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donate one billion dollars to help Europe grapple with this humanitarian crisis, but it was Biden's nine ad libbed words at the very end of an otherwise powerful address that got the most attention here. They are, for God's sake, This man cannot remain in power. The White House immediately walked back the comment saying the president wasn't calling for regime change in Russia and Biden himself addressed the issue at a briefing on Monday afternoon. I want to make clear. I wasn't then, nor am I now or tickly policy change. Fresh, more outrage that I feel- and I make no apologies- personal feelings picture. Smart person Tommy me. What was your reaction to this speech and specifically to the Adlib at the end when a divide this in half? Okay- let's start with the speech I watch, the speech live ere it. I thought it was one of the best speeches I've seen by give us resident here. You can tell, He really cares about these issues been thinking about these issues for a very long time. He, you know the fact he was in Warsaw

thanks think sent a good message of solidarity and unity with NATO. You know the the I the gravity- I think in a moment like that, I mean that was at there there is literally a splits green on CNN of LIVE Eve, getting bombed, YO and our before. So the magnitude was clear, I thought he did a good job telling the bigger story about the struggle between autocracy and democracy talked about universal rights like freedom of speech and rule of law. He talked about meeting these kids that little kids little children who'd recently become refugees because of the invasion is very moving as powerful and as liked a little dig at Putin when he called them, not a student of history. You know the best insults are just really like sly and cutting like that. sick burn, yeah Putin, Putin, sort of fancies himself, a student of history. Well, a history and he likes to contort history to fit his own means. It was very. It was nicely undercutting

it's worth noting the Ukrainians, weren't thrilled the speech- they don't want words, they want a no fly zone, they want more weapons, etc. The Adlib, I think we have to be honest, that in the pantheon of ad libs or gaffes or whatever you wanna call it and riffing about regime change it's up there. It's not ideal. I prefer his gaffes when he becomes in favor of gay marriage. That was a really good gap. Yeah. I like that when he, when he speaks from the heart and then has the kind of deal with the consequence, that was a great guy Well, I think this is a kind of the same thing. I think morally he's thinking to himself this man is a tyrant, he's bombing civilians. He can't stay in power, but you can't just riff on that stuff.

If they clarified the comments immediately. The actions to date, I think, have shown that Biden has actually been incredibly cautious about not escalating the conflict. Putin has been accusing the: U S and Obama and Biden in the west of trying to overthrow him for decades. We shouldn't let him manipulate these nine words to justify his actions, but this is some high stakes stuff and to say the least. It sucks that this is what we're talking about. This has been the press, focus like seventy two hours later, they're still kind of having to clean it up. What did you think of it? I think that's true. I think obviously, and he can say that he was expressing his moral outrage. The words were very clear. That is not how you would signal a policy change of that magnitude, so obviously he wasn't slip it in as an ad lib. At the end of a speech, of course not- and I think what was rushing to me just in watching the coverage even carrying over all the way to today is- should he have

I winged it after a while, after a very kind of well thought out and well received speech. Obviously not it was corrected immediately because this team has been just so excellent on the message around this issue. Everyone knew why they walked Everyone knew why he said it. Everyone knew what was going on here and then there's this effort for kind of two or three days too. Can I keep it going the questions being like? Well, what if Putin uses this? Is it excuse frustration while that question kind of answered itself he'd be using it as an excuse for escalation in theirs is little aspect of it where it's a kind of this earth, I think, on the mainstream, pressed a kind of have a normal gaff and have a normal ability to deal with it. It's like almost like a sexual desperation. Until I, till I get back or we'll just like this. Urge, like I'll, keep going with the wrong words and now we're going to correct you. You know they do, but you never cleaned up. The initial statement in their analysis,

because it's the only way to make it have any real significance. This morning, Johnny you riff on these things. In the in most speeches, I was thinking a lot about the speech writers, of course, as I thought they said that no I you told me it was one of the best speech of his presidency. You thought I'd said the buyers high high for me when I finally watch it, and then I watched it and I I agree like he was strong, powerful, energetic like it was a really well written speech. He delivered it really. Well, obviously, until the end and look you can tell he made that comment. He had just visited those ukrainian refugees. He was pissed, he was outrage, it's all understandable. I also think he gets credit for walking an incredibly difficult tightrope during this war. So far, where he's at to condemn Putin, Putin said,

in and support Ukraine, without saying or doing anything that would escalate the conflict and potentially lead to nuclear war. Like that's, that's what you're playing with it as far as a get us is hard rather Gallia. So obviously, you know I'm sure he wishes he had done that. But like I also notice, like I saw an argument from some of the more hawkish types right after the speech that Biden's comment was good and that the White House shouldn't have walked it back. They should have just let it stand. What do you think about that? I mean like we don't have. The United States does not have the capacity. Thirty to push Putin up not going to invade militarily, we can't force the russian people or some like political rival to the extent they even exist

two to topple him, nor should we, if we had that capacity, which we tried that in the past doesn't and very well the sanctions that Biden has in place are devastating and you could argue that their sort of regime change like sanctions, but the deal there is. If you pull your troops out, Lattimer Putin, the sanctions come off. Otherwise, what's the incentive to ever leave, so my response to those hawks is no. We shouldn't say things that Biden doesn't believer. That is not the policy, the United States, but also that the lesson of the Obama administration was give yourself. Some flexibility saying Assad must go, did not make him leave it just kind of. Locked us in for a long time, and now, a decade later, you got like the Jordanians in the. U a e kind of welcoming them back into the fold and having these conversations like it's righteous sounding, it feels good to say, Putin must leave. He cannot

the leader, but we don't wanna, make this about America. We want. You know the Russians to be worried about their brothers and sisters in Ukraine and the impact on them and not on a kind of cold war. Redux Putin. You know nationalistic fervor framework. I I think that benefits him. If it's the US vs Russia, vs Russia, vs Ukraine, yeah, you don't want him being able to use that statement as propaganda for the russian people and saying see. I was right there. West is trying to do why Russia is not about Ukrainian, it's also just to like moral clarity feels good, and I understand that and there I saw people making arguments that oh people criticized Reagan for what he said during the cold war, calling them an evil empire. Well, when the We know about the cold war that ended without a nuclear holocaust, and that makes the moral clarity, less worrisome in hindsight right exactly things that that escalate, that that raise tensions when those tensions didn't raise

in calamity are easier in the past and in the future. It is also a thing that bomb I tried to do in speeches like this would be to kind of reflect the reality that in the cold war, yes, it was a struggle, vs democracy versus these autocrats, but at the same time, that didn't mean that every action we took was righteous with the? U s it a lot of shitty things in an effort to fight back communism, including toppling governments supporting right wing death squads, all kinds of like really truly heinous things, and I think nodding to those mistakes in that history gives you more credibility to corporate entity, but our politics doesn't let you do that. We look. There are sometimes moments or someone is speaking. Someone is speaking and even It may be wrong. You have to take action to come up on stage a kind of make person stop speaking right, even if people will tell you that my or I realized tat I didn t come in, I didn't see wealth and nearly ass. It is

This is like everyone knew what he met right, whereas, like that's it he's like Vladimir Putin, is a murderous dictator with nuclear weapons who can't remain in power, but because he's a murderous dictator with nuclear weapons. It's too risky to try to remove him from part from upper yeah. That's what he met her But it's not you can't. Just you can't just admit yeah, then you can get Lindsey Graham sent those tweets off and it's like yeah, I mean sure. The last time we were doing like a a word count. Controversy was the sixteen words in Bush's state of the union where he beat the drums to go to war in Iraq, but look how that turned out. So that's another alternative path, but some hawks want that. I would recommend we avoid right so job his in the two twenty and twenty and potentially twenty twenty four elections had his own astute take on Putin's invasion of Ukraine during a relatively poorly attended rally in Georgia on Saturday. This is the state here some speech highlights from the most popular Republican in the country. Donald Trump Saakashvili,

as we have put smart, is put was born and I actually thought he was going to be negotiating. I said: that's it. I, a way to negotiate put two hundred thousand soldiers on the border should have never happened the ocean will rise one hundredth of one percent over the next three hundred fucking years. I remember his sleepy eyes, Chuck DA. Did you ever hear of him? He was a sleepy sort of Joe Biden should recuse himself from anything having to do with Ukraine, because they've gotten so much money from because energy is so expensive today Yeah gallons, you take a look at your forget about it. The pump you take a look at a barrel now it'll be two dollars. It could

if people saying it's going to go up to, think of this people are saying: take a look at a gallon. Forget about it a pump a barrel, a pump, a gallon two dollars more a lot more. Have that guy fuckin draw a clock. I mean yeah? Are we surprised you love it with the fucking word yeah? What is going on, and I look that made no news. No Here's my take, there's no way Hillary can lose. This thing I think, I'm in a time warp. Listening to that he sounds. He now sounds more like the impression of him on SNL who's this who's, the, as set out that he doesn't have a name it they haven't, even when it was a given that really get sleepy son of a bitch? What a weird isolated, hey man Listen, I don't know if you pay much attention but but like

cast news, isn't what it once was. People are watching. The Sunday shows they're, not keeping up like you. Are you and Nigger and Muslims, and a few of the George reporters are covered, the railways, that it was the smallest crowd they ve ever seen for Trump and that the people were why, king out halfway through his remarks, you guys think he needs the punch up his material what's going on there. I think, he's off his game. I think love his game, that of practice stakes are kind right now he's looking around he's. Looking at this, You no part of it, though, is not really find from self right now he's doing this rather feeble and I did I move on hard is not as it does a loan of John in that I dont want to do wish casting, because obviously the guest of poles really well. But I've watched a couple these rallies lately in it they have felt low energy it. Maybe it's just a time when we're not focus on these things, but this is a county. I think I read that Trump one. Eighty, nine percent of this county services like blood red Magua country

and it just felt tired, it just felt redundant, I mean the the punch ups. Were there right, it was the F bomb talking about climate change that got their attention. Is that how you reach a bunch of right wing conservatives? I don't know swearing in front of their families and children? Probably not they don't care. Whether jokey was making its new, as he keeps talking about Russia's nuclear weapons by saying Putin is saying the n word, which is really weird, because the joke is that he just let it hang and sort of gets the crowd to think that he's going to sin, it's just really, which is very possible, very uncomfortable, very possible for him in very bad. The the local press was saying what you are saying

whether they were speculating that this slate of people he's endorsed in Georgia as a bunch of duds, and that makes the kind of like grievance Royal rumble a bit of a harder sell. He had David Perdue who's running against Brian Kemp, in the primary for governor is, is down by ten points, got Trump's endorsement, a pretty decided to suddenly go from being like a regular republican conservative to like an extreme right wing. Maga guy who's, like campaigning with Marjorie Taylor, Green and now he's got Trump's. Endorsement has got a bunch of ads that there already ten points behind Brian Kemp, so Trump's endorsements aren't going. Whether I feel the same way as you tell me like. I don't want to wish cashier, because my prediction, even though we're out of the prediction business like Donald Trump or you vote before- is that I think Donald Trump is like a lock for the nomination. If he wants it and you just jinxed him, I will say in the last going to happen, but I will say in the last couple of weeks it's felt like

wants to win Virginia right. It felt like he'd, lose it a little STI Tim Kaine is gonna lock this thing up yeah I was there one little bit and I do think part of it too is like there's. We feel it was during the Katana G Brown Jackson hearings. It has been true since the Ukraine crisis started. Then I like organized around us us even like a narrow set of grievance issues. Right now, like they had schools going into the Virginia election. The retailer greens getting out there and being like we gotta, keep the Buddha judge out of the ladies room, like do you understand how gay works a dump about? We don't want That's at least what are you Talkin about there are eight eddies any longer, but by a little exceeded city are easy. I've got triggers, there is calling it city are. I gotta look like. I know that that fundamental Hersel Walker scares me to death is a candidate he's fame.

As he speaks, super religious language changes and how good he is. He is like a bad ass. I I that guy worries me one other dude. Does it the guy who took his jacket off, and he said he had Donald Trump armor on his back and he showed Trump, some like weird patch. She put it on the back of his shirt. I don't know, you're not going well talked about MO, Brooks, I think you and Yan in Alabama how he got interest or I'd still think we got to see Trump in a in a republican primary. You know, and and watch all these people who want to run against him to see if they actually can throw a punch if they can take a punch that we're not going to know anything he that he we're not going to know Brian Kemp, isn't the villain trump needs. He needs a trump just put out a statement today by the way Not about the Oscars, not about Ukraine, not about any of the issues we discussed he's confirming that he did in fact get a hole in one while golfing with Ernie Els the other day. That's cool! Well

that palm another. On the from I tried out loyal house look. Obviously, we ve given by president, come on Harris Shit for and of hurting her chances of keeping the White House because she helped get Donald Trump. twitter. Those, however, however environed into a slight window, goodness losing thank goodness and had any fuckin slap takes on twitter from this guy right If only we'd got of United everyone, though he was the one thing uniting so many people in the country. Now, where look at us never in the fridge, close your eyes close your eyes, imagine it was Elon musk slapping Jeff Bass No now! Well! You know you didn't now owned up as well. We said we wouldn't do this are not doing it. I want to introduce a nonsense. I'm writing no content trump and his band of and are still under investigation for their attempt to overturn the last election. On Monday, a federal judge ruled in favour of the January six committee. By ordering there if more than one hundred emails from Trump adviser John Eastman saying that quote. This was the judge in his ruling. He said quote based on the.

since the court finds it is more likely than not that the former president committed crimes by trying to obstruct Congress from certifying the election the committee is also looking to interview right wing activists, Ginni Thomas wife of Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas after a report last week that they have twenty nine text, messages that show her. gene in the most annoying ways possible former weight. As chief F mark meadows to overturn the election while floating insane conspiracy theories that had been spread by Cuban on including her belief. Joe Biden in his family will quote be living. Barges off Gitmo motivation with military tribunals for sedition. Does my fate let's take these one by one that was quasar with these men. Yet I want to help me right here. That's what I'm going to start with. So did this judge in California? Did he get to review the one hundred emails that are that will now I turned over to the committee Lewis, one hundred ten or hundred eleven, something like one hundred bullets yeah. This is the most. I think this has been that the headline is that that the president is likely committed crimes, but I think it's just as important that I think he said one hundred

only ten of the one hundred and ten one hundred eleven were protected by privilege and the rest are admissible. So because you can, I are attacked under attorney client privilege, communications that are part of an effort to commit crime or cover up across yet ran to you can't do crimes it the same yeah you, your layer, cake to crimes. gather and then try to hide it in the same way that executive privilege doesn't protect you from doing crimes. There's no there's no crime secret lover gonna fly I mean it's, it's a big deal because I think so there was a question of whether the criminal charge of obstructing Congress will be too difficult for the committee, DR, it is a very whose tried to build what cases ordained about Rawdon about restructuring the hungry right now we got at least one federal judge, saying Trump is probably guilty of it. So who knows what happened again this week? ram before this is going to force all of ultimately fall in mirth garlands lap. Any

the only because they are the Ones Ex Committee can make a referral a criminal or further to the Justice Department. The Donald Trump is guilty of obstructing Congress or the Donald Trump. Or to Congress, but only d o j can decide whether to bring the charges miracle It is a measure twice cut once sort of fellow yeah. is a patient patient patient man is what you told us about Bob. If I can Babo had all wise guy doesn't Arbela dollar Mahler, namely folksy Babo, had all right. at a counter space follies havoc in Babo had gathered and say this. It's like you scene in enough dark night, where they're on the ship and one of them they like to save our ship. We got to blow up the other ship and nobody wants to be the one to press the button. I guess in that movie you not supposed to press the button. No work It's not a good, a trolley. It's a little bit! It's like nobody, like.

I do know what happened with brag in New York. I know what's happening with Garlon in DC, but like this, a crime button that endeavour one seems to be a little afraid to push. I hear them. How big a deal or a Jedi Thomas's tax, I mean she it's alright, you show weighty, ever had right, gonna like smooth over for her in Washington, the cholera conservative activist she's a wacky yet far right conspiracy units, number tat. She is willing to use her access to lobby on behalf of these fringe of use if he hung his possible levels of government dinner, fucked up and she D. You have to be to make mark meadows simple that I can a text chain about overturning our democracy because Mark meadows, who goes full bananas in the text.

well, it says: will the king of kings Jesus fix everything, capitalizing things like he's town stories in the Bible, a whole yeah, it's the it's, the it's the it's the it's the God! It's markets gospel of Mark, but the the the moments where Ginny Thomas is clearly just Haranguing mark meadows, who has to reply and could keep Genie, Thomas Happy because his her husband, because her husband, the Supreme Court justice. We ve all been that we have all been there where you you can't. You want to ignore the crazy outside adviser, but you can't because their important in their friends of the of the candidate, and so you have to talk to them. Only this one is saying: hey also over third markets. It you know where he screwed up, though listen, I used to be very opposed. two reaction emerges in text. You are, then, I recently learned that there is a great way to react without saying anything really end to converse, Are you haha? Yes, maybe exclamation here and there would have been overall. The exclamation point

one where she or one point you texted she's, like hey sorry, to wake you MIKE like what time did that text get sent to mark meadows, sorry to wake you, but we really need to overthrow the government also just so so disconnected from reality. One of my favorite message, is not even the most damning is. She said I just saw a Rudy's press. This is a press conference. Leads from their head and Anne and basically lost the country for ever lost his credibility. Probably the moment he put himself on track to lose, its ability to practise law became a pariah and she's like fucking yeah fucking? Finally, I've been waiting to see that moment. My whole life. She are flowing, it's the it's. The equivalent of she is like the one person who liked the finale of game of thrones she's like that worked for me, especially like the just doesn't make any ants release the cracking, listen to rush marks, dine bungee, no clear that I mean the cheese dame checking the craziest people she's doing her research on Youtube. Never

yeah and like again, she and Clarence pretend they don't talk about politics, but she refers to having a conversation with my best friend who they in in other interviews, refer to each others are best friends. We gotta figure out. Let's talk about him. What to do about Clarence Thomas Democrats in Congress have called on Clarence Thomas to recuse himself from any cases related to the twenty thousand election. Of course, he has already ruled on some, including one where at stake was releasing White House communications related to overturning the election. It was eight to one. He was the only one who voted to keep target a lot of legal scholars and reporters believed that it Jeannie's texts were not in that tranche, but he didn't know whether they were in Ireland alone over your shore. If there, if they weren't or do we think that the area will because their private text with mark meadows they're, not that, though, the what they ruled on was communications between was like official privilege,

Communication ravaged, but we don't write, we don't. We all know it out on the part of it, but we don't, but don't we know that these are part of the trunk mark meadows voluntarily gave over yes, so we don't know daddy's the Genie Tommy Jenny, Thomas Correct gas from our committee has pointed he calls himself some problems by handing over those tax. While he did We did so damn what have you? What have you learned with less than five years to teach you to respect their alliance hand over Fernandez interact. Second, I basically, it's ok, colonized maritime is so first of all, a guy look into the reviews on a second first there's a lot. Like just let's go right to impeaching, just like for I mean well you and whose army is clearly the dumbest take on the internet. Is democrats need to demand that the Impeach Clarence Thomas and that he resign and because absolutely nothing will happen? it's just a performer rash and everyone may going on twitter followers very have a climate of having a fucking shit. These spouse there's ways.

As a German. I liked her. I can't do it, I can't you, the French, but again it's like I write so though, that's let's go through this process. I still don't know exactly precisely precisely what were budgeting for by he was. You know he he knew all about it. He knew the effort to overthrow the election. Whatever. Let's say that happens, the house impeaches him. Ah then, it goes to the Senate that what Dodd declined twice to convict Donald Trump himself, but there can be like oh yeah, Clarence Thomas he's out. I just like I feel like impeachment, is now like the no fly zone of american politics, just a bunch of people advocating for it not really to fully wrap wrapping their heads around the consequences. Like I hated it last couple of times, we don't like Clarence, Thomas Clarence, Thomas, should recuse himself. There should be an investigation into Clarence Thomas either, whether it's part of January six or part of a separate investigation. We should look at conflicts of interest

between Jenny, Thomas and Clarence, Thomas that go beyond just for a pc for the end of democracy, but all of her nefarious dealings. Why not do that and set the expectation around the truth, as opposed to an impeachment which we will succeed in and will get the same amount of information, but just leads us down a path in which we kind of blown. This up said: Anne unrealized Bogle. That's how I feel about it right now. I can be persuaded that's how I feel Renda he should review. A royal is clear: at this point rat Jane mirrored about this and in the new Yorker and she is. She noted that, in a supreme court, justices aren't bound by the judicial code of conduct. That applies to all other federal judges, which mandates that they were cues themselves from participating in any cases in which personal entanglements could cause a fair minded. Member of the public debt, their impartiality, but Supreme Court justices are subject to a federal law that prohibits them from here in cases in which their spouses have quote an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the preceding yeah. That's it that's good! That's

It's obvious. We are also constantly told about how much John Roberts cares about the integrity of the court. So to me this is a bit of an inside game. You create a drumbeat of pressure and coverage and concern in Robert's head and among other conservatives on the court that they go to Clarence Thomas and they say hey buddy. This is bad, it's bad! That did the best friend here. If that's you, that's bad genie's, talking about threats to Justice, Amy Coney Barrett! What information is that based off? Who gave that to her? What is with the gap in correspondence? What is with these? Ah, the reporting that your wife was talking with Caroline Wren and playing peacemaker. For the stopped steel rally, people what happened there like what what is with her use of title case in text messages? Yeah, that's a lot of things! You have to look about her claim that she left the rally early because she got chilly. You know yeah, that's not a good reason to leave an insurrection know it's us the other thing to Clarence Baby. Don't worry! You can recuse yourself. Another judge can recuse himself you're still going to fucking win right. So don't worry, don't worry the crook

the court is corrupt down to its fucking foundation. This you're, being there doesn't even matter John Robert, should force him to reduce them. They like your age, I'm living beyond the pressure very outside has any good come from the Indian piecemeal, although I think I think Biden was asked about this today and was like this is up to both the Supreme Court and and the Justice Department is like. Ok. Well, that's sure, but I do think that the refusal is obvious here, not a lot of avenues to force them to do that. You're right, it's gotta, be into it's gotta, be John Robertson. In his colleague. As I mean the Supreme Court Justice just like you know: Merrick Garland, removing a quill from INC delicately calligraphy in each letter of an indictment, slowly figuring out each perfect, perfect perfect with a word until he's ready to hop a puddle send the impeachment eagle and then soaring over in Washington. The impeach meaningful Clarence This has been a lamp on the shoulder. The marshal of the Supreme Court for certain gather together are when we can.

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this week, thousands of workers at Amazon, warehouses in Bessemer, Alabama and Staten Island New York are holding a vote on whether to form a union for better. Pay and working conditions. A win would mark the first ever successful, organizing effort at Amazon and comes at a time when Starbucks barista as teachers grocery workers profess, There's an even Capitol Hill staffers are organizing across the country here to talk about this new momentum. for the labor movement, the president of the service and play International Union, Mary Kay Henry thanks for joining glad to be with you. So the National Labor Relations Board ordered this

Second, election of Bessemer after Amazon was found to have violated the law in the first election, where two thirds of the employees voted against the union. What lessons do you think organizers have learned since that first loss and how is the strategy changed since then? I think, though, workers that were the initial organizers inside that warehouse understood that when Amazon added thousand workers just before that first election, that they didn't have the time to form the relationships that are required for people to trust each other, after take the lead to join together in the union. In the face of the barometer of Anti Union information that they were getting from their supervisors, and so I think the biggest lesson is kind of the art of organizing, which is connected.

with workers, whether their new or veteran, on the issues that they care about, addressing and helping paint a picture of how joining together will improve the job and change people's lives, I left a drill down a little more on that cuz. I always been curious, like what are some of the most common anti union tactics and messaging. They come like Amazon Use and then what are some messages and strategies the organizers used to get around those and changing people shits on making it clear that the supervisors relationship to the individual. Worker is going to change or threatening Amazon Day, actually took it to a new level and helped change people's assignment, so they broke up working which makes it harder on workers to think together about how to cook

the anti campaign be workers were marched into audio captive audience meetings where the the straight or of the warehouse in and outside consultants, come in and talk about all the ways in which unions are bad, and so there's lots of information that you have to get into for the leaders of the union to understand. So they can quiet their pro workers, fears user, then the matter with the results are. This will be a victory of support for the labour movement. Why? Why do you think that I think the best summer workers and Staten Island? We have totally changed the conversation about who gets to join the union and that anybody in any depth code of any race, I'm should have the right to join together and bargain a better life, and I think we are seeing public support that we haven't seen since the nineteenth sixties, for workers being able

join unions and those two warehouses are just the beginning of an uprising. That's happening with Starbucks workers to airport workers, health care workers, nursing, homeworkers and hospital workers, to understand! You know enough is enough. We just sacrificed our lives and the lives of our families. Throughout this endemic we aren't paid living wages. A lot of those workers don't get paid sick base for God's sake, and so that's what I think the Amazon workers have contributed to all Yeah. I was just going to say like zooming out from from the specific unionization efforts you know, polls show that support for unions are are higher than it's been in decades, and yet the percentage of Americans who belonged to a union is at an all time, low What do you think? That's all about that? There's been a concerted attack by government and the banishment to destroy unions over

ass. Forty year, Scott Walker, I kicked a half a million people out of unions in Wisconsin through two legislative acts that he led in Wisconsin ten years ago, that just that tip of the spear and then there's been these very creative anti campaigns by companies like Amazon and Starbucks books that are having less and less effect, because workers have decided. I not going to believe a company that calls me a partner but then treats me like I'm an enemy when I just did joined together with my coworkers. They know something's wrong with that picture, and that's why we need the unions all across the economy, I'm always interested in serve like pursuit of arguments, and I wonder obviously, there's there's union activists, there's management and trying to crush unions. What are the most persuasive argument to a worker, may on the fence? Who may think you know, I want better wages and better living conditions.

But I'm a little worried about what this union's gonna mean. For me, what a sort of some of the arguments attend to push workers over the edge to tell you that was a concern. Pre pandemic hosts post pandemic. If you think about the great resignation where workers have been quitting their jobs. I believe that has shifted to a great concerning where workers are deciding to stay on their job and joined together in it a better job, and so the biggest argument is: what are you and I going to do together? That's going to deal with this, king feeling we have in our gut every day as we leave about why am I having to return to this job tomorrow and too many workers all across the economy? Have that feeling? And I think that's why this uprising is impacting workers from,

We care to nursing homes, to hospitals, to teachers, as you said at the very beginning. What else do you think? A President Biden and the Democratic Congress can realistically do to support workers' rights between now and the Midterms, like a President Biden, has made crystal clear that if he had the choice to join a union, he would- and that is a huge boost of support and confidence for workers who have the guts incur bridge to walk through an anti campaign be fired, have their shift changed, be reassigned to a different store or location in the warehouse, all the ways in which workers are being harassed and intimidated by management to discourage them foreboding voting for the union. So its continuing to publicly support unions is a key thing that present

fighting and all elected officials should be doing. The second thing is they can allow for the rules to get rewritten so that workers don't have to walk through fire in order to join a union. So there needs to be consequences for employers who are running these anti campaigns, especially if they're getting federal dollars. We could tie federal, dollars and investment to letting workers decide for themselves whether or not they want to join the union, and then the third thing is we could allow for innovation in the states. We have passed with workers in California that are trying to legislate a table that get set between the franchise owners, the workers and the state government to deal with here stroke, that's happening in the stores and because they get burns on their arms from the Greece in the fry

and so there's so many ways in which government can back workers being able to join together in you. Indians, as we see more and more strikes and militant action happening by workers who want to change their lives. Last question for you pull after shows that a majority of Americans rank the economy, inflation living standards, wages as their top issues. Poles also show majority support for higher minimum wage, more affordable health care and child care and elder care, but it's still rare to see kitchen table economic issues really break through the media coverage or the national political debate, even among some democratic activists and politicians. Why do you think that is in and how do we change that.

I think of the workers that are uprising are going to are changing it. I think the minimum wage debate change in this country because of the fearlessness encourage of fast food workers who had the audacious demand of fifteen ten ago, and now we're talking about fifteen being too low and that there needs to be I or standard, and I think likewise, on workers being able to join unions and deal with those kitchen table issues on worker. Organizing is gonna inject that into the political debate, like no other time in history, a client, America Henry. Thank you much for joining us. Take care, and- and thanks for your work, got a bit of an unusual sponsor for this episode, the the Jordan Harbinger Show, which is a podcast. We love here. Cricket media through

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it guys. This is a totally original wildly innovative concept where we take an NC double a tournament bracket. We insert Republicans instead of basketball teams and we have them compete. How do we come up with a salary? How do we combine the I dunno okay couple note: this is just a joke: don't take it seriously or yell at us on Twitter, but when we're done go to the pod, save America Twitter feed. If you want to vote yourself and show us why we're wrong, can we take it seriously with each other and yell at each other? Yes, please, okay! Here's! How March badness works! I've selected, eight teams for you guys to choose from the awful eight you will debate amongst yourselves and choose the winner of a matchup between two teams in each of the four regions: West, EAST, south and Midwest. In some cases I'll tell you the results of a plane game. Now. We ve got to the awful eight, because again, words having fun here, but last year forgot a recent worry that some city that it take us at a contest figure congressional here you have been worried about what it is going to have you been on the internet, yeah sucks last year

I forgot to come up with the tie breaking mechanism this year. I'm just going to cast a vote. If you guys are split in perfect, firm and great at what we can do rock scissors paper, we can do that too we're going to start out in the west. Okay. So, with our sixth seed, we have a man who has ties to every kind of extremist group, a man who is so toxic, so extreme, that six of his siblings cut a campaign against him. I am talking about the Americas, Creepy IST, fascist dentist, POGO, sir. How could one real? I had a little shop, a whole life out there he's up. Yes, he's one of the worst for timely reference turtle. Personal five seat has been described by local newspaper as the flat earth society of local politics food. They were trying to get really voting declared unconstitutional in a state where ninety

percent of voters use it. I am talking about the Arizona Republican Party. Oh man, interstate one of the worst ones of all the states. So guys. What do you think? Some people think that Paul Gosar is an asset on the court b C will do anything to stop the steal John, or will you advance the Arizona GP who are best known for paying the cyber ninjas six million dollars to tweak the over under? In the vote? Total strong feeling about this. I I it's interesting. I let me let me think I want to hear your strong feeling, but here's here's, what I'm thinking first of all, the Arizona Republican Party actually helped prove that job. one buy a few more votes than they had originally intended. So they'd done some good work on the question I think here is: do you hate the player to hit the game? You know what I mean is that the question is it is it is, it is all ghosts are just recently just talk about it right here in this program was it a Thursday episode spoke at? No, I think I don't believe so. I think you were here call it think you were here spoke at a white nationalist.

Rally with Nick Winters. Marjorie Taylor Greene was the focus because she was there physically, but he he zoomed in he's, into the relative weight as her they were cheering Putin. Cheering invasion, cheering Russia who does he was in that crowd. You don't think member of the Arizona Republican Party were in that crowd yeah, but, as you said, they actually did help a help. Make it clear that Joe Biden won the time to vote. I go with puzzles or I'm going to go. Sir W ghosts are okay. Ghosts are our matchup in the east's pits old, vs new, so our three seed is a dual threat to democracy. She storms, the capital, he shreds the constitution and they both pretend that they don't talk about it. I'm of course talking about Justin's, Clarence, Thomas and his wife. Stop the steal Ginny

I know a fun fact about Jenny's. I knew her maiden name is lamp, but we got an old school old school power couple, traditional style offense, with lots of backdoor cuts right into the capital, a tremendous backcourt. You know they distribute the conspiracy theories. He finishes, then you get in. So there was a play in game to get us to the eighth seed. So out of the Far EAST? We had Vladimir Putin, you guys knows pedigree story, programmes with blood, but Putin got beat up by an undersized opponent and conference tournament and ended up losing to doktor. Mamet. Ah I know this is surprising, but step back and think about it. Guys in America is basically a moderate Republican, a miracle on the ice he's kind of a rhino. Meanwhile, Dr Oz is peddling shady supplements and he embraced the anti Vax community, while Putin tried to make his own vaccine big time. No, no wait. I thought we were pink when I'm a journey time to playing game motherfucker. So who do we choose the east, the Thomas's power couple

political dynasty or a media darling named Dr Oz, whose dropping off of his name image and likeness for decades. This is Hard Qatar, Thomas. they're, so hot right now so hot right is the content. This is a game. there are now continent of the Thomas. I love it out, and I love it now. We ve got a vile upset. Yet again, will you quit cheating? answer, are what what what are the ones with the with Bonnie Bonnie and money. I love it come out of the this, now, the we we've got a creepy old guy who just won't go away, weird, hair dye authority. In vibes he's demanding one last ride, even though everyone wishes he would just retire. I am not talking about coat k and talking about Nuclear Donald Trump he's are one seed you'll get it shucks. Eventually we gotta talk about your own okochee carrying it. Damn it I mean. I'm a cash came with the foreseen do out of the south. We have got the rest of us

not yet I'd Rhonda, Santa's, gutless, markka, Rubio, human spray, TAN Matt, Gates, Rick, Scott, the don't say gay build. This grew they can spread out. They please own defence in they smother you with bullshit. You know what was who we got here is the Oji see he's selfish old man who thinks it's all about him or his disciples who are out there doing the work their crash in the school boards are getting dunked on on and off twitter. Despite some lingering concerns about underage, recruiting and diaper. Dandies of you know what I'm talking about, but I think there's. I think I know where John's head of that, and I will just say I give a country a trump you'll have a trump for four years and teach a country to trump you'll have chumps forever why vote for Florida. I've heard for Florida too. I knew you and what's a what's a n c double a tournament without a big upset early on good

for the judge that trunk goes down in the first round of voting as its twenty twenty not deny the existence of covered, but then I e with the rim. They cut down basketball nets and Social We, you know what I'm realising Tommy's spinner. All of these lines. You've worked on all day or just do the interview John. I got work to do John you've got to take the interview about unionization. I got to focus on this. I got this. I got bits I got lines are busy. busy man again last last last, actually Midwest. I want just a word you guys this bracket soul, crushingly awful, the dregs of humanity down here in the MID West, so

It was an all oh hi, o playin game to get us receive. You love this right of veto, higher rail alarm, venture capitalist turn, populist shady vance, faced off against stone, cold idiot judgment on J D, shameless liar tweets are insufferable wines about tech. Companies takes Peter Tills, money, button and Del got the win after he tried to beat up a senior citizens you us Senate Made- and in this tournament it's really it's about. Who wants a more so here Soft Mandela face off against our seventh seat. This person is absolutely insufferable. We're talking about Tyler hands. Bro meet woe Joe all in one. You don't know that this lapse. The core fist, bumps insurrectionist. I would describe him as slightly more tolerable than TED Cruz, so interested talking about Josh. How has the holly? He handily defeated the Michigan kidnappers to get here mostly because I'm pretty sure I can

joke about them, so we got Josh Mandel he's a bruiser in the paint handles on the court, but and you a grip on reality or Josh Holly, because if you think about it, the insurrection was the ultimate buzzer Jesus, all the good. You know what the jug lad I took. The interview really were turning this cause. It was along to. I just want to know the blast when we got, I feel Holly though Holly I do. I think I think I think man now, because I don't think we have enough in like true insurrectionists, indifferent, actually a Gostar, so that the Abbe interesting yet will to sort of like Holly got to be an insurrection is because he had chops manner, yeah. We don't even know if Mandela's getting out of their primary yeah yeah Zuhri called them. Josh hi the doofus whisperer, which I thought was really funny so you're fascist for is Paul. Ghosts are the Thomas,

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