Hey prime numbers, you can listen to the vanished ad free on amazon, music, download, the app today I just don't believe it. You could just walk away like this or just don't make sense. There were supposed to come home on Monday. The second

and never happened, so our searches started out looking for we are looking for a body and then we would think differently, or maybe maybe this wandered off with these people, like gotta, be fact of all of tat train and go to the next bustle and that's how they live. I cannot believe that cabin would do something like that, because he was so close with that cabin was very loved. I guess the best way to describe his soul. He was just a kind and gentle soul, but when he got bad it for it broke your heart to see so sweet.

and July. First, two thousand eighteen. Twenty year old cabin graves went missing spending weekend at the electric forest music festival in ocean and accounting michigan Kevin was attending the music festival with his girlfriend kayla in their friends when an alleged argument out between the couple according to those with Kevin that day, he storms while acting erratic and he was never seen or heard from again Kevin and the belongings he had with him. At the moment he walked off, such as his wallet and cellphone were never found. Kevin's girlfriend by the police that he was missing and told his family that she couldn't find him after the festival, knowing this Was unlike him, Kevin's loved ones went into immediate action to try and find him what would transpire next be a mysterious series of events

theorizing that he had been a victim of foul play too then believing he had left on his own accord. Caleb and to distance himself from his disappearance she began. We accept that Kevin was simply gone because he wanted to be, however, Evans family does not feel the same way while Kevin had his, differences and issues with those he loved over the course of his life there. Nothing leading them to believe that he would just walk away from those who cared about forever. What they would, however, in their investigation, would be a series of strange possibilities as to what happened to Kevin. That day. What truly happened? A kevin graves on July. First, two thousand eighteen amerika and from wondering this is episode. One hundred and sixty six of the vanished kevin graves story

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Once said music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable. Some people relate deeply to music. It helps connect. People but, more importantly, it can be a comfort to a person in their darkest times. Twenty eight world Kevin graves was an individual who had a deep admiration and appreciation for music. So much so that he frequented large music festivals, the type of music fast was that Kevin would attend were not just one day. Events they spend many days on July. First, two thousand keen kevin was attending a music festival with his girlfriend caleb and their mutual friends at some point during the first well kayla and Kevin allegedly got into an argument that caused Kevin to welcome From keller, never to be seen or heard from again, but before we, I've into the details surrounding his disappearance. We need to go back to the beginning, who

was Kevin graves for this episode. We had the opportunity to speak Kevin's father Gary and his sister Kelly here, is Gary speaking of his relationship with Kevin and what he was like growing up. He was very stubborn, but he was still a good kid. He was very polite to people. Everybody loved him I mean nobody in the family. I didn't think he was worse. There were killed what with him, was the one I can remember thanksgiving. He always had a prayer known at dinner, somethin. My wife this year really must be bothered. There was the first time twenty eight years, so he in trouble like most good do and are grown up, but nothing that serious it.

it couldn't be handle he gave me a hard then give me a lot of great here, but I still got a lot of feeling for the boy in it was easy whatever I teach him, he wouldn't forget. Being good mechanic, it could be a carpenter, the labour do anything he likes to learn things. I've given will analyse and there's nothing you can't fix. You said that you know my dad's, not against so people have how many times you think of my dad will he brings it to me and I fix it, and he takes it back to you, know, says see I told you he was just a good kid. He enjoyed doing things.

He loved his mother. He always called didn't call texture same thing with his sister, Then I always get talk, call me to get a lot of advice. Should I do you shouldn't well, you got truth. I wouldn't do it my way explain to me why me ok, before he went on his trip, but his girlfriend I'll, be back on monday I get the rest the weaker for, come over and move you some things done me. We got the cabinet is she doing at the moldings and stuff up there, and I said that sounds like a good idea. Just the two of us visa, just the two of us size, okay, That was why the word for all haven't heard word from them. Kevin was close to his loved ones, but like any family, they all had their differences.

Gary was not a fan of the fact that Kevin smoke marijuana, but despite that, he knew Kevin was a great person here Heavens, older sister Kelly, giving a similar sentiment of what type of person Kevin was Kevin, is about sure younger than me We have an older half the stern, an older half brother that did not live in the same house I sit with my dad's second marriage. My dad had his own business as a mechanic, and my mom worked for the state we went to a lutheran school Kevin actually went to the public high school there and we just grew up. While we celebrated holidays, family, big family, we had dinner, I never remember being with how we never wanted for anything. We certainly weren't spoiled, but we we lived just a normal middle

life. Heaven is a very. he's a very emotional person. He loved really really hard when he loves he loves hard and when he sat, he got really sad. So that was evident in his adolescent years, and he did have a hard time paying attention school. He wasn't very book smart, but he could I mean he could take up her anything and put it back together. Just like my dad and he's very he was just very, very good mechanic. I moved away, went to college and he was so listen how emotional cabin why He was so emotional that I had last that I came back that very same weakened with a friend just grabs, more stuff forgot, cause it was about an hour away and when he walked

and the door. He saw me and he just cried, because he was so surprised. To see me any. He already met me so much that's how hard he loves. He was typical teenage adolescent boy got into your basic trouble, nothing serious, but you know Make poor decisions are teenagers and young adults, but nothing terrible worked out. My dad shop in dearborn again and just doing sire jobs, and he worked at auto part stores. He would do jobs on the side. He worked tat, roush racing for a short period of time with my older brother can that ended, and then he worked at detroit. arrow airport for awhile, basically just doing like here

you know lifting and handiwork kind of stuff. He tried going to a college, but it just wasn't he it just wasn't his thing. He did not do well with the book studies and the basic courses you had to do so that just he was not that kind. Of a student he's more of a trait ghoul learning by hand and learning betrayed the things that you know like plumbers and electricity and stuff like wilder's at the time of it disappearance Kevin was dating a woman named Keller killer had children that cabin adored the pair awry at the electric forest music festival. On the afternoon of june. Twenty seventh, the electric forest music festival, has been Since two thousand and eight the festival takes place on a twelve hundred acre ranch. Thousands of people from all over the world come to light into electronic and jam band music. The events typically last five day street or split up

to back to back weekend events depending on the year. Twenty seventh, two thousand and eighteen, was a wednesday when Kevin and tailor made their way to the event they had intent to stay at the festival until its end that weekend occur into one story that was told about the event, Kevin and care, I got into a fight this We changed a few times, but generally caleb told authorities that Kevin was acting strangely and slightly erratic. He confronted her some jealousies he was experiencing and the pair began to argue Kevin alleged. Please stormed away from her, and that was the last case. Law would ever see him leading up to the event Heaven showed no signs to his family that he had intended to leave his life behind. In fact, he appeared to be in a great mood. Nothing seemed out of place. Things were good when he left he speaks of my mom or spoke with my mom every day. I would

at least get a phone call on the way when he was on his way to work. Because up from my kid for napping- and he would call me earth suddenly attacks- and let me know he was thinking about me and that he missed me. I remember specifically, he left on a wednesday the one day before he went missing. I spoke in that tuesday and Kevin was an atheist, even though we grew up going to church He just didn't really. He thought life was bad and why would god make life? bad. If there is a god and he so great why that was his mentality. So I had just randomly stumbled across the video of how to describe why god is real soon. atheist and me being a strong christian active in the church.

and what have you in bible studies and what not I I struggle with that too. I even have my doubts, though, when I saw this video it took me back and I said, in the city. I said, come it's about an hour long, it doesn't cost you anything. Can you just watch it, and he said he. I watched it at work tonight so I want to see you and have him one day when that, when our day comes, I want to see you in havana. You know you don't have to give money that the turks you don't have to go to church. All you have to do is believe, and I was very like not pushy, but I just I was very emotional about at nice. I really just just please watch it. He called me the next day and when he got up to the first of all on that wednesday, and he said I watched that video that you sent me last night and I really want to talk to you about it. I was blown away that he even brought it up and that he even launched it, and so I said that

gray in. He said I'll. Call you one day when I get back, and I set off for me, said: have a great time be safe. make good decisions. any of us if you need something so be now the day that was the one day in the afternoon every day, leading up until his disappearance, the following sunday, you would suddenly attacks just saying I love you says I hope you're having a good day which was not out of the ordinary, for to do he and his girlfriend had been having, I think, some trust issues, and I Cabin was suspicious of the things that either didn't happen, I dont know because only she The truth to that, but-

leave- he was a little upset about something that may have happened that he saw or heard about, or maybe he was just over thinking it. So I think he went up there with that in mind as well and they up there with another couple were not a couple, but another male and female cabinet at suspicion that male and his girlfriend cabins. Girlfriend calla had had a relationship I believe he was really nervous about that. Everything seemed to be fine He was up there. He texted, like more mall, just seem to be here you got time. They are posting pictures on facebook in a better understanding of the type of event. That Kevin was that with his girlfriend. Here's kelly speaking about their perception of what the electric forest music festival was like called the electric forest in it

turn against music and usually associated when people think of this kind of music and activities that usually associated with like a dog. drug marijuana. Ecstasy, even acid- I'm not sure it's not something that I was into, but I know that We enjoyed the music whether or not he did. Those drugs on a regular basis is Smoking marijuana is not something that I am sure of. I don't think so. Gary went on to speak about what kind of security was at this event drug use. We found out it a lot of their security up their police officers off duty. Please Wizards up there, you know they're doing it for extra money they can make. But you know they're still, there's law be improved.

We need the sun, dial, nine or woman on it. Those down no gibraltar, you can hear her son got it back broke. They robbed men atm machine after he got some money out of their name the eleven arm and broke his back. They took him to do content. There check them all out everything. When I talk to her last, she told me He took them too. Hospital. He spent a few weeks there before they could transform back home and he still not right Well, most people who attend the festival are therefore a peaceful and fun weekend of enjoying music, with other festival attendees out of the estimated thirty thousand people who were there the weekend that Kevin disappeared, please

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That Kevin could have left the event without anyone noticing which way he went or if he went off with other people with the amount of people walking through this area seems nearly impossible to figure out where Kevin may have gone. It's also difficult to get eye witness accounts. The accurately portray what happened this Particular music festival was known to have a lot of drugs, particularly psychedelic ones so it would put to be challenging to interview individuals from a third party and trust the account. What is curious at the time line of events, according to the people who were with Kevin at the event, is slightly different depending on who is asked thing like times and the last time they saw Kevin did not match up with other stories being told. What we do know is that Kevin withdrew. two hundred dollars out of a joint checking account that he and his girlfriend shared somewhere between one and two p m on the day he went missing. I was co.

is about what killer Kevin's girlfriend had to say about what transpired that day, but when we reached out to kill us, she declined to be interviewed, So what we have is the word of Kevin's family as to what happened that day, which was relate to them by those who were with Kevin it shows walked away the guy an argument about somethin all she said you back to the car, barrier he's gonna go into the park was the other two. Engineer, so let us go back to her again what we need and come back here. Meat, and we're going together, you know. Well, they came back gone, never saw him again made plain search form all night long, but it seems funny that if this happened the way they said it did Their time lines are all wrong because he's

at drawn money out of the eighty unleashing of what to honour dollars. Now is I think they sit on one or two o clock in the afternoon. I went on hand called bathed in everything else getting information from the only thing I could get information on was stuff My name was on whether there was about it his girlfriend. Had I join a cow. And they used it supposedly for paying bills and stuff, and I was with a greater union but vague craig union didn't give you any information could see only added her name. Isn't gonna make it for me to find anything I'll shoot. Active on the accounts but took all the money you you'd every bit of it while it may seem strange taylor would use all the money in the accounts that she shared with Kevin.

There may be a reasonable explanation for this taylor would later how kelly that she continued to pay off loans that Kevin had end. Bills, so he would not default on anything after a while made sense that the accounts would be severely depleted, especially since Kevin was not around to input more money into them. However, In the situation and the mysteriousness that is surrounding his disappearance, its undressed interval why this would appear to be suspicious, while speaking with Kelly we asked her. When was the last time she had spoken to Kevin that weakened the last message. He sent me ways at one, fifty five p m Sunday July first, and it said something to the fact there was a few typos by it's all good cow, everything's gonna be all right. I love you. I love you the most. I love you, the most he sighed anne, he said

something very strange to my dad, but it didn't make a lot of sense. We're still trying to figure out what that might mean we're just still trying to figure it out. Kelly sent us the last text messages that her family received from cabin and they odd She mentioned that her father got a weird one on the day of Kevin's disappearance. The text was received. at seven fifty five, a m and read: I love you so much for your service dad. Thank you for your service I'll, be able to pay you some now or day. No one is certain what Kevin meant by this kevin's father. Gary wasn't the marines but its unclear. If that's what he's referring to, it seems like an odd time to mention it, although He had taken some sort of drug. That could be an explanation for a strange message. Several hours later, Kevin's man received a couple messages from him at twelve awake

m. His mother wrote: how are you guys doing at twelve ten? He replied, nothing while the eleven she wrote is everything. Ok and Kevin, responded a minute later with nothing. For an hour later and around the same time that Kevin withdrew two hundred dollars from his bank account kelly got this message: everything's good. I love you the most. whether there is important meaning in these messages. We can't be sure they could be chalked up. being under the influence, or maybe there is something more to them now comes along and that's why they're closing the festival I dont anything from canada, which is not surprising, sometimes went for a few days, and I didn't hear from him the floor one day Kelly receive. the phone call from her mother who was becoming concerned about Kevin. She says I dont want to put this on. You

because I have a lot going on and just regular life, and I said what do you mean? You can't find cabin grown man twenty eight years? So what do you mean? You can't find cabinets? She said we just. We don't know where he is he just walked off somewhere and came can't find him. She called ass. She thought it was. She thought he had wandered off and would have come back, so she didn't think much of it and then you know the next day Can I got a little bit more serious, so evidently she had gone and got her father to come back up there and help search the grounds for cabin. That's part of the story which unfortunately kept changing and keeps changing from her standpoint, The evolution of this whole thing is that when we found out that he was missing and when she's beside herself, she really did. I truly believe she loved cabin she was crying upset.

bring those first few days after Kevin, disappeared, Kelly and kayla decided to call around the hospitals, morgues and jails in the area. I know that she was calling because the people would get mad an annoyed and they would say I know another girl, just called you know it was caleb had called so. I know that she was trying to help us look for him and she was so helpful he's giving us everything. We thought we needed. I posted things on facebook and she was sharing thing about three weeks. And to this whole ordeal, she sent me a message saying that she started to the starting to pack up his things, because they did reside together and highland township

that is where the police report, even though he went missing three and a half hours away? The police report had to be filed with oakland county sheriff department in south eastern michigan right outside detroit, because that's where he lived so, unfortunately, the communication between date police officers up there trying to help it's not always easy. So she was very helpful in the beginning and then things kind of started to take a turn where I don't know why. I didn't think about this at first, but I was so intent that where could he be that I didn't think to ask these questions because I'm not tactile by she had given me the names and the phone numbers of the people that went with her. Their names were J. The angel she gave me their full names and therefore numbers and they broke with me by attacks and they answer my car

from. They never interrogate them, but they did respond to me. You know it didn't seem like they had anything to hide, but once I started asking like war gosh, you know If we could only have his records incoming and outgoing phone calls and outgoing text messages that might help that might help establish somebody else that may have spoken to him, but because it was in her mother's name, had to get permission from her and her mother. In order to obtain knows now, we never asked for Caleb by we wanted cabins because he wanted to see who else he would have spoken to end once we kind of started asking questions like that: she's got a little defensive, and I think a lot of stress was getting to her- and I think rightfully so- story got out on facebook. All over the place. I mean it was shared tens of thousands of times, and people were

they mean things about her and I truly do feel bad for her I do have a lot of family members. That would say a lot worse things about her. I don't know it's true, true or not, but she has two children the night. I wouldn't want to say anything like that publicly, unless I knew for sure when she penance inadvertently refuse to give what kinds of things to us it it it kind of just set off alarm bells like. Why? Wouldn't you just it's not going to tell us what he said and those it'll just at least give us some numbers and a timeline and stop, and she she wouldn't she wouldn't give it to us, and when I got more persistent on it she got really defensive and this is a girl who we spoke every day about Kevin like what are we going to do next? How are we going to do this? She would go on the search parties with my family. She would drive back and forth. Multiple times a week, going up in searching for him in the surrounding areas. I couldn't see wife

but he would I mean she took off time from work and she could have gotten in she could have gotten fired. I mean she really went above and beyond. I felt my father, who also felt the same way that she was being helpful. She even paying his evening what was left of his work check turkey, making payments on his alone so that he wouldn't default. So when you think about that kind of stuff, it doesn't seem like that's a person anything to hide. But then people started thing really awful things about her and I think the stress got to her and she just decided to cut all of us out of her life. I mean we're talking blocked from facebook blocked our phone call a sheet had friends that would send me mean facebook months ago, and it was

to hear in they would say terrible things about cavern, where we can help him that he was such a drug addict in other, but her story kept kind of changing, so our searches started out looking for it went one day to the other like we were looking for a body and then we would sing the friendly one, maybe or maybe you overdosed- or something- and maybe he's just lying in the woods somewhere in dead. Maybe he just wandered off with these people that go to the fact of all and just tap trains and go to the next festival and that's how they live. I cannot believe that cabin would do something like this, because he was so close with that cabin was very loved you, I guess the best way to describe his soul. He was just the kind and gentle soul, but when he got sad, you know it hurt,

your heart, because he so sweet it strange that multiple stories didn't match up as to what happened that day. Could it be an instance miss remembering, or is there something that K le Kevin's friends or trying to hide. We made a flyer up and under the circumstances that had said like got into an argument with his girlfriend, and one of the story is, was it said that he went back to the ten and later was found to not be there and then another story that she told me was that cabin and james walked off to one of the festival shows after he in Cuba had had an argument and they walked after Festival shows together and James even told open county sheriff sergeant bach. That James was the last person to see him. He said cabin was just acting erratic and ripping off his armed bands and just

walked off. There's two different stories there. One of them was that he was both be back at the ten. The other one was that he got upset and walked off and K law went to the tenth take now in nothing really make sense and whenever you would ask them they will get defensive, so it was hard to get anything else out of them. For this episode, we were able to with oakland county sheriff sergeant David bach, about what the authorities don t, try, locate Kevin accordingly, sergeant back the jurisdiction. Kevin went missing is not the one handling his case because lived in highland michigan, the police. There are the ones who have taken the lead on the investigation where he lives he lives in highland michigan. I'm kind of on the east side of the state where he went missing from us on the west side of the state and the michigan state police I have jurisdiction over that area. They went over to this means that for me, the festival on the west side of the state he walked away from his girlfriend

girlfriend comes back to where I am on the east side, my jurisdiction and reports of missing now into the missing persons on adjusts, nome he's gonna come back, but he hasn't shown up in any way, so others kind of incident here, but there's a whole other end. You know the search and all that and the music festival doesn't even happen in my jurisdiction. I just I just know from it from what the internet shows me. There's nothing appears to be nefarious about his disappearance in any way. Use of the music first organic already with his girlfriend, men walked away and there have been heard from sense sergeant, bach interview taylor, but it appears that both believe the cavern just walked away from the life that he knew or forgot his girlfriend lives in highland. Last time I spoke with her. You know we sat and talked for an hour and a half

and then the angeles like. I don't want anything to do with them. I don't want anything to do with his dad. His dad keeps bugging me. He walked away from me and she's, like I'm done with him. He walked away from me. Why I'm not going to sit around and wait for him forever? If your view on it and that's more than fair, they weren't married they've, not have any children in common. She owned the house here. So you know I don't blame her. I would do the same thing, It's always talk to me. She goes. I have no problems dealing with you, but because I'm tired of dealing with his dad and his family and all this other stuff. I didn't do anything he left me, so I don't want bothering me. I want to move forward but life Jim Bach went on to speak about the culture of the music festival and the activity that typically goes on at those types of offence. You don't need, first of all, if know,

If you go there to listen to music and do drugs, that's why you go there. That starts with the whole music festivals, based on his going there and you're doing drugs there as well. That's the music they listen to that the subculture therein and that's the music festival. They go to you know that doesn't make it any easier. Trying to you know there. They weren't, you know, he's not an executive at general motors and she works as a nurse. You know, so that's one of the things about this as well. It seems as though there is a slight hint of stigma floating around this investigation due to the culture that Kevin was a part of yes, there was, You said this event, but does I mean his disappearance should be deemed less important sergeant fuck knows the family wants answers but his mind a set on the fact that Kevin walked away willingly, something that the only does not believe he would have done for this amount of time and what a talking about what you're doing in year old girl. You know talk about a grown adult who too

it's the ability to walk away. If they'd, like you know again like I said he lives in that subculture. I've talked to some of his friends who someone will think he moved over, tried moving to california or something so you talked about going out there and fricking growing weed. So you know that doesn't make it any easier. You know like I said he didn't own a house. His vehicle was broken down and I've got people asking well did she. im out there and barium or what, if he overdosed out there, I go well. If he overdosed out there, people overdose all the time across the us. They called nine one, one thirty music festival with lot of drugs being used. I'm sure there was multiple overdoses there. They call the paramedics and get the proper medical you're, not at a festival with three thousand people. He overdoses and no one's looking at various body out there. That's so you know when I explain that I'm, like you know you gotta think logically, here about what could have occurred. I don't know what happened beyond answer. I don't know I don't.

where he is any area than anything is obviously a possibility, but just out of speculation and people for allowed. There is very just opinionated Jenin, general speculation. You know when they ask about his girlfriend. I go what's her motive. They weren't married, no kids. She owns the house. What's her motivation to murder to to take him all the way across the other side of the state and murder him at a festive. Why would she modem ear the le? Why would she murmured anyways? There's no life insurance policy on there's no I tried to get out of a bad relationship for not married, so united, what's the motivation for her to even do anything to him that no one can answer that. So but again, you know wild speculation so easy to throw barbs and speculation at things. Without you know, using they searched that their whole area. There I talked to the it's on a two thousand eager kind of farm,

do different events out there. They do a camping out there, where there's then use that to guys like dune at the end of the festival, those places destroyed. We have to go through and clean everything up. We've been over every inch of this place, they, the michigan state police dogs go out there, they even had some other divers gold gonna under you know the shore under the water and nothing would located anyway. Among the dive team, and I know what somebody drowns they're, they're gonna flow provides gonna flow from the gases. All I know is not drown out there sitting on the bottom pond filled. that'll area than search very thoroughly by mission, state police volunteers. Back his girlfriend, caille went out there and held I never thought he was there and there's no reason. You know they searched it, and I mean everybody seems to at this point now think he's not there, which I you know firmly believe it almost keen on or their skin, which has a large trans european.

inhalation as well as homeless persons living there. You know that was where peoples first started kind of seeing him, but those dried up and KEN Kevin's, very generic looking person as well. There's nothing really that really stands out I'll be there soon after Kevin went missing, caleb packed up his belongings later told sergeant back that she found syringes amongst his things indicating her that he was partaking. A more than just recreational drug use. Weather it is true or not. We can't be certain authorities took note. The heavens. Wallet and cellphone have the missing and were most click on him the day he disappeared, no activity has occurred on any of his accounts, including Transactions or social media posts, his cell phone has also not been used. Finally, He asked sergeant back if he believed Kevin was still alive or if something more sinister has happened to him. That, I believe, is george you

Can I talk to some people? Another Am I m, like you, talk to mom and dad every day, but then I thought people, like that, I wouldn't I close with family, so it is harder judge on exactly what the truth is everybody's got their version of it here. The families gutters cutie version of it The beginning there they wanted to keeping okay, we did something I got well. What would you Why? Why would she do it? What do you think she did and thereby water? Well, I don't know either I've nothing, the debtor speaking whether I don't. I don't send that you'd lying to me and I have no reason to think that she's lying to me and there is no motive. I don't. I do not see a motive. That is a large part of it. I don't see a motive here in any way. You know I've. I've talked to the state police who are down the west side there like every year, people go missing from this place

turn up, but we have always said that every year from an old missing and they turn up you know. I got a killer, dad and they're telling me you know they think he did walk away because They were explained to me that there is a legend out there at this festival of a gentleman in Karl that fully disappeared from their years ago. The ends part of it is you walk around yemen to cairo and you know what kind of war you're telling me that they ve got feeling is from statements. Kevin made is that you wants to be part of that lore of disappearing from there I do. I wish I knew where Kevin was, for my sake, for everybody's sake. I wish I knew where he was. I wish I did but right now every search engine that I've run and everybody a party or I dont, worry that the look and start why I'm gonna go get all these

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Kevin's family members haven't been too happy with the investigation. Thus far, they believe Kevin has been put on the back burner and that the authorities believe he just walked away willingly. Finally, when I went up there to michigan about a month after he disappeared, I am talking on the phone to the south and on the case sergeant back- and I asked him- and I said you know, have you spoken to the other two people that war with cabin when he disappeared? he said I didn't know that there was anybody else that was with them, and I said: well, you didn't ask caleb when she made missing person report. When you were at her house, you didn't ask her and he said no and the fact that she has month before. Given me their names and phone numbers, she was not hiding that

and I had already talk to them and known that you know their parts- the story, though, for a month later for me to have to tell the person taking the case that there are other people with him and that he failed to even enquire about that kind of a situation which is ridiculous to me, and it made me feel like they just were treating it as this. Oh he's just just some, user, that party the little too hard and wandered off or overdose, or something like that. That is truly how my family fields, and so some people are thinking that maybe he just was real we overwhelmed with life, and he just said screw it. I'm just gonna somewhere and start over. And then there were other times. Will we think that he may be of overdosed and would laying on a debate that somewhere? So we did our searches we would search with. Are you know?

stacks and everything. I mean you search every inch of the ground in nothing changes. You more than searching for your brother's dead body and they describe to you what you would see in what you now- and it is just such a surreal experience- I I I never be the same. After that. I was curious. there have been any sightings of Kevin at all from someone other than the people he was with during the music festival during one of the searches. When I was able to purchase the pay up, there We were at the camp where we have the time learn everything and we were eating lunch, a woman pull that and she said to us. Can I see a flyer of this missing of this person because she saw us are staging there and she said that the guy in were like who's, the guy that like what do you mean

she said that I was having dinner with my mother and family and A younger man came in with and was idea. We on drugs and was asking for more money for food, so she didn't give him any money but- he's made a note of it. You know- and I think other people may have given him money, but it happened to be your bow just a couple miles away from where the festival was and so immediately are, search and rescue leader got on his car and went to that mexican restaurant and he spoke

with an employee there that set the exact same thing and described him the exact same way, and both women had reported that the young man had said my girlfriend and her dad dumped me dumped me here, and they use the exact same words. So at that point, in both of them looked at cabins picture and said that that with him now, caverns average. Looking michigan white guy, you know, like light skin medium build sandy born

hair blue eyes. I mean he looks like every other caucasian guy facial hair. You know so it's easy for people to say. Yes, I think I saw him. I mean I received hundreds of pictures and I like it, I'm sorry it's close, but it's not him, though. That's when we kind of our mindset change too. He is dead too. He is alive, but where, like, where is he saying, where did he go? It is a complete and utter mystery. I I can see where my mind would trail. Oh my gosh like he. What? If you just ran off and he's working. Marijuana, grow farm somewhere cause. He was. He had a medical you wanna licence, He he was very interested and stuff like that and it it really helped his his mental status. I mean it was something that worked for him when he got the medical grade. The right strains- and it really did

Alpen. So he was very interested in an and maybe he just went out to like a crow farmed somewhere in colorado. California, and maybe he's just working, and things like that will go to my mind. But then I think how could he not call, but I grew up in a time where he was just just over that hump where memories so numbers anymore. You had them on your cell phone now. I can tell you my entire family so number, because I too have to dial it, but cabin might not know my mom cell phone number. He might not know mine, but they are, many different ways that he could have reached out or this story has gotten all the way to california and organ, and for somebody to have not seen him, This blows my mind.

the potential citing of Kevin the family finally had some hope that he was alive. However, the theory that would come out next the came to his whereabouts, was something they were not expecting. Someone informed the family that Kevin may have joined a group called the twelve tribes. There was at one point: a an idea that He may have gone where they wouldn't call themselves the courts, but by every other meaning of the word. It's called the twelve tried and the twelve tribes there very private and me reportedly and admittedly go to festivals of this kind kind of looking for lost souls are people who are just last meeting some direction, eating thumb needing a way out of their drug habits and they too,

then in and give them shelter in food in return for work like whether it be one of their dolly's or work on us and they're all over the place, and I called so many of them. And most of them were very nice. they listen to me and a few, even me back after they did what they said investigating to see. If there were any of their bosses, they are called like the double decker buses that are up there in the south. I was looking for people to help now, whether or not like some people would argue that these twelve tribes will they'll say that they drug people to keep them there. That is not what I have come to believe or find out from talking to these people, but there is one in michigan

a couple hours from where he disappeared in. I called them first and I spoke to them, are search and rescue leader, my father in another gentleman, went to the farm a few weeks ago looked around and see all of their employees, and I mean other picked there's everything and none of them were cabin. They Unfortunately, we were able to find out that one of their buses was up at them. This music festival and other festival goers have told me that, yes, we saw one of their bosses up there, so I dont know what to believe I've called the twelve tribes everywhere. I called colorado. I've called California, I called pennsylvania, vermont missouri,

and they don't seem to really be close to each other, like they don't seem to really know the goings on between each but it's easy for them to connected wanted to so one gentleman from colorado he caught he. I called him on a saturday easily, let me do some checking around for you. I got I'll make some phone calls and- and I think you sure, like you're, really gonna get back to me. He called me three days later and he said you know I've called everywhere and I don't have any evidence of a bus being up there. He said, and I am really sorry if you want to email me a picture of him. I will definitely keep an eye out in case he ever wanders in so that ended up being a dead end. They say that they look for or they welcome, loss,

souls, and so they specifically sometimes I want I target, but they specifically go to these sorts of festival. But you know hoping or just being available to help people who are either I'm depressed or on drugs and want to get off and they offer them comforts like air conditioning food, water and people who don't like the twelve tribes would argue, that they draw them and they dont let you leave, but I actually had a remember that contacted me and said they are not mean they don't keep people there against their will, and then the twelve tribe leaders that I had spoken to you on the phone that set the pace. Drug free community and people were very mixed

he board the kindness that I got from them. When I was asking them my question, it did not seem like they. They did get on the defence. They were very nice, like I said, most of them were turned. My phone calls are the ones that did say they were gonna call me back after checking. They definitely dead. They have a differ We have dressing, unlike the women cover. Ah then stuff like that, but for I gathered from our investigator as they are well like in the community, so I tried to give them benefited the dow, especially since they were so kind to me, is a person. All that Kevin would have found comfort from such a group accord the cabin sister Kelly he did struggle with some undiagnosed mental health issues that may have. The cause of his erratic behaviour at the festival, he What kind of have you don't want?

How am hallucinations but delusions- and over the paranoia word. I dont believe he was gets a frantic, but he was deceived repair, annoyed and think somebody's watching him or thinking things are happening that are which kind of ties back into. Maybe he was thinking that things were happening with taylor in this other guy that what we were well, maybe he did walk in and then doing something in it. Just totally set him off and maybe he walked off into got real test and walked off, but James had actually told. I have the note right here on august, thick sergeant, bach called new back in said that he had spoken to jane in dream said that

he was the last to see cabin. There was no argument that cabin was being weird in moody, ripped off his wrists bans and walked away. He walked away from the tent cabinet james, he described them as good friend and he said that cabin was an excellent mechanic, like those are the things that he said to the sergeant, so that kind of twists around cables story where she originally had said that he was in the tent was it was not there anymore. So they tell me that when they were there that saturday that they were getting some food or something, and she and angel or talking about something and Kevin, came up to them and with like stop talking and code like, I know You're talking about like cheating on me or something like that and shoot

me this and she said Kelly. He was just going kind of bizarre which who knows who knows what kind of drugs he took in june. I believe her like that part of her story never changed that he thought that she was cheating on him, just nothing is making sense. She's, not a person of interest at all. I'm not saying that she did anything wrong, but I truly You like she knows more than why she's telling us and if we could just get the mindset of where cabin may have been at that moment like where he may have been thinking like if he was freaked out about what he saw between her and somebody out. Maybe we could understand more, but we don't want all. We asked Kelly if she's had any recent contact with Caleb too

to her about cabin. She won't speak to me. She said that people call their alike heroin, attic dan. You know, and she said you know I saw the father that live in the community. I kid that go miss community, Your family is ruining my wife and I said I'm talking to her the same way. I'm talking to you right now and I'm just cite killer. I did not say these things about you. What we talk about behind closed doors, my family, that far right, but I can tell you that I've never called you at a heroine act in a drug addict. If that is not me, and I cannot control other people say, but I still don't believe that she did anything militia violent or anything like that. I just think that there is more to the story, so what happened? Kevin graves on July, first, two thousand eat. Eighteen did he walked

way from the life he knew due to an argument with his girlfriend. Kayla did Kevin plant. away from his life because he wanted to become part of the lure of the festival. Like coral did, he joined a group called the twelve try. I was in hopes that it would better his life or did something darker happened to him like a drug overdose or an act of violence we never know the answer. The best we can do I hope that some day we will find out the truth and give those who love Kevin. The answers they deserve at the time of his death parents, Kevin graves, was described as having blonde hair and blue eyes. He stands at sea. Feet tall and around one hundred and eighty five pounds. There is key leah- ten thousand dollar reward for information regarding his whereabouts. Anyone. With information about the disappearance of Kevin graves is asked to call the open county sheriff's office at two. Forty, eight five, eight, four, nine. five out you can

so called michigan state heart post to three one, eight, seven, three, who won seven one, He was a functioning member of the he pages tat. He had a good job. He help take care of his family, which was you know k in her cat. You know he was a productive member of society I know my son was in April, but he was a double. We Things wrong. You didn t. That wrong. a criminal or anything like tat. He was the type a guy, god heard somebody for something it is Wasn't wired that way. I dunno. What else I can tell you, except that I love them and are doing, came again and walk up to me.

But molly stood taken in we hope- and I need to know in the door on yeah yeah don't know what to do I just don't know why, if he's alive, I dont know why just leave. Maybe like a man may be. for tonight for him to kiss not. I think that we care and want to know where he's at if he's alive. I just right. My head around in Heaven forbid It went on. His had and died. In one way or another. I truly feel he wouldn't have made it far

We would have found his body hunting season. His body in a field where shirley the tourists going to find it and I truly feel that I truly feel like he is alive, but just without a trace people that I haven't both to an years. You know contact me on facebook and not even front with any more, and they said I stumbled across this, and I made the connection back that this is your brother. No, I'm! So sorry it. Like all pointed to people like going back to school with the kids this time this year. You know people see more. People in me always ask how you are in

they know that you're hurting, but you don't know how to respond, because who do you know that on missing. the. The And

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