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Randy Leach

2019-10-07

17-year-old Randy Leach left his home in Linwood, Kansas on April 15, 1988. He planned to run some errands and then ended up at an early graduation party for a classmate. Witnesses remember Randy being at the party, but aren’t exactly sure when he left. Sometime after midnight, a friend planned to drive Randy home. The friend left to drive another friend home first but told Randy he would be back. When his friend returned, both Randy and the grey 1985 Dodge 600 sedan he was driving were gone. Randy and the Dodge 600 were never seen again. Over the past 31 years, there have been many rumors about what happened to Randy but his family has been left with more questions than answers.

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Hey prime numbers. You can listen to the vanished ad free on amazon music download. The app today the. I went to the house and Harold went out. They had a bonfire out We're supposed to have a lot of people are, but they had totally clean up the mess, and they had a big bonfire for they were burning venture stuff. And I went in the house- and I told the lady at which I had never met her before they had just moved out there the past year So we didn't really know them. She's, the one that given the party for doktor she said What can I do for you, and I said I want my son. He was here and he didn't come home.
And she said, missus late, coming, inaugurate your beer, I said ma'am, I dont want beer, I'm on my son and she said well, he was here, but he laughed and I dunno she told us one or the other took him. Home arab went out to the bonfire and talked around the top to the daughter that had the party was four and she said that he didn't know she knew randy was there, but he said she just seemed awfully upset. The week came back and talked to some kids along the road. We went in where one of the boys have been at the party. They told us that they thought randy had taken some other kids home. So we went to that house and it will just back and forth, and then we had. We come back home and we had people coming in here from all over friends and family. and about seven will echo, which were the party was and they were the area discolour collect
nightmare. Seventeen year old, randy leech left his home in linwood, kansas on April fifteen nineteen. Eighty eight. We plan to run some errands and then he was going to attend an early graduation party for a classmate, witnesses, remember him being at the party, but aren't actually sure when he left witness. Statements vary, but some point after midnight, randy and the car he was driving were no longer at the party. Randy never made at home that night and both he and the car had never been seen again unresolved and from wondering this is episode. One hundred and ninety four of the vanished randy leeches story. the and
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leech was finishing up his senior year of high school in linwood, kansas where he had lived his whole life here, the only child of Harold and albert a leech and by all accounts, a good kid who did well in school and helped his parents with the housework we to herald and Alberta for this story and the is how they remember randy. He was weeks early. He was only about four pounds that heated the growing very fast he was. Just a little boy loved all his vegetables and fruits and everything that we fed him and he grew fast. We were living in the little town of little word when he was born when you got it, three years old, he liked to watch the kids go to school. We were just down the street from the sky, And he just wanted arrived, the best so bad, but when he got the kindergartner he went to his first year, kindergarten inland. Would he
it's right there that we move. after the country that your next year and he got to write the birth, which was really a highlight till he got the little older and then really care for it, but he was well adjusted. He france that he did a lot of stuff on it all. He led the page. Get a pond. He left the face she loved to work with me the flowers just about anything sorry. He enjoyed to get into He helped in the shop he led them. grass at five years old. He was on the lawn more dead. Holding we had a little place to go in. And he told me tat when you get right up there. You turn the peter randy word, then he learned to drive the tractor It was kind of a shock when I first flipped out and there he was driving the drag. Rather, oh, my goodness that when I saw him-
I didn't he had paid attention what he's dead and telling he had a lot of cousins that amount they go fishing and play ball and he was just a well adjusted little fella. We enjoyed him and had birthday parties every year with these cousins It was a delight for his grandparents and his cousins and all of us to be here he was the type that if he came home came in the room and green so anybody was here. He always graded. He didn't know a stranger. He wanted to know that, They were all here. He didn't anybody here, but we had a lot of We think cards with he enjoyed sitting in watching us play cards or in the meantime watching tv when this was in school. He didn't
lay bring to many lessons home and if he did, he would be sitting in the living room. Doing is less as watching tv. an harold would get on him and say randy. How can you do that he's? Always? Ok, he got by. He got oh good grades that he at one point here. faltered, love it and I think he got to seize and and told him. I think he was twelve years old. Dad told him he's a brandy. If you can bring home three days I'll. Give you a fifty that real, so he did I think brought always great garden. He had always. I got picture of him with his fifty dollar bill. He was so proud, not really great. Throughout his whole years, when he's then the high school. dead row. Well, he play for SK. He he was in track. He went on stephen basketball, but he was there if they needed him, but in truth He was a pretty good. He did the year started
he shot. He threw it one third and one edge. You wouldn't have to beat the record, it would the record that his dad when he was school. Guy was in class with Harold and it was he was the record an if randy could have played his last start tat. He would have broke the record, he said that he he disappeared, before that, so he didn't get to break the record but he was in the last year of high school other than that He was just too happy young man. It got along with about everybody, he hadn't enemies that we knew of a lot of people after he was gone, talked about it there, it was and get the data, Andy disappeared, seem like any other ordinary day for the leech family, his mom, Alberta was making a wedding cake and hair in randy were working outside Albert
They told us what she remembers from that day. Activities It went lords picture a brand new john they're lawnmower there They wanted, We gotta find because you ve got a mole grass that summer time some money he went that afternoon right after you got a new one and mow the little lady shard about a mile and a half from our house and he come home brought it home in cleaned it all up. He will he mode. Aren't too that afternoon, then he showered in and was gonna. And let alone who's. Gonna save his cousin was home they were gonna go to lawrence. He thought he wanted. Yet some there. It was called the last wax he want to put on the tractor to keep it nice. How to get there were twenty dollar bill. I believe I think he had thirty or forty dollars with him, but he gave him a twenty dollar bill to buy the glass flax and hemp. last year, in my car. I had cleaned at all, that day
He went a little wood the he evidently the cousin wasn't home. He was in Kansas city help in his grandmother and serenity just drove around Linwood and ended up at this party, which he knew there was a graduation party, but he didn't know for sure. If he was going to go or not but the way we had friends in that evening for dinner, and then we play cards and it was connally. Oh, then a wedding cake I did creating cakes and that's about what I remember about the day We were able to obtain about fifteen hundred pages of randy's case file, not from the police but from someone who said it was leaked to them many years ago reading through that. It appears that randy had made several stops that evening his parents said he went to get wax for his lawnmower. He stopped his cousins rand
and a friend drove to a body shop because his parents had gotten him a nineteen sixty six ford mustang as a graduation gift and it was they are being restored. Randy stetz. At a gas station where we purchase some candy soda and gas it's after this time that he made his way to the graduation party. that evening Alberta had no idea that their lives were about to be changed forever, randy it headed out, like you would have done any other friday evening excited for school to be over and for it to be summer. He was forward to getting his dream car once it was restored. Relaxing and earning some extra money mowing lawns when randy wasn't home the next morning when his parents woke up, they knew Something was wrong here, like when I would see him come in the driveway, his lights, with shining like either window that I guess I just
went to sleep tat night. In the wake of that, I woke up the next morning, at by thirty come in the kitchen and looked out in the car. Wasn't there in a way do Where did it come alone that we both ended up? the driveway barefoot. looking around. What are we gonna do We it really so they never did that before, though We called my brother he lifted in lawrence. He was a placement and lords and he rushed right down. My brother went over. where the party was he come back And then Harold and I went over about eight thirty- I went to the Its inherent went out. They had a birth are out. There to have a lot of people are, but they had totally clean up the mess. and they had a big burn, for they were burning. Adventure stuff and I went in the house, and I told the lady at which I had never met her before they had just moved out there. The past year,
so we didn't really know them. But she's alone, that given the party for the other she said what he. What can I do for you and I said I want my son. He was here and didn't come home and she said missus late coming and I'll get your beer. My said ma, I don't want a beer. About my son, and she said well, he was here, but he laughed and I don't know she told us one or the other took him home. Harem went out to the wrong there. Roundly talk to the daughter the party was for and she said He didn't know she knew randy was there, but he said She just seemed awfully upset. the we came back and talk to them kids along the road we women were one of the boys been at the party. They told us that they thought randy had taken some other kids home, so we went to their house and images backup
worth, and then we had. We come back home and we had people coming in here from all over friends and family and a bunch of them went back over to where the party was and they were. The area it was it's kind, there, and we did call the place until Sunday night. We couldn't report it until the next day we put to live more police officers on Sunday night? They made a report, so after that it was just there Dana nightly had people here, and so we are in the morning People go on calling tell him different things, and the time they would call us we would call leavenworth and give them reports of what they called untold, listen, hopefully with everything they would check it out, was days in tonight's upper air was until nightmare as investigation into randy's disappearance unfolded police.
And Randy's family. Looked at the parents that hosted the graduation party rain. His parents, wanted them to take a polygraph and have their homes searched the police. Had other ideas. Why We feel a lot. She knows something errol cap are granted. take her and the detector tested. Well, the woman was pregnant at the time. I think she had four or five other kids and she pregnant at the time- and I guess They didn't want to upset her. The herald, told them to give her and do I detect your guest on her and the detective Kip and were hurl we catch. Can't get a baby. Sitter hurts and all baby sit for. You take her and get her light detector test, but no they never did, but finally, they go to the house the only thing you do it another county Another county was gonna. Do the lightest actor test? Honor and she refused on it
in our candidate was ill wind, accounting next to them ass. They knew something was wrong. They knew this place if a member state was helping harold and ass china that deal with this, we didn't like it company and on there, section? I guess we care one way or the other. We just want to find our said at that time. They said it was just a missing boy. The whole thing ditch didn, turning out right because there, early on aids, tell us that it wasn't so we would find that the headman jack, just they wouldn t, do They stay Harold and Alberta feel like the police. Investigation was hindered from the start. he passed on information to the police that they were getting, but no one ever confirmed if these leads were checked, like
said we were calling them every five minutes, because people was coming here, telling him stories and calling us. I don't know why they were car leavenworth that we found out later. Why? Because half the time we know when we call them. They did not check into anything within two weeks. We just knew they were anything that we They should be doing, as course, funding our son, that we heard to private at this. The kgb I supposedly came in on our case. We thought help us found out later, they were investigating our investigators, because One of the guys the main one we hired was from Kansas, but he had a helper from Zuri and they were check him out to make sure he was legal, so spend all at time. They supposedly went down to school and made a big deal. They were the course it was a big deal for these kids call me in to the office
each one and talk term and pretty much what you at the port Did you see rarely what shape was again and that was about it. The kids this later alive things that place didn't question about, you know like they stood, we we thought they shed the kids, a pretty upset that a lot of them told a story said we'd have em over here to the house and every time they would tell us something different and we call an worth to tell em and nothing to our knowledge was ever done. I mean, if you tell the truth, first time. I think you're gonna tell it the second time. there were so many different stories going round and rumours- and I know it hard for the place. When there's that stuff or number to our knowledge, but we thought they weren't doing any. They weren't checking on anything Harold, was on him all the time about. Do this. Do that he one than that with the lady, the gate, the party, because she was selling drinks
alcohol drinks for three dollars a glass and too, Rage. Kids, Harold, with the county attorney to get a hold of do something she was selling greece to these kids. He put kept putney, Martha The statute of limitations had run out, so we can do anything with her Five and a half weeks before they ever went over and check the house miranda was last seen. the Do you want to lose weight? What if You could lose an average of fifteen percent of your body weight and keep it off, because at row losing an average of fifteen percent of your body. Weight is possible from starting weight of two hundred pounds. You could lose as much as thirty pounds a year go to dot co slush lower completed
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We know from reading randy's file that the police made an effort to speak to the people who had been at the party that night the problem was that the number of people who were there has been estimated to have been as little as forty over a hundred depending on who they asked apparently some people from Kansas city had shown up uninvited, people who knew randy had all mentioned, seeing him at various times that evening some spoke to him and others witnessed him at the fire or in the garage When ever saw him leave, though the Goers told the police that came, the young woman hosting the party was selling. Spiked punch for three dollars a glass, but that- to the teens had brought her own beer to the party, there were rumours that there were some drugs there too, but nothing concrete could be established. One of randy's friends was going to give him a ride, but left to quickly drop some one else off before returning for randy. When he got back,
the party, both brandy and his car, were gone we began to surface that randy had run away, but the police were never able to confirm any sightings randy after party back in april of nineteen. Eighty eight five years into the search for randy local news outlets started to pick up on the story around. this time. Someone unknown to randy's parents had begun leaving police reports and their mailbox in For me, we had a guy call us. He had seen it article, isn't the kan paper think it the five years that they do the story He was from over in part and he wanted to talk to us. So he did we found out right away. He had to have something to do with law enforcement cause. He was pretty sharp to look at police reports
We had had a lot of place. Reports left in our mailbox and in our door. so that let us know somebody wanted us to look into this war, because there wasn't anything going on in leavenworth. He would look at those reports and no, that they then in investigating, but He was here from April until july of ninety three he was here night and day sundays level. I've got a little nervous as what he was doing here. We would see a car, please car parked on the back road sitting. Back there and at one point this guy would at his car n and at the end to argue at the against it, so they could see the tag member and we had a police officer drive in here one morning and I was supposed to be working, but I was off that day. I can
up and he was part they're getting out of the car going to that this guy. car to see what the tag was an eye. What are you doing and he said? Oh, I didn't realize you was home and I said well, I am, and you get out of here- so he did, he got in his took off. But right after that, the sheriff appointed a gal dave and sent her down here and we found out later to find out what we were doing that She was right, along with this guy, realizing that things work being like this should be done though she ended up and threw talking to the county attorney. Well. I guess it was the under county. Turning the second level The main one was out for the weekend and she talked the other. One here showed her that she had probable rights to arrest these three guys,
and they arrested him on a saturday and sunday morning, the next morning they release them. But after that thing just went down hill, the sheriff we paid a lot of money and a lot of advertising to get campbell. And get her night and there herman, I gotta, let it I dont think was just from us the people was wanting a change and he assured us that if he got in, he would look into this. He didn't guarantee would solve it, but he would put. But on the job more than one. had been there. Well, he got in there and right off the bat he backed He was gonna really get in the investigating that in the early months of ninety three weeks acted unsolved mysteries out of foreign. Yet one of them- The guy's came back here with the secretary just before it. Ah here, though, the share call him, I want to talk to herald when Harold
to him. He said here we need to get together and get our ducks in a row. And hurl said I'm gonna tell him like it is. and he said I want to find out what happened- arson well, the unsolved mysteries came in one day and spent about four hours with us, and we had several other kids here that had been the party and they talk to them and all and then eleven leavenworth the hurdy more problem, Harold to call and so mysteries cause. They were gonna, come back here and talk to us, and they never did that they need. We'll call back or talk to him on the phone he couldn't get hold of them. That later We found out that somebody had given them a a picture of a boy in their national geographic magazine that look I rarely and in a way he was sitting on a park bench and Levin were said that they thought that was randy, so they then do any more on unsolved. Mystery is saved, put it off for a while till they checked it out, though, that was No that story,
It didn't look like randy at all. At many, let them off the hook with And saw mysteries, though that took here well, then we went through the with the resting, the boys and they were released and find out here. I was trying to get a hold of the sheriff and talk to him and at one point, the detector was up in leavenworth with this guy. That was trying to help us the sheriff told her get him out of that car and don't let em in the caribbean and that they threaten to arrest the guy that was trying to help us, for it impeding an investigation and the guy was only trying to help us in this was still just a missing boy. First, read by the lack of information being shared by the leavenworth police, Harold and Alberta wanted other agencies to come in and work. The case we didn't know for sure whether the can be I was in on it or not entirely.
They said they were able. I told us leavenworth county or this happen come in on it. Unless they ask I dont know what they're so we're not one. I won't tell us one thing: it in some way. Also tell us another thing so can a hard to find out. There it's a deal Several weeks into debt, this boy had he been held in Gaza they used hears picker too carry around things in it use down the road from us. Actually, there was a boy They said that had the drugs in all kinds of rogues, step four satanic thanks we tried to get there, check him out never did, and we gotta another investigators help this,
we even got dive it went in to a lake. It checks because there was a jacket. Anything on that all lay down was now the river check the few eggs. I don't think that was done very good, so It just color made things worse and then they said to us I told him they had been got up that they want. He said they won over end this biased Military down in the ravine and said. That's why you're here they were well where she was Mr dell, Alba They want to learn. Spin. Days. Looking look over and it was about eighty acres probably altogether, Finally, the english
we had already told them. I knew the guy that had been raised up from her. The by over there, and he said there is no caves in there and he had heard it new everything over there when they caves that It is that There is loring caves, over a year now about to from this place, They never once won over. Check the those case. One detect the police chiefs. There edward jail, went over. to this cave, they discovered what this she had had described. There was little file or fires in a circle where they use that step in markings
we get pictures. Was taken over there, It was all done, and then these two chief detective went over in two back to their a guy from tennessee that was back to in seminars on this kind of thing They got here. since he is closer I got him two other guides revolt. Well, Ikeda, don't know. Stuff all the. While I was yet million to go out. Leavenworth, under sheriff detective canal, in random off and neighbors. You gonna leave it. He said If you don't leave will arise you and take you out at least you should call all around me- and I would not this
stem further. Well, this is What do you want here? Then they said they had checked the cave leah tragedy. I from leavenworth come out the papers said they had checked. Decay two days couldn't find anything. We then That was a lie. in one of the guys it was in there and he said That was a lie. He said the only candidate was out. There was two hours, nay said Had it well These caves are huge. It would take. All day at least justin, walk through a around tried to get him to do something. They wouldn't Thirty years after randy disappeared, parents still haven't gotten. Any answers were the people.
Still working in active investigation, were they try, and a cover up, an investigation that never really started or power simply one that had gone off the rails records. We had access to were only from the first five years of an investigation that has spanned decades. We made more. all attempts to speak with law enforcement officials from leavenworth county and the catch. The eye were told that they didn't want to comment in the nineteen eightys, the united states was experiencing what would later be known as satanic panic. I've been many rumours that randy was sacrificed in some sort of say ten, a ritual There is very little evidence to support that the allegations made ever actually occurred But the myth has surrounded brandy, leeches disappearance from the very beginning. At the time He went missing. There were several local kids that supposedly practiced satanic rituals. Again
there is nothing to establish these acts ever took place but the whole idea of satanism being related to randy's disappearance makes for an interesting plot. West, reading through randy's case file. You can see these rumours creeping up from the very beginning of the investigation store. He began to circulate that randy had been sacrificed and they ranged from rumours that he was taken from the party to another bonfire where he was sacrificed, along with two other men in front of dozens of people other stories included, randy being sacrificed in a cave as part of a satanic ritual things. I put classmates on the police. Radar were fully dungeons and dragons and liking heavy metal music one. this from the graduation party even claim to have heard render yell. I will not be sacrificed as you standing near the bonfire that night.
Investigators began asking witnesses if Randy played dungeons and dragons, which no, reported that he had and then they asked them who did This is when a name came upon their radar. His name was Robbie marble his car wait till police at robbie and a friend kelly played dungeons and dragons and that they were real heavy metal rockers the police. Question robbie, who had been at the party that night with two their friends, kelly and sky he told them tat. He had seen randy at the party near the fire. Story seem to line up with what other witnesses had said. The police, searched rabbies car and confiscated a dungeons and dragons book along with two knives wellbeing. questioned, Robbie admitted that he had read the satanic bible but said that I don't believe in the concepts of the occult. When asked
He believed in god he said now that he considers himself to be agnostic Their classmate told police that he had encountered robbie in walmart parking lot in rome. pull the knife out of his car and said this is what was used to sacrifice randy. This kind meet believed robbie was suspicious because he had died as hair black and was into heavy metal music. We wanted how to robert marble for this story, the police, focused a good bit of attention on him early on in the investigation, rob told us what he remembers about randy. you know a brandy ni, we you know, went to school from kindergarten senior year we weren't bodies, we didn't hang out. We want enemies, but in a way it is a small town stated in austrian across cross each other. Radically randy was one of the more intelligent people in our class he displayed
from an early age he was not confrontational didn, grew with anybody good, natured poor. Why you a well mannered promising a few more ads as we go along that guy was at the time make enemies in high school well. He was I for we on the fastball, but it's quite yeah I think was fast and er. Remember correctly, I believe, is also an track as well will work more of that time and the age you know late eighties, a small backward Community population in the city itself was approximately three hundred and fifty a graduating class head. five people in It- and that was the largest class ever come through the school.
while speaking with robert, he told us what the small town of Linwood Kansas was like back in nineteen. Eighty, eight was not a lot here do around there? Wasn't even a grocery store, yeah there was, like a small convenience, store, a tavern just not a lot there, the people were rather insular nature. Sir I've gone gossip here either that internet or cellphones gas can get around at the speed of light their lot. Farmers and staff in the area of their a green house there in a group plants and staff that employed few people, handful of small did Mrs convenience store in the majority of the people. I believe you know
in the surrounding areas, innovator, commuted to Kansas city, metro area or the warrants after randy disappeared. Rumours began to surface about robert and his involvement in satanic rituals and possibly randy sudden disappearance. Here's raw on how those rumours evolved well for many years I had no idea, but in two thousand and ten and I was able to get hold of some leah case files and is able to track the source of it another. ass may mate, mine and randy's guy named Derek mccall m. I believe on either the through to the fourth day after his disappearance.
Either Derek or a family member in his contacted the web, more sheriffs department basically made false accusations of satanic call bull shit, myself and kelly pal, who I went to the party, were the three of us, Charlie, pal scotsmen, myself, Derek just cannon start point much stuff out of glass. Basically say anything were in sight, man that we get something randy various outlandish ideas. That was the first step in the process. The second step was that You know it's obviously a ludicrous series of statements, but in out expect any law enforcement personnel to do their duty origins in vat that story out and anybody here if you're I q is great,
then the square root of your shoe size. You should build investigate that vat. and will, without within a week or two Fortunately, the lab moors shares department was in tat about doing that. For summary, then, and they actually turn about it- requires sinker. They pursued that asked one of the main thrust of investigation could for several years from I've been able to piece together just by real review in their case, files is day, and I dont know if they did this. Intentionally or if it was just through sharing competence, but their method of questioning people. You can see several reports about when the queen.
in the hope that, with party nothing, nothing really comes up. Nothing stand that nobody makes any outlines claims about, say, tat coal, to ritual sacrifice except from a poem, but their dozens of reports preceding that now wants them. A column report comes in and reading subsequent reports. You see that the detective quest in people specifically stating dear. You know anything about rob marble, kelly, pallor, scots smith. being involved in the same town called their exact question some people may win our name. The course of the first in several people now that I've ever heard anything about that. Now you can. use your imagination a little bit here but in the town would I have described to you- the thrives on Gaza has no entertain: no cable, no cell phones, it's pretty
obvious knowing human nature that when the cops leave whose guy talk, buddy used to hey man. The cops just over here, should have heard what you tell me about rob. Marble and pal I mean that's, that's a juicy bit you're all right, they're Baxter the man. You know what I heard about raw marble and shirley powell. That cannot read through the great ran down the road to peace. The cops gotta question. Somebody that's heard this rumour. Well, hey, do you know anything about? Well, what are your grounds? You say this everybody's saying it it's the kind of life from the time, so they actually either in I. I would like to thank its incompetence late trying to remain hopeful that they want intentionally trying to stick it on us, but according to their own hand, written documents, that's pretty much exactly have split the satanism. immerse had spread and like a friggin gas fire
And they had been well just got worse and worse. As time went on, the rumors went worse, people, drug attic smith heads were in get busted in and eu, they would say a crazy story, because they heard all about this shit quakers would tell oh yeah, I know they're still smells so and so and you know just to try and get out of being arrested. So I mean they've got just it. It became a flaring circus, it's pretty clear that the satanic rumors were nothing but town gossip in that randy likely met another fate, we asked Robert if he thinks randy's case will ever be resolved. I think it's lately contaminated I mean if it is solved, it'll be random, because somebody else stumble across his car remains somewhere, but the investigation was destroyed within the first month,
My poems record, my poems false accusations came only three or four days after his disappearance and the sheriffs department focused on all ass that's more resources than pursuing that, in fact, insane theory I mean they. Steered off into the weeds. A hundred native varies off track. They want that day for and they pursued that track for years they whatever trail may have originally been there, never got investigated, as totally cold. I mean it opinion this they have Mutilated any chance of finding through you know, investigation. You know is maintained. I wouldn't speculate, there's not enough info asian anybody that says they. They have something that they think happened. The dispute it and granted were talkies semantics here, but thinking The conversation there is that you have been from
asian base that fought on anybody can come up with a gas, but I could say it's random. Stairs and fortunately no solid information in those jackasses live more, been, and I say, quote, investigating this unquote for thirty plus years they still haven't found any. information and they had on. They want hi, high Allie raise Ivan with migraine for awhile as an athlete and gymnast I was taught to just power through the pain. Now I use you row the or you bro Japan, to treat my migraine attacks as soon as I feel a migraine attack. I take you ralphie, which provides you with quick relief. Once I get relief, I go on with my day. I am partnering.
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the. I was very young during the satanic panic era, so I to discuss what exactly satanic panic is with an expert we spoke to, after Joseph way cock a professor at texas state university who tee religious studies and has written several books on moral panic here. your lay cock on who he is and what he defines as moral panic. My name is the lake I can? I am a professor of religious studies. Attacks of state university in college. I was very interested in sort of what people believe in how they, how they see the world as came a researcher I was pretty we draw two was called moral panic things that people damn that that frightened them and that's that's how I got interested in the satanic panic of nineteen eighty four, so
Panic refers to a moment where a society believes that something has become an egg stanch or threats to the society, and sort of mobilise is resources to a war people about this and in theory at least to stop it. And usually views- go away on their own after after a while, so the eightys. We were scared of satan s in the seven We were scared of calls that we thought had the power to brainwash people in an aching fifty's were afraid of communists. the sale in what's trials in the seventeenth century is a great example of a moral panic, you could argue that sort of the with the anti semites Some of the nazis was a case where a moral panic, go away on its own and was sort of a few old into active of of
mendous violence. We Cohen, is the sociologist to sort of first began billy studying moral panics. for a moral panic to be successful. You need two things. One you need an end and party, that's allegedly endanger right because without that you're just a bully, So who is a feeble person attacking and usually it's women or children? Often white women? Right? If you look at panics involving perceptive african americans during reconstruction or native americans amongst the the colonies. The idea that the the Chinese are going to come and they're going to set up opium, dens and they're going to seduce white women and yeah there's so many examples of this, and this continue need, is you didn't enemy? They can't fight back, bribe can't really have an effective moral panic really say you know what male see owes are coming for our children. It just doesn't work for hate you. find someone is. It doesn't have a lot of resources to defend themselves and satan
her great, because basically they dont really exists there. You, basically not defined, an actual group of Satan s saying you now stop stop saying these terrible things about us: men and women, happen when you'd rudy do have modern people who are in a peaceful solution. If I'd, faintness but is it well you're not too sadness that we're talking about we're talking about real satan missing here, just to some rebellious nerd or something like this. It's another kind of the two ingredients as to why people keep bring us over and over again I mean sometimes this is this is polluted all this is a sort of distracted this implemented by a government or something and want to distract people from their their problems. It also has a lot to do with real forcing the the morals of the group you know, human beings are very tribal, is two creatures, and they have greater coherence if their persuaded that you know we're.
We are. We are united against this, this mutual threats and for that kind of some of the social function that moral panics conserve one is things we ask. Doktor lay cock was where the ideas of satanic ritual abuse originated in. If there any truth to the idea. Well trained, police. Satanic ritual abuse refers to a theory that some People were abused by satanists as children and that use was so bad that they they forgot that had happened. This begin, nineteen eighty, called michel remembers, which was written by a woman and her psychiatrist, and this introduced this idea into public consciousness that you could have been you know abused for years by by your mother, who was a satanist and not remember any of it until the psychiatrist hypnotize as you, so that that glad you entire industry of so called recovered memories fits whatsoever
talk about s our air to take ritual abuse? They usually mean this. If alleged abuse of small children, whereas if someone this sort of dragged from there, at night and sacrifice to the devil that wouldn't you he described as abuse that would just be described, as does he know, murder. There are groups, sageness sound nineteen. Sixty six anton levey founded the church of Satan there occasionally criminals, who a tribute there. their crimes, to satanic believer, example that is richard ramirez right who, Who did a spree killing in? in the eighties re kind of at the height of the terek panic and surgeon. I did this because I'm a satanist doesn't really exist is groups of satan is too, are both criminal and organised a generally organise, satanic groups. Actually, you have rules about. You can't do can't break the law right there. handful of cases where there seems to be
I'm degree of organization. The big example of that is in ninety nine kilroy you t often student went tomorrow's mexico on spring break and he was He was richly sacrificed by a drug cartel. However, I would it should be that violence it was a drug cartel, not want to have any sort of religious belief, and then the individual who had this bright idea that we need to you know, sacrifice one of these gringos. So our cartel will work. Better was not practicing any known belief system. He had the sort of strange mishmash that involve a number of africa, caribbean practices. And this is important. He was obsessed this bad horror movie called the believers which depicts of a fictional a voodoo called. That's that's murdering people, so This is another issue. Is that if we keep telling these stories about satanic murderers, if we tell them in,
we can bring the satanic murderers into being we're we're getting people ideas, so I think that a better understanding of whether or not these these things are true, we also wanted to know what causes people to be attracted to these social epidemics. People are too gullible. People watch these sort of terrible things on the news and they this sort of shrug another had and go about their business and they're, not critical, and I think it's really striking- that the things that sageness were said to be doing in the nineteen eightys, which was hurting children and sacrifice people and having grows, ass, jewess orgies right. Those are the three things I'm up over and over again kill people, weird sex, hurt kids for the same things that mediaeval christians accused use of doing and that men's accused early christians of doing before that enable I'll tell you these terrible stories.
then there are trying to get you to do something. They are trying to control you, and I wish, when people heard stories like that, they would stop and think First of all, how do I know this is true? What's with the evidence and second what is the person telling me the story when they try to get me to do? They tried to get me to watch their show or is trying to get me to come to their choice. Large right. What's what's the angle here, because if you stop and think about it, there is usually some sort of angle. I think there, number of cases like this, that the do happen in small towns. I think that you know example would be the west Memphis three five things: on contacted about a number of similar cases, and I think what happens is that in a big thing, If there's a martyr with no leads, it's just become cold case, but if it's a small town, there's no less, people think what about that, that creepy, writer. What a hook? What about?
at somebody spray painted in the abandoned hauser or something like this further, me why we tended to be sort of cases and small all communities in and not so much in big cities and solve murders are really scary. You know I mean if it doesn't feel well to to frank whoever did this is still a large, but Unfortunately, if you can it on the local golf kid, the real perpetrator is still at large right agreed the to either Instead of one we so. Ass doktor lay cock if there's any truth to the idea of sacrificing a human in the name of a say, tonic ritual. Now you are thinking biggest thing is to just stop and think about the evidence right. What kind of evidence which you need to see to prove? This claim, and then is that evidence there. So pretty clearly in the eighties? You know people would say things like satanist
murder, you know a hundred thousand people a year. Any these sort of I would just be told that sometimes on television or sometimes even in space, seminars for police on so called a occult crime and beyond the question, then, is what, where all these dead bodies re, where there were the crime seems what are What what? What are the names of the people involved in this report? That evidences is absent, and sometimes you missing evidence right? You know that need to explain. You know why? Don't we have the bodies in the middle thirty suffolk? Well, they you know they them in double decker graves right. They they dig under a coffin authority there and they stick the body down there, and then we have come his where you know an archaeologist or somebody can come in and say I've studied the soil. No one has disturb this: the soil, I say: well, they created the body, will bodies no more. we burn while they have mobile cremation right
never corner them, but I wish the people thought a little bit more about kind. It is this. Is this patient evidence to take this kind of claim seriously because anybody can say. Oh, I was in a satanic cults before I found Jesus sir. Oh, my my pen were sageness up without solid evidence. That's not plausible enough to begin. You know arresting people in and taking more radical actions. I simply don't believe that there are groups of people who get together and say: ok, guys it's the new moon who were going to sacrifice this month, who who's gonna pick for a soccer. I submit how we gonna get them in and so forth that just doesn't happen. There could be so another famous from the period involve a guiding ricky case. So who kill His friend in long island in nineteen, eighty four a while on lsd and supposedly made him say, swear you love satan. While he was stabbing him, something like
could have happened in Kansas. That's that's a plausible bathing. Was likely thing. Is that this? This is just sort of a tragic, a a events. I I would. I want to see better evidence than a cave with some heavy metal graffiti the satanic called theory. That's not sufficient evidence that other dimension to this. Having panic is a terrible things happen, people every day for absolutely no reason, ray and any creates the perception that we live in and a moral universe, and I think that weirdly for some people it is more comforting to thank my love and was you can buy forces of absolute spiritual evil. Not just it was. It was a random tragic accidents, the panic hundreds of dragons and nineteen. Eighty four triumvirate non. I started with a series of suicides and there were sort of noble explanation for why people kill themselves and I think, for some of the parents,
blaming it on on a game with the alleged satanic influences made them, better. So I think that could be a factor in this case as well. in recent years, Harold and albert, I decided to get their local representatives in congress involved and they decided to sue the state for copies of randy's records we wanted to get all the place. Record's there was a senator state, senator that hold us there. could get a bill set before the senate. As for the house, in topeka, it would get us the place reports, so we went through the whole process went up there and the the first day was unanimous, but then I had to go through the house. They, there. Don't know why, but First day really went through, but then they could it on another bill in the catch the eye
they did not want us to have the place records for some reason, which we knew, though the bill was shot down. And we got out. There was a letter sent from leavenworth counted for endless sheriff and he said if you wanna get the place. Reports are gonna have to do it lawfully, though, harder. Cora lawyer from words, and we went through the hearing. The judge postponed it two weeks later and in november seventeen we went back. It was a week before thanksgiving, through the whole deal and the judge wanted to look at, we want the first five years, because we figured that was where They should have really gotten into the investigation, and that's all we wanted was the first five years of randy's disappearance. and the judge wanted to review them, and it took him nine weeks
and in january of eighteen, he denied us to have the records after thirty years. The thirty year anniversary of randy's disappearance, was approaching Harold Alberta were contacted by reporters who were looking to do a new story on his disappearance, the scene. like, a small sliver of hope that the grieving parents desperately needed, but bird assured that this didn't go as planned: either we felt from the second way they work? I do not think we feel like they knew what happened that they were going to do anything they just went through the motions now man, but the sheriff to two years for her to get an appointment with him. He was always out or you couldn't get hold of him. Now this guy, He was ahead of her. He was involved with missing children and all that through his career, and he had a child and his county, that was missing and it took
two years, even talk to him I just I don't know why he did that It is still like. There was drugs involved The caves and we failed I get with higher up into the county. into the sheriff's office, never been able to prove it that boy, it sure, looks a lot like there was stuff going on down there that they did not want us in those caves. boy said there was a body hanging in the caves and that's what You know, why does that? We wanted to check it out And the gave I We ran along with leavenworth, so I dont know What the deal was, but we feel like they were hiding covering up a large step that went on and don't how rarely got involved in all of it with them. Attorney said at one point here I have seen something in summer debts up doing somebody it's up to him
or one of the other under sheriff said. Well, maybe he just committed suicide. You knows, like that came out in the paper and it was so unreal these people. I, how to do that. We had a kgb agent that, oh boy. He was really into it and here Last year the reporter from here any star, came out here and said he was gonna. Do speak story. Thirty years at random was missing back in it at last year and We spend a lot of time with him. He went over a lot of stuff and he had like ten pages of stuff. He was going to put in paper that we had told him the day before the paper was to come out. He called me and he said, Alberta we're going the story tomorrow, it's coming out tomorrow, that is and changed a little and I said What do you mean changed and he said well, the detective the agent that worked. your case for about ten years, he's retired now, but
come forward and told us a lot of stuff about the case and his theory- and I sent you gotta- be kidding me here supposedly thought that randy drove off the bridge down here, Linwood astray craig in it Eighty eight it was so dry, the one hardly water in the creek, but heat Probably the car went off in there and then it floated down into the hands of river and was probably in saint louis by now, and then story that they put it in the paper. I called him that night and I tell him, I'm so upset that you would even print something like that. he said well, he came forward and he wanted to tell it. I said yeah I just got cabbie eye off the hook because that way they can say well, we tried everything we could, but now I can't find it The I agent that Harold and Alberta are referring to is the now retired agent, Timothy Dennis after tat,
plus years of working on Randy's case. He came to the conclusion that Randy likely died in a car accident after losing control of his vehicle. According to a new article in the kansas city star from April of two thousand eight eighteen miss Dennis says that the most likely outcome is always the key to a case and in a story swirling with odd theories. He believe An accidental death in the car is the answer. theory is that randy took back roads on his way home that night, because he was intoxicated in may. have missed a one lean bridge that went over stranger, creek back and nineteen. Eighty eight and landed in the water ran His parents do not agree with this conclusion. When investigators initially question the party goers, most of them said that randy appeared to be heavily intoxicated that night, the straw
The thing is that most of them also said that they never saw randy with a drink in his hand, and that randy was not known to use drugs in full, act. He was known to refuse drugs when offered one. The Randy's claim that during the party she went to her car to get a coat and found randy sleeping in the back seat She asked him if he needed a ride and another friend asked him for his keys, but randy didn't want to hand them over another this told investigators that he had pulled randy back two times at night when he had almost fallen into the bonfire other class, Mate saw him passed out on the hood of a car yet another witness saw him fall out of a chair There are many similar accounts from others who attended the party that evening. around one. I am a friend found randy sitting on a bar stole next to his car. Just staring friend had randy laid down in the car. While he took another friend home he play
to come back to the party and drive randy home, but randy The car were gone by the time he returned the his eye, witness accounts seem to support the retired cabbie. I agents theory that randy left to drive home that night and could have had an accident because he was so intoxicated There are rumours that someone had put drugs in randy's drink, but there was never any evidence to prove that ring. His friends hold investigators that they had never seen him, then intoxicated so have to wonder if he did just drink too much or if something else was at play there. Easy to understand why Harold and Alberta were outraged about this party, teens, were being supplied, alcohol and who knows what else? and this wasn't a big secret that they were hiding from the hosts parents. They were there and knew the kids were drinking and would lay be driving.
So what happened? A seventeen year old, randy leech on that night in April, more than thirty one years ago he had breathing ahead of him. He was good, the car of his dreams. He had it's gotten a new lawnmower, so he could earn some extra money over the summer and even Thinking of what he wanted to do with his future where's his moms dodge six hundred that he was driving that night You have chosen at such a young age to walk away and start over. Did someone harm, randy and hide his body, and what Now all of these satanist theories is there any truth to those rumours was this a tragic accident after becoming intoxicated at the party or some else entirely. We may never know all the answers to these questions We do know that Harold and Alberta want and deserve closure
spent more than three decades searching for the answers as to what happened to their son at the time of his disappearance. Randy wayne leech was seventeen years old. He stood at approximately six, what three inches tom and wait about two hundred and twenty pounds he had brown, hair and blue eyes today. Randy would be forty, nine years old, of any information about the disappearance of randy leech, please call leavenworth county sheriff's office at one hundred five, seven to seven four, six. Three, you follow randy story on social media at in search of randy, leech, in the fact with the
meant to provide the family with a case files. It is bad enough after thirty years, but the fact that they leaked the case files through the rail negligence already. There's, there's no excuse for not to hand them over to the family. Now, I'd really like to see Harold an alberta, just some type of closure, neither one of them I mean, are getting any younger and how Harold's in very poor health.
Ideally I'd like veranda to be found, I'd like to see them get some kind of closure. You know, I hope the hell out of everybody for buying into that satanic, stupid circus. I pretty much washed my hands of the people in that town because they are so gullible as to believe that shit. Now I can't fault harold nor buddha for that, because you know they're there, the father of the guy, but I know they don't believe that crap about me now they did at one point early in eighteen, we went to the courthouse to talk to a guy that was in prison. He was in jail, he had he was allegedly killed, his live in girlfriend and he was next door to the party or where the party was held
They live next door. They didn't hurt him for two years. Harold contacting them all the time to talk to him, but after he allegedly killed this woman. He was in jail, so we went up and Harold talk to him on the phone through the jail system and he told Harold that he did not. Have anything to do with randy. We barely. They knew him really an. If I ever get anything I'll tell you so the process we have talked a liberal county for colonel time so we got an appointment to see. Josh talked germany's colored Dan and we went in his office, we had a couple stories that we give to just to check out anime Two weeks later, I called jaws, and I ask him if he had done anything on there and
supposedly the one guy that he was supposed to talk to lived in Eudora, which is just a little town over here from us, and he said well, I was over there one day when I was down in lynnwood and I went and tried to talk to him, but I couldn't find him and also I tried calling and I said well, you may have to keep trying because Harold tried to get a hold of it to anyone. he said I will be in touch We have heard from him sense. So that's how the stories went, you know they, they tell you they're gonna, call you and then you never heard another word. I none other busy, but. after this long time- and we took the stuff is to him, and they were pretty relevant stories really We're not heard a word for them the and hmm
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