Comedians Gareth Reynolds and Dave Anthony examine the oysters of New York Harbor
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that's right. That's the most jobs, a car you ve been with him Henry hudson, a british explore employed by
the dutch sailed into new york harbor on his a ship, the something, or rather he was looking for a river to china. That was the plan. He said this is the hudson river origin, the man looking for
ever to china a river to china, feels like a book I would see like on my mother's bookshelf. When I was a kid, that's right,
Oh they sale. They sell firstly, circle
Lower and then on the states and then they come up.
in this way around and see the bluffs of staten island and the hills of brooklyn, chair and eighty is heavenly rare earth so
well many micro brewers in the water they just have all these big fish following them, then they can look down and see following them. Following following the hudson sends a landing party ashore onto staten, island of people dressed in animal skins, appear and welcome them. Hey they're, going to
that now the europeans had tools and the americans offered hemp and beans in a local delicacy oysters sure now these were the
the nappy who this bunch of different subdivisions of dump bunch of smaller tribes, but that's like the overall people there,
they knew whites. They had seen whites before they called them, show a knock, which means salty people, fair, which seems right.
Is that right assault really are salty people, ok, salty people, meaning we're just kind of sweaty sweaty folk. I think
I think, maybe I dunno it isn't gonna why they call the sovereign people, but by either dick decades. I think
I just I don't even need to know the definition to just be like the other right. We are salty people been able.
They had already experienced. Other salty people like frenchie, samuel day champlain and giovanni de verrazano who's, the the thing guy, that's what the bridges damned share.
so the lobby in their language call themselves the common man or we, the people will not be called themselves that we would steal that. I think we, the people but anyway, don't sit on its gives way. Don't don't sound like ask. I had a fact I you're right at this point. They ve been through fourteen
Epidemics of european desire so can't be really that happy to see more multi there with their salting disease land. They live,
the did. The people live on fishing in hunting and gathering nuts and fruit and shellfish like there. You know the bishop up, they they ate a tunnel of oysters. They are oyster eaters, they love the oyster.
I don't love it. I don't love it. Are you not an oyster guy? No, I am not an oyster guy. I think I've been pretty on record on this. Show that I don't understand why anyone is ever freaking out over a thing you're not supposed to chew. I I totally agree with you
fit oysters. Are it looks like a seaman eyeball, yet know it's like. Why would you it's not? That's not even put some hard says a lemon on this not, and then you can have you like. But what is that's really not the flavor, so they're, big oyster eaters,.
that there are enormous piles of shells all over the area. Services which arc archaeologists called maidens.
There's there's oliver new york mid in the uk and jersey. There are just piles of oyster shells, because they've been eating for thousands of years
and when the le not be buried their dead, they cover them. An oyster shows that feels like that's just the way to like use the trash. But ok, maybe I agree with you, but maybe they're they're like this is cool here. Maybe they also do the same for their dogs. They did bear their dogs at school.
At oysters? Oysters are not a a great source of food. They aren't really nourishing or efficient. If you're you know trained it so like if you're going out to look for food, ninety percent of an oyster shell yeah. So it's a lot of effort for not that much food inside yeah. It's a lot of work for a lot of work for the snot. If you're yeah for to suck up this. Not so, if you're going to get the nourishment from just eating washes, you would need to eat.
Toward fifty oysters today sure that's like what happens on naked and afraid where they'll be like like it'll, be like day, fifteen and people will like find
shrimp and they'll be like yeah and then they'll like split it in half and like yeah, and then the announcer will just come in and be like. A shrimp has forward,
five calories and one tat they spent five hundred calories. Looking for this shirt right, so that's oysters.
so they're morbid diet, supplement kind of thing,
and the le not be traded oysters with other tribes like the iroquois and because everyone, like everyone, liked oysters there, and these oysters are huge, though they're not like the oceans. We see today, eight to ten inches
oh? So it's a big boy and you're not you're, not slurping, this down your chewy, goodness yeah, yeah yeah. Ah, ah sorry, I just need a minute to just think of your chewing through it. It's just like eating tongue yeah. It's like a steak that you're chomping on at that point like it's a big
thing now how those oysters were huge, an oyster can live up to fifteen years
but the new york hudson estuary was the perfect environment for oysters to grocer. There was the per temperature
the water, it's all perfect on hudson's. Third,
stay on staten island. After a second day of trading, very happily, with the monopoly he sent men in a robot to explore the land and, as they were about to step onto a sandy point, the lint api le not be pulled up in some canoes and petty officer. John coleman took an arrow to the neck and died. Look at it. We don't know, we think it was scurvy, it's always so hard to just kind of piece together. What could
It killed people back then there's so many options: yeah it's a real whodunit. So soon after heads in hudson took off and headed up what would have become the hudson river and I dunno how it got the name. They said the coincidence when he was on that he must have been like wow. That's my name.
So so now he's sort of found the play
And now the dutch start arrive.
a girl, he work. He works for the dutch east, india comedy so or dutch western firms,
they started rubbing and they did.
Driven by the water, obviously there dutch, but one of the problems. This time is the swans and other birds. Just keep him awake at night. Cause are so many fuckin birds nor loud and they're doing their night chef, which, if we talk a lot about night backfire on this.
Some awesome there. So many fish you could just go out into the water and pick them up by hand to allow. Is we really
really gone down on our resources,
are we really I liked it who's got. The word out of life. Do not be near them. That is a bad one. Vote quote: it is not possible to describe
how this bay swarms with fish, both large and small whales, tunnies and porpoises holes,
pools of innumerable other fish which the eagles and other birds of prey swiftly seize in their talons when the fish come to the surface and we just ate the shit out of him, but just like a some crazy nature cartoon it's like a joke. Yeah right. Can I tell you about a dream I had last night I had a dream. I was at like a really really rich guy's house and he had a pet penguin and when I was in line at the buffet, the pet penguin said something along the lines of help me and I was like. I will help you get out of here and I was going to help him escape and what
you didn't welcome sounds like you fucked them over basically I'll revisit that little fellow this evening. Well, I hope so or else he bright. Now he might be mad when you come back, I don't just he was in there and he just vanished, get him again on his I'll get them you're going or adrian Van
there dumb corrode quote. There are some persons who imagine the animals of the country will be destroyed in time, but this is an unnecessary anxiety, nace rev,
I can send you
pins writing home always would bring up all the oysters. The area was named, the new netherlands and it was run by the west, india company. So there's no government, it's just it's just a company and it's all about profit, which is why did we waste all of our time with that middle time? Let's just where they are
already, let's just the excellent than the nobby showed them. How
or to row into about ten or so feet of water and use tongs like so really
what kind of tongs and a raking tool- and this other thing to grab them and bring the oysters up into the boat? And these oysters, sadly, for the dutch did not make pearls. They were upset by that there's it's another type of shellfish that makes perils it's not an oyster, it's more muscle,
related, whatever shape. So several dutchman rode home upset that these oysters just made these ugly brown little things. Not pearls. That's already disappointment, which is the
first, it just the whole this. How creches metal thing just really just because she with little dom we're like we're like we are birds, were just like mad shiny later that shiny. We want that poorer. Worse than birds, yeah we're like birds with guns, but like the french and british oysters were sent
essential parts of the cuisine for the dutch, so are there so many seventeenth century, dutch, still I've paintings that have oysters and there's like a time like, like
Yawned van castles, still life fruit with oysters is what he's have always just there's declarations, so they loved her pain, wasters interest because its great because they were so. I want that
great to look at absolutely yeah they're, very photogenic, shell, the dutch, the dutch.
We got a beer, so oysters and beer going together. A large essays over at lies doing good, so the lower hudson estuary has about three hundred and fifty square miles of oyster beds. At this time
Some biologists believe new york harbor had half of the world's oysters at this. How so it's like it's like opera, you know, that's the shit you could. You could just play
mike ripe fruit. He just got in the water and pull him out.
new amsterdam grows. They start to be commercially harvested, but they're so easy to pick up there
It was hard to sell them around. Hey guys, wanna buy a six size. Thirty six upstairs I just pixie! I have. I have six. What about it? Does it always thursday get a better that one though no I got it
doesn't also right there, two dollars for the dozen commandment. These are the best I'll take them off
and if you pay me back, but I stopped just say, I'm just full oysters. I have let go my oyster packets, tonight's look at you,
get out here for a second I'm trying to sell some oysters jaeger
nobody would we're. I shut up. Everybody. Ok has
It was, in their hand, quiet red eyes, stairs, look, look at for atomic eleven,
I don't know? We were wondering notions town. We have oysters everybody. Yes, we
my ride. My pick him up outside. Quite please, please stop saying
part about being able to pick them up outside. Please, please
it is right, and not just Giuliano Amato, your bag, a grand shut up now we're I keep trying to look for a new crew man. What's up what's up, I brought oysters, you wanna buy some oysters. I dont get it.
anyone who has always there's this is not a deal for you, I'm looking for some. I would sell oysters done so
Does she want oysters, I'm interested in a little
how much you selling yours, like everyone, a budget hamlet, servers going much two dollars for it does
selling mine for a dollar. Doesn't why don't you buy mine and then you can turn them around. You don't yet have a really sick. Have a really sick child, no shit,
give their kids some of your oysters, a cure to the sickness. They clean up the the acne they grow, the hair they make the eyes better. Make your hard as a rock he's lost his legs.
Oh they're good for that too, and then you are done when he's done eating them. If he, if it doesn't work, you can put the shells on his feet and just slide them around time had come on. That's not cool to say to anyone at all.
I had about seventy five cents. You drive a hard bargain. Anyone want to buy our whack, often
Well, are you a time traveler, yeah yep? I started and only claims Jesus Christ got good. It did well. I got great one settler wrote of quote oysters. We pick up before our fort sam, so large they must be cut into two or three pieces
Well, don't make sense if you're talking, like twelve edge oysters, but I'm out I'm out an oyster now like leaving the town like. I don't want to be around always just cut
pieces, I don't wanna, be a small oysters, are bad enough. You don't like that. I like that,
the noise oysters are kind run in the city a little bit big guys, so the
dodge takes so many oysters that in sixteen fifty eight, the city council forbids harvesting oysters in the rivers right at the town shores, so that, like you, gotta go that doesn't take us long. No, it does do our thing I mean we are. We are locusts with nipples yeah and now I'm picturing that picturing it and it's hot.
So now they have to roll out to what
is known as little oyster, island and great oyster, our island, which have been renamed to Alice and liberty. Islands allow.
so the lobby and the dutch not getting along that great. What's the issue dave, the dutch are terrible,
the knives they make nice moisture shells and one time a dutchman gave the indians bows ran. How great are we want cut slang? His knife xiv this species we're just like where the best
We're like not only are we going to overhaul. Is this area?
made all of their shells.
Another time. Nobby captured a dutchman and cut off several fingers with an oyster shell knife. There we go way then, will not be we're making their knives. I think they both were but yeah. That's an opera made him. That's like
inside inside. We all know the story. The dutch by manhattan, but like air and water, water will not be don't believe you could own land, it doesn't make sense to hit the hewers civil foolish,
They basically made the deal because they lead they consider that leasing the land they consider like if there were making an alliance with the dutch right.
they ended up. May you twenty two, an sales in the area and pretty soon the
We have thirty houses and a stone headquarters building but they're like wired. The line up
we're not believing we bought land from them; they just stand around its because they did.
I don't think they know how deals work, students
it's. Yours will allow this
is ours. Now. Did you read the contract like the idea of an annex somebody contract is like? I don't believe in contracts signed this lawyer exactly so the first
the taverns built the new amsterdam in sixteen forty one, the city tavern. They sell oysters nice
the dutch and the wiki cwa checks. The wicket checks start fighting right. So that's a, I believe, that's a subdivision of the le not be it might not be, but I think it is so they start fighting, and it's basically like this one dutch guy had killed
a worker check and their rules are like that. If that person is a child that when that child comes of age, he can get revenge great,
Great rule fifteen years go by, and this can you imagine
If someone killed like your father,
were allowed to get like revenge in some way. With that sort of situation like you could just come, get
like you kill someone, and then you go in there.
It'll do again the like, while he killed my he killed my dad and I'm like. Oh okay, that's fine! Now I mean imagine if your father specifically was murdered by someone and you could have at them. That's interesting! Okay, some would say that's what I'm doing when you talking about
They start fighting over that cause that kid eventually kills a dude, a dutch dude and then the dutch respond.
dutch then go overboard at a massacre. Eighty men, women and kids there like ok, let's really bloodshot eyes, they even took them.
together, heads or a bunch of their heads. So this
it's too retaliation and their fighting is a lot of killing going on and the dutch build a huge wall,
we've, talked about before they builded and sixteen to build a wall yeah to protect new amsterdam, but as some people think it was also, maybe because they were fighting what spain or britain or whatever, whatever one of them sure so for years,
there's, the dutch just throw garbage over the wall when they're done with it? They just take their garbage to the wall and they toss it which
It's also for oyster shells, because they're eating a lot of oysters. We were just do we or do we do it in our bones, just be like gluttonous pig fox.
right, I mean it is we're just like yeah, sorry,
we're jalapeno poppers paupers the species they build
It is to drain sewage and that sewage flown out over the oyster beds. So oysters oysters, are they don't move their permanently attached to once they attach their attach such where they stay? There have been two shells: one is a deeper curbed.
and so because that's what they rest in, they can be shipped in their shell transported. Well, there like self refrigerated, yeah, basically
keeps the Jews from leaking out and they can stay alive in the shell for awhile water tat is a big deal for growth,
so warmer water, the better, but not too warm irene
but colder water makes for more flavour, flavorful oysters, which I think you wouldn't want. You mean an oyster that you could potentially cheer the dude,
to war and fighting in sixteen sixty four,
india company bails and they turn over the island to the british they're like okay. You guys run this that they called the dutch yet junkies, a combo of john and cheese. Maybe maybe we could end the podcast right here, yeah, it's pretty peaks, vale John. That is made much more than just jordan cheese. Where would you get that from t another? The english called the dutch that I want to hear your dutch accent.
I was hoping for why would they college to people who have only john and cheat it's very hard? No, it is english sellers rode home about oysters, as you said, one quote at all, but at em boy point and several
other places. There is an abundance of brave oysters. We found some ray,
so so good. They said
the oysters could feed all of england and their shells provide provided line for stone house.
I've just finish my supper. Now, it's time to make a house, the british have loved oysters for centuries like going back in in fifty. Bees
The roman historian sellers wrote, quote poor, but
there is some good
in them, after all, they produce an oyster Wow way back then that's a way even back, then people are like what the fuck is with these people. The brits ate them
for breakfast lunch and dinner and oyster pie was really big. Oh hi. I know it's so hard for me to know that I am. I am that what we've found we, the dishes-
I will give you my shell dining room
once it is by cherries, apples, shell, town, oyster, delicious, oyster, high yeah, so that it seems like the grocers thing ever to me, but I don't know it's hard to come up.
something weirder to do, and there were a lot of people taking oysters out of hudson out of the the new york harbor.
And in sixteen seventy nine brookhaven long island pass an ordinance restricting the max number of boats allowed in the great south bay at ten ten boats total at a time at a time see that's the problem that doesn't really stop. It really does in
takes too. I think I think that's what it is in sixteen ninety nine, the british took down the wall and they find it
gigantic garbage dump and the garbage dump as leaching into the pond, which is called collect, pond
which is now a really grows trash strewn disease pond. So
looking businesses like tanners and butchers, set up shop around the pond
Is there going to pollute anyway, and they just pollute more, so it really stinks. It's a horrific stinking thing that they ve meant. What are they polluting not like? It's like
human piss and shit, and animal piss and shit and animal parts, and like just it's, refuse that stuff you throw away which right at this time, you're, probably not throwing away a lot. I dunno why you're totally animal poop, but I yeah I stopped using it. I keep it yeah
so in new york. The most common way at this time is to pick up.
Stirs. That's the way your are you as their eyes? Are you like having a competition with yourself to see how you can unfurl the grossest things to do with oysters, like oyster pie, sounds horrendous, but a pickled, oyster yeah? If I saw that in a jar I'd be like, I gotta go.
They also fried them. There was a big thing: that's ok! As far as shipping, they stay
they're, not fragile. They can be out of the water for days and then
and then they found out of his sprinkled them with oatmeal. They use that for nourishment and they live longer. As I honestly, I can't believe how, like I'd, never thought. I would feel like
empathy towards oysters. This is horrible. It's like you're taking oysters out of the ocean, and it's like they can live for days without be you know, in the oysters, like man we're really it's really good day, we can live.
days out here, but they're, just headed to a restaurant and then you're like how about a little oatmeal. Next man, that's fucking, delicious yeah. Only to just have some like fuckin brit, like no more
in from a cook book quote: sprinkle, with flour or or oatmeal, and salt cover with water do the same every day and they will fatten, as will we
The workers are harvesting mauro oysters than the english can buy. They all
though sold them to the west in the indies and southern europe, which isn't even legal, but they were making so many oysters that they were selling outside of england there's just too many oysters. Viet nam
merchants are megan tons of money or selling them for six times what they pay, the guys who collect them in the
all their picked and their shipped and months
are produce inferior, oysters there, that's when they spawn so their thinner and like translation site. What just happened months with
are yes, so the summer months is when their spawning, so they change they cause there.
Rather than get his honor whenever a heart, so they become a little bit thinner and their their shells are more translucent but they're. Ok to eat they just don't look, as does an oyster, usually does so people didn't like them as much of that.
Like those months kind of they tell they're taking off. So all of this eating voices leads to just tons of oyster shells in manhattan. That's where pearl street comes from, because pearl street was a big, a big mid and a big pile of oyster shells, so they they bury
to make the two make mortar it's so common. Now
to burn shells that homes are being
built with the sellers open on one side, so they could burn. Oyster shells
so many shells are being burned. The air in new york is now thick in. It stinks, imagined a great place.
In a hundred years or maybe less well. What time do we start this six year
in ninety years. They ve taken this beautiful place where there's fish they just come up to.
I suppose you could pick anything the and now they they destroyed the the pond. It's gonna fetid gross place,
we have only air is just vic and sticks, nude, oysters shells and everyone has like an oyster oven to burn the shares
and you walk around quite bad yeah yeah gosh. What took it so long for us to ruin everything and the law not be beer, just like cool,
cookie. Mangoes. Look at all these savages new look at them not making.
I'm really sorry. I've got the smoke toys to cough
They actually the le not be used oyster shells as money at which led teams that will no big oyster shells to clams and oyster shells, but that led to to the dutch controlling the money supply. It's ok, whatever cause
get up easier. You know the fed just raise the oyster shall re. Why the fuck I'm gonna, buy a house.
and you're nineteen. Seventy three a law was passed, forbidding, distilling of rum and burning of oysters shells and city limits,
Seventeen fourteen so.
Eleven years later the laws strengthened to cover a larger area because people they just are burning them outside the area right and it still was bad so that
By the big harbour, oysters mean
Fewer have to be picked, leaving many to keep growing, so they saw their because their bigger you got to pick is meant to catch oyster supply out there right if it going by way of glonass bay in brooklyn was a spy
surely known for big oysters. Now everyone who has ever live near the gowanus canal, like me, just is like what's happening, it's like the most polluted body of water by this, so no one wants to see the tenant
Stir this guy british writer, william, make peace. Thackeray said eating an american oyster was quote like eating a baby. What the fuck is wrong with this guy
was around like gets growth, but do that site command.
the ground, the hyperbole a little bit here. It is, I mean ten enjoys it, but I mean I get I mean it's, it would be. You know it's like eating a whale dick more like
ain't that doesn't help me like. I don't want to. I wanted me out baby eating and I want to eat away. I think as much as a baby. I don't want you neither one of em. That's what they're. Thank you for. Finally, getting on record with. Please thank you for a minute now, a kangaroo. Why what's your problem, you think about it? The baby was probably more tender. What's up dollar bears. This is gareth gareth from the dark you get. It listen shouted to the garments. Gareth army, I've got some you
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In an article in the independent reflector, it said no country had oysters of new quality chair
the oysters were easy to harvest, and so they are cheap. The poorest people live on oysters and bread, that's their basic diet.
In seventeen fifty the government band, oyster stirring from may first two september, first to help let egg laying season name, we just like just we're fine. We just.
Like bill. I give it to me up it. We're like now zealots salad, sell. It saved thing happened with tuna. Where there's just like it.
Maybe if you let like the tuna, like all the fish that, if you let them like repopulate, that'd be good and people are like yeah, but I gotta try to make some money today. So so you gonna do to it'll, be the end of him.
So the law, this law also stop slaves and servants from taking or selling oysters, which is totally fucked like those are the people like they're, like they are doing it for profit. I just the idea,
that? Don't listen to what you just said. We're like you know that thing that were ruining and arrive at setting our slaves aren't allowed to sell them. Ok, how do you think you're societies gone raina, pretty good?
pretty good. I just want to make sure that by slave can't sell the thing, that's free in the ocean, not
not even selling eating the slaves, can
It lives can have the slaves
get data these underwater things but
we maybe
I played not at all that this new,
I was mainly because new jersey residents and staten island residents are feuding over
Raritan bay and arthur, kill oyster bets so there
I did between staten, island and new york, and in there
really great oyster bed, so the two places are fighting over and and boy and after this ban, boats and equipment are now being seized from may first of september. First for violations,
sure and then new jersey, retaliates and they closed their beds in the exact same period. So
to anybody else to be from new jersey to take very oysters, but enforcement was up to the locals, so locals just did got bribed or whatever. Well, you just knew just use
you heard the year, like the oyster guy from new jersey, is now in charge of policing the beds like you, you basically deputize them, essentially oyster caps.
it's on NBC cabs.
What do you got your pact johnny? Not, then I should tell you just knocked and don't worry about it
ha was a little heavy luggage riding a little low. You know what I mean like bottom of the ocean. Lo yeah, I haven't put on a bunch of weight. I dunno, what's going on with me, there's something wrong with my eye. However, I believe it's glandular anyway good good.
see a no. No, no! You stay right here. What's gonna put up the bag,
sure thing I'll, just open up the takes off running, but what about bump bump bump bump bump in
but now I could hear the vampire vampire, but everywhere I can't get over this feds, but beggar oyster.
I mean, I'm not, then nothing. You got me. You got the whole.
My rarely dies. I just had to do something.
Geez I'm going to take one of these oysters and knock out your teeth. Okay, then cave your head in with a hey.
What the hell, how come always to colleagues, is that their way to violent, you see the one where that guy badge that guy's face in with the oil tanker after eight I like,
that episode, it made sense, yeah, yeah,.
So so again, this is that it doesn't stop the conflicts, these laws they passed
they basically draw a line feeling it's all soon. As I know, one like it is just the absurdity of thinking of like just like thinking of, but not be just been like
What like you just have oysters and we're just like,
fuck this up a so immediately
know you're you're, making a point because they could all have oysters if they weren't selling them all to the gluttonous. If it didn't come, if it didn't become a business,
if it was right and if this is not a thing we deal with now it's just where you're just like you have. If it was, if not, if everything wasn't just say, how do I make as much money as fuck? It possible offer that right? We could just
Will you just sit there just by some fruit instead yeah? Maybe I could be it
only through company in the world,
I did. I would always stood palace
soy, sauce or eaten in many ways. There's there were recipes for oyster sauces, they were put in pies, they were fried. They were stewed, they were rolled in cornmeal. They were pickled, they were collapse.
They were soup?
should we say inside cast called the collop, yes about wasters, baby! Think about it. Yes,.
staten island was worried about their beds, caused so much oyster stirring going on they barred oyster ring for anyone who is not a staten island resident, this
it would system at the time was just slaves carrying chamber parts to dump in the river right on the western, my god all these sorts of these things, but what's the worst that you could think of a better deal with its? I didn't. I think it's it's gotta, be that it's it's just all the stuff that
just like you've, never fully pondered, and then you garrett and you're like oh well, that's the version of anything possible yeah. That was it. I was hoping that wouldn't be what you said I just
my hand down and say flush, and then he takes it to toss it oysters weren't always kept in the best conditions. Author, Tobias smollett, said freshness was not always important and some oysters were kept in slime pits. Four days
is covered with quote vitriolic scum until they acquired a greenish color teeth, which was
desired, which they wanted they waved wants. What do you mean some people, like the taste that way some people liked oysters?
out of the slime pit. Yes, all look at one night:
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they are now like those line be orla is a bit and I've got to make a chamber pot you take
You're my slave
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worried about you so by mid century writes like seventeen fifties summer warning of possible destruction to, though oyster beds,
in seventeen. Sixty nine new jersey passed a law to further contain greedy neighbours. Raking up oysters simply too
burn for lime was banned. So even with
The oyster shells around people were still going out
and taking oysters just to use the live where chat on real a big reason is that oysters remain a cheap source of food and means of income for the poor. So you don't want people using it for, besides eating, you don't want them using it for fucking lime when it's what a lot of people are sustaining themselves on now, there's a dead
as if poor people can't go out and and eat, then you have to find another way to feed them. So they're like just let this thing happen like this is good for everybody. There's a big difference between today and then finally yeah we found it and
oyster carts are a kind of all over their mostly manned by black black workers. The first new york oysters,
our is open in seventeen. Sixty three in the basement of a broad street building, many taverns
opened in seventeen sixty six, there were two hundred and eighty two taverns in new york.
so. Oyster sellers are different. New thing drinking is very cheap, new york rum at this,
point competes with a new england, rum called kill, devil, kill them
twenty five cents, a gallon, bring it back. I'll call
is real, big issue. Bowery village
use an oyster house as its post office, while just what
The foot was anyone like hey. This is a fucking, terrible idea all around anyone notice. That is the worst thing we could possibly be doing.
This is a budget which the male smelled,
god. What do you think there's always in this now eyes from the power
the city is growing energy raw. I just I just need a mail. This guy are doing that. I don't know
The rich now live in brick story houses with views of the harbor
oh there's, no inequalities, you know flowing bay, they rose the rice theirs and for their fireplaces. Poor now are living in wooden shacks near the filthy, collect pond and they are eating nourish theirs in their basements. What once again, pod cast really does not cease to amaze the I mean on oil stir based society and economy. Its what's happened, the fact
yes, it states fully lake, it's always dynamics and this instrument of eggs, while
Charles dickens would equate poverty with oyster reading. We would like you would say, like you bear. The poor are the ones who we oysters, not true, but that's what
said so in seventeen. Seventy six war, obviously macro revolution breaks out. New york is very quickly captured by the british and
all the fishermen on staten island did not care, is much about the loyalists, as they did the oyster.
from new jersey. So
Whichever side one was on. The other side would take up arms against their opponents,
so they would use the war tab get weapons
the other guys that their fighting against cause the oysters right.
now, while the war is on and new york is under loyalist control there,
there's no trade and pickled oysters, so that just
I shut down and then so. Finally, a good thing that the virginia oysters which chesapeake bay is that you speak
maryland, but anyway they are united.
Also about this show you don't even wait for me to pitch and you're just like this guy
Do you is that? Do you know which one it is now? I don't know, of course not you don't. Even you barely know where Tampa bay is like that. You know that I don't miss tampa bay on the east coast or west coast of florida. Tampa bay on the west coast. East coast is on the east coast or west coast of florida. Tampa bay, east coast.
Was goes so
the third option. I'm actually you know it's crazy about me. I'm gonna jeopardy
watch jeopardy with me or be like well, what's gonna but dear,
anything like no, you actually must know a lot of shit, but there's some stuff- you don't know, but that's everybody about it's just this pipe cast this part. Guess all title could be gary blind spots. That's actually with the original name was.
yeah so anyway, so they, the the american revolution, shuts down the bat, the chesapeake bay, oyster business, because they just don't want ships coming through. So new york was the only place that was making oysters at all, and so the british leave in after the war, seventeen. Eighty three and people come back and
Just my hands destroyed, so they started kind of rebuilding and they widened streets and they narrow waterways, so trash fills in around peers.
Instead of cleaning up merchants, just patent dirt around the tree.
ash and extend the docks further out and
This way they add several blocks to lower manhattan.
Landfill becomes greenwich village,
there were sixty acres of landfill areas, anxious
you can imagine, were over oyster pets. It's amazing that it's an instinct
it's not like it's not like. I learned it.
Our instinct is to be the focus all up real bad. What should we do
Now the trash, the barrier- ok,
I mean- maybe maybe there thought is well there's oysters here and will just bury over
and then they'll just come back. Where
edge of the water is- or maybe
don't care, but either way they bury the oil.
Bed beds there. So there's no more oyster beds in that area,
Europe has had a trash problem since it became new york, it's just a stone
since day one. Sixteen,
when they had. Since the white man came to new york, they have yet we just like create a bunch of rubbish and we don't know what to do with it.
As an instead of being like our we living wrong. It's just I go where we had a fire, maybe space we shoot. This puts a turn around it and then make to pay a big
so local governments begin to feel increasing pressure to bar outsiders, even neighbours from local oyster bets
comes the steam engine
and in august eighteen, o seven, the first oysters are put on a steam ship and taken
up the hudson river to albany in thirty two hours, so that
if they can get albanian? They can be spread out to other places quicker and they just
an accident in the reach of the commercial oyster share must be like this steamships. Some guys didn't
we're just like what the fuck is. This one man called it quote: the horrible monster which was marching on the tide and lighting its path by the fire that it vomited say not that great for something
we'll just said that guy be the leader, but that I would be like that. I should lead us. I mean you
by the water. You just see this thing go by that site, coughing out black smoke, yeah so
dealers. However, I did just their cash and checks.
now. The new york begins shipping tons of oysters upstate and to europe. Oyster company start buying long island connecticut in new york oysters to ship such as
the two they ship to more places they start expanding where their buying the oysters from breaking the law
a buying, oysters front
entering the city in the summer months, is suspended so keep making money, so they pay off the government to get rid of the summer suspension.
It's just a few years later, the eerie canal opens up opening up tons of new markets oysters so before,
can. I was even done. Oyster companies
We're pudding adds to sell
oysters in in western europe.
And on sundays. Forty boats are now unloading, oysters and opening, so any sort of
restriction or regulation is pretty much over now, just because it such a boom profit,
providence and in the way our govern works as you by the politicians and then you and then they pretend not to day. They pretend that they're doing things for the public,
well, be its jobs, man, it's jobs, it's not even jobs, it's just pure! It's just yeah, but that's what they say
What we have here, we I well yet we have the the illusion is great
so oyster dealers now try to get their oysters to last longer through the winner and they re plant big oysters near the shore, so their exposed to low tide, so the rights
doses, that are ten feet. They take him and they put him up so there and the tides and
A few days later? They move
up again so there, even in lower tides and
they moved again, so they keep moving forward.
there doing. This is the oil
stirs learn to drink the water before it goes down
essentially getting the oysters to hold their breath in a way
so they're holding their water, so their tea
in the oysters to hold their water.
for when they're out of the water for hours its remarks
that way the oysters learn to be shut, so they can't ship, like the oysters, are like. Don't worry guys, will figures
If you just doing as well, because the waters coming in,
we need to be able to hold our breath. Ok, hey! What are you gonna turn out? It was just to do it. I diverge is doing this to be so that out like where we just it's like,
it's like. I always think about people will realise just now
I was young, I would go into a grocery store and I would be like. Oh very it's not watermelon season,
it's not uriens yeah right, they were
be there. There are. There are all these things now that are they groaning chilean other people
since that are in it and a different season, and now we're eating them
well year long and it's like that's not the way it's supposed to be, and what that means is is that someone is being exploited to grow that stuff and ship it here, and so you can have it and b have a convenient meal, and I,
that's why I love the farmers markets so much because the they're, just like
they don't have it. They have a new thing. Oh, my god have you ever when if you can eat a fresh farmer like if you can get a farmer, that's just live, eaten a fresh farmer and those are the best farm like a delicious. Just go to the farmers market.
by a farmer in could in any way you want some
I guess, he's never everyone, human seasonal yummy,
falling off falling off the track
but also in the grocery store. There's so much like chemical shit to make sure
worked at red or whatever it's like. Yes, some of this shit supposed to local have dented and demented, but people are just like. He writes,
the the law, barring the officers in the summer months, is suspended. As we said a few years later, the erie canal opens new. New moises are now flowing everywhere. Oyster dealers change the oysters, so they're lasting through the winter
by the eighteen twenties, these staten island oyster beds, start showing exhaustion dont. Now that happened, wonder what do you think? You know what I think I better
Cannot be we're going there at night, sick sons of bitches we're waiting for us to go to bed with our good system and their origin
his too much off the land. You probably right
most near beds are over harvested. They can't me to demand some beds or not
Clearly, baron cultivated oysters, however, have been around. For centuries, Aristotle wrote that oysters were moved to better spot
for growing and artificial beds were created by the romans
the romans associated oysters and wealth and even the even had a coin that was worth one oyster
Roman historian, a roman historian, said eber via talus aids. One thousand oysters and one meal is shut up. I want to see a receipt, that's bullshit!
guy. That guy was just like that happen after that
he die died, hope so
planting oysters, because the romans became very common in europe
in new york and not all bays were the same
amma's fires, as how oysters grew young oysters did well in the east, but not the west, but older ones did better in the west. So they start. Planning spat spots are little like two week old oysters and raised new oysters in the east bay intel. They were
large enough to move to the west, and then they move them when their whatever a year, no longer young oysters, and then they would grow so they're putting it in the places where they grow. The most based on their age and new york begins importing chesapeake bay oysters in eighteen, sixteen their smaller they grow faster. So they can
we import hundreds of thousands of oysters seeds a year to cultivate oysters dave. We have an oyster problem. There weren't enough oysters to feed all the people
We need the don't. You understand the oysters. We have a problem. If anybody blue at here, it's the oyster, think of Dave. We are the wrong drinking hand sanitizing. It is a serious problem, so no one can own an oyster, but you can't own one. It's not a thing. So picking oysters is like picking berries in afore
straight that that's what you're allowed to do you. They were literally viewing it. The way the law will not be viewed. Land except just oyster, bets, megabits
natural your bed. You can just got to anybody gotten pigott, because no one could own it.
Happier like there. That's manhattan witty why we
figured it out.
some guys couldn't afford to sail down. Chesapeake bay get their spats bring about play,
them, and they said those guys who could afford to do that
we're planting them unnatural beds. With wild oysters, so any
They should be able to collect their and it goes to court, my god, I'm the eyes.
Judge organised a gourd boys visit
a spin off of copper, oyster cobb, which was
off the air for violence, adjudged decided no one, but the state could own an oyster bed, but a person could lease it
from the state so long as there's no natural oyster beds around right. So now we're time an artificial cultivators or beds versus natural bets. Natural beds are still free for anybody
but cultivated ones you can also use, can release it like I'm here how to control of it right. I guess
two bedroom bed leases are being,
by a new york in new jersey for pretty much close to nothing. It's basically, first come first served as what's happening. You could put
bed down, and you got it it's yours, the amount
of area control
based on if you had the
and and the means to pull the oysters up right. If you could pull it off, you get plant them in, and so it's the right
again it's another this. This helps company rich companies over the small guy right. That's what we're talking about. So this opens the door for a huge oil stir. Cultivating industry, big oyster groups, form like the richmond county, oyster planting us
cs, blue eyes to call you back the ape they patrol their oyster beds for poachers
There are no record kept of the claims and the state gets no revenue from all of this. It's
very expensive to buy and move and plant them.
So pretty soon over a thousand men are cultivating oysters in oyster, big oyster. That's the big right. It's big
her voice during is the number one business in staten island and eighteen thirty. I wonder if you told the cannot not be that we would turn
species and do a thing like we're. Gonna go so burgers organ avert this
even though oysters were the thing to eat, and they were quite
Do rich people there was not yet a top notch restaurant in new york
so this is new york. Pre, fancy restaurant, it pretty much everyone's going to the same restaurant. At this point.
But they realize this when they open the erie canal, when the first boat came through and there was no place to hold the celebration for all the rich people right there like. Where do we? What do we do?
so in eighteen, thirty, four, a fancy restaurant was open del monaco at twenty three william street feel like is that still there it's still there yeah Del Monaco's is still in the archaea that they moved around a few times, but it's still a restaurant
the new first class eater e leads to a massive shift in the culture of new york. It serves french food and it's a hit,
with the well off soon other fancy places open kazoo like I'll look. We can make restaurant money off the rich like asked. Her house opens astor serve boiled cod with oysters, and always your pie and Del Monte goes was famous for its raw oysters with the railroad east coast. Ices are shipped all over the country and young illinois politician abraham lincoln through
oyster parties, where people eight hundreds of oysters. Bang me with this shit, it's the fuck. Are you doing tonight.
Sir party come on, I don't think you know have take. This nine enjoys turn, let's party, what
is wrong with you, man, I'm gonna, be the president. One day,
you'll see Jesus this shit again,
just can change that is rapidly oyster, fit you dork,
here. Throw the shells in my hat. Don't worry
There's room, oyster houses in new york start all you can eat many
His words starts. This is what
I globe. This bullshit is peeking all
you can eat
only americans could take food as an enemy, challenging them.
I bet you can,
All of these thing better show that state goose bars their due.
I'm glad you join me. I can't put as much food me as I can
H, lead all bad. Do I'm sick. As long as you put a picture of your wall, I mean did that
not be where the law not be just like. What are they doing? Fuckers?
there now challenging each other to see who can eat the most of them.
that's more than they need. You know,
eric demented.
It's like a real problem. The sixth sense is what you would get the for all you can eat raw oyster wow. Some recipes in cookbooks called four hundred
the oysters were what what be like be like well end of what should we make? It said
we're not make a man. What is that it is at all, as I know, but you did say they have tabled.
burn of vinegar a pinch of salt, one
I was annoyed oysters,
new york now near
as the best voices in the world and they now have the best port in the world, making it the world capital of oysters slavery,
abolished in new york in eighteen, twenty seven
and maryland had a bunch of free black people who couldn't own oil
which I don't know why maryland had so many free black people, but it had like a a a a large amount made because it where it is close to the south. I dunno whatever, but there's all these free black people who work the oyster beds,
the can on them. So they are moving staten island where they settle a commute,
on the south tip called sandy ground and when they get there, they were all very poor, but they work for white.
oyster men and they start saving their money and
they begin to go out on their own and then they start buying boats and they grow
food on their farms on the land and after a couple of decades they're doing well and they have brick houses, they would trade oysters for a brick to build the houses. I can just picture the white man looking from the hell. It has been on what I do,
like the direction this is headed in. Interestingly enough, the local
whites in the area were cool with it and got very got along very well the black community.
So santa ground becomes an african american centre and they're doing well, so black people from manhattan started moving down to staten island khazar like this is cool. It's it's. The oysters have created a way out for these people right out of poverty. It's an oil
instituted it. Stop you like it a little bit. No, no! I love it a lot. It gets one of the best things you've ever said thanks they open a private school and
They become an underground rail road stop, but their boats are constantly being searched for railway slaves, but there
thing right: they they ve got their own little world. So then the oyster dredge is created its very controversial. It's a heavy bar that you drag on the bed with a basket behind it and it just clears the bottom, a french.
government oyster expiry right that, for the french ease number one always to export rights to napoleon
and he said if you allowed
it's going to make the whole coast bare of oysters and the free,
and she began calling the oyster dredge, the oyster guillotine. You gotta love
It just do. As I say, I hated
eight away come on, we are we here. Are I mean we just basically, our short term thinking is amnesic.
where remarkable lovers: yes,
but this will ruin all the oyster red yeah, but then I get a bunch for today
and then you can all you can eat six sets so yeah at at the end of the day. It's just greedy people, not caring about the future.
That's all right. It is right, and it's certainly all this society. That's taken all this sudden
jersey, bands, dredging but planted beds. Could be dragged so its base,
like the natural that aim, solar, dredge, same sort of thing
once a year setting up on your own, because essentially there you know they put down, they put down planks and they put oysters on I'm ok, go ahead, knock yourself out,
chad law laws limiting dredging there there in place for years in new york, harbor as near its population, increases, oyster demand grows and natural values are being too
pleaded, let's go so. They start seeking out beds further out like the great south bay on long island,
sixty five miles remain at super hard to get too and move the oysters
and then the long island railroad arrives in eighteen. Sixty eight after nineteen hundred there are four oyster express trains a day out of long island
shut up shut your mouth. Why? Why,
I mean. Ok, nine am eleven. I am at two in five p m. The oyster expresses
oysters? Only don't you think at some point:
we found a better food,
I rather role why hagen
so I found these things are called apples free, our like any ordinary, like trout,.
but people like now we got,
their trades great south they oysters
Were excellent and highly sought after they were named blue points by an eighty,
In twelve war vet who used to patrol his bed with a loaded musket and take my leash from my cold dead? Clamp blue points were from his specific bed at your age, bluepoint
were the oyster brand. There are no better oyster Brandon annoy you got points, were it isn't a fabric jays, but then
soon after any big oyster from this great south bay burping. How blue points so they can have you fudged it right.
Two, dutch immigrants came and they used one side of the bay for planting and the other saltier side for growing them when they got a little older. New yorkers
New language are always looking for the hot new oyster right, new yorkers, like this, that's grow. What's the what's, what's the oyster the day, man what's, which
tortures killing command one of the oyster trains trans was thought: cove command, so prince bays, we're second to blue points
and one day a strong tied hits, and for the first time ever these huge salaries oysters are visible and their giant, but very tender, and the city goes bug. Fuck people are paying crazy prices,
but city merchant still called some oysters saddle rocks even after they were gone, so they could sell them for thirty cincy, so they basically decimated the they decimated it when it hit like. Once these days comes up, the water goes and expose them they're like oh, they just destroy it. They keep calling
they keep saying yeah. These are all you want: yeah, it's a rolex, yea age, a row legs
Just got some rocks you today. You buddy
yeah yeah yeah, that's just the craziest, so they stuck on. They can somber thirty cents each, whereas there was a song for a penny so that these are
Santa rocks eventually just became the name for large oysters, the weren't already a known brand, so eventually just the the idea of what they used to be changed into. Just like it's, a big oyster is a satellite.
and when new voices were found, papers would write about it as if there was a new medical breakthrough of land in eighteen. Fifty nine five connecticut oystermen were drifting and they dropped their dredge to use as an anchor near the opening to huntington bay, long island and when they pulled it up, it was packed with huge oysters, so they filled their boat and they made a pact with each other to not tell anyone else where they had found them. The city goes fucking nuts, when they bring these oysters in people want to know where they came from. Reporters are bugging them everyone's, like where'd. You get these,
sisters, someone finally pay is one of the guys five hundred dollars to spill the goods and the next day the new york daily tribune front page is the great oyster placer millions of dollars worth found great. It's excitement alongshore, and there was an oyster rush oysters
from all over, come because it's a natural bed at anybody can have at it right and the tribune
said, is an immense flee their path together, their bumping up master touching each other. We gotta take him away the daily tribunal,
wrote there were so many ships. The bed would be gone in dates. Man, we're vultures,
but around this time they realise that cultivating oysters they can make better oysters than than nature. Can people can plant them in
best environment for the stages of their life and spread them out. So,
crowding each other, so they're getting a lot of nutrients and fresh water,
everything they need meal, the usual stuff, and this means
two new yorkers? They will have an endless supply of oysters.
And so starting around this year that I'm talking about eighteen, sixty new york goes into an oyster mania lights and that that will be part two.
Oh, my god. How have we not already oyster mania like we're in always geranium lower? Not what we're not whom here
I can't even imagine the first part well yeah. The next part people start to actually lose their minds a little bit with the oysters. So that's something to look forward to holy shit.
So the main source of this is mark currencies. The big oyster also,
documents of the assembly of the state of new york issues, sixty eight through one fourteen by new york, state legislature and the new york times, a bunch of articles from that I haven't read that one. Yet I haven't read that one yet, and I read that one yet. So those are the main sources for part, one crazy yeah I mean if there was a god that being would be like yeah we're going to like take them up like the the imbalance that we just project constantly.
It's just so, if you think it, if you think about it from this, if you think the thing about it from this standpoint, if you have it, it is a matter where it is a nature. If you have some
living within the bounds of nature and someone else comes. That's living outside the bounds of nature,
the person living outside the bounds of nature either through a killed or that person will destroy everything. Yes,
We are now literally,
Rights of those are literally the only options like if someone doesn't want to live with in the recently announced, then
it's all right there. We just need aliens to come up with a human dredge and just be like way. Why and just like dread,
to be quite a bit like all, look, there's a lot of fat ones here
and then just like raises and little balls in their homes to relay now,
It's ready! That's why I always think. Like you know, people be like you know I I've like I, you know I mean I have like conflicting feelings over certain types of hunting. Obviously, and people were like well yeah, you got to hunt deer though, because they, you know that otherwise they'll you know they're they're, an invasive they're invasive and you're. Just like all right. Well, when do we start hunting humans and then, when you really think about it, that's already kind of happening. We are already kind of hunting humans, so
Well, one of the things about dears. This is called the carrying capacity right, the cake capacity, which is when there are too many like an animal. Like deer, they will become overwhelmed by infection and disease and become weaker and of all kinds of problems. So that's why you want
behind them, so they don't have the experience feel like you're going to think about my point. I think about mankind right now as a girl.
I mean seriously like we should just weaned we,
they are the invasive species that needs to be dealt with
anyway, I can't wait to see what happens when things get weird
yeah.
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