Wondering plus subscribers can listen to the vanished ad free right now, join, wondering plus in the wondering, app or apple pie casts the. Why aren't you know what it is problematic worldwide I didn't like it already at that point until they are hoping to myself what I could have done better and I blame myself, but I didn't do something but I also do no dealing with the latter missing person, cable stuff, like that domestic violence, especially didn't to domestic violence. Part of it is that if you didn't have that made it. What happened another night cause she brought. We would win back in that scary part. I wish I could have done something different. Great keep her pretty going at all, but can I tell already or occasions. What, if I do

take her home at night. Where would we be broken up? What, if I do need to take her out packing Where would we be? Would we be able to favour? Would we have been able to get her way from him legally. Would we go? We brought you the first part of Becky morceau story on December. Twelve. Two thousand three Becky one for a night with friends at a club in Milwaukee was concerned, Becky was a tall new three year old woman living life and enjoying her freedom. She was working in finishing up her college degree. Her entire life was ahead of her, but there was a dark. I cast over Becky's happy life. Her boyfriend coral an older man who had a history of abusing women, we lifeless week off with Becky's escape to florida, and today we will bring you the final part of Becky story about her returned, wisconsin and subsequent disappearance, america, and from wondering this is episode. Three hundred and ninety nine of the vanished part two

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care, while listening in part one of geese story. We talked about how she left wisconsin and had gone to florida for a short period of time from one every he told us. They thought it was about six weeks or so Becky rich in wisconsin to finalize her divorce from her ex husband mike and soon resumed life as normal for becky prior to return to florida. When we talked with, these cousin jennifer. She told us about this period of time and Becky's life, though I know You want a border and the story that I referred was that She had met another man who had taken the floor to get away from Karl. He walked up to the ticket, you gotta get love and she had come point came back to wisconsin to get back with Carl some stories and surfaced around that time. That Becky went to florida too work in a gentleman's club, which I don't buy it all. That's not her at no point in rome,

up with her or even early teenagers. Later teenagers did she ever even mention that being a desire of hers to get involved in that industry. So that was the story that surface where she went down there and she was working at a stroke club down there, which make zero sense to me not her, now. If know she was a very shiner. You girl, she wasn't t she an out. There was a boisterous like that Now again, you know in a few years that she was on an opera Carl things could have changed, but I dont know that things will change that drastically, but does for people be desperate things so, You're standing was actually a bar at a gentleman's bob during He's time in florida. She wasn't speaking to her parents and her mother became concerned in a toothache, fifteen interview with media Milwaukee Becky's karen stated that karl called her looking for Becky care? tried to reach her by phone, but Becky wouldn't answer her cause, Carl,

told Karen that Becky had gone down to florida and was working at a strip club. He said that was going to bring her back to wisconsin karen believe Carl and attempted to report Becky missing tour local police at that time they refused to take of report citing Becky was an adult and could leave if she wanted to in that, to those fifteen article Karen also stated that she was able to get the fbi involved in It was a person who found Becky in florida, but she said that she didn't want contact with her parents. This this estrangement from her parents, Becky's close friend, Christina explained that well he was in florida. She kept in contact with her. So that she wouldn't worry or feel that her friend was in danger. While she was report our she would call and talk to me He can talk to my mom. She call and talk to my sister. He would hear from her wasn't like heard from our every single day, but we would hear from our once or twice a mine. She would definitely call- and let us know everything with good

I would try to see our joy join. Seeing proceeded call me one day, just to tell me that she bought two pit bulls. with and that was Becky. She was so loving. She would take care of anybody in everything from falling aunt, bettie, almost dead than to guard the spurious Some people in the world tell you, you see it as just that helpful and happy go lucky and it didn't understand why You went down there, issue empires and didn't make sense. They down there for a while until he had to come up here for her divorced from like most of us were like at florida? Why you didn't go to india or Chicago which is closer, but yet we could still in all regions. and florida. So when she came back for her, With your feelings, she decided to stay and ended up back with Carl. I do I know how that went through or how like, if she called him or if she went to his house. I don't

I remember how that happen. I think was the moment when I was like going through my divorce cause. I was still in contact with their, but not as much as I would have liked to ban contrary. Might at one point. In time I became homeless. I had nowhere to stay with actually gonna be sleeping in my car, so I was kind around and then I ended up with my friends. That's limiting started, talking more again seeing each other more again and that's what yes, I was finding out. She was back with her all. I already knew she was back with them, but how deep she was there I didn't know what was going on. One she got back with them was and I was around at the house, and he walked in the house and his underwear where afterwards dinner was screaming at her. He gave her this corrected little red kick up to door, fallen apart oh here it was winter. He gave a technology that our czech and say this is for gas. He would take a check.

It wouldn't give her any money for there were times she. I can't go anywhere Can I don't have any money in? I don't have any gas or its to pull theirs for heat in the truck or the trouble falling apart, couldn't go anywhere fishing stocks on the east of December twelve, two thousand three: He was in the mood to spend time with her friends. She had her really rough year after feeling rejected by our parents, tough love she went from placed yes and eventually back to Carl's house to live. She and her long time friend christina, made plans and went out that night tina remembers that evening. Vividly Finally, one night me, I'm back, you were gonna, go out party so hard night to recall eyes, then that is corners stay one that I met her. I will stay in her quarter till the day I die, we find her and we can put it arrest or the. that I do finally make my day. How are you you wanna put that

that night we were gonna go out with my girlfriend tat. We were gonna go to a gay club, and this one was called conversation. You're told me and Becky I thought I was going to meet at her house. I went to Becky's house, it would have been kind of person back to you. I have no fashion sense. If I could say I'm a jeans, he's shirt kind of person for really didn't have any kind of fashion the drive up and lay club uniform. So I got there. I followed pretty deep and backing like. No, I got somethin you to hear, took meaner roman. She put me on it. but sir, and I can remember my dear little bed she up into a little bit of my maker hand what we time fully requirements sitting around. She had got me out and write a year. We were around the house making music listening to music, while we were waiting for time to go and to be honest with you at this point Only thing I don't remember who drove, but I'm here remember when we got to the club my girlfriend have like we will wait before we go in and unlike air,

She says I want to walk in there with each one of you are one arm, for I want one. deciding on their side from my croquet tat was just tat, so that were there we went in arm in arm with tat walked in there. We were drinking and having a good time, in Japan chasm and answering, I'm not a dancer. Still to this day, I don't have much rhythm. We We have been having a good time. Becky eventually got me out there to dance since I've been drinking liquid. Courage will do that all of a sudden, her phone rings and its Carl and she decided not to answer it. When a ring again and she decided not and it rings again- and this continues a couple times. Finally, I may see answered I was not liking. It sometimes do blame myself because I feel bad about it, but at the same time I know

at that was on him and it was bound. It was something that he as a crazy person or whatever psycho jealous abuser was, and I I've seen domestic violence in the in I do know about it. When he kept calling, I told her, I was honey. Do you want to go home? I can take you home so that there is no problem I should like now I want to stay all you know we were coming out. It was ok with it, it shouldn't be a problem and, unlike all I know you know how we used in shoes It's known, arthur walker. Will then, instead of ignoring his calls turn it off cause. He was going to keep calling you on, like you, could turn it off or I can take you home. I mean I don't want I think, you're going to have a good time with you, but I don't want anything to start anything to go any further. So if is going to keep the problem from happening, let me take you home and she she didn't want to wanted to be able to enjoy yourself. Christina would never see her friend again but

for she had no way of knowing that at the time Christine told us that, at the end of that evening, she drove Becky home and they made plans to hang out again that night and I took her out when we at ways where she was with Carl. The house faced this debt in road, and so I pulled it in front of her house in a dead end- and I say: ok back here, I will talk to you. It's my own shoes. I know you're gonna come over, we'll go with music denominator, you had a dance, ok Only when a problem do tomorrow. So I watched her going I said now you make sure he waved me from the window final. You made it a pair of consumers, the duplex and she lived in the upstairs duplex and his grandmother. I think grandmother was one who have downstairs at that time. She was still alive and- I told her waiver me when you get up there in the window, for that I know you made it safe. Now anything happen fall on the stairs. Somebody could be an all way. You don't know. That's my easiest way from ITALY.

for frightened and make sure you get in the house after we go anywhere and it's late. She waved them me so arm and for the next day where I was gonna, go over there and meet up with her. You don't make me a dancer. I called. Tat morning, when I got up, I got ready and I got no answer. Needless to say, I didn't hear former for about an hour. I call her again. I called her again, And I call and I kept calling her throughout- hey and I was not getting a tax pack, a call back. I didn't get any kind of response, so I called my sister and I'm like dude, have you heard from Becky I'm not hearing for Becky shoe and I were still paying out today and she has not responded to my All karl was calling her all night last night we were hanging out. I don't know, what's going on, have you heard from her she's like no, I haven't. I we gotta figure out.

Is anybody alford farmers? All I guess she got contact with. Does a re debray had said she hadn't heard? from our either. They call me, later on and said that they were going to go over to her house. Did I I go with AL. I couldn't I had my son. I didn't want to leave that might with my son. I can't go. They went over there. They. I got no response from their calls to her. There they went over there. They got no response over and we were calling her calling her calling your calling her in Finally, one day, my sister and re went back over there, the truck with very back he used to you, but with answering the door, my sister and on the decided to go to the police station, and they can we file for missing person. They told them that, because we weren't family, we couldn't report the missing

that's what killed me right there that right there is very little went over there that day. I truly believe we would know we're back years. We would know something my sister: with spitfire fire than I am Mcelroy and, as he says, well kill somebody check on her governor check where worried about her. We ever heard from her in a couple of days. The voicemail is now pull it hasn't and cleared. Can somebody check on it? I mean now when every field I dont know exactly why. I can't tell you exactly what was going on. That's what my sister had told me I'm like well, they wouldn't even go to a welfare check or nothing. She was like no, they wouldn't go over there and I saw what happened she was like. Well, I told them I said well, if I break into the place where you then go, and he says well, yeah We do, we will show up and then we're going to arrest you she says. Well, that's! What's going to take when I get that you put the hell, am I have to do and that's what she was thinking about. Doing and again I feel bad for saying now. Lisa, don't get you stop refuge. You got you you got, you know

you gotta worry about two that I said, but we should do something. We retry, Becky mom. At this point between all of this going on had moved from where they were and no one. The address I didn't know where the housework come back in her mom had had a falling out over Carl and saw tat. He was going through. The family thing was going through the whole of love thing because they had tried so many times to get back here require all bad at this point. They were like. Ok, if that's, but you wanna do we're gonna be here for you later by. We can't keep failing you out and you keep going back. It was one of those where would we ve been trying? We ve been trying, we ve been trying to keep going back. Finally, that he had threatened the family. He had threatened her sister and brother. and her family that, if she had left, he would kill them back. He would put her fell forward before she would put down on her family and leave. That's why she stayed with you because he threatened her family. This was my taken

It is that she left got go Florida get away from him. This was the second time around here. She would leave again that she did it once before. I wouldn't do it again, so headway, her there was too at this point now frightened your family that kept her there the whole very. some kind of evil he saw at Why me and my sister and as the re are all calling her. I didn't have a month numbered and contact with her that first, we couldn't find her and yes, I do know that technology was up. at the time- and I do know there were more steps that we could have done trying to find her mom Well, we mom mom on the out, for we didn't know what to do. young men trying to figure this all out. We kept calling you kept calling

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witness statements and lost memories. You often see back he's missing date is reported differently, depending on where you look, we believe december to is likely the most accurate day, but we can be certain. We know that he's. Disappearance wasn't noticed right away by her family, because by the time that she vanished, she was no longer speaking with her parents after they had an argument over her relationship with Carl cousin lisa spoke with Becky daily and after several weeks went by and Becky wasn't answering her phone or returning calls. Lisa knew something was wrong and at the same time, Christina was trying to track down Becky's mother to file a police report. Here's lisa go ass. I had seen her. She came over to my place. We went through my wedding pictures. It was early december. The second rings in my head. I was trying to remember the exact

But I couldn't we had talked on the phone and I was telling her you know. I got my pictures back and everything and I would love for her to come, see the kids yeah. She was working at a target at the time which was in brookfield, and I lived in that city called walkinshaw, so they were pretty close and before you know stone we had cell phones, but we didn't have like maps or cell phone and where I lived was a little confusing to get to you. Instead of trying to explain it to her. I was just like I'm you at this mall that was kind of pull in between. Basically where I lived in where she worked. Styles, like Amir

and you can follow me grandmother matter at the mall and she actually just got in my car and we drove together. That was a little weird to me. I will make huge deal like, I didn't think anything of it, but she got my car and we went to my house and then I drove her back to the parking lot and we sat and talked for a little bit in the parking lot and then she laughed as highly chemical tonight and then I called her a couple of days later I mean she seemed herself, but she did it. She kept saying that she wanted to move back to florida when all this started happening. I thought maybe she moved back to florida, but there wasn't anything that stood out to me. That was super weird, except for like, after that she was the type of person like her, especially her, also voicemail even before when we had pagers and you could like leave a message. She would change her message, whether it be a song or just whatever. She was saying like to leave your name and number. She would change that like frequently I was calling and calling her and I'm like she's not answering, and I didn't know at that time cause she had told me she wasn't talking to her appearance. Obviously, everybody has issues with that. Their parents dead, but I kept calling and it kept crying and her voicemail

getting out and I'm left messages, multiple messages, and it never told me that her inbox was full. So I'm like okay she's, getting the messages, obviously but she's, not changing her voicemail and then Actually, I think it was in like january. I just call my annex book. I don't want to worry you, but I just had a weird feeling: she's never done that before, where she didn't call me back, she wasn't changing her voice. It was just very weird. I even went to her job to see if she's working they said she hadn't been there for like three weeks. They didn't say anything other than she just hasn't been in for three weeks so sound like I talked to a manager. I just talked to like one of a coworker. I just kind of went in there with acadian. Oh, you know Becky and merrill again. I don't even remember who it was I talked to, but she was like. Oh yeah, I haven't seen her in like three weeks. That's all she said you never know it's like working at a target. She could have found a different career like she had. She had a pretty decent background. She could have done accounting. She could have worked at a bank there's a lot of other things. She could have done so she could have found another job if I didn't want to like just assume, but I did call my aunt.

Whilst at all so I was just like what the heck, where is she so? I just called her, and I told her- I was a little worried and then that's when everything kind of went crazy. I thought Karl did something to her immediately, just because of the strange circumstances and the way that she was with him. I didn't know at that point. I'd heard, like I've never heard firsthand from Becky, but I've heard that she had been abused by him, and this was all after she kind of went but right away. I just I just had a gross feeling that he did something to her, and I don't know why that day that she came over how she said she wanted to go back to florida. I knew that that meant she wouldn't be away from him because you're moving to an entirely different state. We are not talking about voting with their partner, it to be honest, the guys that she was with before he kind of at them wrapped around her finger. So this is a little different normally, she dated guys that we're like pretty path, if all very nice guys they didn't scream at her argue with her

or anything, and I didn't feel like that was the same type of relationship she had with him again. Nothing was first hand, unfortunately, because I didn't get the opportunity to meet him, but just the way that she talked about it. I told my aunt and then my aunt just started this, which I understandable. If my kid was missing, I would choose she just like kinda went both to the wall. She was getting in contact with police departments and it feels like they were doing nothing to be honest. They knew where she was last. She had two friends that had dropped her off and who had, I believe, had witnessed, maybe not her being physically abused but her having signs of abuse and told them, and things like that it was just like they did nothing. I feel like they just kinda sat on it for a long time and then my instead of going on tv shows and putting website stuff. How can kind going on this. Land tee, not unworthy felt against him, but she just kind of like she buried, hang imposing up in its neighbourhood at having people, call him and is trying to get something out of him

mom never got the answer she wanted from Karl, but every greece. At best he was a bad person and at worst, a murderer. Hears Stena again, probably may at first, but then some highly likely that night I told her to you want to do, but I'm willing to take you home if you want to and she turned her phone up. So my thinking as oh. Well now he doesn't like me for now he took her phone from her. It was either that or he killed her. That was a first thought was he hurt her? He did something to her because he was such a fool. I already know that he was abusive and Becky. I've been going through stop with him by this time already, I had seen how mean, he can get by this time way, Carl acted between the divorce. everything now is going through the, time that I actually went with backup to conversation. There was a lot that happened between all that he was abusive and he was made and he was keeping her

from everybody. When I was over there one night as an example me and Becky were outside smoking and She had seen somebody walk, and through their yard, from one side of the yard to the other, not from the back to the fry, and this was in the back yard, and ah it was late. It was real dark. You could just see the figure. Becky didn't know what was going on. So she ran upstairs to tell Carl that you know she pulled me in the garage she's a gamble. I get Carl used to here in the garage intellectual cause that back to you, I'm going to try to keep everybody safe, a girl become the run down, as there were two guns in the pink pearl would like look the full grown older who you are and what are you doing in my guard, but I've got to go and then, if you don't get the fuck out, I will take care of it. It was pretty much threatening the guy could be walking through the yard. Yeah two weapons, one in each hand, I'm standing in the garage like okay, I already knew he was an asshole, but I didn't know he had weapons too. That shit is not cool, but that was my friend Becky I was going to.

Continue to go over there and see her, because I wanted to make sure she was ok and because that's my friend, I'm gonna country, you three, my friend, no matter the guy dating me like it or not, or the guy he she's dating likes me or not. That's my friend the bottom line there another day where I was over their air and karl, I just got your home. Ground was underwear, even though I was there, and I beg you why the hell his dinner was not made or being made at that moment the more we learned about Karl the more convey We became that this was not the case of someone who took off to get away from her family were likely took if at all, Becky's cousin journal for pointed out several characteristics about Carl that bothered her from the beginning, including the fact that He was barely twenty and coral was ten years older than she was tall, and I personally With my thing. That's when we talk of an abuse of relations,

came out to my initial. Far worse. She ran away. She left I never in a million years that should was, but then a year later or my aunt was finally able to file a missing persons report on a kind of all some cannon we had learned a little bit more about the car was and his passengers from a criminal background, and Then it became more like well shit. The florida stories cap deleting about her going to florida to stripper and we're going on there bartender and her going on there to get away from him and her sex traffic. He was very narcissistic and controlling- and I never thought I would ever have to be having these conversations with anybody. Becky sister katy explained what she remembers of Becky's relationship with coral. My sister lived with him. He was abusive, jamaica stir the last thing,

I can remember, was him beating the shit out of my sister am I that your colleague, my mom and my mom went and picked her up and she came home and she had a black eye. Should a big chunk of here missing. She was really be and my mama we need to go to the police. You need to do something and my sister was scared. She was like. I don't want to and I remember my ma- am taking her down to the police depart and filing a police report about why happen. So I remember my sister staying with us for a couple blue, Then one night, when my parents into bad may secure said to me if Carl calling me and he's really sorry anyone say come home at this time. I was like sixty and an does remembered if you're like. I really don't want you to go. I was really upset about it and remember. We were sitting out in her car because she smoked cigarettes at the time and she was smoking and she was just like. I just really want to go home

I just really miss him. He was really sorry and then at night I helped my sister pack up some of her stuff. She had only taken like a bag of stuff and then she left when my parents were sleeping, because she knew that my parents would be upset that she went back That was the last time that I ever seen or talk. My sister like me of Becky's family members. Katy too had never actually met Carl before her sister disappeared, he was an elusive, mysterious figure and Becky's life, but late one, years after Becky had vanished katy and her friend had a frightening run in with Carl. I actually did it me, m. Until my sister was missing and I let him my parents accept gone at a cow and a friend and I had gone out to the bar. I was lucky my parents house, for them

and my parents had asked me to let the dogs out, so I actually had gone to let the dogs out it was far closer was like one or two o clock in the morning, and I was friend, who was driving my beard very long driveways I pulled up it. My parents driveway, I got out of the car, and I went in the house and I remember seeing a pickup truck coming up. My parents, driveway and my friend was sitting and in her car and he stopped like fifty feet behind french car, obviously the middle of the night, I'm freaking out, I'm like I don't know who would be here so I grabbed owner my dad's my dad had several guns in this house and I went out my parents grudge door. It was car in a black pickup truck sitting behind my friends, are, and here he is,

thine and he literally were burnt down my parents to prolong driveway did a burn out at the end of the driveway took off. Katy s account of that encounter with coral late at night was terrifying. Heavy following her, what was he play hang on doing and what would have happened that night Haiti hadn't, jumped into action so quickly and run outside with one of her fathers guns, the phrase stories about Carl, don't end with Becky and her family. There were other women who came forward and reported being abused by karl to back his family and the police christy They told us about colonels. Other relationships know why I think went down the stairs airs down the stairs and was injured from what I fanny was built to her as well, and I think that's why they had gotten a divorce, then at the girl, after them I remember her saying he was-

the garage tearing apart a gun. She was so bold cedar, good point. What are you doing to that and he was like taking it apart. She was like for why he was like. Don't worry about it then she said was the gun that you use to her Becky worth or whatever you did to back. It is that what you use that he was, I told you ever pop- you talk about that again, sunk into their nature at the time, of Becky's disappearance. There was some sort of criminal charge against Carl involving domestic violence in which Becky was the victim. We found conflicting reports about this Some say that Becky failed to appear in court to testify and then vanished days later others say that Becky signed a sworn affidavit, stating that she had made false statements to the police and that coral had not harmed her. In any way, we are not able to verify which of these events took place and when to add to the confusion. There are other women who file police reports indicating that Karl had abuse them to Becky sister.

He told us what she knows about this He has victimized several women. He did things to the mother of his child. He abused her. I think, there's like two or three police reports of domestic abuse between his wife. He has been charged with domestic abuse several times before and after my sister, the woman that he has a child with, he threw her down a flight of stairs. He almost killed her the woman after my sister, her name John june and I actually have a relationship, a friendship, a sisterhood. I don't know what else to call it car all held her captive in his home for four days nearly b to that she literally escaped from his house, but may get had been tortured for boarding again. This was seventeen years ago eighteen years ago, but there are police report connected to

the one in coral she didn't live in wisconsin after the whole incident with him she fled the state. My mom was pretty much adopted her, so she's she's, like a liquor extra sister now, the scene, I still stay in contact on facebook and we talk pretty regularly so yeah. She can give you definitely some insight into Carl and how abusive he was, and he had made comments to her that he was going to kill her just like he killed my sister june had suffered abuse at the hands of coral sounds a lot like what Becky had reported in the months before she vanished unfold, that way we were able to speak with june, our selves because she was in the midst of some medical treatments at the time you were researching this series. However, we were able to obtain police records that included interviews with june. In the records we obtained.

so that Karl started physically abusing her after she talked to the police about another investigation, beaten her on five to six occasions he would beat, with his fists leaving bruises and on one occasion he strangled her. She described ro as very controlling and demeaning juno, The police at the end of august of two thousand seven after she had broken up with Carl, and she said that he had violently raped her on two occasions: coral charged with two counts of rape during june. Interview with the police. She told me about a time early on in their relationship with Carl gave her a gun and that gun and cut into small pieces. He told you get rid of it at her workplace, which she did good

have been used to kill Becky. There is no way to know now, since that was years after the fact that she told the police about it. Carl was set to stand trial for the rape charges in two thousand and eight, but he would never see his day in court because he ended his life in october of two thousand and seven, Carl died of carbon monoxide poisoning in his garage seated inside his pontiac firebird. Even we weren't able to make contact with june her, Sperience is that our documented in police report certainly make the case against coral much stronger, especial because she still here to talk about them you may read, and some articles about Becky's disappearance that sum of curls family members say he could have never been capable of violets and they occur. Becky's mom, of course, in june, into making claims about coral. However, four june and before Becky Carl, had been married. That may which ended in two thousand and one after wife had endured years of abuse. His ex wife

said that he had thrown her down the steps choked her and she believed he was going to kill her. Not all of us, His family members believe he was innocent. stepmother, who had been in his life since he was a toddler, believed that he had killed Becky the home Becky and Karl lived in at the time she disappeared was owned by a stepmother. Her mother lived low curl and Becky, and she said tat. Her mother had heard Carl beating Becky from her apartment many times colonel. Stepmother was so convinced of his involvement in Becky's disappearance that she decided to evict him after Becky vanished and she stepped up to Becky's family, in any way that she could enforce. At least Carl did murder Becky he dead at his own hand and whatever knowledge he had to the grave and that's just beginning of Karl suicide hears katy. He committed suicide on my birth

He was thirty nine when he died and he died in two thousand and seven very interesting. He killed himself in his race car. He turned the koran, put it in his grass and killed himself, and he actually recorded his death. It took several hours for him to die and theirs recording of it and my mom has it how my mom got a copy of it. I dont ask questions, but my mom has a copy of it and I have heard heart of it and during the recording he does lame that he was not involved with my sister's disappearance. So he goes on a rant about

my sister anne he, like repeatedly claimed, threw out the recording, while he's dying, that he wasn't involved the messengers disappearance so from way sergeant crawley size. It sounds like its transcribed and it is in my sister's file. My mom has the actual tape of it. It's like several hours long. I did listen to it, but I listen to bits and pieces at my mom wanted to share with me I don't know how many people have heard this recording either jennifer told us that she is aware of the tapes existence but hasn't listen to it and her reason resonated with us. I had heard following that. Karl had committed suicide, and I heard that a note in it to such people find I've, never seen a trance. From the fact tat I ve never heard what was actually on the cassette tape. All

I heard was that there was not a confession on tape that adamantly denied having any involvement, Becky's disappearance and that he blamed my aunt profusely for him committing suicide because you would I don't know that I'd be able to read the transmitter. Listen, I don't ever want to have an excuse to feel empathy towards them. If there's something in his tape or in his note that would cause me to doubt that he did this to her. I don't want that because I have to have somebody to blame and he seems like the logical choice. He seems like the most logical choice based on their history based on the police. contact that they had a bad, because I m m brutalizing, her I mean in my head is upheld well when he's the last piece of the puzzle, and I don't want any any reason to doubt that that piece is going to fit where it belongs in this story, because it's him he did it. I don't want to read a transcript and I don't want to be empathetic towards him,

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express that it was a constant fight to get the police to do anything at all. When my mom kind of discovered that make the tour was missing and she tried to go to Milwaukee to file a police report, they wouldn't even take a missing persons report on my sister. They said was no doubt she has every right to go missing, though my mom was persistent and kept calling and calling in calling and saying daughter- is missing medina dismissing sergeant crawley had brought up. He said you know, your sister is missing. Persons report was even taken told november of the following year, and I said because the Milwaukee police department would not take a missing persons report. I said things were different many years ago. Heath of all summer walked into my department today. He said your damn right. I would take a police report and I said you weren't twenty years ago, and no one would take my mom's police report, the milwaukee please,

man made. My ma am go to the fbi, the f b, I actually did get involved the f b. I went my man down to miami, because coral had claimed that my sister wit to miami that may sit here was kidnapped and was taken to miami and she was prosecuting and shipping. That's why coral had created so the police department said no cargo planes that she was kidnapped in three black. I took her to miami, so my mom got the fbi involved. They actually listened to my mom and they all got involved because they thought that my sister could have been kidnapped. They would it's her and they met her gown in miami and they went to the strict club that my sister worked out and they talk to all the answers and to the owner of the club, and they were like no she's not down here, that's not what happened and the f b. I actually went back to Milwaukee and said no. She was not kidnapped. This is a case of a missing person, and now you have to

take the report, and then that was finally when they actually took a missing report. I may sister that is raising to me crazy, so my sister did not get anything. persons report until november of two thousand and four. So when you said that my blood was boiling. Unlike listen, you don't understand, and what happened twenty years ago. You were probably just a kid he's: young, the Milwaukee police department, years ago was not what it is today and may have been very typical in the past to work with john walls came in and try to feature my sister story and the more police department would not give him any information, That was heartbreaking for my mom, because she wanted a sister story to be featured and he couldn't do it without the police willing to work with him. John walls had three detective that he was willing to bring into work with the mocking police department to try to solve my sister case

denied their request. There was a lot of information to taken about the lack of police cooperation We were disturbed by the fact that, just twenty years ago, police brushing off what was clearly foul play as a voluntary disappearance and contradicting themselves in doing so. Yes, had gone to florida on her own volition, to escape coral, but that's complete. different than what Carl told police about her being kidnapped, didn't happen or anyone at the police department. We thought it should, but what katy told us about the milwaukee police just sturbed us even further and was consistent with the hostile responses we ve gotten from them over the last several months in our attempts to cover- and or of cases in their jurisdiction I get up from their getting. I call I got another detective who was like ok- was she nodded her desk I'm going to leave a message. I left a message for her. She didn't call me back so I called the next day

and I was like you know what I'm just going to keep calling till she docks me. She's got to talk to me till the next day called she was out of the office that day. So I left another message. I kind of told the detective a little bit about my sister she pulled up. May such cases like. Oh, my gosh, you, missing. For a really long time- and I like she had- I just I know what's going on with my sister's case. I just have some questions, for I was a little upset. He started crying and I felt bad cause. I was crying to this other detective, who knew nothing about my sister's case and she's, like I gotta you have every right to call. I will make sure she called you so the next day she actually called me, The first thing out of her mouth was your sister's case number is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and I said, stop right there. That is not why I'm calling I know my sister's case number. She had been missing for twenty years imo

what mrs your case number is. She said: well, I'm just calling to inform you. You can get this information yourself and I said I'm calling, because I want to speak to you because you are the person handling my sister's missing persons case, and I have questions for you. She said: well, I'm not allowed to talk or to give information over the and I said well how about we set up a meeting between you and I and we can sit down and talk about it. It doesn't have to be I think very formal. It can be something like very casual. I can meet you at the police department or we can meet somewhere else and she started laughing and she goes. I don't do that so now, I'm frustrated and I'm like. Listen, there has been no contact with my family for the last fifteen years or my sister's case. I am a victim in this case. I don't give a fuck how you look at it. I'm a victim. My sister was taken from me and I am have a job just like my sister, but my sister is a voiceless.

Come in. She can't speak for herself. So at this point I have every right to ask questions and I want to know why you have done in the last fifteen years and so now he's pissed whatever fine. I just want information, so then she gave me, mrs, would take them again. She said it's open records it yourself- and I said you know why I said the way that you are treating me. It's not ok and I'd like to seek with your superior officer and she got he's not in. But if you want to talk to somebody you can call city hall, and I said city hall and she got ya or you can pull the chief of police whatever works best for you at this point, I'm pissed off I'm! said she ended up hanging by me. I was yelling at her. I don't even remember what I said because those was so I hung up in.

And I actually cobb. Whatever the there was like a number to file a complaint against an officer, so I ended appalling and the dispatcher transferred me to an officer arose a sergeant, but he was not the sergeant bird that department. I told them and everything that has happened. He was very apologetic. He looked up, who offer. was an he's like I'm, I'm not china's say anything about her, but she's, very young and sometimes our young officers. You know they just don't know how to deal with people, so he emailed me like a complaint form that I could still out in email but he said you know what I want you to do it. I want you to call back, and I want you to speak to her sergeant witches sergeant crawley. If he doesn't answer or if not there, he said just keep falling back until you talk to sergeant crawley cause, that's her direct supervisor, so I ended up.

keen to sergeant crawley. It took me over a week to get in contact with him and then, when I finally did get in contact with him, I mean he was apologetic, but it was like you need to understand that she's, the one that works all our missing cases and she's only about that apartment for two years and she knew- and I said that doesn't excuse the fact how she treated me- and I said this is not how you treat a family of the missing am appalled and he's like you know. I'm gonna be very blunt with you. I don't believe that your sister is alive and I don't believe that will ever find her body, and I said I agree with you. I understand that, but I believe that there are people that are connected to my sister's case that have answers and that could potentially tell us what happened to my sister, though I feel like for make the only that we have that right to know where

if the is even if we're not gonna, get her back alive. Despite her frustration, katy did look, that the sergeant she spoke with had gone through Becky's case file, ensure with her. What investigative work has been done on the case, despite the shared sentiment that she probably would not be found alive. He said that he sat down with bankers vile, but there is over three hundred file. He said that she has low are just stand in their office filled with record. Her case is being actively worked for the last time that a tip came in was from a jail. How mitch and that it did in amount to anything and that the last time any had been done on the case had been several years ago, and they went and re enter viewed my sister's boyfriends father, who was six years old and in a nursing, home and didn't remember anything so something interesting that sergeant crawley shared with me.

that my mom had no knowledge of- and he was very uncomfortable sharing with me- He said that it is in a report that I will find when I drew the open record's. Remember me: that we already knew was my sister's boyfriend Carl. His uncle, who happens to all if a home was an ax, no aki police officer yeah and he said that in relieved december of two thousand and three there was a nightmare, your old woman that was sent bore cremation to aid. Here. French cremation service that this funeral home had never used before, and he said that the box that was sent to the cremation was double. The weight of what it should have been. He said the woman was like a ninety two pound woman by there was a two hundred and fifty

pound or three hundred pound calf get. He thought it was like a paper box with a wood bottom and he said that this box it was sent off, but it was sealed and he said that in the state of affairs, Then, when you send a body for cremation, there are not allowed to open it. This box was sent to a different cremation, then in our home, usually use and that it was his thought. He is ninety percent sure that my sister was in that box. He'd like there's just no way too could extract jirsa drew dna from those ashes that my question was ok. Why can't the police department go to her family and say? Listen this! the situation, is there any way that we can get your gram of ashes somebody's got our ashes and he was Blake yeah. That's pretty much out of the question. Ben cadaver, dog searches for my sister thereof, actually been several grades that about exempt, like I said earlier, is on call owned a funeral home

so my mom actually raise funds and paid the have grave exude. I believe she had to I think they're still. Wine left that was buried in two thousand and three that has not been exempt cause their family wouldn't give permission but to families did give permission, and my mom paid for those two big exude by her body was never found, but back then, when my mom was doing all that stuff no one had given. The information about the cremation add how that body had been sent to another cream. the facility. So I don't know, but back then she would have done. That had she known that information in your way that sergeant crawl made it town was that they never use this cremation service before they use. Only one time and he didn't know exactly the day, but he said I could find it in a report. They actually inner view that cremation service in

They were ruled out as being involved in anything they didn't know anything. He said. I am confident that the cremation service didn know anything that they were involved in it. You, the servants, one time just to get rid of my sister's body and then went back to using the other cream too bad he like. I'm going to be really blot with you, and I want you to be a fat but he's like I'm ninety percent sure she was sent in that box to that crematorium and she was without other lady, and they can extract dna now that they ve been bird you'll, never be able to act. But her dna from, though that russia could. My fourth question is okay. Well, if you're telling me this, then how come you can't go, get something from a guide and get those ashes so that at least dna can try to be extracted. He's like that's, just not possible that can't happy This clue was particularly telling if true,

Timing is more alarming than anything else. Despite recent the instruments in dna. Identification of cremated, remains the science behind it remains experimental at best men. Funeral home state in their frequently asked questions that cremated remains, can be identified, visa dna, but they don't it. Ass. How exactly a body is cremated once room from the oven, a bone pulverize or is used to remove any chunks of bone or teeth, which is fewer homes. Making. This claim rely on as proof that you can dna test. Cremated remains, furthermore, cremation of is never going to be completely clean of other ashes. Unless it's brand new and the south, didn't mention Becky, possibly having been cremated in a box with another woman. This wouldn't dna identification of those remains even more difficult and likely require the permission of that woman's family as well. That being said, the youth

government has been working to pioneer the science of dna. Identification of cremated remains for a number of years with promising progress, it seems ferris tell a family member that something will never happen when the science of dna has evolved so greatly. Just in time, Becky has been missing, we're doing things and twenty twenty three the police. And others said, would never be possible. In two thousand three katy said she was already thinking the same way we were and her It's been tried one unconventional method of finding out for himself one of my husband's best friend passed away and we have his ashes and it's so funny cause my husband and I actually opened it up, because males was like. I wanna see what it actually looks like he like there's people that blow in there we're very careful, but yet there are little bones in there. You could see the little fragments of stuff, and I was telling my husband- I don't get why

whom it extracts something from a fragment of bone. But then you bet, if you'd make with somebody else, could we could see like little pieces of bone in it? I may has a pretty sure not to them there, and I would like all that's really creepy couldn't may be true that Becky's body was disposed of in this manner. In it, two thousand eleven interview with Milwaukee magazine, Becky's, ma Karen said that she had hired a private investigator, who found proof that Carl's vehicle had been parked up. And of his uncles funeral home on the more of December fourteenth two thousand three around for I am. She said that there were two parking tickets. I confirm this. Carry but this information to the district attorney, and that was how she was able to get approval to get those two grave sites exude the people. We ve been buried in the days that followed, Becky's disappearance, katy said they didn't find Becky in those graves. But what, if really did get cremated. With that older woman who had passed away

same article in Milwaukee magazine, someone could to the investigation stated that karen was wrong. It wasn't curls vehicle parked. front of the funeral home that night it was his father's Carl senior suburban. That was often used as a hearse. We don't know The truth lies here as far as the parking tickets from that night, because the record We received did not detail any of that information, so we can We go off of what was said in previous reports day, one of the past the things that came out of katie's negative interaction with the first police officer she contacted was sorry Crawley maintains an open line of communication, he hasn't been able to help Becky's family obtain the records, though we were well to obtain some information on both Becky and coral through an open its request to the Milwaukee police department fairly quickly? We don't know farmer. just as media was handled differently than Becky's families request, but they ve been. We for months now, Sargon crawley did tell me

thing information. Why is he like? If you have any What are you need to know anything? I will share with you what I can share with you pick up the phone and call me. I will keep an open mind, a communication with you. He pretty much told me. Don't call officer biting without telling me don't call off, thereby he's like, I think he'll be. a lot of closure. When you get your sister's file, I think you'll learn things about your sister that you didn't know before. I feel very confident that I know a lot about my sister and I was like what could be in there that I don't know about. My sister, like I said we're still waiting the records people to call us their only open, anticipating thursdays, but as of now, we have not got no call because of all the frustration with law enforcement delays taking a report. Becky's families perception that they didn't care about Becky because she had left before and the fact that Karl had told law enforcement that she was a sex worker, Becky family and, most especially her mother, felt the only thing

could do was to investigate becky's disappearance on their own and that mom karen went to extreme lengths to find her daughter to them. let her marriage to Becky's, dad Dave, ended, here's bucky's, cousin, jennifer on that. I don't think she's ever stopped. Looking she has been real, went live in her search. Her daughter, so I dont know that she stopped. She may have slowed down a little bit, but you gotta stop founded a not for profit, but she will I know that she had gotten herself a job at the Milwaukee police department at one point just so she can be close. Keep tabs on. I think she was a dispatcher she was down in a corner of milwaukee hanging posters in flyers, and she never stopped shoe one in the corral on several occasions. I believe you call the police. and her stockings, our harassment or something like that at one point two, and I think that her go, that was her goal was to drive him to the point of confession. I think she's involved with

in other families that I'm missing kin, I don't know the details of their divorce, but I know that she has given her heart and soul into a train I'm back. If I would imagine that there wasn't much energy, put into the marriage, and so, if I had to speculate, I would say that everyone was search for your daughter's, probably what ended their marriage or maybe the lack of support from her husband is what ended the marriage and I dont want to sound like Dave, didn't give a shit right because I feel it he did he's not the kind of person put himself out there and say You know he's not gonna, run up to the microphone and give our interview, because that not do here he is silent in the corner, watching everything insatiable need. Find her daughter versus is. I know where nature take its course, more and better jobs and an attitude at least at first. I thought he was being let the police do the job. Mostly. I believe that if our child were to disappear, we would do anything to find them, and we know

Karen was desperate for answers. Kerensky. Sometimes crossed boundaries and strain the relationship between the family and law enforcement. In the thousand eleven Milwaukee magazine article titled vigilante. It says quote in kramer search, she sometimes crosses the line. She admits. It Carl, was alive. She posted flyers at union, grove, race, track and monitored his racing schedule trial run before one race just days before he suicide car engine blew up. Some one more smiles knowingly put five Great sugar in his cars gassed hank kremer, because convince. She could prove Carl's guilt if she got into his email account. She email address but needed his password in her pursuit. She heard corals dog had been picked up one day by the wisconsin humane society. On a hunch. She called the pound and started asking questions,

when was the dog picked up, she asked an employee. What type of breed was it you happen to know the dogs name dominate answered the employee. She locked the corals account and type the word dominate her and boom up came all of his emails. She says: Kramer, meanwhile, had set up an email account with a bogus name, had a public library so or online snooping. Couldn't be traced using this account she logged into Carl's email every day I control. that guy's computer for three months kramer went into Carl's house during a police search. She the most of the opportunity, remedy through his dress, her she found health document showing that he had contracted several stds, she scanned the documents and using her fake email account centre. more than three hundred people in his address book for by another emails, heine, Becky's abuse and disappearance to Carl. I know it's alive the break into his email, but who gives a shit? She now says he killed

daughter. Twenty nine women responded to the email, saying Carl abuse them or gave them, and std kramer says police said, there was nothing they could do unless they contracted aids and because I didn't really the abuse at the time they couldn't open an investigation. She says end quote: it's easy judge someone or say what will you do if we were in this situation, however, we can never really know what we would do in a situation until we're in it, and is also important to acknowledge that karen was thrust into this situation and felt forced where several different hats yes the grieving mother, lashing out at the man. She had tried so hard to get her daughter away from, but remember that she was also acting as lead investigator, because the police, department when even take a missing report for nearly a year in this article, an investigator who was not named said as much as I feel for Karen Kramer. Alienated a lot of people in her quest to find out what happened to her daughter. We did everything-

We could- and she made us out to be the bad guys. Carl step their claims that Karl was an innocent man and Becky's mother had harassed him since two thousand three up until, as in two thousand and seven, but his father also put the blame on the women in Carl's life, saying he made bad choices in the women he chose to be with and even went as far as to call Becky a trap. Well read in the police files we received. We could see many tips and rumors that were caught into the police. Many of these tips came from karen search for answers, talking to people and being a constant presence in corals, neighborhood search, for new witnesses, Jennifer explained after Becky disappeared, her aunts life. Oft around searching for Becky. There was No- space for anything else. The rumour started around about how it is family owned. Crematory in talk starts going that he took her their name,

buried within another person in the cemetery, in my hand, went through the trouble of going through the red tape. To get It is a game I think she's successfully got through different information on which both clearly and out to be nothing. But there was a lot of focus that crematory alert and a meal tries to that then point where somebody had mentioned that karl was parked in front of the funeral home to night after Becky officially was missing, she's gone a psychic browed she's gone. The least. And rude she's gone, hiring private investigator out, she's gone being her own, an investigator. I know that she'd be frightened. People on the police department solely for the purpose of trying to get details. she's got a lot of things, you don't let her out and I feel like shit. down every single lead, she's been handed or given, or every little feeling that a psychic fancied she found she cadaver dogs at some point involve searching.

Area behind that I believe the hang our department if it was an existence as far as looking for cadavers people or anything. I think she our another made? It happened back then she's been securities resourceful and for efforts. I dont know when she ate swept, did anything. She lived breathed then walked tried to walk back his path figure out where their, what He has been missing for nearly twenty years in it time she has missed out on all of life, nieces and nephews being born marriages, graduations and so many other important milestones. We ask family to reflect on what they miss most about her becky's, and Amy told us this now that some kind of past that money who know something might be able to come forward, and we know that and for the family can have closure, taking the foot lady means. I know that you're kidding me, and I know that my answer

then we all need had, but for katy, fake, the sheep taken as the hardest addressing her life I'm sure not a day. Goes by that, MRS her sister and not having answered the sound. the unknown and I think if anything, we ve been going through that since two thousand and three it's time, I think it's time for us to be able to put back either. May we haven't, we ve had the job right, we ve had crept thereupon, he is, but we haven't really there. A surely morn. Unless you truly now you ve never been able to put the by an one thing when you have a loved one whose diagnosed in terminal or whatever you have that time- and you know you know- and you can prepare yourself a little bit like in this situation- there were several even an opportunity to lay figure thy or have closure or nothing to pray over. It's just a big question mark. So what I

cause my eyes. I think my family ties and so been has up to now from attic experiences and punish syrian. When I think about that, he always has a big question mark on my mind. Where are you? What could we have built as a family Kids would you have and what they be funded by catholic oliver hasn t got what are we missed Why are we know that pieces back in her potential should still be a huge part? Growing up with her. We know about we're missing at our children are one thing and that I think that's the hardest thing as I can speak of what happened once you're, not missing, but I can think of who she was, and I can truly and I do truly believe that something's been taken away. From our family, and we don't know why and we're paying the price for that and our kids are paying the price for that format gnawing haiti's their main could never knew Becky kid. You can never be back here

we're a who knew. He know the life ass. She was an airline, So we know the lighter than snuffed out of his way by by you not being a part of it, and that's me is the hard part to kind of reconcile image. Our aim is that she, while carrying person and I heard nieces enough- you are without that for some reason that painful for even try to reckon file because they know what they last. They didn't have any for each word, but we know We know the loss of her. That's a hard won scared that we're never gonna know and that's what scares me the most is say: hypothetically harold dead. Do while my and then bobby you. Now that he's gone.

How are we ever gonna have clear we ever find out? How are we ever gonna know and that's the scary thing is because A part of me wants to believe that we still Ivan However, we all know is back here. After all that, if she were, she wouldn't be nothing. It's not just Becky's family that is invested in finding her and answers about what happened to her christina remains confident that something terrible happened. Becky after she dropped her. and home from a night out. It just shows what kind of her He has even know you wasn't charged. He don't have full proof. So it's hard to say. Yes, it was him, but with the kind of personally seen him to be it's hard, not to say it too. But who cares this point? We just want her to come home, let her family say goodbye. Did she get to leave him and she took off and didn't contact? Any of us,

say somewhere and should not talking to us because he worried about you. But at the same time you go no cause. She would account, you're. One of us should mean I wanted to contact your family or her mom at that point, because there was a lie thing going on. She would have contacted me or my sister Don't have a lot of question on if she ran away it very, very varied miniscule. If you want to say over power, they running way. I really do not believe she's with us anymore and it's more of a just peace. be able to find her and give her a resting place and letting us all think by at least be that's. All I ask is to be able to mom and her family kit, some peace and there we could also have that peace, but knowing she's alive, or should that that's too big?

christian, because I can't see that she would be alive without contacting the year by sisters by bob or her sister wonder if sister had babies. Definitely, when her dad got sick, she would have becky would have came out, the no. There were problems between her and her appearance. She would have been about if she was able to be, she would have been there for her decks heard her dad we're close when she was little I used to do all kinds of things other than Becky was the dad's little boy flash girl. She was just a tomboy and she liked to do all that kind of stuff, so she would have contacted somebody several different time in the last twenty years. If she was, with us when she went to. Florence was running away to border away from border. She called me first to come god order Do we want to know and will we'd like to know who of course do we think we know who yes, but we just want to be able to say our goodbyes and give her a final resting place.

so what happened to Becky marceau in december of two thousand three from what we how about Becky's relationship with Carl. We can see, It was full of red flags. We know that Becky started dating Carl, her loved ones. Heard less and less from her and went Becky contact them? She didn't speak much of coral. But we know there were times at things got really bad and she did go to repair for help even going as far as reporting her abuse to the police and feeling so desperate that her only escape was to flee the state but Becky had come back and ended up back with Carl and some people might say well. Why didn't she leave the winner? the answer to that, is so complex and leaving nobody is is the most dangerous time we heard people say, Carl had threatened to harm Becky's family. If she left him, it appears I beg you felt stack by those threats against her family and perhaps struggled with her own self worth in the relationship regardless

Becky is a missing person. Who is people who love her dearly and are desperate for answers spent many years since Carl took his own life and if he was in fact the person responsible for becky's disappearance, he likely took many secrets to his grave. However, there may still be people out there with information is another alternative ending to this story. Is it possible that karl was just a bad man and abuse alleged rapist, but not a murderer. A man push to the brink after years of being accused of back his murder, and also the trial for rate charges looming. Becky have escaped again and took off to florida. Or anywhere and met another fate. the chances of that feels so slim based off of what we now. But nothing is out of the realm of possibility at this point. If you

have any information about the disappearance of Becky mars out? Please call the Milwaukee police department sensitive crimes, division at four one for nine, three: five: seven, four: zero five If you are a loved one, are the victim of intimate partner violence please reach out to the national domestic violence hotline at the hotline, dot, org or the attacks by sending the word start to eight eight. Seven. Eight. Eight, you can also call the hotline twenty four hours a day, seven days a week at one, eight hundred, seven, nine, nine safe as one eight hundred seven nine, nine, seven to three three, according to draw up anything. She had gone down through miami and he was working at your club. Urgent crawley actually had brought that up. Well, no you're better. Like wasn't the back lifespan and I had a nigger victim, shaming. I don't give a shit what my dad, who gives a shit if she worked out but did not make her any lack of a few men

How much time a lot evidently love my aunt Ben condemned a letter that put a tactic that she'd you, but I have a lot of time, in trade at the Marty police department. From what I understand you try to get it. I'm in a case that He didn't really here when import them they never really care about backing machine and they didn't cod stock. You now, you would hope, or you would think, you're clean, he would you free, which is really the cleaning I understand bad as she might have been an abusive relationship and I, believe me. I've always wished that huge, when underground in a witness protection programme and living her life happy and safe and secure doing what she wants to do that felt her cup on a daily.

That is what I wish. He wouldn't rare, walk from her family the idea her being alive and pop up one day is alive. idea applied? We know I mean we don't know about. We now renowned because the fact that she had gone for mine, he hasn't need money and it because we don't know how our wire, why there's a lot of vision when you're, and the the. The

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