CES 2023 is in full swing! The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and Richard Lawler parse the vapor ware from the cool new tech we hope to see ship this year.
Further reading:
- Sony and Honda just announced their new electric car brand, Afeela
- The BMW i Vision Dee is a future EV sports sedan that can talk back to you
- Check out BMW’s color-changing concept car in action
- Mercedes-Benz and ChargePoint are going to install thousands of EV fast chargers in the US
- The Ring Car Cam is now available to order for $200
- Google’s new high-definition maps are arriving first on Volvo and Polestar electric vehicles
- Google’s new split-screen look for Android Auto is rolling out to everyone
- LG’s latest Signature OLED TV receives all of its audio and video wirelessly
- LG wants to reinvent how you think of TV picture modes
- Sony breaks from tradition and won’t announce new TVs at CES 2023
- Samsung takes on Apple and LG with its own 5K display for creative pros
- Dell’s new 32-inch 6K monitor gives Apple’s ProDisplay XDR some competition
- Samsung's latest Flex Hybrid is a prototype display
- LG’s 2023 OLED TVs are brighter (again) and make webOS smarter
- Samsung’s 2023 TV lineup bets everything on picture upgrades and AI tricks
- Roku does the obvious thing and announces its own TV line
- TCL’s 2023 TVs have new branding and are gaming powerhouses
- Razer made a soundbar that tracks your head to optimize sound
- AMD’s new Ryzen 7000 mobile processors include a massive 16-core chip
- AMD promises RTX 3060 desktop graphics performance with new RDNA 3 laptop GPUs
- Lenovo’s new Yoga Book 9i laptop has a second screen above its screen
- Lenovo’s new ThinkBook has modular accessories that add LTE, a webcam light, and more
- Lenovo’s new all-in-one is all screen
- Lenovo made a Kindle Scribe
- The HP Dragonfly Pro Chromebook is neat, but what’s with the RGB?
- Razer's Edge 5G handheld is coming to Verizon this month for $359.99
- Delta and T-Mobile are making in-flight Wi-Fi free for all SkyMiles members
- Qi2: How Apple might finally harness MagSafe by giving it away
- Philips Hue is getting a $130 app for TVs
- Samsung’s SmartThings Station is a smart home hub hidden in a wireless charger
- Kohler shower pods are here to turn your bathroom into a spa
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free here, hears fine, it's also cs the consumer. Electronics shows happening in las. We have big verged team down there. I am not
for the first time in twelve years. I feel
the covered years that didn't go, don't count. They don't ask,
say I have twelve to thirteen year run, many of which were memorably spent with richard lawlor as babies
Member of probably not the great work,
they were so what's the word for something you remember, because you don't remember, there's a guy,
but noise, it's what you'd being at upon. Other people do things in the first. We go the you that I had no idea about I ass while yet
there's all kinds of action it time does not stop and get vortex in las vegas.
I will say in richer out enough: you feel this way. I miss it and I've kind
there's, a part of me that wishes. I was in vegas. That part is very small, then I'd imbue
in submission on a daily, but there's like stuff?
happening it's yes. This year there is a person
Inside of me, who only exists when I wake up india them the merry out in LAS vegas. Yet
and they are dormant. The entire recipe and just for one week they run free,
I not been activated by zero percent humidity, like the air, so dry, that a different version of you comes out
what I need is a
august soda and some sorely carpets and at least
We fall memory cards, sd cards of photos elapsed.
And that's who I really am,
As a part of me, that's just the other reason I'm jealous not there is. This is dieter bones first year cs as a Google executive, and I
just? I just want to go to those meetings. Dieter I buy messy body touch you.
It's friends, I'm just saying I can't wait to be an opposition worm, but he's got like flax.
Yeah yeah. I press antlers, a million. Follow me around my god, a missing if they like,
You can't talk to him, does waving at him to start talking. Every time says anything I get
That's the one thing I can say is that there is a lot of stuff coming out at sea answers like a two year period,
make hang over. That appears to be breaking in terms of gadgets hundred percent. It is the usual level of gadget. Announcements will the
I've ever come out.
would be any good one.
Remember this a year from now who knows but
this week, the year you'll remember,
the country, of course, for this.
Give you a few and gadgets. This is like southernmost gadget fun you can have it see
ass in there's just a wild array of gadgets happening,
is this is matters first years says a whole bunch of weird smartphone gadgets sony's, like
we made a car, will get the car in a minute cars fully ridiculous being done,
We also made a car with the of eating and it talks just.
like a fully ridicule cs, obviously tv news and they live to see other laptop,
these are the Lenovo Yogurt book died. I it's a to screen
beautiful and it comes with the stand? Make superstar I dislike. What have you glued to ipads together working
This is what happened on family new stay at home for two years. They have ways.
And nobody is there to be like stuff,
You broke ass, easy ass. Regards I'm real quick before we start here is one piece of exciting:
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the rush ass, you channel first, this is our first public one. There have been some secret ones as tests over the past.
so first public purse we're really excited about it. We want your feedback.
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was that with a big ideas to expand the show into video and anti european project.
also some exciting new society. Let's start with this car,
so sony a couple years ago announced a car. It's us
The most vaporware car that has ever exist.
I don't think, have even had motors and there it is like.
there were so many here,
physician announcements deal like spiderman. Here's your car, serious! Yes, wasn't there wasn't even
The cool thing was there was a failure, is a model of a car
It moved.
idea of the car there was issued. Videos of cars are things that were supposedly car striving and they were like
This was at the time and I, like the vaporware car explosion, was like fully happening. Yet
this only ass. His car engines like this is vapor somewhere going where there s a partner
with honda may cars? The in the name of the partnership is sony. Honda mobility,
So you see these issues are very literal situation. Yeah soon he wants to make a car hano makes cars would start a new joint venture. It's called sony harmony, mobility, cool,
this year. It cs sony holds a press conference press conferences all over the place. I encourage you to go. Watch it. It's like the
I did not to announce tvs cs, which, if you are an added cs watcher. You know this is a big deal,
is this world tvs get announced sony like napster
Opting out will do tvs later hears
ps, we are too
here's a movie stuff here?
teresa movie? Oh my way made it psychotic.
Us, the sony, hondo mobility car will be a new.
brand,
can't even say it. I feel so. Mad
It's called a few. Are s ear,
He s a in a short after
the car, which you know
looks like a shoe.
Was all modern ease. Do like a cross between it.
under a chord in a lucid air like all cars, now have the same. Like light bar vibes, it's like a low slung sudan yeah. They don't look. They all look like tom cruise and Steven Spielberg design,
in two thousand, to what two cars of the future like this it you know
you're kidding you like our learning how to draw a car you draw like this.
two wheels and, above all, this is what you draw, because I could not actually draw different. I just one arc,
we said it's, it's called again. I want to come back to the name of phila, which, if you go and watch the video git, deplore,
man he's he's like excited, and these are our new brand and then he's like a feeler and there's there should not happen.
us, because no one believes that he said it. No one positive! That day,
and the idea here is at home
will a car and sony was
if it full of screens that runs whom he software
play. Sony movies that
that's the idea. It's very clearly the idea, one of them
but then there's one screen doesn't want to pay sixty thousand dollars for a ps3. Yes, the front.
The car, the middle of the light part. This is the thing that I am absolutely obsessed with, and I really encourage you to go. Watch are super cut this event. So there's the two headlights,
and then there's the light bar in the middle of the headlights. Almost all cars tvs especially have this like light bar element in the middle of the headlights downright yeah. The electronic,
that is the is like what, if that was a screen straight,
screen in the middle, the have charging screening.
in the presentation to show you the things a serene could be used for, and one of them is just straight up. Advertising for spiderman no way home
so you're driving around in Europe Vila and you ve- got
spider. Man, no way how of your car
You can also display the weather, which I think is amazing, to display the weather to authorise helpful for the people you like has run on the ass other people on the highway. I need the wax words, so you just be shifting the weather to people backwards in their meares. I mean it's it's perfect,
sample of veto, we didn't happen. We had to make it. We have to do something
and this is sony- doesn't know why its building a car
It is very obvious that sony has not yet figured out why it's doing this,
Honda knows why its building uneasy haunters got that port lockdown their honda-
so he's like what we're going to add to the spider man and screens, whereas some places we can put those things and one
the places they settled on was the
and of the car.
It's very good. Ophelia, perfect, no debts
now my personal or feel a theory is again during what one at what
The word for this when you have a memory that is defined by the
absence of the memory of black out of you. I know I was in vegas with richard. I I
I know that
and then I know I was at home there. There are expense receipts, but what happened? Who can set
The memory tastes like does. It is like vodka whiskey
rat. Yes, all in all the above all it
I know that richard and our friends for life because of this memory, but it I got nothing else.
Somehow in the middle of this, that's when someone said a fever
no road it down on the ground. It later now, there's no telling what is the ultimate vegas c s song in every presentation, its. I got a feeling better,
can t
you cannot be. You cannot be and that environment without hearing that song
for. There is at least two years we're like
The words Mazel tov rang out of every c s presentation because they were just playing. I got a feeling by the black eyed, please
and now we have a few. I swear to god. This is what happened like
sony honda were up in the club and that's all
this way, and I know what it's called it now
Now we have to talk about the seriously for months to come years years. It's not coming out until twenty twice that they cried a lot that I doubt they hugged
coming out, it's a text that I must start taking orders and twenty twenty four in a clean
that they will ship the first ones in north america, and they said the second half of twenty five, who are the people that are going gonna order, this
I mean this is a pretty huge risk. I think what you its de rest for the fact that its more or less a honda right, yeah, ok, see you know,
They know the anchor koane exist, they make cars, we drive them, but then you ve got dislike.
bonkers sony. Integration were there in the boat with it.
The whole car contact and so it's a qualcomm country.
Sat quite harm quota autonomous driving clock on interface.
it's like everything. How much battery life isn't gonna get versus the apple carling, thirty percent
their runs, really hot. The camera, though, and in some, is better. I love her there.
charging the screen on the front? You can and should be a charging indicator
throwing out the idea fully integrating appears five, that's what I've always wanted to make on this. Is the single silliest cs announcement that I've ever comes
and if you ve been the thing to me and she has for a long time, you know that that is high bar. We have covered
and truly bonkers cs products.
here call hired the cast of
Billy madison to jump around in
very suits claiming to be the next generation next taking of, but this is a real thing that happened in this is by far the silliest thing.
And because the entire point of it disport brought a real kangaroo censure for
Whatever the entire point in this car is to get you to subscribe to semi software inside the car.
I don't think this car is ever going to ship. That's just my I'm just I'm calling it. I do not think the avila will ever ship. You don't think a car with an integrated, ps, five
the ability play spider man on the grill of fuel returned to embody three main themes: autonomy, augmentation and affinity. It's bad bad, undersized well,
okay, wait if there's anything that one is good at it's launching subscription service that has never failed and so and yeah, I'm taking I'm taking the eyes out on this for sure
if you're, just gonna subscribe to only hundreds like your position clogging, but I cannot believe it's cold.
I can't believe that we ought to say it. I can't they said it. I can't be they paid some consulting company like millions of dollars per se,
but I can believe only done one pon about it. I think like route as
impress it's just the beginning of the year book will combat it's true.
It sounds like I would say this is the news. I see us as this sony honda mobility new brand of a car, it's what everyone's talking about, I'm just calling it right now.
The thing is pure vapor and will never ship. You leave your average of any kind of solely car or just not this. It's not that
and if she's, if you even, if you think about way, we talked on the show so many times like this is not the kind of car that people are.
Think people by midsize crossover, se vs so showing up with your weirdo sitting, like you, can't even get the tax credits for this right now in the united states
the tax credits are all for se, vs near the tesla model Y and the mustang maki aren't getting the tax credit, because they're classified as sedans soca, I mean
for he saw, despite a lift, get on it that we find in rome
up to the irish r are lifted model
is it you Vida or other car service? Yes, I'm just higher. If you believe the fewer will ship, let us know
You work at sony and you can
show us working production unit of the. I will we'll talk about it, but it's called the official.
Ok, here's my allocation! Will they choose
the name if it airships now they have to keep their committed to it. Now
I mean they will absolutely change the name, but I think even now we need to say you cannot change your name. You made your choice. You got drunk at the club a couple years ago. You bonded you agreed
can't know take backs to feel I am also of the trunk. Is I hear you promised me
Where is, will I'm how is not an housing involving after all, the text of this was the most on how it is managed and is nowhere to be found that suspicious. That is very sad
which they, namely exacts, who worked on it,
No, if will I am working on a suitable name, the creative director of Phila? Theoretically,
his title with all the things he works on. We want student article.
Think they have on as well. I m is the kiss of death, because every time
that he has ever launches a creative stretch, certain spectacular flop.
dance everyone's published the headline, but will
bracelet like I don't want it to
my body, its dan
Have you encounter dance even before he's not prone to bursts of hyperbole now in his eye,
I don't want this thing you're, my body like don't even wanna. Look at it touched his hair he's upset hit is from a couple years since we ve covered about gadget.
This is a moment I wish I will be in double the irish. Indeed, it took the talks to your friend. Does it
was the one that had the arnold schwarzenegger commercial attached to it right near where he the whole time talking about how they're gonna be best friends, and then he like
the lady hook up with some did, and they never showed the most interesting part of the year that that c s in a nutshell, is there
have a celebrity that's. Why did escape they don't say a product.
Let me just give you see, I vision d is kind of like a wretch,
The future is to hudson, like
a marrow vibes in the front end like sex.
His camera in the front end, but the ugly everybody's during these ugly hopkins, that's just like that means ease yeah
bad? So I vision D stands for digital emotional experience d
Read this word to you, the headlights.
And the closed. Bmw kidney grill also form a common fidget
the dough icon on a uniform surface, allowing the vehicle to produce different facial expressions and what they mean by fidget. All
is the combination of the word physical and digital. They were supposed to launch an entity with this, but then they cancelled it when the prices crash and according to the press, release
because the only place where
it's it's very bad. The
point of this is that it has this assistant and then in the inside of this car. We don't really know what the Carl is. Gonna look like or
really exists, because all the pictures are renders. But the whole point of this is that it will talk back to you and
driver you can create, like I met a verse avatar, or should we projected onto the side window of the car? I think those are all things I do not want it. My life, you have this
Then, if you got this was supposed to have your europe on the outside and then they realized they couldn't do that and they just.
it is they who have had to do something with. It
they know they had already marked those ways are real. This was an entity car for egypt, it mean,
must be the truth, because every single thing about it matches with enough to reality mixed reality. You put your avatar on outside. This is a token eyes is a metaphor, experience from being ready, but in an ageist just didn't say that energy parts, because that's anathema now does it have the Bmw logo on it
Yes, how to run down the front. Ok there it s very tiny. It is truly one of the strangest strangers cars. I've ever seen.
is or you just at the pictures? It's all renders this is the most vaporware car we have ever cover like it does.
Even the prototype doesn't exist, is great. I love it.
If and Urbino he is coming at come here. Charging subservience repeated seats so we'll see if her weird non
fifty and if she horror succeeds, but what's
worrying about it is that there is one part of it that Israel and they they did last year and these they they showed. Often this giant render the kind of like destroyed all of my hope and humanity, and that's that it has. The e ink panel
that we saw last year, but in color I mean is that we saw the cars last year. They had real cars.
Driving around c s last year, roof real eeg panels at it.
In this year, they have real fake cars
driving around in real fake reality with actual real e ink panels, which is this new, like tat, called prism. Three from ie
and that's really really cool and I'm really annoyed because that's actually really really cool real technology. Paired with, like the cartoon car, with your enough tea on the face death,
I will say that the five year no actual pictures of the I vision d makes
we wonder
Stalin motion debts in there
a real person driving. It is always a cartoon, lady driving it or it's like really far away yeah. I guess there's one picture of a guy with within a in this picture. The car is all white, so
and I'm watching this video and blowing mama was at, and I dont know why out. I dont know
why the terminator is ear. I dont know why? Don't you have to go out and video this without has my vote, because there is an actual scientists. Are videos, the most cs. Thank you can watch videos so get like arnold fortunate, yours and they dont show the panel's. They don't know that
as an exceptional last shot where they're like helicopter over their helicopter
in over the car. In that
rendering yeah.
I dunno I'm just saying it's not a real car shoe have the most but the eeg tech, Israel, the ieng tech, Israel, but is it mounted on a bmw that exists? So he know what it's like
eating sent me, they sent me a whole thing talking about it. It's there for particle a sap system.
In asia. Has two branches in one is what you get, which is like a readers, the new gallery, three color inga coming out later this year,
and on the other side is prism three, which is what is on this and it's more like a mash. It's not like actual panels. It's really weird- and I was like this- is so exciting. Oh it's on a faint car that will never exists and is all a cartoon.
yeah. I'm timing disappointed. I love it because I think the audacity of launching intensely vaporware cars see us
for a long time. The way she s worked was we would see. The insights of course see us s, because that's where the screens were
and we were here about, like whatever q and acts of grave, was coming to light jeeps next year in an
we later than enshrined auto show, we would see the outsides cars.
And now where to going for broke on what was finished.
You entire fate cars. Would we
should do a lot of really cool renders at sea yes, but our big screens and so on.
some other car needs that see us some good,
here mercedes inside
Thousands of evie fast charters across the united states
a billion dollars on it in conjunction with chargepoint, and saw four hundred of these hubs, each with approximately six charging stations key cities, major highways. This is good. This is good news. They needed to do this all the time. Did you see the part of the the press release where they're like? Well, we're not going to put it in
like some weird by the reared dumpster in like a shady area. These are going to be nice. Charging points in nice. Areas like oh, is, is that a problem now
it's a huge problem now like they just like we're
Furthermore, I always assembly charges are always in the nice areas, because everybody jars teslas
Tesla charges are generally a nicer experience in some of those are weird yeah but like
average electrify america single charger is like broke in. They might be any right, there's like coyotes howling in the dissidents. Even if you go watch of our ford lightning review video, we went
the charter on the highway and who isn't? It has limited dumpster. That's true in either
I've talked to many horsey is, and I was asked this they've they've been punting.
Ram admitting that the charges or by dumpsters is an important sign of progress except one
admit the charges are currently by dumpsters step to spend a billion dollars, putting them some so that
news a good bit of cfcs from mercedes there,
other little stuff car wise.
Encourage him with. Who knows why anybody wants this
the little ring dash can people were really addressing distortion for love,
people of dashed hams
most ashrams are made it by weirdo brands, yeah level
ash came in and like I recognize this brand, but you'll want this brand go get like your weird, never heard of before company the woman
one that hasn't deeply embedded in the police, already yeah great I'll get the policeman.
its violence, shipping for two bucks, moorings tashkent, two bucks,
and too little bits of google and
it auto news I mean the first one is just hilarious. They have google put out. A split screen.
version of entering otto, for cars wise going to what is a little bit ago, an outgoing that everyone in the middle of it here than has its yes, my spit of Google news. It looks exactly like her play, like distinct ethical carbonate,
it's three years ago, yeah, like an apple, figured this out a while ago. Yeah it's like it's fairly fun,
and the avant google are in the cycle of just fully copying each other, and neither one of these things is that good, just putting it out there they're, both fine,
that's it! Then you cannot claim that they are anything better than fine, which is
a meaningful step over what most
car manufacturers to do I
their better than what the car manufacturers do cause if I have to do most as built in system or apple core play, I'm going apple car play every time, the moss assistance horrible, what you don't like hundreds, two thousand levin andrew duff
yeah. This is like the curse of low expectations right you like
our bar, that we have to beat is
ford sink actively
torture, and you just
We have to clear yeah.
Mazda, deleting all the money in your bank account when you try to put in a navigation way or whatever it is,
it's a low bar, they cleared it.
and the fat, and now they are converging on the same sort of mediocre
that said,
Google has new hi res maps, those we are first of all, the ex ninety, the new ui and in the post, our three,
we can see Google's any other volvo and pulsar both use like android as infotainment yeah stack solvency
those pushing harder into cars like their owning, more and more cars. There doing google built in due time
local levels, inertia and how deeply confusing it is. Why because
re doing the same thing that happened with andret, where you have android, and yours have android with Google services where you can get like gmail or or in this case Google maps- and you tell me if you just want, but everybody uses android but usually
without gulags right so excellent as users android, but without any girl services there
honda just announced new accord with google built in which is something
leave their betraying sony already. But it's
something the running something, but with Google services like google maps, yeah
An gm also Google built in
is something but with Google maps,
unclear, whether its andred automotive and then volvo unwholesome, run andred automotive, which was just entered,
possible stuff strategies, tears of like Google being in your car,
and you can see, go a strategy is basically whatever you want as long as it's us, whereas apple strategies is nothing
do they have a strategy? Remember we got to see the whole car just the way the exhaustion appeared on your face. Just then thinking about it. That split. Second of no, I don't
what year did the strategy for the
grill of your car, showed all the weather, which is good. It's not.
Mean it's? It's a service, its helpful for
whereas amazon car. Why do we have the sense and carry it would have
strange and samson, as with bixby at that
Why are you the day that the end of the hundred group is their honey in key and all the rest yeah that
who is supposed to be making the apple car, you could cease samson,
the walk down the street there. They were very busy.
They were not been providing that ships to the sunday karla doesn't exist.
that's car stuff. I gotta say we start with a few, just as I want to get it out of the way I failure
not so much on twitter anymore, but the number of people are treated me that we had a title. I feel it was very high higher than anything else
she s a tv show? That's what it's really for this is this is
Were the action happens and tv world re? Why,
memory. I do have a c s with richard is
hd dvd versus blu ray cs, which was incredible where
but this was gonna to be the format warrior cs in and before the show started. Toshiba just caved in a tore down the hd dvd,
we live. You could actually see that you could actually see a dvd fall apart in real time in real life in front of somebody that before because it was like you, he was like watching a dream die except the dream actually existed. Yeah, it was true,
is our, but this year she s a little calmer alive.
Tv upgrades some
interesting ideas picture modes like
we're in a mature part of a tv cycle right, we're not in
yes doing, link http has come there. They gotta, they figured it out heavily for you,
were doubtless there. We know we know what to sell. You haven't they, they figured out lake.
We know that their new thing is. They can't just force you to buy a new tv because afore K, so they pivoted hd, are, and they ve now realized. That's not exactly great, so they're, just gonna, like kind of hang out in an improved the tvs until they figure out
some reason to really force you to upgrade again, like they're, all really visually three d: again, it's going to be avatar. Two way of water is going on streaming and it's going to be three d again. I promise you for like a week.
If you go back and read, some of James Cameron's quotes about avatar coming out on blu ray entreaty, and he is like this shit's the future from back. Then
Yes, he got distracted. Yes, it's room like for decades and suddenly we cannot, but his heart is still pure. He thing,
Some treaty is going to happen in abattoirs. Gonna make it happen again.
But it's true, I gotta think we're in a mature pirate part of the tv cycle, easter egg.
I think richard the way I would say it is when
caved in added hd, our ten plus the apple tv, because samsung wasn't gonna break
I don't even like Ben. You know. Like all the fight,
however, there are no more fights. It's just incremental,
there is still some stuff.
Eighty, I see three point our news, your favorite
Very very exciting news: can you just tell people what it is? It's a test
Three point out is the next like broadcasting standard for the four of you in my mom who still watch broadcast tv, I was prices not watching it in another room right now at her house, just its post me better, because you can not only get it through like an antenna, but you can get it through five g, so like you and somebody else can both be sitting together on your couch watch,
I've tv on your phone without having to go through spectrum or charter or whoever your provider has just watching it over the air through five g select theoretic,
We really really really really cool right, but nobody's actually adopting it. There's very few markets that have it.
New york city doesn't have it and it's a whole. Weird complex problem will hopefully talk about more on a future episode of the show, but like I'm in Dallas fort worth right now are the largest markets in the united states. I think we ve got one station that has it and it's crazy. As eighty I see three point I was like she's could solve so many problems, but everybody's kind of figured out. No, we don't want to be broadcast. We all gonna have a little five times that you pay a subscription for georgia.
do that suck it broadcast slowly die and broadcasters, like ok, idiocy through point out we're on file gino surface, and I was the big news. They did a test a couple of weeks ago in they announced that this week that they had like successfully shown off like five g over the year broadcasting in a moving car, which is like kind of hard to do right like if you ever had to mess with india.
As in your house, to watch broadcast tv now. Imagine doing that, while driving sixty miles per hour down the highway. That's like not easy to do so. It is kind of impressive technology, but the fact that none of the markets are adopting it.
is bad yeah. Why? Because others little musicians are having sat up into the owners entire. I can media ownership crisis losing
I think, is one of the biggest ones with sinclair and sinclair was actually part of this big announcement, so they like sinclair who's, who kind of has bought a lot of these broadcast stations, they're very committed to like eighty se, three point o, but also it
claire who has a lot of issues. Syria there also committed to not spending yeah. So, let's see gonna guys, you can do it.
I'm pretty sure there's one. Eighty three point broadcaster by my house up in the woods,
then they have chosen to use the additional bandwidth not for irish equality but to shove. More infomercials, yes, like sub channels of infomercials, is very good yassin,
That was parliament there, like you yeah, we can do so many more channels on the channel, so you need.
What more advertising- and I was like- is that a good thing and they're like oh yeah? It's not a good thing
That's, rational, tvs, algae
bunch of tv is actual start?
not with their weird wireless two issues I got from it, but with this picture,
thing so
if you will remember algerians weber, as I feel like every year at sea s interests me recapitulating the last twenty years to take history. So there
There was some of the less isn't dated still here that we should celebrate that. We should celebrate that if it should be highlighted a national, how the picture so the palm pre frozen hats see here
In two thousand eight the palm tree was announced, answered zs
do our day. Who is now horse. It
Google is that it is out of andred google. He announced the pie
pre along with this new system. Whole weber wes,
You might have heard of it. If you have ever listened to the show before me,
things happen, including the complete collapse of hewlett packard,
and whether less somehow ended up in the hands of algae, which use it
not to make phones, but to put
their tvs and
the thing. Was they needed their own basis?
The tv apps are all html five apps yeah, so they need their own sector on it. Hmm
I've, apps tv robot is still the most fragmented technology landscape in the entire ecosystem. Microloans-
andrew and I laptops like makeovers windows.
next tvs. Our samson has ties in algae has web unless a bunch of people have android from Google a bunch
of andrew android. Google bunch revive
two and then there's like yet more infinity, craziness vision
runs its own weird thing, so tvs are totally all of place. They are run basic issue of items
algeria is where west as well was there
thing. Is they introduce dick
after this a true story: etsy s called being bird now, who's gonna help you
This is true. Israel, real help. You set up your tv
and the idea was that your tedious, who are to use in being bird, could help you
they ve held onto this idea beam
may have disappeared, but the idea,
the tv should be more helpful and algae can help you set it up and then target more advertising. Has persisted aching
So now they ve got this thing, we're in so doing picture modes. When used
turn on your algae tv? It's gonna show you images on the screen and then you can, like click.
with him and tell him which ones you like and then that wall? Just your picture,
Thanks- and this is gonna result does like going to the adopted
it's the eye doctor which, when you are
this one or two- you go look at the pictures, and so you can see in this is going to result in the most bonkers insane picture settings.
On. Grandparents, tvs of all time, like it's gonna, be familiar. Blown out hall highlights massive contrast. Brightness its work with it's gonna be the worst thing in the world like right. Now, I'm watching a shot
you talk about yet on that's coming out on hbo, it's beautiful touching,
story of a dad and his surrogate daughter, and it is so damn dark and every day my mom's watching it with me and she's like this is dark. I can't see anything. Can we turn the brightness up and I refused to allow it because I've already calibrated or tv and I'm like no
This is what they intended, and this is just gonna ruin their careers and ten at super sad, but also
I guess it'll make people happier with their sets. Another are our producer earlier was talking about
will any of the automatic settings turn off the top of it, because I feel that the answers now no, the manufacturers have just decided. That's that, are you going
move. Unless you go in and check no, no, they have they have fel mode. Now they gave Tom cruise a mode yeah
I hope it shows them a clip when their having to select their like, which one looks nice or two you minions too, in super fast soap, opera, mud or not, and I hope they all choose the soap oppermint. I think we're about to learn
one. Lg is clutching a ton of data. With this feature I mean lg is the worst offender when it comes to running ads on their tv's by far the worst they're going to
have the going armed and the next meeting with like tom cruise and christopher Nolan, that people like yourself up and
who I think we're in our people, have just bloggers taste when it comes to picture quality
so they need the reference matters they are starting to add, but then there,
doing this new thing. Where people I mean, you just think it's called the precise picture
I heard to show you six images and mike step
through eight times, and you pick the one you like and there's a I involved
in a lot of tvs are going to look completely insane. What I don't get is why they don't just set everything in like cinema mode, which is calibrated to to be exactly like what the calibration specs for all the people making it do and then just change the brightness, because people have bad
yeah, but like don't let them have teeth
if you'd like to do, I want you to charge your mouse on bottom. I know, what's best
asking that I'm just saying you know what it's supposed to look a little yellow irish talking about other tv's. It is supposed to look a little you're, correct,
people want brighton blue. I have is exactly what we're done.
as in exactly what Alex is talking about samsung with their new tvs. They've got renew minimo. Now now we like we've talked about the settings, but this is like a technology that they are building that it translates from latin to
return. The light then use the samsung ai, of course, to dynamically outline the edges of on screen elements in rebalance colors. I supposed to be supposed to help people with low vision, but, as you said, you're going to come to your parents' house and you're gonna find out that they have this thing on and you are going to see something that you have never even imagined.
it could is because our all home from our holidays or we're all deal with it, but it's there. It never stops never goes away. I turn of motion through the tv that I personally turnoff motion through these two years ago in it just
came back and they denied it.
They said, we don't even watch this tv, and I said now it's back
We women are motives, come in
so this wireless algae tv-
it, makes no sense to me said super expensive. It has a break
hd, my boxy mouth: even your walls have superman power. Cord
and then somewhere else in your room, you plug
in this box was, and transmits wirelessly. This team for the offence
heck, even as a ninety seven inch screen we're assuming it will be extremely expensive. The last time LG shot of a constantly on the tv itself was like one hundred thousand dollars
I'm using. If you have the money
where the intense concepts ninety seven inch tv,
did still needs how're. You saw to hide the power cable. Do you
I don't have the money to hide in another cable. I think this is like they're just doing a really nice service for installers, who are realistically the people setting these tvs outright like if you're spending the money to buy a ninety seven inch tv for, however, much is going to be thousands and thousands of dollars, you're, probably paying an installer to come in and install it and make it all. Look pretty in your house.
And this is just nice for those installers, because instead of having the lake hide a whole bunch accords, they have to hide one cord, one cord.
On one cord and its that's. Why?
less than samsung on their old high in tvs, which had the break out box and let the fiber optic court
This is because, if we do, this already would like all
why'd, I demos we went to ten years ago
yeah, but this is bad. I mean this is their sending four k, one twenty thirty feet, wirelessly, which is insane yeah. The video would have been compressed. Then this is uncompressed pure, is processed in the box. The only thing on the screen is the display and no electronics or whatever it's paper thin can't wait to see what happens when your kid is like microwaving, some hot wings, while you're watching a football game and it just craps out yeah. I don't trust anything wireless, as I think our readers now, I think it's I think it's cool, like I think, if you can bring this we've started to see, samsung slow
bring bring this like out box box idea down into more affordable products. I say more affordable. I mean like what was the the three thousand whom he was on sulphur eight hundred bucks. Yes, I think they brought those prices down. If you could do that the same with this, I personally would never do it, because I love wires, but for a lot of people, those people who like to put their tv over their fireplace, even though you should never ever do that-
This is a dream, come true, but you still have to run power. If you have to run a power table, you can run one each year I can, but what about their xbox and their ps five billion?
Kamal Jesse run it into the break up box. Like the frame tv, you can fix everything-
you're just saying we should just have the brake outbox yet
that's it most tvs.
Davis eliminated the cable from the tv the panel to the breaker box, I know, but like there was a long time where people were like. Why do I need cordless headphones, they're, bad and stupid, and they
are people still love it. We just sit an entire episode ambush
I know, and as everyone listening knows,
think about it
No I'm just like the limitations
I just don't get it
a hundred thousand dollars
but this tv annual and you ve gotta, run power. What does the
we box boxes, get you one
less wired, almost why're, you can play physical games without getting off the couch and you can have everything everything you ve ever want. You can have your your physical media archives, but you don't have to get off the couch to change the movie again it's what, despite what could be a big like tower next to your couch,
It can be great the future still using this. That said, we don't know the input lag, they want say what the employers other
we'll just quickly go through some other stuff wrote you announce its own tv line. The only I want
when out here? This makes sense. Roku has been making tvs in partnership with tcl for years now, they're just putting their own branding on the tv's tvs.
You might have sent me one set down from tee sales tvs, legislative they they want.
What specks in that usually means a can be top line max right, they'll be cheap,
We keep criswell walter, the supper ass. He noted that the person in charge of roku's tv
it's former tcl executive, Chris Larson, so there's keeping that the family. This feels like g,
am like some things are buick and some things are chevy, but they're all the same car. It seems like what's happening with cars. Roku's not making the tvs are definitely rebranding, something so it's tcl or high sense or whatever, who knows, but my ss insignia when signi has also rebranded whatever it.
sidney, as is the best buy us, rather think whenever, whenever the insignia, what whoever they got here, that's who wrote a year ago
So you see how they ve got new branding there. They have
higher inspects and their totally
I've decided. Gamers are their market, which I think is pretty interesting. Actually is we
we haven't we, we have people on this on our staff, we're definitely people some high on south. The number of people who in the pandemic now have like
multiple tvs and are living room, so they can games.
side by side is fascinating. To me:
Richard just gave a very knowing work, often say that
There are two tvs behind me
I think that's fascinating razor made a sound bar the tracks, your head in the room. For I mean this is innocent horrible,
they made a sandbars, I r trackers, like a connect to figure out where your head is in the new surround sound based on where your head is
not now sacraments by us,
I had the original leviathan and then I broke the one of the chords on it and they couldn't they were like. No, we don't sell, we don't have replacements for that. I even went to like the pr guy. I did like the thing that you should never do as a journalist I was like. Do you know if, if you guys make these replacement cords because
I personally want one and he was like: no, we don't get you one and as ignite, I am not going to take one that you like just go and take out of another box. You should just make these, so
and I'm I'm over razor sandbars.
Well, this one is looking for your head within four
Moreover, this particular
It will find you,
We actually didn't entire samsung samson
always and ass, a ton of tvs and criminal,
having dropped. This story in the slack when he was on reddit, is like this isn't the eyes nightmare. Samsung is like all in on ai pictured tricks,
all in on re mapping. Sdr HD are content. All
more processing,
hence vince. Just in general, we like hit the ball
where the panels are all pretty good and sinner,
the effort to differentiate. The panel's is happening on the back and in software, and I would say: well she, cracked. This feels like my nightmare. It's all just weird press
seen tricks across the board turn. All I really want is just
show me the movie, as it was intended to be seen, please what if we didn't do that
although a sheer re, mastering uses a deep learning technology to analyze and apply real time. Hd effects on standard dynamic range content on the scene by seem basis. It's like. I know what that is.
people are really very pictures, will see argos
so your samson now is like everywhere right there making standard our cities are making micro entities and they're making o adds. Yet there, like just a full sack yeah. Are they good
do you wanna own one for more than a year remains to be seen. Here's my question.
Is this final egg. I have an early
b; seven be six algae, a lead,
it's the whole year
even do here. This is the case.
b seven and I don't wanna, be alone when I go and upgrade mine, so do it now,
whilst gave you that the reason that he gave you the reason to get in the new one this year.
The one thing that we haven't talked about: what what, if they have had a software upgrade, that was good. There is something that changed in webquest that he does like the way the notifications popup. Oh so it they not. Everything is bad or the
And some of these new, my two point, one features, maybe they'll even work this year gap level ever
you gotta at least wait for kyoto, ed ted like actually spread out like so far. It's just sony
with their highest and model, which I know they bought
Belge display, but like not even algae, is making a tv with kyoto idea. I would I would wait for that. I'm just gonna get a reference.
Wonder yeah, it's just the tv defiling good enough, and I mostly watch like ultra. Compare
streaming content, but you now find out
put together a plaque server if only the finest uncompress blue. I gotta, give me, wasn't big money for
will they all be from the nineteen. Thirty is probably we, the public
domain without risk,
very good. They're like there is a bunch of other cs displaced. I've seems I had a bunch a role. We fully displays watson prototypes, hearted top del six kay,
oh yeah there. Actually a bunch of people came at the pro display, are down
an samsung samsung case five year display
dell Alba thirty two and six guy? That's pretty its need to see a more competition
they recent c s, displeasure really gonna, say it's hard to talk about displays a sweater
well, look at all. The samson prototypes is a cool as hell there's, not products.
In writing. The tv market with superman shore
Lay the answers I have you want to see. These do not waiting for anything better right now, but you might
well, which is how I justify all multi thousand dollar purchases to be huge game changer next jerry, the new tv, because it will have the enough tat, store we're going to do this
that's my goal. I'm going to sell all of you tokens you're, going to dance together, we're not going to let
we're not going to have to buy or sell on after ex tokens got stuck up. Richard movements stood marketplaces, reopened, we're having a little problem
but it'll be fun. Alright, laser see, as the display show lots of tv news Chris Walsh, has an amazing job. If you want all the details on the staff go read his coverage. Go look at the tech talks of
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amd announced a bunch of stuff for it.
yeah, they announced a lot of stuff amd. This is kind of a big show for them and they usually save some really big stuff for it. One of the big things they announced is like a really fast mobile, gp you, the r x. Seventy six hundred m is expected this year in two thousand twenty three and they're promising, basically nvidia thirty sixty desktop performance in laptop, which is like really really nice, where we're not right. Quite at, like four k, one hundred frames per second, but we're definitely at that for ten atp, so which is what a lot of laptops are at right now. So this is like gonna, be pretty fast. It's a nice bonus, but we don't know what that power consumption is going to look like and just how much battery life these things are gonna crush. I predict a lot
What yeah? Oh amd has gotten a lot better at this, but they're still not like they're. Not apple apple is just schooling, everybody when it comes to power and in performance, but then almost surely the gp said yeah, but I mean kind of even in the you side, right like it's not at the same level and an apple cpu is not going to ever. Give you the same performance or an apple chip, isn't going to give you the same performance as one of these discrete graphics chips, but it's still like the the power consumption is still going to be a problem. This is so probably not going to be a ten hour laptop right. I mean, I hope it is, but I highly doubt it and then the other. The other big news was new. Cpu use all Yay new mobile processors. This is they've got including one. That's got a sixteen core chip, which isn't quite as many as one of the newer intel mobile processors, which has a twenty four
courtship and is there, but it is very funny because these guys are still talking about chores and apples over here being like no, we don't even have to talk about that anymore. We've moved beyond that. Sorry, I'm just amusing amd time to stand about apple and I feel really bad about it, but the apples ruining color for us.
I am but the process for good I mean it
interesting what they're doing here, because it's only sixteen cores, but it's not like intel's kind of big little arm armstrong, storm style approach, they're using on the new chips like they're. All sixteen are all big cores. I guess we're like two. It's like two full eight courtships squeezed into one is what is described it yeah yeah. I think we're starting to think what we're going to we're starting to see and we're going to continue to
see, is that aim d has gotten a lot of work out of infinity fabric right, like they got no longer play over the last six years out of infinity fabric, which is a let them to just bolts, gps and cps together, just bolt core after core after core, under these processors, and get a lot of power and
Nobody else is really started a pivot in the other direction. This big little core and Andy is doing a little bit of that to across the board, but there a little behind my mama.
Of worried. I know they ve taught a number of people, a talk to lisa sue, the ceo be like
Are you guys falling behind again are about to see? Are we gonna get another bulldozer at a year or two, and obviously she sang no. They are not going to drop the ball cat
tropically and we're seeing a lot of work like good work in that mobile space. Right, like this steam deck uses an amd processor and their laptops that have gotten a lot better, but they still get a lot of catching up to do, I would say they're still better than intel for the most part like these processes are still going to be faster
you can find them in a product than the intel processors by a lot of people are really going. No, I want something that is fast and has really good battery life. I don't necessarily kick care about having the fastest
in the world in a moment, how will they find it with these names?
I feel, like I'm gonna credit, they changed the naming scheme for the processors this year, our daddy, you you don't like the names, so
breathing is a seven thousand series this year and then that the third
Number tells you how good it is not the first number like it used to be
like, you haven't, you have to read a chart to figure out what the numbers mina
everything is a thousand
from articles. First, her
the potential star of the show is the quote: dragon range zen for rising nine: seventy nine forty five, each
Rules are enough. There are new naming always done. It does know that
snow. Somebody's, for this is the same naming scheme right. They ve always had the first numbers, the general,
they changed the it's.
It has been numbers like this, but they changed the way that the numbers go still for letters and is still four numbers and a letter, but it's the first number is the portfolio year. So it's seven this year for twenty twenty three. The second number is market segment, so like the most powerful ones or nine one is the one that you shouldn't buy. The third number is the zen architecture. So, like one two or three in the fourth number, is I dunno what the fort numbers
peter isolation and I've got a five day. Its evil confusing over. The good news is the people
who buy the chips directly to install in pcs directly, we'll figure it out right if you're, if you're out there just like, buy and bear cpu or ear and affairs at
Maybe Andy had some problems with the wrong names on their sleep use during the press conference. As someone they
repeated? We combine the wrong things over with his mother. Do not match it knows so, every its, but by our way, by the time they arrive on store shells, were your favorite online retired figured out, but we transport our it's the company's it's dead. Oh, I m so need to figure this out and the market the chips
at the same time, I think is.
amnesia faster than that until trip impossible for regular person to know at this moment in time, the socially taxes on possible even tat, ass, the like for the mobile chips, it's kind of its a toss up, because they can't do just an apples, apples nobody's gonna be making the exact same laptop.
And just switching our processors, anymore. Yeah, that's enough of the last option. Cs are basically using the same ships and the like. The features are where competing.
It was very much echoes the tv conversation like area
he's got no place like being good enough to see me enough. They were now
french waiting on actually bonkers features which brings me
size sides. I can't be time about ships with stood hope.
whenever as much stuff whenever new think work
with modular accessories like an elsie module webcam. Why our stuff it cool
you all in one with a really need stand. Look they might have found the thing pad furnished were. None of these matters is the only reason that we're doing the show day is it.
Can we not the eating tat their weird kimball strive to known a black supper, Alex
the yoga book and nine I, which is a do
we'll scream laptop it has,
stand that lets you
stand by
screens up in portrait configuration
like a removable keyboard that comes with it and then just
you gotta watch the video go watch monitors like over the moon about the thing it looks so cool.
We have done this affairs yeah, yeah, really nice,
I think I'm really sorry, because we ve been seeing this exact like concept for years for a while, you could
go to a single meeting with amd or intel without them showing off a concept like this and be like dual screens are coming microsoft, Zurich, it to everybody, would have these big meeting and it was shot this exact concept but genk,
is hell, and this is like slightly less janky. Dual thirteen point. Three inch touch me
It's a common eu. You can actually buy it
dreamily weird.
vertical to hand. This is so much so watch this video,
watch this video site. Remove you ve all see monica you
sure or even she's, been on the show.
She's so carefully there. This thing that she's, like shit,
this easy ten fingers squat enough of that
the thing was amazing. This is like,
What why cs exists is this laptop if I can always violent
I am one hundred percent by one and then realize I need for this at all and not use it
but just look at the configurations. Are you gonna return it like they? Do we needed just time how long it takes you to return? It
Dear, I mean eminent. Have it
use like look at it
that you can open it and then have both screens in portrait
sideways signorina like a man
yeah or like one full screen slack and won the full screen darkened the key words in front. You can see.
The invasion in when it bottom. Spain is the keyboard
the key borne down the keyboard? An affront, and then you get a variety of status indicators that, whenever things are important, bush are not important it, so it has had to say
feels like you typing, when you say, yeah, there's no way that a laptop size such in keyword is gonna, feel retrofits heft.
twenty one hundred dollars. Thirteen the intel cores one
ceasing eggs rambo and has come. It's gonna ship in june has pen. This is the future you, whatever eating nonsense. You think.
you running is think exciting thing about it is that the case and the pen and the keyboard are included,
it's like that was the part. I was like duh, it's a steal. How can you afford not to buy a lenovo instead of twenty five hundred? It's two thousand for everything, Peter Kenny.
get the name right six. How can you not by whenever yoga black man I in them?
for a bluetooth keyword? Have you considered north africa, which comes with a full laptop with dual thirteen point there angels? I wanted so badly its
What am I found? An miss nancy s like
The sensation of walking into a hotel sweet but has been arranged to display hundreds of laptops, unlike weird break out box,
for tv is a note like I can smell that room
you spoke of old coffee,
lying glossary, salad in the corner kind. I get in a little old, beautiful, no one ever its efforts,
I am vision in getting on a plane with decent and pulling out my dual stack. Oh, let's in front of me the dinner
above my head, yeah and I'm not
first, what you do is you: are you walk up and down the aisle that plane finding the one do with it?
amazon galaxy fold whose hot shit
persons on every plain now, there's one due to the stars and galaxies folders. I hope all right
you pull out your yoga book it just for
vertical unfold you through
your keyboard is livestock typing with your foot, why you hold that
waking up like a squirrel, don't sit down.
I am never going to get kicked off a plane. That's how I'm going out! I'm not doing any of this like comfort, animal stuff, I'm doing
ran into old timey navigator, one foot in the air, a keyboard, double stack, Ola display display. That's enough of her,
talk about this scandal scrub it's better than I can scribe because it can actually lets you do more note taking stuff, but it's also worse in that
doesn't have an app store. It has. It runs android, but it doesn't have an app store. He had said load a lot of image types of book types. It's very, very hamstrung. It's very clearly meant less for people who want to read and more for like people
used to buy the sony he paper tablets just lets. You do markups a pity ass! That's who this is for, and so like call, maybe it'll bring the price down on these. No taking devices window has been playing around with eating for a really long time. I love that they're doing like an all eating device.
I probably won't by one I'd love to review on Lenovo call me: are you think, to look
which has a color eating screen on the back of regular display and it around yeah well
not for a while, but now it's just color. This is the year for color eating.
de I can spend around its swimmers or for that matter,
in for the sp yeah, they had one with a swivel, I'm pretty sure, because they have the original ones, which was like the the then like the screen and you open it up in one sciences, inc and the other was color, but then at one point, they're were like okay, we're just going to have a swivel
you can just decide which screen you want to use this. The next time. I see you you're not trying to operate the version of each color yankee thing that I'm very disappointed
I get some work to do I'll call you later by
I love the hiv dragonfly pro chrome book because it is a crumb with cheap, its
I am one thousand percent by one of these regulations.
I will monitor the Y yeah shit
I have refused to Canada's it's like that
fr in situ in her excitement over the ogre work, where she's, like you just gotta, watch a video she's goods, gleeful she's gleeful,
three was here that was so hats, infectious and then she's like why?
these keys light up and no one can see her. She
so pointed out that the hps
The lead line is for professionals in the pro line is for consumers
like, through, like words, have no meaning for your pack. It in this way,
or hp elites of you can?
it'd be a lie and professional products hp pro for consumers very good by buying a computer with your own money, yeah natalie know not a leaf, but pro thrill promise.
I'm super interest by brought my parents come famously brought live. Hence a couple years ago it was the crumbling pixel. The fact
dollar first chrome book in it. It is now
of life. They got a message: why was home saying that it would receive no more software,
which is hilarious, is cause it's just chrome, forgetting to the new one
it's yours, so I got to get them into that. I can't get on the pixelbook. That's a way step down from a pixel in and now you can buy them the hp, dragonfly proletariat,
you're a gamer, now mom.
Look he's going to emigrate.
However such she's over the razor edge, it's cool,
This is right.
There's been doing a lot of work over the years with making mobile phones and they ve been doing a lot of work over the years with making controllers that you can plug into mobile phones, and then they said what, if it's all one thing, and we work with her eyes in the cellar
yeah and it's got five g using less energy, and this is actually what was missing from the scheme. That was the ability to bite on contract from rising.
Three hundred and sixty bucks wifi only is three. Ninety nine think about that. If I mean what a deal I'll go with a steam deck, I'm going to stick with this theme deck for right now, especially with stadia
in a couple of weeks. I these is very him. The pressing here is like old school phone. Contrary pricing,
the wifi. Only model has three ninety nine five g model without a contract. Five, ninety nine, but if he'd sign of rising contracted three fifty nine,
does he does. The math is like this is how much rising soaking you for its two hundred dollars, soak it it's pretty good.
I dunno it economists and excess seven
A look at it am, I is an extra seven. It's a phablet like the phablet is back in razor razor resurrected, the phablet. Instead, what? If it you stuck it in between two sides of the controllers and had something for all of your cloud gaming? So if you don't already have a steam deck and you don't already have one of the other many like mobile pc
handheld right now. This is this is a cool is an interesting option. I think the big gestures only arise and spyware to actually do club gave me like this, and you will see.
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delta and t mobile. Making inflate wifi free, if you have sky miles, sounds great. Also
He just new anybody with a t mobile phone number. He should take them had that number, which is
now, if you'll control disclosing, but it was
before I some place. It was like that in some place it would not have,
as for noticing the all flights three would have if but there's this thing,
dealt a single, giving you this thing for free there,
target ads you on this network, somehow they ve
tired personalization, which is a code for targeted ads,
and as we know so, I s- peas, mobile, carries in particular love
to do weird. I targeting stuff love to collect data, and we raise. I just want to read these terms a service before the second life. That's all I'm saying
They say how fast it'll be it's mostly personal, reassuring because it's via it's, not the old girl stuff,
does is also doing testify. Having a butcher.
The testing come aside, but
I mean I'm fighting this one is free. Invite wifi is great cool whatever
When you add that when you just like throw the word personalization into the mix like oh they're, going to do some weird ad targeting
think about what you're using that life. Ifor, don't don't don't go to certain places with this wifi. Also,
kids around, but also it is you're on a plane alex, I seen it happen-
and I watched people just like load up on their phone. I'm ok, we
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Applause
There's a new version of Chea the wires trading protocol. She called
jews, editor Nathan, Edwards is so excited about channels.
Ridiculous excited by this basically what's happened here, unsurprisingly,
there is she the while sending the wireless charging protocol apple, took it forward.
into mag. Safe, puts magic science
for some moments I read: did the coils did some
authentication stuff to charge at a faster rate, but still
are compatible. She and now
apple says we're gonna, give the magnet stuff to cheat at some form the basis of cheap to it all
for non flat connectors. I e a watch very exciting. All around
The magnets still not be strong enough to hold up a found, which is a huge mess.
The huge mess for those of you like me, who are addicted to buy a car charges for your phone and
clear, whether she too, we back compatible with mag safe as it currently exists, so
some bits in bob's here, but at last,
apple, decided that mag safe wishes,
more or less not a success
it's a success and that it exists in the apple ecosystem in
nobody adopted it and people,
like deacon by accessories for it, but the man
sir to eat, to do anything particularly interesting
There's just always weird, like my favorite max, if accessories a little puck that I bought to mount by my bathroom mirror. So I can watch tv in the morning will rushing my teeth? Does it work
its awesome. It rules. I highly recommend you spend fifteen dollars on a mac safe back to my next, your bathroom years. You can open youtube in the morning. You're youtube tv, unlike his threat,
you're doing fine richard thrown inciting righted, unless I guess no use now, because now
on android will all have an interest in life is like is one of these were
It's only been on, I feel, like I've heard about him. I hope that some school but I've- never
actually use it to find out what it doesn't. Do it like, where the shortcomings
it just- doesn't do a lot. It's a wireless charging thing with weak magnets, but what
is true. Is that every eye for now has magnets built into the back of it, so other companies
can make stronger magnets for things like mounts in cases which are neat.
But the combination of I want strong magnets fifteen
What wireless charging in some way it does
Look totally ugly has alluded every, and you need to be certified by apple that you can't. You cannot because nobody's crack that one nobody's fault
so we get there. Also having the big question is whether she, too, with magnets, we'll be back compatible max. If, because I think the answer might be no cameras,
the chauvinism, bunch of smart home stuff, it's a big here for matter. If the year for matter,
the year for matter, it's, I would say matter- has not got off to a raging. Start apple had to pay
remember. We did the update, for I was thinking they pulled it.
but there's new bridges through new eve, the region
surgeons at the show, we're in a doctor a bunch next week about this expensive, but she says she's to sing matter everywhere. She seeing everybody's like
the new refrigerator with matter and even less
with matter like everybody, that's that's how they announced that they. Now it's all this up in there like in matter, so she seemed just everywhere. Amish
the floor right now. So I really about excited about is there's this new philips hue, app that you can get on samsung tv's, and it will let you sync all of the lights on the back of your tv. If you put philips hue lights on the back of your tv it'll, let you sync it with all the cons
and without having to go through a breakout box, but because they still want money, you have to pay one hundred and thirty dollars for the Apf. You don't know if you can take that app with you. When you give your t v dies and you get a new tv will you have to pay another one hundred and thirty dollars. There's a bunch of questions about this also like why not just make samsung pay for the technology and be like hey look. If you plug your philips hue,
it's into the new samsung tvs. You can automatically sync just like a bunch of worries and go by any number of goofy kits on amazon, for, like fifty bucks accomplish this goal, we have kept. You have to have like a camera pointed at your tv. This you don't have to have anything pointed
you not to worry about like oh. I really need this to go through hd, my two point one. So I can get there in the box only
It's hd am I to point out: you don't have to worry about any of that. You can just be like go. It works for all the different apps on your tv and everything. So any like input to your tv.
Does it yeah, but, and I already dollar app
right. That's where you lose me. I understand the points you're making. Unlike the gobi kids, like fifty bucks, you point a camera at your tv cause de yeah. No more computers required
the exciting, very stupid alone.
Jen also covered the weird wooden plank matter controller this
The thing I most excited with matter it at the end of the day is now you can
different kinds of smartphone controllers. I can talk to everything.
It's like here's, a cutting board. You can mount on the wall to turn your lights on and off it. I was like yeah, I'm in it
like this is what we need some exactly what we need
And lastly, we should talk about this wedding's p sensor, you just stick it in your toilet and pee on it and tells you your metabolism is doing if it's great people really care about the patience
yeah. I will say that the peace answered a remarkable traffic, here's a line from the story written by
korea, it sounds relatively simple, but with things is serious about p,
It took four years and thirteen patents, but you don't have to do anything until it's time to recharge the readers switch out cartridges, the reader,
the period or that you put your toilet usb see my friends.
and thus we have a battle really long conversation about this in the editing process, because I just had all the questions I was like well like. Do you have to touch it all the time like? Are you having like reach down there and touch the peapack before ticket
and no you don't you stick it in there. This cartridges, it comes with some gloves.
if we want our whole now to see gloves mean,
hardly find you? Let's just like a polite thing.
and the idea is anytime, you Piana ill detected and do a test
so sometimes you may have to like do some some shifting to make sure you're not being on it. If you dont want to test, because it has like a hundred cartridges
hundred days of peter skinner gives out about the number ones mortal story that every surprise me, the shower buds
the wing before you on the sheriff hudson. I just reading this quote about data collection in the gdp. Compliance of the peace answer
the club. It's our company guideline not rule out any one. To look at that data.
We still need to look at the details regarding law enforcement, just
who was the clubs look at my to eat? It does show them. I hear it. Please
alright richard. What was your number one? The number one spot people could not get enough of this story. The shower paths are here to turn your bathroom into a spa. They've got aroma therapy shower infusion system appears
the more more than magsafe when you're brushing your teeth. This is what the people need. I dunno I didn't quite get it, but the girls who get it get it
can still smell things. Yes,
we're losing out to see us like what loves loves it
I had a glass you do like a ten thousand dollar toilet for plumbing company. They got big tech, him
since they do, I mean this is just to the pods. You know it's like a cure or aromatherapy pods in like a shower that takes coupons, there's not a lot of probably a subscription package for your for your shower. Like I, I see I see them at no yeah yeah, they they're going to
more pots. Here's a quote from a press release collar says the pods are safe to use and your entire body, which
it's a shower worth
as a lot of people are asking questions that should be answered by making every bet yeah like. If, if there's something that I assumed from the jump, it was
is the shower safe from my entire bought it very good who is making the parts that art say for your entire body is what I wanted
as with the right. The illegal pods yeah don't buy those illegal pies people begin to the discord somebody just making body parts
his funds burn burglary, here's your business, all richard the design of the sprig, sour pods or color specific rules
If there's actual software drm, but right now or at the pods or shape they have to fit in the thing twenty one
dollars for six pack of single use, pods la twenty four,
where's for single multi use pod with eight uses
multi use pod with it uses and do the matter. How many? How many went? What constitutes a
use. All I'm saying is they're going to charge you about three dollars per shower, no matter which way you're going twenty one dollars for six single use, pods twenty four dollars for a multiuse pod that can be used a time. Do you think the showerhead stops working? If you don't have a partner like you, just aren't allowed to be cleaned.
That's what I'm sort of burning you of this software, because some because someone's hacked divides. This is like warning. This is no longer say for your entire body, but we're not tell anywhere enjoy the collar corporate.
It's true that this is one of our top stories and his entire cs, and I appreciate all of you for reading about the shower. Pods
one of my favorite headlines of all time was a Paul miller, Ashley, carman, joint and then Paul had the byline, but I think Ashley actually came up with the headline. It was just the word. Tortilla pods in all capital letters
It was the whole story, no further explanation and it was
a start up. A significant pod systems. Exports
very good have at all. The comments were like you can just make short,
because a deeply soft, proper, very good.
What pods iraqi ruins? Yes, is rock n roll indoors tons of news on the site? I'm book aside
I have the foma there's a part of me that
for my own health. I'm happy, I'm not there. It's it's bad to be there. It's bad to be about it's bad, for you,
but I I miss, I miss our team, I miss scatcherd. I miss hotel rooms in the coffee smell. I still got the sea s oak, despite not being
I miss walking out of and over a briefing believing in my heart that eight and ten finger gestures on a dual scream, thirteen point three inch, oleg laptop.
the future of all computing like. I feel that, but
don't worry, there's more cs to come. There
floor today. Tomorrow they ran through me
and ass. You said we ve got more show to come so surgeon
but matter. Yes, gin and chris and Andy can be cutting a bunch next week it to emigrate.
Very good. I gotta go keep reading cs coverage. I can't I can't stop it's all.
site. I'm in the comments goes up me, I'm off twitter
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terrifying reporters like getting fights Mcloughlin
stammered if it should stop it, but I'm
for you find me you can sweet
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our j c c. I am. I need check their replies or a couple. Those three like twitter,
let us work back on Wednesday is more c s coverage. That's it we're just right
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