48-year-old Kathleen Mohn was last seen at her home in the Gulph Mills section of Upper Merion Township, Pennsylvania on the evening of December 3, 1999. Kathleen had intended on spending the weekend in Levittown, Pennsylvania, just about a 40 minute drive from her home. At this time in her life, Kathleen was living with her husband, Thomas Mohn. After over 20 years of marriage, the two had become estranged and had begun openly seeing other people, but they still remained living under one roof. Kathleen had spent most weekends with her boyfriend in Levittown and this weekend in early December was no different. Her husband has said that she left the house around 9PM that evening but she never made it to her destination and her car was later found abandoned in Tullytown, PA.
For the past 19 years, the police have had one suspect in mind, but their evidence is circumstantial. What they are certain of is that Kathleen didn’t just walk away from her life, the believe that she is a homicide victim. They just need that key piece of evidence to bring her killer to justice.
If you have any information about the disappearance of Kathleen Mohn please call the Upper Merion Police Department at 610-265-3232.
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it's a missing person, but we all know what it is Thomas
forty eight year old, kathleen moon. This last seen at her home in the gulf meals. Section of upper marian township pennsylvania on the evening.
of December third nineteen. Ninety nine kathleen had intended on spending the weekend in left home Pennsylvania just about,
forty minute drive from her home
this point in her life. Kathleen was living with her husband, Thomas moon after
Twenty years of marriage, the two would become estranged and the pair had been openly seeing other people
but they still remained living under one roof. Catholic
had spent most weakens with her boyfriend in Levitt town, and this weekend in early december, was no different.
Husband claims that she left the house around nine p m this evening, but she never made it to her destination and her car was later found abandoned for the poor,
nineteen years the police have had one suspect in mind, but their evan,
is circumstantial
but there are certain of, though, is that Kathleen didn't just walk away from her life. They believe
that kathleen was murdered.
they just need that key piece of evidence to bring her killer to justice.
Amerika, and from wondering this is episode. One hundred and fifty three of the vanished kathleen moons story.
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and with an array of scenarios, sometimes we are bestowed with little to no information as to what happened to a person at best,
facts we few and far between
their cases, we have an abundance of information,
occasions times even evidence pointing authorities in the direction of answers but unfair
currently still lacking an essential detail that will put us on the path to closure
The latter is the exact situation that the family and friends of Kathleen moon are in on this.
In third nineteen, ninety nine catholic,
it plans to go, spend the weekend with her boyfriend in left town. However,
At first she was thinking about cancelling her weakened away
she wanted to get a head start unwrapping christmas presents, but ultimately
She decided to go visit, her boyfriend, who had convinced her just bring the gifts with her and they could wrap them together.
kathleen would never make it too Levitt town on December. Third, by this
the fifth katharine's boyfriend, Robert Lindore, decided to call tom to make sure she was all right.
The pair had never spoken before this moment, but given the
back that robert was concerned about Kathleen, he decided to swallow any uncomfortable ness that may come from this interaction and call a cab.
Tom Kathleen had left around nine p m on the third.
And he assumed that she was at windows home that weekend,
the two men spoke tom, contacted the police to report kathleen missing
Ten days after Kathleen was last seen alive,
Ass you ve was found abandoned in a K, sea parking lot entirely town, pennsylvania
This was just minutes from her boyfriend's home. According
two employees at the restaurant. The car had been there since at least december fifth
upon further examination of the vehicle authorities noted that incite suv were kathleen glasses, medicine and purse. How,
her wallet and the christmas gift. She had allegedly been traveling with work on later
Lee spent hours going over video surveillance from the nearby pennsylvania turnpike they spotted.
happens: suv, leaving the turnpike at the bristol exit around nine. Fifty four a m on december forth, the date
after her husband said she had laughed when they
a closer look? They saw what they believe to be a blonde woman, leaning against a passenger side window, and only
The arm of the driver can be made out. Clearly
a better idea of what may have happened to Kathleen. We need to go back and examined the things that are going on in her life in the time leading up to her disappearance. These
the things that the police believe paint a clear picture of one person who had a motive to harm kathleen, some one who,
benefit from her just disappearing.
Athletes was very close with her family. They all made.
wait to be part of each other's lives.
Pleasure of sitting down with Kathleen brother, frank and his daughter, Cathy, for this episode here is for
Talking about his beloved sister Kathleen, my sister,
she was my only sibling
so, while we very close grown up
I'm even though she was six years old when I was
when sheaf folly, Mary Tom Tom mon
Report house up engulf bills,
and they live their sister cat.
And have children so
we're. Still we stay very close and
When I got married had children
by two daughters, Kathleen, whose name better a sister, Cathy and eighty four very close to her.
And she treat him like their own daughters and even though we lived
we saw let the moment in
gulf mills help I or more are. We were still got every weekend visit.
Mr Poul or she will come down and typically,
we got there may be up like on Saturday. Those with her go swimming in
in summary summer season, then
My mama passed away.
She will come down every weekend and spend dumb.
sundays in Monday's with my father ass, he led the love so why,
Which he d live maybe up tomorrow for most of the time,
So we will meet at my dad's housel sunday night now offer a long time. She was grey purse.
I am sure my confidence army me for years I mean the person was wont to when it issues. Of course, I talk to
after kathleen and tom got married, Tom went to school, for dentistry and after graduating he opened up his own practice in ard, more pennsylvania kathleen were
as an x, ray tech at a local hospital engulf meals.
but about a year before her disappearance. She was laid off. This is
she began working at times office.
throughout my research on this case, it was apparent that Tom and Kathleen began to drift apart at some point,
kathleen, went to consult with the divorce attorney.
was curious if those close to Kathleen knew what was going on within her relationship with Tom.
I knew they were happy.
She never really mentioned divorced me, but I know she wasn't happy with tom
surely all I knew I r
She meant you. She had a friend.
This is the gentleman alive that, in an arm personal p,
she really to elaborate on exactly what,
with him to me. Calf
His father stated to the associated press in two thousand to that a week before
happily went missing tom,
down on his hands and knees and begged her not to go through with her plans, because it would bankrupt him. On december.
Third, ninety, ninety nine kathleen worked a shift at Tom's dental practice.
then made her way back home. After
debate. She decided to go to love a town for the weekend to see your boyfriend Robert Lindore, but kathleen
would never make it their, while speaking with frank
daughter, Cathy. I wondered
but the last time they had spoken to Kathleen. I probably spoke to her
I can't remember exactly
are we had a lot of come phone calls back and forth. There is probably right before she was useless. Come down that sunday.
I know it's coming up on christmas and we prob talked about gifts were cathay, namely christmas, guests and tom.
with tat would be down their day
zack time reject what we talked about that
Tom Kathleen had left her home and golf mills around nine p m.
de robert lenders, home in Levitt town once it.
apparent that kathleen was missing police,
their best to track her whereabouts.
Eventually they found her car had been spotted on the pennsylvania turnpike at nine. Fifty four, a m on December fourth, cats.
His brother has seen the picture that the surveillance cameras were able to capture
what can be seen in it according to him is afford, explore with a caucasian male driving and what appears
be a blonde herod. Individual slumped over on the passenger side of the vehicle.
Look like her vehicle and then look like a person driving it.
There is less a person than driver side.
All I remember seeing the hand across the top of stern will like that
whoever was driving it just look at me.
A there wasn't a license plate that united could identify with, but surely the explorer there were something there.
If so grand you there you some. I almost had to point that out to look for that.
Because I'm member I first look that picture. Obviously look at the arm and august. First I was looking at was farmer.
correctly reassure sleeve and just like you see the skin the arm and was the caucasian males arm. That looked like to me,
kathleen had intended on visiting her brother, frank and his family. On sunday, however,
They noticed that Kathleen had not called or show not like. She said she was going to do for carefully
and this was something that was highly unusual-
the sunday
evening. I guess
She was always very punctual are coming out sometime it shouldn't come. We didn't hear from her. Think was probably
we are waiting for a probably restaurant ireland caught that night are, we really sorry seems often was wrong. I remember play
outside waiting for her to arrive, kept looking up the street
So I knew my sister, I was only ten, but I remember my sister having a fight with her the week before and my aunt yelled at her. Of course, she was seven she's been bad doing something and she wanted her
He was waiting for her to come because she wanted to talk to her and say she was sorry for being bad the week before
her car just never made that turn around the corner.
was curious to know if Frank ever reached out to tom in regards to catherine's whereabouts. We call that night,
I'm sure we done here
but the house do. We do
Tommy answered insisted,
left left for he said she left Friday night and she went to wrap gifts.
In this house, and of course,
She never showed up there so that one,
think she was reported missing. Firstly, on the third sheet,
appeared. The last night she was seen was friday to some referred.
After filing a missing persons report, frank
and tom went to search for kathleen and her car
my dad took her I'd through looking
the car with tom and
they didn't find it at the time
No, I I was sure what happened, and I really didn't
Speck Tom, our nose issues missing
And somewhere along our found out
disruption lived, and so I said Tom we gotta do something, and so he tom
basically well, some shall turn up or something I can. Someone went to look for work, you know, burgess guy live in
Somehow I found it very lucidly and Bristol P area level town
We rode raffer, probably two hours up and down
what streets,
for a car one.
In the night I went
took a no no. I came home town
reaction to his wife's disappearance seems odd, he
little to no concern, but on the other side of the coin there was also robert Linder and calf.
in car was found just minutes from his residence,
we were able to rule lindore out as a suspect early on in the investigation, based on a few things he passed like
doktor task here is that
why they rolled him out, and he he's the one
called tom concerned about her
showing up
and tom, never seem concerned so that
part of the reason that they are eliminated him. Some new.
Reports have stated that there were air fresheners in Kathleen's car and that this,
unlike her, however,
the family refutes that report due to the fact that
half lean was a smoker. She always kept
air fresheners inner vehicle. However
when her car was eventually located in the case of sea parking lot on december thirteenth,
Stu gaiters discovered something that made them believed that this wasn't just a missing person, but a homicide,
discussed us. We were able to get in touch with retired detective rick game in
he's an investigator who spent much of his career working on Kathleen case.
Have you ever been watching a crime show where a detective talks about a case, the one they wanted to solve before they retired. This is the
said, detective game and wanted so desperately to solve. He began
working the case just ten days into the investigation
even though detective game and retired several years ago and has relocated to another area. The country I was able to
tracking down- and he was eager to help with this episode,
because he still wants to see justice for kathleen
is what he had to say about the car
and that's what the family told us also that she.
although she she was a smoker,
the car always smelt of smoke.
and it was normally massey, but she would clean it up
every weekend. She get it washed and clean cleaned up
when she was visiting her her niece kathy,
our brother in dollar, and well,
found the young
the vehicle or the vehicle is located,
it was? It was pretty queen? It was very immaculate gaban
Detailed on the inside
and there were numerous air fresher fresheners found in it.
We did it took about dollar. One was a theme at all.
It could avid all. You know that they are the ones who go looking for their freedom.
missing persons or bodies and in natural disasters or disasters
and then we also had a thought out police department, our goal,
they both indicated. The presence of
Cadaver was in the car.
We reviewed the valley fortune and made county along the bristol exits.
And some of those mid county they might have fifteen lanes
so we reviewed all the video tapes.
hundreds and hundreds of hours
found one with death.
Definitely the car coming through
bristol exit other taboo,
it appears now even remember now. This was almost
twenty years ago, so
technology is in
as good as it as it is now, and it was on a videotape
and it appears to be
there is a body leaning against me
I guess the passenger side
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thus standpoint, I would
to know how detective game and felt about Robert Lindore as a potential suspect in this case.
Bobby lender Robert Lindner is his name,
more. He was the only one other than until frank down involved that expressed any
concern about the whereabouts academy
he told us- and this was confirmed by capital.
commerce mon. That
he called the house. Forty five times in,
This did not answer the phone because aegis no it wasn't frame was his answer. When we start
doing his alibi investigation,
We actually tightened up
our by better than what he told us. I'm one of that makes sense to you.
He taught us where he had been for, like you know, for these
you know, eight hours
there might have been a little
operation air, where we couldn't
he didn't remember where he was, but we were able to track down through receipts
video, while other video tapes witnessed.
testimony from people
No helmet didn't know him like
He entered a convenience store and I remembered on being there well lindore.
Did not remember that at the time
and he also successfully passed to lady factor tests to bali
ass, we were convinced the pretty early that he was not involved in this whatsoever other than the fact
he was the only one,
expressing any concern about her whereabouts, and
he was genuine. I mean I've talked to him numerous times in person. We could tell that
He was being honest and he was really a caring person for really care for detect
of game and told me more about their knowledge of kathleen intentions to divorce tom. We,
first learned that from
Actually an employee
come on
there was a friend of caddies
and she told us that in the very early any investigation that copy
invited, an error that that shit
consulting an attorney
regarding a divorce and that the attorney had explained to her so
copy had put Tom continue to work while Tom
What the devil school
there. She would be problems
entitled to
and I believe it was like. I don't know, sixty five percent of the business and
a sizeable ma
Thirdly, our money- I believe the number was somewhere
four thousand dollars a month.
She also told that too
make us first wife.
She was aware, but also
when the same numbers and we ve actually spoke. We actually spoke to the attorney
back in the early two thousand and one,
who confirmed the conversation detective,
and also told me about speaking face to face with tom in regards to kathleen disappearance. I got
than a case on the thirteenth.
Of december nike. Ninety nine,
I am, we contacted moaned for the purpose of them an interview. He said
it is a cause right, backward, tell scheduling,
And right away within ten minutes, we wish
the phone call from his attorney.
Is not unusual in our people have attorneys.
but I think that he knew this was coming
restarting the two point. Five m
Could he had a a criminal attorney right away.
Our very first interview was actually only. It was about two hours
and it was.
mostly mainly about background and personal appearance, is incorrect
jurisdiction, financial information and.
by that time. Com
he made no mention at all of the young
the marital discord that they had any
does that she was still seriously drinking
to the point where he saying oh, she was drinking
flavoured marketed to hide the smell of the apple and bread.
Of course you know, as we interview were all her friends in the
any any? I replied that does not change again and the dry.
For a while
right after that and after
did the m
Worn onus on home
Mon just stopped refused to talk to us
And he never never spoke to wear anything
investigators again, why would
state two investigators that
clean had been drinking heavily around the time of her disappearance
was he trying to use her past as a slight against her away.
blame her for her own disappearance. Of course, this
just a theory, and we can't truly be sure why he would bring this up like detective
and previously stated tom has refused to speak with investigator since the early stages of the investigation into kathleen disappearance, however,
After numerous attempts were able to speak with Tom, we can't
The time to give him a chance to comment on catholics case, and this is what he had to say.
to get a new information has come up with
what has been like for him all of these years, not knowing what happened to his wife,
the obvious and tragedy in,
I can really,
operate on that further.
Finally, we asked Tom if there is anything else he wanted to add about his wife or her disappearance
this time, I just heard no new information, it appears
Still. After all this time, Tom has remained tight. Lipped twenties questioned about kathleen disappearance. Well,
We all deal with tragedy differently, his response or lack thereof,
It does seem odd.
My conversation with detective game and I did
if any evidence was found in the moon residents, that would shed light on what happened to Kathleen before she disappeared.
We did remover apiece a dry walk out with some blood.
apples wanted and one it was tested. The wii we
we found out, I was not human blood,
we had a shared and it was forward towards shovels and and picks.
And we were, we examine those tools took samples of the dirt. Unfortunately, the dirt is common, not pretty much.
all up and down his coast. There was nothing
specific about it.
Now, if we had every added some other
The man to it
comparative than we we would. You know
somethin arabic.
there really then amount to anything since
no damning physical evidence was located. I enquired about the actual search for kathleen body. We had searched area.
That we believed
using pretty much good guesses about where aid, where was somewhat higher up, hide a body
now remember now we did have a little bit of a timeline, so
We really have to go that.
Far away from where the where the
I was found there or where we know that she came to the tall booth and then when the car was actually first spotted.
So we knew that we didn't have to go that far. So we looked in places that the bucks county please
farmers in the district attorney's office. They helped us with some location is because this is. This is all in a different way
the out of your aware that way, I got it
in Montgomery county, and this was in a box counting
and we also receive the three phone calls from people
to learn ourself acclaimed psychics,
and one was just from a woman who lived in new jersey of all places
She said: look, I don't know anything about this case other now what I've seen on a news, but I had a dream and she
described the place that she has never been too
she was right on spot spot.
and we were
That area and obviously
Nothing happened, we had a wife
and from my psychic from Massachusetts, who grew cos.
ass. She was very
specific on a location that she had seen there and,
she came down- she travelled from must met with us, took us therein, and we
the area where we, which she thought the cap would be found.
Coarser de mappen and then them,
we had a another phone call from another psychic who told us that
copy was alive and well in living, in LOS angeles,
that's how that's how we did some of our searches through either
phone calls or tips that we again we Adam we receive keeps its
somebody believe that saw c mon.
Near some railroad tracks. Nearly
yeah delaware, river
He met us without location and we search that with dog canines and and
dug, dug up places and an to no avail
it is built up an and between the highway thirteen and
There are some places that are pretty actually pretty remote. We are actually present
Privacy is that
searches. Turning up no sign of Kathleen it's difficult to prosecute anyone without a smoking gun rick game in
always believes that there is only one obvious suspect in this case.
the lonely ever been once aspect as thomas mann and
I realise that is not cooperating with the police
It is not a crime, but it seemed a little suspect me. If my wife
was missing. I think I'd be. I know I would be a lot more concerned, then
He has shown.
But there is no hard evidence physical evidence, pushing
A conclusion, in his case tours.
farmers, mon or anybody else. But.
The investigators believed that we
we will have a very good circumstantial evidence case.
We believe that we could probably get a conviction
but you know we don't make those decisions at sir, as it is
If the attorney's office makes
visions and manner.
Understandably there little leary about
pursuing murder charters when you don't have a body, although
been done numerous times throughout the country, but I think it the most
one thing that
Your lesson as I hope they realise that one there too,
friend Bobby Lindore was clear: the very early and investigation and
again he was one of the few people expressed. I mean
and family expressed,
any concern about cathy and her.
her whereabouts and that
all these circumstantial evidence it. It only points the one person and that sad in thomas Mann
its evident that anyone who has become involved in this case has suspected tom is the culprit catholic.
His family discussed what they remember from Tom's reaction after Kathleen went missing. I dont think
ever cooperated
The attorney right. Definitely there's an old newspaper article, it's not out anymore, but it's got his picture and he's holding his hand up like he doesn't want pictures being taken in it.
big headline, I'm sure we have it somewhere says I did not murder. My wife mainline Dennis says if
I called him one time, probably
mother too. After this all happen, I realise when no, he had something to do with it, and we do this conversation when south equipage murmur hollerin out on the stolen
it just kept. As listen doesn't only listen to me, then he barely said anything. I don't remember him what he said. Then
but nevertheless on. We are corresponded course frame
in his family still run into tom from time to time. In fact,
Was there dentist for some time after Kathleen went missing.
Cause. He was our done asked and we went back once or twice after she does.
weird, for Dennis deployments before we got a new dennis because he was,
Given us, I'm assuming not free but very
discounted dental we still flying through the air
Do it for a long time you know and, as we are all short said, anything more shocking
When I remember when I had my initial meeting with the detective, when I was ten years old, they were
gimme. All these questions like what
Thank you your own calling, but what do you think he had
anything to do with this and as a kid. I now, of course not wake, he's great and then looking
I remember all the weird stuff like he was. He would make you
his face when you were leaving it was colic Kirk kiss them.
His dogs name
And he would to suit yell at us for kids,
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in that came up was how someone could dump her car in the K of sea parking lot and get back home. One thing
he is at catholics. Car was dropped off at the k of sea because it was within close proximity to a train station.
Whoever left the vehicle they are could have simply hopped on a train to flee the area
I remember the thing to police force all the time that that KFC was close to a translation and they
Thus, the gay that he could have dropped the car off there for the sake of getting on a train,
and their house a gulf noses revival, many translation,
good taken train back to golf. Nelson got em off the train, their the police, to look at that
that was stuff, that the young initial detective game and was working on.
While I was researching this case, one thing really stood out to me thompson.
kathy left in a vehicle with those christmas presents
Her car was found, a presents weren't inside the thing is,
Tom, later brought those presents to her family. So she
with those presence in her car and was never seen again. How did tom have them
that was part of the thing
the police started to suspect tom because he assent,
They told them that she left the gifts, but he brought them to us a few weeks later on. We turn them evidence.
I remember georgie
my grandfather being upset because he brought them and he was upset that he brought them.
tat? Will Chaudhry automatically assumed war? He must know she's never coming back
and that was the only thing I remember about the visit was that he brought the gifts.
were turned into the police because he brought them,
just didn't seem concerned, and I asked
active game in what he thought about the presents
yeah I mean not do. That was where we really thought was gonna, be the key that
If you believe lender
and there was no reason not to that he had yet
the cat, the caddy dead elected to
go up and spend a week em with him like she had been doing for the last.
I don't know eight or nine ten months
and even to the point where she sends an email.
two. I took happy news
thirty- that evening
and says in know see over the weekend on one on adult sweep over.
So we're assuming that see how she, after this phone, call to lender
And the email at seven thirty on december. Third, that
He met her demise, then, after that
then the theory is that the gifts her in the car she's murdered. But
have to come out of a car, so she can be transported.
I mentioned to me that rick game and always kept the memory of kathleen in the forefront of his mind.
the police were always very.
sincere about their dedication to a member of great game and always had a picture of assist on his desk. He always kept their self to keep it remind him that it's an
one case and one
taking over happens really nice with a sigh. I do believe
take a seriously still buses.
the other things are worth thirty, there's not enough evidence to arrest him when we met.
The police. Recently they said we know.
we do it there's enough
we can do to prove it. There's not
evidence to arrest him. If we arrest him he's gonna get let go.
Just don't have anything: Rick came in
about what this case means to him. Even today,.
Oh sure I worked on this case. This was my only case were four:
Fourteen months I did nothing else but work on this case.
And you know, as time went by and there were no mortal leaves. I worked on it.
One I an opportunity now to say that I mean it.
monthly
I would relocate everything again and you know make some phone calls and and do something
well yeah. This was the one who got away.
She is obviously not coming back here. She's dead and I
who did it and
But I guess we're never gonna be we're. Never gonna know. Did it in a court of law
recent. As last year Tom had Kathleen declared legally deceased. She was only too
dead last year. The rest
and he gave us was hers. Something
about his sister needed paperwork or-
somebody needed the she needed to be declared dead, to claim something
that was the only reason he went through with that. We had a report. We see
there and stared at him. While he testified
Did he had nothing to do with her disappearance?
and I think I drove him to declare her day- was he we were.
Sergeant more acquisitive, the new police officers being an arm attached to it. I think he was getting worried that we were going to try to get she had pension.
from where she used to work at, and I think he was worried that we were trying to get her pension or something maybe we were about. I dunno it's a decent amount of money. The police showed us the amount and they told us that he is going to be that's. Why he's filing by sober when he declared, as he made sure he could get? It depends on you.
He actually got remarried very quickly.
I can't remember what year they told us. He got remarried,
He was already arm.
dating someone at the time
of her disappearance, and I believe they said
it's the same person
tat he ended up marrying once the law allowed them to be married. Third divorced this
when that time later married has stated that after several years of marriage, she came to believe that Tom had married her for her money and she began to fear for her personal safety. She is
divorced him and relocated due to her safety concerns
He has also stated that she believes Tom is responsible for kathleen disappearance
and that he had said vague things over the years that caused her to believe that this
Information came up during the bill cosby trial, which also
The place and Montgomery county at that same time, calf,
His family believes that her case took a back seat during that high profile trial
but they remain hopeful that this new information will be explored further calf,
in neither truly believes that our uncle had something to do with her aunts disappearance, but it appears
the case is stuck at a standstill until new evidence is uncovered,
the smart guy and that's how this
it's been going on for so long whatever he did. He knew what he was doing. He knows
keep his mouth shut.
I do remember being picked up from school at least once or twice
and getting in Havana my grandfather saying what they found a body might be Kathy.
so are we'll talk.
we'll let you know,
I was too young to really know what they had found.
just being picked up from school and saying we found a body, it might be, aroused strong
I say
Oh yeah has gone on a cover gaming gosh
in the times we've seen the paper. I call him the next day or right away. You know before he had a chance, get back to me and said we're looking into it and we'll. Let you know
and you ve were returns initial detector game it. He would return focusing inside your sister now
taken while figure that out back them
What does things you go through? The army are really must assist our loved her to death, the EU arms,
for me it really must know what happened to her. I mean. I know you've heard this before it's just what happened to her. What does she go through? You know
her army or what does she have a painter she sulphur, when all this is going on and always wonder about that, as I did,
that wasn't good,
happened, who wasn't that bad and I are
something I deal with all the time
towards the end of my conversation with frank and Cathy, I asked them at this point almost twenty years after kathleen disappearance. What is more,
important to them to find her or to get justice for what happened to her. Both I mean
My dad recently put their he's getting
black put on my grandparents gravestone because
Now we have nothing berry and we're part
not there, and we want
to find her. We want to know what happened to her, but we also.
Yeah reiterate that I hope
finally of justice for happened to her
more tens over the years. I think about it.
So what happened? The catholic moon on December? Third? Ninety? Ninety nine- do
leave her husband that she just left to go visit Robert Lindore, or do you see
fact. Tom is behind her disappearance was carefully.
killed over money.
driving her car when it was captured on video surveillance exiting the turnpike was her car ditch.
Close to lenders residents to make it look like he was involved,
Is it possible that there's someone out there other than the killer? Who has information that could solve this case? We did
to contact Robert Lindore. We wanted to see if he had anything to add about kathleen's disappearance, but
were unable to find current contact information for him catholic.
it has now been missing for six thousand nine hundred and fifty four days and her family has spent those six thousand nine hundred and fifty four days wondering what happened her and where she could be
Who desperately want to find kathleen, but
I also would like to see justice.
They watch the person they believe is responsible. Go on about their life as though nothing ever happened. If you have any information about kathleen disappearance, please call the upper marian police department at six one zero to six five, three,
who three too
at the time of her disappearance. Kathleen was forty, eight years old and she was described as five for two inches tom in wait about one hundred and twenty pounds. She
blonde hair and brown eyes. The sylvia brown said she was alive in las vegas, herb los angeles and that she had lost her mind.
That's all she had decided immediately dismiss that delay. The district attorney covers the OECD.
He was the prosecutor in the bill, cosby case that just you know, just came to an end earlier this year. So I'm hoping that some of my associates back there will talk to them about this. I didn't have any involvement with any of that other than I knew some of the investigators involved in it, but
This is that there was a good wind phenomena of this would be a good one to his heart, really mister.
Looking tour to stay shoot owes you know life of situation, personal promptly, and while she was only you know-
gimme the sensible side. What I should do,
MR personality, I see
You know catchy
named after
I should like to see a lot of them.
You know the same trade between her and my sister personality, wise, anaemic,
it's my sister more.
One thing I feel bad for my father passed away, never saw this resolved.
and I'm gonna. We took that to his deathbed,
I will show you how about that, so
I really
there's times when I look at situations with Kathy my old daughter amy, how much they miss their aunt and how much how helpful she would have been with some of the things they've gone through over the years as big
really big void.
Never you never really get over it.
Given the more you get used to Bianca oversell
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and
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