Jimmy talks to former biotech executive turned GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy about the Canadian truckers' protest, the COVID vaccine, January 6th, the Israel-Hamas conflict and more! Plus a segment on Federal Reserve Bank executive Neel Kashkari trashing digital currencies! Also featuring Kurt Metzger, Mike MacRae and Stef Zamorano! And phone calls from Al Pacino and Hillary Supporter!
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To it. So we were a very excited first,
to see you at the g, o p debate, and you were speaking of rare
proved that people also want to play a little bit of it. It will give the great replacement theory is not some grand right wing, conspiracy, theory, but a basic statement.
the democratic parties platform.
So that's use obviously one more time that the great replacement theory is not some grand right wing, conspiracy, theory, but a basic statement
democratic parties platform,
ok so now
when you said that the great replacement theory, what how would you define what that is defined?
What I was certainly jacket about is the theory that basically says that if you displace certain native white populations in the united states with immigrant populations that that's a path, the lasting electoral majorities and electoral victory for the democratic party- and that's exactly been a statement of the democratic parties- intentions for about the last, at least ten plus years,
back to back to get this philosophy. Jimmy is you just when you want somebody's believes a good rule to start with this. Just take them at their word,
when they say that that's their belief actually believe him.
That's a Joe Biden within ten years ago, with my arcas by aside from stacy abrams to leftwing publications,
they ve been saying this for years that over the long run this report, the lasting democratic victories ends.
I think we should debate on the merits. Is that desirable, or not for the united states of america,
instead of having this debate. What they meant to do now is to say, as they ve done on it,
Why did you stating what I'm already advocating for somehow you a fringe conspiracy theorist? I reject that. I don't think that's good for our policy,
We should be able to have an open disagreement on a policy debate honestly acknowledging that there is a policy agenda at work and you can decide whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing, but at least get the facts on the table of what actually happening
so we can debate it. Ok, so how hopefully be able to intruder, interrupt you board to make you feel more, like your on cnn going forward.
I wasn't sure it was about cnn, since you brought him up about this topic on the great replacement theory jimmy for him away from it too yeah. So so I after that debate,
stage. Actually in the spin room, I wouldn't didn't interviewed cnn, and am I had several third rails that seen in lost their mind on, but this
one of them, and so the woman database spends like five minutes. Maybe ten minutes grilling me on how this is just a conspiracy, but
I explained or a lot of facts from like your exact quotes from democratic strategies, and then she does Paul.
This is why I I'm not going to use the word like as in great replacement theory.
But you can save for a second, let suppose what you're saying is true.
What's so wrong with that which it?
was a brilliant moment because that's exactly the debate, we should have an having the whole time, but that doesn't it
but anymore, more and part of my job- and this is, I think, sometimes any conservatives, although sloppy when they talk about these concepts. I think we need to speak about these with precision.
but once we do, I think we could have honest debate in this country that were not having
So I remember them saying when I used to vote democratic. I remember them saying especially about taxes that demographics.
destiny, which I think is right, another way of saying replacement theory, while their jones really took exception to when you said that
play that right now, smug condescending way. Did he just speak?
this poison out
very, very dangerous because he won't stop tromp, but he's
outlived sought by about fifty years in europe.
Watching the rise of american demagogue. That is
very, very despicable person and I'm out with lily. I was I was shaking, listen to him too.
That is one step away from nazi propaganda coming out wow, so you literally made van Jones shake you caused a jones quake. I dunno. If you know that it's nice, but I think it's nice of them to say, you're going to live along, though I bet he could tell you work out
the scale of a you know. That's that's that's the kind of shake we we got into Van jones at you know the funny thing I I hadn't paid attention to this guy until somebody, but the people sent me that clip and I saw it on social media and so who's. This van jones character. I discovered something funny actually which is interesting to bring this
the circle, one of the things that I said on the debate stage, which is this supposed conspiracy theory, it's just a statement of fact actually based on declassified documents, whether the us government was not straightforward with
How can people about what really happened on nine eleven, that there was saudi arabian involvement because a saudi intelligence asian absolutely received?
with the hijackers. It's its aside point not a core point of this presidential campaign with the point
thing is to bring this full circle. Banjo just call me conspiracy, dearest. He actually gotten
Who did from the obama white house for actually questioning some of the official narratives on nine eleven?
That's funny how these things jane. Member that I forgot about this I do I remember sitting so fascinating is, as you know it- and so I was just like- was vandals. Guy is similar,
like a clown or a dwell hit me, but I always give people well. He hasn't happened since the curiosity show he is. He is a he's, a he's not as he's not a clown he's not that funny, but he is a paid shill and here's here's what you are van jones on cnn afterwards saying this.
the rise of an american demagogue, who's gonna live fifty years longer than drop. This is dangerous. I am shape
That's what he says.
just show up just shut the point up: okay language, but I want to just show you this because
Van Jones actually did say exactly the thing that you're exclaiming,
left was saying, and here let me play it for you. Basically, requests from the russian gas is left,
isn't it one away?
The jury to go from being a majority to being a minority and like it,
the tough requests
and the reality in the changes are.
Changes? You want is hard change. It is good boy talk
but the real, a pot calling the kettle smog
that gives up get yourself trouble, so he calls himself the racial justice left. I thought the whole problem with the justice system was,
overly racial. It was in the first place by
here. We are so what
there he is saying the exact thing that you said it he's calling you a nazi for basic.
We calling him. How do you respond to that? Irish
and that by saying the hypocrisy is rank, but it's familiar. I mean you saw this in the critical race theory debates around schools as well right because they would say conserves on a band critical race theory and then they would say. Oh that's, not critical race theory returned to kindergartners. It's something else. Well, okay, fine! This is where conservatives, I think, gotta be a little more precise.
That's why I see my role in this is actually hitting the nail a little bit more on the head, but they're good at trolling conservatives by effectively saying the very thing that is true. It's a conspiracy theory when your opponents say it a conservative, says it, but it's just a policy statement when you say it, and so I think that the left has always been verbally, at least at verbal jujitsu may be tried, thought of themselves smugly as being a half step ahead.
I'm only going to let him get away with that and said. Oh, I think I believe in having the debates on the merits, use their own words, take them at their own word and the let's actually talk
about whether this is right or wrong policy. I think it's wrong policy.
but either way we should be able to air that dialogue instead of actually avoiding the debate by labeling, racist or xenophobic are homophobic transfer, baker,
Dangerous climate deny or make van jones shape that's not a basis for eliminating an argument
That's the way I roll you're sounding very white supremacy, but I'd say it look like it due to your ties near the words the white supremacist, calling the kettle brown. The first call that you haven't been called come up a couple of times. I I asked them if they actually turned on their camera feature when they were talking to me.
I want to switch shift gears and talk about covert, and here you are recent.
You came out in support of the canadian truckers right. The freedoms, convoy truckers, truckers.
Are just hollers of goods, their guardians of our way of life and guardians of freedom of our highways last
the canadian freedom convoy taught the world a valuable lesson about the power of civil protest against it out of control,
tell tarrying government on thursday December twenty
join me in walcott, and I were eighty, the world's largest drugs job, where I will lay out my detailed plan for how we support our truckers and arson
I Jane, while ensuring freedom for all so doubts of,
just go ahead and tell me why you always on board for the truckers? Did it take you a while to wake up to what was happening in no, I didn't just,
now that executives on bill mars show right as it was playing out. Actually I dunno it was about a year ago whenever it was
over a year- and I said the same thing back that that this is the great reset,
on one side versus the great uprising, I'll be the other and in a big part of this is not just
U s issue! It's a transnational issue. You ve seen equivalent movements in western europe and here in the united states,
so you. I said that a bit more time and to my pleasant surprise. He actually was more receptive to that argument than I
expected, but but I don't wanna things have happened in that situation. That bothers me. That's relevant policy today is that they actually used the backdoor, not the front door, but the back door of locking their finance blocking their access to their bank accounts
who scared assume. I hate this so much, I'm allergic to it. They they used. They used, I would say, a financial back door use of force to suppress that freedom convoy across Canada and this across border trucker. So there's a relevance to the united states too. That's one of the reasons. One of the many reasons why I'm against a central bank, digital currency in the united states have been one of the leading opponents in the united states and probably in the west, against the rise of this so called e s g movement, which is a really an alternative social credit scoring system that uses weaponization of financial markets to get the.
people to do what the government couldn't get them to do directly through policymaking, and that's a bit of what we saw with the freedom convoy. So you know tip of the hat. Bravo to you on that here. I want to ask you about this because it
If you say, yeah
the variants are more likely to emerge with greater transmission. Its correct, but she's also wrongly assumes that slowing
spread in the united states, which enjoys widespread vaccination, will read
the development of new variants.
What new variants aren't emerging in the united states there emerging in places with a higher percentage of unbox needed individuals. Those very
science are the ones that have the greatest potential to drift and possibly shift away from
the strain the initial vaccines were designed to protect against, though
Strange, won't disappear with masking
social distancing policies, but the efficacy of
maxine's will so
What was your stance exactly on? That is the first time I read that is going to read
It sounds to me, like you're kind of blaming the unvaccinated for the variance. No, no, no, actually just just read it carefully to understand that it's a very technical piece and a lot of people at galkayo. Even if it we live in a twitter fide world people don't have I dunno about how much you know about my background. I studied molecular biology in undergrad I developed a number medicines are fda, approved and so wearing. A very different hat.
Begin to technical detail. Here is the point I was making new variance, or
not necessarily a bad thing. The title of that article slow it down question mark. No, let it spread or let it rip that title instead, the whole premise was you wanted, or the best way out of the covert pandemic.
Actually let it spread? You get serially milder and milder strains that would have taken care of the pandemic
I was really criticized when I wrote that I mean a lot of people on the left called me, calling with a death colthurst recalling for death in the united states,
Finally, what did you end up seeing later on? That's exactly what got us over the pandemic, and so in the OECD.
is the pandemic. I will say that I was less sceptical of the vaccine that I am now in a lot of the facts of come out now, especially
the safety side of things. I did get the first two shots. I regret it
as a young, healthy man. I had no reason to mylar is doing
can fly around and you know that if you get him,
airplane or otherwise. You had to show double vaccination and cited as a matter of convenience.
I wouldn't do it again and we kept our kids back away from it. But when you think about the actual right policy, the
well the idea of new variants. They were serially, milder and milder. If we had just let it rip sooner, we would have gotten it through sooner to other countries actually had that experience and were actually a lot smarter about it than the united
aids we got through the pandemic a lot sooner, if we didn't have blocked downs and active, wouldn't have
vaccine policies policy, combined with the lock down, which in many ways was the worst of all worlds, and so did I was I boy he just looked at the title, the
article, is exactly what it ok, ok, slow it down would spread is what it said. That's you got it right. I had doktor robber, maloney or I might show in the summer of twenty twenty one. He explained that to us, and so we were about at least a year and a half or two years ahead of everybody else in
in the media on that. So it's good to see that you are on that too. So, congratulations on that that is actually is.
We should have when it didn't go. Are you for prosecuting?
found she because he lied to congress about funding the gain of function by a research,
did it twice I some twice. Not only did he lie about that, but he lied about masks. He lied about heard. Immunity lied about natural immunity, lied about the efficacy of the the transmission.
contractual all that stuff. You lied about. Every thing are you for its prosecuting using because I am yet so
amber narrowly and discuss, but I am against weapon rising the justice
Estimating us a lot of things. You name you could say that there are just things he didn't know right here had he did know about what the transmission of data was whatever, but on funding the
origin of the pandemic on actually using us taxpayer money to fund it through the back door? What was banned here in the united states
That's a violation of law so based on the public facts we have, it looks like that's exactly what happened: I'm always
a fan of letting the justice system proceed and if there are other facts to the contrary that come out of the trial or otherwise
I'm always open, having my mind changed, but right now that looks pretty damning and I do think we need accountability. So would so what I support investigation to get to the bottom of an absolutely. I would and would have let the court system do what is supposed to do without prejudice to the outcome. Of course, I'm always a personal believes in
you know in letting the court system run it's course, but is an investigation warranted here? Should we absolutely take a look at this? Just like you would for any other criminal breaking the law based on the facts that we see it does look like. He broke the law to use taxpayer money to fund gain of function, research which
banned in the united states, but the intentionally do it through the back door in a way that led to a global pandemic. We have to get to the bottom of that and without accountability. You can expect far worse than that.
Your sales of ever holding china accountable for certain of the decisions they made in. I believe,
was purposely allowing the global spread of something that was already spreading in china and its clear that they made certain decisions that need to be held accountable for, but I can't do soul. China accountable, if we're not holding the bed actors here accountable, is
So that's what I've ever. So. What is your position? I julian assange? Pardon they want ok, moving on,
As for what is a long list of day, one pardons he's on it
The reason why is, among other reasons,
chelsea manning the government. You know him.
Lee who leaked to Julian assange had her sentence commuted effectively got pardoned by president obama. Why? Because she's transgender, I have doubts of whether she's transgender or not. She might just be smart, knowing that's exactly what you had to claim to be in order to be a politically favoured member to get clemency from the obama administration, but regardless julian assange, the guy who just published it sitting in foreign excellence in prison. That's wrong! He's on my and it's it's! It's a no, not small list of day. One pardons but he's on. My list of people
we'll get pardon and he will be a free man in the united states of america on january, twenty, twenty twenty five. So, let's move under Israel? Here's! What do you treated about it I'll? Give you a chance to clarify anything. You want you say
I was the moment for israeli, returned to its founding premise: the jewish state has an absolute right to exist.
divine give two gift into a divine nation charged with a divine purpose is right
has an absolute and unequivocal right and responsibility to defend itself to the fullest.
Applying the only language, its adversaries understand the language of force and what
What David Ben gurry say don't depend on anyone else's. Fleeting sympathies are permission to do it. If Israel
want to destroy Hamas. Israel should go ahead and destroy Hamas if Israel
want to destroy hezbollah. Israel should go ahead and destroy has,
good luck,
israel and massage want to pull off munich to point oh and take out every last leader of Hamas, wherever they may be, hiding from doha to dresden and
a red wedding at the four seasons and qatar, the next time Hannah and by Michel our show up. They should go ahead and do
so in exile.
great, except for the party, has blood, but to do so.
Its leader left, a wonder what ben gurry and would say we could just read his quotes. Element is read a couple to you. We must
expel arabs and take their places and if
have to use force not to dispossessed the arabs of the negative venture trends jordan, but to guarantee our own
two settled in those places. Then we have force at our.
Disposal? Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves: politically, we are the aggressors and they
defend themselves
countries there's, because
they inhabited, whereas we want to come here and settle down and in their view we wanted,
take away from them their country behind
Terrorism is a movement which, though
primitive, is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice, so.
doesn't that kind of blow your argument out of the water. I just quoted that guy and he's saying that we're taking their land, here's my view on it, and I wanted to let you finish that, so I could tell you what my view is and you can look at the totality of what I've said here. I have a
Radical revelation I'm running for president of the united states, not for the president,
Israel or any other country
some people running for you as president, makes that up a little, but I dont, I'm pretty clear about which contributing to be president of, in my view, with
Against this backdrop, Israel's and ally Israel should be allowed
do what israel needs to to defend itself and also to make its own determinations
but this is all against the backdrop of me being probably the only person that europeans feel the detriment clear about this. We should not get involved in that. I am against the
sixteen billion dollar fourteen billion dollar aid package. For this specific war. I think that's better for israel and better for the united states, so my view is that I think that Israel's founding premises, it has a right to exist david, been going what it said without the sympathies of the west and without the micro management of the west great. I grew that I think that israel does have the right to exist. I would stand diplomatically for israel's right to defend itself, but I dont think the: u S should be militarily intervening in.
this war and against that backdrop, yes, I have a lot to say diplomatically in favour of what Israel decides to do in this whole debate within Israel on government keep in mind,
Not everybody in Israel's own government agrees with what they should be doing, if only the american press. Actually,
I would say the same type of critical inquiry of the,
his own leadership in Israel that these really presses. There's a lot of debate for Israel to habitats. Israel's decision to make not
and so I think we muddy the waters when were
a engaging militarily or financially in the specific war or be trying to play armchair quarterback from any direction. So my view is it when I was asked what my opinion on what I believe of Israel. I love Israel as a country. I
we in Israel's right to exist? I believe Israel is an ally of us and our job is to stand diplomatically for it's right to self defense, but I'm against- and I think I'm alone- maybe thomas massie in the congress or whatever, but in the g o p amongst presidential candidates, I'm alone in saying we should not interfere in this specific conflict diplomatically. Given the air cover, they need to get their job done. Let israel make the decisions it needs to make. That's better for the united states better for his.
Well, doesn't muddy the waters and that's that's where I'm at so. Hopefully at least that's clear to you about my position. Well, that's certainly a little better of a position than most most of the people running for president, including Joe Biden, but our rfk
or or any one else am, I think, frankly, is a war or much the republican party crank.
As I say, jones,
for I
But let me I'm shaking that you said that, let me and let me,
he's clarify what I said earlier when I was reading your statement. I said that sounds great as being sarcastic, because I want to show you, when you say the right to self defence, danny, Hiven,
we did this out today. He says they: history was destroying entire neighborhoods in gaza instantly. So let's just watch this, so this is boom, so that does it look like
Defence to me, that looks like genocide was what is what they actually trying to do, and I just one
So do you think that's what that is. Do you think that that I confess I am looking at a camera, not at the what you just put up battle can only with the kinds of images your product putting.
ok, so they they wipe. It looks like they blew up an entire neighbourhood at once.
And so you see what they ve been doing, a news. You, you see the game there, they're playing, they told everybody to get out of the north of guys go to the south, and then they start
bombing them in the south are bombing hospitals there bombing rock schools, you and
a pretty g camps, their bombing, everything and their slaughtering, the so self defence, but he does not mean that you,
yet to relentlessly slaughter the enemy of your children in perpetuity, because I thought that's what they're doing so. What would companies when I come back to a simple principle, the automate being
light hearted about a serious topic, but I'm doing the interest of clarity. I'm running for president of the united states,
not the present of Israel or another middle eastern countries, and I think part of what happened in
grain and a lot of other places too. Is we create this
ambiguity that creates a moral hazard which the, u s, my being ambiguous, being sort of half in half hour
and sort of intervening sort of providing backing distort the decisions that other countries may, in my view, is we should be clear. Is rules are the same as ukraine? We diplomatically stand
israel in a strong way in a foundational ways, basic ally of the united states in the middle east, but we should not be introduced.
In this war. It's not our job to play global policeman, and I think that what I say that that applies in multiple different senses- I don't think we should be further. Engage,
I in this war in ukraine. I think that creates moral hazard for ukraine to the kids, things that ukraine, otherwise
wouldn't have done, remembers
ski wondering, negotiate a deal in the first six months of the
more before the west intervene and go to him to fight even more so my view is worth our worst,
when were engaging willy nilly waddling into some conflict. That's like a sloppily walling into some glass shop, breakin glass leave and leave places like iraq to Afghanistan.
Arguably worse off than they were when we showed up my view, is this diplomatically stand for our allies to be able to defend them,
israel has the ability to do it. There are decisions,
Israel to make their risks and their consequences
decisions they may make visa, be their adversaries them at least let israel make its own decisions instead, a plain, onshore quarterback or backseat quarterback, whatever the whatever
needed extra medium is. Is it up bill batty, quarter, backing arm, chair,
I say what somebody else should do. My job is to take care of this country, and so I would tell me
You smoke the terrorists on your southern border of their threatening, you great. We have our own problem on our own southern
we're on the deal with that here. We diplomatically stand for your right to do it with
the, u n or anybody else or the eu or the? U s for that matter, cycle
analyzing in backseat quarterback inward you're supposed to do that's what I would say so
you said it several times that you diplomat
Please stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. Do you think,
they're doing is called defending themselves. So we're getting
then you get in the complicated
it looks like now they're responding to an attack right, so you can't just take a snapshot of what they're doing yet you can. Actually, what you see is a hostile attack by Hamas. I think what Hamas did to Israel was medieval. It was immoral. It was wrong, it was ghastly, it not only deserves to be condemned, it deserves to be responded to, and I think Israel has a right and responsibility to respond to that. So I think that it's not some.
in false moral equivalence. Somebody supposed to draw if you're just looking at this, not in the sense of what should the? U s, do, but just from the sense of what is the right thing or what is a sense of justice here. I don't think
Oh you count of the number of civilians that Hamas killed a new count, the number of deaths on the other side and say somehow that's a moral tabulation. It's even it's not once
innocently went in to kill innocent civilians. The other side
as a right to achieve deterrent for the future and make sure that doesn't happen again, but occasionally to make that decision on its own terms. I dont think that the EU s should be intervening in this situation, which is interesting,
the direction that I sense, you're, pushing me out of applying pressure, is very different. Fora have been experiencing for most of this race. From within the report,
a body which has been in the other direction that I'm not signing some blank cheque to Israel, which is most of the criticism that have taken so it's interesting in, and you know, I think that its edifying to sort of get a slightly different. We ve been posted from
slightly different direction, but I'm consistent, no matter who I'm talkin to here. Yes, we diplomatically stand for israel's right to do what it needs to, but it's not our job to play. Policemen and second guess their decisions. Just like it's, not our
to play, policemen and other parts of the world either, but when you say that they have a right to respond to the attack- and I told her seventh year starting the story in the third act, just like the people who support the ukraine war start the story in the third act:
Putin's invasion of the dawn bass when he invaded not to start a war, but to end one, and so you know how to tell that story, but you don't
to tell this story- and he was, as you know, is law you don't obligate and he has exactly of the united states to be. I don't, I don't think it's our job. I just have a beer,
different ever really simple view on the role of u s, leadership, and I think it's one lord Washington shared
but they ve been going in Israel. When we talk about george washington in this country, he's our founding father. Our first
Well, what would he say what he said in seventeen? Ninety six farewell address: we don't want foreign entanglements that don't advance our own interest to there's two guiding principles. For me, one is the people who we elect to run.
Our own government should be the ones who actually run our own government, not an unelected bureaucracy which runs the show today. And the second principle is that the people who we elect to run,
government o a moral duty to the citizens of this nation, not any other one but of this nation and so on far more concerned and in depth focused on economic mobility and the border crisis in the united states and the rise of violence
I'm in this country and taking care of our own citizens or thirty four trillion dollars in debt. While we're heading
foreign aid, willy nilly to other countries whose national debt per person is less than ours.
Don't think it is my job to be some sort of moral arbiter trying to play god adjudicating thousands of years of history and
other parts of the world that I dont think that we should be militarily engaged in the first place and yet
I do think that everyone has a role to play, but I'm not running for prison of the world and run for president of the united states, and I think that that moral clarity matters
as a father. My moral duty is to my two sons into my family and as much as I do care for people
We live in some other neighbourhood at three hundred miles away. If I could do some good there on a charitable based,
I would my moral duty to my family. Well, as president of the united states, my moral duty is to the citizens of this country, not any other one inside it.
Consistent advocate so, and you know I, I am a student of history and I could have a detailed intellectual discussion with you going back in different parts of the world from what
went on in armenia and azerbaijan that no one is talking about Israel, the ukraine and that's fine.
But the had I'm we're right now is is a guy is looking to lead this country, I dont, think its origin
Well, union are intervene in conflict unless it directly relates to the: u s: dry kg,
you on that, but you have to do. Have some have moral leadership by what's happening, it would,
ally of us there that we do support of financially is coming.
A genocide right out in the open and bit you will be appointing irony I went online- is on hold on all those that you will be appointing the u unembarrassed at her and then bastard, who has been consistently voting against any kind of you in.
action to stop what's happening there, so you will have a role to play in. So you can't just wash your hands of this. You will have a role in this role is clear about this cause, I'm not back in your question either. I dont think that
Un should be stopping Israel from doing what it's doing, and I, first of all, I don't think wow s should be subsidizing the un- let's just let's just get to that. I don't think the un really has a continued reason for existence, or at least the u s to continue funding it. That's where I'm at on that question as it relates to the genocide point, though I just want a positive for for a second there. I appreciate the respect away, we're having so much better than my dialogue with cnn
no one else, and so we were green and most things we might have slightly different point of view here. I just
and the genocide point. What is genocide refer to the elimination of a race. Well, you know what about twenty percent of the israeli population
palestinian, that's more than the black or hispanic population of united states and you no problem
arguably the best place on planet earth where palestinians live here
quality alive with actual civic respect is in Israel side. You take issue with the issue of somehow just lately using the word genocide
which refers to the elimination of arrays when the people of that race live the best possible live in the country that you're calling the perpetrator of that genocide and twenty percent of the population more than minority populations, even in this country,
Israel's population are palestinians or living with rights within that country? I think that there
Is a lotta responsibility to go around for other arab countries fulfil leadership both of the palestinian authority of Mahmoud Abbas? All the way to Hamas has failed leadership,
And you know it in Gaza is: I think that that something that yes involves a long history citizen,
The wall that I'm running for of castro history, professor at harvard I'm running, to be
of the united states, which is why my moral clarity, don't let movies that this country, without
meaning there are. Let me get one more question for my co host Kurt, because boy tell you the way you could spin that into somehow Israel's protecting palestinians and they have the best. I would not want to let your try would mean a corner now wanted to find out who now? Let me ask you a nail me: let me go to curb, could you have so you have a question?
I think that, based on the best of anybody of how to Michel as horses, him peace, I know Gallagher, ok, genocide
They say about, though wiggers in china would you'd better the palaces,
Forget it
and ethnic cleansing. I would call it I
throw genocide around. But what is as an ethnic cleansing?
all these videos that you see of the destruction. I know you can't see this particular one.
without looking to any of those,
actually, ambassadors from Israel just going.
of that. The things are saying are: are very scary, crazy and on watch
like wolf, blitzer cnn. We cover that story where
guises euro they're, all where we gotta do, Dresden, the call on Dresden, like that, was not a horrific crimes against civilians.
It was terrorism explicitly there.
We have to do that, so it's a little
like the way they have to do whatever they feel they have to do. We know what you point about there
their distorting choices. Does the money were given and is a good point, because without
The boredom I'll think they could do this level destruction a day they can't, but that what
do in any other country, like China actually went back to china and you're alive. What you do with
with other wiggers or die? What like this is:
and I dont know how you're gonna be able to attain. That would do
Data that would do in my issue. There is hypocrisy right of u S, companies that will,
Billy do business in changing without saying a peep why
criticising systemic racism in united states. My view is it's not the job of the? U s coming.
is to be offering moral commentary in either of those census make products and services for people who need them. That's what I've been cut.
I think most were in the last several years. To the extent I've been talking about the weaker human rights atrocity in china, it's not that it's our job to be the world's moral policeman. I think it's our job to look after us interests, but I've been critical of companies blackrock to nike to
Anyone else, d, J, b, morgan chase that will relentlessly self log ourselves for human rights,
its violations in the united states about the slaughtering of black americans without saying a peep about the actual atrocities where they are also doing business at the same time.
china and the reason is relevant for the. U s is virtually sent alaska top deplore, or does it want to try to stop diplomats Yang, create you? Did the alaska summit to paste tony
lincoln and our conversation was standing in the opening statement. China's born
minister or the one there diplomats is going off about how china wants to see the? U s do better on human rights. China wants to see the? U s stopped slaughtering blackmail,
guns and tony blinkin is just sitting there with a blank face just taken it on behalf of the united states when
is actually a million wiggers in concentration camps, subject to forced
there communist indoctrination
and worse injustice
if sheer numbers with the largest scale, arguable violation, human rights since the third reich of germany, that's just the sheer numbers of it:
What's that democracy is what I point to a million people in gaza
two million people a concentration again why
a strange millions, but no one is coming for sterilization right.
And now let me say these room which they can survive, barely dining and real. When my senses of all I would say, fervour were you guys is, and I think you, your sensing, this too there's a fight you. What will you may rightly want to pick? I'm not the person that you're picking at work, because I'm not invention is when it comes to conflict that don't directly relate to the? U s interest, I'm not just a gratuitous interventionist and
I know I'm running for republic again in a previous president ends. I don't blame you, because that's where most of the insane republican party actually is only intervening in sore
conflicts that don't have do with our interest? I want
I'm not that guy, but at the same time I think that anything that actually wants you to discussion between you, guys in and in a picnic hey later,
Chris Christie or or you know, any of the other jugglers will come in daily. Wouldn't call me this your warmongers and otherwise in in situations that don't advance our interests. That's the actual debate, but I want to be careful not to put myself just because I'm running for republican party president, I don't represent those views now. I want to make sure
guys understand that distinction. Ok. Well, I appreciate you come on. I hope he come back and we ll have a million more things to talk to you about, especially if we could push back on you
we grew comments, but we don't have time we're out its. I beg you for common on
and you know,
best of luck. This is what I appreciated and I talked about. Then. My first book woke nk a little bit and we only scratched the surface. But if we do talk next time we can even get a head start. So see you guys at least understand what
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the head of the federal reserve, minneapolis of the sky read for governor of California is, is theirs. They mazurka. Why my blinking now category? I think
I thought it was kill or peel from kill la kill, brunel shelf, so he's got something to say. This is a though he's got something to say about as the new central bank good currency
How does he see be disease? One is what does that been waiting rubber?
so listen what he says about it, I'm,
our current. Do you think that social dumping that you should be lucky seriously?
twenty vision you be looked into? It seriously. Just went what central bank digital currency central bank,
google currency? Think about that? Ok, so they can turn off your your money that the
flip of southern europe and they knew about it. I agree I had I been here.
I am as my colleague the butter reserve had talked about, we are examining it
I tell you my personal biases, I'm pretty sceptical. I keep asking anybody any
at the fed were outside and fed to explain it,
what problem this is johnny,
I can send anybody in this room. Five dollars within my right now
usually. So what is it that a seemingly sea could do that? Then we can do
and all I get is a bunch of hand waving I get about. Well, maybe it's better for financial inclusion. Maybe it's
for cross border remains is maybe is there any evidence that it is an
This order, my china, china, is doing it
I can see why china would do it
if they want to monitor every one of your transactions, you could do now with the central bank, digital currency. You can't do that would benefit if you,
those negative interest rates. You could do that with the central bank. Is your courage? You can't do that. Would then now and if you wanna directly tax customer account, you can do that with the central bank, digital currency. You can't do that would benefit by get
why china would be interested. Why would
american people before that.
Whose ago, what kind of shock
read your group, because I, like you, do a digital, I've. Never
how are we to do less right? What we already have it? Why centralizing? Why centralize? It that's a great point.
and china has that's great, just great we're gonna fully beach
I ran for governor of California. He could have been done
California, wealthier more here, that's the way you need it. That's the world were literally re, bold man not appreciated. I get it
I don't remember. Any of these platforms are what his policies were, but I like that, like what he just said really
something I hadn't thought of, but I feel like I should have yeah so this
Is now here's a doktor van down a shiva she's gonna talk about central,
bank digital crises that have happened. She says in her country loses this. Did you know this
I did notice and if you notice, you know, my country was the first baby made cash league.
wendy? Sixteen days utilization was for some action. Eight o clock in the evening allows midnight. Cash was illegal, the big knots and seventy percent of the economy crash. I do remember that.
This need utilization is now going all over the world and is a war on cash. They warm cash because cash
merely a medium of exchange. It has,
the value in itself, but just a promise. You read
the dollar noticed. I promised to be there when its digital.
Even a credit card. You know you're giving grants to the global financial system.
but when his crypto currency in the hands of algorithms in the hands of big tat, they will do what is happening in china.
Create social credit system to decide
New class system
you might have also followed that
All this has been happening
founder of the world economic forum, it a book, called the great reset on how to deal with the corbett crisis and one off and all everything we're seeing unfold is part of that great reset. But an element of that great tree set is you will own that
now, I'm a believer in the comments, and it would be so good or land was poems.
It. All seed was a commons if food is a cause if health was a commons saw that we had strong public health systems, strong community health system, deep knowledge about being help, but when caught shop says you will own nothing. He said
That's why you have gates not just owning the seat wanting to owner food, one of course controls the hell and now only land, this
any that, if ever there was a time for humanity to break up now is the time. So you just made the point. That's why you have building
Zoning the seeds owning the farm land use these the biggest private, far away
he's the biggest owner of phrases. Number two further astronaut format, well, reformer an astronaut bases. So this is real, and this is the time for people
need this. I mean that what they did the truckers in canada, they turned off their money, you're right,
and that's how they can control you now you can't do anything you can put gas in your car yeah. Well, all these either! That's why it's
so well areas to meet a watch. Anybody republican
we go on about china when all these companies you're gonna, have to do
with a make sure they're doing ok to do to be who do
your job
really admire. All these things about china are big.
Gimme that we're gonna have to have a war with eventually I guess we have
digital currency, then we can really get a big sentiment.
Directly to you grade without even going through an x ray any has once we have that
So let me play we want to put this one more time: the bank digital current eighty
You think back that a bank digital kurds and what she does talk funny like the job. Sorry, she talks
it will require in colombia battling with day the west coast. The car and say think digital
Do you think that digital by rubbing,
it'll current. Do you think that that is something that you should be lucky to seriously had turned to what
Should you be looking into it seriously, just what? What are your thoughts on gdp?
I am as my colleague the butter reserve talked about. We are examining it. I tell you my personal biases, I'm pretty sceptical. I keep us.
Anybody anybody.
the fat were outside the fed to explain it
What problem this is shining?
I can send anybody in this room five dollars within my right now,
That's usually, so what is it that a sea bbc could do that? Denmark can do
And all I get is a bunch of hand waving I get about? Well, maybe it's better for financial inclusion, maybe it
for cross border remains is maybe is there any evidence that it is
and they said well. What am I china China's doing it, but I can see why china would do it if they want to monitor every one of your transactions. You could do that with a central bank, digital currency. You can't do that with venmo. If you
those negative interest rates. You could do that with the central bank is currently. I can't do that. Would then now and if you wanna directly tax customer account, you can do that with the central bank. Little currency you can't do that, would benefit by get
why china would be interested?
Why would the american people before that were not, and who cares? We want
yeah, that's right! Who cares what you want you alone? Nothing and you'll be happy. I've never been arbiter.
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ah, I see happy to see doing much
You know, you know why does it have to do a hillary Clinton? You and I had a dream.
Nay, my forgot, you worry- is coming back she's coming back
is that. So yes, the by the administration, the resistance
just an only hilary is going to be a major campaign surrogate for Joe in twenty twenty blah. No, not only
you going to help save the fucking world, but she is going to be out and about in campaigning and giving speeches again. We I'm so happy
I totally support pillars supporting. Don't you think the contradict me? I disagree with me. I'm going to play some morning,
but that's not,
breaking the law, though well like it is that is ok out
my words carefully, since dividing cave campaign really needs the support of the left. When do you think it wise to have such a
Oh war, political figures stump for bided, I mean when the vast wendy
Many of the left is against the war in Gaza. No one is against the war in Gaza at the summits and only republicans are anti semites,
all day. You're welcome a fifty fifty I'm alive.
this that I dont support the war in Gaza. Well, then, you horrible garbage person that is such a thing
So you are emotionally fry, you
so emotionally fragile. The uk
A barely leave your house, but you have no proof
then, with the slaughter of innocence in Gaza. Excuse me about that. That's what I forgot here when I see the video these people being bombed and die you getting horribly entered. I looked at them and I just know
these people do not respect pronouns, they miss gender, I'm sure of it. So yes, kill them wow. What period
We supported it. Hilary supporter supports it too. We see it as the long and short of it. I may be afraid of my own silverware, but
please, I know about railroaded by men like you, Jimmy door, happy reserves! Ok, you know
you are currently triggering my obi are only directional blame response.
You know how to handle it now, because I meant there before it and by their b I mean there is a burden to job my windows, sometimes that I talk to the point here with agony importing, Jo Leinen, and when he waved again here, we will be the one running things behind it.
jeans and then you'll all be sorry? Actually I agree with you there we're going to all be sorry. Okay. This has gone far enough where you wilfully do a misdirection on me or whatever. You call them jokes, that most people riley call them micro fast.
Yeah. I don't need it right now. Someone knocked on my door two days ago and I've been having panic attacks every twenty minutes. The next one is coming up, so I have to go, but just know that people like me are stronger than you jimmy Dore and we will beat you in the end
Ok, how long hilary supporter goodbye goodbye, actually bad by that, should be what we say:
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