Why not? But he convinced her and only found an entire body was something a little piece of timber, the size of my pinky uneasily, ridiculous and the doctor said this is a miracle and she said it was a miracle. But let me tell you what I did. He goes no, no! No! This is a miracle. I want to hear what you did spontaneous remission was in a voice. Now she's in eighty she's go live today and that's what change me it took me from fear of these diseases two saying: I'm gonna make my body a temple, I'm gonna make it a performance machine, and you know

even in my events, so like babe measurements indicted you, Tom, Brady and olympic athletes have maybe this device, and they measure me for twelve hours a day, actually nine hours the battery died on a seventy thousand dollar device and I kept going another three hours, but they found they've done it. For me, for three years I burn an average of eleven thousand three hundred calories onstage in just one day. The equivalent of two marathons give me an idea or two nb basketball gains back to back without a break. I jump a thousand times explain to me. I weighed two hundred eighty two pounds. Every time you come down it's four times your bodyweight. So imagine a thousand jumps hundred thousand pounds at a million pounds of pressure in your body in one day on stage

and when they do my bone density go these are humans, user. Let the gaff leads. This is something we ve, never measured before, which my bone density from that the man. You know my laptop gas it if you ve ever gone for jogger run with a friend and you get what you can't talk. Could your lacked a gas? It is it for I'm still speaking it ain t. So I used Well, this to be able to perform like this and then tumor shows up in my life, and this is now I'm thirty two years old and I'm now really. You know I have a different mindset because of jenny. What happened with her years before twelve thirteen years before, like I went on a helicopter pilot, and so I went to renew my license in america, you have to get a new physical every two years, so wait for normal physical and then I left and then the guy,

I kept calling my sister and said doctor wants to talk to her. So please just send the report ram too busy and I come home one night and there's a note stapled to my door, saying it's an emergency. The doctor says you have to call him tonight while they thought I was getting home at six or seven. So I now my old fear, shows up. You know what I mean: it's like. Oh my god he's a cancer I've taking such good care of my body. I work at a tree and eat well, but I'm in airplanes is it radiation? The mind goes crazy, and so finally, I was like I had developed this centre inside myself at a creator, if the man dies once a coward a thousand times so I shut it off, went to bed woke up with total foreboding called him up and he goes. You have a tumor in your brain, it's what You said a tumor at the base of your brain that your pituitary gland is. How could you possibly know that he said did a special blood test on you, because I thought you have a lot Ro form. One is allowed to figure that out. I got hands bigger than your head and six seven. I was five one. were you in high school, I good ten inches in a year guys I sixteen do so.

So obviously I've got a growth hormone, so I think you have gigantism and he didn't have a good bedside manner. I said well what let's say I did this: what are the side effects? And he said well, I have to tell you could die, but the most common one is. Your intercom system will never be the same, so you won't have a lot of energy. I said: well, that's my life and I said you know I gotta get a second opinion, because you know now there's lots of studies on this or the latest. One was in twenty. Seventeen also for the mayo clinic, here's what they found on. Secondly, they tell everyone you get a second of being, even from their doctors and reason as tuna is its clients. Patients they went and saw and found that twelve percent of the time, the first and second diagnosis and treatment people. That means eighty eight percent of the time they were different and thereby giving multiples. They refine the diagnosis and found out something better. So even for study. I've seen this eyes like I gotta get a second opinion, so I went to here's a surgeon wants the caught me.

So I said I'm going to neurobiologist you're a gentleman who was over in Boston and he was completely different. He was super nice man and he said, listen tony, you definitely have a tumor in there. It's infarct a bit. It's swallowed a part of itself up, but it's still pushing growth hormone. And he said you be crazy- do surgery because he said you could die normal side effects. He goes. I think you should go to switzerland.

It's a year and get an injection that keeps your heart valves from getting bigger, which is what kills you with identify them, and I said well, but my heart valves are bigger. He said yes, but then you'll have certainty, I said, but couldn't the drug have side effects? He goes well anything's possible, but it's highly unlikely and I said well what if I did nothing. I said you know that this guy wants to cut me. He goes yeah. He goes. The baker wants to bake, the surgeon has to cut, because I want to drug you, that's what I do he said and he was really just the nicest sweetest man. He said. I guess you could do that as long you measure, and if you see a change, then you could do something, but when you rather just forget about it and thank god he didn't do it because, six months later the drug was only in switzerland. They did not allowed to come to the us because they found it created cancer. I went to six other doctors, the end of the story and the last one says to me: tony. You have a huge amount of growth hormone, no question the tumors in there he said, but tony you

cover. You ran two marathons a day four days in a row, your recovery, two days later, three days later, you say I can't explain it except your body's tissues are healing from this growth hormone and he said I know bodybuilders will pay twelve hundred dollars a month to try and get what you get for free. So that was when I'm thirty two I'm now sixty two in a couple of weeks, and so in thirty years, I've had no challenge I've measured every year, but he changed my mindset and it didn't make me disrespect the doctors that made me respect him more. I just wanted to find specialists answering your question. You gotta go people, that's there, especially otherwise they just poo poo everything cause. They only know what they know and their education is quite limited in terms of it's length, but I tried to explain to people. Docs are like like if you're walking down the street and there's a river beside you, and suddenly you hear someone screaming the docks, the first one jumping and nothing about their own life, pull the person and give them out

I saved their life, but as soon as they do, they are two more screams and they say the first one said the second one and then there's former screams. So they don't have time to go upstream and he was throwing them in. So I'm dealing with the doctors that have gone upstream and seeing who's, throwing them in and figuring out, What to do, and it's just like anything else in life. If you do what the average person does you're going to get the average results which, in the health area is not terribly exciting, but if you go to the best and that's why I've tried to do is give people access, they don't have to be wealth I've got access on, bringing that everybody very much like a david money master the game on the financial side. Twenty I can city More than a mentor and a teacher in case anyone listens does nobody, you know will probably said in introduction which have subsequently record. I love you and I admire your brother. Thank you very much now like said this book, I fooled: but you're like a reality expert that whenever you turn your mind in your attention to something were reached, like

polo, you become a panel of experts in a week or if it's you know dealing spontaneously with the us the crisis, of nine eleven on one of your trees that one of the stories in this book, then you handle that perfectly. So I recommend this book. anybody who is interested in their own health with the help of others enough the lack of a range of inquiries, that of travel of that are between that, the most personal. Unless I want it for myself and even frankly, my dog, I would stem cell research. Furthermore, dull can lift aren't they actually have a new company that makes your dog live longer, using some things they can give humans? Yet it's in the book believe or not it's At the top geneticist at harvard because he loves his dog so much, he put the focus there. First, he could get approval there first, but the work they're doing with dogs is going to be done with humans over the next three,

it's so there's things there for your animals. Do believe it or not good? Well, I'm in that's the first, that's probably the first thing about albion, because you know when you look at bases. I, like the topics covered in your book. You obviously bring us to the inevitable in a electable, unavoidable conclusion that the most important thing is life itself, the machinery of our body. When I was reading the book of inner have, as I said you afraid to let the beginning and the end of the book. I was struck as I am again gangs of ten days. Your events as you've said I've read all of your material and I'm beyond. As I say, beyond a fan of your work I believe very, very strongly and what you do, and I thank you and I feel that there is some like the yours. I sort of well no sort of wore a shaman about time, and the conventional journey of the shaman is personal destruction and putting yourself back together again when you talk as you do so, of consistently about their poverty, a of your early life and some of the of neglect and abuse. Even though

we're, always very careful to frame it in a way that is uncompassionate to the people that were involved. Like your your mother, of course, have various partners, father figures or fathers? Have a? U turn. The very compassion about, and even ikea windows, looking about the medical profession that you're very diligent to avoid blaming language around the medical profession. With your analogy there of rescuing people from if the amount of pressure that their operating under I want, I wonder how a new when you're looking at the world now, given that you now, if you turn your attention to our finance, an incredibly complex world, you're able to utilise teachers and experts, and when you tell him

if the help you're able to do the same thing. I'm interested in what you feel tony about what's happening in the world now from both, I am a political perspective, without any particular deliberate focus on the pandemic and the nature of the pandemic. I mean more broadly that we seem to be living in a time where there's a sense of deep mistrust in and suspicion around media. The government big business that there's a lot of conflict and difficult a part of what you do is very personal and very spiritual. Part of what you do is like it's like dealing with this is reality is how I see you. I feel tony, and forgive me if or if I'm simplifying or being productive. or even incorrect, this is reality. This is how to deal with reality. I have been inflicted with this condition of like how what's going on what. How can we change that was happening there? How are these things intersecting in this way? Why is this happening and

I wonder how you feel about that: I wondered light because the other thing- and I mention it and if so of alluded to yourselves yourself already that even by this peculiar accident, which could have obviously go in different ways about this issue by opportunity kind, you ve become some sort of little boy, on a person can jumper dennis buyer use tat. I say I thought I, like you, know our mutual friend Nicole. I the creator of the tapping solution. Diapers, like you kindly introduced me to new. I deeply love now as well like anyone we talk about. You sometimes and I like go. Let the thing is tiny, he's an amazing person to have in your life as a mentor and as a role model for like how, like I spotted him, but whenever updates are like walking the dog or like just sitting down, or ima, NAS harry potter, god tiny- would do this. What am I doing with myself? I find it hard to picture you, as they still have lackluster adolescent that can't cope with life is invite. You know that you ve got this radiance and that you must have always had this radiance. So how do we live? Firstly,

I guess you know I mean I know you like even began to some not apologise to the breadth of the question. How do I love it? Had a normal people plug into this force in the source inside himself. Of course, we ve covetous medics speak, but so much of it is about reaching our central nature and mobilizing it. How do you use personally say what's happening globally with the intersection of technologies, the kind of hypnoses? This seems to be a curving broadly and generally. Let there is that sapping people's energy and strengthened will and how do you see how the personal and political aspects of that combined and is something that troubles you and that you have feelings about? I'm a student of history.

and if you really study history, see history of cycles and how they run about every eighty years, and I you know when I worked with president bill Clinton years and years ago. He gave me a book that he was reading at the time. I saw it on his desk and I asked about it cause it's one of the best books. I've ever read. It was called generations, it's a very big book, like seven hundred or eight hundred pages. I guess my books are several pages. So, but it's it's a big book large book and it studies the anglo american history over five hundred years and shows the cycle between generations and how generations form a pattern, because, even though you and I might be raised individually different culturally, we go through patterns of how we react to our own upbringing and how we bring up our kids and then what occurs. And then they wrote. There's a book by the same authors: it's not an easy, a simple read: it's not a fun read, but it's one of the most valuable books ever

I read it. He was at a barnes and noble, but you know they have those places where the books that are on sale, throwing away and I'm a contrarian. So I always look through those books because usually you'll find some gem in there that just isn't popular right now and the book is called the fourth turning eye. We recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it, and it shows that we go through these cycles in history, so think of it. This way, for a second russell, let's back up thirty thousand feet, what makes anyone have power? You have a great power with your Your languages, unbelievable, really met message has I think, if I could speak like that, I mean you, like a poet you're, just unbelievable unbelievers. I felt like I just I love your metaphors. I love the way you speak, but the point is, you know: pattern recognition, there's three patterns that make somebody powerful in anything finance, business, entertainment, parenting, health, the first one is I didn't recognition. The ability recognised patterns take things, some chaos, which is what this feels like right now.

To say now there's a pattern here and if I understand the pattern, perhaps I can develop a second scale which is learn how to use that pattern not be used by it like you know stress, is a pattern. You either use, stress or stress uses. You stress is going to be there, but if you can recognize it learn to use it, it's a different piece, and then there is a third skill which is pattern creation. that's what you do Russell. That's what made you so popular like you, used combination of your entertainment and your in your intellect in your communication style, and you got for four and a half million people that are following you here. You're up there with your bob cnn by about four or five times here here above euro tucker karlsson is like one of the biggest here you not quite a joke, rogan yet, but you're certainly move in that direction. So

You have combined these patterns that you ve learned over time to be able to get through to people in a unique way, but think it this way. The person whose great in all the people of either a billion is start with nothing. I'm not people, not time people inherited it in a re, dahlia Carl. I caught Warren Buffett. All of them got really good at recognising patterns in markets and finance, and then they learn to use it, and then they learn to create patterns of their own that allow them take even greater advantage of the opportunities in front of them. So if you look back up a second, when did you may did transport at the thousands of years of being survivors, basically running around trying to scavenge for food right wing hunter doubters. Well it all change with one pattern. Recognition, the one that changed humanity is recognition of the work of the seasons of the first time. We could stay in one place because we figured something if I plant in the winter

it doesn't matter. Lord, I work. I got a plant in the spring time and then I gotta take care of things to the hot summer and then I it's a reef in the fall and thereby better hang onto some of that, so I'm prepared for the next winter to survive. When that pattern was created, we built communities and then eventually, cities and then states and then countries If so it's one of the most important patterns in what you learn from that pattern is, if you do the right thing at the wrong time: you're screwed, it doesn't matter how hard you work right if you carry the right thing at the wrong right time. So that means Ending patterns now there's a pattern in our lives. You know I have a ford, euro dollar five gives invite blankets cyber forty. Your daughter to my daughter, old daughter, as of yesterday, turned ten months right. That was one of the few things about covered. It said my wife, let's give it one last shot and it worked out. So it's such a beautiful gift- and I know you have two daughters as well as I know you know what I'm talking about

think about this? If we're going to see the stages of our life, there are seasons, also think of zero to twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one as the springtime in springtime. You don't have to work about growth. Growth happens, automatically growth happens right but we grow happens easily when you're a spring time economically. Everybody is doing. You of the world is easy to do well, business, wise finance, wise. What of it it may be. A few seasons can be found in history as well, but start with a person so zero to nineteen twenty twenty one around nineteen, twenty twenty one. You become your own person now some people. You know I had to work when I was thirteen years old, some people start sooner or later, but Well, that's the human experience, so the first twenty years life is giving you education or teaching you what to believe, and then you turn to staging an hour to decide what I believe I'm going to test this stuff. That's twenty one to forty

and basically that's the summertime. That's where you suddenly think you know you thought you're going to be passed, the united states and a billionaire and have fourteen husbands or wives, and now you find out you can't even keep a relationship together, cause you keep screwing shit up or you get addicted to a drug. well. Well, I'm working my ass off, but I'm not financially free enough. Far from it. I haven't figured this out, so you go from indestructible over those time periods to humbled and if you're smart, you don't give up and you educate yourself and find answers, but most people in that stage start to give up they give up on their dreams because they've been disappointed, they've been hurt, have had people, had not taken advantage of them, we ve all been through that stage and you never goes away completely, does hopefully get smart right. So now

Thirty one or forty two to sixty two is really considered the power stage if you plant in the springtime and you take care of it during the summer, that's when you have a chance to really have an impact and grow. That's when you become heads of companies or you have your own companies or you are the best thing, your entertainment, that's where your brands like yours russell, I mean last night, I was trying to figure out where you were so. I could reach out to look up and I see you're performing but also see, sold out cars like that for us, of course, the sold out middle of all this craziness he sold out

because you had built that brand of who you are because you've delivered for those decades, even when you're having troubles even when you're dealing with your own demons, you still delivered for people, and so it gives you a different platform now that you're, healthy and strong to do different things and then arjun sixty two or sixty three to eighty three is elder hood and if you're lucky, that's your that's where you return back right, you're, you're, going to go to the fall! Think of the reaping time! Sixty you know in that forty to sixty two now it's wintertime again, because your body's going to age is going to change it. If you're lucky you get eighty two to one hundred and two I mean the oldest living humans, one hundred and nineteen in the stats, a stage of life where you get to really be a mentor. Now some people do it earlier, but that's really you want to get back and then, hopefully the very end of your life, all the good you've done,

well good for you, because then you get a bit aged and you might need some help. That's the human experience when your last example, history has seasons and when you understand this like a thousand years roman history- and you can see this like clockwork every eighty to one hundred years- you see the same financial challenges. You see the same challenges internally, but here's what happens? if you think about it. I give an example to make it easy in america, We have a generation, we call the greatest generation now the guys in Ladys that went to war war too far and came back as the heroes, let's back up a second and see what their life was we like this is really important for anyone is listening- is a millennium or z generation person right now, because so many people that are older, look at them and they go there wallflowers or with the where they use for them.

as snowflakes they melt down anything they want protection, they're crying about something at the law school. Somebody said you know it just it. There's there's not the respect so think about this. If you were born in nineteen ten, every just think of this for a second world war, one and shortly after that and if you're in america it was like, it was a great celebratory time. I, the roaring twenties, began and so you're heading into your teens and technologies coming out cars parties, it was a. It was an unbelievable fall, meaning a reaping time right after going through the hard summer right and so what occurred well winter yet, but when it hit or if you're born in nineteen ten, when you're turning nineteen and you think you're gonna have your life. It was nineteen. Twenty nine people jumping out of buildings, people in the mid west. It was the dustbowl everything everything was destroyed world as we not look like it was going to end. was a new season. These is usually last about twenty years right

new season began like when these kids entered that incredible important part of their life, and they were before that in its flapper you're. Seeing the way a lot of people talk about, millenniums or z generation argues milan ones that their their old now millennium so used to do that, we have been resolved to me now. They argue about party you're in the middle on the side. It's the silliest shit in the world, but it won't stay that way because when they went through that ten year period and they made it to twenty nine, they didn't get relief. I t and when twenty nine was nineteen, thirty nine you're not do exact note. We were

why, then you and I, but anybody was- will tell you. We were look, looks like we're to lose. Your country was being bombed by crazy hitler was rolling across europe. Now all hell was breaking loose. It look like life as we know it is over, but it wasn't and what happened these weak people that recalled labourers, flappers and weak and they went to war and the demand made them incredibly strong and fortunately they won. The war came back a baking heroes. So what was I got? A war to an elite the forties fifties to the early sixties before Kennedy was shot, he was a new springtime. Winter had gone twenty years, then we got almost twenty years of springtime is one of the best times in america that people remember now not if you are african american, not if you were maybe a woman as much but for a segment of the population that was dominant, it was but then what happens. You go sixty three to eighty three, gonna be shot. You have kids were king shot. You have Robert Kennedy shot. You have this total

turning to enable young people, people are fighting. This happens by the way. If you re these books, it happens like a cycle. You can go back a hundred years and say the exact same cycle again and then what happens when you get out of this summer and there's a far the eighties were completely different. If u s college students to studies, what would be more important in the sixtys and seventys? developing great economic freedom or developing a philosophy of life that makes you happy, which one do you think people picked in the sixties or seventies. Wrestle that philosophy, no question and you still would ripe, but ninety percent of the college students said that then, when they asked in the eighties nineties through the two thousands. The number one thing was practical skills that guy great economic freedom. So you entered another time. You went through the summer you have

all where it was easy people buying islands where no income, it was just ridiculous. That's what happens! It gets insane. Stock markets go crazy and then winter hits and right now we're in winter weren't a winter where every motorway winter doesn't mean every day is horrible. It just means there's more dark days than bright days right. You can be in the middle of winter and have a beautiful day, but the theme is p

get pissed more easily. They get angry they're, not in the enthusiastic, exciting, springtime they're, not in the report for all time. They are in a very different mindset and here's what happens? Institutions during the fog really weakened, and nobody gives a damn about in the winter when people get fearful whether its poverty, whether it's a war, whether its economics they want. The government of big portions of people want them to be strong, and that starts the rise of an ex problem. Winter costs to tackle terrorism happens like clockwork because when so much power concentrates and a few areas, whether its corporations or governments, in its both huge corporate governance, you get these two tallow, terry things were there's no science behind what somebody's doing and they are still promoting it there's still pushing it. There's still doing it and a huge portion of our population compliance and often gets in conflict.

The population. That says this is crazy and they want to they want they. They get them to fight each other, so they don't pay attention to what they're doing. But here's what you need enough no pandemic in human history has lasted forever. Nor will this one War in human history has lasted for ever know what this one, the sea and will change your job is instead of freezing the death in winter or freaking. Out like I started my business when interest rates were, ten percent inflation was going crazy. Guess what we're having exactly towards animals gonna go about I, but we're out. worry move into this mass inflation? There's economic patterns of spending that caused the step so you gotta do well. If you can do well in winter, your spring summer and fall will be extraordinary, because if you look at the fortune, one thousand companies sixty two percent of them- were born in the winter. When I say winter are either a recession or depression disney. during the depression at sign, depression, federal, express in a recession. You know

in recession. I go through the whole list, so if you do well, then in wife in business, the rest of the seasons are easy. So this is our genes. So I can summarize everything I said in one little phrase: try this and I'll shut up, because I gave you a lot think of it. This way, good times create weak people. Weak people create bad times because they want everything, expect everything they don't build anything anymore. They just anticipate. I should be given everything. at times create strong people, strong people create great times. That's the history of humanity. If you go look at it, so we're right now in winter and by the way I dont know for surely study this. These patterns in his we, we probably have another seven or eight years of this. If the past history is correct, we're not through it, we might be through covered soon, but there's going to be new challenges. These and neck observable.

mechanical components, whether they are planetary, seasons or cultural rhythms. they're? At the very end, you suggested a kind of rational relationship between the bad times, great and good people. In the good times, gray and weak people in the weak people crave bad times in the bathtub zero. That's us of a sure no logical way that you can see their cut. Corolla re between you know that the way that patent is operate in. What, though, is also suggested to me? is it that underlying observable mechanical reality. Ah, I aka typo psychic forces that are less easy to read because they don't leave the same kind of traces in this again is a thing that comes up in Earl of your work and in the most recent book, for example, most obviously through the policy by the fact that if they

you can tell the body to behave in a certain way and the will that in itself suggests misses of course, lead to or mainstream accepted. Science is that there, like a significant number of people, twenty percent, whoever it is, will respond positively simply to the suggestion, so I'm very interested in how the Is it two themes? These two distinct ideas may be commensurate the idea of an archetype of force. The underworld underlies observable reality that brings about patterns that we can observe, but most of us are so consumed by the challenges of daily reality that we're on able to step beneath or step beyond or access the ulterior forces

john within or whatever you want to call it. This idea that there is something that is worthy enough, that is imminent, and then he it that can affect the outcome of your life, your own personal destiny and also can affect of finances. In the examples you gave of these hugely successful finance years and entrepreneurs but also can have political impact as well that if you are able to observe these cultural trends, these patterns they seasons of which will manifest reality, is an expression. Then, and then you can influence and evidently something that you ve intuitively every intuitively I've worked harder than perhaps any living person, some suggesting something, gonna play that there are clearly aspects of this that coming like come. Naturally, shall we say to you

I suppose what I feel is as a kind of an ideological and optimistic person when it comes to politics. While we standing back from the brink of utopia, who knows what you know horrors the pursuit of utopia can bring about. I I often wonder how we can use this understanding to influence global outcomes to change political and economic systems, because in my mind tonight I feel that you're out truism speaks for itself with the projects that you support have funded the billion, meals provided for americans and in your evident philanthropy, I'm interested in the alteration of systems in a light use of gave the example of the advent of agriculture as being the pivotal moment in human history. Perhaps they ve most pivotal moment in human history. I wonder how we might now take that in a perspective that jerome perspective at thirty thousand for perspective, to look at where

Annie is going to look at what outcomes we might bear engineer in all of these fields why the thing is tony. One of the things I consistently sense myself is that the incentive structures that co commit and with capitalism still seem sometimes, in my opinion, not to bring out the best in human beings, advancing as they do a kind of individualistic mentality is exemplified by that I mean I let you set the sixties. Had a lot of kind of ideological collectivized unifying ideas which ultimately become something that's quite individualistic in the eighties and bought a lot of prosperity and I'm not suggesting. I know as much about these things as you do, but I feel that one of the challenges that we at the faces of people is an ability now to start looking beyond institutional winced and an establishment thinking right at the point when people, as you have said in your description of these times, are willing to yield to the

establishment. Idea was a willing to yield to authoritarians and the rise of authoritarianism. This so unusual for me to observe, because of it's aesthetic because of how it looks and and because of whom it purports to be acting on behalf of the vulnerable, the people that need protecting it's something that I'm kind of confused by and am wondering you know as a person as advised was world leaders how you feel that this may play out politically, while acknowledging the previous onto a wreck with ips have a description of that. There is a seasonal reality, It can't really be overcome. I just wonder what you feel politically specifically. I want to clarify thank think that at first either you're triggering so many things I mean. I almost want to run a small town, so don't forget, but I think let me address three pieces. What you just said there- and I'm just got myself a note, because I don't want to forget here. I am going to write this

when you're just for a second, which is for there to be some internal. That is not what this we. First of all, I want to give you the impression that the seasons means you have no control. Yes right, you can have season going on and you can be in the middle of like you're out of your florida winter time is nice here because you said the snowboarding in the files. I didn't make that mistake that you can make the best of it. I didn't you move clear. Also. I want you to know. It's not like the same while there is a mass of people going through the hypnotic frame. I fear there is also people that have hit the threshold that have been weak, meaning just accepting things as they are just focusing on their own. I've been waiting. All this should happen. Who now suddenly you're saying this is bullshit, I'm standing up, so you can accelerate the tempo of the season if enough p we got awake is taking personal responsibility and sang. I am, the solution that there may be some institutional challenges, but I have the individual capacity to.

bind with others. So now it's not just me as an individual to create significant change, and so I, what triggered me when you're saying that popped in my head was, I think it's called the milgram study of you know. Everyone will remember the study where people respond, the authority and the guy in a white coat and there's a person. The other side was shocks on them and they're telling them to go higher and higher and higher. There was a study done to see how could the things happen in world war. Two was what kind of trigger then don't want to do this study and the person has got higher. The shocks got stronger and there's a point on there. That was in red that someone could die from sixty. Seven percent of the people responded to the intensity of the authority figure to take people to a point. Where they could have died. I was all actors screaming. It was all fake, but I didn't know that at that make

I think humanity is in bad shape and a lot of people quote that study, but they leave out the most important. I think inside of that study, when only ten percent of the people objected verbally objected. Vocally objected physically, objected when one excuse me, when one person did that only ten percent of the people are willing to put the electricity up to that level. So we are not sitting here. I'm not. I want to give you the impression we're sitting here in a place where we can do nothing. We just got accepted the way it is far from it. That's the furthest, my philosophy, but you need to recognize the pattern in my opinion, so you can start to use the pattern.

If the pattern use you and then start to create new patterns, and so the bottom line is, there is a shift that you can make and yes, there are archetypes and that's more understanding patterns and the more you understand the archetypes, even within yourself. I may give an example like you know, a completely different context, but just I think it's an interesting example. So you know I I worked with a u of c fighter was pretty famous and you know he had or he had been winning and winning and winning he's irish. You get the clue if I'm talking about here and economy mcgregor part of comes to be in europe. Was this big fight to be but a real challenge? Was he got so angry? He lost the use of all his abilities, and so, when I think of art types, I start with the types within myself, but within other people and I say that when someone is stuck like you're stuck emotionally we're stuck in a relationship were stuck. You know.

economically, whenever we're stuck? It's because we're not using all our resources we're only using a certain part of ourself. So when I sat down with connor- and I could share this cause- he shared it. Otherwise I wouldn't be telling the story and I sat down with connor and it's like listen. I said tell me I'm going to give you four archetypes. There are some more than four, but let me give these four archetypes. I know it sounds weird, but as a fighter, but as I I don't want you. I want you to tell me where these archetypes might live in you. I want to make the sound of it and the archetypes I use, for example, was a warrior to start with, and his warrior was full tilt. Now, he's always had his warrior, but the people that know anything about the? U of c know he was called mystic mac. He could sometimes see before person through the punch where it was going to come from counter it and was like magical. So the warrior in him was one part of it. He got so angry it was the war you all the time and his warrior was exhausted, so I hadn't figure out where that was in his body. That sounds weird, but embody it a sound of it.

I remember had a warrior coach, the wires, that's all you need to do when he gave certain advice, then I said, let's find another party If the magician in you there's a party that sees the punch before it happens, there is a part of you that smiles inside he isn't all pissed and angry because he knows it's all perception. The whole thing can change with one punch in one moment game. Conjecture. All of life can change in a moment, so the magician is the wise one. Who is an angry who can rely on the worry when you need them, but also can come up with a new perception, the new vision, changeable, and when you do that Whole body changes breathing changes base chain. It's the smile, he's famous for when he's really being crazy and playful starting to show up, and he got totally different advice from his magician radically different. Then I said, let's find the labyrinth you already found out. Was you know he wasn't loving fighting anymore? He wasn't like cause he'd been so uptight and angry what the loss you

person, he was fighting all those things, and then we went to the sovereign and again there are many archetypes. I just use these for with him, the sovereign, the king or queen inside you're, the one that has already won all the battles, the one who knows as a vision larger than yourself, the one who isn't just doing it for accolades a true king or queen is a servant. Hero comes from cihr about in latin, which means servant. A true hero is a serb, And this person serves because they don't have the fear of trying to prove himself, they know who the hell they are and he got completely different advice and so anyway long story short as for afterwards, he was like this is the best I've felt in years. This is incredible. He went up the next day against this man named cowboy and cowboy got the first punch- and I held my breath- oh my god, and then he saw this opening the magic mystic mac ne

better than it took him about. Forty five seconds it was unbelievable. He called me in the ring with him as a nice celebration, but here's what I love most was different: conor conor you people see connor and especially if connor drinks, alcohol, which right now I understand, he's saying he's not going to do for this next fight. But here's what's really interesting, connor all of a sudden transformed- and he goes over to cowboy and hugs him and thanks him for the fight and then the cowboy has a grandmother was like a mondrian. He went over and hugged her not for the cameras and then when he was interviewed after you super complementary. The cowboys got some records. I don't have this man's amazing and I'm just very fortunate humility and different

Dana because he was using all the parts of him not just one, where we're stuck we're using one part wheeler stuck in our minds in some past or present or future, or we're stuck with an image in our mind or a sound or a feeling, or we're stuck focusing on herself instead of other people, and so we don't have all over resources. I could give you twenty stuck patterns, but they all can change when we expand who and where we are. Now. You said a third The thing about capitalism, I'm a capitalist and you and I have had slightly different views on this area- the same view in that what we care about most is the people but the system. I don't think capitalism is a perfect system by any stretch of the imagination and like any system, it can be abused and it has been abused

but the best system, I've seen by capitalism, unchecked, unbalanced, is a real problem. There is when you, when you have compassion the capitals and want to just only for the economics, that's what's happening with companies going to china, doing what they're doing and, unfortunately, when he told us people above but any system going to people abuse the system of people use it. I dont do it shut for the money I mean you know me well enough, though it's true it really have all these things. I've I've fed eight hundred and fifty million people in the last seven years. I don't want to commit to feed a billion people cause. I was bad when I was eleven years old. I went to you, know africa and I go to india india's a really good example. I see all these kids dying of waterborne diseases, so I provide a quarter of a million people with fresh water, I'm working to get it to a million people. I you know, I have a plane, I'm very.

privilege now you're very lucky to be able to do it, it's incredible tool, but I'm not an idiot. So I found out my carbon footprints about three thousand trees a year, so I said screw that I didn't just do carbon credits. I didn't have carbon credits for ten years of travel. Now it's probably thirty cause. I travel so little now because of the weather, well kobe, but I also planted it's only played one hundred million trees, I'm up to seventy one billion trees. I play the game a business because it's a spiritual game to me. It's a game that every religion, every spiritual approach teaches at some level, which is do more for others than you do for yourself don't take give and if I can give and give and give I get the juice of giving I get the excitement of it. I would learn to use business as a tool, because the only way you win in business is do more for others than anybody else in the marketplace. Now there are monopolies that can manipulate

at the fence, so they aren't doing more for others, I'm aware of that. But it's not the majority of what happens, and so I look at that and go. Is it a great system? Is it a perfect system hell? No, but is it better than you know, people in a communist country, a socialist country, the answer's? Yes, and whether it be new perfection? Yes, now we're we're being every problem is being magnified now by technology, because technology is allowing people to monitor us control us. Our communications cut us off the platform. People, it's allowing certain people accumulate a wealth. It is just ridiculous beyond anything that you spent in decades or years times, but all these things are temporary their part of a system that will be shaken up because when things get on just enough, as we all know, people react and respond, and hopefully it will have to get to the point of real,

Perhaps I want addressed the last thing you said, and by the way, I'm not a I'm, not a, I believe anything can be misused. Electricity can save lives that could light up a city or can kill someone. There are people that use it to kill people, but more people use it for good, and so I look at it from a standpoint of there is no quote perfection in the real world. There's like if I take off to fly to go from here to hawaii I am a pilot. Most people don't realize it, but you're, of course, about ninety five percent of the time, but I got rough cause. I we're all going to die. That's correct! That's correct, correct, correct you land on a dime that people have, reactions are missing out on the beauty of life because their over reacting as they dont have perspective of pattern. Recognition, utilization, immigration. Lastly,

you mentioned, I think it's really important mention around health, just as the us good, measurable sample of what the mine can do. So you know I talk about the book. You know the fact that perceive, as we all know, about policy both they were discovered in one war, two by the way, not that long ago, and how they were discovered as a doctor was treating people, and you know they're going if you don't give them. You know morale I mean they go into shock. Besides the pain they're going to shock and they die and he ran out of morphine. So a nurse actually is responsible. Woman right she came up with a solution spontaneously cause everyone's freaking out. All these men were going to die, so she took a saline solution and said: ok, here's the morphine. He thought it was morphine injected it with the expectation and the look on his face and the certainty. This was going to help the guy

guess what none of the people they injected with us. He found it out. There was not a single one, wanted a shot and maybe them out of paying and were given no drugs, so he went after one or two. He went back to harvard and he's the doctor that started all these studies that we now, it compare to a placebo, but what a lot of people don't know is possible so often more effective than the drug itself. You just never hear about that, because there's no money in that right, but here's what's interesting, the bigger the placebo intervention, the bigger response to the mind and the body. In other words, if I give you a little pill, we might get more responsive. They give you a big pill, a large one. If we give you an injection, the belief system is even stronger baby even done they do fall surgeries the veterans administration here in the u s, took arthur's coptic surgeries and decided to do a third of the people fake surgeries and see what would happen so most people bid the surgery other tenants then, but a third of them. They caught him open and then just sort it back up didn't do anything to them. They just left.

scar there and the nurses didn't know the difference right. They weren't the ones who took care of them didn't know a year and a half afterwards. It's in the book. I can't remember the exact percentage, but the number of people who had not had the surgery, but if they did we're doing so much better than the people, the surgery that the wii I stopped paying for those knee surgeries. You know it's more than a placebo Russell. Think of it. This way, hubbard's on studies where they give you a red pill and they tell you it's an amphetamine to meet your body's going to speed up, but they give you a barbiturate. They don't give you a break. till they give you an actual progress was supposed slow, your body down and the people's bodies increase just like an impediment, even though given a drugs does the opposite and they ve done the opposite side as well. There are studies that I've got a friend, dr ellen langer who's. You know one of the first people I came up with mindfulness at harvard really brilliant lady and in the book I described them, but she has some studies where she shows about how people heal, based on belief systems, but also

so she took another. Seventy roles took him to the cat skills of new york literally built the facility there with a clean up the place and eat everything from thirty. Of years before radio stations, old, tv's old they showed old, shows everyone was told to speak in first person as if it was thirty five years earlier, and if you're in the bucket as the list they probably could change their eyesight got better. Their blood pressure went down. I mean they looked younger just because that is the power of the mind. Norman cousins was one of the first guys in cycling terminology used to use a professor. I was privileged enough to interview him when I was twenty four years old. He did my firewall with me is how it happened cause he was fascinated by the mind body effect. I got to spend time with him and I didn't interview with him. I used to have a not a podcast, but a little interview format. I used to do called power talk and so

interviewed him then, as I entered, he told me all these stories now. First of all, he was diagnosed with a deadly disease and he said I'm not going to do the traditional approach. I think I can change my immune system by laughing and so all he did for weeks and weeks and weeks several months is when he started feel this massive pain he would turn and these are old movies and laugh his ass off and the pain would go away and then, eventually his body healed, he wrote a book called anatomy of an illness which now there's a building dedicated to him. You feel, like he's kind of like the father of one of the fathers of cycling terminology, that how your mind can affect your immune system by the way the cds we can make ourselves sick with our mind. So he told me a story about you. I can tell you dozens told me a story of a football game in america that he went to and then suddenly somebody had superset the project

if vomiting and the doctor on staff ran and try to figure out what the source was and the person had just gotten a coca cola out of the vending machine, and so the doc thought there was nothing else. He'd done different that day, he must be poisoned by that. There must be something wrong with the vending machines, so they announced across the loudspeaker. Do not drink anything out of the vending machine, but lots Forty people had projected army was like movies that people all over vomiting throwing up. There were twelve, they ambulances, they're taking people back and forth to the hospital about forty five minutes later be doing. Now is a man who was nothing wrong with the vending machine they now It can certainly within twenty to thirty minutes everybody as well. So the cdc I put us in a book is most people wouldn't believe it. Mostly. They see the study. Everything in my book by the west

emeric. It's none of it's me. The cdc most of us know that the number one factor in dying of covert is age right. Eighty years old, usually, but the number one factor outside of age is obesity. You know eighty percent, seventy nine point: eight percent of the people that have died of kovac have been obese or have are majorly overweight, something we could do something about, but no one talks about, but here's what cd? Since the number one number two factor was of you dying of cobit, anxiety and fear, and yet what have we done in our media continuously like it? If people are good people they're, not bad people, but they're trying to do their job, their job is to make their shareholders richer. In order to that, they need your attention.

Fear cell so fear pushes people fear, causes people to go to a place and when you fear it changes the energy, just anger. There's a study I put in the book. You know if you're angry for twenty minutes really intensely anger, it'll shut down your immune system for up to three and a half to four hours. So our minds have such tremendous power. That's why the book I teach all things due for more energy and strengthen the greatest breakthroughs within an and if you want a quality of life, you gotta take control of your mind. Yes, tony, that is so magnificent to have the opportunity to speak with you. Thank you. So much for your work on this latest thank you for your the whole canon of your work. Thank you further treasure of europe. in your attention, so beautiful to be in your company, hit me home ever less than immersive lie you mighty man. Thank you very much for coming onto the skin another time.

We wrestled back. So much of me on, and I look forward to hearing the impact that says you and you and your family and hopefully from your viewers as well blessings to brother. Thank you so much thank you is that episode of under the skin with tony robbins? I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you've learned from it. I hope you will consider buying that book. Seventies had a fantastic impact on my life and I've got nothing but love for tony robbins. The great man django django Jane go. If you got anything to rise, and I mean I don't think so comes emails. I sign up the remaining mister vrain joy, tony, listen! What should we do this in a tiny wrote his previous package I vouch, jan. Yet that was a funny podcast was it because he is the first time he interact with them, and I think he really wanted to try and get a weird fucking is like a similar style. Mattress just enjoy in or why wim off cause? I don't like gun unemployment pulls the vote. Like going lunch, I've got my were either inside. You too can calot IRAN, iraq control, keep checking my youtube jack goodman region keeps him

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