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Mark Shearer

2019-01-06

53-year-old Mark Shearer was last seen on September 27, 2016 when his friend, Tom, stopped over to borrow a pair of bolt cutters. Mark's friends and sister began to notice that they hadn't heard from Mark and attempted to reach him by phone. They didn't get an answer and Mark never returned their calls. His friends stopped over but there was no sign of Mark. While at his house, they noticed some things that seemed out of place. They contacted the police to do a welfare check, they worried that he could have had a medical emergency inside the home but there was no trace of Mark. They reported Mark missing and the police realized that Mark's motorcycle had been found abandoned just days after he was last seen. Over two years have passed and they still have no clue what happened to Mark.

If you have any information about the disappearance of Mark Shearer, please contact the Phoenix Police Department Missing Persons Unit at 602-534-2121 or Det. Christopher Jansen at (602) 495-2019. If you would like to remain anonymous, you can call Silent Witness at 480-948-6377 or submit a tip on their website at http://www.silentwitness.org.

You can follow Mark's case on social media at Mark Shearer Missing.

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Hey prime numbers, you can listen to the vanished ad free on amazon, music, download, the today the. I talked to the fbi down mirroring we'll be said something bad happened to him if he had cash on him and somebody met him in I wanted to see was cash and they killed him make a pic about dumping in the desert. But somebody knows something somebody estimates. Something as mark was real well connected to people in very well white. the goal to locate more robbing the marks. Surviving relative
He had a doubling their path to early than he had bought. His parents pack has said, and now Robin is left to wonder. A bore where mark in our goal is to provide me answers as possible to help locate, mark and provide resolution. It's been no about two years and two months into his disappearance and we're seeking out help and assistance from the general public back in september of two thousand and sixteen fifty three year old mark shearer was living alone with his cat in phoenix arizona. His sister, robin in some of mark's friends, began to notice that they hadn't heard from him recently they attempted to contact him, but he wasn't returning their phone calls. That's when they started contacting each other to see if anyone else had heard from him, but no one had They went out to his house and a few things seemed out of place.
Porch light was left on, which was unlike him in his mind, had been piling up, worried He could be inside and possibly had a medical emergency. They come how did the local police to come out and do a welfare check they went inside, but there was no sign of mark the police took a missing persons report and this is the police realised that marks motorcycle had been found abandoned several miles away. In the days before he had been reported missing, that was just the beginning of this very bizarre mystery over two years have passed and they still have no clue what happened to mark amerika, and from wondering this episode. One hundred and fifty five of the vanished mark shears story,
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download june's journey for free today on ios and android back toper of last year, I travelled to phoenix to attend their annual missing persons day event. While I was there, I had the pleasure of meeting mark sister, robin and also the detective who was investigating his disappearance. More This case hasn't gotten a whole lot of media attention, so Robin was hopeful that we could help spread awareness about his disappearance, twin stand. What may have happened to mark? We have to, go back robin told us a bit about her brother, You know that Here I mean he was involved in sports from early on in play football at school and we agree, would go skiing. We grew up in ohio, so sweet spend a lot of time. Skiing in just one that someone he went up to any you. He continued to ski in, involving motors
I called he really loved ass. It had to do with the magic tricks he was really into bad. and had paper out when he was growing up in your typical kid stuff. He and my dad were very close from the gecko. They were involved in all sorts of things like It was called the we blows. It's like a cub scout thing, They did volunteer working away. My god did a lot of work with the parents about partners once you, my mom got divorced. They and work through the church and help feed homeless on holidays. When we couldn't get together. You know he wishes always there use just very curious, not very. hearing you when you talk to him and he would smile, he would get this trip in his eye think he was too so happy the be talking to get to know
Firstly, the end: you don't see that very sorry, but he's my younger brother and we I lived in phoenix and my husband- and I actually move back out here from ohio in two thousand, there came to be with him, because my dad had died and he had my dad had lived together. He was taking care of my god. They were really close, together in a household here in phoenix, my brother was my only remaining sibling laughed and we also have sister, who died that she is. She died, Three years ago. But had kid so we were very very very very close. I mean our whole family growin up. We were, we always did everything together in our markets. Baby, We can only boy and he was probably a little on spoiled side, but I think we all were in a wages.
And every holiday together every once when my husband and I moved out here- Came over every sunday and had dinner with us. As I mentioned at the time of his disappearance. Mark was living alone. He was single and robin explained that over the years had been in several serious relationships, but none of ever ended up working out. He had enough a boy close relationships where we thought he was gonna get married and was engaged a couple times that my it's July. We can get married until we were older, but we still have the hope, but even even the two women than he was then a merry and they broke off. They still stayed really good, close friends I dont know of one person that mark didn't like I can tell your one person he ever said anything bad about or anybody that he ever had got feelings towards.
One thing that we ve seen in cases when someone goes missing and they live alone, as others off the delay in reporting, because no one immediately notices that work gone. This is happened with mark in a case like this, the exact time line can be murky as adults, often get busy and afraid Not answering the phone is an immediate cause for concern as time goes on and there's no response. This is when the worry starts to grow. This is it exactly what happened in marks case. So Happened was he went missing the industry, Camper of two thousand and sixteen we haven't had any luck and finding himself through massive efforts of the police and the mist. persons bureau, and I myself and his friends mark was one of those people that had friends from the time he was in school and could talk, he had friends
There are still his friends today and they were. People but came stalled, came so come with me. to the missing in arizona then every year and help some of the tide and put out flyers in the park. They think that he was last in. We ve got no response, so he he was, he know very love. We call the police how the police after week that we hadn't heard anything from him and made repeated calls and they did a well person check on his house because we thought well. Maybe he is fifty three I mean. Maybe he had a heart attack in his house or something- and you know we couldn't reach us but now there was no sign of them. Is house was locked up. There were groceries on the counter, and his was inside and she had been fed, but not for a couple days any children, pets were children, sickly when they report
mark missing the police realised that they had found his motorcycle abandon just days earlier. And its motorcycle. He had a custom harley davidson motorcycle, two thousand nine prison in condition they had found. His motorcycle abandon side of an older couples house about We have four miles from his home it is. Then there are apparently for two or three days laying in their side yard and nobody came the claimant and they, I guess they just stopped Somebody would come back and get it and finally, when nobody dares, they call the police. So when the plea cannot do the one person check. The officer told me: what we found is motorcycle inevitable that guy b because mark would never. Mark would never leave his motorcycle hit. That thing was like I said pristine condition, every second he
in posted on its facebook page you, it's really proud of that thing. They found it with he's in it. You know. What's gas is the the pristine condition plain in somebody's yard, so that wait there to me was very suspicious. I asked office why aren't you you getting, this is- on homicide or something because mark it wouldn't do this. Here is how to speed up his friends were even touch with his friends happened, a week before its disappearance, according to robin, the police seemed to initially think that mark would return that maybe He had just gone on vacation and forgot to tell someone. Referred us to the missing persons division came out and took a report and pretty much told us what we got really go looking for adults and must stay Have they either mentally incapacitated or the child.
Ok, I understand that. But this is not. You're normal marked, marcus, wouldn't take up and get up and leave and go not tell us family and friends here, Wasn't that kind of person. He was: always connected with the person who followed up and she didn't catch him. I'm not saying that he was mister, reliable or anything or mr prompt, but he was always saying in touch with people. Still? You know he had a home. He took care. My daddy in feel we can get much response to the police. I said: what can we do? What can we do in this way? You can post flyers and we put him in the morning person database the door to door in the subdivision, where his pipe with sound for maybe two or three months. Every single weekend there was a core group of us, my friends, my husband, friends, and we would get together every weekend and go through the park and through the neighborhoods and post flyers in his disappearance.
I started a website you know, constant contact with the police. I gave him names and numbers of every single computer device, my brother had of people means contacts of people that we didn't already know about which there were some that close friends. I guess that mark had been in contact with the most often his closest friends didn't even know who the these people were. And you know it the longer it went on the harder it god, because we just we felt like It was right about us, What's in his behaviour to just take up an elite and they said well, you know he could have gone on vacation and I say first of all he had house payment and he was hey this house payment every month and these bills he wasn't behind in anything so explain that that he was in contact with those coming to our house. Almost every week
spend every week and then all of a sudden you just disappears. We all spoke to marks friend tom, for this episode Tom told us how he knew mark yeah I've known mark since were sophomores in high school. Fifty for now so yeah. I knew him for about shoot. Close to forty years A mark was very outgoing. Curious guy are always asking questions. Very friendly used to like to motorcycle on he's right the japanese bites within later in his life? He got that hardly the great waited for many. You had said well. Different jobs worked in the restaurant business it: a manager montgomery words for a hospital company were true, arizona? Rattlers is a sales rep the last five years for he went missing and where's dad passed away, uses dad caretaker to grow good care of you
before he passed away. just a really good guy. Strange how he just disappeared when trying to establish a timeline and marks case. His friend Tom may be the last known person to see him alive. He spoke about the last time he saw mark on september. Twenty seventh two thousand. Sixteen amounts thirty p m. My saw mark. I had borrowed some bulk cutters from him. There is a day make sure I get these back problem. The combined our later. That was about six thirty in the evening, and then I got like a pocket dial heard some noise, it figured, I accidently it. It is, but and he is right in his bike. Somewhere mark would put his phone I didn't get out his motorcycle.
He probably accidently called me. Now I heard was this thumping noise tum tum tum now? Is it about seven o clock on september, twenty seventh which I think means that I might have been the last by the last ones to speak to him before his bike. Whatever happened to him happened before his bite was left at that location we. Then it wasn't bad for me not to hear mark for a couple weeks. a month at a time. His other friend Jeff day Let me now I haven't heard from marking over. We saw that concern can I went over the houses porch light was on which he never leaves on his girl. Money miser with electricity and the trunk of his car was prompt open. all the way open, but there was it wasn't lock, it wasn't secure, announced in a strange,
and so I went over to his sister and said I haven't heard in the night said: text call them- and I didn't get any response and two sisters house and said I think something's wrong with mark uniting, and so then we called the police and we media wellness check. to find out check in his mail that his bike had been left. over twenty first in larkspur price. ugly about three days after I saw this there and that was not like mark mark, would never leave keys were any ignition too, so that the bike was parked up on the sidewalk at twenty. First then larkspur wishes three miles from his house or maybe even for almost like somebody put it there. Then we found our lives. I found out I check in his mail that yeah the police had come by. Trying to let him know that that day, Pounded his motorcycle,
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These really are the best sheets. Ever I know important thing to note on marks timeline is that a motorcycle had been reported to the police on September thirtieth and the people, reported it said it had been there for about three days. If that you is accurate and tom had seen him on the twenty seventh and the bike, recovered on the thirtieth It's possible that mark went missing on the twenty seventh after Tom had dropped off the bolt cutters. the area, whereas motorcycle was left, could be some kind of clue or could have been left to throw everyone off the trail. Location is an important piece of the puzzle. No one figured out exactly where it fits the motorcycle didn't really yield any clues either they found it a receipt
the motorcycle, that you demanded a bad job to get some crickets because he had a pet lizard. I check some hackers any he'd gotten gas a couple days before four dollars worth a try, just killed a desert motorcycle tag I'm guessing, he went and got crickets earlier and that day's planet anthedon is lizard. Some happened. I believe something happened evening at the twenty seven twenty eight and knows by got mood one that Tom thought was strange was when the police came out to dual well check on mark. There is food doubt for the cat thing else. Wasn't right, you got it was me the cat door was was lacking. I dont think mark every language He let his cat come and go so it's almost like, wherever whatever foul play happened. The day came back to the ass Tom had mentioned. Wanna marks other friends Jeff. We also
I spoke to him for this episode. Jeff, spoke about how he knew mark more ground, Where does I mark myself in town out portrait? We're all we're all pretty much the same age, our new town a lot better than I did. They were younger than me. what's it like an authority just moved out of the area for several years, but he told us how you re connected with mark later in life. Well, when I was in a passive Well, let me go back to about nine. that died, My mom was a mass, so I was half of your for six years. so it was time for me. Come back. I came back with more facebook, went to a classroom. You knew they were
What they called mixers were know different years. People showed up, and that's where I reconnected with mark and that's when he was caring for his dad I think right at that time marked health bonfire they're moving. I used to play, photo other houses. House, on, like seventh street thunderbird, marked dad separated a brutal andrea The broader hidden in the head, This happened to be over their supper with there. You was on the ground just called one really the guy that, after that, I think that's dead, so you'll get really sick. I guess he had put him in half desert that way. After Jeff and mark reconnected several years ago they. in contact on a regular basis,
Tom and Robin were becoming concerned about mark around the time of his disappearance. Jeff. also beginning to worry the last time. Remember talking to mark or think like his birthday, which was nine, eleven. I didn't get a hold them. They think the left, a said to go over to house it and in the daytime and market the chief guy when I got there, if the like on it, like you, The so sound like a kind of peculiar Even if mark on vacation, he wouldn't turn his porch light on she hadn't gone. You allow indications that so I can't You re, the doorbell welcome to garage door and I got nothing so I went back and forth around the driveway were of car was in his trunk was open. It was You know crack up a look at that level.
With more so, I said: well let the mailbox nobody's seen before. I mean I didn't go into looking at the dates or anything at that I didn't think that was important, but I knew male in their lot of meal times the male man, so I only he looked at the postmark dates that will give them If idea, maybe how long have you haven't got a male fellow? the door. I noticed tat cat jumped in the window, Margaret never leave tat an attendant. that point. I wouldn't think I called common, let's robin the message the time and I were we were canada. I didn't come out through got up. the police buried the welfare jack. I guess they would. Do the back and open the back door and how they could save Market manner, go in there and like search the place. They wouldn't look remark you haven't there
Jeff mentioned that when they went to marks home it was really a mass? wasn't known for having extremely spotless home. With this wasn't like him either it. it concerned. Jeff and he's wondered if mark had left her to mass or if someone else had been rifling through marks, belongings, more, It also mentioned something kind of strange before he disappeared something about having a large amount of money inside his home. But someone have known or thought that market a large amount of money inside his house come back. mark telling me this ten thousand out now, that's That's not a normal guy. He didn't say that to me Has anybody misplaced that much money in time never heard the end of it, though you figure it's well, he must have found What are you looking for? We didn't go in there. Looking for that, you know day we were. We will to the house Frankly, I would have weakened.
plan at the time you a recital in the things the paperwork look keys and was founded. I run over something important, not break it up in the We have limited raid, would like a whorehouse they look like he had every people laundry and the little room on another. let's see anything that legal lop ear, that- and I don't remember, ever been at your tidy your knees, but suddenly report Please stop not do it. You never know now. After hearing about this ten thousand dollars from Jeff if Tom had any more information about this money. More common asian with new six months. ten thousand an envelope and I lost it? couldn't remember where he put it he says I've looked every like every once in a while, but at the gym or to hey to find that money and you'd say no.
I didn't We can be certain that this money was inside marks home when he disappeared, or if it for truly existed, but it's possible. That mark may have mentioned this to more people than just tom that someone could have overheard him talking about the money I mention that when they went inside marks house after its disappearance that it was messier than expected, which I wonder if someone could have gone through tossing his things, to look for something, if that The case could they have been looking for that ten thousand dollars, I was immediately concern that mark had left his cat. Abandoned motorcycle was a huge red flag for him as well. More primarily the cat. I think when we went in there at the time we get nowhere, motorcycle was and then right shortly out, more effective, sound the keys in it like a couple miles down the road. He would never even more vital here
How do they would call the insurance. The lad barrier in the gas goes insurance. I'm sure he had some kind of wrote that so kind of new. That point there is. There is something something really wrong: no signed in couldn't get too through a cell phone, the reason he would call somebody pay you and watch my cat come over My tat On the whole, I think things the indicated power that way, and it was, based on the tat remain with you know his true: was open in his car Try to take his car or attempted to take his car, we couldn t Martin. What had this I would have let you battery room now, a cemetery the car they wouldn't the gardener. Mechanic. They want to be able to figure out. That's one, that's the biggest thing we, What about your backup with keys in?
from the very beginning, Robin has felt ass, though the motorcycle being left several miles away, was a big clue. She just can't seem to figure out where this coup fits in the overall puzzle of marks disappearance. She pushed the police do some testing on the bike. I only convinced the police to take the boy can have tested forensically I say we're gonna sell it. then abandon vehicle. Concern me because I said to the detective: if with if it was the last place, that mark was or if somebody had done so, kill him and then come back and dump the bike. There might he's some evidence on it. I watched many cops to repeat police shows anna. be some evidence on the by that you could use and what they said they found was nothing but marks. Pranks in member states that'll bags of simple
since he had made at a petsmart store so every day. I think you know what Is it that I can do the trader? need to try to find ever find out what happened to him. We called on the hospitals or the morgue father jails in anything that we were told to do that we could possibly do we did and had been continued to do my go every year to the missing in arizona that, with his friends talk to the detective and once a week I try to follow up with the detective. Even though the testing on the motorcycle was a dead end and there wasn't nothing inside the compartments that was suspicious. That doesn't mean that their hadn't been something there that someone could have wanted. If you like this lock on the motorcycle. It's possible. it stayed in there, but I don't know if you have
Therefore, impounded though I don't trust in town people far you control, I think whatever whatever was value, I it was gone before even the motorcycles that's what I'm guessing the motorcyclists planted. What other guy they will? tat when his person went along with it, to do that or person. Robin also mentioned something interesting about the last call on marks phone. Active, told me that the last person that mark talk to died. The number anyway, the number that mark talk too bright before him. missing? that number used by somebody. The the phone had died in may prior to mark going missing in september. I don't know, detective found out the detective. That they traced back that number
person who own that number had died in may of two thousand, and sixteen distance was very strange. And a couple who on the phone, because either stolen King order in he said they went back and talk to the man son who hasn't given them a lot of information in their tracks. The track down the wife of them. Died that on the phone, but he didn't give me a name. You know he said in some cases he kicked about that information, which is it I'm gonna thought like I'm gonna go to their house anyway, but I would never do that. I use it It seems to me that if he had conversation on this phone number and I'm sure, though officers are doing. Their best investigated Is that members still being used? had that conversation with mark. If it wasn't the man on the phone was one lee that had come in that could be promising, but all
who could be nothing at all I'm conversation. They told me that thing at plymouth canvas the park that was next to the subdivision spike was left that some. de in the park, There are a lot of homeless people out here in the parks answer. That they heard somebody walk into the park mumbling about a motorcycle, but you know maybe they did one we started put not flyers. We never ran across anybody. and there weren't any To my knowledge I don't know, but they got any or leads up of all those quires that we put out by My friends and I we even went down in a ravine where the homeless people stay mean the area. The part that day this guy's, supposedly They heard someone muttering stumbling about talking about a motorcycle first of marquess enough here
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still we ever know about a person, do you shall one side of yourself to your family and another to your friends, balls researching marks case. I learned the hideous drugs on and off but this was not something he had confided in his sister about Tom speaking about that market. Really close. I saw a college years and after we went to the polls for example, gather and then I ended up get now The post office and I've been there for thirty four years, and then he added the college and went up to any you were there words. You know when he was taking care of his dad me wasn't working yet allowed I'll time, so he did start. A little bit of drugs and I died in hang around with them as much as it is some of the company was hanging around Well, I just didn't like that. You know that. is clear, but when he was in he would he would clean up. He would dabble in it and then he'd clean up and then
when he cleaned up he'd call me and we'd hang out, but when he went, and I went into the world or in that role I kind of knew that I don't want it Hang around so he wouldn't he'd be a little distant from me at those times and spoke about what she knew in regards to marks. Drug use he might have smoke Samir marijuana, but that was about it and apparently enough he was. Doing anything beyond doubt. We didn't really know about it also wasn't aware of the extent of marks drug use until after he disappeared if we do a lot lot more drugs. the wearer, from what I know with america. While I met a little bit about that, don't get too during the end was gone. I wonder how we found the love when it would appear to be met in pipes, mark really struggled with the death of his father. As the two were very close. We
be certain, but it is. small that mark turned drugs to help cope with the loss of his father robbins. Talk about how she went to grief, counselling and try to get mark to go to. My dad were best friends in its favour connected from the soul. I wouldn't have some grief counselling. We were just wrote close family its mark. was tough for him to talk about his feelings, Nobody ever got anything for that. I mean, maybe that's why smoke pottering our men or something to me about it a little bit after we got back here and he came over me talk about it. I said you know how are you doing since dad died in uk see his whole face change, no one. What does is trying to get him to open up about a little bit? He said here I said earlier. I just can't believe they're all guy met. They left us here,
so much so that we can only. each other. This again Sixty no dad would be glad about that We can be happy that they're, all thirty cover who will be there's some day soon, but hopefully not too soon. United main thing is that we just have to stick together that we can do We ve got house our houses five miles apart from each other also mention that mark had a significant surgery several years back and he wondered if the downtime he had after that surgery was when he could have started using drugs. Whatever back the phoenix You have another, certainly I don't remember exactly why, but They took him a wild, be able at this again. Second, there so we can move around. Or any even write, a motorcycle that there were, even in the thought you know like two thousand ten two thousand eleven he was trying to do european kith. Maybe that's where
Forget it into the mouth with all this free time. I actually took him when he picked motorcycle when he bought it. We near the line, he was like a little kid in the candy store, he got his motorcycle and, of course it is paid for so yeah. I guess the time he had money and I don't know exactly I guess you was investing in real data It will use that money. The motorcycle cinema since disappeared? His friend Tom has spent a lot of time going over the possibilities in his mind. Mark dabbling? some drugs there towards it. and so he may have come across some bad guinea or something you know. I don't know Whatever happened you I don't know, I could speculate. You know. things crossed my mind. I don't know maybe a jealous boyfriend or something as he did like
you know he wasn't married, but he still like to dating girls in everything so so I thought maybe dad or somethin involved. drugs is where I think the foul play Happen- and I have no idea once that Jeff has wandered about. Was the theft could have been the motive because missing along with mark, whereas wallet and cell phone a mere before dawn on your phone You know I try to access it yet a cricket from when I tried to every password in the world to try to get his voicemail. But I you know, no luck. Works. Phone and credit cards have not been used since he disappeared, but robin mentioned that he was known to use cash ends path. It was here and now
I dont know if he had money- that's the thing I think he might have had cash on him, because apparently he liked to use cash more than credit. You know, none of credit cards were used. Did he went missing while wallet. None of his personal identity, to my knowledge, had been used. Noise phone. One thing that robin mentioned was the possibility that mark could have gone into mexico and that something could have happened to him there. She knows of one other time that he had gone to mexico in the past, so it isn't completely out of the realm of possibility here. He given that some girl at a barn, maybe She caught. the boy in mexico, and you could do something Also things sometimes so that's definitely a possibility. Ye are concerned. bed the girl I met. you know you're horror stories could confirm phoenix. who is to go years ago, used to go down. The rocky point now is a big party spartan. I
go down there to get medication and go down for ten to work, cos the bordering in so smooth quite a four hour drive, I think if you involved in any type of drug thing or whatever than to a lot, it's coming up from mexico, I mean he is carried a lot of cash on him. Does it you know- and should to the wrong person- in the case of a missing a doll, there's always a chance that they could have walked away an initially the police told robin. That was what they thought had happened, but first we kept insisting that market so wise, and now, when I gave him marks version now step the dna, They came to my work or my office one day, and he and his boss detective jensen I just came to my office one day in so. We know he still wife. I don't know. I just
you're right I hope you're right. I just with all my heart, and so I hope that your right and yet We know only too the time and just I couldn't do that. Just so agreed with robin he doesn't leave mark would have just walked away either the boys their tape. I will it happened to our people just disappeared. They want on the other without pay off, in the car he and his motorcycle. He had his cat and he had way too much going for him to just walk away somebody who live there. Everything. They've worked for. entirely Well, I'm just going to go for a couple years, men and not back in. I'm sure that happens, but I'm sure it's very rare, extremely rare. Indeed, in these circumstances, Not speaking with robin and marks friends, one name kept coming up over and over
whatever drug activity that mark was involved with? He seemed that separate from his relationships with robin and his long time. Friends, Tom and Jeff, the one that kept coming up with a guy named lance. Here's raw in speaking about what she's learned about lance. Apparently there were several people. I just met with the detective we can get the missing in the euro zone are banned and he said they ve been going back through the records marks phone records and trying to track down the people, the last ten people that he can How could the most, that more in his family, Anne frank circle, We didn't know about Apparently these people are giving. Information about mark that is either not based in anything back or they're, giving the change. their stories, they been contacted a couple times. It's one individual in particular, who market
I've been contact with his name was less. He changed. This story three different times. There are some things they just don't line up who plays a role, this land person, whoever he is something there, because each one that keep changing a story with us on a couple of four times by march friends in them by the detective any I tried to tell the detective betty overdosed something there. That's not right market had some other parts delivered to his house for the sky. And they were still at his house when we came over here looking for him, no time his best friend had taken the power taken him to this guy, because I didn't want to have guided Mona. scared me, and I you know, I didn't know who he was I also had a suspicions about, let's possibly knowing more, He worries that marks disappearance could have been a drug deal gone wrong. Arrogant relations, but I
Maybe a drug deal with that If I left it was both the sunny blow mark had a really shade branded sunny slope. His name was less than you. Do a graduation he might have been doing more drugs than I was aware of, or more types of drugs. You know this guy lance actually meant then. She something about age. Beer. He said I might add that isa desert when Tom was over there visiting with another friend? You know that my brow, why would you say that I mean speciale, maybe my friend it, I'm not going to say therefore, what are you saying shady guy, I'm not real sure how he met him. Look here. They buy it. Now that I know tat, with Tom was introduced to in time or another
I dunno. Maybe that was mark's way of saying: hey, I'm gonna trust this guy. You come with me You said that market, his car, like you thousand dollars and resolve the girl, would enable you get the money back, so there was a their names, and well I'm I the last one I don't have a written, did not believe him oh him and mark, had some kind of a thing going on with a with a with a piece of a car park. amazon an hour the library brandon bond market- to me the deliveries. How does it work and what will you do Fundamentally, with your help, We want to know what happened to them at home that well, my lady. They won't you, with their lives but in the order of going back yard, the something like that I found the aims box and I'm like well. This is probably the part lance of looking for now a weird situation too
there wasn't like you- would really concerned about mars. Well being more like I want that part on the outskirts of the freeways the other on the outskirts is here. Aren't you a bad drug deal you? I can see him taken him Do you know a desert area where there's coyote either now or big girl, but you get to be dangerous, people like fall down into it here, you're down there, the weak and broke your leg. You are eating rattlesnakes and I guess shops or something I you never know that ten thousand dollars that mark said he had but lost tom things that lance also knew about that money. He probably told people that he was called. He told me right or jumping jeff at all. The guy that he spent a lot time with, and I think the detectives only interviewed him once was lance reggie party who were left torres. I interviewed. Let's
Oh yeah me in march up the same hours. I took that to mean that you know he would stay up I met at night. So your mark you're, a garden in my back yard. He also said I asked: let's see the black, the japanese mark ngos. I think my diet of an accident all over those of php. You think TAT those good. I was sound it to him He might know more than he's told the police an interesting thing. The police said they couldn't tell us where it is. Cell phone was last, but the last tower was twelve streton Hacha, alas ping from so tower, I don't know what that is What that means, but lance lives it central. In answer to the kind of puts the cell phone, the last king from the cell phone close to where land
and I have just heard from suspicious things personally interviewed him- he said I'll get my guys out. Sons, welcome, move will find out what happened the march and then about it. Months later we interviewed him again and he goes oh, we said we were going to pass out flyers in the area and go oh. That would be a waste of time. didn't, hang out and the sloping hung out west phoenix. In other words, you discouraging us from passing outliers in the area, which I thought was I we know we, he out in the sunny slope area near lances ass. He got to the pet pet receipt went to the pet shop at nineteenth and impure area in Egypt. I start by the patch up on his way to laugh. But let's claims he was out of town the entire month before marks disappearance. I care, verify that one way or another, but that's what he said since kept his circle separated
Been difficult for robin to make clear connections between people mark had been communicating with a new commission simply be involved in his disappearance. one day she was overworking marks garage when some people she had never met approached her. A guy in two women? The came over to his house We were over here trying to clean out its grudge, confer computers and stuff. I used my son. christian, the detective already has talked on Christian and then to other women. I can't remember their names or by everyone, thought their names but dating. looked like they were They had had some drug use, the one might even said she thought mark was doing drugs, You know, I don't know I really don't know. This woman was had never met her before she got, but she was on drugs herself, so I'm not sure what the connection is thomas,
I have been going over all the different theories I can think of, but there's just never enough to pin down a really solid theory. Then you know tom and I were looking. We ve talked about. You know a handful scenario that were It could have been great because we have not got there, what is the best that we were right there? that's a pretty much you go. After a a leading until it turned up not believe as I mentioned, I had the chance to meet the detective whose investigating marks disappearance detective cod. Four Janson also spoke with us for this episode now I did the area of twenty five avenue in union hills when he went missing, mark sister, robin, didn't, see or hear from him Robin became mom, gradually became concerned about marxism, there is a lack of contact she had with him in the past month.
She went to check up on him. Well after not being able to locate him not be wanna, come through the telephone. She initiated a missing persons report with us. And as we are looking into the report, we also we located dumb marks motorcycle about five half miles south. His address in the area of twenty first avenue in larkspur. Now we gain any any information or by looking at marks motorcycle that was abandoned, or in that intersection or not protection is more abandoned on mere house, so actors, we can with robin and in marks friends. I believe one of em you spoke with with tom, learn a lot about mark and learned that he had two sets of france. He had is, My friend said robin and his two really close friends that reside here close them and then there is another group of friends that they used to.
Didn't know about each other We did hear that mark did have at times he or she suffered from addiction, but call isn't we set aside in our goal to locate markets are, as you know, Robin is marks black surviving relative He had a sibling that the path to by early than he had his both his parents of path has since path, and now Robin is is left to wonder were where mark with in our goals to provide, as many from me as it is possible to help low. Eight mark and provide resolution in answers to robbing it during this difficult time the time has been all about two years in two months since his disappearance and now we are speaking out, help and assistance from the general public and we ve gone through silent. Witness,
and we have also done social media platforms. We have also reached out to the traditional media platforms, to help us either someone's memory, data have had a contact with mark, or maybe it had a friendship but mark, and we also want to encourage people back again with silent witness. There is a potential monetary or, if information, leads to his whereabouts, also We got to hit on again is that some people, go missing under their own accord, and they might have a disagreement or disconnect with the faint france or family, and they just eve and our goal is to find in any state physical state possible again robin They thought survivor of their family and she deserves the answers that she did it. Is it a question that she has regarding the disappearance of her brother were thick?
out information to help us locate him. I spoke with many friends. I spoke with the family. and everybody has spoken with, is concerned for mark a great deal. Bites at this time. We just don't have a lot of information to point us in the direction. Where he may have gone and seeking out the general public's distance is paramount at this time. We Hoping that a person that might A recall mark might recall him beginning with him. Prior to this, or after his disappearance to help us out come forward to direct the investigation into locating him We frequently get questions from listeners and one of the most common questions is wise state law enforcement agency or the f b. I haven't gotten involved in a specific case. While we were,
Speaking to detective Janson, we asked him how the phoenix police department works in conjunction with other agencies, to help bring their cases to a resolution as quickly as possible without a fight case what we do. We help out the families and start looking vocally. We start basically it's kind of like this imagine throwing iraq and do our part and he had a ripple effect. We start off The case of the personal last being here inside the city of phoenix we start off at that. last known location from there. We start to work out and then, as we start to gradually work, our way out will speak with france, because families a husbands, wide sisters, brothers in all children and will start to gather in overall comprehensive the standing of the person that, where the missing person at times a person can go missing under their own accord where they could have just
for whatever reason in life decided just two hours. aware, step aside from the family and in leave or theirs, other cases where we just don't really know where they are, as expands will start to seek out these since from other agencies other organizations that national centre for ms exploited children, the nose outside organizations to help us depend on the case. Cave, it's involving to either more child or an elderly adults. We always seek obviously, and thereby social traded, either social media platforms and traditional media platforms, to get the word out right away that we're searching for maybe a person that can't take care of themselves Why, in older juvenile or a and adult or younger adult can so Phoenix either is acute, any we start the investigation here within the phoenix pity.
and then from mare as we need help, we will start to citizens. From the other agencies. We will see out the assistance from there, agencies. Other law enforcement agencies are well we'll pick up here, there's from customs and border control. We will seek out the assistance, Fbi, especially when maybe it down it involves. The data needs to be analyzed each long for agency and independent, where it is or who it is, they all have on their own little specialities. We don't want to just give cases too law enforcement agencies. We will keep our key. and we will work on, but we all welcome in collaboration with the other see there are willing to assist at the you see that we reach out to we, work very well with each other very well. I know Sometimes we watch tv- someone asked me this
Why should not in the street me would ask me: how can we just don't give everything right to the fbi? Well, you know tee. is one thing, but the defeated please, farming does a really really really good job on investigating their own cases or the cases they originate within our jurisdiction, and we, ownership and pride in those cases. And we will work those cases until proper, a solution is found either in this case a missing persons. Find them in whatever herb, whatever various physical state or In criminal cases will keep her case, is ongoing and tell a resolution is obtained. So happened. A mark sheer after his friend Tom last saw him on the evening of september twenty seventh, two thousand. Sixteen. We know that. the drug side of his life somewhat separated from his long time, friends, and also his sister robin It seems as though this is a real problem, with marks case
Those who are most motivated to find out what happened. Him don't know who he may have been hanging around with, This lance no more than he said was this. Disappearance. Some kind of drug deal gone wrong did so One thing that mark had a lot of money in his house, maybe mark, did have that cash and it was taken. Why was marks motorcycle abandoned, where it was eventually found, also what about the cat being fed and the cat door locked with someone harm mark and then care for his cat and why was the trunk of his car left open for robin tom and Jeff thereof left wondering about all of these things at this point in time, the phoenix police department is hoping that someone out there has a tip that could help put them in a new direction with marks case, If you have any information about the disappearance of mark sheer, please contact the phoenix police department missing persons unit at six zero to five.
Before to one to one or detective Christopher Johnson, at six zero to four nine five, two zero one. Nine, if you would like to remain anonymous, even call silent witness at four eight zero, witness. That's a forty, zero, nine four, eight six, three seven seven! You can also submit a tip through their website at silent, witness daughter, work done. Everything we are right to do tomorrow. Have bad revered might have been able to get through dogged involved or something you know who, I guess, that wasn't meant to be, I think those ideas are tossed out there able to get a dog to sniff around looking for martin at that park we went to, and that was popular. that was what workers
I am beyond heartbroken and sad because we don't know what happened to one. Use one of those people that he would give you a shirt off his back and everybody loved them use very charismatic graduated from any you and was in the paternity and just tat everywhere from ohio, to phoenix and his friends from ohio from great school. I know we're calling me and getting in touch with that pitch one of his girlfriend married somebody else. Helped us go out and look for him. So you know he had it. He had friends just love and adore him like its family. It can't we just can imagine what could happen to him
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The brings us to the end of episode, one hundred and fifty five I'd like to thank robin tom, Jeff and detective jansen for speaking with us, for the show, if you have a missing loved one that you'd like to have featured on the show, there's a case submission form at the vanished, podcast dot com. If you'd like to contact me, there's a page and a discussion group on facebook, I'm on twitter at the vantage pod and also on instagram, if you enjoy the show subscribe now and leave a five star review on apple podcasts, spotify, wonder ea dot com or wherever you're listening right now. Do you want to help support the show? There's a couple of things that you can do. One way to help the vanished is by supporting our sponsors, you can find links and promo codes in the episode notes. Another way to support the show is by filling out a short survey at one re dot com. Slash survey join me next week, I'll be covering a case from texas. Thanks for listening, the.
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