The Nuggets dominate Game 1 and Heat Culture might be dead again. We talk about the NBA Finals and Adam Silver teasing a Ja Morant suspension (00:00:00-00:22:44). Ryan Whitney joins the show to talk SCF storylines and picks, Connor McDavid, what it's like to play for the Cup and more (00:22:44-00:49:49). Paul Rabil joins us in studio to talk about the PLL being back, new rule changes, teams moving and negotiations on a big potential interview (00:49:49-01:23:19). We do a movie review of Bloodsport and a deep dive into Frank Dux the guy plus fyre fest of the week (01:23:19-02:02:36).
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its it was closer than it looked final score wise one for ninety three, but they had control of this game from the first tip. I think we kind of expected, though the heat obviously coming off a seven game series going straight from Boston to high altitude. Probably not the best set up for a team to face a team has been rest.
And for like a week and a half, but that was bad news for the heat. So it's interesting. You brought up the altitude big cat because the heat stunk at shooting tonight that a bad performance max truce overnight
overnight from three three for ten and kill. Martin was also one for seven yeah so and gay
and Duncan robinson one for six basely, everyone who was good get celtics turn into a pumpkin against snug asylum
deep. I, when knuckles deepened some research studies, billy football style. I dug deep into some actual journalistic papers here. Ok, there's a
work or a study that was done by harvard university ever heard of it. They compared how visiting players shoot free,
rose from an away at denver and outside the pepsi center. They shoot seventy six per cent at high elevation. They shoot. Seventy four point: five, which is a big difference in free throw percentage. Now you look at a three point shot I have to imagine if you're the heat coming from sea level, ball
I was a little bit further max druze miss a lot of shots off the back iron. I give the mvp so far to air yeah to air, not just a movie. It's funny bring up free throws because the heat actually were one hundred percent from the free throw line. Two for two yeah, two for two, the lowest amount of free.
It was attempted in an m b, a finals game. It was just bad news for the heat. I still think the heat are going to be heard from in the series. I don't actually think nugs and four, but the fact that Yogesh Ich had a triple double and it was the most casual triple double. There was a moment. I think it like maybe start of the fourth where he had like five or six field goal attempts. He finished eight for twelve, he didn't even have to shoot and the nuggets were able to dominate that game and jamal Murray.
can use his stretch of being like the best or is he the best robin going right now is? He is definitely if he was on a team with anybody except for Yogesh. Everybody would talk about him being the finals, Mvp yeah, because he's awesome would he have he had six rebounds. I know he had ten assists yeah that sucked. I was bad about him not to get triple double or double double, and it's it's whatever, but I do also have a bet on him to win finals mvp, just in case he goes off a couple of games at plus one thousand, but
is the best robin he's better I'd say they have the best one, two three in the nba right now yet for out of five starters and double digit site. This is what the markets have been all play off, especially at home, yet to lose a game at home in the play off, and it's not just yoke its everyone else chipping in it's what we ve seen like when we talk some might Malone last week or this week. Sorry, my weeks are all fucked up, because there is no crazy to side tangent, you get one day off and you just lose
concept of tat yeah. I morial day fox me up: every eye was preparing for hot sequel thrown to you. It's just like eight. It happens, and I just I don't know what day it is for the entire week, yeah one three day weakened screws up. That's why hank
always gone from rizal, always yawning away hank. What do you think about that?
It does a pretty good hang that was max max yeah. No, but the thanks for being here max nuggets the crazy thing about nuggets, like yogurt
he's been this good earlier for last for five years is the fact that everyone
has been: either injured or not great, and now
everyone around them is healthy and great.
europe is still doing the same thing like he's been this dominant in this great for
then appear to time, but now he has a full team around them and their seemly unseen
I would say that watching a big man that can pass like yoke, it is maybe my
everything in all sports to watch and unthinking through every single league, a quarterback with just a cannon arm that
fun to watch a running our art, a great kick return, like Dante hall, Devon hester, the out those guys, but I actually think that watching a big man that it just throw nolan passes over his head from the post down
well, I I think that's my favorite thing in all sports, so we might have to do or maybe put this on the mount rushmore list I mean lefty, lefty home run, lefty homers garage, the home run is
do you like. I will move on shorter.
I just wonder I runs your sir, the best yeah, but I'm really a big, a big chunky, dude yeah that has signal le passes. That's
number one yeah. No, it is, and it's very high up there we're watching the game. Okay, I uh got an outfielder with a cannon for an arm yeah
like what guy you could throw from right field. The third yeah with no bounce that already fucking
latimer guerrilla league for a couple of years, I'll just watch those and just be like holy fuck. Those are fun to watch. We are talking to to ibo works here parcel and he was telling me that a yogesh was an awesome water, polo player, believe it and it makes a ton of sense when you watch his passing like he passes like a water polo yeah and given his love of horses, he's probably the best two polo sport player in the world. I'd agree, yeah and basketball
and a basketball in the best possible way and worth it does feel and again. This is obviously just after game one, so
will overreact a little bit, but it feels like this is the crowning of yoke, which has the best player in the entire.
World in a universe, universities, the universally the best passed while policing,
reversal verses, envy yeah, not just on it,
into the united states. Now I did have a question for hank and I'll field it for him. We'll know we we have. We have celtics fan hank okay, sitting right there and he did have a tweet. That said that he was depressed about how the series against the heat ended and that he was
evinced that the celtics would have beaten the nuggets in five yeah I mean it is all about matchups in the n b a and the celtics are probably the
seem in the nba. If you really look at it position, but by position player by player,
You know we ran into a he team that within frisky at the right time, but we're still better team were better team that nuggets
the team that everyone,
That was a nine gamesters. You guys that, however,
I pay per year the chips you went in and ate that's what spot the light fact or fiction?
fact or fiction that better team
real dangers overview egg exuberance illustrate a bigger, theirs is bigger than
air, gordon, like his defence and in what he adds to that team is- is crazy.
because they do have in like a border juniors all like they have just big yeats, it's funny watching the he try to match up against the big eyes because they don't they have their bam, whose a big guy asterisks
he's big guy jason yeah he's like he's, got long arms, but he's not super tall he's not a true centre. Then they ve got cody seller.
Who looks like he's a flea trying to write a buffalo when he tried to finical yogi edge and then, after that,
really have anybody else and an end
the he'd, have in the series and like who knows maybe they'll start he cultural rise backup. I do think that tonight, like there is very little chance he could pull off a winter night. Git Sunday night will be very like the bill, throw as much they have at the nuggets, some adjustments, but the heat zone, defence, which was great against celtics yoke. It was built in a lab to beat it
I like you, you have a big man who can stand at the foul line and can pass everywhere and can also shoot and drip like he can do everything you can't there's like it the zone collapses on him. He will always find the open player. So
Well, it's going to be interesting to see what swell comes up with. I do. Do you think the heat I we never never made projections, but I I was thinking nuggets in six nugs at five
five dogs at five. When I gave you because when I was thinking six, the problem with six is that would be the nuggets winning in miami where I feel like the nuggets. Yeah five feels right. Five too I've. I think that to get one jimmy butler game, hello offer like forty five fifty game, three young its wing game for than the close, our game
close at home, yeah gilmore age poorly. This won't he cautious dead. We can say he calls his head. He cultures officially dead. Yet this all this will be replayed. I hope we make the miami heat type.
They know when they win when they, when the series and six were also can have a completely opposite, take on failure when the heat lose a finals. This is great seas and all
chronic one, the championship while I set it during the stream, but there is a small
pardon me. You know what, if you're a sports fan- and you have to you- are always having to like slip and slide through different arguments and try to figure out what your angles are.
One in Haiti spoke like ripped off like five or six titles in the next ten years, because I absolutely would say that he's the greatest assembly, a coach of all time
That's why lebron won those titles yeah, so I am. There is definitely a part of me that is a big spo fan being like ghosts. Well, go win a bunch of titles without lebron, and then I will say that you're, the goat yeah I mean
jackson. He had Michael Jordan, we're gonna guy anybody can when entitled Michael Jordan, all all who did spoke osborne
whose, when like what like eight more, would fill up with you and with eleven
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but more war respect until jackson's bodies. We need more. If you can win.
More titles than we could. You say he's the greatest and that's why leubronn want nobody? You could also,
this game with spyware, if, if the heat keep getting to the finals with on draft guys, and even if they don't win, you can just be like this is a bigger accomplishment making it this far through the eastern conference play off, then it was winning six titles with Michael Jordan, Scotty pippen undertake a true. The I'm in this. Is that what you say right now, the best cushion job with ever seen of all tat is this. This plan
when we win the title or not best coaching job, we've ever seen incredible job. Did you see a step by the way that we are we miss that we have to call out? Ah, pat riley has been part of twenty five percent of all n b, a finals. That's insane
that's insane. I also I love the shot whenever they show him and the crowns him with alonzo mourning yeah and they're just sitting there looking like gangsters ready to take some people out on the court. Yeah
I pat riley is a very underrated basketball guy because he's been behind the scenes for so long that he doesn't really give that many press conferences anymore. We don't get to see him in action on the sidelines. Everybody thought actually for awhile that he was calling the shots that he was essentially coaching. The team yeah when spo took over and spo was, is like figurehead help it, but no pat riley turns out just he is he. He called this dude so night. Nineteen n b, a finals from three as a player, tennis, coach,
six as an executive at twenty five percent of mv finals in league history? That's insane he er yeah, and it also is not to bring up bad thing for knicks fans. It's a great! What, if cause pat riley, obviously leaves new york like what, if he had just become you know he went upstairs new york. Obviously James Dolan is is the biggest issue there but like he, he is the culture yeah,
He went to heat in and made that culture, yeah and they're they're gonna get one at least. I'm still confident
nugs and five on a o. Other terrorists were supposed to get ten more. Ten more titles have more titles, yeah greatest coach full time, not even close,
I liked squatting on that. Take just take texture. This comes purely out of defending Michael Jordan, I mean exactly and and then lebron james like if you hit him with truth, serum he'd be like, I barely knew how to play basketball before I met spell. That's, I think we can all agree. What do you want.
knowledge of young right. This way, Michael Jordan college, got shut down by dan dodge. Yes,
in the mb. A rattles off six yeah also want a titled, couch garden, overlooking that yeah yeah, I'm alright. One other thing before we get to our interviews. Ah Adam silver
teasing us all with John moran wild wild tease where he said he they they release statement saying we ve uncovered a fair amount of additional information. We probably could have brought it to a head not by now, but we made the decision that it would be unfair to these players in these team.
To announce that decision in the middle of this series, so is announcing that there is a decision, but it won't be announced yet a fair amount of it
formation. How many more and more ahead answers more instagram show raising guns. Yes, he's got he's, I would actually mean
he probably like I put onto just like a height tape of John ran with god.
eight. Would it be worse if it was multiple guns, I think could be worse of his more. If you just had one
that he really loved that he couldn't give up. It's like his pink yeah. You get that it's emotional support gun exactly like that's totally understandable if you have a different gun, like people have different hats, yeah that they take out. They like look at themselves and they're, not gonna, take the forty five today yeah and they feel that it's more like a fifty cal, but this is like so he
Not we don't want to take away from the n b a finals, but we're going to announce that something severe is going to happen after the n b, a finals. So please just don't talk about it. During the n b, a finals,
No, it's very vague right now and leaves it open to interpretation where everyone can talk about it for the next year. We I know it is
is this. Is this? Is the mba promoting oppenheimer drama, rent oppenheimer building an atomic bomb is in the movie yeah that'd be great. If John was in the background with is
in no other bomb he's on the plane
go and live on needle again,
and he wasn't actually cast in the movie. He just happened to be where they were film,
I brought my bomb yeah. I heard you guys yeah! Let me let me go to my car. Will
I do think the n b, a finals is very similar to oppenheimer. We both know how it's going to end. Yes, the history has already been written. Yes, that is true. The nuggets will win, I'm the nuggets. I will retire from this podcast
do that now, as some would at some point you at some point. Ok, that was scary, tat my life flash reform. I would
I will retire. How quick do you think billy? Would be like, oh actually, I can move. She has already got this weird. I know I now
ready to go bags
What I will not retire, you no matter what you
I say, but I will. I will give up all my integrity. I will relinquish
as for my integrity as as a sports journalists, that's fair as edina them
deal school of journalism. I will give that all up
and you all know ball you. I won't obama, officially ball, not knower. If the nugget, someone- ok, that will
to how to build all. I will anytime, you say anything like what
I dunno I'll, get a boar move: oh
I'll get a bomb of car romantically yeah yeah? If you notice has a horror movie up? Ok, that's that's really done that
but this is a fact that Europe's appetite with yourself. I should say that. No, definitely
or you got carried away, sometimes on their show or something about what you sit down the studio and he says stuff, and then you instantly regret it and then big kettles. You wait be careful, don't say that and then you're like okay, good point, big cat, and then you catch your breath and he says something dumber yeah yeah. It makes the tattoo bet kind of pale in comparison now, a tattoo
it'll give get a tattoo of just one ball know you know you should do I, let's clean this up, you're not going to get a tesco removed. If the heat do, when the series you have to get a tattoo of a basketball and then
get it removed. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's fair, yup! That's totally fair is the pain of just getting a tattoo for like one week and then immediately getting I I gotta. Let it set in for awhile show at all yeah. If I get the ball
bicep, I gotta get the prayer hands underneath it too restrictive winning com, but we should actually get all the balls and park,
honor like someone
body, and then, when you fuck up with a take
We're getting take one. That's a great idea. Do our
Everyone whose on pardon might take has to had the same tattoo, just a soccer ball, and we see
the smartest, as into powerful ball pay small, throw antennas pocket
Now that removes like in two seconds actually, no, I know that most about tennessee, joke of which is the goat and I've been right all along. Yet there's so many balls out there. You could get yeah rugby ball billiards who you eat,
get all them yet we'd have to eat up above all, billiards wall
bowling ball boiling ball yeah. I think. If the earth, the balls and then
all right to all the money I stood or yes and we as general yeah, ok of I'm a five ball of you, I'm in fact, like the cutest little tattoo on your ankle, we do ankles equally
it is what sir you you in the tramp of bells all balls
get one of my balls tattoo to look like a basket now, because you have the option of lines. Ok, there's guitar,
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Oh come on. I think we actually found this out wit. You are our most recurring guest in number. One is three, I think so I think you are officially how we have to do the analytical, but you were like
second or third four years ago, and you come on like three or four times a year, so you have to like gone past. Everyone else, though you just
one on two or three years ago. I may not all that's not that doesn't sound very analytics to me. It sounds like you just guess it, but I'll take it
I think you're number one or you might be ever since Titus came on the show and settled that's nasty things. Are we to stop inviting him on
use. Your aim is own. Show you how we get as,
So we need to have more anymore I'm. So it is ryan whitney our number one.
I guess we want to have more, because we have been talking a lot. A basketball, laudable, we'll talk on p m t we gotta talk. Some hockey sell us on this stanley cup final, because not us were package. You know that, but from the average fan outside who may be in the biggest hockey fan there like flora in vegas who the fuck cares. Why feel like those people, probably.
too dumb to get to get through to at this point like it, if based on whoever the teams are you're, not even gonna watch, I mean it's kind of hard to to get those people's attention and and and have them, given a legit chance. What for any hockey fan its enjoying watching the highest level point for the best trophy that's the hardest to win and sports. You know that these two teams should produce pretty entertaining games and they're both very similar. The fact that neither one of them has to stand they caught by thinks kind of exciting, especially with all the the teams that we ve had kind of run through. The password seems like ten fifteen years with the penguins blackhawks kings, etc. To win multiple titles, but the hawk he's gonna be good because their mean they're there, their physical and they're kind of proving that as much as the games changing throughout the regular season with skill and lack of physicality and sometimes boring regular, seizing gaze because of arm, maybe not the fight in the things that the phantom
I do did enjoy the playoffs are still a man's game for a lack of a better term. It's like it it it's it's it's! It's two teams that basically beat the shit out of whoever they play against they've just bullied. Every team they've played against vegas has huge d. So it's old school hockey, it's hard to get to the net. Florida's got the best american born player right now and matthew tkachuk, so that should hopefully get some eyeballs and eichel as well as just like high level american players. Those are the two stars for each team since a bunch of great storylines for hockey, fans and and french fans,
but people who are just saying, I'm not watch and based on a really care about these two teams. They're they're out of the question: yes, silica, fine! What's it like? You said it's the best trophy sports for those of us who have been lucky enough to who is the stanley cup? It's a time that you won't forget and some that your entire town would forget.
and if you look at the panthers I didn't realize this, but at the end of the season they almost
you can get into the playoffs they had to have the pittsburgh penguins lose on the last day of the regular season for them to sneak in, which is a crazy run so yet come
your point of the regular season, doesn't mean as much you guys,
trinity mba. Actually
Oh, you guys doing load management and the regular season and just get into play off, and then you can inflict switch
you don't even have to watch out on one load management. It's the game has changed. The men above the men in the suits have changed the game. There's there's, there's just a less physical factor of smaller physical factor to hockey. Now, which is also a good thing I mean you're, seeing like and like smaller players become superstars. You're, seeing the fastest game the fastest, the game's ever been so there's definitely some positive sides to it, but for people who, like old school hockey, the regular season change but for tests for you to say it's the players doing the lord mentioned. No, no, no, no, not at all
they're, just they're, just not the type of players to get in the league anymore, the physical ones. I listened, I I I will watch every second of the stanley cup final, because how can you not it's the best? Ah, but you have to listen. You are an ambassador of the game. You've got to understand if you can change one mind, you've done your job so like pitching this stanley cup finals. Important. Would you say, though, wit these playoffs have not been the best, because
getting third round sweeps. I know the stars made a little bit of a series of that, but then got absolutely dump trucked game. Six like it feels like it's out. The first one was the exceptional and in the last two rounds have not maybe been up to fully par for the stanley cup playoffs. No doubt, and unfortunately I mean people always say, and I agree that the nhl stanley cup playoffs are like the the best policies and around and the first round like now in the past few, especially more than ever, have become, must watch tv must watch games there there on a control, the action that the games go at seven, it's crazy. This for games and night it seems like, but I think guys are just going so occurred. A just. The poorest round is such a battle that their cottage gassed out, the second and second
the sakura seems to be the worse round a lot and then the conference finals it rares back up this year was disappointing right, you gotta sweep on one side. You got a. What is it? What was it a gentleman? It wasn't a sweep, we should just tie. Rod brendan was more did say, was not a sweep at time. It wasn't a sweep, loser talk, but yeah it was it was it was they weren't the most competitive, ah conference finals, but I I think that the cup will be awesome. I think the cup I like a lot of vegas is the favorite and I kind of understand why. But if the profs keeps playing like this, like sergei bobrovsky, who I think Charles barkley call them, sergei baobab, chuck obama, John something hilarious on t n t he's a big hockey guy though, but if he continues to play like this, I don't know if they can be beat, I don't think they can be beat his.
I think he's eleven and two in the playoffs, with this insane save percentage and goals against and he's in one of those zones that the one thing I'm worried about for the panthers is a pickup they could have chose once they swept it once they finished the conference finals. They probably would have said, will point to knights or will play the third night and give us two nights off, because what they had going so ten days off. I think it's the second longest break between conference.
Violin and cup final that could kind of maybe kill what they had going. I don't think it will, but that's a possibility, we're going to get back to ryan whitney in the second before we do he's brought to you by simply safe. If you've listened to the show before you've probably heard me talk about simply save you know that they were named best home security of twenty twenty three by: u s news and world report, so they're, probably right,
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is that simply safe dot com, slash p m t. There is no safe, like simplisafe, and now here's more ryan whitney. So wait you actually you played in the stanley cup in two thousand and eight right. You are you're on the penguins. Did you guys win? I know we lost thanks.
what what's that like? Is you always hear about the glory afterwards? No drinking out of the cup? That whole thing is the best trophy, as you said when you guys lost the stanley cup. What was the mood like after the game in the locker room?
whenever I got my supposed to go after this and just get like run over by a car to like this is just you're, you're you're killing me here, but it's it's. It's very, very emotional. I just remember in the room, like everyone's just kind of breaking down at different moments and you're, just so close to your dream. We lost at home to we wanted triple overtime, maybe double overtime, game. Five were down
a minute ago, max talbot tied it up. We want in overtime, double overtime, ever go back.
Well, then I will go in all. We got this series. Let's go three to go on home and in detroit put on a clinic and then choose to hear them celebrating and it was it was. It was soul. Crochet I mean it was deaf when the worst loss of my career, that's including the gold medal game. I they just that's a quick,
ornament in it and that's heartbreaking as well. I've been I've been on some special losers, but if it doesn't work,
all year and we ran through the eastern conference at yeah. I think we swept ottawa. Ah, we beat the rangers in five and philly and five. I think we, I think we had four fourteen games to get to to the cup final and then Detroit was still playing dallas. When we were done
they read through them and they they had a legendary team. So you know they they ended up getting them the next year after hosts, even left, pittsburgh go to detroit
gonzo, that's pilot. I wonder Chris Kuhn it's what I do remember just being so crushed and agree
you know the next night you're hanging out with the guys and you're not over it, but still appreciate what a great run it was, but right the immediate aftermath, it's it's. It was crushing weight, so you had a rest first rust
it's like you guys were off, for I wasn't that bad we didn't cause. I think they wanted six and we wanted five. So it wasn't like this. I think it was maybe six days, but I don't think against Detroit that year it could have been a quick break or long break. They were just that loaded and ready to win another one and he had a foot injury too. So like right after the season's over, you were like hate it maybe it's time for some time
was just so you guys know. I had a foot injury that whole time, yeah yeah, I just I just wanna- be like an n bear and come out and just let you guys know what I've been struggling with this entire time. Getting yeah getting surgery now wait. So what is it like, though, like six days off when you're on a run like that, like he's so fun and and and I'm sure, it's changed, but there's always talks about the guys in l a he knows when they won their cups. They were finishing one series early too and we were through the east, as I mentioned, and we were ripping it up like what we were. Having bangers just unreal nights, the bar everyone's getting after it
if you know, and then you get back in the rink the next day- maybe skate the next day, and I just remember you know going through that run and having the break towards the cup final. We definitely celebrated after we won the east and then it's just the excitement you're on the ice every day, it's june, it's like the whole hockey world watching you there's a hundred reporters at every practice leading up to it and the excitement leading in and then I I I'll never forget. We started in Detroit game one and got out there for warm ups in the places like I dunno eighty percent, full, the music's rocking and there's the stanley cup final logo in the middle of the ice and throughout the playoffs. Each series and and and round feels important, but that was like
on steroids. It was just the vibe and the energy in the building you could feel like this is different than those other three I'll. Never forget that score. We didn't score a goal in game, one or game two we got role or too much rest yeah. We talked about the about the the playoffs speed. Last time you were on the show, but the difference is there a difference even between playoff speed and stanley cup final speed yeah, I think so or maybe it was the fact that Detroit was that good and far and away the best team we'd face, and they were that fast with and without the puck but yeah it was. It was a jump up which kind of leads me like the first rounds. Knots like I mentioned, and then you know the grind of the playoffs second round third round they're a little tired this year wasn't great but then you're always right. Backfired up like this is now at four games away. What's what's your official pick where golden knights podcast by the way, just like I picked florida, which is great for vegas, because I haven't picked for the one series I picked ever? I picked Boston a picture onto I pick carolina
but now I'm at the point of like I had something special is going on here and the goaltending and like what could chuck's doing he. He is just leading me to think they'll somehow get it done, but I I was open on chocolate, I'm not confident at all. Okay, that alright and so other things we gotta clean up from the playoffs connor Mcdavid sub ohm wrong.
what is he playing is equally supply is young. I ran it. He ran into a great bag, is called night's dream. He was very adamant that next season stanley copper it's a complete failure. Again, I'm gonna keep back.
The best player I've ever seen on what you want me to tell you he's not a bomb, they need some more guys around them
what about out, I think you said it was the best plan, any sport in the where he's got euro zero during zeros,
like a vital organs s fire in the nba nicole yoga.
he's about to get why he didn't why, though he didn't win Mvp diddy only because so many they got tired of giving it to him yeah. He went to the last three years, all right. So if he wins it then then you can take what you can give him the best athlete in the world, but you guys just trauma
mc david comments and you're, always after him, and what we do
can records and doing things that have been done in about forty years in the innate charlie's join in the list of gretzky le meal. Every season is high,
but on these lists with yam know what you want me to tell you. You need twenty guys to win a stanley cup. You know what list he should hop on is the one where they engrave it on their big cop, hey. If his,
iran's and he doesn't want to stand up. I will bow
Do you guys as being incorrect in terms of content, gave its greatness, but I'm not jump off the fence before the guy's twenty eight years old and whatever is why these twenty seven
why better, I told you I bet on them is approved. I mean you're ever you bet on everyone,
yeah, I'm gonna bet on them again, I'm very much looking forward to woody actually bowing down to us that is going to be twenty six x, twenty six, okay, so he's getting a little old
When you hear your promise a hockey out, I would say it's twenty five to twenty nine, those four years since these one urine
he's. Gonna do a quick, because any visas, thirty's
say. Well, it was no other people on the tv
Rynch is a lot of Aimee. Then he'll get a real team around him as a little older takes little less money and then he wins about four will see. I did all admit that we are drawing watching him play hockey.
Incredible. Why me? Can you not alleviate nuts, but he still hasn't won anything like. I can't give him all the credit until he's a winner, but he is out of this world like he. It is crazy watching him play because he looks like he's playing a different sport than everyone else on ice. I was yeah, that's my boy. It's nuts and yes, you're right. You gotta win a title to be considered the best of all time or one of them, but watching him like night in a night out is just it looks like a different league. It looks like an alien on the ice like I, you think of the tv's on fast forward is cutting back cutting and he's now he's like leading the league in goals this year. It's it's
I'm, not I'm my hurried scholar night so we have thrown is in that will help it. I need one of those in twelve. You got from qatar in twelve. They get from power to the market over here. It's like people, public jones, in four nines or twelve nine
if you, if you take one of those, you just start instantly sweating, and I got a great experience. I get the hiccups. Why throw to you ever get one a package that's like must have been like mismanaged at the lab, and it just cripples you.
what the hell do. You know how to do it. I liked it plays in roulette where I take one of the nine and then
mix then with a bunch of threes,
and I never know when I'm going to get denied. I liked that I liked that yeah it keeps you fresh
but you were talking to a second ago about that big vegas DE taught me about how big there d is all funny phd
the deck jog ha ha. What we are
we're fans of Alec Martinez.
guys, he's big day. You guys report offers
than any thou. Nor will we do. We did a preview of the of the age I'll play off and it was maybe thirty
Seconds long- and we just said stupid things about each city than we thought
not that he's a listener and he was disappointed that we trashed vegas so we're trying to make it up to him and I have ripped on him cause. He did score that goal against the Blackhawks. Twenty fourteen, the game, seven overtime goal, but now that I know that he's a listener, we are a gold knights podcast. Were that easy when, when we talk about the big d in in vegas he's, actually I think the smallest one and they're all like you know better angels. Six three we got Mcnabb is about six six theodore, six, four he's sick. I think he's six one like two tents.
so, and I I believe he, I think, he's the all time record holder block shots in the nhl like that. That could be completely in that extra weight means just said fact: checked it. Yes, carol, nice, okay, I got one, but it just that's kind of what the their block a shot they're hard to play against, so that the big d I'm talking about, not where your mind headed to the gutter Pft. I was talking about that. What about the big piece, the
brooks kept his beloved peas, yet eyes why yeah yeah, I know for your loss. I know how much a page you that our is
I I I shouldn't say it pains me like I'm.
I am amazed at how nasty he is a cop. I just I feel like you're the you're, the guys that he's like all be called to them, and
treat people that he does it all wrestling. As you know that a lot of I don't know what I've always majestically. I've never met him right all see
burke and hare dogging on one eye dog them, but
never once said anything about the gulf game. He's an assassin, it's a joke out there, so watching domination. As I talk on David I enjoy, it seems to me with
knowing em now little bit of a decade. No, but I've said nice things about him. So there was, you know
yeah low him idiot, big difference, happy pride, we haven't gotten blown by him, yet that's a big deal!
waiting. You know
you didn't even know I didn't know you had better great bet ida. Looking back you'll, never sniff that, guy again it was twenty four
like he's the fact that, after what he did at the masters, I I do want to find out. He won't share that he wouldn't. Maybe you would with your you guys. You guys are all bodies, but he said he knew exactly what he messed up,
on the other costs, then it will never happen again, but he won't share its the pace. No, he was doing it too. You watch him it in the in the pga championship. He was walking extra slow so that no one ahead of him could hold them up.
bitch in after the masters of our own, slow, guys or the way he plays? He play so fast, where he just gets up to the ball in its it, so he was walking up the fair way in the pga championship. Super deliberate and super slow, so that every time we got to the ball, he was ready to go
That was what he didn't want to share with the other reporters
don't even share with us. I just figured out what we know him so well. We like guiding us so tight
I do yeah as gaza golf. Not it's it's
stated and how fast he places pretty sick, but nobody calls the panthers the peace. I'm sorry miles, Jaif now called them the p
What in unless people in Florida that are doing math living in the side of a crack house? I call him the ps. I've never heard that my light released the shirt. That is a very political. It just says: g o p s. Ah so the g o ps. Ah, it's I think, Jake's on the zoom. Maybe one of the word
don't you ever released, go peas and take it as an alternative teacher. Afore brooks gap can now ok,
alright on twitter or calling them that what he had spread a lot of people are calling them not now. No, I don't. I began as a buzz as capgras
spread. Even you can admit that now he was on one when he said peace he was drunk. I call on the peace
No. I was during a pga press conference. I said I have to go home. Get his mind right. Is that I'm going to watch the p and all who perform used for now? Is this
time he called out yeah yeah. He it during the tournament you know you're drunk then too.
I'm calling the peace that protocol we need them in germany eightys. I called you get buckled
If you came on show drink it, I want to make her on the ship. Oh, it was awesome. Riyadh appease though it says
You know what I do like the rat tradition, though, where they throw the rats onto the ice and when I looked it up, Ariana Grande, getting hit by a puck tradition,
that is another story of how the rats began.
yeah I was, I was going to say it, but you could probably tell better than I can. Ah yeah I mean if you, if you looked it up, I I I
I have a right, but in ninety such and then and I go into their first stanley cup final- they got swept by the ads, but I think that year there was
rats like in their old building or wherever they weren't. One of the guys on the team actually killed one with a stick and like the story, grew so all of a sudden. This playoff run every goal there truck and rats on the ice. They had to basically get rid of the tradition. I still think you can't do it after a goal. Scored, maybe they've change it for the baby will change it for the finals is a legendary picture of patrick walker, scored on him
the files, but call our need is like dogs back into the net is dying as a rat's or follow us know that it's great so yeah yeah, that's pretty much. The story was scott melon, be so
It was in the locker room and men
be grabbed a stick and hit with a slap shot against
law and then later on, that ninety scored two goals. So
and called it a rhetoric and then,
at night, they saw a drone rats on the ice. It is called traditional
that weird shit in each eloquent
they do it in detroit with octopi. I already.
Wishes yeah it's the battery, and I have one last question for you: where robot question promo code take r h, o b a c k, dot com, promo code, take cues lips, joggers, polos, hoodies shorts shorts are back, it is summer rollback. I just bought a pair bought a pair to get them for free bought a pair. They are so comfortable, roebuck, dot com use promo code. Take ah my last question, for you is: how long do you think it will take for conor bernard to be better than Connor Mcdavid? I hear it. I don't think he can be fair to say it while that's what if he wins a cup
I mean I could throw names of guys have won a car. I wanna cop, like that necessarily mean you're, a better player, but we're ring podcast, okay,
Why don't you were ok, so I still don't take it can happen because look at it thou bad, the blackhawks. Are they look
or but what it would have confidence that could, I think, he's going to be incredible, I think, will be a future superstar, but I think big David's, like once, every twenty years type guy I mean I don't see if put dart- is better than make David in
only good for spit chair guts was hawk, is going to continue to grow, but I don't see it happening. The mc David you have to change his first name. If he's, if they aren't, you
It's all there. Maybe one of them drops and end and just as one end and corner yeah wit, you have to
acknowledge that saying that is not possible to be better than comic David is that's wishful thinking on your part
yeah pod weapon weapon, gotta, there's gotta, be the of all of all time. Yeah just stick for what was discussed in terms of Mc David. I mean they both pinto artwork, since they were like thirteen years old in terms of like future upcoming prodigies in the game, but I just think big
Is that good? I pick this. Kid could be incredible: maybe rape and eat them, I'm just sorry guys. I don't agree with what many eightam articulate beneath them. That's why you are saying that is impossible to be better at hockey than cannabich David. No, I'm not saying it's impossible. You ask,
if he would be better, I said I don't think so. I'm not say
some day there won't be somebody better than I am, but I get there.
it'd, be corner bernard I mean if tkachuk wins, a ringer of Alec martinez wins. Another ring he's better than Connor Mcdavid, who has Zach white cloud. If the vegas golden knights win it that he's better than Mc David, I'm with you
I have one last last question for you guys. I don't know your schedule for tickets. Are you guys
and back and forth from miami to vegas, so busy
Every game cause, t and t has the broadcast for the first time they got the finals, which will be great there. The the you know, their crew does an unreal job, so he'll be back and forth every game. I think we'll be at game four in florida and
give three important lord. I believe I won't be down there for three and then gave five in vegas
ok, so I say if it is-
business for my liver go and going back and forth between vegas in miami. That's like to spend checklist iron mantra outline for yes yadda.
I mean if we see our after that one is a miracle who gets incriminated. First, the panthers, the goal nights or I that's the question hour day- was crazy. I make it for gave no, definitely not. I will wait. You are the best. Thank you so much for fitness in awe
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six time recurring guest
Paul rebel. It is time for p, o l season fyi, that's right, which is crazy, we're in season five, a fuck. You remind me real, quick cause. I get a bad memory who won the last championship for a right. That's where you want to start
Well I mean we are not just forgot the last item,
you you're like hey. What are you ran sizes right, so pity now looks like we don't have rings yet well
We were debating this because the rings are made but doesn't sound
these are my favorite thing. You have to have, or the players deepening the hours before the players is, would have caused a little bit. This
we paid for their owners yet, but you know what type of precedent
elsa owners are usually last to get it. Do you watch sports because, usually Adam usually what happens if they present the trophy to the owner yeah right after the superbowl, where we need to get the eighty dvd players in here all? Don't you guys to, I think weak three and fair fyodor were given the ring.
Ok, we're also unprecedented owners because in the team, is unprecedented, the worst team of
at time time, when a champion I have, I have a photo of the rings early photo. Ok, let me see sir dog on it. They, of course, Maxwell walked out one
those are icy alike.
I, like you, I they got shades of purple that
No, obviously you guys will have your name on them. I don't think we discuss numbers, though, so I don't. I dunno that numbers are coming in to be fair for those listening. It took about three
wants to get they can pass on ring size. How did I just play a shocking? I am a co founder league in and your guys added arctic told began to saw normal.
Yeah regular hands. No, I think I just I said I thought the text I sent you ass. I got Gimme a thirteen and phd a twelfth right, so hopefully they fit if they dont Toby knuckles. We ordered three indifferent sizes, z s wishes so hank, it's one hake should inks and owner.
page should get one year either. We need a double check on that yeah. You should get one the aggregate about hank
look I know now. We can hardly argentine idea. Where are you going the words and billy football and Jan and I've seen now that that everyone's now asking and guess what? Now I don't want, my real it's, what emerges handing them out to everyone? Well, yeah! Well, that's the thing: it's it's! It's! Your guest cheque book
yeah zau, astro industrial. I,
policies and fibre very excited. You ve been very busy, though I feel like you, so you bought
amell. Well, we bought ammo a couple of seasons ago explained, but but explain not like what's happened in the past year with pr you guys have been doing great, like you know, E s, p n, which also happened last year year.
we're like where's where's, the pillow overall in your vision and what the expectations are yeah, because we were walking back here and as our fifth season and ahead of our first season as when it first came on the show. We were talking about the history of professional lacrosse, so there was.
A league that I played in major league lacrosse. We ended up buying them in twenty twenty end of two thousand and twenty after the pandemic, and I and
an integrated one of their teams upon his hands to the cannons
but recently said that is our fifth seas.
at least on air, with e s, p, n. We call back to twenty five years of pro lacrosse history, which is valuable because if we look at
the NBA finals going on is always comparison: two players in the eighties versus players now and teams with axiomatic championship. So
to benefit from that. Some are saying not me, but some are saying you bought that just so that they can play Paul rebel. Highlights that
that's what some are saying. Some are saying that our say, because I just triggered in my brain like because all we're. U highlights media. We have twenty five years of history of when I was the best lacrosse player in the world. Interesting
let us make sure that runs on air and I've been cooked for half time. Second, listen! I would do the same thing of our eu, so smart bargain do another. I don't have a fucking podcast beyond half time, one abc the top ten goals in lacrosse history,
allow wow number a reader actually did this this weekend during the college, father for hours
you know in two thousand seven we play duke we're up six to one him and we
if winning that game, so that this game reminds me of that one yeah, how many titles as you win it at johns hopkins. Two: two! That's nice! Three! Not in the works! We went to a third
we lost. We was at last on the last one chance,
Do you think about that when more than you do the ones I well when I was playing, I would say I do that's very that very athlete rhetoric to bring up the think about the losses more than do the boots. Also true, the act is it. I mean yeah
I want you guys during the playoffs, both hockey anemia, you guess he gets feel it right when you can lose it like mother fuck,
takes probably best answer that want to see it on to game. Seven losses against eight seats at any point,
could be lost in the semi finals.
I don't think so. Never
quarter file waters. Quarters, yes quarters are, are we say right the biggest game to win in college, because you get onto this disproportionate stage of the final thrives like sixty thousand people. Yet never too
that are when you, after you lost, did you think they do?
any interest in the game afterwards like to do care by watching the game afterwards, a to do just think you would be the team that you would have been playing.
Yeah me if you lose the sammy's there, but yet
whereas the english ex round I mean there, are you gotta know, watches gamer you like fuck this. I have no interest whatsoever yet mean think about so penn state lost in the semi stew duke and the incidentally, doesn't every play on any coaches challenge or end of or end of game, and so the duke players foot was all over the crease and so the get the gun
I had been disallowed but because they don't replay they moved on. It was like the world cup in two thousand and ten when France played ireland and got through and ireland was out, and so if you're penn state
I mean you're living the rest of your life, specially the seniors. Basically answering that question is we got hose? What what now it's going along the same hypothetical? What if you in a semi lost by
wendy at rome. Wouldn't you realize what you go out? Namby, like always deaf. We wouldn't want the title right right, yet we match up radiance their aim than this team right. Yes,
To do I mean hake tweeted. Did you know that this attitude of beet nuggets and five? I agree if the if there
wolves had beaten the heat they would have won the title. No straight up, I think hanks right, like the celtics, would have dominated the nuggets. I would change my bet on the celtic. If the wizard who had won fifty five games this year, they would have won the title. That's also a fact, yeah possible. These are all right. You just never know you never know what you get so so semifinal they would have been the favorite. I don't know what jeremy they would not have been fate, they would have been fit. I would not absolutely not because they were,
favoured before the gave seven, so they would not have informed me, give vegas online and
hypothetical line he doesn't know. You're going line is to turn before game seven, so yeah they would
What are you guys think out of employing the heat? What are you
There are more, is hypothetical unease I you know, there's basically eight players in the nba and you
to make a move out, one of them in your chances to win Avellino asea greater than eighty percent tat s, probably true, but to the eight players they do change. There's addition subtractions that a clear list, every single, your suit. It's you
that, if you want to win now, are you just basically have to get lightning in a bottle in the draft? That's right! This is why I love basketball is that the best players
that the balls in their hand whole game right there on the floor,
draws is more like hockey. Where you know you can't really anticipate the flow of the game, and then you
the change in game, your style of play, the coaching in basque, while you can count on X, amount of possessions, xml shots and
and that is to me as a fan. It's more debatable.
More exciting because you get to see those guys, those stars, every game do well or play shitty yeah
and if you go back an mba history, I think to the last
I'm a team won a title where they didn't have a top. Ten guy was probably the pistons, and that team was just very good overall when at when they beat
yeah like every other
ray, I was pretty fucking, know the ought NO the two thousand feet while it oh diana right up. Ten talking about the one, the beat the lakers at the edge of a girl up, so ya, gotta, guided by mid range writ amazon, hamilton, sean printing, that's gonna, yea! You that's kind of it like every other titled team that you look at like they.
One of those guys was the best player or the top ten points.
Pissing, probably had players number like eleven through six line,
as an ordinary, they were glad, but they didn't have anybody the top down the right maria art. So we'd you up
about the city model that are now introducing, so
I just assumed the water dogs, Jeremy, scott, well that that's part two of of progress, so we've gone from six to eight teams. We've gone from NBC d e s, p, n. We have new sponsors on board and we announced last week that we were taking our eight teams to home.
cities next year and one of the huge one right. Then, how do you guys
about. You know sports, especially the pro level in their association with the homework
it's in your smart way. Did it because I think you can't build. We see
with some of the spring. For colleagues like it's hard to just day, one be like. Oh, this is your team. Now you like it yeah now you guys have cement. If you get that wrong, then you're moving people round rhyme monopoly
So what are the city's due? Do we know the cities we we know some
reduce city reveal we can not do
would you toss it even what I saw the segment this week around you guys wanting the dogs in Chicago? It's not really a one, it's more like a demand. Well, as owners, we can also just move the team to chicago tech.
Equally knots, we have a bidding process that we have yet to disclose to ownership groups. That's coming for me to you. Ok,
So there's hammered out my leader here. Use you know how chicago politics, essentially a hurricane rig. The bidding process get lorry online yakking copies gets right. Well, politics, talk, ok, so a stadium is important. Dawn done,
I thought sandra was going to be empty. Sylvia. I asked players to send
be indoors,
you're gonna be indoors. No stance of indoor could be like, like the maybe shrink, the field, a little bit like a middle school basketball jump
Just fine he's my head that with a golf simulator in one of the ends it yet, I could maybe
india, would also have a full fledged media apparatus built in yes right next to the field.
Yeah just do this. Yes, this is new P. Empty studios doubles as one or dogs home field advantage.
when you can play the water dogs is actually three on threeg dig. Will you guys have a pool
no.
You guys have shower
we have had their day,
for they asked for
whose dandy the players we can cut? All these guys.
My guiding I don't demand shit. I've sunday they wanna sana. They love
Santa ok, yeah! Actually, that's actually analysts. They want unconditional love, no,
absolutely not that's a deal. Breaker be one condition. What's the condition if they win yeah, they get unconditional love. Yes, if they're winners, if they win all their games back to back any loss, you lose the unconditional off the table. Owners have to go to every game, that's also no.
Even even when you live and podcast from the yeah yeah, that's also still guarantor. Don't you have like oh one weekend, that's like opening weakened the unifil. I might miss them
we'll know will do owner's representative this week. Anthea owners are woven, ozone abc yeah women.
representative each game. Ok, that's their great against this starting boys, name Adele onward. He will be our own representative, he'll be
easy and I was so easy. Don congrats Dylan are unknown
Wait room sure the up, how great stuff,
blue coffee that fella you enter into me done. That's done
that no robbing models, they want call of duty, playstation grass field instead of turf, hobbled, harwood,
The hardware is gonna, be probably carriers that lady alabaster, while the horn had the obray Unifil sound somewhat quota horses. So we're halfway, there were halfway there, so so this is exciting, though, so how eight cities
and what's it going to are there going to be home? Games are still going to play now or keep yes, there's home games for keeping the touring model because we're still building overall attendance and viewership and such so.
Actually what it looks like is you will host a home game in your market and then your each team gets to do that or the ten regular season games and then there's two availability markets to expand to nice and and playoffs and championship will probably fallen home markets of the
is that are winning are the teams that are like in the home market? Let's say hypothetically just toss this out there. Maybe the water dogs are in chicago right, they're going to live in chicago, they're, gonna practice in Chicago. Yes, I would love the players to get to their home markets. There's going to be probably a transitional phase that we're going to figure out with our players, because they don't know as much as we do where they're going to end
we're still figuring out that we announced that early so that we could engage with our audience, learn more date for more data. That's coming in from yes paean to take him ass or live nation talk to a bunch of people, including our players. Around the prospect of hypothetically water dogs go to chicago,
whose down to live there? What is that be enacted? Marston sports get our coffee. That kind of thing that that kind of thing could be could be a full team of it
that kind of thing is there. We go we're
This is two birds with one stone right here, yet so I'd even want to nanny my kids bone like we could get all the problems
designated drivers on the weak. It could be a lot more work if they are ok mice at my side. So we really that you know that's criteria. One hour get our owners engaged yet were engaged at his watch them work with their players and market.
in writing EL the writing programme, then I'll be engaged about that? Ok, let's get enough yeah! Ok, what about markets that are there are not starters for that
Oh saint, louis right, yet ethically similar? Never your saint Louis lose his arm. Rushmore cities will never about washington. Yet
Can you see would love it?
I support the dogs in DC. Yes also drawn another one that if, if not chicago, we would move to oakland and be the kings of oakland cause they ve lost every team.
In the last five years.
Big marie wanted actually do anything, but we would just say that we brought it. What about our fournier just call California, we move up and down the street
Oh the california, water dogs. We would we
like die. A one hundred now for your water asserts that we have california, washington, dc chicago yeah work. You zoom, eagle, you're, another team thing for me too,
wouldn't honolulu.
Honolulu, be us I am are throwing
There is well in this, like, I think we can. We we have discussed it put. We would definitely be down with a young stout ohio. What Alex
of great misery. Water dogs, yeah, mystery water dogs. You dont know where they are no alaska, yeah. Ok, that's who play their games like three young intermezzo as a kind of like a husky anyways. Isn't it
to mrs require in water dodged. All the countries are as the american wanted us. We yet that's a catch all whose rippling level.
This way makes it when I say fuck, I hate them mohammed assemblies islands,
ass their home home strain and what about what about so we're, probably at it a good guess, fur lacrosse. When somebody watched watched, I would say the canada be a boston
and then, when you ever wash the boston cannons course my man grown up. Do you want
the cave and say we need a new way of your favorite cannon play. You know what I kind of like
peter. You line oriental there's line, and he also told me he really. He was rambo big matt, rambo fan, big kevin, you, candid fan and ryan boil nails are games with jake
So there's three right there you, you know you student. This is just like I'm being serious here. You if word
you're doing the city model, it would
it'd be advantageous to do something like they used to do in, like the mba way back in the day where it's regional draft so like if Chicago got the water dogs yeah, they get at least one note
employer every year. You know what I mean like yeah, so you keep that connection yeah and this may.
Be me trying to get both Cavanaugh brothers, but that's fine, I'm willing to do that. What does that say about drafts in general? I like them when they're rigged, yep yeah, we get first pick every the difference between american pro sports and just call it like global football is the draft, because without the draft you can just acquire
where's when their young and yeah yeah academies, the or even a college, and I think now
and I l happening away. Does that I've? I would push the nba to move in that direction and the
well the mba easier than the nfl, because all like the contact and how difficult it is to play in the nfl. But if you kill a draft, you can just start acquiring these players that are superstars when they're sixteen anyway,
yeah and you thought about doing us nature of yes, snake,
have you draft
also I mean we wanted to get rid of it round. The eighteen does not, as does that is like that on thirty one teams
thirty one up. Thirty one down aid is eight is reasonable. Sounds reasonable and ate in eight allows us to grow
the awareness and the and the the wage profile of our players
what more we at times the more everyone's right lutes
Have you thought about draft order? Maybe fifty bucks frank to take cameo? He decides to draft or every year tat would be,
good idea, just
randomly decides the draft order more memorable year money than fifty. We, we don't even tell him what he's the sign the draft or for you just give him the names of like each captain and he will just rattle and offer you wait
Yes, now feels like a good idea, though it honestly crowd fun for against the fans of each team. For the number one pick and all that money goes to us, the
dun duh I mean you could do. I think it's interesting cause. I understand I've thought about getting rid of of the draft. What that would look like in football and in basketball, it's kind of weird that you take kids coming out of college, and then you tell them okay, you're going to move to the city. This is where you're gonna work.
Don't have a choice in this situation, but now that I'm an owner, I love that what were paying a million new after first, they don't have to sign like lino messy and his family at the sound of barcelona football close enough noise anklets talk about a real quick because, like if you, if you go to college for any other, any other vocation right, you have it
ways of where you gonna go and they're gonna pay you maybe sometimes when well. Well,
point, and then they can put you on loan as well. They are the ones going out of college making millions of dollars, except for professional athletes. No, but some some people, you make hundreds of thousands of dollars and you get to choose where you work, but if, if they, if you got offered to get millions of dollars but told where to work there,
and yes, I'm I'm not I'm not crying for for professional athletes, not being able to use. I'm saying it's completely different from every other thing about american business. I love it and it turns into a morbid
yes, because now you're you're scotty in your acquiring talent, when their young you're helping them develop. Yet they are allowed.
But a college and play you have to pay them on background, you can loan them out to other teams. If you want. I would like, though, for the water dogs to be in a position where we can do the process and actually see it all the way through tank for multiple years in a row to just try to get as many assets and then get like a really tall guy who runs out a gas every single playoffs. I may look I've gotten owners from different
weeks at or ask if they can sit down to meet with you guys how you re about to turn that team around so quickly tat I was, I will never give up. Our secret saw Negri Eric spanish everything we do now
that is actually what one of em is, is criticized. The team we ate obstacle is really the limbs were. The key is to be his hands off as possible, where you don't even watch the gates right
the we put our lacrosse guys in a position to make lacrosse decisions, we're just the owners. Rightly high, good people, Andy Kaufman.
I might have put on the hot seat two years ago. Well, he he felt that he well. He
we weren't playing d. I till I said we we said on the show. We got to take away the d from his name's sandy copeland, like it was ridiculous. How bad we are.
So we're better. Now that we're good we're champions,
big march on the call he everyone's he's been. Let psychogenic Marshall bulgaria has he been. Can it is their room for him to eventually
we like the cabin harlin or Joe buck of lacrosse on the slate regularly on pushing form. Ok,
He loves doing any, no one works harder, yet he
his backtracked. She had three different laminated in owed, stats and team. Qualifiers on stuff is equal.
With a game face. Well- and I don't know you have you here, but when he's about to call across came for you guys, we say on this shell like if you dont tuning, we hope you die. So I guess
pretty good and says it get push highest view games or when jake marshes on the call
there's a lot of the honour wanting to know that he doesn't where pants. When he's on the coal there I haven't seen that, but he, unsurprisingly just
viewed from the waste diabetes, hydrological underwear
and somewhere is that some states have different laws. Yeah yeah, typically just no belt no pants, just whatever god gave him because he is he's.
hot, normally, voice, yeah, oh voice, their economies, really fight.
Was also boy come here tat we really do have a question for you are kind of a serious question as a commissioner. How would you rank the other commissioners if you look at roger godot right batman, yet
and the other once Robert Manson David CERN, so so so I'm I adam Adam silver he's a man he has spent super supportive of the p, ll and and strategic at,
times two online I've never met. Roderick Adele Gary Bettman was just recognised for his career, add at the sports business words and, and he's he's probably the most controversial.
A meme rod, higher goddamn, roger and then that men, but that man was a part of two shrikes link in the nature and he came over from the nba.
so he's got loads of experience, but he's a legal background? Was it batman that the batman era that really started the fans booing commissioners and that's blood over a good deal? I think it started with better
I think it it. It was like when godot started, finding people for everything for literally
like all your socks, ireland, little too low right, ten thousand dollars but
I don't think he does even he's not really controversial
work. Has everyone aids he's he I feel like he has a pretty big pr campaign right now going on yeah he's he's doing a lot more media reason:
where do media but ceiling was also like very aided yeah for how we tell was steroids. Unlike you now
and then and then may I now erika I imagine man come on their show and talking about rules never happen.
would never would never happen and and the and major league baseball's getting so much love right now for doing something that we've been calling for for fifteen fucking years, yeah yeah. No, it's true clock, yeah, they're late to it yeah, but they get correct. We just changed our shot clock a little bit made it a little bit fast,
Well, good l does something that we ve. We ve noticed over the years that we point out every time he will take something away. That is fun and then, when everyone like gets upset he'll give it back and then a black look. I gave it back like when you did the touchstone celebrations. Tat any gave it back and emeralds like fidel, wanted
the jobs you need to do that oldest trick in the book. Take away goals for an entire season take take away every game. Zero zero tie then give it back and everyone's like holy shit, all rebel. We got goals again: that's a lower wages or wages the year before you're going to increase as smart or starches out of nowhere finding people like fifty thousand dollars, because your cleats are too bright, yeah and then be like tell you. What
we'll. Let you do one weekend where you can wear whatever color shoes you want. As long as you don't eat your game check to charity yeah
replays when he did instant replay for pass interference and then was like I'm taking it away. Games are going to be short. What about finding owners were not cool that way, new owners did you say finding or finding
finding one. That's not a no good luck, not good. If you're like me, you know how long it took you to sign a contract commission to make sure his answer to one
anyway. You are young. Are your high honor? We are your boss not to negotiate Alice itself by recent puppet. Your puppet! Ah me, fair them. What we decide on behind the scenes like off the mike says, we usually
get into it yeah. He had that's where it really get started. We have those like knock, knock down, drag out fights, yet the conference room
Sadly, it is. It is cool, though, that you bought the league that used to plan. That's gonna feel good right, like an ultimate flax, yeah yeah. I was good
And they they were, they were difficult man, they were, they were, you guys still haven't seen the documentary that you're in have you or billy saw it.
Billy side. You guys are on hulu right now, pardon my take in you guys.
sickly bringing in the story of mutually the cross and premier lacrosse league, I did see that clip the I did say I got to
sure you guys should watch. I'm always nervous, though, like we were on good morning, america, the other day. Do you guys know that her liver king interview- and it was just a shirtless- sounds like fun?
I never really wanted to go back. I go forward as it was good, but yeah no at that time bring up, because at that time, when we were signing the players over to us, their ownership group just started talking
shit on us. Oh really, an ethics brought an exacting. You don't have a network deal there. They d
have any money? There was one rumour that came out of my can. I went to the superbowl on behalf of a partner yet to be announced. It was gator it at the time and Eric their spent
their money on themselves and then about on the third closures, like you guess, Ben fifty years, the superbowl and unlike what the fuck is this. Turning into yeah. I heard that that was true that there were
Yes, you and it wasn't he's not money. You should, when you get in these, like negotiations that are tough tap us in,
ready to just completely these soil someone online yeah, you can you give us a little, listen knaves, immodest, tweet shit about them. All the time
What are yet we will do
we'll get in the mud for you who write biggest enemy. You dig it in the mud for me that one time
I thought about it. When you took your helmet, often gonna fight rights, yeah right,
It's like that's what it was like. This is weird the guy who took his helmet off gotten. A fight is also the guy. You know putting down the
suspensions, but you are in the right. You you, you did not handle that. You had some one else handle right, which I respected yeah yeah, so I did get in the mud for you.
People are saying: oh paul rebels doctors, but you let someone else handle yeah yeah, just fair iraqi.
Yeah, exactly headed off. It is right that, rather than my mind, not privacy was ever awkward like guys wanted to fight you better. Like he's the commissioner, I don't know if I should get large actually training camp
started. Last week I was ever, fur are for the first few practices and it felt better than it ever has, because I was now two seasons away from playing.
and so even last year after I had retired, it was still a little bit of that stare down in a hallway like sizing, you up type thing which I hated, because I you know I'm not going to come back drayton but may be officially officially retired, Yeah
Maybe there could be a sequel that move just have the championship team sign you every year right before the championship get right before the year, the unjust, the likes the output wave extend
covers a few more weeks. Yet any of my office even get like fifteen titles and history, like I'm the go look at any rate.
I would be sick, we have since
commissioner, do you think, would do ok, I'll check it out for drivers? I have. I have one last question for you Paul in this
in grey pl coming back season, five yea check it out training camp started. We have billion jake in training camp right now, june, third and fourth saturday and Sunday, at one p m, both games on a b c. Yes, yes, water dogs play at one o'clock. Yes, yes, against chaos on sunday, yes, we have eight a b c windows, love it. I love it and we're trying to figure out where to bring the water dogs. We had some what our director of marketing sent me and for for you guys and all of your listeners. It's water dogs come home dot
if you want to have a say, ok in where the team go about which market wants DC chicago california, where else the youngest down young stout, alas,
alaska, and then america, let's drawn afghanistan right. Let's just see, let's
it gets about. Let's just see here I mean p. Tat would be
be it, though, throw little wrinkle in your league matches flying kaboom for, inter alia, seals are asking a lot of your lives out into two navy seals, also known as one or two yeah. That's true us! You know. I saw my last question robot question promo code. Take twenty percent first purchase are each albeit cicada, com to use its poles
but he's joggers in shorts shorts when you're gonna see piilau this year, where he rode back
all summer long. This is the most important thing you need to get us bilbil check on p empty. You promised right. It's time you tell us.
Who tell bill wherever he wants us to be time place?
you don't care will be the hook lean into this one. Yes, I also so what's in it. For me,
I will relate outage eyes on the we made a deal last year when you're on the show we said that come to gain
you go to a game,
It will ensure the ornamental, though it was like flying you guys, bye, bye,
private airline automatic video. We will. We will be in attendance for an entire weakened of games if bilbil check will be there and we can interview bilbil check at the turn at the games. What am I,
wait headway organ just be anywhere out, yet we don't have to do that. We would like it doesn't have to be a full weekend and we
the energy labelling check, if he's not like, we can be given a greater role in our individual and here's. What I'll say and you want him in person in person, and I will care more. I will ramp up my care. That would be an incredible pike,
Yes, it would so we don't have to build a game yeah and we don't have to go to a cave, but you he would let that happen,
We will go to one game, we're going,
our aim and we will care significantly more a water dogs game.
sure- and we will care with you- you're missing the care part I'm takin mike
from zero to know now I know that's why they
for unconditional love, yeah, I'm willing to they win
I don't want a promise too much. I mean I can actually maybe speak for myself in my area, but we are in designing the new studio like we can. We can. We could put some signage up, yes, laundered ordered might be the dogs mural yeah,
mural
we are a small mural.
Pocket size, mural, yeah, it's like a sticker will get a sticker on the wall. There will be a stunt, draw a picture of a dog and a post. It note and put it behind me. I don't see the water dogs helmet here now that we're up
sticking up repeals the germans. Reviewer. That's billy took that right here, but on the comparative go phd
coming to my owners, jacket and where this I've got out even seen that everyday cause you're on the owners club right, I'm not in the commission club. Yet while its
have you get something on the wall I know? What's? Let's
like? Also our work on that throughout the off season right
Now she asked, if the austrian today right now to work on that right now, really this off season there
what policies and yet yes, right now we will go right now, it's gonna, be it will be the start of grit weak. It would be incredible, will ask it lee
three across question: what is the ring ceremony? He will he will definitely top
bout lacrosse? We will ask him lacrosse stats, guarantee guaranteed, ask about lacrosse
he's only been on one other podcast, which one yours
since two thousand seven we played duke
We were down six one and we won the championship gets a self call on he's been on my podcast okay, so he knows how to do a pike ass. We take great our awful about it, though, why?
was about five or six years ago, and it was a gal do it and- and he was so, what is podcast restart?
the microphones. So now you knowing? How did you we're gonna? Listen that now he knows I now in us now. He knows these products we will
We I mean it would be better to have to go through this guy birch. That's why
yeah, we gotta. Whenever I gotta, do you guys, but maybe take burst out for dinner. I've heard about birds, no problem
he's a legend. I regularly legend ike. I bet you he is heard this park guarantees annulment, plays it constantly his walk around the boom box, and can I have a conversation with the crafts their investors in the piano
you guys. You're owners we should make us happy. I entered owner, will talk to yes do how about when he's done coach in the edifice which piilau team. That's my only easy question
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do some movie reviews in the coming weeks, and we started this week with blood support blood sport.
Classic nineteen eighty eight
should movie with jean claude vandam, actually, the movie that started the muscles from brussels. This was his
we're starring role here. Things like twenty eight new movie, very good. Looking guy but blood support what his french, the muscles from brussels brussels is: france, belgium,
close enough waffles now trying to figure out this? This,
getting or get into the knows. This was of honesty.
At about him. I know you talk about him. A lot is a little bit before
A time for this is my first J b c movie and he is Jane who now J c Viti
jason is avian and it is awesome. I'd forgotten programmes in this movie in fifteen twin
yours, it's better than when I saw it when I was younger it is.
Fine wine gets better with age. The up. What I really like about this movie you now they have the back del test. I'm pretty sure, that's one where, if you watch
movie and two women, have a conversation with each other that isn't about a man. Then it passes the bechdel test yeah with this one. There should be a van dam test where there are more punches than there are. Words said during the movie and yeah, and it passes
the flying colours, it's incredible from the very start to the end, its just every
that you want out of a cheesy eighties axiom of its the best
It is a. It is the the thing I love so so little description of the movie for people who didn't watch it, but you should watch it on match dot com, it's a it's a classic! It's it's! A
mandatory watch. If you like it,
movies, it is frank juice
who's in the army, who,
was was
trained as a young child by Tanaka
to knock his son, actual son wilder's couple things happened to tanaka: they had some flashbacks tanaka, just casually dry
unlike my first family, yet we live in hiroshima, whoops and that wasn't good. What do you say? I've been there,
there's a few things, the the scenes with the kid, the kid actors, when you like me, no help
enoch, the sun knock a bullet in the hug, some of the worst acting of all time. That's what makes a great that's a great sign of a of a cheesy movie, the kid
acting was was horrific.
You are also the rare giants giants fanny as every school giants hat and a new york, china, jersey, has also just mars, pointed out. That's the MIKE France S, my princess. If they ever get together. I actually looked up that jersey on on the new york giants that he was wearing do
the kid is wearing a brian colleges o, which I hope we are given the shady access. Yes,
right off the bat
First met him in the first shot. First person they showed was a man
doing karate and I just had the feeling of like I bet you, the students
twenty five year. He looks so much older, like everyone that was was be young and his movie just looks
way older than made, maybe that
it's me being older now, that's the eighties, but I was like these people are supposed to be like younger than I am. Then they all look like they're, thirty, five eighties. If you were twenty nine years old, you would look like you are sixty yeah it also.
this movie is so great because it is
The easiest movie to understand they telegraph everything
foreshadowing is like it's you over the head with foreshadowing, like the
committee having the sun
ACA son die and then
damn has to go train what's
come and get ready for the committee
the scene, where he's like finally
training, and he sets the
able with the food, the blindfold and then catches to knock senecas punch.
blindfolded you're like who I'm in mid ass might come back in handy. Mrs tanaka was leaking yes, yes, all useless leaking you. If you like montages. This is the movie for you three eggs
indifferent montages in there I like when they get to hong kong,
is there they got so he gets trained by tanaka,
then he's leaving eat he, basically what a wall from the army in the first like five minutes to go to
one con to fight in the committee, which is an underground fight to the death to find the greatest fighter in the world. Yes,
and when they get to hong kong. That's when things really start to kick off, can you get to meet the other fighters from different parts of the world and its basically like street fighter?
or like mortal, combat the movie
mortal kombat was basically asked me. So it's literally pretty much the same as but but data would better in in blood sport. But what
yet the hong kong, its ever its fighters from all around the world, and there are there also
very stereotypical about the countries that they come from. One concern a bad start. Yeah very, very. I think we can all agree that with one unreality Alice wildly was ever in a movie.
cocoanut seen at the well,
But you know who are talking about aig yeah yeah, the
the saudi arabian guy was my fate.
Because he was very clearly just asian yeah. What he's was wearing a saudi arabia s headscarf
it's like ok, this guy. This bad guy is now trying to kidnap the woman reporter and then vandam shows up at the barneys like
she's, not your property. You can't claim ray. Tell you what let's gamble
I went and she's my property yet eighty that port at the corner truck all time and he had the saudi arabian guy's name- is hosting its authority. Arabia should put together. I mean if they love blood sport, this kind their business model. These days they should do a big asked international fighting, try, china
yeah. Was it just me or was? Was I his body just Ben Roethlisberger? Oh right, yeah ray jackson and it was on brand when his first scene is like sexually harassing the woman on the bus and then
vandams like we're gonna be boys.
yeah, and it's also great because in like these eighties action movies,
there is usually a love angle which vandam has with the reporter who the reporter just basically was like. I want to get. The committee also lets fuck and maybe you'll, let me in,
what they are, but there's also like a very heavy
hetero love connection where, when they see
playing a video game together they look at each other. Like that's bro
I did him into NACA, like I wrote that multiple times he basically has sexual tension with everyone- yeah, oh yeah. Well, that's van HANS Van damme is so hot that everyone wants to fuck his children in his room. Getting ready for the coup mccain is doing the splits on that like elevated platform, even the military police that are, after him in hong kong he's got sexual tension without that that was one of the greatest chase scenes of all time.
Damn so easy at the committee. He goes through the
round there's the army
We were led to believe that that frank dukes is this incredible.
soldier that they need to get back a great asset for the: u S, army, they never address outbreak as ours hours
kind of wasn't paying attention, maybe in the very very beginning work they did a quick explained her, but I was like what is he
to get back for like what is they don't ya, get hurt? They invested in one case, a noble cause, he's gotten its eight one. One one friend can take out entire sub got yes, yes, so they need him back. They can't haven't getting killed and he was like edward wasn't. It
like mopping the floor. Now
But he's he's the best of the best he's always on standby. Great movie he's like an a bomb like you have to have him around in case. You need them, but they so the military police chase him
maybe the greatest chasing of all time they chased through this the streets of hong kong. They probably cover like five miles. We,
entire chase, the middle
police is twenty feet. High vendor, like he's, always tear her. They they. Never he never opens gap. He's playing with them is poor with them the railroad.
craig montage and then we get
back to the committee.
We obviously have ray jackson. His love of his hetero love affair gets beat bad
by Chong, which again another forty four shadow. When we're not when ray jackson was like
I want you Chong charlie, and he also said I. This is one of my favorite parts of these cheesy movies that they have to make sure that, like halfway through the movie, they say the title the movie can cause it.
they're watching the fights and rage? Actually, just tourism is like that's why they call they called blood sport,
I wrote my notes that alike lightbulb went offer me yeah with it when he said that I was like yeah.
That's why they call puts up ahead. I had no idea why, until during the sport there was blood yeah,
a jungle, LEO's john leak,
the guy crazy.
raccoon would tell that he kills another guy in this committee, maybe the craziest packs of all time, all jack there there his pacts,
and downward towards his knees. That's all
So that's all man. He also has strongly all time villain because he has one single line: the entire movie. You are next, that's it
Only time we hear talk everyone's
Turning on him because he's killing guys for justly
kevin where two guy, like you he'd just did, but they did ads
the kills. A guy get silent
The crowd stands up. They turn their back
that just goes back to fighting or yes, they dont, let anyone the outlets for a thing you come on. You sign up for blood sport with the understand that you might die. That's what makes it so alluring. So then we get to the final scene was John coveney, inverse chung lee, and this is crazy.
strongly cheats.
Blinds vandam. Thankfully,
we found out early on the vandam. No is train, blindfolded, never saw
I'll come back event m ends up winning
way. Where we can. We can we the I mean, I guess you could say that's what they call was poor put but,
spider holes in the bowels like that was a cheap. Shall I dont think hague knows where the complex hey? No, I
No I've! U ailing human! You can do it in blood sport to get blood.
You you're alive. Also reality. Did you fast forwarded too that the championship
I thought it was a little bit of a scumbag. Lowell cheap shot,
as did the split and punch the guy in the nuts to advance yeah. But that's bloodsport. You, you ain't! A model runway- I don't know you you, you knock them out, or they say matej, which is uncle. I don't.
Like what hanks, due in the pacific ocean of blood sport tanks go into the hawaiian just like they might all be flood blood sport, it's a fighter
I mean Chung. We
beat a guy up unconscious and then in full
the entire audience snapped his neck and kill them.
And now you're worried about a fucking nuts they had. I guess
I am, I knew you say its bloody war.
No rules.
So vandam is applied. It is it possible to hear a punch coming.
at well yeah for him? I think prevent it. Yeah see yeah. He said the table whatever hank you're, just you're anti bloodsport trust. Just I just don't know why it's called bloods, you don't know combat sports, but Van damme.
In speech strongly the greatest champion of all time,
lending re jackals, the hospital, a nice
love you man.
you don't like Kyler hands borough when he is bloody and like screamin yeah, he looked exactly like thailand finding the beer he doesn't like he finds like his is his surroundings. Even though it can't see you
was that my favorite guys in these types of movies are, though the task guys
and you see him in martial arts to like demonstrations, their entire jobs to run at steven seagal, yeah and then just get taught by him and then do like three flips, because the power of his finger.
Was so strong that it like launched you into orbit yeah. This movies filled with Tosca, yes, is thrown around left and right. They love that shit. The best that the best one I added in the note, the guy he screamed.
van kicked him once and then it kicked him a second time and he
flew out. Oh yes, slant of bee flew into the abyss. Yet, as you said, I was a fight that was a great those laugh out for such an art. In being a task I feel, like you have to be a toss guy for five years.
till you get promoted to being together gets a beat the shit out of yes. Yes, I also there's also,
like scenes. This is really the mark of a great,
It is actually moving their scenes that feel important. They just don't have any importance and never get brought up again when
Hussein loses gold tooth,
and they zoom in on the guy who's cleaning up the man who steals it near like without combat know that it
Nothing going up. The cat was completely dad enough, no relevance whatsoever, but they did the hitchcock zoom they too. In the beginning, like that's, that's a sign of an
come only when there is doing to an angel. I am as much as possible. Yeah there was. There was some cement
based on that. I found where looked up about this move, because I wonder the history behind blood
orton and political reception. Oh, I am looking I've gotta. It's got a good score on run tomatoes. I think it's like eighty seven or something
maybe that's imdb that I saw
forty six approval rating on rotten tomatoes
the reviews that came out at the time was
basically said what was it. It was like this.
The cliche movie. Ah, there it made money, it made good money, but
yeah, oh yeah, beyond, but beyond vandams athleticism blood. Sport is a key, virtually plot, less exercise in axiom act.
Ruby recycling disagree with. That will that's it
beyond patrick nor homes, the chiefs on a very good forgetting yet, but so this week by
max than like this move? We will hear from him at the end. I do
see. I saw this movie like twenty years ago, and I was explaining this.
and I think you probably what do the same thing fifty where at the end the movie ends
and they reveal the bizarre based on a true story near its frank. Do that he's got he's, got world wreck
the fastest fastest, knock out three point, two seconds fastest. Kick so
two miles an hour most consecutive knockouts in a single term at fifty six, so when I was,
This twenty years goes like this is fucking cool, bad ass,
that's, not the internet. I just believed it.
That I watched it and I went looked it up and for
dupes is the greatest lie or fall time yeah all of his fate, so it when they interview just screenwriter, do that marine writers are mad. That, like this, is theirs
issues with the script. Based on what frank
you stole me said it is based on.
Story except frank
lied about his fighting record
well as the existence of the entire turnover as well is it is a military record. Real images like the entire thing is made, is the greatest liar of all time like. I actually think we should make a what they did make two three more blood supports, put vandams item. They need to make up making of the blood sport
so fred dukes is a guy who was in the marines, and he
I left the marines, so he he there's a basically is all based on this one article that was written about him in nineteen. Eighty, where the author feels like they just believed everything. He said,
He said that he was
in the cia. He was blowing up like
he'll depots in iraq and like going like all,
covert operations this year.
can. I was like
None of this is true. He there. Actually, if you will,
in his military.
Recording nineteen seventy eight. He was
institutionalized for having like bad thoughts and like completely making self
I've ever heard of inhaled sure yeah I get bigger.
to see. I would acknowledge that stuff right was drove. He's basely use the cia being like a covert like organization to to make his career even pay.
Where he's like yeah well, they erased all the records yeah. So of course, they're not going to tell me this correct. He had so he I like frank dukes, simply because
when he gets caught the lie he just lies even more. They asked for
where the committee
sort is, and he said I I had it
but I had to sell it pawn it to pay.
ransom for a bunch of kids that were kid.
By somali pirates, so we just made that way.
that should be a movie too. He also produced he produced the trophy and
In a couple years, every produce a trophy a guy came forward for
the trophy shop in the for san fernando valley was like yeah. He bought that me. Him sounds like he should get. His ass kicked
also tanaka,
is the name of a bad guy in a pond movie is
we just beat up all this stuff. They like to try to find its knocker didn't exist. I think it happened. They they try to find all the stuff,
there also like
moments where they found other people who were at this alleged committee and one of them
like the I was there. I saw frank tutsi. Not everyone out is awesome like
years later he was like yeah. We had a falling out. He just told me to lie about all of that and none of the nap listening
I choose to believe frank too.
I used to so I choose to ignore all the facts. I just want to think
actually happened in that a guy
looks a lot like john clod vandam took out of six months.
If blowing up oil refineries in iraq for the cia yeah to go over there and just beat the shit out of everybody in the world, I don't even care about like what like bloodsport is an awesome movie. Who cares? I like frank, dukes, the liar, because he just can't stop lying. He he hears a couple
what does oak a little bit like Billy woods, yeah. True we dealt with someone like this. Yes,
He saw this committee sword in a failed attempt by freedom of abode of orphans
who me later rescued from the pirates he stopped.
plot to assassinate stephen seagal. These are all frank. You
what he is. I love that because he's basically saying like I am, I I'm so powerful of martial arts.
that I'm the only one who can defend Steven seagal, yes and then and then, ah, that the discrepancies in his martial arts history are the work of fabrications by his rivals and
I've read of stories about this guy last night. You fuckin rules. Could these just so delusional
Apparently he gonna fight at a like career
He like expo with another,
body guy any guys aspect and then-
africa has asked why
people saw it happen, heroic efforts to expose asked he's like bullock, I had brass knuckles, any
punch me had stirred. It never was like,
Well, no, we saw it and that's not what happened with the tape like lebron getting dunked on at his own camp. It's awesome. He just
he's lying about everything. Everything is making up.
he's the frank dukes. I mean
canadian heroes from canada, but still canadian american, enjoys
Canada served in the united states military. He move. Imagine how done, though somali pirates arts to kids-
somebody and then to make the ransom phone calls to the most dangerous person on her. Yes on earth.
literally add move, so I give blood's border fide balls. I love this
We always love this movie. I do want to see the remake where they just figure out all frank juices lies, and I, too,
making of blood sport. We should get him on the shoulder and then make a story
Clearly, there is a business model for like
listening to a stories is truth and anarchy movie about em like who cares. It's right he's got a great imaginating, the area.
I listened to an interview that he did and he just he's gone.
he's gonna get a little liver king, get where you ask him a question. He just like answers, a completely different question. I get us
point sources that that's not brought him to Monsieur Japan when he was sixteen years old to get
trained as a ninja. We haven't had enough movies about ninjas. Recently,
Nobody does ninjas anymore, three ninjas great movie
It was a five out of five for me. Eyeballs I enjoyed it thoroughly. I was saying earlier I did. I did procrastinate watching a little bit of a little bit late and if there was an option to do it on one one and a half or one and a quarter speed, I probably would have done it
but there wasn't
and I really enjoy aid and of being very happy like I was. I was laughing. I thought the lady
whose job it is to expose how heinous this event is. When you
blind and jumping around, she was laughing having the title relate ass, like she went from firm. This is a heinous event that I need to expose and blow up to like rooting for jobs.
Van damme in laugh, yeah having a good time blood sport and for the four
ben, kicks in a row and credible
successive, what a move to help, what a move? Their kids
three, but you can you can? How can you draw power three, nor, like foreigner, old
Do you see him training when when?
naga. How damages the torture chamber with ropes that that principle
If the dowager stop, that, must I dunno when princess bride came out, but that was that was a. That was a thing of that time: yeah, because that was the same machine yeah. You know what stretcher, then that is good about that.
Is on max it. You can watch it while you're doing other things on your phone too, and this is the perfect movie to watch in the back
Anything else is also good, also asha, frank tubes, because I did forget to mention that he is much like laid an extra three
Twenty winds in one loss and then he actually crew.
Interview, like ten years after saying, is actually threerd? Twenty nine wins, zero losses
How did they had it meant that one lost get out there in the first place? Will he said it
You said his record relieve me: what do you want to evoke one loss and seven draws where it's like
Similarly, I should like hey, if you throw in the one loss, people gotta believe he definitely miss
It just changes record to
the three hundred twenty nine zero
also worthy of such a force whittaker park as yeah yeah, rowers redeker. Just great,
falling into the to the water, also them again down them.
Journalists like
they're. All mission was to stop this thing. They
to the event or like you know what
cancelling or simple its weak? Nobody does not violence. Why didn't they had? He taught it because its blood spot, you can't stop supporting, showed up nothing, radio to fly to the sporting event to stop him from fighting they get to the fight and
sit front row and are like cheer up. I guess he has sent me once you get caught up in the show. I get it. I know I don't worry. I don't think you can. Do you think that journalists was going to stop. Let's go with what an article that was going to come out four months later, because its nineteen eighty eight, I just thought I was foolish. He was laughing. I goes like here you're supposed to be to have this stance of like you just watch the guy die
and then she said there like always blind ha ha. There's guide us
two guys neck twenty minutes ago. Know what they're signing up for
I get. It shows that the blood borne in someone's gotta run. He knows you like stop the fight and I don't think he's got a concussion we gotta
you gotta know what it was their labor in the eyes of the young lady plummeting protocol chunky was big time. They pay of tea would have made an investment in short,
Yeah, probably like a minus ten thousand killed, some guys hank
max you hated it.
I find it wishes. I owe me aided. It is
one of those movies that
you have on your on your phone and yearn, and now you
you lose, the plot you'll lose weight supplies and, like the smell of the old man, fight each other. That's why I mean you know that plot, but it's like you're, not you're, not paying attention. The I mean it is. In that sense it was like. I can look up watch on fighting, I do love
I kept saying that I love ogre from revenge.
Yeah average actually does look like tat is better off than roger mix with mankind. Here he's great, he goes out just ridiculous.
He goes out to that girl that girl, the buses I've ever been with a big man the hour. I think if this was, if this movie is more realistic, he would win yes
bigger, smashing everybody celebrated too early. That's thou is immense and then chung leading to
leader or celebration foreshadow what exactly rigour sure they get if we did blood sport today, if the saudis put together a big investments and we're gonna do the last one to live tour and we could bring people across the globe to compete. I think I still think stevens call my when yeah agreed or jean claude to this day, yeah aren't rags
why she real frank, dukes, that's true having he would
He's never lot. You would say that he was never lost, love that they found the trophy with just a random trophy shop is like a beard.
guy rule, he's kind of a legend actually in a different form
reason than what like he's alive,
because he
lied about all of a sudden. They made a fucking movie about pecan wood. If everything he said was true and you're just buying into the fake news media as true not like, there are people out to discredit him, because the cia, if they created super soldier like that they could not acknowledge it, that sure don't want our enemies to know that we've got a dozen frank dukes that are stationed in fort bragg right now.
ready to be deployed at the drop of a hat they had, he produced a picture of his metals and stuff and the army was:
like, your marine, you can be marines, he said he had a medal of honor and he had a medal of honor from the army and all.
Of his words, were out of order. So
he was like
Well, I dunno why they put it that way and then, like a couple of years later, is like well as a costume was wearing like it was a halloween
I wasn't my actual I was. I was actually putting on a halloween costume of a soldier who's less decorated than I am in real life. He just didn't know how to put on all those inferior awards. You just keep putting up shots. Yeah, it's crazy frank, dukes, come on the podcast. Just ask him all the questions see how crazy be an alright. So
What's your firefox back sarka go check out max now, calm, awesome,
Ass, a movie go one idea what to do next week, we're doing
thirty, eight at the garden right
Jeremy, Lin, Lin sanity, sports sports blood sports,
I had an idea what, if we did, what if we did bloodsport but at a rough and rowdy
but we did. It was international roughen, rowdy yeah, like the bat find
as human on the planet. Doubt that's why they call plots. Bore you still them
I would erode my notes. Light bulb went off yet when are you still don't that's what it cannot or do not get it
ok, let's you fire first
check out max. I call me a thirty eight. The garden next week, review on Friday show very excited germany, lent, ok, hank, farfetched,
last night Lee
there. I went to and want to drive and range and
twenty five minutes away from me. I've got enough that I've memorized the route. I don't even need the directions and
on the way back the road to get.
To the highway needed to get. I was closed for construction, so it took me to bear a detour. I pulled out my phone put in
and then I don't even look at it. I was enlarged clicked. It was listening to google
actions tat. It was thirty,
it's a way as academic sense drove
the minutes. It took me to the same, address odd in like deep in new jersey like a different town hate when that happens, and it was because I was on a detour, so I wasn't you know. I didn't really know that I wasn't going the right way. I was just kind of you didn't go this way:
all directions, don't don't look up and then
I thought I was getting close to your finance when I was like. I don't feel like. I know where I am at all
yeah and then I look it up and I was a solid, fifty minutes away from my destination, which is that in total, like twenty minutes away- and he has ever done that in an uber yeah but you're so ashamed as you're getting climbs talked about on the show or don't say anything: I've done that and actually in new jersey before I've gone someplace,
and then I realized, when I was maybe five minutes way. I'm forty minutes away from where I need to be
just so ashamed that I was like
go here. This is that you can. Let me out here
Yes, I got over the brooklyn bridge wants as like. Well, I
go to manhattan. This isn't locker out. You feel like such an eighty can't say anything there. He can't
so that was I'd there. Now is a long one detour. Ok, fifty
my firefox the week is that I forgot about darts yeah
about. Dart starts as this weekend I've got tickets,
wait so I'm going to go with boys to go, see darts at msg going to be incredible, but what's the fire face, while the the big fire fest hank is that when it starts time when it darts weekend, all the boys get dressed up to guitar to put on and
and costume you wear track suit. I feel your data day outfits, like kind of all right. I've got a deadline. Areas live another zero women wearing. I lack blue in red. No, I'm not I'm wearing blue dark blue rollback pants. There are great
it's from when mountains or bowser dark blue yeah get your eyes fixed.
he's a dark was somebody might orange and even if they are black and wearing black and blue, which
totally. Nor in red brown was supposed to wear orange shoes are,
can. I was saying where we re doing created the. I have something for you that, because I was gonna go to darts, yet I realize I just can't max also is not going to darts socks.
He let everyone dounia, why not health housing?
I dunno how this is coming up on this show he said he's going to go to the I've been defending myself for the past twenty four hours. I've had this planned for the last six months that I'm going to darts yeah. I know you're going to.
Did to take my body unwilling to hand over the title of as dart father. Do you know I already bought
Given me this now I bought my ticket, I know, but I'm
You dont father did the title of, don't you might take it max? Yes, a knockout went on.
because it's a long doesn't like darts and you're, like I'm. Not a needle had a moving this weekend, you moved on once no
I have all the things living out of his car on living out of my car right now and I need
paying so much money for my car to be in the city I need to take. All the things are in.
Car drop it off at my parents and were recording late tomorrow. Are we
interview late tomorrow, I'm not gonna get down to like tat,
If you like, with a lot of words to say me, don't like dark now, that's how was he doesn't like Darcy more pfc? I was not going to go to darts, but I really can't spend
did by a short that you can wear its double excel.
and it says it's got to dart ports where the breasts are. It says, stop looking at my boards,
Oh god only makes sense. I like I honour, I repeat my like the words leave. No one says ports, its put its great am I
I've got the office right now. I'd like you to wear that sure I've got
I wonder where wear might work to search cause. I've got the one that says I got my ass eaten at the bass pro shop pyramid in memphis tennessee. That's not that's a pretty good! That's a pretty good shirt though, but you gotta wear a dark shirt. You can have my dark shirt,
it's gonna look great! So you as our
I don't know knowing this terms going, I just don't think I can. I have a wedding for a year
you're going. Miss starts for when I may still go, but I'm gonna honest. I probably I've got an extra ticket last year when I went I put in that future think he was a day of and a cached eight months later, so you want money. Can you give me a pic for dark?
bingo runner psmith yoga. Their arrival psmith ip michael finger, rehab max,
our pants does not work. Charts for darts pants get have fired, darts, pants hate, you have those pants and make you look like,
transferring data heads a cartoon train. I actually got rid of those
only. I should give them to you max injures your pants make the move.
Oh yeah, the pants are already in storage, but if I give you a pair of pants that I brought you can puke on them real, quick and then I'll just wear those yeah sure, but I never puked on
that's actually cheerily vague new peut into the water bottle and is under the water bottles in a little bit about here. Ok, that's very sorry! I buy firefox peaceably twenty pcbs rain. I felt full for twenty four hours card in four darts
Also there is a video of me and I look comically fat and burgers pulling me again.
I'm shooting organism pick out of here, I'm shot yeah, I'm ready,
a motel aroma. Do it minimal caught and then I'll get off me
then again it all back. What's the matter you cool sculpt could coup
culture. Then some absolute coming, Charles barclays do
maduro, whatever he's gettin skinny, is far
bogus corps. Was you don't look fat? My brother, you are fat, make sure you
wreck, those who say the wrong thing, it's angles now,
it's of no. There was also the problem someone's like I've, never seen the videos and they're like I've, never seen someone look fat in a black t, shirt, others, but he hasn't. It is really banks
I wasn't warehouse. Bangs did red six like
you're wearing one of those skintight like under armour shirts, but it's not it's so bad. My belly was so far I couldn't suck in my belly because I had so much riding on it and then my tits and average and shut up senate on august
I didn't see this video. Like poker. I saw boogers cool, but the looks like you're wearing a you're going surfing. Okay, hank we got it. We got the picture, doesn't understand blood sport. That's why the cop was for it. No, you don't know why couplets yeah
yours epoch, do it. Why not? What did you get to skinny, though I was
he had to Jonah hill. You know what I was going to do is on the jewels epic, for, like two months drop like twenty five pounds.
And then just slowly getting it back.
Ok, let's get it doesnt will now be biscuit.
For the summer and then football season, I'll bet you're right, but I'll always get fat again, but just I need my problem is I I am incapable of getting skinny again. So I need
help. I must say some nice about chicago,
will there aren't as big as I thought they'd be, but the thing is like it.
Ass, the board there, like five percent bigger.
Everyone which is healthy because new york, everyone's fifteen percent
small gather sheikh heather, those new model,
in new york. It's people jaywalking jaywalk. Ok,
Why? Because you know sometimes in new york, it's common. All new york is like. There is no right like when the cars are coming, people cross yeah. I did that in Chicago. No one followed me and the people on the other side where I was walking towards were giving me a look, and I was like oh yeah yeah bad people might not jaywalk. All new york is just like boss.
Two. If you gotta williamsburg, like people, don't even recognize cars
Also just walk in front of your car. You run out your drive. You run into that one person at every crosswalk that, like you, step out a little bit into the street, while you still
dont walks on
somebody goes out like two yards further than you yes and stands in waves like in the middle of traffic, yes or the right to choose,
I actually had a very a walking city in america. An extra fire fest I was went to the central park zoo with my kids on saturday and we were leaving and
My son, like stepped a little bit into the street, and I yelled at a very forcibly kept back on the sidewalk, and there was a
ps delivery woman standing next to him and she looked it. She was like,
what did you just say to me? I was like weight that wasn't she's a hose yelling at her when you, when you start off with, I went to the zoo and my
I saw yeah got too close, so I thought we were going to have another harambe such central park zoo all the fucking animals are asleep yeah. It was terrible, are all fucking, asleep, more realists new macs, some about darts, sucking yeah. I just got tagged in a clip there
I'm getting shots from all directions about not going to be there's ears and there's. Another show that talking about me knock on the door cannot be the temporary jarred father,
I just said I want you to have the title of the door for what's involved being derived from just have to warm illegally launch, while you have to worry, you killed just give it up and combat it's ok, so I know I'm not taking you back. Dna garnish they're gonna, like the bushwhack, like lacquer, like the guy from a high state that leaves the band out yeah. Ok, yes,
I have to say I'm very fired for darts and adjusted, and then
have to start a chant going in to the state
just saying, darts out via doctor star star star. And what are you bet on how to start second in the championship that that would have to be hank passing over that torch out
Are we not no? No wait, not second hank betting on something that took a year yeah,
true how you air, but aid, but it ahead, but it still
so you have to go, make a winning bet I'll go make winning the bet max. I I have one more dirt related question for you cause. You seem to be an expert on it, one hundred and eighty. How does wrong should I be going to dar too drunk too drunk
if you think you're too drunk. You need to be more,
if I like to think I'm new drunk, I'm not drunk enough to that direct.
during my way, others, although I'm a little worried its turn into a whole thing. This year
going to be there's going to be chaos everywhere. It's scott! It's going to be it it's too mainstream for me. That is also charged before everyone else: dart yeah and now you're you're just hopping on the bandwagon, but you're still the dart father bought tickets. Last year I can go yeah, alright, great
no see everyone, monday
numbers. Sixty nine till he was so mad.
if he does the thing about Billy as he genuinely gets angry yeah. If somebody takes his little sex joke bar right, it's great. We gotta start doing that all the time we gotta take it every time, because it's it's, he was
like pre raging yeah, the studio like because it's crazy, seventy sixty nine. Ah, what did you take? I took eighteen chick max. Twenty. The
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