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Beautiful ones are weird ones in the whole culture is too so interesting. I think like what we should do another gallery of like Elena, like have you seen these photo realistic ones now we're all put together. Another gallery mention this stuff is unbelievable gather some great once Serbia, but bad tat is a pretty hilarious. It's nice to laugh at some one of the six with its ear so arm the photo realistic tattoo, that's a fairly recent event yeah, but tattoos themselves are pretty old yeah. We. I was happy to go back to the nineteenth century you're like now. We need to go back away further than that. Well, they have some evidence that its it gets super interest in the nineteenth century, but the oldest fiscal body, the Iceman Etsy Betsy, has TAT is near. They are at issue and take it. Attempts to help

No, he had a black cross on the inside of his left, knee in six straight lines on his lower back and then parallel lines on its ankles legs and risk, and they think because they found joint disease under the tattoos that they thought it was supposed to relieve pain, necessarily like artistic. So is it a cross like a crucifix or a plus side can see he lived the news before Christ, probably of persons who have been like a christian day, maybe is way ahead of its time. Your idea, he was a seer you're, a lawyer and a pretty good hunter to air the earliest tattoo. That is, there were just sort of abstract patterns for many years and which, under the ice age, you know they were like come with Jackson, Pollock back then exactly, but there was one of an actual thing: the God best be ass, the Egyptian gotta revelry and they found

newbie in mummies females dating back to four hundred BC. Think the direct predecessor, people who get cocoa Pelee tattooed on what is that he's like a bring our good time? Several years are commonly south his yes, they do the flute. You ve seen millions really he's like a south western indian motif, I pray recommends and then, of course, the Greeks and Romans. They were kind of ahead of the game on everything it s a tattoo criminals and slaves yeah. I saw that so like a few g for fugitive on their foreheads hasty ran away be for ever known yet had to in used to be a punishment in some cultures like the Greeks and Romans. Here, some native american tribes tattooed slaves to oh yeah. Yeah, I'm in our premises is likewise basically like branding oh yeah, if you're a runaway slave and you encounter somebody was also slave owner and they see that Europe faces TAT. You put your

walking by yourself, they may gradually and take you back of course, that up with Jews in the Holocaust or what you here, and I saw that it's sort of a trend now for modern jewish people to get that, as a tribute here in your family was really interesting or gaze today, get pink triangles, which was a symbol for homosexuals that was tattooed on them and in by the Nazis and war. Were Tuzla really is ever that came from here, but now some braced yes interesting- but yet the Nazis gave tattooing a bad name in like World Brown, but it had a real direct impact on the decline of tattoos in America for a while. Yet because of that, well, let's go back. A little further looks like I said, nineteenth century. Yes, there

tattooing we talked about it in the Maori episode dire. We talked about tattooing because they were pretty closely related to the progenitors of tattoos, yet tribes from Polynesia the trial- and the word tat too, is a comes from a polynesian word tutao, which basically means to strike, and they think it's on a man appear in a guy who sail with Captain Cook through Polynesia. A botanist just a banks was the one who introduced the word tattoo to the last year in previous to that they had. You know when they are exploring. Exports were exploring the South Pacific in Latin America. They saw tattoos they had known the moors and the more set you had to do so. They weren't like super knocked out by seeing tat, is like, oh, my god, where they doing, nor did they adopt it because they didn't letting care about assimilating. There were just kind of conquering yeah, not like hey. That's me. Maybe we should try, it then

The idea that sailors, the ones who visited Polynesia were sailors. They were the first ones to adopt tattoos themselves for the idea of sale and tattoos going hand in hand came from. Like goes back to the very beginning, yet The original westerners to get tat is, and sailors have an hour been part of the mainstream very frequently there like basically mercenaries at sea, back. Then they were as well. I'm theory and I was on the run here. They were kind of french dwellers not entirely, but more than the average Joe yet, and so since sailors get and also they were copying, those tattoos from primitive people's year, TAT is almost out of the gate when introduced to the west became associated with the marginalized their bags yeah, eventually Circus folk yeah Psycho were freaks yeah. There is

named the great Konstantin Prince Constantine, and he was he basically waiting a significant amount of money getting his whole body, tattooed eyelids, penis the whole sharing and ended up making a thousand, dollars a week in the eighteen seventies without with Pity Barnum Circus, which is twenty grand a week into, doesn't twelve dollars health just from being tattooed here, but he was still a circus performer right. So there is this long standing Association of Tattoos with, fringe dwellers in the west, now lasted until it the seventies and eighties in the idea that there was associate the criminal element in it. Even I give you the worst of a criminal had the more tat is you had basically yeah. You know that the whole like four analogy thing like you, you could supposedly look at prisoner measure your physical attribute right hell. What your moral

character. Was they people thought, like? Tattoos were just an outward sign of that year, like the more tattoos you had, the workers you were, which is kind of like people, still think that like, if you see baker, due to the mortar, to see as the more of an outlaw hears yeah mean it ever been more accepted than it is today, and it still with certain people, knew no kind of unseemly. Yeah placement also counts to usher like if you have something that stops at your wrist. Yours, you basically saying like I'm still trying to be a part of normal society. Can they can? Where long, shirtsleeves, and also my tattoos, a face. Fair to your hearing basically said, like I don't care about being a member of society here dinner, but yeah or you now having a job it spread. At least right. You know said next tell us that even still around I haven't get an idea of a popped into my head. I think it is something I think I've seen a billboard here, their sincere.

Buzz marketing? Theirs is weird little anomaly in history: where in the night in during the victorian age, the late nineteenth early Twentyth century entity already in age. If you wanna get technical, there is a choice. And among the upper class. Yet this is really remarkable to me that, like even while, the people who had tattoos worthy lowliest of the low near as far as western society might not even just you know, working class people like the criminal fringe, the others circus freak prostitute were the ones with with tattoos you're, all of a sudden, the elite of the West and materially royalty in some way, in some cases, to adopt TAT use as a status, symbol, yeah, infer, pretty interesting reason, quality or yeah. Once Japan, Japan was kind of closed for business for a couple hundred years to most of the western world.

And they turned around the open sign in eighteen, fifty three and it turns out they had some remarkable tattoo artist in Japan and so the quality went up in it. They weren't. You know, like the street tattoos that you would see, and so the the elite of Europe, go to Japan, sometimes even royalty, to get tattooed by these masters right. I was the one guy's name, Yoshi, Suki, horrid Toto, very nice things yeah they sat down. There was one quote from a guy named Vanderdendur. Did he read a book I think you did. I think this article will return him on an article by Agnes Zack, Mars EK, yet she's, quoting like sociologists, an anthropologist, unearthly yeah and thanks for this article to preserve the helpless piece together, the history for sure yeah but yeah, visiting Japan. Without being tattooed by say it

you're sure sickly, hurry Toto was like visiting Rome and not seeing the pope. There was a big deal and it was weird in that fashion. Trends tended to go from the top down, and this came from the bottom up. Yams differ but it was like you if you're an elite western european and you had a tattoo yeah like it like you said it stood in stark contrast to the work, some other like criminals were guinea was illegally or homeboys with the criminal industry. All of a sudden right here I mean average person looking at the two side by side with vehicles is obviously a much more elaborate, much more detailed, much more expensive tattoo here, so that you, among the victorian elite, its it was expensive. Yeah is number one you had to travel to Japan to get it, let alone the cost of the TED

Secondly, it was very time consuming again here to travel to Japan, but he had to sit there for a very long time, physicists prior. The advent of a tattoo guns- motorized tattoo machine- I'm so somebody used a needle and this kind of stabbed it in and out maybe a couple of times a second for many many many seconds for many days, I would imagine great so the average worker couldn't afford the time to sit there and get a tattoo. They couldn't afford the expensive they can afford the time. So if you had a very elaborate japanese tattoo that you want to Japan to get its it, I'm a very wealthy men of leisure, especially those dollar signs, yeah on your forehead, burn your eyelids, but things reverse

in eighteen. Anyone when the first machine was invented by Samuel Riley, which will get too in a minute, but vague democratized, Hetty yeah. Basically, in a poor people can now get tattoos. It look good and then the elite, like our? We too want I'm anymore than right, but see anywhere what the elite did with their tattoos. If they just withdrew a thumb, if they d get taken off well, they price were like more close. There are anywhere in a logical of those victims were allowed. Claudia year, like you said, the m. The tattoo gun was invented in eighteen, ninety one, but even before that in the United States, the first professional tattoo shop had opened almost fifty years before

a guy named Martin Hildebrand opened a shop in eighteen, forty, six in New York City worlds and most of his clientele was military, specially sailors- and it was here that this, this association with the military soldiers and sailors getting tattoos developed and became popularized in America, yeah became mom. They called the golden age of tattooing between the end W W one in the end of W W to an that's, because it was linked to patriotism manner. It was enough to see soldier with a tattoo with an anchor, unlike the United States of America like the flag or something else. It was very good,

It wasn't look down upon it all this while yet put there's another article era to buy Audrey Portela. They had allowed the same stuff, but it was more expansive again. I think she was saying, like America loved it soldiers, yeah and serenity associated with soldiers. America, love to like you, couldn't right, the tattoos right beginning and want it is like a lovable mark of a soldier near and the soldier just beat Hitler there is winning the war, so you you would love their taxes to its. Why we tolerate Parrot sailors watch out with him on the shoulder out other high spirits he once away. I worked at a place at exotic birds. Did you know that parents wild Travelin flocks yeah, I never thought about that cause. You only see em like by themselves. Maybe they're sharing a cage with one other parrot Seamen

in Pasadena. Oh I've never seen it. It's pretty cool out, shooting one time in cheating: parents nets shooting tv, commercial, her! As a p, I get an. I saw, a flock of parents, I think, they're appearance very bizarre doesn't really weird cause. I just thought: look at all that money. Finding a fair to extensive. Did you jump after a data caught like for them? They didn't survivor now, you said, the golden age of tattooing happened between more one where we're too, and we are to talk about how Hitler, of course greeted up for everybody here. Any dick, and afterwards to, but also during that time the golden age. Not only was it like patriotic sailors and soldiers who were getting tattoos, people are having their kids tattooed in the thirties. I had never heard this

is the Limburg baby you're like the social security, the statute on their child yeah, then other people get there just like grown ups gather so security number tattooed, apparently because they placed a trauma. The man of import on those things when I first came out, but I can't you think, like after seeing it a few times, you gonna be like. Didn't think I was going to be able to memorize the string of numbers credits in there and now I have to tell you this. If I weird for soldiers, sometimes I get There- no name rank and date of birth, the serial number two per year. And then apparently in the mid fiftys. The Secretary of Defence said You know the: U S, my my experience and attack from the Rusty's, so just to make sure everybody can get the medical care they need. Maybe we should get our blood types tattooed on us in some people,

now in this. Is that what you have a negative on the back of your neck? Yes, but he go it's a ban. Reference actually are. We can talk about. Our debt. Is unemployment. I forgot my later if you wanna hear about my only if it is to listen that judge enhancement- oh yeah, it's true. I camera the episode number, the Sorry John site. So, let's move on to the nineteen these things went down hill fast, because outbreaks of hepatitis and tattoo parlors were shut down like in New York City. They were banned between nineteen sixty one and ninety. Ninety seven in Massachusetts they were illegal. Tattoo parlors really go up until two thousand, which is hard to believe. And tat memory skateboarding, we said like once, skateboarding came running nineteen fifty nine year, never ever really went away again, pushed underground same thing with her to serve in every time it fell out of the mainstream, getting a tattoo became even more of a symbol of rejection of society here which,

you know made it even cooler and while I was forced under, out in and made illegal by those bands in the sixtys. It was taken up by again fringe groups, like biker gangs, yeah to colonel gangs, sure over the zoo suit Riot, oh yeah, so one of my favorite chose it with them the great want. Yet there was like. I don't remember if we talk about enough, for there is a whole aspect of it. Where gang tattoos, your tattoos, became associate with tanks from this issue. Right yeah, like there, the press reported and these groups, which a kind of boys who had she cannot style tattoos which is beautiful stuff by the way here. Did you look it up yeah. It's like that that lettering with the amazing flourishes yeah, mostly just black right. Like photo realistic gum, shaded, black and white. What this blacklist he said, images of like the virgin Mary you're going hands is its US or life,

on gang member. Right like it looks like a photograph, basically yeah, so it for a realistic needs. Yet better. The that became associated tanker two's, especially Blake Span again TAT is relating oh yeah. Sorry, they became society from the zoo right now. This critical you should listen about gas was. It is called hazards its work. It was like did did you start, arrives demagoguery and ask the obvious question ever going to answer. I was really get there gives one of those where people like it suits. You ended up. I guess I'm due to turn that really anxious super interesting spot in the history of will allay, which has often of black spot there so the nineteen seventies things came around a bit because of the counter called and civil rights movements and black power in gay, gay rights, movement,

and women's Leben. There are these causes. Now that people began to tattoo on their bodies just to show our unity, and or just you know the hippies, of course, with mushrooms and marijuana leaves and no keep on track and that our crumb stuff he added the Czech endued here, in person hours and all sorts of things like that. So it became a little more common, but it was still on the French. I think right through the the eighties, really, don't you think, Pretty much and then all of a sudden Americans kinder loosen up about it. A little bit seems like it. I think what happened is crossed the threshold they're, all things that are part of the current culture cross near a collapsing

the two words no longer part of the fringe of enough people, gray, something that generational shift happens. Yeah in more than ever it become part of the mainstream like there is going to be an enormous amount of tattooed grandparents. Thirty forty year area, like shirts yeah neck tattoo, like just plain old parents with neck tat, I couldn't wait. I can you say that in writing. They're gonna live that long to see all that bad. Yet that's it become Jordan tolerated a more and more and more ever since the eightys or Ninetys. By up to today, it's like, I can't imagine there being more of a critical mass of people. Getting tat is are now in a more effective, predictable, probably become passe in the next couple of years, because so many people are getting tattoos. I think it's already getting a little of ass. They don't you, I don't exactly how much on the pulse of feathers terrorism authority. The dinner I could see,

I do know one of the new trends, and I hadn't heard this either are a uv, sensitive, inks dude. So, like you have a tattoo that you can't see, and leisure under a black light. At a rate, I saw a very cool tattoo with that technique and there was no photo realistic, but an amazing illustration across the upper back of a person of Yoda. Brandishing a lifesaver and the light Sabre had the uv ink else's all too. But the light Sabre glowed under black lie. That's pretty. It was amazing yeah. You want the semi that yeah and then another how new this is, but on breast cancer survivors they undergo mastectomies, sometimes will have

reconstructive surgery and have three d nipples tattooed on their newly reconstructed breast it. So it's like a combination of scar advocating an end tattooing will. Basically you know when you get the breast reconstruction, you don't get a nipple with that right, so they'll just tat, he went on are the tent like three d perspective or like they raise the skin alone already perspective. I gotcha yeah dislike artistic, a talent I guess near by daily. Do that stuff there? So that's gonna go to aid so that the printed in view of the history, I would say so and I guess let's get down to them

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is key to stir Neil with that's delivering ink through the needle into your dormice goes through your epidermis. A couple millimetres in your skin into your damn is because your appetite miss well, you shut it. Its full dead skin cells, virtually regenerating skin cells terms, is comparatively stable. So when you stick it with some ink, it's the gonna stay here until you're, seeing through the outer layer of your skin, his remembering the myth, fussing episode, we talked about how blood looks blue there, as you can see through your skin right that I see tat you

they does fade a little bit over the years, of course, is not in their like. Your tattoos got great when you first get it, and over the years is gonna, look worse and worse, seeing get it touched up, but I'm apparently the elbows knuckles knees and feet or more likely to fade over the years, and I think we ve been said, the needle it it's rents were like a sewing machine, yeah, there's a motor and you gotta foot pedal and you ve got basically between fifty and three thousand times per minute. This needles bobbing up and down like a song. She- and I guess you want the one- that's going three thousand per minute- not the prison model at fifty per minute.

Yeah, that's probably free people why it's funny bring a prison like. Can we talk about everything it presented to you so check, imprison you dont have a tattoo. Gonna goes three thousand punctures per minute. I guess it's what you call it punks per man here here. Instead, your things like a toothbrush with a staple that somebody took out of a man mean attached to it or a mechanical pencil and use like pen ink. Or maybe they harvest the ink from a newspaper, there's a lot of like really horrible ways that they give prison tattoo yeah they. Actually, there are prison tattoo guns that you can make its not always just like one individual puncture at a time like he'll, take an old tape, player and use the motor from that to make one, but you see in a huff, has to tape, player, motor

right. It's you got him fast forward. Yeah, that's a great and I've seen where they use like boot, Paolo burned, boot, polish and get the suit or melt styrofoam yeah. That does not seem like it would take to the human body, my oil, to starve homer plaster poisonous. It must have a Marino gang emblems aura that date. All generally, some sort of meaning like why there and there may be sure or who their associated with her. I don't want to be associated with yeah, but it's video get the opposite gang like a circle in a flash common prison tattoo and then for need. Also user. Everything from Ike Springs from a pen like a guitar string, yeah guitar strings, big yeah, it's kind of very do I yet the eye, I d I why, for the most part, does you out there listening to his pockets, are not going to be getting prison

two! If you get a tattoo, you can we go into a tattoo parlour and they're gonna use that that guy, that was invented first in eighteen. Ninety one, again you Samuel, o o Reilly gap and he actually model his invention after an invention by Thomas Edison does basically like an etching pen yeah in this case. If you know what, if I just modify this a little bit and handsome ink go through some, a tube system we can use, this is a pretty great tattoo. Gun in Bam and today like it's. Basically, the same gap can change that. Much now I saw that somebody in invented one in two thousand. Its pneumatic ease, compressed air and it seems like farce, is very lightweight. It's just that take the whole thing. It's just throw it in an auto Clayton sterilised hollow. You have to take it apart. The next wave- I guess I think most of my electromagnetic now most of em here- that I think that the only one that's not interesting.

I guess we should talk a little bit about sterilization, maybe yeah I mean we just explain tat. You re aside from the artistic tower, announce how I do it. What now you do like part of the artistic talent, is when you're drawing on a sheet of paper year. All of the shading all that stuff, it's all in a basically flat two dimensional surface when you're doing with skin you have to, aware of how deeply needles going yet to select your needles based on what kinds you want! Yeah, like there's needles, have different tapers, which makes them you're, not pointy different diameters and then they can be grouped together, What you're trying to do to create big lie rounded lines all that stuff. So you have to the same. What you're doing with needles usher? Yet they have artistic talent, although not by law,.

And then you have to be. You have to be, I guess well versed in using human skin as a canvas you have seen, I think, sometimes or practice, unlike our watermelons in Canada and things like that, this for themselves? I can remember his name, then the boy with a w and his website address them down boy Don T of you, I M De L. The Y got be each time the better website on the internet right now. Frankly, next the stuff, you should know dot com, but he is a series of taxidermy pigs that he's done like elaborate chicano style tattoos all over. I really really neat looking legal practice in some yeah yeah that this guy so unworthy practice an onion answer. Ok,

like you can buy. One is TAT you fix for tens of thousands of dollars, o thou art, it's weird so arm, but yet so the point is tat. You artist has largely taken account here, including safety precautions to yeah I, but Let's go and talk about what you're. What's gonna happen? When you go in there, ok you're gonna, walk in there. You can be drunk supposedly like it's illegal to tattoo somebody who's in toxic. I don't think I still, I think it's Up to the shop from what I've seen, I think people I've asked tattoo people. Would you take to a drunk person and they have, and I guess it depends on how it is, but the ones I know has been answered. Yes, I thought there are some states that it's against the law. It is eighty somebody inebriated, so you're not drunk you're. You dont, you tat. You are interested in your

two maybe the design already at the go. That's what I would recommend or you can go in and look at the myriad stars on the wall of what they call Flash, which are all the the clip art of the tattoo world, we're does the right kind of re. I like that barbed wire armband or I like that job, symbol for something that I dont understand. Yeah, that's very dangerous. Supposedly and then you know your picture, your design or you come in with your own, like it said, and then they will draw it on your arm with the or since a little draw it with a medical, great pan. The arrow medical, great tat this before the tattoo right good tattoo shop, should give you the pins they're, not gonna, reuse and nation. It's this was to be Europe seeking to get home, so they draw on your skin. They

then they start tattooing. Basically, going over that outlining. It is the first thing they do. They caught black work and the reason also that they drive ostensible it on your skin. First is because your skin stretches during the tattoo process, so. As long as they're. Following that line, you gonna go back to the way it looked before the skin stretched, but if they dont- and they just do it without a stickler without it longer. It's gonna turn out weird. I imagine there some free drawers, don't you think artist that are like really so good that they can just invent something sure like it in a moment, but then they should so it onto your skin, because you can predict which ways the skins can stretch yeah a guarantee. Others people out there that nonsensical I wouldn't go to announce densely suggests- is all about the sensor for good reason

so they can do their backward you're gonna outline. It is just a little single Tipp needle at that point, yet the Incas pretty thin- and this is basically just to get your your basic outline. Go and see you know You have not supervision that shaded or outline aurora or thick at this point right, and then they use differently a different needle They are often a combination of needle that'll, be the stuff or flat around or whatever, and they commenced with the shading. And the shading is it connects all of the black work here. It fills in any lines are gaps. It's a gap in the work is called a holiday for those kind of honey and that's like either it didn't take or the artist miss that part in the shading part is supposed to cover that up right and connect dollar to make sure there's no holidays, but we should say if you paid, into the tattoo artist if it's a right handed tattoo artist, they're gonna start.

Doing the outlined in the black work from the bottom right away, upward to the left and the reason they do those because, as they are doing the tattoo, they need to clean up the blood yeah. There constantly wiping run tat during wiping tattoo exactly and if you do that, you're gonna Wifi, Stenzel, Jerry work their way up the stenzel rather than down where they would smear. Gentlemen, it would be problematic, that's right in between each step to you're, gonna, get it cleaned and wiped off and then they're gonna restart. Again like for the shading. Then what comes next, which is the colouring it's gonna? You know pending what you want you might, if the Jakarta styles, not always coloured, and sometimes it's just like outlines. But sometimes gotta have that thing fully covered in and that's when it gets super painful right, they're gonna the thing over and over and over anything, my God is it not fully covered in yet

then they say we're almost there, feel a white headed and feel like you might want to pass a hot I mean, depending on the tattoo you're, getting forgetting like a huge peace done like they may just like the outlining in one year and then the shading in another and then the coloring in another, like three different sessions yet and over a span of days, perhaps or weeks or months, yet again, still, which want the sudden, after all, that after they do its process year each session they're, gonna clean your tattoo abandoned you on your way and likely said it depends on how you tolerate pain, some people say it doesn't hurt at all people, have a really hard time of it well depends on where the tattoo is here that it is hugely important. As far as pain is concerned, you are bony. Areas are tough and hurt and

found the inside of the armpit like a really fleshy area, is super super painful, like if you get an armed manner. Something inside your arm hurts a lot but am outside like over muscle. It's not nearly as paint nodded it's like, I would say, like a shoulder, unlike upper back like those you're, not gonna, be as painful, but you know it feels like he's like someone is drawing on you with that we will be apparent yet the Basinger sorted what it feels like it is fairly. I'll, but, like I said it depends on who you are some people dislike. It's no big deal, I remember the first one I got. I was a little. I got a light headed in here. He said it was common. He said doesn't mean you can't tell repaying, is just like an unusual, but like bodily reaction like it's like stop. Yes, I pass out like we'll stop waiting.

So after they bandage you up and send you on your way to going to issue some advice for caring for your tattoo. It's not like you just go home and forget about it like that. There is a process that takes place and on you. You can indeed be on top of it depending on the tattoo parlor. You go to you, you could get very different in sometimes contradictory advice, but furthermore, they're gonna tell you to remove that bandaged that they put on after an hour or two to let the tattoo brief near you can. Wanna, keep it clean and wash it every once in a while with lukewarm water and a little the anti by artic soap. It I'd like to hear your soap there, for you wanna, do it gently and when you dry, when a pallet dry, you don't wanna rabbit the one Arab you don't want to take a bath. You don't want it urge your tattoo, and you also don't wanna, let the shower just be down on it now and if

starts to scale up a little disorder. Let it run its course. You don't start picking scabs indefinitely yeah exactly, but it should have a flakes overwrite early ear, and when that happens, then you supposed to put our motion. I was always told that you put on a new foreign or something similar the whole time. But apparently these days they say don't use in any kind of ointment because it can actually reach the color out. Yeah. I've gotten different sets of instructions here, and it is worth stressing right that goes right. Here I mean these are from like proto to party some say, use ointment some say: don't they wanted you saw him and they say keep a thin layer on at all times to keep it from scarring re other say: don't do that just keep it clean and dry and then, as it serves a flake, can put I'm like a nice like light lotion you to keep it moisturize near and then it'll help the flaking process, and then everything

I'm off in your skin, will literally flake off scab off here and once that happens, you're tattoos complete a few weeks after you went into the tattoo parlor here but in the meantime you I stared assign you don't want to go in a pool sure Can you don't want a bunch of water dousing? Your tattoo now also gonna have to start by close that show off your tattoo you're gonna wanna go out the sleeves value. Teaser! That's right, where low half sure if you have the very popular lower back to to. Basically, you are suggesting like MAC. It's always Sunnyvale in Philadelphia. Go by your first appeared dickies yeah, but out that's about it. Ok, maybe we're here. Two tattoos range and price greatly from the pin What you want, obviously, and how detailed it is, do how good it.

Artist you're working with yeah, that was of those things where it's like you pay, for which a get exactly sure I had I've, got a pretty bad tattoo on one arm, from this lady in Arizona here even in Europe,. Even wanted any more here, ain't gonna removed, I know, but then it's like why, like what's a purpose, it's under my short sleeves. It's like no big deal here, but I'm definitely of these seventeen percent that regrets it and it's not a regret like a wake up every day and wish it inhabit. But back then wish it were there when you're lounging at the pool yeah, and yet this is worse or go that way. You can always wear like a black armband induced the fame by ass, to feel you're one of my friends down near enough to get a chance. You have one now cover well uh yeah, just get bad luck. His friends Roy

but here they can be like fifty two hundred bucks for a little tiny one. If you want to get that Georgia Peach on your, but the big Firstly, I saw a hundred hours. I value the ESA two thousand thirteen Pew survey found, like the average cost of a small tattoos. Forty five bucks here, but if you want like revered tattoo artists, like you, gotta allay or New York, Her- and you know you want cat VON D to give you a tattoo. I can't imagine how much her hourly rate must be. Yes, replied charged by the outgoing well. Most of them do especially for a big piece, really yeah see the ones I've seen they'll just look at the peace, or maybe

does have a sense of how many hours it'll take pride, but if they're doing like a whole sleeve reacting like that or your whole back, it's gonna take multiple sessions. They charge by the hour and reaches into the hundreds easily. But did you get to walk around and say Katmandu did my tattoo right. I met her yeah cause she tattooed my back. I gave her six thousand dollars. Good for her. That's what I say we want to tell you about the Subaru Love promise right we have a super outback. Emily does, and we ve had to these now and now we love the company even more because of the Subaru LE promise. So Subaru has made a commitment by the company and its retailers to do by the communities that we all live in and work in and play in Dr Supervision, since two thousand fifteen Subaru its retailers and they leukemia and lymphoma society have delivered craft kits and blankets to more than one hundred thousand patients across a nation yeah, that's right in this past year.

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on there for a very long time. Not only are you paying for artistic ability you're paying for technical ability to ideally. So somebody who can do a really good tat you can make it look exactly like you wanted, but can also make it stay, keep her from fading yeah overtime. This basically keep looking sharp as well. So, like you said, you get what you pay for TAT is difficult Yeah, and that goes for safety to we ve been dancing around this, so I guess we should is going to talk about. You since your working with needles in there's blood? There are dangers, of course, like hepatitis. That is a real thing that has happened. Any kind of blood infectious disease could be spread. There have been zero reported cases of HIV Visa TAT, At this point the CDC says, but that doesn't mean in some random situation that could possibly happen. But if therefore

The protocols of safety, which is a three pronged approach of sterilization, disposal, materials and then hand sanitation and just basic sanitation. Then it's a pretty low chance of of any kind of hepatitis or anything like that right. But you shouldn't be scared, but you should be aware of the candidates who prey you're walking into it. It sounds like a blood borne pathogens. They cannot. You can also get like a skin and hundred thirty tattoo parlor to but any tattoo parlor with itself following the same blood borne pathogens, rules that hospitals and doctors, offices, user and I'm. So if you go into a tattoo parlour. What's gonna happen when you sit down and you get your you start to get you tattooed on there's gonna be a whole lot of stuff laid out on a tray that looks basically like a surgical tree. Certain surgeons, instant,

straight here a good artist, will explain all the stuff to you as well right exactly what they're doing why they're doing exactly and most of the packages, the needles, the ink the ink cops all this stuff or all pre packaged in sterile packaging there there is opened in front of you they're all single use right, it's elsewhere! turn away, afterward and then in between uses the stuff that isn't reuse. Bull, like the tattoo gun the tubing system. All this stuff here is first to be put in. What's colon autoclave, which uses heat pressure in time to totally kill any organism on this stuff on this equipment like nothing left alive. So there's like a process where they put this in autoclave exhaustless, said some of the least it the ones. Look like a easy back of an early warning that pressure cooker out. It's like the oven and open

in for a certain amount of time. Something like come, I think, to noon fifty degrees for thirty minutes. Yet you got two methods to fifty Fahrenheit under ten pounds of pressure for thirty minutes or appear in a hurry in crank up the hill of it. The two seventy under fifteen pounds of pressure for fifteen minutes above those well killed. Everything is pretty interesting, make they put the different parts ended special pouches that you seal up and the parties have these indicators trips that show whether the stuff is sterile or not yet, and the indicators ships are actually made in some cases of little microbes. That will germinate, I guess, due to the steam that they use, if it doesnt Rita certain temperature really yeah, so if the Strip and when they Germany, they change color. So if the ship is a certain color

four x amount of minutes or whatever that not the temperature wasn't reached in those instruments, aren't sterile, then that call it circle. You are the FDA them regulate tattoo ink, which is a little surprised by that an apparently you can experience burning with an mri because of metallic picnic we have to take out like piercings and always stuffing on an mri because a huge magnet there. I just had an MRI yesterday what my first one, what yeah yogurt. Yet my lower back, but have you ever had one? I know it was really weird. How long are you there for about twenty five minutes? And it was in other things, no more than like three inches from the Tipp, your nose, so bad news, if you have any,

kind of claustrophobia. Well, there's open MRI spoke. I hear you pay for him. You know me this clause. I would probably lose it cost me. A hundred fifty bucks, the something good insurance area, and of course, the first thing I want to do a scratch. My health centres I went in there were any does have the suffering that would have yet to hear whether you know that in this way, but it was the thing that was remarkable to me: was the noise like clicking sound dude? It's also it fell, sounds like you're in a german dance club per year in it Very there are all these different noises, but it would literally be like and its super loudly plugs, and I M really. Yemen had no idea, you like they slid me in there and there would be like a r r, but super loud. I learned. Something else will come in and go we we we're we're. Knife is really cool and it would would change sound

like every like couple of minutes and what are right when you got bored with its second new we're man had no idea made noises like that, and what I can figure out how to look into it is what happens when you like? Is it a mechanical thing going on? I don't know: Have we don't want just I memorized now I liked you know. I know you ve done it. I'm like using memorizes like lie the teachers and stuff like that here said: did you could you feel your tattoo is burning? Now I don't know if they were concentrated on the lower back, and I don't have a tramp stance and I wouldn't know The reason it burns is because some pigments, some attaching pigments, are metallic and so the MRI being each made. It draws the metallic pigment, I guess toward the top of the skin. That creates a burning sensation grazing and also, apparently, in other some tattoo make up permanent makeup. Yeah you can get like eyeliner tutor

what have you and that supposedly can actually mess up an mri of a person's brain because is often Alec pigment. So we get a cosmetic that you have eyeliner then your screwed for you, I just don't- have any neurological problems, let's get device anyway, if you want to go get blood. There might be some restrictions if, depending on how recently you ve had your tattoo and what stature in American Red Cross. If you have had a tattoo in the past year, doesn't accept your blood unless your parlor is state regulated and apparently must states, don't regular So it depends. I saw that there were a lot of regulated. States are three that have dislike do whatever you want. North Dakota New Mexico in Washington DC. Like are all this basically like we have no regulations was ever interesting lot estates dont have state regulations, but there

like local ordinances, yeah, almost all states forbid tattooing minors without apparent consent, yeah failure in some states, even a felony. If you care to a minor and then other states have state regulations were like. The department of Health regulates tattoo parlours and most regulated states, which is most states yeah. Tattoo artist has to be licensed, which basically means like you, go, take a health class and then pass an exam right in your license detours, which means again, there's no no study of artistic ability of testing of artistic ability. Here, if you can pass his health examined, most state you're, a bona fide tattoo artist who can charge money

make people very, very angry. When you finish your shoddy work, we can regulate that. You can't you know, so you can open this art gallery cause you're, no good painter. Now it's true Vienna, but I tell you how they like other people. I get that right, but its subjective rights, Italy is saying that the way the Good NEWS is that as tatters have become or more widespread, and hence more more lucrative a lot more people have been coming out of arts, yeah, I'm getting in detail to church there, not necessarily self totter, their formerly reigned? Artists who are doing tattoo can primates more money quicker as attached to artists out of art school than he can selling your painting, I'm sure the incomes more steady for sure. Are it there's a few more things we can talk about? You hit the cosmetic tattoos there. If your vision, there are vague in tat, you parlors good luck. Finding one cause

not super! You know abundant. Does the so expensive, but a lot of tat to Ache is made with bone jar and that is burnt. Animal bones sometimes ease the reason of shall act, beetles and the EU and sometimes like the serpents that they use it? If you like really begin united, I want them to wash your skin with something that has been tested on animals. Even me, sometimes prep the area by rubbing a piece of wrought chicken breast on it I mean there's also you'd, be very surprised. You would never notice it unless you're in the irish people, in doing so, given the fact that it was good and then you got the hinted tat to a very popular in indian culture, but apparently very dangerous to, I didn't realize, is well. I can't

natural henna is derived from a plant and that's gonna die, that's light. Orange gonna cut what kind of a rust color and that is safe because it is natural and it will it's a temporary thing imperator to my friend Sima, when she got married at her. Ah, you know before putting the day before all the bridesmaids got. These like amazing hinted tat is here and she gets the most. You know the bridesmaids gets on, but she was like all over hurt like face and Armenians really gorgeous stuff, it's in a big part of the culture and in heritage, but Black Hannah contain synthetic ingredients, including he d who you gonna drive for another p there. Now, when the Mean P, when a dying Muslims finally Indiaman they did it. The family Indiaman three times

and that is coal tarts found in Qatar and it can cause permanent, scarring and really bad reactions. So, if you gotta get a candidate to use natural or in China, yes or if your kid gets, Cracker Jack's, have you seen the octopus either Finally, I never have, as I saw the other day again and maybe the worst movie tat you have ever seen It looked literally like a crackerjack statue that they put on this lady cursing it's it's an octave person. You know James Bond has her in bed and my heart remarks about it and it had a closed shop side of it in his life, like peeling off at the edges. It was read out the day. I d been like a wire wore his his bond movies have not each well by the way which one is it Roger mourner yeah love those through the best thought about this, but

I urge you to go. Watch octopus, IE nine was seen her now, but I watched them my tie the other night that was pretty good he's, like inexplicably surly and my own. I really like real weird like that foster while as being interviewed by Tralee, rose or something like looking at everybody on the corner of his eye. It's weird interesting there's something wrong with russian border ceiling alone. Gaddafi's at and then I guess we can cover removal near about one point: six billion is spent in the: U S and tat each year. This disappear by the way to the two thousand thirteen pupil out it. So you know it's cool and its reliable fourteen percent of all Americans have at least once too, if you're, between eighteen and twenty five thirty six percent, an observer,

It's a little bit over twenty six to forty year olds have the most forty percent. Now of twenty six to forty. All Americans have tattoos yeah. Next, forty percent, less free- I that's close. The half for tat, and I mention that seventeen percent have some regret. Think five percent cover up the tattoo with another tattoo, an eleven percent, try complete removal, witches But we're out here and were almost we're. Almost there there's a gears, twenty one thousand tattoo parlours and the? U S near so again. Take your time to go, find the best one that you can afford sure and not just that statistically but make sure when you go in everybody's wearing gloves all the stuff is sterile they're, not joking around with with the blood borne pathogen rules, Yeah like there be interference, is serious, cause you're, getting punctured. Several

sometimes a minute and every one of those people, wounds is an opportunity for an infection near you, don't want to skin infection, so yeah don't take it lightly and don't go to attach a partner that takes the lightly to yet, and I don't want to discriminate against new businesses, but in the case of a tattoo parlor, maybe look at what has been around for a little while and has a good reputation and enough I'd go to flatter opening day. You know unless there given out a real great disk might so check. Is seventeen percent of people regret there to have some regret and another? That means, because only eleven percent have it removes. I guess the other six percent are like me: they're, like those teeth it here so check prior to the eighties. People still wanted to he's removed lighting eighties, yes here, but there weren't blazers available places where we use today the train fire this getting your techy remove. Basically, man

You're just gonna scar over the area, pretty much Durham, abrasion. Basically, sounding off your tattoo slowly not to be confused, micro, Durham Abrasion, which is still in use. Today's demonstration is basically like using a cheek she's greater than most like come at some with will achieve greater than other tattoo. That sounds right. Cry of surgery was his where they freeze it off sounds pretty bad was well and then there's this regular old surgery cutting off yet were they cut out the the part and if it's a big old tattoo they're, probably and introduce king graph yeah, but only saw the tattoo anymore you're. But thankfully, now lasers and even use this right yeah later removal hurts like the dickens does really it hurts is bad is getting. As you have not maybe a little more depending what's it feels it feels like somebody's frying bacon right next year that our skin

it didn't smell like it hurts like the break in Greece, is jumping off. I knew skin. Ok now herds bad, but I mean like it's nothing that you can tolerate by a lot of places. They do laser tat removal will also offer like a local, anesthetic, anti cheap right. I just by mine the thumb here, I can make it through having I like some like huge pain, tolerance guy. Anything like I say, I'm average as far as pain threshold goes it your average pain in your tea on the cheapside. Me and inertia, what how many treatments did you get so supply or, unlike faded enough at it. Have shown that yes, I am I want to get rid of that said to the problem. Is that places going and here's a little key for you? Basically anybody came,

laser in charge, whatever they want for techy removal failure. Fortunately, we are friends called group on that. These laser techy removal places frequently used so look for a group on first and get like a package leaking get him first cheapest. Two or three sessions for fifty or sixty box, reticent bad at all. Right. I wait maybe six times so far and I would say it's two thirds of the way gone. The problem is the last laser place I went to said. Like we reached the limit of lasers, you should do more you're a brazen. I don't particularly believe him, but I haven't gone and found another place yet gotcha so sure deciding now what your final steps will be. Well, my final, so would be like giving more laser removal arrived it. It's not guaranteed like any place, will tell you like. I can't guarantee I'm gonna give us all the way,

If it doesn't come all the way off, then I'm out a bunch of money. So I'm now looking for a place where I feel comfortable, trusting their expertise and that place says yes, we can get this off with laser, nothin. I gotta look into micro to immigration and then how does the laser work exactly that net disbursed apart the ink, so it there's is as exactly right at the laser is attuned to the pigment. Currently green is the hardest to get rid of blue and black or the easiest to get rid of, and the lasers there's different lasers use different crystals, I guess to target pigment selectively in its gesture synthetic pigman and secondly, it shouldn't affect your body

national pigment, ok and it goes in and breaks it up and does little pieces of Pigman are absorbed by your immune system and spit out near sweat, belong with all sorts of the detritus from yourselves and all that that's pretty cool awesome. I think. Look into its I mean and again the pain is not intolerable either. If you go in the first few sessions, they're gonna get rid of it. I get going like go away dramatically is as he gets further along. It gets more difficult bright, and yet this summer, really knows what they're doing knows, what kind of laser to use? What Paul setting use it on you and isn't gonna overcharge. You are right to really think about it. The freak at one folks, because it's gonna cost you money and pain, going in and then later on, money in vain. If you want it removed threat and that's the truth, if you want to see some really weird stuff, you can look up Gregory

Mclaren or a lucky diamond rich. He is the world's most tattooed man. He is one hundred percent tattooed. Every part of his body, including eyelids in, the eyelids on the inside of eyelids under his force skin inside of his ears mouth. While he's completely Do you remember those two twin hit men on breaking bad? Yes, one of them has touches on their eyelids a real life, and I read an interview with a man. He said they use the plastics soon overs eyeball and pull the eyelid over and then tattooed. It I'm like, I think, that's worse than the tattooing part like having a play exclusion against your eyelid pulled over it, that's how he did, and if you

see something even weirder, go look up, stocking cat or Dennis Abner AV any are, and this is a guy he's dead now, but he had plastic surgeries and modified his body, along with facial tattoos, to look like at like a tiger failure- and I have you seen a big old body- modifications big in japan- they go in and pump something in to create this round protrusion on the forehead, that's hollow in the centre. So it's like a beggar head. It's my hour is very odd We have always wanted to bagel. There's like this strange trend in Japan. The thing we should do and unjust body modification people take it too, like super extremes these days, let's do is get whiskers, were with implanted so basically like raw blow in behind the candelabra. Exactly we and our lives tattoos everything there is to know about thirty.

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