The days of the American empire are numbered, says journalist Chris Hedges, and the evidence is all too clear for anyone who’s studied history. Our rampant militarism abroad combined with neglect of the domestic needs of any but the wealthiest citizens describe a grim future for the United States, he says. And if you think progressives in government might help us avoid that destiny, think again – The Squad and their ilk are merely controlled opposition designed to provide false hope for change. Jimmy and Americans’ comedian Kurt Metzger discuss with Hedges the calamity that elites have wrought in condemning the United States empire to the dustbin of history. Plus a segment on actor Sean Penn's cringe-worthy fawning over Volodymyr Zelensky at the recent Golden Globes. Also featuring Aaron Maté, Kurt Metzger and Mike MacRae! And phone calls from Joe Biden and Vince Vaughn!
Think Things Are Bad Now? Just Wait, Says Chris Hedges
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suddenly America's theatre of the absurd subtitled, the fifteen round of voting it took to install Kevin Mccarthy's speaker of the house, is part
the carnival of folly that passes for politics. I
gotta go through a little bit of a life right harry it opens vice.
Our political class does not govern it, entertained a
it's a sign role in our fictitious democracy holly
with outrage to constituents and
selling them out the squire.
and the progressive kok is have no bore intention of fighting for universal health care workers. Rights
to find the war machine, then the freedom caucus fights for freedom question. Why is that? Because they have any power there, just window dressing. We ve undergone a clear
broke through data in slow motion. All of the levers of power been seized by corporate forces and lobbyists. Ports have been before
to serve their interests. The media is largely almost completely
troll by roughly a half dozen,
duration. Certainly, the airwaves
ah and it's my last good, sir- it's vaudeville it, sir entertainment, it doesn't matter
the actual centres of power which her, which are real, are completely hidden, so
I'm. So what do you say what we just saw last week that actually the squire does have power, because there
right. Wingers, led by mac, gets in the house, use their leverage to extract concessions for their vote for speaker now we tried to get the squad to do the exact same
thing or the progressives in the house two years ago,
and we wanted them to extract something for their votes, so they actually have power and leverage and they could have done something similar, but they didn t know
Why do you think that is what they didn't?
but because they don't actually have power for them too
define policy and the democratic party leadership is political suicide and they know it so they want.
That is why they find the war in ukraine. It's why they didn't stand.
for a railroad or freight railroad workers.
were forced to accept this contract that over fifty percent of the union's work
had already rejected and ended. They'll do kind of
public relations gimmicks like propose
as they did in the house that they get seven days of,
Ok, when they know it won't password, but they took to actually can.
from the centres of power would
in that they would be erased. They'd be destroyed. The way the democratic parties
Dennis percentage while fund
they got rid of dennis research by redistricting
If gerrymandering is district, I know when he ran. I guess it was last year for the mayor of cleveland. They pumped in tons of dark money, especially in the last three weeks to
drawing his candidacy, so that messages and lost iron
oh see or anyone else
so you're right that they could have stood
another you're one of the leaders of this. They they had the ability to block policy. From the speech,
ship to demand concessions, but they said
I have read the power dynamics correctly, but they wouldn't they wouldn't exist within the eu
in crowded party and they lose their seats.
So you mean that nancy policy and the corporate
This would then funnel money into primaries against them to get them knocked out, avert their congressional see, that's what they're afraid of
yeah- well, that's the power of pelosi and Schumer and mccarthy- is that they are the spigot.
the money comes into the party comes through them and that is given to anointed care
so no one they wouldn't get money from the democratic party and number two candidates would be.
funded to bring them down and- and they then completely domesticated by this centre of power by
is largely worst freedom in wall street, the philosophy
industry, the arms industry, all these corporate executor
they find both parties. On the one hand, you get the idea that the polluter
clowns that speak and vulgar
True area
two and enraged public largely enraged our way working class, and then you get the kind of dulcet tones
of the democratic party to modify the liberal class, but that those centres of
funding in the centres of power the same so why
I have a theory on this, so
you're. Basically, so let me I don't want to
words in your mouth, but what would you agree with the statement that the reason why Matt gets in the old and the far right wing of the republican party was able to pull this off?
was because they were allowed to pull this off. I, as opposed to the,
relatives in the squad, if they try,
to do the same thing. They wouldn't be like it's because
that I'm having a hard time reconciling what you're saying with what I just saw last week. Well, because the funding sources for the freedom carcass will remain nor quite lavish, whereas those self identity,
why progressives, are largely dependent on funding from more traditional source.
and in particular the democratic party, so those
who are backing these kind of retrograde capitalist forces that that fund people within the freedom carcass are not gonna cut off money for standing up to my car.
Where's figures like amc and others are quite vulnerable, so you
look at what this great article d road and you talk a lot about how
You know how we legislation actually gets done and greeks
you cut. You laid out and you
talk about how the corporations on everything they own? The media, and you just mention it again, and so here
something that I found out. One eyed swords doing forced to vote two years ago was
there is this.
dabbling media protection, racket for politicians and
It's funny how they all work together, hand in hand- and I found the squad-
gate. They won't go to progressive media anymore, they'll go to MSNBC and cnn, which used to be considered progressives enemies but they'll,
therefore interviews all day long, but they won't go to progressive media and they only one they will go to is the intercept and
I figured it out, will the intercepts you know? Cia operation is run by a billionaire, was got interests all over the place
They are then tasked with protecting politicians. Thou ryan grim did that with a
we'll, see
the squad during forced a vote is continued to duty? Can he ran cover for them when they, when they squash,
the strike for the railway workers. He ran cover them and the left could show MR want
the socialist city council member seattle, two columns
make oil salesman and those there's those people there
that they're all job is to obscure reality, and I want to show you what happening again so here. So here's
o connor going on in
sub show rhine grim, show and watch they
who would again they print it lets us watch. If democrats take the house back
in two years, which seems plausible.
probably be by a narrow margin. Is there
they thinking going on in the progressive clock is now to say
what are we going to demand when there
when I hands around first supply,
It's funny he laughs roque on lap one when the reporter journalists asks him. What are you going to demand in two years when you ring when the house back he just laughs, because he knows they're not going to demand anything, and he also knows he's not going to ask a follow up question, but let's just
watches answer, though a hug you
Ok, jeffries was worried by Kevin regards iraqis and I had a unanimous about two years ago.
But I think there or
arguments for a brief, for example, many care for all in hearings on that to get a boner than there are arguments for up. That's our leading greatest, I'm not gonna make I've gotta make sure they will make them strongly, and I certainly what's thick by general, but that exists today could be made her. We go, but here's the difference and I believe,
the fundamental difference within freedom. Carcasses
and the progressive caucus. The freedom caucus by their own definition just wants to blow things
up and cut the examine. That's why they're in congress in
I disagree with it about questioning their motives therein congress because they want to reduce spending cut government that
easier thing to be a no on then saying: ok, we were met and care for all which is one of the weak.
Then legislation drafted and just set a it's a harder thing to do. What you have an affirmative agenda, some
we should tell real candidates the policies would sit, not a medicare for all bill for for about five years.
Thirty, one that why this latest but you're. So that's so you talk
about this. In your article writer, you talk, we got we gotta, because we're ever experienced so that that you talk,
What about that like how their work and coordination of the corporation owns above those people and that
that's kind of how it works with dr learning this now I may have been a comedian for thirty years. I've been in this space for about five or six years. It is wrong
our goal to see how this works? It was remarkable to see how that they have the corporation protected the democratic.
Party when they crushed a railroad workers strike I'll go ahead, got geek, speak to it. If you'd like yeah, there's complete collusion
We must remember who owns MSNBC Z,
these figures in the inner circle greenwell, they think, is given a pretty prescient critique of what happened
the intercept. I know a lot of people of course run it and work there and gland points out of it
correctly, that they all want, of course, and pulling down these ridiculously lord salaries by
they they all want to be invited to dinner, with the editors of the new yorker and the new york times, And- and I think, that's exact
right day. They want to be fed it.
I, the establishment. Well, if you are funded by the established when you have to play by the rules of the establishment
Precisely what organization
like the intercept, are doing
which is, of course, a complete,
reversal of the gold had Glenn, except when they founded the organization and so yeah. It's it's that,
We must that's nothing new! That's really! You know that! That's why don't we? You
establishment legacy media
exists. I mean I worked at the new york times for fifteen years. I watched them
destroy. All sorts of people on
radicals or people that their dead were outside the mainstream or people that question
the dominant narrative, just list
after list will re
bonner, sidney shambles new work with ray and central
work on new sidney sham when he as soon as he started, defying, are writing about
The developers word
this really know.
middle class and the working class in manhattan and destroying
control and everything else. He was out unit, working, of course, for the village voice, new and then later newsday, so yeah, that's it
this is a very long history you know gary web was destroyed. You forget by the post, new york, austin,
and another, though you wash imposed in the new york times, who sent reporters down to the pentagon to sort of get there.
You know their version of what actually happened in nicaragua than used to discredit web who ended up committing suicide. So there's a long long history of
That's why these will crumble.
liberal news organisations are allowed,
this. They paused themselves as canada, moral arbiters of society
chomsky writes about this quite well with the herman and manufacturing consent, but the moment you crossing
going to examine a question, the motives behind the
early than you immediately pushed out. That's it
old story of courses
it's worse in some ways now, because these new
organizations are far more anemic in that they're not pulling,
advertising revenue that they used to call and so
they become even more obsequious to the centres of power is concerned,
just at the Democrats get funded, yadda yadda suck up the they get the same way.
Kind of funding as didn't set of rights.
So you go on to say these political hacks arm, which we were due to be more talking about the squad, and
these political hacks. Our modern versions of sinclair, Louis's slick, Connor's, elmer, gentry, cynically
betraying a gullible public to amass per
an old power and wealth I saw it happened in front of my eyes. It's crazy thing oversee this moral that that
Huey provides these spectacle as hd wells wrote, of a great man
ariel civilization halted paralyzed.
Happen in ancient rome. It happened why Weimer germany it's happening here. Can you explain what you with? That means a dumb gallic me has no idea what that means,
It means the centres of power, all the institutions and all the mechanisms
which the citizen we might have had at least some kind of a voice. A partial voice are seized and
redirected to the consolidation of wealth and power of a tiny cabal, in our case, an oligarchy corporate elite
and when government seizes up when it becomes paralyzed,
and is no longer able to respond even in the most minimal way to the suffering of the of of of of the wider public
then you create these political monstrosities like tromp santa's, sir pompey or the freedom carcasses.
all the others that that I saw that in yugoslavia. That's what happened in weimar, germany with the rise of fascism. That's what happened!
in ancient rome,
We also have to acknowledge that part of
the disease of late empires, unchecked, unregulated, uncontrolled militarism and and
you go back to the quorum for liberals, the progressive caucus there
proved one hundred billion dollars to the grounds for more become more money to ukraine, with the annual budget of the state department
and meanwhile we are homeless epidemic within the country are in,
structure is just
integrating our families
struggling under the onslaught of inflation, ah half
country is living in poverty or near poverty, but you don't respond to an end. That's spats those to store.
Hence, which happened in weimar happening at the end of ancient roman. Everything else has political, very frightening political consequence
so that you know as I've long saturn. I think you agree trump, it wasn't the problem. Modi you know, trump was the senator trump was a was what was caused by decayed and corrupt and dysfunctional political
system minutes it's only it's only getting worse to mean the rhetoric is different. Abiden is were isn't doesnt columns of a pro labour. He president
but I'm in the rhetoric is different button. The actions are
all the same I mean of the freight railroad unions. Were one of the few
unions. Letter retain the right of collective bargaining. Remember when Biden ran for presently promised belong with the democrats to strengthen
collective bargaining
power and all that an end of course, he he destroyed it. He shoved this middle substandard contract would shoot
most people in already rejected within union down their throats by judicial fear legislative fear. So you go
yeah, you go on to say, h g wells called the old guard, the good liberals, the ones who speak in measured. Let me before I read it. Let me just ask you this question:
So when you say they send out so I saw it happen you I don't know. I think I got you. I think you said that they like
cheat and steal. I do right out in the open and that's what they're doing now Nathan. They pay feel
due democracy. They know all the words to it and then they send a hug
id billion dollars to the most corrupt countries.
grain right in your face at the snap of a finger while they
it sent a hundred billion dollars to san diego san francisco, used in Dallas miami philadelphia, new york, chicago minneapolis, so we can fix our
homeless people move around everywhere. They do it right in your face now. So my question is what
they get out of that like if you're gonna send a hundred billion dollars which are just inventing anyway right. That's not real tax revenue. That's just invented money,
So why don't they just invent a hundred billion dollars and send it to america at the same time, so people I dont, get what they get out of. Not
Doing that. Do you well because,
sustaining raytheon, boeing.
All of these arms contractors who found the party right, an answer,
What they get out of it is their serving their master.
There serving those
corporations that give them political power mean. If you took away this money they would have political power policy or who would put these people in power,
Even a pyramid is just a circle,
exist, and then they are not about to are in order
These petitions to get money out,
in politics, mailing them in to your representatives, is misses the fact that all of this most of the moment,
Those people would wouldn't be there without this system and that is
their power, and so there serving theirs
as a power, which is why what these stocks have gone up. I think thirty, thirty
five percent or something since the war you grant. Yes, there only stocks that are going up area the stocks going down. I over, don't I trade stocks. We know where the money. I know why didn't I, just by rate that editor, what I was so no cara boy bitcoin
anyway, so I
yeah we? I understand why they do that, like. I understand why they fund a hundred billion dollars to to ukraine, because there
further donors and that's they're doing, but why
At the same time, setting over two billion dollars do america, that's what I've been saying in. The reason I come up with is that the government, the united states,
people think that our government is just regular corrupt. They have no idea that it's a hundred percent totally corrupt and completely purchased by corporation, so the gears of
the government only work in the direction of corruption.
Gotta have money to grease those wheels to get it going. There's gotta be corruption, and so it just doesn't work. The other way like you say, the levers of government have seized up. It just doesn't work to help. People is that right. Am I right close yeah, but it's even worse than that I mean because now you have the fed and the center
banking system to curb inflation. Water is what are the two objectives
it's two on create more unemployment and reduce wages. Yes, that's how we're gonna kick care
their open about it? They want they want. They want more unemployment,
they say it. Larry summers was sittin it at his behalf in the bahamas. Eder swiftly, look great by look great, had a grant tat at any socket about how we gotta get people out of work so that that's that's why
So you caught, you say: hd wells called the old guard, the good liberals, the ones who speak and measured words and embrace reason, the inexplicable men they
say the right things and do nothing, that's what we have now and with the in the democratic party they are
is vital to the rise of tyranny, as are the christian fascist, a few of whom held the house hostage last week by blocking
or two rounds of voting to prevent kevin mccarthy
from becoming speaker by the time it
Dorothy was elected on the fifteenth round, he had caved in nearly every demand made by the obstructionists, including permitting anyone
the four hundred and thirty five members of the house to force a vote for his removal at any time. Thus guy
guaranteeing political paralysis now is that
true and b. I guess you think it is. You wrote it, but a b
Why would the he allowed that mccarthy or but some correct me if I'm wrong,
Wasn't this the way it always was in their nancy policy. Change that rule or ex will correct me. If I'm wrong,
yeah. No, that is true
however, it does appear that the disease
figures within the freedom carcass intend, just like the guy
a ban on remember. They intend to whole Mccarthy hostage
I mean there's a real, I think, there's a intent ah, but to hold a hostage to push through their agenda.
About that. You know the idea that mccarthy we're like
Those chinese somehow respects democratic institution,
frances. It's just wrong
isn't about all? Is a battle for powers, not a battle for
over ideology, Mccarthy, who was backed by large retail grain.
He's, a morally bankrupt is, as they are
In the majority support in this taxes, lawsuit trying void the twenty twenty election results in pennsylvania, michigan wisconsin in georgia. I e he advocates of tat
there's not, there's no mccarthy it it's all about power, meaning an empty suit. He he's the male nancy Pelosi, it's all about power and money in an gap and its end, so taxes
As for the wealthy, further deregulation of corporations, war on
immigrants, there's no really very little daylight between him and the freedom carcass right.
Or him and nancy Pelosi and chuck tumor
yeah. Well there very little. The differences is rhetorical. Yeah yeah in terms of policy, no, no terms,
policy. No, we as we learn with Donald trump right when Donald trump became president he didn't
legislate and any differently than any of the other people. In fact, he departed less hispanics
and Barack obama and ethics.
and he started less wars that Barack Obama and Joe Biden. So it was the exact
opposite of what chomsky always says, which he's wrong.
Every four years I just want to let people know every four years is always going to roll chomsky out on a dolly. So he could tell you to go vote for the Jed, the devil
brad, even though the democratic not the lesser of two evils, as was proven by bill,
Clinton and george Bush. The first isn't the list.
have to evil by the way supposed to be like. Ah, I don't want to do this. I got no choice and not smugly self righteously. I chose the latter. Is democracy. The irony of everybody saying that that midterm was about democracy and the first thing they did when they got elected was commit fascism against the railroad workers facilitate area. It's ok! So then you talk about this junk politics.
Because you said this political vacuum so that there is a better political vacuum created right, because nobody in government actually represents the people. They only represent their corporate interests, which means it's completely control
and it's not really a democracy which I've been trying to tell people. Do you
If you lose your democracy on january, six that didn't undermine democracy. Your democracy was stolen from you decades ago. It's adorable that people think that somehow a bunch of yahoos in pajama, bottoms and buffalo helmets were going to overthrow the military industrial complex. That is, the united states,
They did roger. We almost lost all their jimmy. So you talk.
about that you say the political vacuum that has been spot, which gave us donald trump at
spawned a thing you say: anti politics are what the writer Benjamin that democratic demott called joke politics
six, which personalized moralizes issues and interests instead of clarifying them junk paul
takes maximizes threats from abroad, while, while miniaturizing large complex problems
at home were living. So this is what we ve been screaming about it. This show is that there's there we have
and military bases. They say only eight hundred, but you know: there's a thousand military bases around the world, draining our treasury
the same way every empire ends, and then we have still have the countries poor,
low income. Eighty percent of workers would pay ejected paycheck fifty percent a wage earners earned
two thousand dollars or less that's a failed state that we live in people get sick, they go bankrupt, people living and they ve minimize all that that we're living in that right. This is what's so now
have jumped politics, could you talk a little bit more about that yeah? What this is
marge term any wrote a good book on it. It's the ceaseless flood of patriotic religious macho therapy.
eureka positions to essentially uncouple issues from
reason: foundations to use his words and an infant realises in families as the public
It's with this year around a big christmas tales about, but the function is essentially to solidify the status quo and protect the interests of the billionaire class
I know there is no doubt that the forms of crime
through the social bonds. Are there used to keep people in china
or a massive prison system along
just in the world, went right. We have about twenty. Twenty five percent of the world's prison population were less than five percent of the world's population. Of course,
These rapacious militarized police forces, especially in post industrial.
Areas where they function is
internal armies of occupation. There's no, in fact, binding was one of the major architects of all of this with the nineteen. Ninety four omnibus crime bill
There is no difference that the wholesale surveillance of the public,
Your government watches you twenty four hours a day. Are you can,
user? Were liberty, that's the relationship
astern asleep when you
get the actual them to the fund.
the metal policies. Trade deals.
Sturdy de industrialism, ah stripping
way of civil liberties under the patriot act, and there is that the two parties are completely unlocks step
they will argue about tangential
cultural issues are not minimizing a woman's right to come.
polar body and abortion in any way.
But on these fundamental structural issues as that, which is why corporations fund both parties, so
that's one. Another thing people realize so this is this is pissy speaks exactly
to what I've been saying. Not only on the show, but in my stand back that people have price, because I stopped
a democrat when the Democrats treat cheated jean Bernie sanders right and then
Sanders
decided he'll. Never stop rolling over
that machine and the democratic party and the as I put it. I got a sock, the blue cock, red cox, abrupt blue cox, a full of liberty, and so that's what he's good at it. So I still, I still have friends who
say that the Democrats, just if they just would fight a little harder if they were just a little bit better at their jobs, and I have to remind them there are performing their job. Perfect,
if you ever go to a harlem trotters gave. You know that they need the washington generals and that's exactly what the Democrats are there to do as to pretend that their act,
in fighting for you there, but they always are going to lose in the corporations, always gonna win, and that what people need to realise is that the same guy,
who pays the harlem
rob trotters the same, no pays the watch it and generals, just like the same guy who paid
Rock obama is the same guy who paid mitt, romney george MC george bush, the same thing and now
You have the scared point. Blank and recording say I also found the Republicans, but I have to do it. Dark monies
president mad, did he say:
yeah. No honourable borgias, you just give him more whoever's. The winner, you, Daniel more gentle of war and the
you go on to say- and I have said this- that
you know the reason why they didn't like donald trump. Wasn't
the reasons they said they did. They didn't like donald trump, because he
he was lying in Washington DC. That's why I never loved my god. Did you hear there's lying David?
can, because he would accidentally tell the truth every once in a while, like, for instance,
they asked him why you keep the soldiers in syria and he said for the oil they're like you can like you is for the exits are roya were taken. Do I get this guy here? You can't give the game away like that and that's exactly in plus. He puts an ugly face
on our and the face of empire lies aramis,
as pointed out many times, but Joe Biden.
and so you say, the billiard class for the most part prefers the mask of Joe Biden as opposed
to the massacre, donald trump, who deathly broke
The freight railway unions to prevent, could you
Imagine all people go crazy of donald trump, a billionaire asshole like he is crushed a railroad strike.
Union. They needed a guy like Joe Biden, gentle pennsylvania, Joe blue collar, and the debate he's the greatest propos union trip precedent in the history of our country. That might be true, but he still an enemy of the workers who deftly broke the freight railroad unions to prevent a strike and force them to accept a contract. The majority of union members had rejected, but the billion or class also knows
that the goons and con artists of the far right will not interfere in their disembowelling of the nation. Indeed, they will be more robust and thwarting the attempts of workers to organise for decent wages and working conditions. So that's what
people dont realise, is that
Joe Biden has got the same agenda as those guys as these were. It would create right wing crazy, right wingers as you
We voted for them because they have this.
Agenda of the billion or class, and I'm going to take it.
We would like does. That is really interesting that I've that's what made me think,
The reason why mac gets and they were allowed to do what they are doing, because all the things they got except for the cotton, military foot and spending. I think that is
Billinger classes, ok with, whereas if the squire
as for medicare for all or fifteen dollar minimum wage. They could that cave on that? What do you say Chris
yeah, so that you know that this is the point tat the about over the kind of facade
no you're right about trompe was kind of goshen impulsive.
Another very braden would ensue.
NATO allies- and what do you call him when he ran for president, he called a racket
big fat mistake or something which, of course was a means to an end,
and so they love that veneer. That Biden presidencies completely
there is one doesn't really know how sentient Biden actually is
try it out and cleaned up and ah like reagan,
and yet so it's about
the presentation, but these corporate forces that rumor after
january six, all these corporations wooden fund election deniers and yet, whether all back to funding all of these people again of democracy is not a democratic forest. Democracy works quite well in factor in on democratic order,
rotarian systems, you saw it. I wanted you not drunk too many parallels divine
germany and the nazis, but it was much the same and I join in-
Austria, less and all the good bourgeois power
She didn't want other buffoons. Nazi party hitler was
in german was austrian. Didn't speak very good german.
They didn't want him in power
but once he was in power, they are quite happy. You know that the big industries crops and everybody else to bank role him
ah and the nazi party in the work with him, and that's exactly the same.
You're. So tromp was a kind of embarrassment to the empire, but trumped in any way.
threatened the empire and am sure does the political
system devolve into a seer
is our trump like political
leaders they will they will work quite happily with men. In fact, of course, these people are even
we're aggressive against labour unions than the democratic party
in the sense that they are willing to take even more draconian forms to two were to crush them. So you it
so. Finally, my last slide from your articles. I watched fringe politicians in yugoslavia rather than cart, correct, zig, zag
say his name: Slobodan milosevic, autobahn kurdish heritage, ok, Slobodan milosevic in franjo,
two german and enough. That's right, dismisses by police
go and educated elites as buffoons they rolled
anti liberal wave to power in the wake of widespread economic misery, while
my amazon, apple, citibank rate the annex on mobile alphabet. Goldman Sachs will easily adapt because capitalism functions very
efficiently without democracy
there has been in my whole lifetime. We haven't had democracy in my alighted. I grew red adjoining. That's right, that's exactly right, so this is what we ve been
nine to tell people and not people- are waking up to it. So it's over, and I think our countries over that as you let your book print fruit. But what we're trying to say is that trump,
was a cartoon virgin,
the real fascist, that's on his way and their end
the same conditions that gave us donald trump. Was it racism that wasn't what gave us
donald trump, wasn't racism. What gave us that ultra, we just elected a black eyed president, two times in a row,
well overwhelmingly and a lot of.
People who voted for him voted for trump, and it wasn't because a racism is that's. What people want you to think is. There is trouble
prices is theirs, racism, Mary! Yes, that's nice!
What gave us trump? What gave us trump is people desperate, economically
as a class war has been waged against workers in this country. Since nineteen eighty and it's been won by the a billion our class- that's why that's? Why
black people in Milwaukee voted for Barack Obama twice their lives
worse, and then they wouldn't go out and vote for Hillary Clinton now, because black people are racist, because black people got let down by the
democratic party and the establishment, time and time and time again, and the game is over now they're willing to vote for khartoum game show host. That's how
it's gotten than what you're saying here is you we ve seen this game before and its,
to get even worse. You're gonna get a real, strong man who who actually does have dictatorial of ideas. Trump didn't have the guy: if
if covert happen. If he was a dictator he wouldn't have given
it all back to the states anyway were get nothin
weeds. Buddy was so go ahead in and, if you'd like to comment on that last slide, the other important point. So in my book, america,
farewell tour. I go out to Anderson Indiana, which is where jean.
used to have all its plans to twenty five thousand unionized
Workers once worked in those plants with decent wages,
two fifty dollars an hour benefits well courtesy of bill,
when the nafta, those plans for literally trance
for a monterrey mexico there now these gigantic vacant law,
surrounded by cyclone vengeance.
Anderson Indiana went into the tale span of well post industrial cities with the open
crisis suicides- and I
to the old you a w
leadership in the city, and they said dora
in the primary these guys all voted for sanders, but they
we're never gonna vote for Hillary Clinton and saw that
the way, w didn't even try and tell them not to vote for tromp. They said okay vote for trot but then voted
the democratic sleep in the state didn't work? I
it s. Just a disconnected from every part of the problem is that do
commercial or establishment press has rendered all these people invisible or if we see them their figures of brief figures of ridicule
and why are they invisible or because advertisers
what you see them, that's not how they make their money. I mean look at all the special sections. In light
Your times where I used to work like what's the living section about its about? Oh
struggles of maintaining the second house in the hamptons or whatever it is. I mean it's, not your life.
Style. It's not my law.
Start, but it's the lifestyle of people their catering to ah,
and so yeah. We have seen it
for I saw it in myself
in yugoslavia, it's not to go back and red Aristotle be writes about it in politics. What was that
Five thousand years ago, you said that when there's that kind,
imbalance at an end.
Stop. Prosy seizes control in the only two options, a revolution or tyranny, and unfortunately there has been a quite affect
the war against the old laugh that kept this country straight, including the communist party, has been raised from America
yesterday, but the old labour unions, the old sea. I owe the wobbly, is the
w w everybody else, they were
Just then in a rolling raza campaign, eviscerated rated and voice
like mine, or than I
No, my do disagree with them on the election stuff, but he is an important figure.
It has been very important to me. Yes, you know what happened and no nomes campbell plea. I mean you, you know you.
make a strong argument. That is our most important intellectual. We don't agree on bs, which I support and a few other things, but nevertheless, season
you know important intellectual he's, better known
ants.
Then he is in the united states.
So the that form of
troll over information
and those forms of control on
popular radical movements that kept a rapacious oligarchy.
capitalist system, at least in
fact somewhat. Lumber welcomed the new deal was courtesy of massive
Where's of strikes in the night,
in the thirties and and Roosevelt was astute enough to realise that either
sessions were mainly writes about this in his private correspondence to his brother.
We make those concessions or we endure revolution. They rolled haunted by nineteen
Seventeen and russia linking that it would happen here so but
counterweight, is gone and and
and that's extremely dangerous, and and I why
fear where were headed, there's just no raw
she'll response to the very serious suffering and misery in for
stray chauvelin
spare. That is a gripping the countryman, even the most teapot
campaign promises made by Biden, have been jettison. Fifteen dollars an hour wars that, in a worse child
care, I'm all the stuff that he promised had just went up.
Smoke or you may not remember it, but I mean somebody in the democratic party asked, remember it and so
when I am told to be more polite to politicians,.
It's because in my mind, because those people who are saying that don't understand the gravity of the situation that were it and they think that
all those people have health care, are those people have comfortable lives, could quote, and they don't really see what's up,
Maybe they don't understand that we are a failed state and that it,
it demands a revolution, it was creepy. Did you not to be? You know, be polite to politicians.
they don't mean, like you see him in person and your yell at them on your show, just observing that muscle is where you're supposed to do that rep supposed to be nice. So I I think that there's
left in america in america the left is not connected to workers. The left is connected to middle class, ass wipes, who care more about
gender pronouns and they do about working class problems, and am, I think, that's the truth.
you think, will ever have a revolution in this country. Are christian, small and staten island organised. So that's the thing
We get a along class lines one and when people say
that didn't realize what they're saying there saying you have to organize with trumpery right with people who voted for trump, which is what christians malls did
amazon and staten island. Do you think
Why do we see more than you think we will and you think, deliver beer real revolution cause? If there is, I would love to be part of it right.
I think it will only come through that kind of organizing you're and your dead right. You know Ralph NATO's been saying this for a long time. We have to work
the around common economic interests. Large corporate
Walmart was amazon, thinks the largest employer walmart, the second, those tour,
innovations have to be unionized, but of courses,
as you create a union small did, amateur
has lots away, which they're doing now to essentially chip away at that unions.
Our getting rid of people within the amazon plan, who we, you think a signatory
to get rid of them that they were
war against any kind of you,
in our activity because strikes or the one weapon that the working class
ass has the only yes,
just why Biden and is it
illustration, stepped into prevent a rail strike because they know
you go back to the last real strikes: nineteen, twenty two and others you can
billy shut down. The country can do serious economic damage, and that
the only the
we mechanism, we have to fight
I'm not in the political arena, it's not through the democratic party, it's true, but what
was starting from scratch about tat. I ten percent or something of the
america. Workforce is unionized a lot of those public employees who don't can and the right to strike can be taken from
I'm we're almost having to start from ground zero, and if you look
the economic crisis of the nineteen thirty's? Thank god we have
strong radical popular labour movement because those were the
movements that prevented fashion
Some remember that there was a they love,
If mussolini and hitler ford and always figures,
and they got smedley butler, the former marine or generally flirted with
to try and actually carry out a good eight are so those popular forces that that represent the militant forces that defence
the interests of the working class once
are gone, others
no bulwark left
and tyranny and end, and so were scrambling.
And then we ve got all these taft, hardly at nineteen, forty, seven and all
a union laws right to work laws. Everything else leave the oligarchs have been quite mythology.
go and destroying the capacity of workers to organise and protect themselves, and that
why there pushing unemployment there and they don't
and hide it coming and there's no
no kind of moral calculus. Nobody sit around, ask you are pushing unemployment would have,
to these people went out with their families. What happened
to their children. Will that's just the price of bringing down
inflation in the republicans or the Democrats are both completely on board with it,
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