This is a can’t-miss interview with former NYC Mayor, and personal lawyer to the President, Rudy Giuliani. We discuss topics ranging from his war on crime as NYC Mayor, to his thoughts on the Spygate scandal, to his explosive revelations about the Biden family and Ukrainian election interference.
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closer. We address everything from the beginning, a personal story about me and the mayor to his time in New York, cleaning up the city in this war on crime and how specifically at work. But then we get this spy gate where he has some very interesting thoughts on that the energy report and then, ladies and gentlemen, the coup de Graf, the mayor's they are back in
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ladies and gentlemen? Stay you, and this is a great interview with Rudy Giuliani,
I M very excited. As I know, most of you in the audience are based on your emails and social media feedback about this interview with
former mayor of New York City and the personal attorney to the President, Mr Reul
of Giuliani mayor, Mr Mayer. Thank you very much for joining us. I deeply appreciate I'm really look forward this. Why look forward to it?
we have been very happy new year to you just a quick personal note. We met a long time ago when I was a police recruit new with a mayor in New York City. I'll, never forget you walked in
One police plaza and the sergeant who we were just in our gray uniform said everybody get up and snap due attention, a mayors here- and I was the first that maybe I met you you'd. It made me, but it was a great moment, United, cleaned up the city, and I talk about it all the time on Fox. Whenever I get the opportunity- and I very much admired your service to our country- and in particular,
but what you ve been doing. The last couple of years you ve been very courageous. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that before we get into the news of the day in Ukraine and in spite of what I wanted to talk about, I just want
a brief? We ask you about this. Given the downturn, sadly, we ve seen in New York City. So
the Giuliani a year has ended. We ve seen a backtracking on many of the policies you stuck by one of my redressed, often on Fox
friends was your commitment to broken windows, policing the
the idea that when you let the nuisance crimes go
committees of nuisance. Crimes are the people who want to break into houses and commits assaults and mother serious crimes. Later you can
is that you
your results in New York City, a Mr Mayer, were were dramatic. I mean for anyone who lived through it. It was it.
Different city when you were done a Europe,
What's on this now backtracking into you know, let everybody jumped the turnstile, do whatever they want carbon attitude. This has the rip your heart it does. It breaks my
are actually done, and, as was for some time now, I mean that vision.
Dispute about the broken windows. Theory is that of a public inquiry, democratic theory
literally comes from to Harvard LAW professes Wilson and killing goes back to the aid is an example.
Had to choose what you said here. You can't let people start breaking.
For start breaking the law small ways. Let him get away with it. It creates a bad example,
create and bad neighborhood show. But let's talk about this stupid,
I think that he's doing with no bail note, no one of the problems.
Taste- and you know this from the street when I was-
You have to Charlie. I came in here,
budgetary it was shown on. Drugs are locally Risa every drug dealer we get caught.
Later the drug dealers back shell and drugs. We get first of all.
It should on the block triggered a great way to make a living right. Here you make a fortune, you make a fortune for five weeks in a row.
You get a four hour little DR downtown and you come back, but he also were also there
you missed a coffee table rapidly.
I began to pour out so we started
notable day I did that
whenever the earth, the journey,
We turned around drugs
within three weeks, lorries are sadly estate. They escaped up to.
Up to wash tonight. So what
became mayor with Breton. We did
comprehensive programme. You shut up, conscious that we get it right,
Basically, we measured it.
Broken windows theory was party, so if you
if you got quoted a challenge that we fingerprinted you-
we put in overnight number one
it stops people from doing it and number two half of them have records
the first thing that have always started doing that is
Brad came into my office. He said you know the first three weeks. We
it for large well just by catch those guys. We're,
aren't you watch that range from you know not paying
I support tomorrow
Then we have a serial killer this guy.
Kill somebody in more women than men.
Somebody admit job and many times
someone on the east side by the river,
the woman fought him off and we got a fingerprint. We match the fingerprint.
Your guy would adopt a church. Where are we
before me,
caught that guy out of another son of SAM.
You, it's a mayor that nobody thought of this.
Poor, you guys. I mean the idea when you say Comstock for the audience, if you're unfamiliar, that was it briefly,
for computer statistical modelling and- and I remember being a police officer- and
and again a mayor.
The police commanders we're we're good, but they weren't used to that and I'll never forget sitting in patrol Borough, Queens, north and everybody was in a panic, because
they go to a constant meeting and nobody had ever held on the carpet when people put up the blazer pointer, it said: hey, we look at
computer, the computer data and there's been for robberies on this corner. What are you doing? Their commanders of the priest would be sweating bullets because I've never been question this before her. That was the product of
jack. Maple, that's right, always brightens assisted in transit. He used to keep records you detailed records of all the transit a rich, but of course you couldn't do that with seventy seven precepts.
And I used to be in charge of the F B. I crimes interested in the Reagan administration that are used to drive me crazy, then that we will putting out the conflict to fix six months after it was over. I used to say to myself to bear these couldn't be
Here is like in a business she
you're doing in the middle of the year and corrected so we sat down
talked about it. We believe in
wouldn't even really know what a computer working time
and one of the top should. We can put this on a computer and
actually show if you put in a computer I'll show my
the seventy seven Creasy up at a political level to say you don't
to do that. We could transmit it by telling telephone and we all start
laughing. I get. Why give you an idea of how I want
I'm a gold watch and the system, I would say there are five.
Responsible for reduction in crime, but the system I started it
Bloomberg used effectively and the time both of us will finish.
Crime with down old eighty percent.
I remember, eighty percent of a city was a remarkably different and I'm not sure the general public understands what a sea change in policing that was, you know I know.
Fortunately, given the these sad political nature of just about everything these days, you wouldn't think fighting crime would turn into a partisan issue. Homage has said:
but given that again, the political environment have insisted on attacking you and forgotten, really what you did. New York became a model all over the country, but I just want to get because it just people forget that you were involved. I wanna get your reaction, given that what happened in there,
An events yesterday President knighted states, thankfully making another strong move, showing he's not one to be tolerant with law, but given your history, obviously with nine eleven, what's yours,
for your incredible response posts, nine eleven,
like leadership, is a may of New York. This
the killing of Sula money is just a transformative moment in foreign and,
frankly, in domestic policy to fighting terrorism and its use
incredible that the Democrats, cancer,
indeed just celebrate what is an unabashedly good moment for the United States. You know
I try to avoid attacking anyone based on like patriotism, where I'm not going to do that, but if you can,
The destruction of this man at something like
the destruction of Ben Lobby, and then he was
I have a personal issue with him.
Beyond the fact that he killed many of our soldiers. He also
you did many of the iranian refugees, but I work was
three thousand reform. I got out of Iraq into Albania
They were being killed by so many people,
people who are against the regime they take.
Refuge in Iraq when
Were there we protected them for you,
Tommy did when we left because-
Joe Biden? Couldn't couldn't do a status of forces agreement? We
stupidly pulled orchards out and they
people, like shooting Dutch, show a money would go in every three or four weeks and killed. Two three
or five of them. The man is a monster. Now he's living now dead, monster and and
People have impact there
because, unlike near particularly
these deranged terrors
you lose. Somebody like this. She can't be replaced right away. You know if it is there for
I've been take it out in the first,
couple years. I wonder:
anybody else could have put together Nazi Germany European
it speaks recognised that there are people that are one of a kind of goodness the people there
what about high evil there
the operational knowledge contained in his head. Was there
the stated and would run
Why should we have led to the deaths of awe
thousands, if not tens, of thousands of more people. I wanted to get your reaction. I knew of Madeira and you know the iranian government in the next couple of years and the baby, Kosovo we gotta
to make it to make it a negative decision about what they do about it.
Just now, we got to protest, although it
covered by a corrupt trash, the protests bearing
Worse and worse, I have very good
source in Albania. That information, because
early of additional
should I work with- and the people
actually getting worse and worse, the killing
the streets are getting worse and worse and the protest to start,
starting to now involve the middle class people
DR didn't: go on strike digital gone on strike, there's gonna be
obliged to questions gonna be
I turn to the streets and kill their own. People in mass numbers are not the show
I wouldn't do that.
One of the major shop flooding
at the joys? The shop
could have turned around use the army that we still loyal to go, kill its own citizens,
a very worthy decided. Not to do that. I don't
these maniacs and went out, maybe not having a guy like stolen money around. Maybe we
briefly odds that they'll combination
I don't want it. You know, give any false hope that regime
gonna fall down half? If not, can it s not going to remain how we ve seen it all over the world, the Soviet Union Ceausescu? You can only suppress the the urge for
and freedom for so long, and here I think their days are numbered to moving onto the Idee report. We saw the idea report came out just an explosive report, again, sadly, played down by a lot of the anti trump crowd out there, that
for some reason seems to be on the side of a new found police day, which I find bizarre about whatever leisurely edgy report. It is clear as day now that the present knighted states is campaign was spied on again
contrary to the media. Talking points its laid out very clearly and I'm not to play the euphemism game with it aspire com
and show human, informing and confidentially meant that it was a spy me. Let's just talk in plain English, like
attorney General BAR
predicate here was clearly
dossier and opposition political research. That was all now. We know for a fact to be nonsense. Do you
there's gonna, be as the President's attorney personal charities are going to be any accountability for him. I mean the president's right.
Still a citizen. Mr Mayer has
These rights were clearly. I
I'd, like the ideas report, was very, very good.
But it didn t many items
He had the waiter
exactly the right conclusions,
I do not understand how you can engage in that kind of conduct and not
as the intent
harm the election, not have damaged,
prejudice and biased,
how do we demonstrate prejudicial buys? We demonstrated-
what we say and what we do exactly what they were saying. Is we hate trump? We wanted,
I trust you wanna preventable,
the incredible review
Becomes president, we want to take em out his breath as president
they lie they treated. If you read
they feel dossier. I better
first time you read it then
agent, you started a laugh
certain by intelligence, the profession right it wasn't even written by the National enquire himself, a piece of complete garbage can I did. I helped to start the five, the court with believe it or not, showed a gentleman,
While- and I probably read some of the original Pfizer large when we were in the cold war and weak,
this thing? Almost like monk side, the sacred duty, it goes on
The other warrants we would get like on the mafia, like all criminals, are challenged by
worse, nobody there.
We're gonna challenges and we could just come right.
Bed, roman and photographs, you take away all your privacy
they got boy. You're coach
and we treated. You know everything
have you checked out? Everything had to be collaborated when he
It wasn't verifying call me said that my first reaction can we worked me what hey Jack s it. What do you say
why? Because you didn't verify there, what facts to verify
right on the face of it. There
a specific date. The Kohen wish
to be in Prague.
You're right? I will need. I would pull that date. Bite out. I shed a guy's we'd have something to verify and they claim
there was another transaction
consulate in Miami.
We got another one to verify. What is it?
We are fighting to one of those that would have found out, there's no consulate in Miami
and called he had been brought even the state
carbon figured ice. Kathleen Catholic knew there was no consulate, Miami. She wasn't even an investigator. She Kroner notes, no consulate Miami. This wasn't complicated to show them
This statement I dont, know what has happened, but I dont know
what has happened to the concept of reckless disregard for the truth now as proof of intent
I use a lot of the prosecutor. They use a lot of white collar criminals. They got a lot of business. People in jail, for rather too
it knowledge. I may call me no exact
what he was doing. Any lied,
he perjured himself and it would be a shame if he got away with it now. The guy is a sign ball. Why are the worst now? I agree him in bread and I always go back and forth. Who is the worst operator in this case? Someone
The historic, let's get the point:
was it made by biologists
actually expect a little bit more.
Tariffs when we're dealing with.
Presidential candidate
very serious thing: you're doing right investigating a bit
that's candidate. I mean they want to impeach President Club
this ridiculous conversation, what's the which they say it,
the twenty twenty election, which is ridiculous, had nothing to do with it.
Twenty illusion that investigation was intended.
It was at the twenty twenty election. They left the black ledger in August of twenty,
and I have a job,
We say that guy awaited shed we're going
I'll destroy. They thought
We're gonna take him out before they thought. When I
put out the ledger of metaphor. Getting the briar babbling
and trunks campaign, because it
There were many things at all. Would entrance campaign proved to be
You talk
the Ukrainians at leaked out to be clear right, because that's why I was gonna go neck, the Ukrainians. First of all, the Ukrainians didn't do it on their own. They, Ukrainians were asked to do that. Ghana, they were asked to do
bad by members of Obama's and a member
by these there it was done
the White House.
January. There are two witnesses to that, while there
another witness who met with shall who works for the Democratic National Committee
All this is ukrainian official. Get me all the dirty
you get me, I'm Trump,
junior and armed men
but I'm getting plenty and I'm turning it over, but it is. We have eight. We have it,
in her own writing on me
twenty, sixteen explaining to abolish the coms director and the DMZ that she's getting ukrainian dirt and turning it.
Which is the New York Times, and she, the black
let your is gonna show up at the end of the month. This is like I could have given this case
Your first year prosecutor in the EU as a journey to others, and they come.
Convictions on every gap is
this the very definition, MR mayor of Foreign collusion,
Perhaps you had worked with the Dnc in coordination with the prior presidential administration, working
representatives of a five minute asking them the impact the election. I mean what what am I missing here? They sounded like our kaluza you're missing is what is missing is a crime that is corrupted thing so bad
that our law enforcement systems at the very top are afraid of me.
Criticise them, they're afraid if they take on this,
in case they gotta be criticized buttons.
Bribery case, it is clear, as the north, on your face, I prosecuted many
idly cases it hardly
one was stronger, average,
a contraction. We got four witnesses. You got document
you ve got money laundering up there. You know what that you can
race, in a minute I mean I,
We gotta get prosecutors, my eyes caught
overwhelming case that this whole scheme could put together by
why should you thought you were gonna? Lose his company Gallina big Group, still five billion dollars he hears it binds gonna beat appointment for
for Ukraine by gonna, give out all the money he's gonna be more powerful than the president. He hired
I'm not bite and shun hires Joe to protect and to protect his business,
and when it has to be protected, Joe comes across that exactly
now, so a chess and brought is running or you want to look at something similar. Look up the word job
white man and then
a little column.
What money do the Bible family make every time he was a point man,
you crazy. They made eight million and it may get up.
Fifteen million when the offence in China
James Biden, who never built a house in his life,
put into a one point: five billion dollar housing deal in Iraq when Joe became the appointment and he got
Five hundred million of that
and in China the kid
turns out of the military for Fallon Drug Chess and bankrupt that accompany became partners with the bank. A China
Joe Borg, negotiations with China
here are your becomes point- man shall say:
I'm going to to you: U S Right Iraqi, can't get a status of the agreement.
Where'd you get your damn thing about corruption except contribute to it and China. He came
It would have the Chinese and the Shetland Islands or get the towers reduced, but in each case the family, but by the ILO
call it crime, family made millions and
billions of dollars to me as a racket?
I recall guests,
Mr Mayer that these stories, some of them were covered before Joe Biden was running for president now granted with a slant, obviously towards protecting, but I'd I've been cover. I have a different source from a long time ago had been pushing
talk to me on Ukraine, I'm suggesting how awful it really was in the source was accurate, but the wash
imposed in politico, had previously covered the two separate incidents we're talking about we're talking, but I know they're related political at road extensively about ukrainian involved. Many interfering in the twenty sixteen election can vulgar now infamous story and the Washington Post and written about this suspicious trip Biden makes to Ukraine and twenty fourteen and Mr Mayer on. Coincidentally, just a couple weeks later, his son gets this lucrative gay over in Ukraine with Sledge s Keys company bereavement. Now the media's turn that around and is attacking you for saying what they already reported on in the past. The irony is thick, it is, it is
unbelievable horrible comment on our times that this
the thing can happen. I you know, then I was sitting here my office, where I am right now when my pal bark short brought this to me and I've made com
hack again with my original shores.
Had been anonymous and introduced now willing to come forward on his own
when he sat here and he told me the story about police,
in Ukraine, which is the way it was first presented to me a year and a half ago,
and he mentioned guide- and he showed me the tape,
Biden bragging about the bribe, I said,
oh my god, to bodies involved, you should be
Nice easy case
to do so much to protect this guy. Taking a strategy
sadly you were right- I just had an instant. I just had an instinct that these
people when it's Hilary or abide nor neighbouring protecting job with thirty or forty years. When you re
the story of Joe Biden you're, going to see the ban.
In eighteen? Seventy three, the brother gotta.
We'd outline. What do you do
like you. Do the Senate and Joe
go, get him out of it. Then you're going to see
the shenanigans with that image beyond bank, where Joe, the great liberal Democrat,
wants to tighten up the law on bankruptcy towards harder become bankrupt because the sun,
Oh show job for the back and then you're going to see that they apply
together. A private equity fund was Joe
rather than the sun shining Joe. It's gonna get all the business force and that goes on
How do this happens? We half have. The same answer goes back thirty years
Oh, I don't know my family business. I don't,
talk to my family about China. I don't know he came to China with me, but I didn't know we got one point: five billion
Oh, are you weren't? You? You cry, I assure you that Ukraine, but I had no idea. He was involved in the most
notorious company in Ukraine, Perry Body, hoping you created right. I just
white man. I didn't know that
Gee, I don't know my my brother, my brother got
billion for
browser. You rat Joanna RE, ass, my family business start the satellite take Corleone. You know I mean it's bizarre. He listened a job requires one of two things Mr Mayer number one it requires
fighting to be really been
virtually inapt, which I dont believe, or
or to. Of course she knew what was going on. I mean those are. The is no option see here, unfortunately, exit question. I have taken up a lot of your time, but this is
important one
I'm just going to even open ended. What exactly was Marie Ivanovitch, our former ambassador to Ukraine,
to you over there and the major saying me prefaces possess. This is a little person automakers I appeared on this whenever you want to Call- and I want to be overly dramatically watch list or keep an eye on these people list. That apparently was being run by some people in Ukraine who
concerned about my commentary when I like you was trying to expose the malfeasance knew what was best or even of a job to over there
but she was she would put in under Obama,
but another recommendation of Georgia.
Like a lot of the more deportation to that
embassy, encoding, George can't
basically ran it as an outpost of the Democratic National Committee during the
watching the jokingly. Ukraine was already frequently campaign office and
It was her embassy that was deeply involved,
gathering the dirt and passing it along to
the credit National Committee, including the alleged black letter
its current out by the way to be a broad approval for
not only evidence that was passed on. It was drawn up,
Also,
all the time, the new prosecuted by the selected prosecutor to dismiss the case,
on shore roses NGO that was involved,
the gathering, the pollution material and
and corrupted the prosecutor's office, and then
the one who publicize the black ledger could try to hurt trump. She got that case,
so she interfered and corrupted the prosecutor's office, and then she kept denying visage.
All these witnesses, including Mr Shokhin, wanted
under the United States and give
information to the: U S: attorney's office, to the Justice Department. They didn't trust
yes, the eye, because they believe that the FBI, agent and f b I ate
Nay Greenway, who is now
working for showers body like that
with corrupt, they believed that she was corrupt till you. When you deal with our
they finally hired a warrior Dan and the oil, the Southern did. I presented these facts and they ignored they ignore it.
Because you know what closure then in in Ukraine that hurt the trunk campaign, she's been kind of fit the script.
You started investigating that the New York Times might return to Iraq
listen and these will be reached. I believe prosecutors offices. I don't know I think,
I think more about taking to be criticised by the press. I used to feel
but a good one. I had to do a controversial case. I knew I was right. I should feel good about myself.
Yeah. I just. I find it bizarre that she, Marie Evolving, has been a five,
by the press and no one's. Even my only concern and we need some evidence higher target year period, Peter structure to them.
Get outta here a year ago, now
Bruce or Nellie or conflict of interests, Biden, bribery,
he bright lights, extortion,
My country,
These are not. These are not what little shot all kind of like
We could puzzles you gotta put together issues like first year. Criminal here is. I know it's lamb in the bright face in their completely ignoring it, but
the voices like yourself, Mr Mayer, we're finally certainly give the story out there. I can
he's tell when you're on the target. When I read media headlines attacking you at says to me, I need this may actually by Astrid close attention to your twitter feed because it already not EVA I've. Well, I'm crazy, they that's what they say, but we know that's not true. We know you're absolutely over that our again, Mr Mayer. Thank you for your time. I sincerely appreciate and and and more importantly, thank you to use
most of this country I was in New York when odious, dear heroic leadership. It was really something to behold. Then it's really in order to talk to you on the show. I really appreciate your time agro. Thank you, Mr Mayer authorities Babyhood here
Well, that was an explosive interview.
Did you hear all that,
Marie Ivanovitch what happened in Ukraine. The binds he's take on spike,
that was really one of the most fascinating interviews. I've done whether my time and talk radio here on Fox or else
I want to thank the mayor for on folks. Listen to that one again that information about buying their stuff in there. I had not her before. I'm really really happy have gotten that information out there to the mayor. Has been fighting a good fight for a long time I have been announced
up about our guests next week, you're gonna, absolutely love don't go anywhere. I pretty sure
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