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2022-11-07 | 🔗

Democrats and Republicans hold dueling rallies in Pennsylvania as the midterm campaign comes to a close. Jon, Jon and Tommy touch down in Nevada to talk to candidates and Vote Save America volunteers. And later, a game that asks whether an $8 Twitter subscription could ever be worth it.

 

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the welcome to pod, save america, I'm Jon February, I'm john love! It I'm tommy vietor on the today show our final pre election pod will talk about how both parties, clothes with doing rallies in pennsylvania, featuring Joe Biden, Barack obama and donald trump what will be watching for an election night in what it felt like on the ground in nevada this weekend you also hear from some of the organizers and candidates we talked to in LAS vegas and later will play a little game about elon musk twitter should be fun, but first, if you are listening to this before the poles have closed, you can still.
make a difference in this election, we are heading down to irvine. After we finished recording to help get out the vote for Katie porter, if you go to vote, save america dot, com, slash volunteer, will have all as a ways for you to channel your anxiety into actual useful action right up until the polls closed, so I'd do it right now it matters could come right down to the wire and a whole bunch of different races. Alright, let's get to the news. Three presidents, two parties, one perennial battleground state of pennsylvania, to where all the action wasn't the final weekend of the twenty twenty two midterms in philadelphia, presidents Biden and Obama spoke at a rally for Josh shapiro, who has a healthy lead doug mastery ato and the governors race and John federation, who is somehow basically tied with doktor oz here some of what they said at the event has.
In pennsylvania, the I lived in pennsylvania longer than ours has lived in pennsylvania and I moved away when I was ten years old. This guy loves to talk a good game about freedom right. Let me tell you something: it's not freedom, women, what they're allowed to do with their bodies freedom, freedom to tell our children what books their allowed the red its freedom when he gets did decide who you're allowed mary, I say: love is it's about fundamental values that my grandparents from Kansas,
pardon me up with values. You grew up with values. We try to teach our kids values, we learned churches and mosques and synagogues and temples, honesty, fairness, opportunity, hard work, Shapiro and John fetterman stand for the poor where'd, you guys think of the that's final rally in fully that the judge para speech got quite a bit attraction I got one message box subscriber so we can counter, let us very pfeiffer rifts. It was great to you know like I think, because jog master auto is such a terrible candidate. Ah, I think, like Josh shapiro has had a little bit of space and hasn't been sort of covered for how kind of discipline and excellent campaign he's been in, but I'm glad to see cause, he did or he's been doing a roof like that for quite some time, and it is plain to see it get a little national and because I think it it wasn't
that it was on message and covering a lot of issues that we all think is important. It was. It was sort of to me like oh, like when, when we talk in the abstract, about democrats trying to take the mantle freedom and using that as a big part of our argument. It is easy to imagine it it's nice to see it in actual practice, and it was like. Oh, that is like a really powerful argument, a broad big argument for a kind of like cut of freedom, politics that I think is very exciting for us to use going for, regardless happens, yeah he's a good candidate and I it was great to see him. I also think there is some truth in the fact that you can use the same lines on a bigger stage and it just sounds bigger and better when you have like seven thousand people, or whatever was cheering for you, as other biden sounded grey At this event, the line about doktor are not living in. pennsylvania any longer than Biden. Didn't Biden moved when he was ten was like funny ineffective and a good head. Obama was great, so I was. I was excited to see like a big about with a lot of energy at the end of the campaign, one of buttons vessels
and the campaign amyloid. It was great on the gesture pierrot thing yet we have talked a lot about john firemen because been such an exciting can it just appear has been running a fantastic race. You're right he's had an opponent who is extreme has not like spent any money until fission ads, it's sort of one of the few republicans that's been kind of sort of abandoned by the national party, because he said he was going to do forty days of prayer, yeah yeah he'd like confederate cosplay and everything he's not he's not a great candidate, but I would say, like you heard, that riff from shapiro
except we just played, there was another one where he also said like. If you don't look like doug mastery ano, if you don't vote like him, if you don't read the books, he reads: he doesn't respect you hit your not for him, and it just gives a great. We talk a lot about how to make democracy real and tangible for people and how a political identity has become so powerful as an indicator in this country of what you do, and that was a way to sort of use identity, but also do it broadly right now. So there is a wide swath of people that Josh shapiro is is trying to appeal to their by saying, like look, I'm the one. The Democrats are the one who are tolerant of every kind of person here and dug. Mass rihanna is the one who just wants people exactly like him, and it's I am cause like I talked to Josh beer a couple of weeks ago when we were in. I guess that was the philly shell and he used all those lines in conversation. You know he has all those riffs in conversation and it's a good example of just a politician. Who's just been working it on the stump and kind of
grinding it out and figure out what works, because I saw you know. I saw him. do those lines, and I saw them really really work, unlike just sort of philadelphia, are kind of progressive audience but clearly like I think he has been kind of there. You know smartly kind of really honing this message quietly for the last six months and he's just so disciplined. Even we taught me and talked to him. Will you just see that he is just a incredibly different politician I talked to him on pod. Save america couldn't get him off message, couldn't get him off message and were like oh man, that guy couldn't we couldn't get them off the message that was a that was a you know as hard as we pushed
As he went into far when I would be in the office and obama would walk up to me, he'd be like we worship, an awesome, god in the blue states might be like bright, but room for cream or you take him and he was like hey out of many one again tommy. I could just one night my grandmother to obama's point that he made us on the pod. Save america interview were that which got a lot of traction when he talked about the democratic party, sometimes being a buzzkill. The antithesis of that was josh shapiro message that it We are the party that is isaac, I'm drunk and everyone fetnah that is open to everyone and and dogmas around his party is the buzz care because they only want you think exactly like they'd like that is not a good example of that on the other side of the state, just as I pittsburgh done from spoken rally? Foremast renault in oz, where he of course focused almost in time, we on his own ambitions and petty grievances. Here's a clip. They must think, I'm going to announce for president That's I promise you the very next
very, very, very short period. It you're going to be so happy. trumpet seventy one randall democracy said ten percent, my pants seven are much better than I thought makes you can go to clean up the river I saw so much coverage of like just sort of giddy it sort of rock hard journalists saying he call them the sanctimony as he called them. The sanctimonious and I thought it was like that when I went to watch the clip I was like always going to be at a riff, but no he just tested it out through it. In his speech he looked away from the camera while he did, he didn't want to clip of it he's just trying to just sprinkler. Then it's it's it's the difference dream like so many politicians they got. Good line from their speech, writer or someone, and then they deliver. It then look like I like he just sort of yeah yeahs and ours has been trying to fool people into
King he's a moderate. Why do you think he decided to show up with the trump the weekend before the election time of that, yet a choice, Donald trump? Does Donald trump wants credit for any and all victories and he's starting to smell blood in the water, so he's going to show up wherever he wants to show up. To claim. Credit is my guess, but, like I mean as a doctor as not smart, he told the well, that same rally to morrow morning a why you to contact ten people, do it before the steelers game steelers have by this week. The okay amazing, that's outrage, what a scott everybody I heard about that from more people than I did about. The steelers have a bye game, the steelers suck, but they had a bye week. They have a bye week. They couldn't live. If someone would let him know that you you'd think the ivy look at, and I also want to hear the creative and its aid also part of this sort of dynamic that we see in the last couple weeks. Witches republicans are viewing kind of base events that turn up.
Base as worth it, even if they're in some ways alienating to some of the independents like you have these big rallies fur virginity vance, you have turned out there, but then timorous doesn't want the Democrats out there. You have a kind of its is it where it is there for different people. I think what we ve all set. You know if, if republicans of this massive tournament, in the mid term, and if we can match it, we can match it, but their relying on trying to get that whole whole base. The relying on a basin was reggie yet and especially doktor oz, because daughters had took some. It took him I am to consolidate the Republican based longer than a lot of the other pumpkin candidates. Are he probably felt like he needed this in the end, and they are bad? Is probably that like if he ends up winning independent, it's gonna be larger forces that help him when the independents like people just being passed, but the economy, and so whether trumpets there or not, it's not gonna make it up huge deference to him NBC reported from very seriously considered announcing for president at that rally. But advisers convinced him not to, though, if, as you heard, he did say he will very very probably do it and
so we're recording this Monday morning. I just such an oven swan from an axiom report that a bunch of public and think that he possibly trump possibly could announced that he's running today or tonight at the edge eighty events rail. I know I think, to get like he's a tv guy, guys a tv producer he just like the teas and teas and teas. But at this point it's like you know, when you're watching a show that was written for network or for some sort of like a show with commercial. And you're watching netflix and it'll repeat the law. it's like minute of whatever you just watched after that, where the commercial break was supposed to be. That's what I feel like with trump every time. Yeah repeating teasing, teasing not going to
he's gonna. Do it not only why don't? I just think that there's like arm I ve been wondering lost in the like last couple weeks of the mid terms is I dont want can run for president. Like there s, the paperwork he's sending into the effie c is gonna like pass the justice department paperwork in the mail that there are like a he's in a race against time, look at either. I do think that, like, if he's not maybe I'd, be very surprised, you know prove me wrong this. This whole episodes in turn to a fuckin. And banana in seven seconds anyway. But but like I, if you're going to announce you don't as Monday night units and tuesday night when the whole country is watching you seeing good returns come in, he goes to the mic and he does it, but he clearly wants to do it fast, because, if he's and I get indicted? He wants to be indicted for political purposes. Yeah or aid to africa is undoubtedly that he's gone. Either way? There's a case for him. Yeah yeah, like we got to indict him first, I'm like know it. Doesn't I'm not see I'm not going to time for so everyone else knows because we have been getting some questions about that is like nope. He gets indicted, he's still going to run for president It is not yet well. we chastened beacon of jason
Rhonda Santos is chastened. After that I heard some. There are a lot of republicans close run dissenters who are outraged outraged that trump did this. Publicans love, sanctimonious politicians, sanctimonious politicians. What are you talking about? Have you seen my pants sanctimonious as sanctimonious assented criticism? I you know what I know we ve come back and forth a few times. At least I have on like. Could the santas do it could dissent is take from down? It doesn't seem like even gunnar run at this, it tom cotton's out? I love gardens. I liked the tom cotton things he decided to not become president as opposed to the entire country. Being like you have a repellent personality yeah. I don't know me will see, will see whether that was he would have liked. The sanctimonious I was good timing. I wonder if trump saw that tie that video that descent with his aunt his campaign made saying that guy, god created ron santas on the eighth day, which is one of the most sanctimonious things I've ever seen in my entire life A fitting nickname through setting footsteps will run the santa
the other was carrying on the eighth day. Imagine imagine your job is to pave roads and keep the schools funded a new put out a fuckin. Add that says on the, eighth day god created me when I read the guy, and the philosophy is he talking to voters to see disgusting thing- is a weird career. It is a nickname that does draw quite a distinction for the charisma that donald trump has versus the lack of charisma that I feel I still like miss florida. I think you can be sanctimonious with a lot of charisma look at like every bible, thumping preacher on tv on Sunday right I mean I dunno. What we'll we'll see we'll see if the sticks? Alright, we got one last time poles and predictions from pollsters in forecasters over the weekend. The consensus is the republicans, a favour to in the house that the forecasts for the number of seats ranges from the low teens said the forties,
So everyone knows the average loss for the president's party in their first midterm is twenty seven clinton lost. Fifty four obama lost sixty three and trump lost forty, but the generic ballot polling average right now also has republicans ahead by just one point. So who knows? The senate is a real toss up with margin of error, races for democratic incumbents, in arizona, georgia, nevada and new Hampshire, as well as the open senate seat in Pennsylvania. There are also tight governor's races in arizona, in wisconsin, nevada and even new mexico in Oregon. We, of course, don't do predicts nowhere on a damn were not so. Instead, I will ask you guys how you're feeling and what you're watching for an election night, what race is? He gonna be paying close attention to what trends you look forward to some of the big quest and you want answered. I mean I'm emotionally prepared for some losses: who's gonna, throw that out. There that's tends to happen in the first mid term of a president's first term
and so I'm really watching closely pennsylvania. Ah, because I feel like there's a turf: choose your own adventure vibe to the polling coming out of pennsylvania, the Senate race there in georgia, we just got back from nevada. We got to meet some really great candidates. I want all of them to win again: Titus Suzy Lee sa Jacky Rosen. Ah, or even some tater tots at a restaurant, to lay at the airport sell out and out that those are. The third is the races I'm watching also watching to see the high jinx that occur in the days, for the election were so counting mail and votes and getting increasingly anxious about them. Ah, I'm I want to understand. I didn't. We won't know this for a while, but I am most interested in seeing. In detail how abortion and choice played out where it drove engagement, knew where it didn't? You know we ve been talking about this in a couple different places that you start to see that you know we had hoped. I think especially right after
when there was a moment of enthusiasm that it really might lead to kind of a wave of engagement and voting for people coming to kind of protect abortion rights, and my concern is in places where, like california, where we can put prop won through and protect abortion right in the states, did not have his big of an impact on other national races in a lot of pay as you see kind of signalling, from republican politicians to let their voters, let voters know that they are not as big of a threat to abortion rights as national Publicans are like. Will that have an impact or people voting This is our values thing as a practical per, action in where they live thing or some combination. So that's like the. I want understand how that plays out because specially, if republicans take the house,
and or the senate, we will have national publicans pushing for a nationwide advantage when understand how important it's the only that's going to be for people in the other piece of it. Is you see these polls? They are or have not been great but like I want to, and I'm I'm curious how Genji turns out This mid term today over reformed a underperformed. They hit will we expected. That is a thing that I most interested and I so you have all the the forecasters in the polls of it that there is also a political scientists. Do these predictions and they do it like a year in advance and its based answer of the president's approval, historic trends, the economy and for this man firm with inflation like this and it being president binds first term, they predicts, like you, know forty something seats, the Democrats would lose ray and then lose the senate for sure and
so I am very interested in. I would say also that in the last couple action, basically ever since twenty sixteen twenty six and twenty eight and twenty twenty, I think, sometimes at the end of the race, the narrative in the polls sort of mismatch, the fundamentals and so like an eighteen. We thought I was gonna, be a huge blue wave and it ended up like the Republicans kept the senate in twenty, it suddenly looked, like Biden was like up by eight nine men, and some of these states ended up being super close rates, so the standard of like where the baseline for this raises democrats lose up to forty seats and probably the senate. If we beat that it's gonna be interesting to see how much candidate quality really matters
because we have talked all through this election season that we have now made some really fantastic democratic canada, especially watching fishermen in pennsylvania, warnock in Georgia. We all love katy porter here in california, right in southern california and dumb, and they have nominated some truly terrible candidates, especially in the senate, and the question is how much just can't equality matter or is this just gonna depend on the national environment and fort larger forces. New Hampshire is a big example of that too John baltic is a certified lunatic appear that republican running up there and and by the way I mean it's, not just the republics of nominated terrible people in the senate. They ve nominated apsley, abysmal candidates in the house, and you even have Mitch Mcconnell when he was ass. Wise kept mccarthy seeming to be do better in the polls than you are, and he said well, because the canada quality the Senate matters? What he was saying is: oh chemical, he's running a bunch of
fuckin, morons, dopes and goons, but nobody knows who's running for the house. They vote more like buy the ticket like matters or not, but because forget about the house, the senate, the future of the democracy that the pollsters are the ones on the hot seat. Tuesday night. You know what I mean the nate's on the hot seat. Harrington were watching you g elliot guy the children, and I ended up yell with one eye or that I have. I think that base your father. I think I think, all the knights, I think, there's it. I think, there's what ten needs at this and right, even whatever numbered maids. Basically it ebb and flow yesterday, but I think that all needs sheriff you should have like a long board and the edge of the board should be hanging over a pool and you should be standing on the board and they should have take a step further and further out. bored as the night moves along and whoever's model is better gets to walk back off, but otherwise you just jump off. Yours, I'm sorry! Are you a pirate? Are they walking the plank? It's a pool, I'm not trying to kill anybody. Was the pool solves the refreshing dip yeah, it's just a kind of dunk tanks,
patient. I wasn't more innocent on his own good fastens fund. Whilst there is in the polls if they are wrong again in the same way, they were wrong. In twenty eight ten and twenty twenty, like is there an average ago. They were pretty right into a twenty year in two thousand and eighteen. Yet they were pretty accurate and twenty eighteen, except in certain places where they were very wrong again and twenty and had been wrong this into its non response by his with non college, educated voters. If we have that problem again, it I'm too fuckin were sold. I do what he wanted to do. John will just admit that that's the problem, because every time after the election, a bunch of you'll, hear from a like air. Well, it's just sometimes the directions that the polling errors in the other direction like has been the other direction. while yeah. I just don't know what I want and they will say well. This sort like like like it is,
it's like each time they should be correcting for that and the next time it should work. I'm also wondering like does the twenty eighteen anti trump coalition show up right in a midterm? It was a record turnout in two thousand and eighteen and people who turned out people turned out in the mid term that usually just turnout in presidential elections. On the democratic side will those folks still show up? Will the trump voters from sixteen and twenty who often don't vote in midterms, show up and then make it another extremely high turnout, election I'll be saying, we'd be looking at how many election deniers when ah very interested in this one? Will I'd also take some time to figure out like how do democrats do with working class voters, especially working class, latino voters and black man, who we've seen some ah some losses with recent elections and then
do we have trouble in blue places like oregon new york. The mayor's race here in los angeles, which I know is why do Democrats yeah? They were in big trouble. I mean the the the mayor's race here in los angeles, speaks to the broader problem that we're all just entered too and don't talk about anymore, which is the utterly broken campaign finance process that we have. That leads to georgia, senate race? I think costing two hundred and fifty million dollars all in a quarter of a million dollars, quarter of a billion dollars, and it's just going to go to a very likely to go to IRAN or maybe god, it's going to run up and keep getting more emails. It's like like hygiene. I fail I'm holding a dachshund off the edge of a cliff and donate seven dollars and fifty cents. Now guys, I got to admit something really embarrassing. I I saw an email in my my gmail the other day from Adam schiff, and it was like hey hope, you're. Well, I got caught in the trick or treaters you know have been fine and I was like oh cool, Adam schiff emailed me fundraising, and you know that
jennifer lopez in indiana right, even though she did send an old picture of her fired. Actually would wouldn't usually when people text you they send a picture of themselves in the text and they don't have they don't ask for your password of the I folks. It's me chris gathered and I host beautiful anonymous. Every week I talked to one anonymous person on the phone for an hour. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's inspirational. It gets heartbreaking. It gets dark. All of the above. I've talked to somebody found, love in a mental hospital, talked to a woman who is about to turn herself over to federal authorities, a mother waiting on the results of her daughter's cancer diagnosis. So many more look out for who episode beautiful Anonymous every tuesday. This need subscribed to beautiful anonymous on stitched apple pod casts the serious exam app or your favorite podcast up so, let's do some useful for people listening like When? Should people expect to know the results in some of these big races
go to bed wake. I do a day work go to bed and wake up, and then we should know that I have I ever list, big states will know and election night new Hampshire, florida virginia the account of it. very fast will probably know in virginia. There will be some swinging districts that will give us a signal about everything's, going very important were damaged, said, davy instruments, as these are the ones too in romania. So if a lame Luria holds on in virginia to it should be a better night for Democrats than expected. If Abigail span burger loses and virginia seven. It's likely that republicans win over twenty seats if any custar in new Hampshire or jennifer waxen in Virginia lou, on my nerves, republicans are likely to win over thirty seats as all according to yes, but even ass, a man who has seen a notch ongoing slipped in effect grace there and we would end up and now a clap. None of those are the big ones will know an election night wednesday, not until wins
Pennsylvania, georgia, michigan wisconsin. It's likely that not all! some day or even on Wednesday, some of those states can even start counting their male imbalance and absentee ballots because of which publicans passing laws to make it so that albania, republicans, yellow and they one even longer than wednesday nevada bit. There come ballots up until november fifteenth arizona, which is basically a mostly oh and state, and right here in California, In short, our cornea, the mayor's race, the congressional raises here it could be a couple weeks just so everyone knows there going to be some hot takes about what's happening. California, somewhat item from us some from us all of them will try to keep em caller ID legal around and we need to do kind of like a Brooks brothers ryan insurrection gonna thing meet. You at blue ribbon sushi at the grove africa. What kind of intellectual I just remembered, we're just doing a sit in an unrest legit and it's looking like vs winning we're going to be like we were always for recover, so are wonderful,
I'm not I'm not going to the grove. Any more- and that is where we keep her she's ever the great cheesecake factory, finally, whereby the Donnelly america, so to them all right whereabouts whereabouts, to hear from some of the organizers, volunteers and candidates we talked to in nevada over the weekend before we do. We should talk a bit about how it felt on the ground out there. Would you guys think if felt good out there I mean I dunno. We met a lot of really great values. Democracy feel better on the ground when you're not on twitter yelling at nights, I, and we met a lot of really awesome. Volunteers who are you know in campaign offices at nine am on Saturday and sunday can ready to knock doors, and you know for susie lean for dina Titus and the nevada democratic eddie. Yes, it we were talking. You are one activists like she has a full time job. She has two kids and she's organizing to pass the equal rights of eminent nevada and doing endorsements and knock. Doors, and it's like category
What about a lazy else? We are a little. No sin some everywhere, every one so excited its dislike. I know it sounds cheesy say, like all makes you go, feel better to go knock on doors, but you know we left that event sunday morning, with Suzy Lee and all those volunteers were like yeah, like. Obviously the the bigger picture looks pretty bleak right now, but, like these people are there they're? Turning out, they're working hard to get leather, gonna pitched battle with a am hearst sophomore you'll, be cooler Williams or Amor in the package. We stay tuned for that for the battle to debate where everybody can get the last. We should also say by the way he was great. By the way, we've warned you against looking too much into the early vote, but we've kept saying that the exception is nevada and Jon ralston, who the data and that state better than almost any one and has accurately predicted most of the big races over the last decade. So his final predictions last night, where that catherine cortez master, holds on that-
his lack. The democratic governor loses and that Democrats hold two of the three have seats he thinks sensitively doesn't doesn't get out. Would piss me off cause. She was wonderful when he was with the reality of us at the time when the secretary of state eg races, which is good cause, the carpenter, crazy, fuckin election deniers, are set so we'll see ralston, hung around from roused and lipstick gods years, certainly always follow john ass in the nevada, independent he's a grey reporter. I, with that, let's hear more from some of the folks that we met in LAS vegas, says producer martinez were here and campaign headquarters? I've got a big city, and it says days intellection days, three and other signs has trump Putin. Twenty four, shake it out and shake shake shake shake high and your name is Jay. It is my name is jack,
the way. Why did you want to come here and knock on doors? It's been on my to do list canvas and I've been kicking myself to do it for the past three or four months- and I realize today is the this weekend's, the last opportunity- and I woke up at eight fifty five- and its nine thirty one and I'm here, and I just because as an audio medium, I do want people understand that shape is wearing saturday morning, sunglasses indoors, I you're lucky I I wouldn't be doing this interview if I forgot to do that. Pelion really close. What gets you up to a kind of come here? What what issues are like the most important to you personally, abortion, says and women's right to choose this huge issue, but every time I listen to the news and they talk about the debacle stuff, generally, six that that affects everything so that this: is the number one issue my name is margie Feldman and I am the chapter lead of nevada. Jewish stems I'm
for so many reasons today, and it gives me a lot of it. to not be afraid, but actually go, there and talk to people and then find. Most people want want freedoms, even if their not willing to say that or put that sign on their frontline. What keeps me in this is, I know what the world can be. I know it. Freedom feels like I know it tomorrow. She feel psych and it's important that we don't give that here, the nevada, victory democratic headquarters, there's a lot of the excited canvasses, we're just so fired up We get your name and what you do here. Yes, my name is hutch. I'm the deputy geo tv director here in about a democratic victory. That's my tied over. I run the high school programme, os I mean, can you tell us a little more about the high school program and how it came to be yeah, so I mean really. We just knew that going out into this community specifically was going to make or break this entire election right. So it's really
wanting to do that kind of early investment here and making sure that we had good messengers to do that. Investment and these kids were basically cant. Think of anybody better to do that right. So, Ninety percent of our is bilingual everybody's from this neighborhood specifically and everybody. You know a lot of time they might and the door where they know their aunt. They mom something like that that lives in that neighbourhood. So we knew What can we really important, and so we started investing in its programme all the way back in July. In our first shift, you only have like twenty kids at an hour. Unlike forty every three hours I mean it is the selections way too important to set out right? I mean republicans rather solution inflation. Things like that are to take your grandma's health insurance and make it harder for women to buy gettin to get healthcare really right. So they're, not us. As part of the hazards solutions. We are right. Look we gotta, be the not in this room. We gotta fight against. You know, rising healthcare costs. We gotta make sure we're bringing good jobs here and in about a- and I know that these candidates are not in these kids are just the best messenger we could ever. Possibly. Ass did where are we at wearin Your sin nevada. We are now in a strip mall parking lot. Waiting for a
chair to take us to a diner to take us to a diner thanks, a bunch hi, I'm john. What's your name sander and you're here, a knock on some doors. I'm here today to knock on some doors. I actually going to hammer so I thought you would not be pleased some two bit some too college massachusetts. Yes, I came up for them. and to to knock on or to get some words. I can say back in math. two sets where we know what's going to happen, so I wanted to come out and help where you are you sophomore. Look at this look, oh look Look how young sophomores are now Look at our young. They become sucks because some, someone massachusetts that only the worse people go to. say the same about Williams, This interview over eyes or in the car we are heading. from wearing that. You said we're yes, where these
I love a hand on the east side, las vegas to the two p m event with congresswoman Titus, a lot of tomato paste. As far as personal shots novel new over recent weeks, He guys doing the everyone here understands the stakes in this election. Everyone here understands that that that choice is at stake, that protecting medicare and social security is at stake, that having people that will actually fight to lower costs for people vs fighting for the richest. Biggest corporation in this country is at stake. Everyone here understand: that's what's at stake, you know we we hosted the show pod save america week. We started this media company cause. We frustrated you're frustrated because we felt like the big outlets, dont really tell people the stakes they treat it like a game, and on top of that we have all this noise and social media that confuses and can
and and spreads misinformation, and then, on top of that we have fox news. all of its satellites that are drowning us in misleading and and deceptive information to try to scare people divide people drive people to focus on on on our worst instincts, rather then our best and we have tens of millions. Hundreds of millions of dollars of dark money dropping on top of us every single day and so whose job is it to tell people? What really it's because we know what they understood, they really got what what? What's on the ballot that we would wish to see demand action that people would understand the stakes between guns, fifty and deregulation that so, who is going to do that? Work? Well, Can it be us in the home stretch of this election, knocking on doors you won't do. It is a lot of people trying to hurt not help, but if we go door to door and have the most effective actions that anyone can have, which is face to face insurrections or or or person to person interactions, and we can do that.
If you're here in nevada, if you can do that across the country, we will win. So thank you all for coming out to do that. Work to close that gap is everybody here gets it now. It's our job to make sure our friends and our family and our neighbors get it. So. Thank you so much My name is Van EDA starks, now live Henderson nevada, and I would like to say this if you dont want to find yourself behind the eight ball in january, and you don't want to see your social security benefits, shot your health care chopped your right to choose, ladys your right to choose chopped. If you don't want to see your taxes go up and tat, one percent get their big giant. Could again, let's not go backwards. Let's move forward, you know I'd, like
to see nevada move forward, and so that's, why vote a blue? Take it all the way down, and I'm going to continue to do that less than that muslims mark and I'm out today with the idea of action. The advocacy partner, the environmental defense fund and the thing about living in vegas is, I think, we're living. Well, the desert, and we're acutely aware that our water supply is finite. if we don't do, pray, drastic things to deal with that this whole swathes of the kind maybe uninhabitable and twenty years and some of our elected leaders here vegas have made tremendous steps and we gotta go. electing leaders who are going to keep pushing than fighting that an annual spring live changes. Here with congressmen, Dena Titus the home stretch has gone out. There has a feel for the vibes half a lesson and that's why we're working so hard to get all the voters out that we need,
ms malian summers come into the polls that will happen on cheesy, of course, but I'm feelin more optimistic, because we got some people on the ground, we got a good game, go on everybody in their work, and now I think it's gonna pull through One thing you'd want to say to people who are listening, review either live in nevada or have family and friends out there. What would you say to them monday, night I'd say it's critical to turn out, because the issues are so clear if the differences are so stark between what we stand for and what they stand for. If you want to move forward, come out and vote for us, if you want to slide back, the good old days it weren't that damn good for a lot of people there, your candidates I got you have today. Let me tell you how I did my limit on huge yeah. That's right, to get a cash advance, and I was talking to the cashier, the casino.
And she saw my hat and she said. Oh, you think I should vote on tuesday, I'm pretty busy on tuesday. Just like I always vote for the democrats- and I said, have you seen some of these people that dina Titus duffy gets the catherine cortez master was up against was like yeah they're, pretty nuts? Aren't that good, especially make some time to vote. So I just want you to know that, because I lost so much so quickly that I forgot you about the dark, so to the bathroom for one minute and I come out in my coworkers, my partners, my co host best friends- are doing a pop up. conference that you're sorry, the congresswoman showed up and she's like. Aren't you supposed to be three of you isn't called tommy, Tommy, came back and then took pictures of us because he thinks it's funny when he sees us pretending to be they call it. and we find it extremely embarrassing, but nonetheless look. I think we did a great job.
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back on course valley. I was like an overview is by you evaluate, have ten back on and I agreed but on the lighter side of things, I guess hypothetically by Maybe in the light of the burning pyres than is twitter isla mosque is officially pause. The roll out of his new twitter blue, which of course, Immensely there's going be seven. Ninety nine for monthly subscription to get a check, I was initially scheduled to start today. They kind of soft luncheon over the weekend in a really go well, but fortunately the new about, The nation will reportedly go live. Number ninth providing twitter, successful it allegedly higher back. Allow the people they fired on fairly they're doing that things are going great over there and I just wanted Above all, we play the game. Did you see his tweet too, like who either exist vote for it yeah and I read it for a case. I have your if you're not on twitter, he treated shared power, curbs the worst excesses of both party. Therefore, I recommend voting for a publican congress, given that the presidency is democratic, that might be a crazy sixty. These ever said, oh
No at this point he just doesn't realize, he's just allowing for ages the low information voters who thinks he's a high information about her, and I do think love it should be put on trial at the hague forever. I'd lowly ever say ingenious, which has come up and I think you should be put to task. I'm sorry that I read my card rise itself. I reject the liberal dogma that says that you must hate everyone. Absolutely if you describe them politically, the guided start Iraq company, whether he's smart. So I love him. I think it is because of the wetlands he's gonna, come this good at building rockets and electric cars and is bad politics in communication. You can be a genius asshole. Yes, that's what we're talking about. I I I don't like him. I don't think he's still that you love him. You love, I love him. Your card is, you drive your card own, that I do love it already paper, twitter, blue, actual, that's that's a good site! Where way censure did you
well, yeah, obviously love. It is valid on this very podcast not to pay you to write because he doesn't want to be doubted: a creamy new england, clam chowder or a delicious at your fate by a morally upright stranger, as if it was van gogh yeah. I think I can talk one of you into shelling out your hard earned cash if you were actually getting something of value. So I'm just gonna give you a couple of scenarios. I I this was crowd sourced from the everyone here crooked. So I would say these fall into political mystic features and then category I would ve sky was simply horny, so I've been trying to pick from each of you guys can react first. Why will you tell me which way they get lands? So twitter blue is okay, it is seven ninety nine a month, but if you get it, you do get Matt iglesias tweets a whole hour earlier. Ou have an automatic racist tweet oh! No! I don't! I don't think that's where they mean yeah. I mean I worked a month, every two subsec all the time. So why do?
yes, oh yeah, oh wow, oh we gotta. We gotta, we gotta slow, boring head over here. Okay, great, I think yours make the right choices. Oh so here's another! I want you to tell me if this is enough: twitter, blue! Yes, it is seven ninety nine a month, but you get a feature that turns off all of course. So you could just enjoy the jokes pay one hundred dollars. Oh, it was just a switch if there was like an up a politics on politics like sports, on sports off jokes, I would pay for that in a heartbeat. But who is going to be the a good jokester? and I don't want any of you. I don't know these lame political reporting of his aid. There's came up with a good joke or the people who are like. Oh I'm, gonna, be the first one to make this joke. Even that was made. You know by ten thousand other people, even it's I was say that arguments I feel like some of the people. There are political, but occasionally they'll have a beggar
that's the thing about it is that you know you either either die funny or you live long enough to become this right now or for people in the back or the do you carry a sink to your? job attitude characterising I'm innocent depraves. Wanting that like putting this right here that you know twitter at its best and worst its everybody having the one conversation you on buying twitter has made twitter as bad a place to be, as its ever been. There is way too little outside of that and it just like. Used to be for so many years like there is just a kind of steady hum of weird twitter being funny and strange and an interesting and like the little kind of paths you could go down and find these like strange little pockets, a really interesting funny people and all those people lost their minds and no new people came to replace them. Some of the best minds of our generation is the last onto their errors or academic. Mostly past generations, better
is a of a lesson. Those are kind of people that you I thought, as as brilliant mines that were absolutely rotted out by the internet just completely destroyed by its. I really wish. If twitter is going to survive, It's not going to be because elon is tweeting. Weird political things are kind of trolling fucking, kathy griffin. The whole conversation of it to twitter used to be conversation about donald trump for awhile, which is like was not great, but it was at least somewhat understandable because he was president did states and held water power now. The whole thing is a fucking conversation about elon musk. Sucks, it's not very boring. Keep that in mind. I have one of the horny ones, good, good good. So yes, twitter, blue. You pay for it. It's seven, ninety nine a month, but will you do you get to experience the the chaotic energy around that one beto tweet that one time and you can do whatever you want? You get to like have it sort of a black mirror type of situation where, like at any point in time, you get to feel the chaos we all felt back in two thousand and eighteen, which I do think was a demarcating.
in terms of political hardiness, on twitter, we never recovered, which is this the oau and you and I will show you had grown people- might not have heard this. Let me I could reset it for memory, but if you have kids in the car, I know we swear to much. This is your warning to really turned your alone in the car pull the real into on coming traffic? I usually pull over and enjoy your thought that he was going to go there yeah. Sorry, I only put the worst part of it in my notes here here we go. Thank you know your meme dot com. Here we go so the tweet, I'm not to name the person, because we've all been here. We've thought this about well done. Who did on twitter to think you're so rightly thing a weird thought. Instead, this woman said no is by day she's, my o, o o haider. I believe it is. I you, the candidates, o heyday, I have a naughty, as candidates are like the guy who thinks good sex is pumping away while you're making a grocery list in your head, wondering when he'll be done.
a workers like the guy who's. All Sweden already been hold you down and makes you come until your calves, cramp I remember that I was like we. pass the reuben. This is like and- and I think that's where I I mean you know- maybe it's my algorithm, but I feel like this weekend was just like. Oh, it is no holds bar ever would say whatever they want, but ugly and personally swore pain. Seven, ninety nine a month for that too, feel by revealing the island warrior calves to cramp, ok, I gotta say, moreover, that asked Mary, I'm saying that every month you pay and that tweet or whatever it could be a tweet of similar insanity, Israel white from your head black, near silent at once a month. You get to experience it all over again and it's new to you and yeah I'll, do it chuck or that's a good laugh. Ninety five bucks a year for more valuable checkmark for sure, and I be able to have a couple more.
Yeah. We actually have dozens. I've tried to figure out which ones are most applicable, but every time a twitter blue is seven. Ninety nine a month but everytime you retweet a politician. You are texted or email, one last time from their campaign, where they're begging and screaming at you to give them three dollars. I don't want one last time. I would pay for it if I could just shut that year. In yesterday I had a party for unsubscribe yeah, yeah eiger them for sure. Just out of two left here. I'm going to go on. Twitter blue is seven eighty eight per month, but all internet before twenty twenty is automatically needed. You never yet again at, and I also say here at twenty twenty one yeah, let's I'm adding it to the algorithms twenty twenty one cause, there's some bad ones in there, because I feel like that's. I get that you know when we came up in the internet. That was just it was so much of that and I still occasionally
It's like we're not doing that. It's just an old and not as a lot about operators or dog. Oh yeah, I'm out. I also don't ever see that we're dhabi I've utter shade people out harry potter if I see that little gross manson or whatever it is calculated as a man, one or the other ones. You weren't a yearly, never make me say this again, just the phrases of super this you this you bought or for the people on the ak all the cliches yeah I dunno, who knew that haha I dunno needs to hear this is sure you do you just tweeted it exactly news here. It's actually nobody seeing us yeah! That's the problem! Yeah I'd love to eradicate all of that language. Yep, I'm in great normalize x, now the normalizing yeah. Finally, I'm you do get the url for freelance secret alter count. Eddie does post frequent nudes I have an idea, however, it's actually very humanizing and makes you like him more, which you feel more complicated about no apparent.
I was a month you are nudes anna had to like him more at the end, It was just the sort of the natural process. You see him as a part of himself, but he didn't expect to ever see or like. I guess you are a person and you have whatever weird thing you have, but don't we all We all know what I would favour I like to pay. Seventy I met a man to not be reminded that every person on the other end of a twitter account is a person whether to continue We have now made answer, is ever frequent and it's not a guests or botz yeah through a carrying on toward una I gotta tell transaction kindly late. Aren't you back around the way we have three one more yeah, definitely like that that was a modest one hour ago, more and more the crass and scenes come back. Oh yeah, I get it back, paying for that on pay. Any of the questions about your pay and in that that money is gone. Right pocketing evidently war that that will bring to so many people. You know they ve been of little them. How many texts well send about the crass instinct tweets? They ve been a little bit. You served by the occupied demographics April that are like
guy. You know, don junior is a piece of shit with a bad here. Cargan he just insulted jaw. Shapiro retreating me don juniors, a piece of shit, that's better than what they do good. And then just a general I dislike is the I just want to ask is certainly is twitter. Important link is what is happening to it, important cause. I feel like it's like as people who are on it. It's like, oh no, but if you're not on it, it's sort of like, like you said like going it like in person to to canvas and like do things that is, much more important and that we already have this myopic platform, that's being destabilize like what is sort of the how we look at it sort of like from sixty thousand feet. Dealers have any feelings about that. I would say that it has outsize influence, because every journalist in the world is on it and so much of the media coverage that people based their information
I follow them and make decisions off of is is shaped by twitter, so unfortunately, it has an outsize impact, even though it is does not have as many people as many other. So most other social media platforms so, and I think it's useful to have some kind of a national conversation going. Unfortunately, it has become shitty over the last several years and on his driving it into the ground as fast as you can yeah, I would they, I would say a twitter is important in so far as a group of people who help shape the national conversation view it as a place where people come to shape the national conversation, but there will be hinge point and it could be quito know when it will be, could be soon based on how quickly you, on a sort of his rating place, that all of a sudden, if it's just journalist who don't feel like they are getting a sense of what. Though the left, the pundits, are saying, and what the what the the right pundits are saying. It doesn't feel like that kind of like a like bleeding edge of a national political conversation where people come to kind of hear from, like you know, the one thousand people who shaped the political debate
If that doesn't feel like what it is, I think all of a sudden, it'll it'll stop being useful, and then it won't be important to be there and that everyone will have to go somewhere else cause. We do want that space. That space is valuable. It just doesn't have to be twitter yeah. It was never as important as some people thought it was especially the twitter founders who thought they were responsible for the arab spring and stuff like eyes rolled so far. back into my head that I nearly died. I think its importance was waning. Long before you on must came around because there's other platforms where you can reach way more people instead of talking to a chat room full of losers. But again, if you broad brac, bright cries and seeing you could get content like, while many of you are likely yelling go patriots or go rams, I'm yelling go robber, mahler and the rule of law as gold and unpaid, and have any that way. I guess I'll see odd, tik tok. She answered, I think our plague great game housekeeper thanks for joining plus. If America, thanks to everyone, we talked to a nevada, goes out their knocking on doors, be one of those people and these final hours before the election and our
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