60-year-old Richard Hillmann disappeared after leaving a Friendsgiving party in Merlin, Oregon on November 22, 2017. Richard had plans to cook Thanksgiving dinner for some friends the following day but but by then, Richard was missing. No trace of Richard or his Toyota pick-up truck have been found. Richard's case is baffling with many different theories but not much concrete evidence.
If you have any information about the disappearance of Richard Hillman, please call the Josephine County Sheriff’s Department at 541-474-5123. To contact the private investigator, please call the tip line at 541-414-6685. If you would like to follow this case on Facebook, they have a group called The Search for Richard Hillmann.
January 24, 2019 UPDATE from Richard's daughter:
"It's with a heavy heart that I share some sad news. Yesterday afternoon a gentleman discovered my father's truck along an embankment and partially submerged in the Rogue River, approximately 25 miles west of where he was last seen in Merlin, Oregon, in a fairly remote area. Due to the description, OSP was called to the scene where they confirmed the license plate. There is a badly decomposed body seatbelted in the driver's seat, who will likely be identified as my father. Due to the location, and limited amount of daylight remaining, the vehicle and scene were secured by OSP and left overnight to recover first thing this morning. This remains an investigation so I probably won't be able to share as much as I'd like, but wanted to at least get this piece of information out to everyone.
Thank you for continuing to keep my father's story in your prayers and for all of the sharing on social media to make sure he didn't just fade away from people's memories. We obviously never believed we would see him again, but getting this news doesn't make the loss any easier. I guess it does provide some relief just knowing we have him now and can say our proper goodbyes. Hopefully now we can start determining exactly what happened to him. RIP Dad. "
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right now: all we have is that at about six thirty, he vanished from there.
And there were maybe fifteen people, twelve fifty people that were there with him and it all kind of just hit. The whole thing starts right there for the missing persons case
in honestly now it didn't want buggered any kind of a struggle at all I mean it looked like my dad had simply just laughed and, like you
I plan on coming back sixty.
rolled richard homing, attended a friend's, giving get together and merlin Oregon on the evening of november twenty second, two thousand seventeen
witnesses who were at the party claim that they saw
Pull away that evening in his green toyota, pickup truck heading in the direction of his home
no one has seen or heard from Richard since in his truck, has never been located. Rich.
lived alone, so nobody immediately realised that he was missing when it,
He was unable to reach him for several days. They asked the sheriffs department to go check on him.
arrived at his home. There was no sign of richard, but also
no sign of a struggle which
It plans to have some friends over thanksgiving, which was the day after he went missing,
It appeared as though richard had been pressing for the holiday he had just purchased
all the necessary ingredients and had a turkey following in the refrigerator
its daughter, lorry and her husband neck, having trying to piece together all the clues, with the hope that these clues will lead them to richard. But with all
clues pointing in different directions. The answer to what happened of richard remains a mystery amorous
and this is episode- one hundred and twelve of the vanished richer.
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and though june's journey for free today on, I owe us an android recently. I was contacted by long time listener of the show.
She asked me if I could help her sister in law. Lorry who was richards daughter. Lorry has been desperately searching for her father, but it's been
ferko because she lives several hundred miles away in California. Laurie
her husband nick have hired a private investigator and have made trip such organ to search for richard, but all they fell
So far are a series of clues and rumours that aren't leading to any concrete answers before we get too far into this story.
It's what you know that some names have been changed to protect the privacy of certain individuals leading up to richard disappearance.
Living alone in his trailer in the greens pass over nightmares are park, even though
richard was financially secure. He preferred
being a more minimal lifestyle. People who know richard.
rob him is having a heart of gold. Richard was true.
To Oregon due to his love of the mountains and the appeal of a slower pace life, he would often send it
the photos of himself hand feeding dear and his yard,
he was also known to help out others whenever he could as many
Thus do richard had encountered some rough patches in life and he was lucky to have friends who helped him through those times. He never forget
how the kindness of friends got him through those rough patches and was always trying to pass that forward by helping others in need. When I spoke to laurie, she gave me a little bit of background
Information about her dad
my dad, grew up in
the bay area with a big family
and shortly after my parents separated
started kind of migrating north, eventually finding his way up to
tat an organ where he looked for the past, like seventeen or eighteen years, the carpenter by trade,
than that for a long time, he had a injury to
his shoulder the beginning of the last year and that,
an aside, mind him for a while until he ended up having surgery on it last june, and they ve been all find this ability for a few months. One aspect
richards lifestyle that has made his case a little more difficult is eddie do live alone, so he did
have someone there who knew as normal schedule and he kind of kept to himself
he banana relations are really in a long time. There was, I guess, women,
He would see every now and then and one in particular that he thought for a while became call her mercy. I guess
him in mercy. I think I must have known each other while because she got arrested, introduction in prison per maybe
over the years. He would send her money frequently in
help her out put me books, I guess so that she can,
true that and then, when she was released from prison. I think she tried a role to my dad home therein grant path and the owner of the trailer park at my dad lived in lisbon too. Keen on that idea,
so she never ended up moving in, and I don't know if that was kind of the demise of their relationship or not, but they did continue to keep in touch. In fact, I think, even recently, before he disappeared, there were
they'll talking but other than that. My dad haven't had any fears, relationship and had been a long time. In fact, if you had a tourist relationships, though he's gonna have to himself
richard was known to live a very regimented lifestyle. This is,
its disappearance, all the more mystifying because he was
never wanted to just take off on a whim. He had a schedule,
and he generally stuck to he had like people.
On friday. Then he would go to the little bar next to the place that had little gambling machines, machine liquor, slot machine, a video slot machine,
that their legal any the bars of an organ. So that's what he liked to deal. You really love the gamble,
He would go there on fridays while he would order pizza and wait for his pizza. He'd go gamble a little bit and then you'd go home and eat pizza and watch tv, and he was a generally.
too bad pretty early and a pretty early, never really drove past dark honestly, according to what its friends had been telling,
I mean even on two days to visit quandary day right so need definitely had like that tangible earth. We he liked to drink, but I think
exactly a year ago, or so they had diagnosed him with being pre diabetic, so he was really working to kind of cut back on that and I think he's been pretty successful from what we can tell from his medical records.
We explained to me that she and her dad kept in touch over the phone.
was always shirt, collar, birthdays and holidays, but over the
last year or so they haven't been speaking quite ass. Much though my dad were taught me pretty.
frequently I got once a month.
Maybe even more frequently than that for a while and then the last year, our daughter with
but our own, and it was during the winter time in my gathered and small trailer. So might
I never made it down to see her and meet her because he was worried about his pipes. Freezing. If you didn't leave the heater on in the trailer the pipes would potentially freeze and so for that
Then I guess he never made it down to meet her and
applying, became a divide between us, because I think my feelings were kind of work that he has never made it
efforts at ten downing meat has one and only grandchild, and so the last year or so my dad- and I have not been as love me, so I hadn't even talk to him.
He texted me on my birthday in august and men generally. He would collar tax further
the and thanksgiving came and went, and I never
I heard from him and honestly I didn't think too much about it until I heard from my aunt, so I kept up with him and we kept up with each other, but we just weren't as close. However, my dad would talk to his sisters, he had a,
if you're in central, california and error
in the bay area and he talked with them pretty frequently at least a couple of times a week, each both of them. So they have a pretty good idea of what his day to day was like and they kept him.
it touch much more so than me, and my daughter, my brothers and my dad as Lurie said, thanksgiving, came and went
She didn't hear from her dad alarm bells.
didn't, go off immediately until she came to find out that no one else had heard from him either. My aunt
on a call me, and I could immediately sent a worrying for boys. She called me on Monday night after thing giving and she had asked if I have heard from him- and I mean at first I would like now. You know
don't talk to doubt that often anymore, if she should like, while you know, we haven't heard from him didn't before thanksgiving and so
Helen many worried because I knew that talked to them and then at that point a kind of wrong in my ear.
that, like a lion, Daniel
Call me or text me for thanksgiving, which was not like him
we contacted the oregon state police and ask them
to do a welfare check on her dad. She was
to provide them with the address for the park that he lived it. But she didn't
the exact space number. She also
the men description of his track, hoping that would help them locators trailer. They went and they actually never got back me I'd better get. They went that night, my aunt daddy, who often
and pretty frequently she ended up, calling them and that's when they said that they couldn't find his exact location in the trailer park. They looked for his vehicle, but didn't see it so they didn't know what the trailer was
to go knocking on the door and they said that she should call the Josephine county.
Sheriff department in the morning when they open up when she did and the next morning she called an act that they could tell me not to do well. First
and they went and obviously hemisphere what their farming and then proceeded to palm all the local hospitals. To talk to.
I think maybe one or two different handling company an inch or so called the does like,
you know, I got up the road problem
not thirty or forty miles up the path from this house that he had to go to occasionally that she called there and also called like one of the hotel across the street, meant
be attractive marin shorting having any luck, though, she would come in communication with the shirt
at that time, and they said well before them on
tuesday morning now so they said well, richard heavy schedules
he went every way been fighting or his physical therapy appointment for his shoulder and she always went to them. You never met them, so she said well, let's see, I guess if he goes to the appointment and they thought that that was a good plans to make sure that you didn't show up there and sure enough. He did so at that point here.
considered a pushed in the last time that anyone had seen or spoken to richard was on november twenty. Second, there
the delay in reporting him missing, which lorry explained to me. They didn't alert a plate prior today.
even though they had been calling my dad pretty much every day, so things giving. I think. Actually, my aunt Debbie called him one day knights and went straight to voice mail at that time.
And then continue to call thursday Friday saturday, sunday monday, and they were
having any luck but going straight to voice mail, but they didn't wanna like pushed too much because you know- and this is a sixty year old man with a level of his life and do what you want, and they were worried that maybe dad just wanna tell like go. Have
I'm fine, even though wasn't like him to just leave.
and not answer his phone or not return the phone call they were just like. You know he's an adult and kids allowed to do whatever he wants me, so we don't
over everybody and then these fine and then use angry- that we like put it all out there, so they kept their distant. They want
allow my dad, you noted
Everyone else, but then it turns out David,
by- and nobody is heard from, and at that point they decided you known that it was time to do something. Once richard was reported missing, everyone was trying to trace
I have to figure out. When was the last time that anyone had seen or heard from him when the sheriff went out to richard's trailer, he found a very important clue on the door. The sheriff went to my dad trailer
take a look in on back when he found a note from its brand on the door thing hey rich, been looking for. You kind of worry call me
the neighbour to my dad trailer, showed up, and he said he
in a minute he was worried about em
I don't know how it came about, but were ended up happening is its neighbour with a home to get into the like fire,
Hatch door of my dad's trailer that was like underneath basically and he was able to
inside and he got inside and thought it. The
heater was on like this.
heater and then he also had like bees heater. That was
so on he said there was no final
anything in there, but they were just basically making sure that
that was an american to cease and just wanting to make sure. Basically you wasn't there, but he did not have the heaters on and so
came back out, he couldn't take our hata unlocked the door, so the sergeant at that I never even when, in the trailer the sergeant assigned to richard case called the friend MIKE, who had left a note on the trailer door
This is what led them to the last people known to see richard the third at that time, to the appalling thought to call his ran mike and
you might have kind of that know. My dad was there at is how the night before thanksgiving and they had like a friend giving type dinner with him and his friend kelly, though its kelly's home that might lead them
So Kelly had a friend giving invited a bunch of friends over her she's, not mind out a couple times and also invited him to come over as well. Tat was
are. We know the night before thanksgiving and his friend my sad. You know
I thought him leave that night and he turned laughed like you would go on home. We said he laughed around nine, thirty
and that was the last you heard from him. My claims that these
richard leave and drive off in the direction that he would normally take to drive the short forty five miles trip back home,
It was also able to provide information about the plans that richard had for thanksgiving,
and he called them the next morning, because apparently my bad was gonna, be hosting a little thing. Giving it had. Power might said that Heaven
how are you were gonna, be going over to my dad fur and giving and he wasn't sure what time, though, heap eddie
all my dad in the morning and went straight to boys or actually he said he couldn't remember, but went straight.
No, not that better call them in the morning to see what time my dad one of them to come over and he didn't end.
so he called them again a little bit later and he never heard from him. I wondered if there was any sign of a struggle inside richards, trailer
Maria nick made the trip from their home in california to meet the sergeant at richards home, and we finally went up.
and I met with the sergeant at my dad trailer and my husband was able to also get through that had she was able to unlock the
and get into it. He figured out how to mark the front
were and let it then and in honestly now,
but there's any signs of a struggle at all. I mean it looked like my dad had simply just laughed and, unlike
He had planned on coming back, I mean there were no no sign of it.
Will it all and you have been doing dinner,
ingredients that he had just purchased on that one day we found a receipt for it and
sitting out on a chair and light.
you re to make them or thanksgiving on thursday? Without me,
it will. Then why does call cases marked monday to do I bicker thereby further than that, and you know that is to brush and everything was still there
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We know that richard only had to make a short drive home that evening
snorri a neck. If there was one major brute home from likes or if there were several different ways that he could have driven when someone
in their vehicle go missing. At the same time, the first thing that you
think is an accident right
That really is the one route that if you'd been there before that there too I get to rout, but they here
it's like
one main road and then there's like a little a little fibre that you can take.
but the majority of that road between my dad and MIKE, how is populated
It is the main road through that town,
called merlin and if my dad had gone off the side of the road,
at any point on that particular path home, he would have been noticed. His
What would have been noticed or my dad would have been noted, its very small mountain town by its part of the population and enough traffic on that road, that nothing would have been
and really there's not many different directions. My dad could have taken from her. How also without being noted,
even if he had gone like a long way around, which might add for mike that he found her left so he
didn't go a long way around, then it just doesn't make sense how if he turn left to go home, he should have made at home pretty easily. Sometimes we hear about missing persons, cases being solved thirty or forty years later, when a car is found submerged in a body
water. My first thought was if richard would have passed by any bodies of water during his drive back from the party, but law
inform me that there weren't any major bodies of water on the way home from mike's. There is a river and grants pass called the rogue river
that would have been very far out of the way and there is no end
haitian that richard had any reason or plans to head in that direction.
The sergeant assigned a richards case, along with lorry nick and others, have driven the possible routes that he could have taken home that evening. They look for any place that he could have gone off. The road
stop the search, those areas with no luck. Looking for an accident,
hasn't led to any answers, so they decided to go back and look closer at the events of the day that he was last seen. This is when they started to get different stories from the people who had been at the friends giving party
The interesting thing to us, and that was brought up remote right away, that they said that he laughed about nine thirty right fucking. My aunt thought that was so weird because it's like jackhammer to that late. In fact, most of the people that we've talked to you,
having said that, in order for it to be driving at night with unusual weep
leader, that the french giving dinner was supposed to be,
around three, thirty or four with when they were eating, but about got kind of late, and so they think that something they dinner actually ended up happening between
I haven't by thirty, and so, if that's the case, then, after speaking with one of the people there, it looks like actually that dad maybe had had left at like six, thirty or seven, and not nine thirty, like his friends, had said so MIKE.
heavily bout me the story that they had dinner, like seven thirty nine than last problem.
Lee around nine thirty patent.
and then, when someone else talk to them and they said the deadlock
probably run either. Your nine
the times. Never really working that that, with this group of people, lorry was able to find someone
else who had been at the party and her version.
of events were a bit different. Just a quick note before the following clip:
We mentioned the use of marijuana at this friends, giving get together and record
surely use of marijuana is legal in the state of origin. We later talk
to someone who they want to give us the names of people at the party, and we talk to one
lady, there very nice lady, should super helpful. Very sweet doesn't work.
or you no smoke potter. Anything like that in a town like that's what a lot of what was going on at the party, and she had said that one of the stuffing that without the party was actually laced with pot and inadvertently ate some of that stuffing and
she was pissed. She said she was so back and she didn't farewell, and you know when
and then she hung out for a few minutes, but then she wanted to leave and she was saying if someone can drive her home and I guess they had suggested- maybe my dad said because her house was on his way home, but she didn't want to leave her truck there. She wanted to have,
truck so, but my dad didn't give her a ride home, but she ended up. Doing is just driving herself home and when we, after what times should back, she said it was probably about pick thirty.
I have been at the latest when she would have gotten home and she knows that because she has a lot of animals. She has a bunch of
well, there's a lot of animals that she seized by certain time, and so she said chauvelin.
In any later than seven o. She couldn't recall
though, whether or not I dad left before or after her, and we just thought that was interesting because that change the timeline significantly.
When lorry and nick made the trip to oregon search for richard, they got makes phone number off of the note that was left on the trailer door. They were
eventually able to get in touch with making kelly, but they didn't have much offer my had been aligned.
How did we needed to go up there because it didn't seem like a lot, was happening,
so. We went up to my dad's house and that's where we met with the sergeant at his trailer and we were able to get in and kind of look around and stuff and determined that you know kind of looked like he had just laughed and intended on coming back but didn't make it back. We were able to get
Add friends friend's number mike- and I called my and texted- might several
hi? I was there and I never heard back from him
and then
Monday. I was at home.
And there was a lot of people region
not to me and specifically friends from my dad trailer park.
And one of them was able to give me kelly's for number.
so I was able to talk to colleagues now she called me back and at first reading
Really, you know we're coming and she was trying to be helpful and she was very apologetic about what we were going through and she couldn't believe that he was missing and eventually might got on the phone to and you know,
when they told me that that left, probably around nine thirty, can a pact that night and that
you know he had a couple a drink, but that he was definitely not drunk and mad. He said
are, we were planned on going to think giving at about the next day, but we never heard from him. I've had conversations with her since then. In short, everything pretty cheerful and upset about the situation. I have not been able to talk to mike again
in that time, and he contacted me like on facebook, with some messages. Just saying
how he missed my dad. There were good buddy himself, but he didn't
having information to offer- and you know it
never even reported my daddy. They obviously knew he was missing for several days. I just thought it was weird that they never even thought to call the police and say like hey. You know, we last saw him
on waiting for thanksgiving and we ve been going by his house, but he had not been there and fund going straight to voice now that never happened and for being such good friends. I just find that.
disheartening honestly, I mean, I hope I had better friends and that someone would think to call
or do something more.
even though, on the trailer, considering that this party was the last place at richard was known to be
I wonder just how long he knew these people were. They
time, friends or just acquaintances. I get my guy
had known mike fur, maybe forty five years or so, and mike I guess had recently
befriended Kelly, I don't know how long I can tell you have been friends but Michael living with kelly and care,
For me, shit only met my dad a couple of times and that he seemed like a real nice guy, but
We met him a couple times in didn't know too much about and not be known endlessly. Shaven said you should look into marshpee, because
I know that murphy in and your dad we're friends, and I heard they had a big fight that morning
Someone said that my dad mercy at a big fight- and I like, oh who did you hear that bramin she said,
one of the lady that the trailer park when they went by my dad's trailer to check on him.
and when I asked that lady she said now,
I didn't say that someone else said that I never thought about. So someone said
my dad and working at the big fight, and we really could never get down those who actually said that that happen, and we found later that the problem by air talked him. Our seat finally directly shiva that never happened,
we focused on making Kelly a good bit, but they weren't the only people at the party that night finding.
that some of the others who were at that party has led to some concerns. Won't we ended up getting like a very vague list of names of people that were there
we know laughing and are hard to come by around. For some reason
A lot of first names and
to be maybe anywhere from twelve to fifteen people at the party and are a private investigator has talked to a few of the people
certainly not all of them. One of them
oh there is there
highly known for dealing
in fact mean at least a couple of the other.
all are known for dealing large quantities of marijuana, though you know, there's some deftly shady characters that were hanging out of that party. One thing that we do
no, is that richard had a cell phone with him. When he went missing, they were hope
and obtaining a cell phone records would help point them in a new direction, but those records only pointing back to this
place that we already know about getting, look
information on my dad's done has been a travel from day. One
So the sheriff apartment subpoenaed his phone records, we contacted them right. It was already five days pass the date
my dad had lackman seen a man by the time african confirmed him as a missing person a couple more david.
So really now we're looking at about a weak and they did subpoena Pena for some phone record. It took a few days finally got submitted
and all they can really give us was like a founder or thankfully, it wouldn't, like date and time stamp of incoming outgoing phone carbon tax.
And who you know who was from her who was sent to and they found a pink my dad,
phone initially that they tried to pick my dad on, but it was all so then they eventually subpoena has fallen records and the phone records were just like. I said some date and time stamp, based
they are incoming outgoing out going from causing tat. They never were able to retrieve any tower location information on where the his phone
during these phone often tat, we were told by the offer
and by the search and rescue coordinator, that power
emission location,
information, I guess, on a phone going toward for twenty. Forty suddenly
hours on the tower. And after that I don't know we were already,
so many days out, they said that it wasn't a possibility. Then we know we kept trying and we kept trying different avenues to try to get different answers after hard, nor a private investigator. They are familiar. I
with uncovering layers of top on it. For me,
and and he was saying that you know he had requested a certain way in certain wording in order for the cell phone company to give it to you and they just kept telling us it just wasn't a possibility. So eventually we stopped asking. But
When we listen to dinner, then goderan podcast, and we were able to determine just from a thing that looking your dad hawk about how
now he was able to get into your phone for the location services and we,
new, my dad in all, because my that wrote on everything. So when we were
his trailer. We thought the password for his google didn't think anything of it at the time and then weeks
go by and keep telling us they can't get up the information for the cell phone bill,
then to my dad gmail account and their well everything
see exactly where he was all day long. You could see. I mean
days back. You can see exactly right,
I was in so that when we didn't care about the tower information, because we have this infernal by looking
closer that we were able to determine that my dad phone stopped working when it was turned off died,
destroyed I dont now, but it stop picking up location information at six. Twenty three p m wednesday night before thanksgiving at his friend how the last phone call intact was
his friend like it was like three thirty in the afternoon and that with
and then my aunt actually called my dad at like six twenty six p m and it went straight to voicemail. So we see on the location information that my dad showed up at his friends house shortly after their last tat and then
his phone stopped working there three hours later and then you know three minutes later apparatus on died. My aunt tried calling him and went straight to voicemail anything.
for that it shows that it went straight away. Small and then you know on Google, it doesn't show up where my dad's on it at the last place it worked.
It was a disappointment when they learn that richards phone stopped working at the party and none of his last calls for text messages held any clues either. I'm gonna like we hadn't
if any assembly opened that we're, just like, oh my god, you're alive, but then quickly got shut down, because I didn't
It is anywhere you know what I mean. I mean it consolatory one during the day result.
I did and then we can see that there are other. Basically, though, with panic,
we had already heard re- was like okay to that place
then you are there and then
I think right and were at a disappointing that it wouldn t go,
somewhere after that right.
Nick have gone over this information time and time again trying to find some meaning or direction. Looking through google
has helped them identify some of richard's patterns of richard patterns, the enemy
day. You can go through Google rather dry. I could see what it is that kind of just as normal routine,
day in day out right. He was always home by like well over thirty for months, and months is on there right. We have like month and months worth of information of what his schedule looks like this. This is where he is and he back at home come dark. He's he's at home. If my doubts parliament dead and he left her friend's house. Like a thirty day,
and then I mean I just can't see him going anywhere but home, especially because of the time of night that he would have blah and then also because it my dad was going to go somewhere after
I think he was going to go, see your friend or something for him to not all. It would be someone that he would just stop by and see right because he didn't have a phone that was working. Obviously it was dead right. At that point, I just don't see my dad showing up to someone's house without calling them or collecting numbers
We know that richard had known this woman marcy for a long time. They were close enough that at one
wait? She planned to live with him after she was released from prison, but the management at grand
pass over nighters wouldn't allow that, because of that
if he was living at a local mall town lawyer
think that her dad would have just randomly stopped by to see someone without setting that at first, but she,
I consider the idea that he could have stopped by to see marcy you I would have thought about, or maybe he couldn't get stopped by the mattel there. Aren't you a thing,
maybe he could just drop by their. We do know she odin owed him about five hundred,
all my dad kept there really really good law them everywhere.
Him money he frequently
went money out through its bren. He just like this
People and you know he made notes of one. They made payments back to him and mercy had borrowed some money from him and the sergeant working the cave didn't make a phone call to mercy right off the bat to see if she had spoken,
amen. She said she hadn't talked to my dad in about a month and then we were able to see for my dad's records that marcy actually made a payment to him eight or ten days or something before he went missing.
I'm sure that payment within tat I can imagine she would mail and attract, though I had someone, they did see each other
So I'm not really sure why she would not honest about that, but we did consider the fact that maybe he could adjusts tropical motel. The fear
but the sergeant didn't seem to think anything. I barely talked worse. She said she hadn't seen him, though that's where they left that are our private investigator finally talked to her a couple of weeks ago, and-
her in her brother were careful about the situation and she said she met my dad and that she trying to get a hold of the month and giving may be sought by and she never hurt
I'm handling
that's all. We really know about that situation. You don't really know much more. Lurie received a tip about mercy,
allegedly on the monday after richard disappeared, Marcin, her brother were seen at a local bar breaking one hundred dollar bills. As far as we know,
Mercy isn't someone who had access to large amounts of money
was living out of a motel and working as a housekeeper.
makes you wonder why, all of a sudden she had a bunch of hundred dollar bills mars
also has a long criminal history, including identity theft and assault charges? One question that keeps coming up.
I, which reads phone power down at six. Twenty three p m on the evening of his disappearance do the battery,
phone just simply die. Was it turned off?
purpose or could his phone have been destroyed on the day that
it went missing. They record of all the places that he went to from his Google account. He did spend much of the day
doing things like shopping and going the physical therapy so
One hand it makes sense that the battery in his phone may have been low, causing his phone.
our down. While I was at the party,
On the other hand, they can also see that he stopped home for several hours before attending the party. You think that if his phone needed to be charged
he would have done it during those hours that he was home.
The information is. Google account has given them another place to look. We know that richard like to gamble.
and he treated at more like a business
were- you told me that he was very organised and kept track of everything in his trailer. They found record said he
which showed all of his winnings and losses with a net total for each month at the bottom
while looking over all the places that a stopped on the day of his disappearance, they could see that after his physical therapy appointment, he went to a place to gamble, because we just recently found by dad google information or location information. It never really occurred to us like think. Oh maybe we should go.
the bridge from this place. You know we know he was there that morning. Maybe there is a possibility that my dad one the money in these places, if you win anything over six hundred dollars, they'll put up a ticket.
That ticket you there has to be meld were turned into the lottery office where the cash it and anyone could cash. It oh, are about
You know, maybe the amounts of money that warning and how to take it on him. Maybe someone heard about that ticket that could have been motivation to do something we just
now so now that we know that he was there that morning were trying to see it. Maybe there is a possibility that we could get some camera footage, but we're looking at over two months now, and so I guess the chances of them having that are probably slim but say my dad wanna. Take it that morning, four hundred dollars for just say they can search
that location specifically, they can say. Okay, you can. Our investigator had talked to the op at the lottery office and said: hey. Can you tell us if there was any cash tickets from the place that day and they can search based on that information? So
we say hey, he was that mario gambling not morning. Can you tell me if anyone cast a ticket from the time that this time, so that the information that we could
We didn't even realise that he was at the plate. If anybody turned it in, then it will be
We know that a ticket from there from the tiger that were searching
or, as we know, when you were there, we should be all the flag that yeah.
Yeah just the possibility that richard could have one money gambling that day
It was also known to always carry and use cash. When my dad pay for everything with cash reading ever use of atm card like that or to pull out pash the last time he had a hymn cartridge. He did before he went missing, so he had a fair amount of cash in his bank. Account, though, you know that could be motive for someone to do something to him, but it would never.
It hasn't been tat. You re, but one thing, though, that you could have had a large amount of cash on quite possible that yet
We don't know that
able to obtain surveillance, footage from some local businesses, unfortunately,
none of them contain images of richard or his truck. They ve been helpful,
one way, though they have helped to confirm that richard didn't drive in certain directions. That night.
when will you went up few talk? What the
virgin errand to colonel your own,
instigating getting on my dad was right after he was missing that weaken after you
Well, you know what else do you? What what else can I do and I was like well, why don't we go talk to kelly and mike? You know, let's go talk to them and
we did we drove over. There
um, they didn't answer at the bigger property that have like a gate out in the front. So but like or not
on a door were basically thinning out by the gate and hoping they fear. You know, but in the route from my dad to his friends out, we did notice that there was a gas station
that had a camera there that looked like it could have a good view of the street.
and later the sergeant they could,
canada, and at that time we had hired a private investigator. So he said that he would talk to them
about getting information over to the private investor ere. It took about three weeks before we finally got the hard drive from the convenience store and what they included on. The hard drive was footage from a different occasion, not even though occasion that we had hoped to get put it.
They said that that camera, specifically, I guess, was either painted over or didn't have a good view the street, but the utter location that they found tat was footage from it. My dad words, you have been going home from his
tat. If he had made a right turn they get on the highway to maybe go entered the town and grant path, then that would have been captured on this footage, but that was never seen,
It appears that I'd I'd never at least thought on the freeway to go to her in the town,
other than that. We don't have any of the footage, but then one from one mentioned that there was a bank and one of the main intersection on his path home. So we
about bad in the garden when you talk to them eventually got us the information
The thing expired at that time, though than another week goes by and they were caught the information again and the footage was reviewed by air.
Private investigator and it's just to guard had they can't see anything. I guess this is like a bank
maybe not right on the street and so the footage, as I think from one of the atm and so being that it was so dark. You couldn't see anything from that distance
The sheriffs department also did a national search to check and see
Richard license plate had been scanned at any tollbooths. But again that was
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Another possibility that needs to be considered is what, if richard did make it home that night and something happened there we do
that there were no signs of a struggle in and around his trailer. We also know that the only existing evidence richard ever left the party is witness testimony. We have never confirms for ourselves that that I'd done last, I mean in an hour I, if he made at home from the dinner party. It seems to me that he would have thought the charges on the breed by and the fact that its own remains
dad or non working. It is me indicates that he never made it they're not like he packed up to go somewhere and he left his pills. He added like dust calendar and he always cross off every day, and you never cry
fact that one day and then you know never took his thursday morning till.
when you took him in the morning, he may never
it never looked like he made at home from there have, obviously we can't say for certain, but were not seeing anything. That leads us to believe that if richard did make it
after the party and something happened there? What are they?
and says that no one in the army park saw or heard a thing. It's not like
lived on an isolated property? I do think that the neighbors would have heard something because
we all kind of look out for one another too. It seems like you know there when we pulled up for the first time I mean often there's four or five neighbors there,
I mean instantly before we got we to bail out the cart, though,
Everyone is aware when someone comes in their communities,
if they were about filer at that point, but at the same time, like they all kind of look
for one another, and you know even one of unfettered. If you're down we're gonna leave, he would have only another piece of ever
it's. That might point away from the idea that something happened at richard's trailer is that he had cash inside that was left untouched by dad had a tape inside of his closet, and we found the key for the fake and there were five hundred dollars cash in there
We always have to consider the idea that a missing person may have just walked away from their life and decided to start over somewhere else. It's her.
to imagine. That would be the case with richard disappearance, because you didn't really
anything that he needed to get away from. He lived on his own, he was financially secure and we know that he was making plans for the few
sure, even the very next day he had plans to make thanksgiving dinner for friends. There's all
no evidence that he was planning to disappear. He had even mention what it
and do later that evening when he got home, they friend Kelly. She will, I hope,
well. She never said anything about this and she talked to her a private investigator a couple of times and then, like maybe on the third conversation or something she would
like oh yeah, I rich was leaving. He said to go, make the stuffing that night so that he didn't have to make it the next morning, though,
until that never happen yeah, I also further- you know needlessly that he didn't make it there. He had everything
to make dinner. Everything was sitting there all like ready to be made, and there is a turkey in the fridge right of the prophet, and you know cause that's kind of. The first thing you have to rule out is that well, did he just leave it's like now? He didn't just leave, go somewhere and take off definitely did not.
While looking into richards disappearance, they run into one familiar issue and that's people who don't really want to talk to law enforcement.
laurie mentioned earlier that some the people who were guest at the party were involved in the drug trade. It's hard to tell
aren't being forthcoming due to their own involvement in illegal activity or if they could see
he'll be involved in richards disappearance. You know, I think those allow
paranoia engine wrong. Even if you take my dad situation out of it, I think that people have a lot of paranoia just in the drugs like theirs.
the story of drug use and then history from manufacturing and failed. So that being said, I
sure that you they don't really want to deal with any one or they wanting. You know make sure that their situation is private as possible, but
then some forthcoming like come take away,
or let what what else can we do? Let me help you in any way we can lots of finger pointing or pregnant basket or wouldn't talk to murphy murphy, then
the thing about her brother said Otto. You should go talk to my two minor uses, him for money,
All the time and MIKE had the truck that's broken down- that's just like richard than if he did something
turn it may be, because we wanted to court first track when we first showed up there. It is
that everyone that we spoke to
They all immediately were like pointing that. Somebody like something happened to them
nobody. It didn't seem like anybody would like all, maybe drove off the road
everyone's life up this person there-
you have to talk to this person and that person like you should have talked to that person, and
we'd, never a lot of help or my dad.
And, and he said, oh, they were good, buddies and and- and it does look like on his phone records that him and mike talk all the time and lots of text messages and phone calls between the two of them
so unequally. They were friends and there were fairly close.
Dont know why so many days would go by and MIKE wouldn't think to call the police say
You know my friend then having been over the whole of europe
I don't know that's what I would you and my mind if my friend wouldn't it.
As you know, or I had
time reaching my friend for several days. That's what I would do, but I guess I can expect everyone to think. Like me
Beyond searching the roads that richard would have taken to get home
have been no organise searches to find him.
You ve heard in other cases. Until then,
have evidence pointing to a specific area. They don't even have a place to begin searching will be met with a certain weapon coordinator array of ironing, and they thought
your faith in person, basically that they need starting location and again the friend how, because they reported that you seen leaving.
A car, so they say about point with laughing in a vehicle which then
give him a range of whatever the equal ranges and so that they can extend the resources to to launch a search until they have a more open, pointed location, studied location, and I asked them. As you know, I can't wait
why can't you maybe happens on those with sniffing around the property and they said that they would need a search warrant too.
that, and I'm like, oh, why can't you get one? We know that's where human balked and they said that they don't have enough probable cause for that. Kelly made it abundantly clear to our private investigator that
That she will not be allowing the police onto her property without a search warrant, so I'm new at this point, but neither of us are-
In that spirit, I believe the police. Nobody been inside this just off acreage. They feel like it with an acre ugly. We can't go in there.
I've, never asked her, and I don't know if the private investigator just came out and asked if we could go search, but she did make a statement right off the bat that she, if the police want to come search, they'll need to bring a warrant. So.
and now she's not being cooperative at all like now, she's she's older, our private investigators. Yesterday that
she's not talking anymore, and you know what did the police now she kept asking? What did the police know and they found his truck, and you know she's like well
nine and I bought what the police know. I'm sure she's, not
be with us any more. I guess maybe were poking around for much, I don't know, but she doesnt oppression.
Eight as being around any longer, so she may occur that she's not gonna, be helpful format.
and search and rescue, we had a meeting with them last summer up there and they told us basically straight to our faces like like until we find a.
his car without him in it there's not much else. They can do for you. What they told us
We are very much said that this is how court cases go when richard for
went missing. Lorry was utilizing social media to see if anyone had seen him
she shared as information on some local community pages and a woman contacted her with some information about the truck the money Lee contacted me thing. They thought that they thought this green toyota tacoma track on the side of the road. Deep back in these roads,
and she was like you know it looked like it had been parked there for a little while, so I'm going to go, take a look cause. You know I it could have been your dad's truck, and so she actually went-
and looked, but it wasn't there anymore so also kind of interesting. I guess
we probably would nothing by. But yet I definitely spark some interest in other people
being there I out and really that's what it's all going come down. I think it is coming
any help, and then
someone maybe hearing something you now, though them the more. We can get it out there. The better actually haven't gotten that much attention, but they did it. He was officially.
saying it's hard, isn't really a press release and not got put out to the news station, but I think a couple of different news stations quickly mentioned the
I did notice one of them online, and so I instantly shared it, and then it got like over two hundred shares after that, which was amazing. You know, but like that's the only way, I feel like it's getting out there, because, besides the article in the news station that first week and not much else and then publicized.
after a local newspaper, released an article about richard disappearance, a woman called in with a tipp. It could be nothing,
could point in a totally new direction. Grant tat paper. Did it
story on my dad after him being missing. I think, almost a month at that time, in the art of, could it a tip
and for our private investigator, and they did get attempt.
I'm a lady up there that in a I think, in the merlin area near my dad's house, I'm that said that my dad had stopped by she thinks
couple of days or a day or two before thanksgiving with a couple of hispanic mail that we're looking at a car she had parked out on the street,
for sale, and she said she remembered might add my fasten. She was certainly with him. She is
we ve been older, lady and she didn't tell super comfor being there by herself
with these three unknown man. He said, but my dad one after her report
however, while the guy's checked out the car for sale,
very friendly and made her thought, ease and
You know we never did find out who these has any males were
I have no idea in asking people might have you had any hispanic fun doing things
only about. So we can pretty much account for
all of the phone numbers on my dad hall and text loud
wasn't really any unknown and the unknown sergeant called, and we got those kinda sorted out right off the bat though there were,
Never any any followers on twitter
didn't know that I could maybe a fancy what these two men fire
romania who they are and then we have no idea what it actually occurred
I don't know how important that information is, but a private investigator the talkative,
the again- and she said you know what one
his son was here, and I guess he was there for the holiday, and so she was going to try to talk to the fun. But you haven't heard back from him yet about when he was actually there
maybe get a better idea on the timeline. If that was richard, why we
be looking at buying a car with these two other men. No one knows who these guys could possibly be it
the interesting to find out if richard could have some other friends, possibly these two men who
oh and is currently aware of that. Could open the door to many other possibilities.
Lorries aunt remembered an interesting detail from a conversation that she had with richard before he disappeared ad hoc, my dad, I think, you're a kid denying.
The day before he went missing and sheep. I bet he would come at that because he paid someone
You can do some work at his trailer,
They never showed. My downloads
for lending out money to his friend in other long period of time, that my dad was honey,
up for money and he was struggling to get by and he got a lot of help from his friends. So he think he was kind of returning that favor. You know. Maybe he was painting someone
time do some work on his trailer while his shoulder when injured and whoever display
Why did we don't know like she did pay someone to do some work and they didn't show up, and I and said he was pretty pissed off and that he said he was going to get his money back from the
You don't really know who that is. I know that I'm mercedes brother would occasionally do some work.
I watchman that's trailer ends like that. He would help him because he needed money for my dad
can you give em, maybe some our job to do, but speaking with mercury from father, I got her private and that's ear. Couldn't determine that it was him
This conversation that richard had with his sister does make you wonder if he could have stopped to collect money from the person who didn't show up to do the repairs.
Just another one of the many open ended possibilities in this case. When you look at all the
front theories of what may happen richard, there's always a chance at this.
would all be an accident. But the fact that is true,
hasn't turned up and it was such a short distance to get home laurie
doesn't believe that that's likely at this point, we have a hard time, believing that my dad drove off the road somewhere,
you know I without being found now a man in his truck, you know, don't you disappear unless someone wants them to so we don't have
some strong belief that my dad
still alive. Of course, we hope that he is, but at this point
probably safe. To say
but he is not alive and also probably safe to say that somebody probably did something to them.
Another very is that richard could have just decided to drive out into the woods somewhere we
This doesn't necessarily fit in with what we know about him and how he didn't like driving after dark. It also
doesn't fit in with the notion that we plan to go home and get a head start on some of his thanksgiving cooking
The thing is that he just randomly
drove up and went out.
Into the woods somewhere I mean it is heavily wooded area and if he went and knowing that a thorough, as he did
it be really random love he just drove from there
I decided, oh I'm gonna, go for a drive up a dirt road somewhere and at night the unfortunately, no, if you search and rescue the sheriff's department, then things the cattle
they want to go with it just immediately, while he could, just because it is driven off the road,
go somewhere and got stuck into got cold in here. Like war come on, I mean about the living here, for you now allow.
Time is rather less road between his friends happen here
I don't know how many times in the out
unknown random area, and it would be just so unlike him to just to not just go home
and it happened to be a home. Maybe he couldn't.
accidentally had some of that, something that would place would tie
You know. Maybe he got with france and on his drive home, but it's just not a long enough drive and there's just not enough places than that short deadline.
For my dad who have gone and not have been found by now. It just doesn't make any sense to me:
a guy. He could have been disoriented, but not
to find his way home or at least to a place with other vehicle older, you known,
people around it just doesn't just doesn't add up it. Just exam.
Another theory that lorry mentioned to me is what, if richard could have had some kind of medical emergency, or one of my dad had eight some of that stopping and he had something
I'll be back. You know he was a larger guy. He was pre. Diabetic had high blood pressure. Maybe he could have had some sort of like funding has or a stroke or I don't know,
God knows what, and maybe that just sent him over the earth eating from about. I can imagine what, but maybe having eating
at a ball could have caused such an event and they freaked out and then no one
To do so. Maybe they never even did anything my bad and there is a possibility that something happens, my dad, but they didn't know what to do. I don't know, maybe that's what it maybe he needed help a maiden provided, I don't know,
that they have no direct evidence, tying riches disappearance to any of his friends. So what if he became,
victim of a random crime on his way home from the party that evening. But the possibility of like minded
just driving home in maybe at a stop fenner satellite someone attack
then you know and them or something you know and lonely mentioned.
Can a virgin. He didn't you couldn't say for sure, but he said crimes like that. Don't really happened around here, because people carry gun and
It's just a common thing up there that the world that they live in up there. You know and though, for that to happen, is unlikely. The lack of law enforcement of their people probably just take care of things themselves. I mean they couldn't even respond.
In that case, because it was after hours right like to go to the welfare check. The sheriff's department couldn't even go to the after hours. So that's why we call we're going to the police. I have since asked, because the shire sheriff's department, pretty much said they're so short staffed that he
It was that I, like he didn't, suggest the private immature, but when we suggested he was like, oh, I think that's a good idea. You know I'm thinking out of the box because he had mentioned several times.
Some have the manpower and the resources to be doing a thing
I mean they had major lay, often like two thousand and and so now the department is still recovering from it. The amount of different possibilities in this case has been a source of frustration for both lorry and neck when they speak to the people from the party, they point the finger at mercy,
when they speak to mercy, she points the finger back to those who are at the party with the lack of concrete
evidence pointing to one of the many scenarios. It's been very difficult, we don't know
with the story really is always have a happy ending though we don't know,
and so all we have are just a bunch of different ideas and trying to investigate different things in a different way, an unclear
leading us. Nowhere, we likely TAT way.
who that my dad you know like, of course he did, but I mean we can,
I don't even know I mean yeah, there's a possibility. Maybe he made it to his trailer and then left and went somewhere after that? I don't think that's likely, but you know you're going to see the girlfriend or ex local and or someone else
don't even know about right. I mean my dad. I gotta have fun
that wall independent of each other, like he didn't, have like a large group of friends. He had a friend here and a friend there and a friend there they want all
didn't all coming with one another. So in talking to some other friends like they don't know much about you know MIKE were
might doesn't know much about it. Other friends over there you know- and he didn't have a significant other,
new day in and day out. What was going on it just makes it hard the congo,
evidence that we do know is that on the day of richard disappearance, he spent much of the day.
out and about he went to his physical therapy appointment.
It a little gambling and some shopping after that he went
for a few hours and went to a friend's giving party and that's where his phone stopped working at six. Twenty three p m, the friends have said
that he left and drove him the direction that he would have gone to drive home. No one has reported seeing him since, and he was now
seen on any surveillance. Videos that have been looked at his trailer appears to have gone untouched
No one can be certain that he didn't make it back, but it doesn't appear that he did
he plans to start as thanksgiving cooking that evening and had invited friends over for thanksgiving dinner the following day right now
The investigation has started to star they ve run out of leads to look into lorry has asked if the case could be turned over to the state police.
but she was told no because there's no sign of foul play at this point. There worried that restricts case is just going to go cold.
I use keeping the story allied, which is why we want
to do this and kindly we listen, do several here captain
yeah the more people that know and the more we keep it in the story alive? So that doesn't just get forgotten that maybe we'll find something, because he knows that they say that justin county sheriff
upon the resources? We have limited resources too. We really just me
how in the more people that we got you in a more people that we can keep
You know why we keep a single end of it. Just gets forgotten, maybe hopefully we can at least
The resolution is that's what I think is
it's killing, laura and the mouth
don't know super frustrated.
So what happened of richard hillman on the evening of november? Twenty second two thousand seventeen the possibility,
seem endless with not much evidence to support any of them. We do know that he was known it
harry cash on him was he target
because someone new that are his friend
being elusive because of their own involvement in criminal activity, or do they know more or is this
some kind of accident that has yet to be discovered. Richards case is so baffling. How does someone in their truck completely vanish?
just driving a few miles home from a friends house. If you have any
information about the disappearance of richard hillman. You can call the joke,
having county sheriffs department at five for one for seven four five one, two three, the private investigator, has created a tip line and that number is five for one for one for six: six, eight five. If you'd like to follow this case on facebook, leave, a group called the search for richard hillman at the time of richard disappearance,
he was described as six feet tall two hundred and fifty pounds with brown eyes and brown and gray hair.
also missing is richard start green. Ninety. Ninety seven toy it s our five with organ license, plate v, w t three six one. That brings us to the end,
episode, one hundred and twelve I'd like to think laurie.
Nick for taking the time to speak with me if you
Try to reach me I'm on facebook, where there is a page and a discussion group, I'm on twitter at the vanish pod and on instagram
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Thanks for this.
it is a lot of people out there that don't want you looking around. They don't want people around out there, a lot of excited the borders or town
what an area and so much to run around
I mean from part, had left a heroine unfortunate. How rampant
It is apparent, though, there's a lot of, I think, paranoid people and people that certainly don't
you. People around
innovating up there. You do now
the back your mind that
You know where you are and then put the eerie feeling of richard.
You know and the thought in your mind that he didn't he's gone like we. We don't know what happened so the
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