Christian Smalls, the fired Amazon worker who beat the odds to successfully win a union vote at the company's Staten Island fulfillment center, spoke to Jimmy about why his efforts succeeded, what it takes to organize workers from diverse backgrounds and his recent appearance on Tucker Carlson's show. Plus segments on the plummeting price of the first ever Twitter tweet NFT and Nina Turner's snubbing by the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Also featuring Stef Zamorano, Kurt Metzger and Mike MacRae! And a phone calls from Al Pacino!
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interesting story, so there's this thing called end up tease. It stands for non fungible. What does the tea target and non target by them.
people try to get me involved in that, and I I said if you can explain to me what it is that I understand it I'll get involved. Nobody can explain to me
exactly what it is I could. If they did, they explain it to me. I wasn't smart enough to understand
and- and I think now I know why, because I think nf tees are bullshit. You know to do explain to me what he says. I would say that, basically, it does two things one. It keeps it makes crypto more legitimate because the thing to like buy with crypto- and it also is just another thing for rich people like normally they buy a painting and stick it in some vaults on the right, and so once you have sold now that people have so much money, they gotta find new things to spend.
as if that make up shit like met a in and, if tease all kinds of stuff. Well, what well watch how it's not working out for them kurt why dat jackdaw, she's first, we
an empty plummeted. Ninety nine percent in value would just in one year what happen well in december, twenty twenty.
act or she created a non fungible token out of his first ever twitter post. He turned a static image of a five word tweet into a digital file stored
a black, jane and, while are an end of tea, was born, and this is it that was his first tweet
it into a digital thing? It lives on a blockchain I'll, give you five thousand dollars more got more.
A few months later, the image sold at auction for studying two point: nine million dollars- that's almost as much you can almost by a house in LOS Angeles where that money, yet in an
auction this past week, no one bit more than two hundred and eighty dollars, so they tried to auction off that an empty there.
was for almost three million. They got two hundred eighty bucks and even
current bids on open sea only amount to about ten thousand dollars a ninety nine percent drop in value. What happened dorsey
end of tea, initially goddard little interest with some people bidding a few thousand dollars in December twenty twenty a time when an empty still at view
believers. But in march twenty twenty one, the market entered hype mode with monthly sales on open sea jumping
nearly a hundred and fifty million dollars up from just eight million dollars. Two months prior, a rainy and crypto entrepreneurs, Siena stubby got swept up in the frenzied buying door season of tea for two point: nine million he tells forms he paid such a hefty. Some due to the end of tease, uniqueness and association with such a valuable companies twitter. While you could argue that
neuroses. First tweet and of tea has historical significance. The two point: nine million price tag, is nearly impossible to justify the bubble price as to Bobby Peru s dhabi paid epitomizes, the great fool theory at work. What is the grateful theory? The greater fool theory argues that prices go up because people are able to sell overpower
securities to a greater fool, whether or not they are overvalued, that is, of course, until they are no are no greater fools leapt
resting according to the greater full theory means ignoring valuations earnings reports and all the other data. Ignoring the fundamentals is, of course, risky, and so people subscribing to the greater full theory, could be left holding the bag after a correction. So what they're saying is you just have to find a rich guy
whose an idiot and he'll buy it from you and then he'll find a real. I richard the named by, but at some point you stop running out of rich idiots and then that's when it crashes and that's what that reversed pyramid scheme. Yeah goes
What is the utility of that end of tea? Does jack dorsey? Take you out to dinner, and silicon valley says much less gama of tea collector. What is it
real value proposition. Here. I think time has probably told us- and it's probably nothing. I spend my money on a monkey with a funny huh and if that describe
profits that stubby put the empty up for auction for fourteen
thousand nine hundred and sixty nine either
or about
fifty million dollars embarrassingly he tried to sell it for fifty million thou gap.
Embarrassingly, no one bit more than two hundred and eighty bucks
no one knows why the bid came in so low. He says it seems that few people took it serious. We know we know,
We know why do people took it seriously because it's not serious.
Bitters? Just realized what it was, a publicity stunt a way to get exposure, says Blake moser an entity collector who has nearly four hundred and f t's. I do think Cinna Estava accomplished what he was looking for, exposure to as nf t a stogie has indeed gotten a ten.
jane, but he seemed severely out of touch with the rapidly changing energy market. The market isn't ready to
jump into literally anything that a celebrity or someone of high stature. My release lack some us says I think
last year was a really good time for that, but a lot of people have grown weary of cash grab tactics, while the failed,
Option shows that end of tea hype has waned. The market is still very high.
Active with trading volume hovering around two to three billion a month on open sea up from a
didn't fifty million a year ago, prices for some men collections, like the board, ape yacht club
Remained near all time, eyes see own this more than that
got you smile, smart monkey, smart hunky. Over the past, the past day bids for dorsey tweet have risen to about ten
and asked lobby says he won't sell for anything less than fifty million good luck
are few investment vehicles in history that will turn out to be worse, investments that empties
had on twitter itself, but I agree with that. Our notice twitter even turn a profit, yet I don't know so there
go there's your end of tease bought for three
almost three million sold for all. They got ten grand isabel. I bid now so only lost ninety nine point. Nine percent of its value tourists use first, we want
but an added button in their asshole? He knows what he was the free speech champion of twitter. It turns out right, that's all fucked up twitter. It himself
commenting street and johnson media some had the chance to show our guests
they is a working class hero, christian small, the founder and president of the ecb.
Amazon labour union who scored a huge victory this past April. First, when workers in
amazon, J, F, K, eight warehouse and staten island vote
to union eyes with representation by the aol you he has previously been fired.
By amazon for blowing the whistle on unsafe working conditions and poor treatment of workers at the warehouse. Christian welcome back to the program. Thank you have me skin and flesh
So I just want to let people know. So there was a big deal. Amazon workers on staten island vote to you guys at landmark win for labour, and I just want to ask you a question:
Was it like organizing, because we hear people talk a lot who call themselves,
the grass or liberals or lefties, or pro worker. We heard people talk.
Bout, organizing along class lines. Now, what is that
mean to you and is that what you did.
Yeah, you know, I didn't you talk about it, no Jimmy
they cover me since I was terminated ever seen, sort of the transitional of how I've contingency,
presently came for workers, rights,
almost two years over two years now
did you talk about it, I wouldn't underground that actually got got my gama he's dirty
I'd stay outside of the amazon facility for local markets and the workers
you know, workers saw me out there. Every single day, day in day out I'll rain or shine
just keep continuance, who advocated and build relationships and earned a trust until you know we were able to become successfully the first year in american history
and so talk about the coalition of workers that you put together in what what? What kind of people make up your coalition.
These are former amazon workers know, most of whom are still currently workin here. Some are
unfortunately, they were founded as well. Are they no longer work would accompany, but they
ass. He continued actually about me. Some actually were even directly.
Meet me when I was a supervisor there in our doll, disarm in all my vice president. Doubt palmer has been around since day, one jason at me. You used to be other leave me. They want
Joe Bryson, who breaking news? Guess why you just got me stated, as today brings some ten J has been up. They did not believe
Judges are true. You have these job back, so does two years back pay going back to him. He supposed
be reinstated within two weeks. So that's great knows what labour movement for amazon workers on his way?
It was under these may as well an arm jonah flowers. I still day one and everybody else that that job
Does it now or to your journey is suddenly amazing people? I can't name all of them, but I can tell you that they are brooded their lives stage
their whole lives with his coat and a more just staten island.
really, I'm sure sure about with me was gonna. Do I'll be more
I too staten island in
It all came together and said this is where it has to happen at jackie
staten island. We re able to do so and sudden now what was your pitched too?
the kurds to get them to join the union, because not everybody did a lot of you
we voted against it. So what
What were the hurdles you had to get over and in their mentality to get them to to go away?
with your union,
the fact that we are amazon workers. Workers do not answer not accompany those me to the grievances, be the reality of our situation in alchemy,
you don't you, don't really had a pretty too much, because it was in fact out
We are actually living in the same type of predicament that they are in I'll, be traveled to the computer two and a half hour three hours each way beyond be dealt with the fealty system. The unpaid tax system be dealt with,
This is the way it was agreed and we can relate to the language we could relate to the grievous it. As I mentioned, and I think will be repeating that we must change our own selves bar working environment for working traditions. You know,
amazon. They sprang up a system of metrics numbers. The union was about your passion.
Still is about compassionate passionate about one another, we mediating
MR president, did not traditional. We took care of
other show. The work is what it is to stand up and be encouraged to do that, and also this once again on the trust hadn't. Several conversations being considered
and not having the bunch of service. Are you having happen a third party
establishing that we have to educate about
we are, the your work is below the problem is, and I think that resonated needed more so did you did you experience
workers who normally would have differences politically putting those political
differences aside and coming together around your union. Absolutely no style people know now is this trouble is not democratic at all.
we can begin entire cell to political candidates.
even though individually and made himself from time to time, endorsing books
The union sell ale, you doesnt doors, politicians, don't pick sides will don't care whether you left right up down middle way,
green blow. Yellow doesn't matter may be one of rebels in all work that ended a day. Everybody's worker, you know, is not about political views and big became
if you don't pick and choose will be more that or are organised bb want to include everybody. So what cause
but what you're saying is that your and amazon worker I
it doesn't matter if you're, a communist, a socialist, a Democrat, a libertarian a gun not or a trump her, you all our experience,
seeing the same kind of oppression from the same oligarchy, and so you all have a common needs and you camera you can coalesce along common ideas. That's what you're saying
That was solidarity. As is know, people scream
are there any, but dont know what it is?
pick and choose what you want to use it.
Talking about solidarity? You got it. You gotta, find
commonality knowledge, gonna, build up the commonality,
and become reality for amazon work is, is the working conditions of the environment, the culture
but we do away. All yours became
the culture that resonates with the mass in the and that's how you for me, you that's. What are you should he talking about unity? Talking about bringing people together? Once again, he built off the commonality
of what the issues are. So we don't fall through the rabbit,
out all because your your left or right, you don't want to organize with you, so he do so a lot of till you so that your job
O k. Eight, this, the fulfilment setter you organised, isn't,
at nine, like you said so, there's gotta be allotted trumpery who work there, and so there
now in your union, and you got a lot of lack because you went on Tucker karlsson.
and this help spread your message. You know workers come in Austria,
jobs and you representing a class of people who are not represented,
political ideologies, your representing a class
people see you went on tucker, karlsson, Anne and you d.
You did a really great job. I think you did a great job and every
He has their own agenda. Your agenda was to get your message out. I think you did, and so let me just play it
very brief. It's only about two and a half minutes. Maybe three minutes
I want to play it and then I just want to stop. People have a context of what we're talking about. So let me to split should were used a prize that sandy courts is our general cause. You cortez, who had said repeatedly that she's on the side of the worker against the corporation, wasn't standing with you at the barricade
yeah I mean you know it wasn't is her. It was all of them
Many much you know it's not fair.
it alone. I don't want it
maybe this with between us in a sea, because you know a lot of them didn't show up and
you know once again, we have
no ill will against whom we know that
whether they shoulder to up or not, they didn't make a break. Our election. We just had
continue to organise yeah. I mean it just to get its a weird moment. Could something I'm on the right? I've never been particularly pro.
Union, but it does seem like amazon need some counterbalance like it's. This huge company, the workers have no power, and maybe we could
I dunno share a little power with people who work there should that's my view anyway, should to tell
Where you are in your organizing efforts,
all right now. You know we're fine for contract. You know amazon's dispute with no lecture room results somewhere where walkin in soon bubblegum, at the same time we're fine for contract. We prepare for now
election in two weeks on April, twenty five,
be voting at an second location directly across the bill.
now we just unionized, so
where it women think of a fight right now you know a legal battle, and
Now we just have to stay, grounded in pretty much begin
campaign all over again. I mean you'd think that amazon would be open to a union, wouldn't that
a zone would be open to a union when you is a very progressive company. Why do you think they're trying to thwart you from organizing
Amazon hasn't been unionized in this country since the beginning of its existence and thereby
hence our young and you know they want. They created a system that higher fire people they created.
System that they have full control of the working of the working people
and now you know the union of- brings represented.
For the workers that benefit the workers,
the bottom, like myself,
our the associates, entry level, workers that don't get the
it's a the so forming. The union gives us the right to collective bargaining with the company form a contract to protect ourselves,
That's exactly what we are trying to do. The amazon lay reunion.
Hoping that we will be a catalyst for something that would take place.
nationwide,
well. I certainly am ruining for you. I mean, maybe if they trust
woke slogans out. You'll forget you can't feed your family and progress.
I appreciate your coming on. Thank you very much, so that was
The entire interview knows fantastic, and I think that you know
I saw an article that more democrats watchdog her curls and then
Watch MSNBC, so you're reaching a big, broad you're, not just reaching
right, wingers republicans, your also reading your reaching democrat centrists and you can
a lot of heat foregoing on trucker carlton, and I just want to show to accept.
was and then you can respond to it. This is from someone
from media matters now medium matters normally focuses on clipping videos of right wing people
and showing how horrible they feel they
are, and so they they thought it was wrong
for you to go on. They said Tucker karlsson is a hateful bigot any uses broke
I'm every night to spread his hateful bigotry, someone like small
has appearing on. His show only gives tucker credibility. He doesn't deserve
and then one more there's unnecessary, converse
asian to be had about? Why so many pro labour elected, kept their distance from J f K, a fight but Tucker carlson's investment
in that debate is only to weaken divide and confuse. Don't play is game. So what are you? What are you? What do you say that the crisis? It is ridiculous that occurs at its treatment,
go about business. That's when Portugal should deal, but I got gets people have nothing us better to do that.
Twitter fingers all day but definite
I would organise days. No organ asked
social media and that weekend in Austria, the solidarity but somebody's not doing anything. You know
it doesn't matter who you are gone. What wouldn't have slack on going on the show with you tonight that people to understand it doesn't matter who what
it doesn't matter. What shall I mourn? Somebody always got something to say that that is not what I learned in my short two years of organizing the labour movement. It doesn't come dan, thereby do I'm dead
in the water. So it doesn't matter if I go on your show. Doesn't matter if I go on MSNBC. Doesn't matter cnn thought to me I'm going on fox, but everybody focuses on the person I'm interviewing with and that's ridiculous to get about what I'm talking about. They they're worried about tucker carlson I'll, give a damn about. Tucker Carlson never met the man, never never watched the show. I didn't even watch the interview
you'll. Now so that you tell you how much I don't care, and the only thing I care about is the word racing on
been there are people stand that is like you know, it's about the message about what I'm talking about. Somebody who won in the bureau, Which-
and I, and if I have the availability to go on somebody's shoulder- has a big clapper. I want to do it because it's about,
the mass, like you mentioned and as with so laws, are, and so let me out so let me just corset
being facetious, but when you're organizing
a union at amazon that has all stripes of colours of people in from all different political persuasions is unhelpful to
organizing effort to call half the people at that place. Racists and bigots is that opel as a means of knows this day, you know, because I haven't done a thousand and one
many people in the interview everybody's having a twitter war about is tucker, causing really
it's like a more now. Did you go back from the beginning on one august by having been on twenty people souls, including
doors and ended doesnt matter what people always got something to say, but I don't care about that. I don't care about social media
I'm doing the work on the ground next day as important is the workers that are actually affected by how we're organizing of doing
as long as they are okay with it, I'm okay, with doing what I need to do. Okay and what's funny, is that you didn't
love, you kept your eye on the ball about what's happening, getting your message out about workers,
not making it about personalities which was very smart view and very deft of you to do that,
and the irony is the people who were criticising. You were doing that they were actually call uncoiled taking debate and make
it about personalities instead of about the issues, and so they add,
why those people have never done anything in their life that even comes close
do what you ve already accomplished, which is the biggest
meant as thing that happened for union organizing in general,
then at least so you're out there,
getting it done, and people are, of course telling you where you could do it better. People have never done anything and what you've tweeted out was.
Focused on me. I focused on we and I was a perfect god. Come back now. I just have a few questions for,
in the new york times article about your victory. They say the near term
question facing the labour movement, and other progressive groups is the extent to which they will help the upstart
amazon labour union withstand potential challenges to the result and negotiate a first contract such as by private
adding resources and legal talent.
has any of that happening as the other labour organization does, that stepped up to help.
Yeah. Of course you know not everyone, you know everybody in them.
wilder is that you know I I this is what we want. We wanted to shake the labour movement up, shake up the you know, politicians as well to get their support, and it's never too late to get involved in that, and that goes for everybody who didn't show up in the beginning, but we just have to make sure
we had the workers insurance. That's my job, as interim president, is to make sure that whoever wants to get involved, they absolutely can, but they can't just get up and get involved for
we could do. They gotta make sure you here for the long haul specified in new york or progress
you said at the new york of refugees,
The union's establish unions and you're gonna get a while with amazon workers. Out of you
Any capacity we want to make sure that you are here for these workers on a day to day and you're, putting something on paper, better laws, better deals that are going to help us organise out the workers.
Attaches. So I remember
two long ago I was on twitter and I saw someone tweet out. They said something like hey what are wasted.
I used to do when trump or his want to join our union and someone responded. You declare victory. That's what you do. You declare victory,
wait. So that's what you have the power when you have people from all sides of the political spectrum coming together, they can dismiss you if it's just a bunch of progressives or a bunch
libertarians, are a bunch of greens or a bunch of social cover. Just a group with smog, the bigger the group, the less they kindled dismiss you, and I think, that's a great lesson to take
I want more video I'd like to show you. This is Jim Cramer. On CNBC
and this was his assessment of the
problems at amazon or the problem of the union at amazon dislike to get your response, we know that the union work forward. Everything is about the same case, the storm books too. If you can't tell you
please when they work, then you really not able to have much of an ability to be able to move product or move coffee, and I think that people, the union
we'll be in charge of time that you need to work, and that would be dreadful for very dreadful fanny, jazz.
So sorry didn't you? Could we really here that he saying this is all about unions being controlling
time, clock and when people are gonna work and when they're not and if the company cannot control were
and workers work that that's dreadful for them
it's gonna? What do you say to that? Don't want you tell mom
though he said basically almost brought him money as that's. What they're, too pointed out is losing the bicycle.
millions of dollars, and they don't eat anyway
don't you, you know you were gonna catch all peoples out in our work of working. Forty fifty sixty hours a week asked me what the map of banned
We a family charge so, if mad about their work, their cause. Yes, we do work forty to sixty hours a week and we tinted
twelve hours a day. I'll bet a thirty minute lunch and I think I don't think they relate to without our lifestyles.
Our sole army, we want better and does exactly what the youngest gonna do.
I'm all for it, and I can care less about. What's bridge you know, people are discussing okay, so your next election is on the twenty fifth of April, and what does that? What is that about? This is the second election
Mr Martin, this everyday fibres sort taken. The same authorities has been a right across the street found your gate was about sixteen hundred workers and we are in the heat of the organised it out there.
We just organise an inside and outside we're, hoping the beast
That's what this will also be historic, commanded, affordable there for you! Well, chris. I just can't tell you,
You know how much it means to everybody,
you're doing and you're setting an example. You're not too tweeting you're, not facebook in your actually getting your boots on the ground in organizing p,
bowling, giving it done you're doing it much better than the politicians. You're in bed
seeing the politicians like you should be and of goods, not that
hard, and you do what you're doing it. So I just want to say: thanks
you know? Please keep us abreast of whatever you're doing
thing, you need amplification on. Just let us know,
be glad to have you back on any any last words you want to tell everybody.
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I want to tell people
by this. I want to want to bury the lead, but I have a lot to tell you about this. So dave thing is the: u s progressive caucus. The congressional kok is right. The progressive congressional caucus with that includes the squad. They endorsed a corporate democrat again,
neither turner now, who was neither turner need. Neither turnover is like the loudest last hope for
People who are voting progressives voting Democrat she's, their last hope, even though she is indicated she is going to be exactly like the rest of the squad. This is their peoples last hope, devote Democrat he's gotta. Do it what's Nina turned her get synergies
gonna? Do it right now she got endorse when she ran an especial election in ohio. She got endorsed by the progressive caracas and, while privilege, help J appall relief
ship, fragmented endorsement of pramila jayapal, she is the leader of the progressive caucus and she endorsed our inner. But then what happened? Well, chantelle brown
that's what she was running against the corporate democrat. What happened after turner
I an advertisement touting her support for medicare raw corporate lobbyist, including those representing big parma, held a fundraiser for brown,
and the anti medicine care for all lawmaker
kleiber inner intervened.
border campaign, so the shit lived, democrats and big farmer got together to go against needed turner and for this corporate democrat
the dm five pack and the corporatist dark money. Group third way spent two point: four million promoting brown and imposing turner
Even so, and then she won that corporate democrat be turner. Even so, the progressive congressional progressive kok is welcomed. Brown, with old
we learned arms she also join the correct congressional progressive cock, his adversary caucus as the new democratic coalition, which includes several congressional so she's, also
Lou, dog demagogue, cheese in both she's, a blue dog democrat, which is a conservative
I'm a edges of the progressive ghak. As you
wouldn't be allowed in boats.
and they let her in any way by the way
he also. She also got support criminal heil republic,
and to be her or higher republicans voted for her and she got a car
tractor that she had awarded seventeen million to as a city counselor potential to protect them.
resulted in an ethics probe, so she lost, but before she, but she still supported
the squire this is needed. Turner supporting the squad. Remember when we were doing forced the vote
when we figured out here at this, show that there was enough people in the squad that they could be
legislation. There is such a narrow margins in the house that the squad actually had power and they couldn't pass legislation without the votes of the squad beating
oh see, PAMELA J appall row carnea eat all the mark, pull all that's quibbling squat called progressive
right, ok, Ellen omar, Oriana presley it'll do they are so they had
And so they were supposed to withhold their vote per nancy policy, a speaker. She couldn't become speaker without their vote and they had to get something for their boat. That's all politics works one or one, so we decided because we help them
elected, we decided what we wanted them to ask for was a vote on medicare for all since we're in the middle of a deadly pandemic, and it would be bad optics for someone to vote against
In this I had a good chance to build momentum for medicare for all headed
just a bill momentum for medicare for all. They wouldn't do it. The squad, wouldn't do it. They sold
and they lied and gas lid PAMELA J, a pulse,
that if they had a boat, I met a give wrong. It would end the movement for medical rock, just making stuff up stop. That is eight. It there's no historic,
collaborates for we will
Jamila babe elsa that it would end, but she said that it would end medicare for all. Ah, so people were quick why gods were criticizing the squad for not doing what they said and telling people to stop voting for democrats and stop donating to them right now, other people were saying you have to be nicer. Here's what she said: here's what here's! What nina Turner said when, when the squad was supporting her and and they weren't supporting us when the squad had turned it's back on us and didn't do anything. This is what she said: okay to be disappointed, but this the squad,
In the end, it is ultimately the best that we have in terms of being able to push an agenda and what that means you might not always so what tat means is we have nothing occur the best, then we have nothing. So this is heard. This is what's call gas lighting, so this is nina turner
gas lighting, which is another name for lying, so
Bullshitting you about the squad, and here comes with the methods. I'd need people to understand that
When you are on the inside it doesnt mean that you
are selling. Now, I'm not a big get my lot of pressure, but they are not.
What's up they're holding down they been holding water.
What are you talking about? What are you you're just making up words now they're? Didn't they didn't hold down any holding down? They did
down anything better news. There leverage to
the vote on medical for all, dating user leverage to get a fifteen dollar minimum wage. They can use their leverage. Do get student debt relief. They'd. Have you
their leverage to get marijuana relief? They
the news there? Letting is a leverage for any big? They didn't do anything holder.
Holding it down,
or their holding down a vote to give.
Two billion dollars more to the cops they held that down. You know what they held down a bit
to give more billions of dollars to the iron dome. They held it out what they ve done, nothing. So this is- and this is what
so. This is why it's kind of funny that the progressives, the bush and not over this for lack of a better term, its body,
because she's already told you this is a year ago securities.
calling you she's going to go and be just like the squad which mean
If she was elected already, she would be endorsing other corporate democrats over people like her.
That's why it's so mean what they did to her, because she could have been whole bedel. That's right, she could have been holding it down to it's so mean here what let's listen more pushing as hard as they can it just because
She said that squatters pushing as hard as they can. So this is just a whole.
three miles an hour bullshit coming your way, belka, and why
She doing this she's doing is to defend
politicians who are turning their backs
our voters. Ok,
their pushing his always they Jan and still being able to be invited to parties. I guess
without their pushing his art as they can and not without its. I want to push as far as I can.
right up to where I get my met, gala invitation to go away, then that's. Why stop pushing rose there? What it's like,
ok here we go there not goin exactly the way does because they might use in a big sack tat
is that, so does it even has acted this community want them to use, is ones? Are these not? Do you mean the tactics that day ran on that day said they would. Do you mean those tactics that this is amazing, so this is called garbage
and propaganda and bullshit and gas lighting and its in it
all this is insulting, because guess what
if you're gonna away members of the squire, who are our best opportunity to get
we need and also that the progressive they almost sure didn't have any binding a beggar. So if the pre wrestling, maybe boy Jim greece requisite for relationships, means that I have to do or the squad has done everything use.
The way you say doing there is not much of a relationship at all. You are now god, oh my god, that
these, how she's so
This is her making excuses for
Politicians who sold out sold you out and did nothing for you right now and
I was due to the Elk, as was so insulting by what the
he's getting me. Is this guy nodding along life? Yes, I'm swallowing. Does an
You won't be disappointing. They're gonna, this point with me: you got this
with you already did. Everything you just said was already a disappointment. I'm already disappeared.
and immediately after this she started tweeting about access to health care and that a better for all. That's where she started
okay, the Oregon area. You Harry said that the term black, when we interviewed it to you, might I want them enough. You're gonna be
the pointed at some point, this is:
campaign speech, I'm going to disappoint you vote for me. What I'm not gonna hold their feet to the fire vote for me.
god has never goes against the guy from colorado. It'll be a real and be a real great weight. That does not mean that you give up totally or the people want the best fighting chance that you
and then there's some call strategy and even our strategy.
if never using our lab bridge, but just saying strategy in a really condescending way, as if you don't know that I bull shitting you right now that strategy, what's their fucking strategy, gaslighting bullshit or what's their strategy? What was their strategy
they didn't have a strategy, and you know what they're strategy ultimately was their strategy. Ultimately,
was- did not endorse you na and their good endorse your corporate opponent, who takes big farm of money and and campaigns with republicans, that's,
who those people who you're defending right now over activists like me, that's what they just did. Do they just stuck
life in your back and turned it, and what did you do
for doing this, you got nothing. You lost
credibility. By doing this congratulations
you went on, has no doubt you will get your holding you down now, you're holding
new doubt, does she?
already revealed who she is. This is bullshit right at now prevail.
This is after propeller, J palsied. If we had a vote on medicare for all would end the movement is to just making up garbage.
It magically and health care. If you george,
If you dont have a boat medicare overall, it helps us get medicare for all. It's the craziest thing you ever heard and that's what she's defending that's what she's defend.
So she already tipped her hand here we go. The grass roots strategy is different.
The new strategy once you are on the inside and you know what he sold out strand, how he sure you that the squire has not underline bowl underscored, sold out they just a door
first, the corporate has aids running against. You underlined,
in in baldwin, they just endorsed corporatist running against you underline in bold or caps is a question. Is this
Is she sings, after that? It has a europe of what all this is a year ago. We for start yet so this this was after force, the boat kisses her son
I do hope, you're. Okay, I just wanna make sure she's not talking like this after they just know a whole lot, though here there's a little more any way.
They need the grass roots,
hold it hold him accountable, but you don't go away what so and they never say what does that mean hold them accountable? That's was the question. I asked all through force the vote. What is our
mechanism to hold squat accountable when they don't do this, we knew they weren't gonna. Do it what I said and I cover
king panel after panel of good progressives what's
strategy to hold them accountable. They had
oh strategy. I asked kyle
since the eu is the founder of the justice democrats. What's our strategy,
to hold them accountable. He said we don't have a strategy. I said: when are you
going to hold them accountable. Unease that were not are you
gonna do anything is no. That was that
and then they had. He went on to tell people to be nicer to the squad that I was right.
And that you have to be nicer to them, will
here she is being nicer to them and they just endorse the biggest corporatist act in the world against her. We, why did they originally should calling them grass roots
the squire, not she saying that the grass roots like people like us,
the organizers that were just
We have our own strategy, they have their strategy and they need the grass roots. You know that
the grass roots nina. That's why they're supposed to do what we tell them to do will lead from twitter yeah, essential, flexi arm when you get.
yeah done you without any pressures, even what pressures even more cumbersome. I just want to use her as the gap
She just got there
Overall, this. Why members over all got there, even they just
got there and don't get subtle, that'll get settled in, let em lose the house to the republic in november and then, after a couple of more election cycles, they'll know what they're doing
This is recognised in this is growth that grows because that really like an old face like
hey. This is about me and my career. That's right! You don't forget its rising that so I gotta be secure. So he has all the boy wants it
when their little longer, and then you have people just born of the has dawned on
we just because they are not using the taxes that you want them. You you don't know what is going on so that tomorrow help
yeah. You know I know what's going on, I want healthcare and they will force a vote for it. That's what's going on you liar and here's what here's why I love this
when politicians refused to do what they ran on while capitulating to corruption, it absent
lately, means we throw them away. They blew it. I will throw away Nina turn away in a heartbeat if sheep redress us that was apocalypse David, saying that well guess what you gotta be. Do it by.
the squad a squad. This quad through
nina Turner away. Guess
who, through nina turner away, propeller J of power and the progressive carcass
that's who threw her away. She sang
throw the squad awake, they threw you away and guess what
they drew away the grass roots they threw
everything away which, and so that's why, on a pollack out apologetic
said some don't want to hear it, but Nina turner will go to congress and turn into a regular, incremental ism, loving status quo. Defending Democrat its absurd to spend more
I'm brow. Beating people with no healthcare then criticize
using politicians who ran on medicare for but opposed a floor vote. I'll. Read that again it's absurd to
and more time brow beating people with no health care, which is what she's doing then criticized
Politicians who ran on medicare for all but opposing a floor vote, so she's wagner
there's a people about health care who want them to do something about it, and why? What did she do? She's defending the people won't help them get healthcare care? How that work out for you,
they didn't georgia anyway na. Oh, my god, that's funny they do.
the doors you anyway now shall never gonna networks. The old now
never get it double come to J
tweeted out are you surprised that privilege, ay a bell and the progressive kok is supported.
Chantelle brown over needed turner- and I didn't I didn't, get a check and went better.
For that. I think they deleted this. I would love to see what their results where I couldn't. Can you see if you can find the results? I couldn't find them.
David, sir Rhoda, even David, sir rota, who tried
find a way to defend the squad around forced? The vote did a poor job of it, but
heaving he's had it
he's had it. He said. Let me clear
This is very likely PAMELA J, pals selling out the entire movement. Because of
unbridled ambitions to get a fancy but meaningless leadership. Title among a house, democratic caucus,
that will be obliterated in the mid term elections, a total betrayal on every level, so David's wrote it
saying that promotes a J. The head of the progressive caucus is selling out. That's what you do
the word selling out the
entire movement and what
She selling it out for her own career ambitions. Now, kyle kalinowski will tell you, that's not corruption, because she's not taking
corporate money, although we did find out we'll do it
if the video where she is taking corporate money? Ah, but he would say, that's not called cut, but by definition, that's not corruption, because they don't take corporate money, but that doesn't have anything to do with the definition of grub. That's
corrupt. When you'd sell out the people who elected you- and you turn your,
under your policies that you ve endorsed, and your supporters endorse for your own personal
einstein in your career. That's called corrupt. That's the definition of grub, not that bullshit definition
They calculate ski tried to make everyone tried to gaslight you with that's a gaslight. This is real. That davits road is correct. This is real corruption.
not that gas lighting definition that the founder of the justice demographic gave you to protect the squad. This
is it she selling out for her own personal career advancement, that's corruption, so owed by businesses. What the progressive kok has said. This is how they
justified it Evan brown executive, director of the congressional progressive caucus pack told the lever endorsements are put to the pack for
consideration when the incumbent congressional progressive,
caucus member request set and the congressional progressive kok is power
regularly endorses members who ask so chantelle brown was, in
allowed to be a member of the congressional progressive gawk is even though she
in bed with big farmer republicans and many other nefarious corporatist.
And so she asked them to endorse her, and so they did. That's. That's no excuse justice, but what about? If there's more people,
some person running costs that what this is about. They really didn't turn
Really that's so they did. They did. What nina Turner did us dirty by
defending them when they were selling us out at record speed, and now they just
did that to her kind of funny. So this
where my jehu reprimand o j o Paul is just wait present. This is what she said about
A president Biden. This is true. President. President Biden hasn't done anything he didn't. He didn't
do anything he ran out, didn't give me the two thousand our jack he didn't give you
Fifteen dollar minimum wage didn't give you student debt relief it and then the works. He didn't do anything you didn't do.
Medical aid into marijuana didn't do anything if you promise, though, to eventually shake hands with an invisible
man on still, I think he's. I think he did promise that also here for years what she said,
I think President Biden has risen to the moment and I really do give him an a in what he's done so far.
Ah, ah so
But do you see what you doing when you vote for democrats? Do you see what you're doing that's the most pressing ahead of the progressive girgis so over?
past year, under J Paul's direction. The organization has worked closely with the democratic establishment, with few clear legislative victories to show for it, so the crook progressive caucus end. The squad have been working closely with the democratic stab, which meant what did they get out of it? Nothing, nothing
Oh I'm sorry they got advanced in their own careers, that's what they got. Riad. A joy gray asked the question, says: she's Bernie sanders. Former press secretary says it will be interesting
See which left his signal support for nina turner over the next few days and which remains
island. In the wake of the congressional progressive caucus endorsement any word from the squad yet will. As of this taping, no.
So maybe the squad would come on supporting the turner and go against a progressive gawk as chair not happening not happening. As of this recording, I hope it does happen, will soon
yeah, but it doesn't matter if it happens or not. We. You already saw that data turner
already indicated is going to become just like them when she gets there all did it down?
hold it down. At his one, remind you, a see was the one who gave
the idea to have a medicare for all vote. She said, madame
and for all his, but on the floor of the congress since two thousand and three the bill is: fifteen years old, a stream of studies for both left and right have shown that but funding the mechanism immense cost savings for medicare for all, almost every modern asia. So this is: what's that's, how they used to think and
if they had a chance to get a floor vote on that they, of course they did it. They they succumb to the leadership to the establishment and he's right. Stop donating to justice. Democrats: it's not rational to fight for politicians.
never fight for you, so there you go. I guess katy porter also is enduring. Is that cause she's, proud of the congressional caucus? I we have? I love to hear
from katy porter she would katy who katy porters endorsing. I have a strong feeling she's going to disappoint.
seat. A none of this matters, it doesnt fuck it matter if needed.
If turner gets elected or not, it really doesn't
she's better than chantelle brown.
she's already indicated she's going to become what
However, the squad wants her to be whatever the leadership watch obeyed its body. They turn their back on her net amazing.
That's funny. I didn't turn my back until they turned their back on her. It's like a little areas, so that's called karma. I think so when nina turner, gas lights and lies to protect politicians from their grassroots support,
is that ard, and then they come back to stick a knife in her back or indifferent. They stuck a knife on her front. I guess I think that's called karma. Okay, overstuff, okay, I'm! Actually she found you. The compton j Paul shall send it to you right now,
so you can look up what was the result? What was the result to tell him the reason he just told me the result, people saying they're, not surprised. Eighty per cent said they're, not surprised, are only twelve percent said they were surprised. I know it turns out eighty seven percent,
said they're, not surprise. Only thirteen percent said they were
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