Bill Belichick is out in New England and Hank is sad. We talk about the exit, his legacy and where he'll go next (00:00:00-00:27:47). We also talk about the wild 2 days that saw Pete Carroll, Nick Saban, and Belichick all leave their jobs (00:27:47-00:32:40). Super Wild Card Weekend picks and preview for every game Saturday and Sunday (00:32:40-01:14:11). Andy Staples joins the show to talk about Nick Saban's retirement, best Nick Saban memories, and who's going to take the job next (01:14:11-01:47:04). Aaron Schatz from FTN Fantasy joins the show to talk about DVOA, which he invented, and how it applies to teams in the playoffs. Weaknesses and strengths for every team and who he thinks is over achieving and under achieving (01:47:04-02:19:33). We then finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:19:33-02:29:10).
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pardon my take there's an abortion sport I welcome aboard my take today is fry eight january twelve
and bilbil check has been fired, p carol has been fired, nick Sabin has retired
There are a lot of really good. Goats is available at their had a really good coaches with not a lot to do. It's still was shocking. The fact that it happened- bang, bang, bang, it was p carol. Last time we talked you guys was on wednesday, but peak yoga fired on Wednesday morning, Nixon
and retired Wednesday night Bilbil.
got fired on thursday morning, just
things happen in threes. Three of while Nixon
it's the best college coach of all time. Yes, Bilbao checks, best nfl, coach, Volta, yes and pete carroll's, probably a top fifteen football coach of all time, maybe even top ten I'd say- maybe he's probably top twenty college coach of all time and top twenty nfl coach about his festool, his fourteen all time,
and if he wins he's got to national titles in college football yeah, I would say, if you like, put it all together, P. Karel has an argument for being a top ten football coach of all time
yeah and run verify that's about rushmore of coaches right there I'll tell you what so Henry.
Hank was getting on us fifty because he thought that the fake news media,
ourselves,
florio, as we ve been reporting consistently all year as we were born and consistently. He was like what
on monday happened in bill
well check. Still the coach of the new england patriots and he was kind of needling us like hey. You guys are wrong, I'm not going to asking for an apology, but I it wouldn't hurt to say you are right, yeah just once
All I did was ask when it was gonna happen. You guys have an answer from you
we sent thursday morning. I think we don't allow predictions. We set some point this week.
I I going to say when I woke up in the morning on thursday mornings. I get up at six thirty in the morning and night there was the. I think he fired at like seven in the morning on eastern standard time,
I saw it.
and then I just sat and looked at my phone waiting for hank to wake up yeah. Oh yes, I don't know, I think I has to wake up yeah. What is belcher do now
just asking Jake. Before we start taking the showed, does he does
to go for interviews, do you bring build
logic and be like someone,
described to me, your coaching fly like what
he'll belgic have to prove it just like some
in the cosmo, be like hey congrats, you've got the job. If you want yeah, he is some owner calls. Him up is like hey bill. We want to bring you in and he's like. Alright do I have full control is like yup. You got full control
or if he even has to go to interview just wears all six of his rings and they're like? Oh, that's nice, you bring your resume with you bill. I pronounce your cv and have it on our desk yeah, but put the real story. Is Henry yeah or dear henry. Well know we want
people want to hear from you, you don't remember a time when belgic wasn't your head coach. No, I don't. I do
I was what I think.
Years old when they won in two thousand and one
So I dont member anything before I bailey member, that seem to be honest, so
it's very very sad. My my childhood is over, which is appropriate for some thirty
greatest coach of all time greatest run and sports history and its over his
here's, a funds tat. I got from Adam chapter
the patriots hired Bela check in two thousand, the
thirty one teams have you,
a hundred. Sixty two head coaches,
two hundred twenty four total coaching stance as crazy as thoughts
it's I mean it's an insane run of excellence. I actually
Can it make you feel better, please I,
think this was a good time for it to happen, because
he had this year. That was bad right,
last year. What are they finish? They finished like a sign operating there wasn't gray put. It was like a competitive issue year, ah
if you had kept bilbil
jack, and he had done one more really bad here.
it's. The memories start to sour little bit, whereas now gatherers,
for five years after Tom Brady, but I think that those
for five years kind of wash away as the time goes by and is like. We just remember, you know
the winds and the soup roles and sick super also
in a weird way. I think you should be happy because it could.
Gotten worse and then it would have been like what is going on here.
yeah yeah that's fair and yeah? You'll always remember the good times. The greatest times great times ever had were were because of bill belichick because of Tom Brady
as the patriots
I will always love him, always appreciate him, he's probably below him
and the patriots organization in that run has probably ruined my perception of football people always get mad at me. Like you, don't know a ball. You know the draft, that's because of bill belichick and the patria
always being and contention always expect
excellence, always you know
the season, doesn't start till right. Now, that's over
We have to deal with the new coach new gm I'm an attack.
start pay attention to the offices in staffing and all that in its eyes,
Looking forward to it and I've been trained to expect
ass, a championship superbowl at the minimum
right here,
and I'm not ready to go back,
to being a normal purse- became a ruined football for you
in a way yeah just there were so good for so long that
I now have to like
and it's also weird- it's like it's like a stepmom situation like
whoever comes in somewhere now it's like whoever
whoever comes in. How how are are you ever really gonna love them? Well, what? If it's would you rather be,
jeered mail or might grable
I would like it to be a former player I,
the rebel one like I I could be way off base here, but I I think variable is fun to say, and I, like I love very boy, is a great guest on the show or the name is fun to sell it's fun. To say like we want to rebel, and I was saying it today like. I want rebel.
I don't know that, like he's as tight with
organization, as people might
I think they just put them in the ring of honor the commands ago, an inside source told me that inside source being will continent was here in the office today that maybe rebel going
back to new england for the ring of honor might have had the titans be like her
if he just wants to go back there. One of those report that came out okay, so we'll just told me that yeah he read the report and then he said, hey big cat. This is what I'm hearing yeah yeah, apparently when he went back there and he sent so many glowing things about the patriots organization. He was saying like this. Is it
take this for granted, because not every places like this, he would
Tennessee and Amy Adams strunk was like watch sale that stuff here. What's going on you like them, whether you like me these, like yeah problem
Why and who would blame them for that? So I feel I would love that the law would absolutely add variable yeah. It feels like
the love for the patriots? Why wouldn't
Would you rather hammered your mail
because there was the
when kobe made like there was a lot of smoke this year lot of smoke about the coaching staff and guys not getting along mail was
That's coaching stuff.
I would rather rebel
wearing guest front of the programme is proven. It proven it yeah so
we'll tramping opposite mail is to buy out rather variable just
proclivity to the shall so ok and use that word at goods google's proclivity it's for these. I was it kind of
the proximity of catalonia area proclivity? We, we know what you meant with its forty, that you said like. If you,
a round of year, because that is the ultimate Bela check way right. Well, IRA guy one you're too soon
rather than when you're too late, and this year was bad. But again, I think that way. If you is optional, stack up like five,
it's bad years, the memory
will fade away and you'll just be like oh yeah yeah, that Billy's happier that was weird
and you won't even were like really remember it. How do you
Jim
interview in ITALY. We want like what you talk to ernie cork horsey. He says he he recommends bill poland bill. Poland, then recommends like one of his fail sons
that is going to move gm done? That's getting like deal deal with a new coach and new gm. Well, if it's rebel is unheard of, he might be the gm to really I dunno. He said he wanted more control in tennessee. I dunno that they give him complete control. I feel like craft is going to want a gm and head coach be separate right now, unless it's
I, like my rebel, who trusts whose part of his family that's the different states of emigration. Do you think that
raft is gonna like belch eating. Bela check is going to have a say in the new head coach now he's got fired. Would you mean
but they areas where hold. I all right old on he's no longer part of EU migration. What they said by two
If it is not like next Sabin next saving will have a say in the
he probably gave them a list of names. He's gonna live as a thirty year, yet z, retired bobo check I fired you doesn't.
As usual parting of ways, but ok, we hold out like the human gratitude imo. That's no, but but ok
it was a million allocated, probably ones male, wake that, but but
It is a mutual parting of ways
you think Bilbao check wants to
Oh find a new job. Do you think bilbil? I didn't want to stay where he's been in one six hundred sir wolves, because I
I would imagine he probably wanted to stay
of course, ok are now. As thousand dumb question, I just thought you know him in him in craft. Are super super close, obviously again like that, but they both nobel check is, is
aware of how bad things have gone, anita, yeah, probably time you know next it up, but you should go with drawn now
we ve only gave a suggestion. I just don't know of craft by yams can
take whatever you says, we're think I've not eyes ass, a big girl as allies. It, as you have a say in all, he does not have a solid check. The gm was the worst part of Bela check, and now you want Bela check the gm too high,
the next head coach, I'm not saying hiring, my question was: does he have to say I don't think so we're gonna say max. I think that there's a chance he did want to leave.
Really. I think that he might be at a point where he doesn't want to do a rebuilding coaching team and he wants to go to a place that has got
his want of fixes russia, those mutual yeah line. I believe there is a chance that, like he's like I'm too old, to go through a rebuild and get back to
she were balls. I need to go to a place where I can win. I kind of like that and if you like, able to hold out nothing, I o my son around like all hold on, but we did so ready to resign. His error hold on we back.
Parsec, I don't think so. I don't think it was all Bela checks out if that is true max like,
bilbil check will not get as much control anywhere else.
then what he had in knowing why think regardless they like
we're taking away the gene right, but he
but here you are, he would always still have more control than the gm if they harder gm is bilbil check
like that is his place. E p b, there's six
six super bowls. Like I
maybe there's a world where he was like. I wanted to leave, but I feel like you would want to leave a place where you have the run of it by
I'm looking at it like it.
work, we'll get into the rumours I assume, but like
the cowboys, are on the table. I think that there is a chance that put the abbe like that could be a mutual boarding of ways if each talk
jerry jones and been lie and was like.
Take over this cowboys roster now right, rather than go to the patriot, putty wouldn't have any control, yet
I think that he might just be like
be willing to go to it. Give that up for
I could win now. I think he can probably see some silver lining stood, but I d,
think, there's any possible chance that this was like nothing in life is totally meets right now,
there's no way that I yeah pities exaggerate like. I bet you Bilbo check today, or you know we wakes up he's like you know what this might not be a bad thing, but there's here
it is especially like he's a historic the game. You're like you, wanted to break the record with the patriots, a team that he made his entire career there like he definitely.
Did you say, sir, but there is there some silver linings form, especially if you're right, if we can go, find a roster, that's ready to go right now,
and when a shit load of games cause
He probably there's a part of Bilbao belichick's like I can. I need one another superbowl so that
we're even on the Tom Brady one? Yes, the brady effect, so there there are number of teams that are interested right now. I'd just like to say on behalf of the commanders, I don't think
interest in any longer bilbil check, because now that he doesn't have a team it's like,
porsche. Do I really really want elegant way more attractive as a candidate when he
a job
now it's like go this unemployed. Guy wants to work. For me,
so I'm more interest in other other people, but what is chains hit rate on photoshop to force him to do? I know I'm just saying like the time, there's a material change
the material change was he got fired. I don't want to die.
Coach, I don't want to re a retread like belichick. I don't wash out I'll wash out the old circle back to that eh come on. It's the same like six guys that keep getting hired in the nfl. They never do anything good. I don't want belichick, but you want more like a strong, silent type like ron, rivera or or mike vrabel, like a guy that you know, you know he can coach so when it comes to the teams.
That are looking about economic. The falcons are looking at him,
which would be very funny, and I would put out my worst case scenario, because I do think that belichick will go to the falcons. The bears are trade justin fields whom belichick when a soup
We just puts possibility. They gotta get rosters the chargers, that's another option form and then there's a mystery team. That's
the playoffs. I love a good mystery team and I've got. I have three,
and it is for the MR dean guy
and to them would be great for the show. Yes,
the dallas cowboys. Yes, if, if might macaulay loses in india,
or maybe even in the second game. If they get there asked in in the division around, I could,
de jure jones, be like we gotta make a chance we gonna get,
the bell checks out her. She had just having got four hank. I would really. I think that would take the sting out. Do you think you think is it doesn't
On paper, make any sense, because jerry jones, that is it's his show like bill belichick, doesn't seem like the type of guy who wants his owner.
doing radio heads talking about his coaching job every single week. Right that doesn't make sense. Do you think there's maybe a chance like
the consumer, Joan Johnson are our friends. I think you think maybe jimmy
It was like hey, you know what journals
out of a guy he's gone better. I'm in the way of a hunter he's got a lot better recently. So maybe he has a change our that one would be weird to be just because of the power and
jerry jones has shown?
it doesn't matter that its bilbil jack, it's jerry, Jonesy, yeah
and I think if it was the cowboys Bela check.
Your has said publicly like
I want to win and other superbowl before I die, he's thinking about death. All the time right, like any secondary jones, thinks he could die
so. He wants to get maybe
they had gotten. There might be hearth, can't get the job done. That's option one!
option two, which would be great for the show, is that
of eagle sawed off max. If they fire superiority,
I would love to see that our love for you to get.
for you to get hanks later out.
That max
Ah,
about the play off right now
about winning on Monday night.
It's not a most when they ve. I thought you ve already given up on the planet. Yeah now spoiler ink
but why favorite site builder
I came to the not everything I've seen. Is that no one in philadelphia once bilbil? Yet? Would you want to film or for reasons because I felt like I actually would not want high when football I want em strictly to troll hank I wanted. I would I
I am I've convince myself for football reasons. Yes, but I,
That is where you re. I ain't we hold on ten october.
What do you mean? You wouldn't want him for football. I wanted the best coach of all time. I wanted for football reasons, yeah and you already have a roster so that that's kind of what I was saying, he'll go ahead and like he'll go find like a fifth round.
And you know linebacker that'll, my grable and just going up he's the best play
when I was talking earlier, I was saying cowboys, but I was really thinking he yet, like I think of bilbil check. We had that roster. It would be a whole different Bobby.
Yeah, honestly. If he went to a team like the eagles or the cowboys, it would make way more sense. It'll then go to the landers, which is a multi year. Rebuild right, it'd, be great for just entertainment. I generate yeah eagles roster is getting older like the window. Is she?
Oh so it's late
I'm all right having an old coach who's gonna come in and be like we're in line and we're gonna win right. Now we now, while the while our window is still
elbow we're gonna go in
so the third mystery team, I think, might be the box yeah
I agree. I think it could be the box, he might need to re, it might be the belichick bowl thought Monday night, yeah, yeah, yeah winter advances. Loser gets the goat, belichick yeah yeah, which would you rather max? Would you rather win this game lose
ex round.
lose this game, get Bela check. I, when I win win,
So you don't, I wouldn't, if you're going to have an extra what I don't want to get on windows. Closing this call you of it. When joan hurt, you might make too much money for Bela check might be sticking to the other one. That would be very interesting, but would never in a million years happen because Kevin's fancy might win coach the year, but just doing the full circle
I'll, get him in saving back their got would be hilarious, yeah guinea is this too, is a historian of the game light he hates. Then what
almost every that's different owner
yeah cause they moved to baltimore. So hang! Oh there there their current owners,
a douche bag to but yeah yeah jimmy. I, u defrauded like
Tens of millions of dollars from truckers
I want to get a little sentimental. Africa is what
is your favorite bilbil eject member. Were you begin? I mean.
Mademoiselle need was high, five, those kids landscape,
oh yeah, the sincerity of mine was all the cheating. I didn't. We
Are you going back commanders fifty yeah? Ok,
over the Cincinnati press conference and just how that catapulted the seas. Analysis winning season now was a great prescott
where's great moment any time
through a challenge flag,
at the press conference like now. As you know, I don't watch. I stayed still would watch the press conferences Monday morning, like periscope tune in bilbo belgian press conference, like laugh out loud funny.
all the answers. Snap face.
The way he would play dumb and just now
give anyone anything, but he knew what he was doing. He was doing it intentionally and then he would open up randomly about like a punter. You'd ask a question about punting and he talked for five minutes about formations and plays from the nineteen fifties.
All the super balls. The pith dude
p of tee, taking the time off the clock against the clock against jets, like just how do the widow, literally that we would, when he would prove like his vast.
Vastly superior knowledge of the game of football. Just just for fun, dawit approve it. The drop, kick
flew d like just to do a drop kick as it was like a cool moment. Football thing there's a lot.
When you would put like errand, he got mad when he got the day.
or the gateway dies bath on him got furiously mad yeah that was hilarious. Has his dad was right there. This I'm not bring the suggested mention her name is, but
that one season when they didn't really have any running, backs and he's like I'm just gonna turn my tightened running back and it worked.
and it was ass, unlike
danny what had years were incredible, also when he did that time travelling thing against the jets it was so
because you got to see Bela check on one sideline
Adam gazed on the other, and he
bullied. Adam gaze into draining forty seconds off the clock
and Adam Gase. Just sat there like a helpless puppy yup and the smirk that crept over belichick's face on the sidelines was so priceless, like
I know the rules more than anyone else in the world. Yet the are also anytime outfits anatomic. I called
my way you ve just pile up, just look so miserable
he's mean? Is it like that
sadness of the the last day,
have is like say
Bela, check, p carol or all time like care,
to fodder for when we watchful yeah like they are the three of them, like you know their antics. You know, like
style. They have, you can depend on em, so yet chain
He was a fan of Barzal. His son, very big fans of barcelona, met them a bunch of times over the year, never got to me bill, but, like me, probably
so they were. There are now obsolete part of a huge, huge bilbil,
jack. None of us are probably sitting here, besotted bilbil jack. Do you
that argument easily, but if I would say maybe Tom Brady, will you give credit to double check? Ok, really pyres may place players,
players, but like two thousand one thou hast, thou belgian
yeah, I mean it's true. Barstool doesn't exist without
the rams like hacking, ambrady, other german. Obviously it pretty too, but it's it's
I don't think it's one of the other: it's not one of the other theirs
a chicken and egg situation. What if he go?
to one of these rosters at a really good and again,
doesn't do still say it's biologic over Brady.
good question maxwell that would
that would probably change things. I don't I don't if it's belichick over Brady, it's still close, but I do think I I think it's it's both, but I think the the tom Brady prime years.
They lost two of those super bowls yeah. They also.
on a bunch. I know, but I'm saying like two thousand one you can you can you? Obviously, Tom Brady may that fourth quarter dry, but it was like the defence I one that championship shutdowns already has one without but
I know I know I know I'm just saying may not like I was. I think it's if it's it's fifty one, forty, nine, whoever you want to call it it's not it's not one or two
so. You would say that bilbil
check as bad manners, undefeated superboss tomboy
Eighty as now, and now I'm just saying I people that one of say, oh just because Brady one one is definitively brady, but when brow
was playing is best football. Eighteen, you know like he was envy p
I dunno. I still laugh at super bowls. I dunno. If that helps your argument, but I do agree like it's the answer that no one wants to hear because in sports talk like everyone was like well, it's one or the other. You gotta pick a side
I mean you're right, did its both of them. They both needs. They both said you need the other brain,
never brady without belgic projects, never belgic without Brady. That's fact. So
where do you want him to go? Hank, Dallas? Okay, he would become so much more of a cowboy. Oh yeah it'd be a bigger cowboy. I I said it.
I said it on the show, as it happened with the box, like I'm rooting for the amurri for the patriots first bucks. Second, the only way, I'm not ready for the boxes if they play the patriots in super bowl, which obviously didn't happen, but as a huge
box. Then, on the huge tom brief- and I was rooting for,
box in every game that he played.
However, blushing S, house.
what if he goes to Dallas I'm going to be the biggest cowboys fan. Even bigger than I am now okay well, it's gonna be exciting to see where he goes, cause it'd be funny just seeing him in different colors
that alone will be just Atlanta would suck it. Also, I have a I have a feeling. This is not atlanta guy, I thoroughly Dallas guy. I don't know if it's, this might not be what happens but-
feeling boucek might lighten up. Little is with his new team, but you might
just a little bit. He still can be belgium. If he goes to a warm weather place, he might lighten up just a little. If he goes to philly, I don't think he will
Probably not the appropriate harder visa
I hope italy now if he goes as a now the chargers. What would you do if you want to? I would love it as much. You would be nice everything I just said. I would not apply or have years and years of feeling superior or
civilian woods MA maxie will have already with europe, for we would blame you for max is happening now and I shouldn t kick them out. Nobody phil events are scumbags, they were not appreciate and they would be treated like piece of shit like it would never be. I will be started. Football games are men. It would be so great length seeing all
for this show Bela checked the eagles.
the eagle starting hot
and then having like a tail off and mac starts. Blaming Bela check and hank starts moving max and it just sign me up:
We're looking at chevron, have to do a spin off p m tea. Kettle corn, we just we just do max and hank. If we're looking at aachen, belch at hsbc as belichick loves that he coach lawrence Taylor yeah, he loves it. He goes Tom Brady, what's
What's the one player out there on a team that might be available, you can make it
like belgium, you like I want yet, which that guy it might be like upon mars, parsons horses or max roused me max crows,
capital to vegas, why not boasts a lot?
dj. Artist to to put out would be weird if he went to pittsburgh out. That would fit, though I don't think that they would hire him in pittsburgh, because belichick is what seventy years old like pittsburgh. They have to keep
that their contractually obligated to keep their code for at least fifteen year yeah. I can't really higher. Seventy, actually think the more
about the interviews, probably just gonna, go a bill. We liked free to culture.
Are you to bring your son with? You will do
looking for the as your son gotta be working on the sidelines.
Well either way.
I'm excited to see what happens? What transpires for both thank you pay
shirts and whereby
check ends up? We should talk briefly about p carol. P carroll fired doubt I.
Alluded to it on sunday.
a lot of people. My were that's crazy, but it felt like this
have like. If you look at it, this kind of been this.
team, the last five years, like a little bit of success, but also made.
Under achieving most years. Do we think,
There is also a weird report that
maybe it had some do with them. Smoking cigars in the locker room after the cardinals game, so
but that was actually because one of the players had had a baby s. He had saved them, but either way p.
Hero like I just but that's not like petersburg
She got fired aegis. He said
They too and the seahawks like were content.
doing the same thing every year.
Even the last you russia, wilson years or it's like
competitiveness, fish, maybe
to play off, but never really be a suitable contender. Ah, do you
P carol still once coach
I don't think so, so it sounds like he's going to remain, maybe in in the seahawks organization if he wants to, as I dunno probably not
gm, but like advisor
can singly area is the hand of Paul Alan yeah yeah,
okay. That makes sense to me pete Carroll, all time coach and if he won that, I think it would be a slam dunk top ten football coach. If he had won the super bowl, they lost the patriots. Yes yeah.
It was, he was one hand off away yeah and he was yet incredible. College coasts credible and I fell coach
also guide. It like, I feel like he's at the top of illicit guys. You'd want to play for.
Yeah. He also he ages in reverse. So I went shocked me if he just if his hair turn darker
forget the game. The elegant more tat looked another ten years younger, like Pierre
he does not look as old as he is. But then you look at you know.
your team, like two seahawks your programme,
be great next year you may
Not great the year, it is going to be process to get back to being an elite team decent roster. They do they want. They don't want, like an older guy leading that rebuild right. He also now can go spend more time with his twin. It's true right. He's gonna find
first to oriel, get to the bottom of the nine eleven investigation? Yes one or the other we. What is up so we argued talk about nick saving with Andy staples. We we have him on talking about next. Save in everything out is going on in alabama. Will who's gonna be cushioned,
next, I had one thing that I forgot to bring up about nick saban the status crazy
nick saving. It's not just the national titles. It's the fact that he'd literally never had it down here. He
one year in twenty ten, where he lost three games of Alabama
besides. I was the first years of from two thousand to twenty twenty three
one single year. They lost three games, yachts, crew
it's late as a college football with eighteen year, old, kids don't have one year. We could be like all that's down here and that also was the year that they lost.
who came newton, the iron ball with that crazy, come
by cam newton. So it's like
didn't really
saving always just be everyone who spoke to be and then like once or twice every couple years there
it seem good enough to beat him
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as being a name that could come to town this.
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Should we get him super while car weekend super wildcard week? I am so excited for these games, I'm so excited. We have to agree.
I have to remind everyone. You have thirteen football games left and after this weekend it will be down to seven so embrace it enjoy it.
There's like Saturday can't get here, quick enough
so so excited. So, let's just do let's talk about these games. Will you maybe give some picks thoughts?
You guys ready dive in Stu. I
its actions. First game, sir
ray afternoon? Which
Is the perfect spot for the texans joe?
wacko. He said what was his quote. Where he's like we're going to do something in the next five weeks that will remember for the rest of our lives. I think he said to his team. Okay, a little presumptuous, but that's okay. It sounds
I'm a job like in there. We are, we said it before
We know that the browns
their defensively. We know,
like I was on the couch a month and a half ago, but if there's one guy
one guy in the world that can make you feel like hey. Maybe it
magical runs about to happen is Joe flock. Oh yeah
get a good record on the road and the playoffs yup seventy five
flock o is
We have the heels on christmas, eve of dismantling the texans defence yup. You can say yes, e g shroud didn't play in that match up. You can play a game pretty big.
corbett suggest rat, also doesn't play defence. You see my mark cooper game. Yes, he cooper game, but would he have two hundred sixty five yards erase, something like that which it also
you, can make the argument that suggests roadmap playing that game might work in the bronze favour in this game too.
because cg hasn't seen that defense, yet Jim Schwartz and Jim Schwartz is great
he's got dial. Something he's going to have. Some shit is going to be dialed up, guys are good, pin their ears back guys. We flying around out there I'm trying to think of what other cliches he's going to he's going to do some shits, he just shrugs ever even dreamt. Yeah he's going to put
he's going to put them in hell because he just read seems like a good guy yeah, but he's gonna put them in purgatory for, while he's going to make him think
and rookies don't really wyndham much in play off so obviously brought pretty one last year in a play
before that. You know that,
ricky quarterback too in the playoffs. It goes all the way back eleven years before that Russell Wilson, when he also beat another rookie quarterback orgy, three and
yeah. It's it's! Seventeen, thirty five and one: a rookie quarterback against the spread, a rookie quarterback, going up against a quarterback, that's played in in in the playoffs and there's four of them this weekend. Yeah, it's it's cj shroud, it's tua! It's mason! Rudolph! Is jordan, love yeah, so I I think I liked browse this weekend. I think the defenses,
The defense is super bowl caliber. I I
agree with you the thing that I keep thing rather texans
obviously, like they
finish. The season strong
tank del injury was huge, but they ve they still you, no one,
I think we finish what foreign too, I believe. Yeah
yet foreign to so they finished strong pot.
they played in that stretch in
tennessee, denver, arizona,.
those teams are
bottom third of league in defence,
the cleveland grounds are very, very good defensively.
there may be a little like you might get
Your point words like is greatest ca. Shots Ben this year,
This is a different animal.
This is a different peace in this is a team. That's that's completely different! Then the team.
They ve, been beating down the stretch. One big question is Denzil ward, because he hurt himself in practice to that. Yes, we heard his in practice.
a report that use questionable for saturday.
and then in rap poor, came back and said that they think he's gonna play so
I don't have it could be a hundred percent but thou be Debbie, pretty significant for the better,
defence yeah. So
the brown, the one thing about bronze their battle tested with injuries. They played pretty much every.
The integration of light up this year on both orphans, andy's yeah. They do next man up half I made it
like dens awards, miss games m mouser. What did miss games, but he was hurt for a few game. He's been her again again. Her like their office of line, is missed. You know all
I'd, say games like in terms of
travelling around new job niche up got injured like ten years ago. Yeah so
If there's one thing that you can like, I will, they could probably still still by
back from injuries brought the browser. I am very sorry to see if the browns happen went to play games. What tat what goes on with sean Joe flag, o discourse
be able to afford Joe Flacco. I would like to do the discourse right now. Who would you rather have I fucking flak as a human, I'm taking flacco, even better human being the football player, even better human being the ducharme watson's as a human being to Shaun watson way?
way better football player than human, be her acts way better sanely allow
maybe the biggest the biggest ratio. One of the big was oj not guilty.
tell her nose, is also not guilty.
Because it was vacated after
Yes, we can and sharper dern sharper way better way. Better football play much better. The tide end their nugget
Oh yeah, the harder I murmured nugget of the often suleiman, but in today's game I would say that to shun watson has the biggest football team
guy ratio. Yes, I would agree and rugs
Is it a he's? A league aaron rodgers yeah, oh yeah,
why germany grandmothers, hoping as you can see that we got in a good luck off with her.
So
tony jags, who, who is former coworker ri ours, who we love and works in the pat mcafee shown digs tone digs while his name's tony and Andy
He got in a good luck off with clay travis. Oh I
I take the path magri show side on this, who were
I believe clay did the last good luck. So tony it
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good luck
and then clay Travis came back and was like good luck with your show and until he's like? No, you good luck. Closing no good luck
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he said you guys,
legit said he was done for the yes right now he suddenly back talk about rogers, which that wasn't a case like I to know why people started
I I think doesn't stop soon. Pat back. We show, after the seasons over
That comes on every now and then and then like.
bunch of reporters were like you got fired from the path maxie shut. Would you very bizarre and clay took?
took it ran with that was like? Oh,
and this is like maxie. What woke the other day. They fired aaron rodgers. So then back vein of good he'll move.
Brought aaron rodgers onto them.
Ok, I like they also it it's very interesting. Everybody that cover sports media, that hates aaron rodgers do nothing
but tune into the air and roger our views in.
Inscribe every second. Why are they giving this guy somewhat
Free attention means
there are literally tweeting out bar for bar everything, their rogers lotta handwriting.
A lotta lotta. What what are we going to tell the children? Yeah shut, the fuck up, it's entertainment, shut up,
we'll get to the jason, witness
stephen smith and a little bit you do that bad
you're that bastard it's, it's entertainment guys. So I kind of like the over the scheme to ok, good weather, yes, rick
I do not like I like the browns. I like the rounds off. I liked to texans often brand
Defence, obviously, is is out of this world, but still
cs rise, gonna get his
Well, you just said really balmy out one
love all the dome overs and I realize it just because there's
what is no other here here,
that's a contrast. Is energy stating the dome? It's got. It's gotta retractable real mightily. We own roof closed doors, yes indoors, no yeah, you just
You said one line in it just like that
bob in my head, hey you moron yeah
If it's inside it's over, I might have to take the outdoor overs just to prove a point: do the dragon lose money both indoors and outdoors outdoors? The weather's going to be,
I'd say you have a nerd nugget forest jake yeah for the playoffs, actually research, one for each team. That's cool
got so doing to nor nuggets. Where he's gonna do one for each game. Now
Oh? No god go give us the two for the brown
if Joe Flacco has taken over as browns quarterback. He has led cleveland to a foreign one record as a starter and became the first player in nfl history to record at least two hundred and fifty passing yards and two touchdown passes in his first five games with a team because he's elite mother, fucking, joke hecho is a good those good nerd nuggets. It was just Joe Flacco lead us also. It is a retractable stadium in Houston yeah, but events can be close. Yeah yeah.
And then after the taxes of the first theme, and I felt history to win their division with a rookie quarterback and a first year how to coach.
just rods, meagre rinds, the fifth rookie kubi and first, your head coach do oh
The merger to make the playoffs yes at last one brucie cuba
and first you're potion make the playoffs
life has been five total rookie cooler in five and rookie head coach to vary
your head coach first year, head coach to make the playoffs andrew luck
and was was chuck pagano also, although the shark, but that get those good also own. I mark sanchez raft trying
and two in a way that right and like smith and Joe
outgoing john hard by smoker.
you're here remember that guy she's,
yeah was like he was like he might. Smith was just created.
which, on men, yeah you
like our failure to live like smith, walk by the industry. It would, I would never never be able to pick him up
second and insurance salesman, monks in his name
yeah is. Is it really is a creative coach, ok, good nor nuggets jake? I saturday night dolphins at she,
by the way to an indoor stream we had nicky smokin frank: the tank should be sought
we're a stream cowboys, ersite browns texans as well. We have fifty low come in and are our great producer Kevin Suki, whose dire browns fan
he's the one who are
When deshaun watson went out for the year, I came in early and he was
on the phone with his dad he's like we're just them
I catch a break in like he was about to cry yeah, he loves the brow and Jeff D. Lowe is everything is the apocalypse yet
yeah. He is actually just like a cleaned up version of frank. The tank yager says instead of like biting his hat. Jeff will just say
little games over absolutely brutally? Ups click classic grounds is suggested. They just lost a conflict and he'll do hashtag brutal,
so should be great stream. A great streaming. Ok, dolphins, itchy
it's saturday night, it's gonna, be called variable.
Dangerously cold. As a matter of fact, that's what the weather service said. Oh no, no children and dogs outside dangerously close to the latest forecast approaches a wind chill of negative thirty degrees. Whoa
negative thirty. You shouldn't be outside.
No one should be outside, but they're gonna be like you know what fuck that we're gonna put,
ninety thousand people outside at the same time, but I cannot like you,
to go to that game is get a ticket because there,
like that's a badge of honor game, negative thirty, so called it feels like your raping everytime you breathe
Every hit your nostrils, like the your nose hairs, frees up everything. So we
throughout the candy ass jerseys
and by the way, has some great info about everything. The act,
numbers about these games, not just us guessing on weathers,
doors or outdoors uncanny s jerseys, but the dolphins,
as a franchise
I believe I don't know yet
or fifty degrees are fifteen and forty two straight up to
nineteen stray up in the last twenty one games as a franchise under fifty degrees and tour in his cold
starts in the nfl or college tool
degrees he almost beat the bills were relaxed europe. The snow
ballgame
I remember thirty, six, yet thirty six degrees they got killed by the bills and twenty twenty one. Thirty
seven degrees they got killed by the titans in twenty. Twenty two
would just not play well. Nicole and those games are not negative. Thirty degree windchill correct, that's thirty! Seven degrees is warm. No can you I I don't see to a winning this game. I want to wait and see what do we know what jerseys they're going to be wearing
That will make that will make a direct impact on how it used about this game. So
everything that I look at
the dolphins tells me that the dolphins are gonna struggle, a lot because
even like, like intervening about her
no that saving our and VON Holland or both like game time, but they should play
joe model should play, but there too,
France even last week gave
twenty one points in a pot returned to the bills, but if you
that game the bills head.
to read, zone turnovers, a turnover at the forty and they got stopped at the one going
after the bills with
Hundred plus yards of orphans could have easily scored. You know thirty five, forty,
went to that game yeah. The good news is, I don't think the chiefs are as good on offense as the bills are, so that's yeah, but they might, they might just do pacheco. They might just say this guy. The way that he runs, he looks like a cold weather running back, which is feed the guy. So
all that yet, like you, I agree with you in that might be the game plan, but then again, obviously any red yeah
He read any real for an invite him say any reed. I just I feel like five points is too many points
I think that what's happening here,
if you told me gun to my head, whose and when this game I'd say chiefs, but what
the chief done this season that show you that they can like beat teams consistently by five points from nothing
right. Nothing and we're doing the flip switch off the flips, which is there for the chiefs this year,
it's gonna be a lot of them have the leg.
Get back to supporting me like grinding it out.
feel go games like tough tough football games.
Not blowing, teams out like on some of their super warren's human. Remember that texans game, like I dunno, I just think,
points to many points, counterpoint the weather I now
I mean that the staff at you had four too. If you can
watch to only plays in cold. He looks very uncomfortable.
Going on. The road arrowhead is like one of the top two or three hardest placed play in general in the nfl and
I feel I feel like the chiefs everyone's too.
Spectrum.
and for good reason. This time like they have,
not give us anything to believe in, but I still
Get the chiefs in the play off with Andy red with patrick
they can be the chiefs they can
the chiefs. They can.
They can take your business against dolphins government saying that two and that's why I liked it off
It's it's one of those.
situations where everything when I look at this game says chiefs, and that makes me think
off. It's what you read only the chiefs have not been good
right in it it again. I don't think that I don't. I don't think the dolphin they're gonna win this game. I would
me they did, but I, if you don't like, if I had to do percentages like dolphins, probably
when this game, I twenty five percent in time, but five points I just
now having dolphins either win or lose by seventeen plus.
I could see that yeah, I think
might be just like
I think that we lose down very blowing the division or then
just have a trip on the shoulder. Evans
kind of the mountain when the game either a loose by three. I think it would take the chiefs. Ok, ok with frank today,
I'm not gonna, say anything. I do have my probably ear super while
probably your travis geysers court, hotshots plus money. Now, ok and the dolphins are not great guarding the tide end, and I do think that, like when you get to the playoffs,
patrimony! We like who can I trust
Travis, calcium guy contracts. Is she going to be there
a lot of james heading, we had this I'll break down the other day network craig. You know they got the boxes. Another word for vagina.
yes, my boy, along with I don't know. I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know where we're talking about since I was ok guys, one where it would mean us. I was talking about vagina, you're
I don't recall that at all. She will be there, though out assume sir, and shall be bundled up in that way
Sweet yup does the while the paupers common folk.
Freeze their balls off. Maybe
baked potato girls can be they remember her.
The lady. I think it was a a couple years ago she was eating a big potatoes potato to war. We are anxious brought when in as hand warmer tell us swift care about me
she let everyone in a box
If she really cared about the people, she take a couple extra flights, a private jet back and forth- maybe get the degrees up globally. So it's not that cold there, but actually solve this.
What's a warm place in that same, it's gonna be tailor spock's yeah, it's very cosy right so
Let everyone in the box.
I almost said something- and I
It didn't, and I want credit for not saying what I was about to see. What would you have set out? Texted me I'll say I was just go, see, I'm
Ok, that's the hank, make him sucker pink lisa.
We're not gonna. Do the nerd dug it well.
Also I just saw the fun name
the bird nugget about the cold weather
Let's go back to the drawing board. I mean nuggets every day. Gonna get no! No! No for the dolphins. They've want to do like gucci mane with us
I know that it was
As for the dolphins, they've won just one road playoff game since their nineteen seventy two undefeated season. Yes, they had to go on the road in the post season. Despite being undefeated, they had a different formatted like a rotational home site thing.
but the good news from miami going into Saturday night. The dolphins are three. No all time in the play off against the chiefs.
Never lost the chiefs in the playoffs for the job
is that there are nuggets things,
it's all like the seventies right is yet
that doesn't doesn't doesn't relate to this game. What so it's, but its factually correct it is factually correct,
like my nor nuggets and maybe help me you all. I presume you on my yes right further help the audience learn something that they don't know that could made. Legato did william money
yeah. Well, then, maybe they knew it and forgot it, because it was what we're not to say
Does it will sag testing me now? I texted ahead cannot exist, say hey. You touch it to me now
this point I think we should say no. I know what to say, but I want to see it so hank text summit will bleep it not just texted me.
will believe. I won't say it either. No we'll just we'll just keep it an unset, meanwhile for the chiefs, quarterback, Patrick or homes and tight end travis kelce have connected for fourteen post season, touchdowns and get gas.
What they need, one more to tie Tom Brady and rob gronkowski for fifteen, which would be the most touchdown connections between a quarterback and pass catcher in nfl, postseason history. I like to guess what that you added in their super wildcard proper the year yeah, so one more, they would tie breeding ground for most ever in the playoffs. So we'd have texting to you. He might just be changing, so this is a classic game. Telephone yeah
These changing it.
Why are notification silenced, you're off the clock? Nice only a distraction
We use these sex me word by word: yes, he's just making it up. Ok
As you know, I'll say: yeah yeah, I can't not say it.
Are you so annoying fuck it ok sunday, sunday sunday, we have the pittsburgh steelers going to the buffalo bills.
and no dj what no tv why'd they do. Have her big, whose pretty good
but when I see happening in this game, it's a lot of points right. I've had ten points,
all the have to turn tat. I would not be shocked if the steelers covered the spread, because it's too many
points and it's going to be a weird game. It's also yet classic steelers voodoo yeah yeah they might, they might muck it up a little bit and I see a lot of plays where her big gets upfield.
Because he likes to do him and both like do that they like to they like,
right like rush hard off the edge and they leave
Little gap there on the end in Josh's, just gonna eat that up he's going to either
that Josh's gonna big day running, I'm
I think the bills are gonna win this game, not a crazy thing say when the ten point favorites and I like
the ambush about the bills. Sobbed glazing,
both about weighty here and Schatz talk josh out people gotta be upset about them on board.
The bills, because, if you look back at last year and that bengals game and that play off came- and they got bullied absolutely boy
Would the bills now do have a legitimate running game? It's not just.
You don't remember when the last couple of years, where we trick ourselves and be like ooh the bills, have a running game, cause they rented a casino. Fifty fifty five yards I go, they can kind of. Do they have a running game
yeah they have james cook. Who's been awesome, Josh Alan is a part of the running game, and,
Leonard for can be
in cold weather play off, lenny lay off money, so I do feel dick
about the bills. In a game like this, where they're not gonna get pushed around like they did last year
I also I
What's your take that like the steelers? Can
something about the steelers that, like they'll, just keep teams in a close game and it's like a perfect matchup with the bills who win their favorites by double digits. They keep teams in in a close game right right. There have been a bunch of games this year where the bills have played way worse, teams than them and and they somehow keep it close
I think, there's also do something about the steelers helmets in
in january yeah in like december, Coppola is football weather and you see black and yellow, and you just you're not going to score more than twenty five points. It's it's. The anti dolphins, yeah yeah, the er bills, are the last.
seven times have been double digit favorites. They have lost against spread. Ok,
attracts. That's it. That's a nerd nuggets can maybe we'll put people
right direction, that does they do they do fucker out there
corrupt. There was a others, a rumour that they might move the game to Cleveland
because it is because of the lake. The lake effect visually conclude,
there's a lake and clear back it's one of the things its most known for its actually the same lake. If
did that they have to do it on boats
They have moved move the game on boats. They have to get
teams, Annabel got you out and then travel clear, that lake erie for gas and be good
that doesn't why would they music in cases
Andrews conditions, but I also herman who say I heard people say that that is its a rumour, but apparently it's like the emergency sight for the game, fuck that yeah it's parking lot for a play, a game, the bills fans will be doesn't matter. There is no emergency situation for bills, just yet their life. They live in emergency right, they'll be fine. They know it deal with this
there are to be so drunk soldier.
outfits he's there with a shirt off
it will be interesting because the I do think the steelers can run the ball little bit.
And now she harris fun fact from our friend jersey, jerry.
naji harris in the last three years, has more rushing yards and christian mccaffrey.
how's? That was not always entirely, but you have been growing everyone that stock I yet it's easier he's been walking around with that status, back pocket drop in on people
Most people don't really like
he's at its main, a meal as a crucial governments an entire year so
Yes, I like a like the bills to win, obviously, but I dont think that they cover,
yeah. I guess you as my line.
Wow. You hail
and you hate our friends. Gotta be dogged hours, unita futures, a dog wins! Ok,
we have to be the one that mean beget have the biggest future. I saw. What can it be? The dolphins cold? True,
why can't the not about what can be the packers?
as the pet cowboys our home yeah, but
won't, be there to root on your cowboys, true, because that would be their necks.
Oh look ahead. Looking at Saturday all right now, it's is we
and conditions for sunday are twenty one miles an hour when that's not that bad nose up at and snow, I'm excited for that. We might have to bet the over if the snow is coming down.
and there's loose footing and gathered israel in and around bring back shady mccoy, ok
What's your nugget in this game? Ah, you caught a mention of big capital, is running back synergy, harrison jail and warn each rush for seven underpin the arza season there, the
steel is running back duo you each to each rush for or more same season since two thousand and four
Jerome Bettis, who also played for the rams and do still
Oh, that's a good, no nugget alike. Does you big boys network feel good work, Jake thanks and for the bill?
Despite struggling down the stretch bills, water, serious, Stefan digs recorded a one hundred plus reception season for the fourth year in a row, making him only one of four players and nfl history to do that, he also became.
First player in bills, history with four straight one thousand yard seasons
so stuff on digs, obviously still very good yeah. He just didn't put up like
elite numbers answer right, but there's some games where just stinks yeah
I know it's gone over that guy him and gave Davis. Both, I think, gave Davis's ease like forget.
I live in the back field. Someplace serves the found. Several did you, sir. I said
yet that body language, sometimes yeah
The mouthpiece figure boilers
I do think the bills are very dangerous to go to the superbowl glazing, glazing, alert but yeah this the fact that they get to home games here? If they be the steelers
yeah. This is a bad day for dad's tee to look at the screen and see yes
fun, digs and pickens with mouthpieces.
Where is his mouthpiece, matchup yeah also bonus one. These two teams have met three times in the playoffs and the winner of that game in the playoffs has gone to the super bowl, all pre two thousand, and so I know it's not helping you, but I still think that's cool okay, okay, packers cowboys Henry
your cowboys? Did you guys see jerry jones earlier this week, class
jerry jones making headlines to fuck up his own team,
can't kick it I've zone way after the gaming, its commanders he said about,
Mccarthy future will see how each game goes in the playoffs yeah. Always
good to to go a game by game. What because he noticed a bill on the line yeah and then he he had to he had to clean it up, and so he went back on air a couple of days after he said I was a little surprised talking about
These comments, I don't know,
I could be any clear coachman
these under contract for next year. So that's not an issue for him. Yeah yeah
Ok, that that definitely okochee don't get fire yet. Secondly, I couldn't be more pleased with. What's what he's done and how he's coached
I certainly have sat down here right in the middle, the plants and started talking to him.
I certainly haven't sat down here right in the middle, the players and started.
talking to him about a contract? Why would you do that
By the way, he's a
his cat and all texas yeah? I just love that book. It's a great line busy schedule the Texas see he he is well. Are these the cat? Just a fat tabby is well within his rights to say, like we're, we're going to take MIKE mccarthy in the playoffs on a game by game base. Yeah, that's exactly what you said out loud yeah,
a great for morale, yeah and might better when this game. Otherwise you fired it's it's a big game from might to pity,
game grown up against packers as the code to the packers. He
to know what I think is to know in Dallas grieving play off games.
Packers one during the twenty fourteen season.
That was only ramos final- play a game. Nausea rogers pass on the sidelines. What was at the
does caught it does all. I was twenty. Sixteen twenty six may succeed either the one in dallas was the aaron rodgers one of us
one of the best pet passes ever yeah right, contorted his body and like it like it like
was a guest, sidewinder paths that was the mason crossbar game. Yes, we had that kicked. It did funny business. The air that pass was look it up. It's like that pass, unlike the eli manning morrow manningham pass yeah
regrettably, has ever yeah dec
one in five against the spread of the interest
his one when being lasher against the box. Ok against the spread.
I think I might make this a nuclear missile well play on the account I,
Dont know how the packaging are stop. The cowboys- and I also
I don't really know how the covers up package or loves been that good yeah I mean
The answer is: a dull stevens is much better than green bay defence. What the dallas to put your novel complaint great in the dallas deepens, while good they are kind of front round.
you're good against
madison's at home right. So I guess we're going to find out if the packers are actually bad team after this game's over. We also have a my my one: stop from sports info solutions. Every week, packers defense, please middle of the field coverage or so cover to cover for on on fifty two percent of their snaps and dak is
highest in a league on target rate against that defence? Okay, I think I think, there's gonna be a lot of points escape. We would
so that is too early in the play off for a team to do a gimmick. East situation like a home white out.
think it might be well they're using their white out. No, the cowboys are doing their white out this weekend away
That's college basketball! Yet cell works when you're doing for student section, you can't do it for an nfl team, yeah dad I don't
of all the fans. You're gonna get the memo.
Although the member who think sir crazier
yeah. They did jerry Jones probably has like. I would imagine if jerry jones has a hotline to everyone's phone in dallas hank. What colors your uniform that you wear
Two cowboys games on urban hooker was game, but I'm just last week the one that you own
I know, you're gonna cowboys, try have a deck prescott, you look colors our twite, oh good.
Why are there sucks because a problem onto the weight on next week.
Yeah probably give eugene schwartz.
I don't have juice records. I can probably get some by next week, also shut out the anonymous person who sent me the ravens purple camel
so that the best priestly he tat. I just showed up in my office, and I know the best pants in the world. The argo I just love that every into fell team at one point had those pants they did it.
Like an experimental fashioned drop thing yeah and then the ravens just bought the fuck out of him, the we're going to keep these around just for baltimore. Yes, yes, yes,
I like this over a lot.
You guys wanna ride with me yet as well.
What's it out right now, fifty and a half
but I'm in a barrier.
I take the over on every year, yet one hour,
Yeah was partly yeah. Ok, nerd nugget for this game. I'll fact check does called a january two thousand and fifteen mason crossbar january twenty seventeen
So the twenty seventeen game in,
endow yet it he had the throughout the general points. I want to look up the thirty four thirty one,
of course, they have scored
these thirty four points against Alison all afford their games that eighty anti stadium other
I understand that the longest streak by any nfl team, vs dallas at eighty anti with no team doing more than twice.
In a row. Also green bay is the only nfl team, with four plus wins and no losses against dallas at a t and t stadium, so that franchise has a lot of success here. So they've got four wins at a t and t stadium, four plus yeah for plot I dunno, if it's
Lastly, but at last the cowboys are going for their third play off when
at eighteen to stadium, so there
just be dominance over the franchise as whole. Yeah I mean,
one of those is playoffs, but still the up and then for the cowboys.
Did you do not get of the week?
no nugget of the super wildcard weekend.
Put this one on the wild meter in that prescott.
first career play our start in twenty sixteen. He
this first year as the starter against them, MIKE Mccarthy led packers, teen enjoy
loves. First career play off started twenty twenty four years
his first year as the starter against him. Might Mccarthy led cowboys team interesting.
yeah. Ok,
hardly going against the young guns that first group last start like
Currently, I'm watching on the down the silence. He was gone against his body like threw, and it like it actually like
We can, we can all agree that might be courteous fired if he loses game right.
depends on how well ok, I think is the problem. Is it depends on how but the when you're like
we're gonna do is apply our game, the. How is always just so terrible, Michael cartoonist. You can find a reason, then something isn't what I think is a if he loses by fifteen twenty points,
these fire because had blown out. If you,
It is by seven points. Ok is because he did some bird brain activity on the saddle. Here's away that my party could lose this game and not be fired first quarter
Bang bang play on the sidelines, someone rules up on my mccarthy acl an concussion has to go to the hospital.
I shouldn't laugh at the thought of that, but that would that would probably keep his job kind of wanting to fire. A guy who's got an ethiopian concussion in the hospital I'll just see. If that gets hurt, that's
we could probably keep his job. Yeah right could probably keep it that way. But yet MIKE Mccarthy will do something dumb, we haven't we
if the Joe paternal I'd say, maybe, if might because the ether gets roll up on the sidelines like Joe PA, should always a horse at that. I was at that game or it ended that actually open. We knew or if before half time he runs the lock room. Keziah diarrhoea, like Chopin yeah, I think either way would be an elegant way to save jobs all fleshed out
also believes this game. The seven seas never eaten the tourists and six out of the seventy three years ago. I thought that,
five six games, but, like I'm saying, if they lose out, would be preferred idea. They will happen eventually,
uniform match up in this game, classic
it's I mean this package,
cowboys com
boys, niners, packers, niners, that's nineties, yeah, ok,
favorite game of the week. I think we all can agree rams lions sunday, night
hank has been correct in correcting us,
Everyone talks about staffer going back back to detroit. This is the year gaffer venture yeah, it has
beat like that is, and I
she like that all the stories about staffer, because that makes the revenge game even better for Jarrett. Yet this
a hundred percent jirga revenge game show mcveigh.
tried to take some the sting of this, because he knows that it's the jared goff revenge right.
He admitted he's a gathers. Allow things I wish I could have done differently when I traded Jared
and let him know I had a time he liked deep,
we regret that went down. I,
Don't think he regrets it
he just knows that this is the jerk off revenge game. These trends
make nice with them. In fact, all
All the rams or turn of big nice with jerry graff, because errand donald taxes on this week
and he said I'm proud of you.
told you these out some dancers yeah
There are none the head. Yeah, there's that's actually add fuel to the fire they're trying to go so the trunk.
with kindness yeah? Georgia's, don't don't respond any those tax there trying to get at? You
did. You go see the bar in detroit thomas buggies, that is, banning all staffer jerseys. I love that move
they release to state in saying please refrain from trying to enter thomas wikis on game day with line staffer jerseys you'll be turned away.
it's our first home gaming. Thirty years use common sense. I like it,
yeah that sports brand, it's a big time common sense, but yeah where any savagery cannot
where staffer jersey, if your detroit lines answer on sunday, the thing that makes me so nervous about the scheme, is there such an imbalance of upside and downside for each fan base depending on winning or losing
If the rams win.
mine's fans are gonna, be devastated. He s going to be the most devastating thing. That's happened them in the
at the end of a season that was great, andrew marbles, primarily the next day? Maybe, but
if the rams win
happier rams fans really gonna, be what you mean like right.
Fans the
is one of superbowl, they don't have
the die. Hard rapid fan, video. There are less angels, rims fan yea, and I see what I mean like it's such an imbalance in terms of the potential heartbreak
If the lions win, it's huge for that city,
yeah huge for everything
if the rams lose like oh fuck, it will just go to the beach
yeah. I seriously. If I agree, I like lines of escape
you been seen, rams are weak and I've switched. I
has sometimes when you think like going with you
I said rams all week, I'm betting alliance,
I'm gonna take the lions just because I dont I do
want to make blood money off the rams winning. I will lose money gladly
if the lies lose, but I want to make money with the lines winning
also, here's a fun little fact about the rams. We're going to talk to aaron Schatz about the special teams which I think will show up. Ah, like
they'll have a blunder. Did like oh shit. I was bad the rain,
We are one in six against play off to secure.
Their one win.
the clean embrowns joe. I believe his first start when he went to allay so I don't know they kinda.
the kind of kicked the shit out of like the cardinals and seahawks a bunch went forno against those guys went to overtime against the ravens, though they did go to overtime against the ravens and then punt return yep, then punt return right, so yeah. I think there is a little bit of the the ravens games like ooh. They can then go to Joe, but yeah they
their wins their season was
for four winds. What were they end up with nine wins? Ten wins so
One tonne of their winds were against the cardinals and seahawks thrown the
Anderson giants there. I don't know, I think the line
a better. I think the lines are better and I'm scared of the lion secondary. But
and I don't as laporte, is definitely not playing right. So he took reps at practice today and he said that it feels good if he saw the video of the injury it. It looked bad. His knee like bent it.
our two, the side.
And everyone's saying, there's no chance it can play on. This apparently made
They might ask them.
Just be saying like he took
and feels good just
make the rams have to think these play. Yes, as an optimistic about playing, coordinate detroit free press, ok, young,
I think also the lions, if their smart in
then came a smart coach either
run the ball down there.
the problem in iran dank and was probably gonna go for uncouple weird. Fourth downs,
nervous I'm very nor this is I'm excited about this game, but in in so far is that it
me feel alive. How scared I am about this game. I think the lies are gonna. Do it. I hope I hope you're right hank. What do you think lions
I think lines are going to do it. I did I do like you right
the line came out on Sunday as I go ramps, three three and a half, and for
First, four days of the week I was like rams rams and those like wheat you're. An idiot
number, the you're idiot go against you.
I felt so smart about the rams right. If you, if you ever like everyone knows this, when the gamble of you, if you, if you put something in and you think it's a win, its never win, yeah
and that's how I feel about the rams now MIKE I'm all lights, there's there's no chance. They were the creatures right. Oh, my god, they ended up now
We better yeah me too yeah without would be the biggest mistake they ve ever made. If you're the lines you where you were the blues, you have to wear the blues. You can't,
you cannot. You can not where those ugly ugly grace are ignored. Nugget
for the rams. We have some milestone, watches deepened, to tackle errand donal needs one and a half sack surpass Kevin green and become the franchise leader in saxony policies, and also
You pick up, needs virus receptions to pass Marshall falk and become
franchise, leader imposed even receptions k punishing the fork is the opposite later reception,
yeah, like really good ramps for the lions, that the first united fell history to have four different players produce eight hundred and fifty plus.
From a jars and ten plus tedious in a season they ve montgomery.
A mere gibbs amen. Ra brown sandler porter party, we need sale, afforded play
Yeah, I don't know if he is when needed.
Obviously the moon thing
Got target not a lot
oh, we ever awaiting give us. Yet the moon was a waxing crescent last on lines when a plough scream game, the moon
and don't be a wax and crescent ok
nothing. I can do for me, I'm a rate love that lines are money. Football. Last game eager
as long as it's sunday. Ok here.
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ok, so sunlight was gets origin. I just as your question is no
How do you? How do you feel? How do you feel about joan hurts finger?
Not great we'll talk about it on sunday, yeah follow up question. Is it still not a must win we'll get to that on sunday, okay, okay, alright! Well, let's get to our interview we got,
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okay, we now welcome on one of our good good friends. It is
Andy staples the on three network. We thought
we had to have him on, because nixy
has retired the goat so
and he won't to talk about everything, including
nix havens, legacy? What made him special
as well as who's gonna, take the job. But let's start here
when you hear the news on Wednesday,
What were the emotions? Was it shock?
was it. You know sadness walk through what your immediate, like twenty twenty minutes after we're thinking
was shot because
I thought, watching in the season that he enjoyed it so much that
It would kind of re energised him disease
in complaining about the changes in sport.
And as not seem to be having-
Much fun and I realized next saving did not look like he was having fun, but you, you kind of tell he
like this team so much he liked. It grew over the course of the year. He liked that it wound up where it wound up winning the. As you see beating georgia.
And I thought, okay, this this'll put him put,
the right for your mind to keep goin for this, because I always thought
mixing and always complained about any sort of rule changes in the upper.
but then behind the scenes use all working too
those two his advantage
I just give the all well he's just figuring this out, and so
when the news comes down. Like dm, that's it
It's really over and
I always wondered like what would the celebration being the recipe as you see when you
only retired, because
many coaches. This guy got fired young.
It's great moments had five coaches,
as he's been there yeah, he would get guys fired and then he'd bring them into work as an assistant for them yeah and then back out, rehabilitate them like a like a refuge for an animal that you found out out in the wilderness that get like hit by a car nursed back to health and then release it into the wild yeah. That was anyone. I was like looking at all the stuff
and obviously there, some crazy stats out there? You know seven national titles, all these things and others a stretch where you he lost like,
However, three games and of a long stretch,
The sink, the single statute that well me the most
nick Sabin ended his career, eleven lebanon, one in scc championship games.
Like TAT his that's insane.
dad just he just bullied and entire region of the country for
half of two decades ago,
forget the first one
The first when he was in was ls you tennessee and two thousand one I was. I was a balls beat writer.
And then for the chattanooga ties repressed
it just gone down to florida,
in the game that had been moved because a nine eleven. So it was the last game of the regular season tennis
he beats. Florida wins the east.
and everybody in the state of tennessee
is making rosebud reservations because their national telling him was rosebush against miami, and
Every single person citizens. They had beaten Ellis you earlier and season
and saving had a plan for them,
and he lost his starting quarterback and he still won the game anyway and that's when you knew like this dude is an absolute wizard and then he just kept going and kept going, and so
yet the o team was the only one that got it
Yeah me as easy job here is another. What next
means alabama team spit our necks haven.
Himself l issued out there
hundred nine weeks
at number one in the eight people. I think that's more than any other programmes
yeah, I did
that's it that is crazy, there's all sorts of crazy! That's like he had more first round dry,
picks than he had losses
and I m just just crazy, crazy stuff in what he ended up
six of his losses in alabama were in the first year
so you can again like subtract those
and look at what is record was post his first year after he got everything installed there
It is crazy to see what he was able to do. You, l Olonnois, you alone role, got more publicity for beating saving in its first year. Like tat, the answer, the trivial question answer for every everyone's, like oh yeah, nics haven for sheer lost. You l monroe. Yes, so do I I mean from the outside. We look at next saving and he always seems like a little bit surly on the sidelines, he's grumpy. Until you know he was
national championship and smiles for about thirty seconds, and then it gets
two croutons right
but inside.
his programme. I know that his pleasures love em, so
Can you tell us from like it
a player perspective. What type?
Guidance Sabin was, and wise player seem to love so much
he's, apparently relentless shit. Talker practice
and they loved that, like terry on arnold, whose one of the core of this year
was on my showed his explaining to me like
he's a saving is going to needle you, the entire time, especially if you're in the secondary and it's not
but you can't look at it like he.
Is being mean to you like? If you give it back to him, he
appreciates that, especially you can play and like
mac jones nfl careers not gone away it. They wanted it to but like when
Was the scouting quarterback mac talk, shit, the save and all the time
and saving love that
That's awesome, I also love
the save, and so I went along article his arm. I think we had hip surgery recently, so he might not still do it, but he had the basketball games.
They re evaluate its entire staff.
Loved because it was
It was clearly the sign of his competitive nature. He wants to see other guys big, better.
but there was the undertones of like he might stack the teams a little bit so that his team always one
which is the auditing all the fowls. Your headache taught us yet, but I
I would imagine there is a lot of shit talking in that as well just being competitive at all times.
hundred percent, unlike
we say zero people say you know: how does he
and then you see these, these ceo had coaches like and bear bryant was up in a tower all the time.
nick saving was on the field
and until recently he was throwing passes to the corners before practices.
ever is no german pruitt used to always say:
you know who the real dvds coach it album as its neck saving, but
He actually would act like the ga who work for the baby's coach. Her hat I ran,
he was he wanted to be and net. I asked him about that. He wanted to be ground level. Could these, like you, can
The problems,
before they really surface on game day.
I don't wanna, be surprised by things and that's why I stay so so
it yeah you mention mac jones- is gonna, be a really weird day for him.
Yeah? Well then we're bill. O'brien probably do so. I think it is our view that no be funny if they came out there, like
I know saban won seven titles, but we saw mac jones in the pros and like he was unable to coach them to a point where he can be a pro bowl. Multi
water may be nick saban retard out of shame yeah, so I can't believe I give build a guy mac jones killed the ultimate yeah for strange day for mac jones, but
with nick saban. He he was football. He is for football continues to be football
always curious, know what these kind of guys do when they retire.
I dunno, if he's going, to be able to stay away from the game, maybe it's just going to change completely and go live on that lake in georgia that every coach lives on and go fishing all day,
Take up golf. I don't know
what do you think Saban's going to do like in his personal day to day life
I have noted that this was part of the reason why I didn't think he was going to retire,
actually asked Kevin steal their deepens coordinator, who,
worked with him on multiple occasions. I asked in this like a week and a half ago right for the rose. I said
is it. What are you gonna do all day
an steals like I'm. Nor do I look
he's got the mercedes dealerships. He's got that four drive
he can hang with miss terry. They can, in other words to ITALY. Last year. Maybe they wanna go see the world, but
I can't imagine him without the structure of something that last from seven a m to to
Levin p m every night. What is he going to do?
I would love seem on tv like personally, if legal
so retires.
what next saving to that's all, that's a good idea and a around him.
I would listen to anything. He says because
if you ve ever watch that they do.
Shut. The alabama coaches show after each game.
Breaks down one key play
one or two things, and there are many superpowers- did nick saving hat,
one of the things he was great at is me.
king, even the dumbest person understand these. Come
like concepts like he can explain, quarters coverage to
any person on the in the world.
fifteen seconds, like he's just he's a good teacher period.
And so I would love to see him
leaning things on,
get a plus,
he's funny as hell loki like
Very it's a very dry since a humor half the time you think he's being nasty but
most the time he's actually joking. I love that idea. The other idea I saw thrown out there, which would be genius. I think politics still wants a coach put if Bela check and saving created a consulting firm.
They claim they from like. They basically are the delight of.
of our the mackenzie of
coaches- and it's like-
I'm just bring him in for a week to fix their problems,
you think they'd just dick cheney, the whole thing, though we found the programme person. It's us, we can. It's! Britain handle this yet bill. Brian
yeah, that's weird royal idea, and if you don't like bill, Josh mcdaniel, reasonable placement form. So when I saw the news that that savings are retired and then eighteen hours later belgium,
gone- I had the thought like these are
probably the best nfl coach,
best college coach of all time,
and they leave their jobs within eighteen hours of each other.
That's gotta, be the biggest coincidence of all time.
or
or they want wanna team up and do something together, yeah? So
oh my honest, maybe it when it when the
Belichick news came out on thursday morning. I was like.
it did not call him and say hey. Can you give me a day, yeah yeah, I'm shocked I can do to like you know a couple in their nineties:
In the end, you know the husband dies and the wife dies two hours later, it's like wow, they just they're heartbroken. She died from heartbreak. It wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world to imagine a nick saban and bill belichick podcast, oh, oh, my god that would be amazing years. Boxing us out, Imagem starts dating taylor. Swift, hello, jack and reflect on a year to get mystery would do numbers. I think that mystery has got a lot of stands out there, that yeah, maybe it'd, be maybe belichick golden bachelor, yeah golden batter and just one of mystery yelling at nick, like that's a that's a one day a week, one off yeah and because,
He will listen to everything she says like I've done.
The radio show with him and she sits right there in the front.
and he's looking at her like. Is it ok what I just said who emigrate? I only that don't know anybody else is like an obvious born ensuring the best was when miss terry did. The video was like you. Can we not swear during
the song. You know where that, where they sing is what what between the third quarter and fourth quarter and
was like what harry like. Listen, you get a lot like. We love you but
We're still gonna swear with envoy. You know it's is its dixie land delighted,
It's a song by a band called alabama about having sex in a truck in tennessee, so yeah I mean it does really run the game.
yeah to people forget that, as is its literally a song about tennessee in the offing it at
bam. Again, I'm I'm curious.
From your perspective, you take these three things and
rank them in order of
how they contributed to nick Sabin, no longer being the coach alabama tim walking away, one
michigan winning the national championship to george.
Becoming dominant with the exception. Obviously this year's as he's each image of game and then three,
the initial era of college football, which one of those three way in what order would you put those who? I think that
and I also would be number one out of that bunch
and we'll see if there's there's something more personal going on a minute. That's for four!
nick saban and company to to say
but I do know that was then I'll part was was something that bothered him and I always looked at it.
is a problem. Maybe he couldn't saw because there were so
things that he he figured out how to deal with when
they changed the recruiting rules over and over again to stop whatever it is. He was doing
He would just a just on the fly.
He protruding everyone classes, when
a temple offices drove unites he's like
Do we really want this to be football, and he wasn't
asking so much is warning
And saying, basically: ok, if we want to do this, I'm gonna take the best athletes in the world and deal with them and see how you like that, and so he did that, but-
in this case with Israel like he cannot make more rich people in alabama
This is coming into the ssc oak. Home is coming into the us. You see,
They got a deal jealous. You tendencies very well funded like the
you can't make more rich people too.
fun this thing, even though they
your deeply about football in alabama,
you're, not gonna, have as many people as that care deeply about texas in texas, aunt em football as they just have more people. Yes, but
I did see the stat that, like the calculations of what
Nix even made for the universe of alabama, was like over a billion dollars because o essentially air his time,
the outer state. Attendants are enrollment.
and I would I am has like skyrocketing. The total enrollment has gone up by twenty percent, twenty thousand people, and then the tuition four out of state is like triple so
They did the calculation it's like he's made over a billion dollars for
yeah,
good color, my own. Only I wrote that you did last when he got his last contract. You know his hiring actually in this is coincidental coincide:
with the state, reducing funding for
for the university?
and so they had to go, get more out of state students and the
a team success allowed them to get
many many more applications rather state to take better quality artisans. And yet I I think I pegged at
two hundred fifty three hundred million a year, shoe the university that he was worth extra time.
someone stole your column and put in a tweet, that's what I saw
that's it! That's why it's about all that hard working, but it's ok! I was for another company, diego! Is it? Is it a dead man? Yes, so right, so you you mention one thing that I have always admired by next, even his ability to adapt like
think. That's really the story of next, even though,
winning the championships with defence running the ball. The
egg macros, no offense em, but like the these quarterbacks, it dont go on to be like incredible prose
and then switching it works like
that alabama, wide receiver room four years ago was
have been the best wide receive a room in the nfl at the time
With the guys they had in the inter in
MAC jones, like
What what is it about? Next? Even that he was able to stay ahead of it
while, so many teams are able to have to find them.
That's my mention those superpower. So there's two other ones that that that are very important. One. Is that adaptability
There's getting eighteen to twenty two year olds to perform in a consistent manner over and over and over again that the adaptability peace
Actually we are talking about coaches that make this kind of money that get got it up
like nobody's business, there worshipped the
would make anybody say well
right, I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing
he always was looking at
What is somebody else doing that they might be doing better than me? What
Can I change to make
self ahead of the curve to make sure that I never fall behind is one
one day he said to me: I am twenty seventeen hours in his office.
Was the week before the auburn game
and I said how will you know when it's time and he
said I will leave before I am content to.
go down like you did not want to have,
set period like Bobby bounded, floored state. He wanted to dominate till the end.
and so I
think he always was trying to stay.
Step ahead, and I remember
I did at the guest hosting on the radio show. This
say before the texas saying I'm game in two thousand twelve, so that was when Johnny man's l came here
predicted every single thing: Johnny manzella do that day, basic
predicted they would lose?
that that album would lose like it was a hundred percent correct.
but on the sidelines that day
he had line backers who were
two hundred twenty pounds
they're looking out at the alabama linebacker caesar official visitors, highschool kits
and there looking at the album, align backers that ain't gonna huh
well other than CJ mosley. I don't really look like any of them. Those guys were like two hundred and fifty pounds
and the coaching staff is like. Yeah coach wants us to get smaller linebacker, so we can deal with offices like the one you're about to see, so he was already planning way on how to deal with that. That's an awesome store yet is in terms of alabama. Is
opening right now,
Would you say that, as far as jobs go is this? Is this a great like,
top three job, as is the best job in the country or-
the limitation that you just said within I l? Is it not
one you're following in the footsteps of nick saving, so that's gonna, be tough,
and then combined with what they have to offer to recruits is it
that greater job or is it still like its it's alabama football?
anybody should be addressed?
it's still a really good job, because as a place where people care so deeply about football, it's a place where
but will pull in the same direction like theirs?
and I think, saving show them how to do this- that everybody
whose views are rich person who,
has implored sitting oversee, doesn't need to have influence over there
If you just trust the codes, trust the eighty, you can
watch it work
give him the money and let him go. That's
the texas is, has been trying to fix and deal with the day ain't m's always trying to fix and deal with it,
I've always had georgia's the best job.
I guess that was like two thousand fifteen right. When I
Flip Georgia, to my number one best job and I
You think. That's true, I think it's easier recruited, georgia, so
he's got the best job is showing why right now, ohio state
probably a better job, because you were you dominate that state. You got tons of money tons of people.
Alabama is a loaded harder than those jobs.
and next savings made. It look easy, but it's hard because
not only do not have as many really good players and state of alabama. You also have to deal with arbor
there are times when auburn has a really good recruiting head coach like
gus miles on.
Was fantastic it over here
wasn't good enough to be
the next save it rain and that's a problem like, but to freeze is there now you
he's. Gonna recruit, like a madman, he's
they get talented auburn so like
whoever gets the job is united fight tooth and nail,
for every single good player, that comes out of alabama, yes yeah, yet we just tossing names at you, yeah yeah, sure, sark
So that's it you're! Ok, this is a good question. Sark
Does he have a better job of texas, because there's zone accelerated alabama now right right, it's a green light
right, yeah yeah. They actually made his job easier yeah. I I'm sure kirby smart was like the happiest person alive when next saban retired
because I wonder about that. Like.
You could go to alabama
and yes, nick savings infrastructures all their use to work there. So you gonna keep a lot of stuff the same, but the thing is
the stuff that next saving wanted, that he couldn't solve for
at all there you have it texas right. You know you have a good and I ll set up and in all
sarcastic do, which is
me much easier said than done,
is get everybody to pull in the same direction a texas, but it does feel like he's gettin that you are right. So what about laying Catherine? I know that one is obviously talked about a lot
it seems like everything. I've read, link
would be a home on higher but made
the people in alabama theirs.
division in terms of internally, whether link, if it would be the right coach yet
they worked with lane. I dont know if everybody who worked lane once lane become backed alabama,
I also wonder: if he's not in the perfect spot right
right, because all miss
not expecting you to win national titles they
really care how you do your job just go. Do get it done
alabama yours, every little, tiny thing you do it out of arrogance. Scrutinise like this is the thing that
back in the day, Dennis french yoni ran away from alabama cause. He couldn't handle that you
are the biggest celebrity in state. You are more powerful than the governor and you have to be
able to accept that part of it and accept?
the scrutiny that comes with it in.
Does lane. What that I don't know, I really think he's in a great place at all miss for him. That said,
I think we have a lot of fun if you don't have to take to call right, yeah. Ok,
You are absolutely take the car who are right. Here's here's, a big one can earn Meyer.
We want it.
He'd. Why do you always under that? His name is popped up for
think he would have wanted. He would want this one
It would urban Meyer be successful in today's college. Football is my question
would he be able to deal with in ireland players having agency? We saw how badly it went when he's
the jaguars?
it's the same now in college football like you have to have.
Spectrum, your players and you can't tell them to send you on the next bus out of town, the because they'll be like peace out.
I'm going to go to auburn or I'm going to go to tennessee and I'm gonna beat your ass. So I don't think that that's
necessarily the the the greatest fit for this
of college for boys been ten years. Your eyes, it absolutely he's to kill people are, but
I thought dan leaning would be a good fit, but he said he's gonna stay at organ
that that ones that ones
I got got another name: yeah go ahead, your name this name- I I don't know if he'd want to leave the situation that he has cause. Obviously his a resounding success year, one, but to make a right.
Yet the meagre rise in alabama grad. I think you have to call him, but he just put the taxes in the play asked right, he's also never coached in college. So
That's the one word you're, not sure how he would go. I threw when I did a list of canada's. I threw might grable
there are now through day and quit on there.
but both of them have coached in college right. We ve seen them as recruiters. We know they're good, recurs now you,
academic orion's, you hear him talk
to make arise. Have any problem recruit recruit,
Mom's are goin
guys. If it cannot go looking at, I look at you. My son's come into play for you rat. Does that mean I get a look at you? Some more ok, but, but
I think I think you
all, but he's he's in a really gives, and I think anybody whose in the unifil right now
want to deal with, and I albert I want to deal with the transfer portal,
got a better like they get paid the same for less work idle,
yeah that makes sense. I add one more than I want here yet say just because you have very funny pete demo.
guy and I t stew caught this,
pete emeralds. We did that
eye out further coaches, the potentially be it alabama, and then he
the tweet
and added James franklin's name, so James franklin, clear his agent called pete animals like what amount it is an excellent way of forty. It was like.
Dan landing, sark weighing Kevin. And then you see you can look at the editor three in the james franklin gets put in there
gonna kill peed on that his peters.
peat is a hell of a reporter and
the honest I've gotten those calls to labour from the asian like eight. Why hasn't this kind on the list like that? I just forgot, but
the landing thing with the twenty million hour by hour. I think that organ had to do so,
to make sure that in lose their guy, could they lost? Will its accurate after a year to flora state and lost crystal ball in miami? So I think
that they wanted to make sure he stay. But
Kalen bore these twelve million dollar by out. I think it is
because I spent you know into in houston over the weekend, always
people. Ask me: why are you you think Caitlyn de boer might take Michigan harbaugh leaves like? I don't think you have to worry about that like if Harbaugh leaves I'm assuming, there
promoting shown more
but now that the seahawks job is open and in bam, job is open, unlike
who killed more money
might consider those he is.
He's a phenomenal coach and end been successful. Every level so think he'd be great, the other guy,
in this situation,.
For this fan base? I hope this doesn't happen, but
It makes a lot of sense is might nor velvet floor to state that makes sense. He's he's been recruiting in this area, like forty state has to recruit against alabama auburn georgia. Floor
alice you like that,
you're already in that world
it's not the same conference and we learned what
and when you are not the same conference when they went thirteen no and got left out
in favour of one lost alabama. So if they call
if you're might norville. I think you have to listen to that call yeah, because, because
you and now look to twenty laughs coming
that wouldn't have happened to forsake next year. You can
when it floor to state you'll be able to compete, but
will you be able to compete for national titles year in year out
no at alabama. We know you can ok. I like tat. What about dabble establishment?
all obviously alabama guy. Yet
courtesy call. Maybe
You can't win at alabama. If you don't use transfer portal right, yeah, I don't think alabama would want to abo, because he, if everything you said about nick saban adaptability, dabble shown to not be that.
yeah and that's the thing like unless tab comes into says. I won't be a completely different coach than you ve seen the last five years,
You think that's devil. I don't think that's him
I just can't imagine because, like
What next saving did in the transport- and it wasn't.
Was it a lot
but like Jamieson Williams, when they needed a really good receiver, they went and got it
the tyler, seeing that the tackle last year, they they went and got him. I don't think
it that dabba would be willing to. If he's not willing to do that now at clemson, why would he be willing to do it at alabama? You know this is probably not a good name for it, but I'm going to sit anyways, jimbo fisher, who
now. I do well,
as adaptable as nick Sabin was
Jimbo was that stubborn
think, that's that's!
they diverged. I mean, if you think,
but it jimbo was,
most probably the best guy after the guy
Was football history here
place Bobby bowed, and in three years later we want to national title now.
Little bit different situation has Bobby it had
some bad years before he left, but.
jimbo in twenty thirteen was at the front,
I've been the forefront of the sport.
And he's just not now and as
as great as he was in his great of a guest as he was last week. I just
Maybe he's he's gonna enjoy some of that by our money and not now
about this right now. I feel like the best guy after the guy for his own personal game was mel Tucker.
Will he get all know and it is now have save it. It's still been there. I would think MEL Tucker was a prime candidate to be an analyst at alabama right, yeah, oh yeah rehab. So why think?
guess Kirby has to start taking those guys now because malware kirby georgia? So
my guess is: is the next network
locksley. The maryland coach called it. The nick saban witless relocation program- I think Kirby's gotta- take that over now. I think it's probably in the contract, so so who's. Who would be your guess if you had to guess right now? A the weird thing is
they did say nick saban that I saw report did nick Saban was like
we're going to have someone in the next seventy two hours, so they're, gonna, move fast
Who would you guessed right now,
we're this on thursday, like I don't know, if they're gonna have, they might have a higher before this episode drops yeah, so it could be fast, so
If I'm wrong, you feel free to laugh at me here
I meant to say, might Morrell then
that is going to be my guess. It sounds mean, though it feels means even think about it. It does feel mean it does feel no for a safe, as will look at where I went to school and think that's why, but I'm just
I'm just connecting dots here? That's all I'm doing, but I
I could very well be wrong, so everybody feel free to laugh. If I got this wrong
I do. It does feel, like
and when you hear landings already out like this,
this move and pretty fast yeah. I've got my best plain tracking guy on it so
I've got a plain tracking guy because it is plain tracking seizings. I use knowledge and ineffective. He
sleep dear me yesterday morning and said: hey
I think saving his retiring today based on these flights that are going from
like his home town,
two alabama so
had this earlier. I've got my best guy. I know that you have.
A long sword. History dealing with plain trackers, ol boy playing to the vat rate,
Oh it's only why so yeah, I feel, like I knew about flight aware
long before anybody else, and I
actually was the reason that the universal floor to block their tail number on flight. Aware when I was a beat writer.
I had written story about it after they hired urban mire, but the funniest part
during that search. So I was
covering forty four, the temperature view. Jeff Darlington was covering it for the orlando sentinel he's withdrew the sba, and now he he sees
He sees a flight going from salt lake city. To gains will florida
which is a stray like not normal they're, not direct flights between those two places
Obviously urban meyer was at utah.
so, he goes to the airport happen. I,
call him, because I knew it wasn't.
the higher wasn't ready made we both find out and outside it, and
like what what was the plane he goes. It was a liver
yeah, someone's life is being saved, but those are the best livers I would imagine, would be in utah right exactly exactly so. Some some florida man was getting a nice utah, liver, utah, oliver years or so
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Does this person have because it is like it's a great job?
It also comes with a lot of pressure.
So I could give the politically correct all it's going to be fine. There are going to be a little more realistic and
you know you don't have to wear national title every now now screw it.
Paul this there better wait every breaking game you your job in alabama, when the national title every year, that is your job yadda, certainly save in doing a package with Phyllis would be incorrect. Data rotated, she's, pass boat out of an amazing euro coins, seance yeah. We are bored with all the great scholar. So if, if the new guy doesn't when the national title in three years, maybe also goes to the play off two out of those three years, wins it s easier budget, but no national title.
Is it going to be like is alabama gonna have patience knowing that yet patients,
It is probably better in this situation that I would go back and keep find new kosher.
or they gonna lose it and be like this is
no one can feel saving shoes,
Alabama fanbase will not be patient
the administration,
given like. If, if the
the person is making reasonable progress toward national titles active there in the play off if their wings.
play off games there
The administrations probably gonna be fine with that, but the fan base will be raising wholly hell
if they're, not winning national titles in three years. The alright tough job to fill very tough to a hurry, tough job to remember when they did their coaching search was at price that a sports illustrated wrote that article about go. Read that article. If you haven't yet about the things that that price was, was it a mark price?
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different okay, we ve now welcome on a very special guest,
someone who is very, very smart about football, much smarter than us, and we ve never quite fully understood
How smarty is it is errant chats he's its
analytics officer
empty and fantasy. I could find of it,
after and fantasy, or at eight.
That's nfl official.
Created, devious away.
and we want. I want to play off, but we have to start here because p of tea- and I think
were huge football fans
we understand- were smart enough to understand the devious, always smarten important
We have never understood what actually is dv away. So, let's start there.
Ok, dv away measures the success of every play
Based on the down and distance
and then compares it to a league average baseline.
just for situation and opponent
that's the short version, then zero means good objects,
lower than zero means good deepened,
and overall adjust measure efficiency on a play by pay
ok, better than zero means good. Often so, can you gimme example like in the nfl this year
is the best team in terms of office of dv away.
What is the number that's associated with them? So
san Francisco was it about thirty two percent,
Oh god is actually one of the top ten offices of the last forty years. Well, ok,
Ok good to know, and who is the worst team this year,
The worst often was the new york through our interests carry so so it's basically everything that we see is being
confirmed by the numbers
right I mean sometimes advanced, metrics dont, quite look like wings and losses right, a really good example. This year is back after week, twelve
Buffalo was sixty six.
Philadelphia was ten in one
and yet we had buffalo fifth and we
philadelphia nights
right, so sometimes advanced metrics will look a little bit different than the eye test because it felt like the eagles were winning a lot of close games and the bills were turning the ball over a lot. But when you looked at the underlying metrics
the bills. Looked like the better team,
and that was borne out by the rest of the seas, yes, so when that happens, and then you have the rest, the season you have the eagles, far off a cliff and the bills finnish out with winds to get the number to cede. Are you just like fish pumping here like yes, everything that I've created is true yeah
Secondly, I feel like I've been, I think anybody who does does anybody. It wasn't the advanced metrics world like we all like to be,
right. We like to be proven right. I mean we want games to be fun and interesting and players to make cool place,
and everybody has a team they route for on the patriots fan, but not a could you.
for us? So I was more rooting for my numbers than I was the patriots this year, yeah so so back to dvr a real quick. When did you invent it and like? What can you just tell us the backstory of of the invention of it and like how you tinkered with
it to fine tune it to get get to a point where you like
trust these numbers, and I trust what they're telling me
yeah, two thousand too, is when I started doing it. I started playing around with football analytics when nobody else was really doing it
I was inspired by a book called the hidden game of football that came out in the eighties,
and then had a new edition in the ninety. So I have the nineties edition.
Are you can actually go and buy that book now they re published it. While I wrote the forward to the republic asian.
So that gave me the basic idea for success rate
which was to judge.
is based on the down and distance. You know forty five percent of needed yards on first down so like five yards
sixty per cent on second down a hundred percent on the them?
And then I added to that by comparing players to average
because when I originally did it
I ended up with. Might all start as the best running back in the least goods good yeah sure should ended right there
but the problem is all start when the reason why else that came out so good is because he always gets the ball in situations where success is more likely like third and one right. So when I read did it by comparing to a baseline, I ended up with priest holmes as the best running back in the league, and that made more sense. You screwed up your share of all you. Had it right with all stop a perfect yeah that gets to you. What you were you accidentally did was you quantified,
Have you ever have you ever tried to make a start to quantify the unqualifiable
no man. What I say is intangibles are called intangibles because they are intangible. I accept
I kind I kind of green, but I think that mean big cat- could give you some parameters for like how to quantify.
It like the number of winds a team has in cold weather, like you have to wait, cold weather games limit more, you have to wait.
like the percentage of roster breakdown?
what players they have from like pennsylvania and ohio unease that sort of thing than other players at play injured
no, no, they warm allergies uniform cause you're having. While others are very important that you need yak yoga, you can have candy ass. You get another dolphin exit dolphins there. They do bad owner grit metric right, but what is dv away plus, who.
Oh I'm not sure where use saw dv away a lot of you should make a dvd hope, dv away planning in tv alive. A thing called waited dv away. Ok
europe is waited towards more recent game. Silk is more strike the more recent games
but yeah we could add great. I've been my favorite potions. Are the coaches
Dan Campbell
we're both analytically sound and want a replica
yeah yeah yeah. They have the combo, the perfect combo art. So talking about deviate this year,
and end legacy. We want to what the play off matches, but what is the one team that did not make the playoffs
that you were like they were way better than people realize
what's the one team it's in the playoffs
They are like this is not.
The signs of a play off team
There wasn't really a team like that this year that didn't make the playoffs but was really good. The closest is jacksonville who finished tenth, but they almost made the playoffs and they faded. At the end
I mean the charges were a little higher than you might expect,
and the other way around. There won't really any bad teams.
That made the play off the lowest team in DV. Away that made the play ass was tampa bay at eighteen.
So none of the teams that were twentieth are below made the play off this year. It's actually kind of a weird year like that. Usually there's like something like
Last year's vikings giants bad teams that make it anyway and
a really good teams that don't make as they don't have a good enough record,
the issue that didn't happen.
Ok. What about what about against the spread? I would like to harness the power of your brain for financial gain,
If you look at the first round match up, is there one where the spread doesn't really line up?
with what the numbers say
yeah. The biggest one for me is philadelphia and cap a bag.
I actually in my projections, I have camp obey very, very slightly favour, oh
and I believe the line is philadelphia by two and a half yeah.
If you, if you look at the weighted numbers,
to give more weight to recent games Tampa bay, fifteenth philadelphia is twenty. First, they ve just completely fallen apart.
I mean you know it's not ridiculous. To think philadelphia can win
but I mean I think, it's kind of a fifty fifty shot and so given the line I would take Tampa or I'd, buy the extra half a point and take tampa plus three. So when you say waited like this is accounting for the team you're playing cause if you're playing a bad team, you're, obviously going to have more success as a kid counts for the game situation, I would assume, like you know, a blow out you you throw out those fourth quarter, pound weight of plays in the fourth quarter and blow out yet. But when I specifically talk about weighted d v away, that means waited
the end of the season. Ok
That's right! That's it! That's why that makes sense. I'm an idiot! You did say that, so
firms of these play off teams.
we we like water. What are some red flags for certain teams like four exam?
I know, the rams special team is like horrifically back
so like what are other red flags that you see in your numbers that people
maybe don't see or not, expecting good or bad
like this team is playing way better than people think or this
team this phase of the game
they are struggling and this is gonna, be a red flag for them. Come J,
well. I mean some of these are things that people
no, like people know that the packers defences decline. I think people
but the texans can't run the ball. I
People know that the chiefs are bad against the run that that's a really interesting one, because the dog
funds are third running the ball and achieve
sir twenty seventh against the wrong, and you think it's gonna be
of freezing cold you're gonna depend on the run.
Except the dolphins, don't that's not a power running gave its like a misdirection and speed running game. So I don't know: is that really better in the coal right?
you know that's right yet arraignment ass running
The chiefs have definitely declined in the second half of the season. I think everybody knows that about the offence, but their defence has declined a little bit too
the second half of the season,
the lions were number one and run defence, which is
wow. Where did that come from you, dont? Think of them is having the personnel to be really good against the one
and tyrant Williams was really good for the rams this year. So that's like a really good,
match up this year
I also have some numbers that breakdown players, like with blitz, is verses not places. For example,
stroud suggest. Drought is not as good if you blitz him and the
rounds. Defence is insanely good when they blitz three point five yards play.
with a minus forty five percent tv away when they,
it's so they should blitz drought,
What about the grounds office? It feels like flak o stepping in
you ve seen a lot of good flock. Oh, he does have a couple: those interception for her just saying I'll fuckin throw down field
sometimes it works- is almost kind of upon so
in flat goes in his like example, in particular due weight.
Interceptions based on
thirty yard interception that might be
defence up as opposed to-
Somebody undercutting like a curl route
yeah a good example is Josh Alan this here right Josh and we have a lot of interceptions.
but a lot of them were either on forced down right where you
if it is incomplete and an interception are no different,
they were like deep interceptions.
and yet because what I do is I measure interceptions based on where the line of scrimmages
and where the ball went, and what's that
average return based on that right, because if you throw an interception at the line of scrimmage,
We are more likely to be returned as a pic sex
then, if you watch it down, field for forty are
so yeah. We weigh interceptions based on like how long ago wrestle with the browns and their case their defence, as you mentioned incredible, especially when they blitz
on their often seems to be served
that seems to be doing enough
is there a historical comparison to these browns, that could tell you that they have the ability to make this rule.
in a good historical comparison, would be the two thousand ravens yeah
the two thousand ravens defence,
not as good in the regular season as people think it is once you adjust for who their opponents were that year
they were fantastic against the wrong, but they didn't have a lot of sense by
without a serviceable offence and the defence got hot in the play off and played better than it had in the regular season and was like insane and the superbowl
and they want at all.
So I mean that would be a good comparison for this year's,
Do you have so? I know KEN palm who does college vaseful analytics? He always has like heres a list of ten teams that historically are able to win the title. It's never
deviated from now.
Do you have a list of teams that they have
Be this this in this in the three phases of the game
and we ve never had a winner outside of that
nah because there have been some weird ones in the last twenty years. One of the interesting things.
Is I have dv away going back to nineteen eighty one, the top teams
Eighty one to two thousand
one more likely to win the superbowl, then the top,
comes from two thousand one till now, and you can
teams, like the two thousand and seven giants in the two thousand and eleven giant that if you try,
to create some sort of base line and said
You have to be this tall to ride. The superbowl right, they wouldn't be that tall,
I gave you also it's hard to say that, like even the best
We must indeed be away.
Don't win the superbowl as often as you think they should.
a lot of the lost in the divisional round, like the eighty seven forty niners in the twenty ten patriot
twenty nineteen ravens, who are a little bit of a cautionary tale for ravenstein,
Europe's interests, you mentioned the other niners as being the best team in terms of office of deviation.
what is the best team in terms of defence of dvd
we have baltimore number one
at minus twenty three
cleveland number, two at minus twenty one o clock-
So baltimore can you talk to celebrate about baltimore because it seems like their office is different. It's much too
from the two thousand nineteen team that you mention.
So interesting.
Because Lamar jackson was more efficient as a passer in twenty nineteen, but phil watchers will tell you that he's
better as a passer. This year, like as far as light
progressing off his first read and not necessarily scrambling first thing that he's a better passer this year,
resting yeah so that so the ravens elite on defence. How is their orphans there often with
worth, but that includes the storm game with Tyler hunch were playing hunted, tyler humbly planning. If you before weak eighteen, they were sacked awry.
Our it so and then now going back real quick to special teams, eggs, I do
I'm always vassar with it, especially in january, play football because it feels like a lot
people forget special teams, and then you see it in
in point. Awful boards, like the ears amiss, kick or
here's you know, even like the forty niners giants,
And if you change your game, where they fumbled a bunch of punts, so who is
ah the best and the worst special teams units going into these play off that we can make. This is an edge that people aren't probably see.
The best special teams unit this year was philadelphia, who ok
although historically they were not as good as the best special teams unit. Usually is.
Jake Elliot. The kicker is very good the up and the worst by four. By far
was the ramp yeah bands worthy sixth, worst special teams unit in tv away, history.
Like a really bad hunting pluck coverage and feel go kicking I mean they achieve feel, go kicker like a hundred and thirty seven times, yeah their special teams.
It almost cost them against the giant.
It absolutely cost them the game against the ravens right, punt return, touchdown in overtime
their special teams.
Yeah, and so would you say like this:
Is? It would be a statistical anomaly if the rate, if the rams figure out a way to win the super bowl, because in a four game playoff, because they don't have a bye,
At some point, that's going to rear it's ugly head, it's going to show up and it's going to show up in a bad way.
Yeah. I would say it's likely that that will happen at some point along the way. Also, their defence is not good.
Their defences like twenty second right?
it was great- is their office has been for the last few weeks and it has been really good for the last few weeks
The defense is mare and the special teams are terrible and it's really hard to make it through four wins like that yeah, so the lions run. Defense, you said, is number one, which is that's very surprising to me to hear
because at one another difference is bad, but maybe their past events is just
economically bad. So what is their past? Events wrecked europe
ass defences
team on the season, but its twenty fifth since week, ten,
Oh guy, who are very jacobs in particular, just fell apart, ok
Ok in terms of looking underrated, individual player in these.
Lay offs somebody that might not be
no household names, superstar
but is there somebody that jumps out to you is being like? Hey statistically?
guys actually playing very, very well right now. Oh that's, tough
because a lot of the players that are coming to minor guys that everybody knows I mean, I think not. Everybody knows how good cairo Williams was this year, the rams running back me up,
I think people don't realize how good levanter David the linebacker frontier obey still is. We have a staff that we keep called defeat
which is a cop basically mean splash, plays turnovers tackles for loss, plays the prevent or third or fourth
conversion and David is like in the top five every year of his career,
and this year he's like sixth seventh, even though he's older like,
still really really good
That's it. That's a good one! There were that people don't have come mind. Can we talk real, quick now, full disclosure we are
josh, Alan guys, friends with him
We get criticise a lot because people watch the game, any
I have one or two interceptions feels like a game where people like he stinks.
We don't think he sting
What are your number say in terms?
how josh Aoun is. Overall,
taking into account that he will turn the ball over
yeah. So I have a very interesting history with Josh Alan, because the method that we use to project quarterbacks from college hated him
and at my old site we said some mean things about him when he was a prospect,
and said that he basically had a two percent chance to become good
and he did I love, which are able to you, like my numbers, said yeah yeah, there's you'd inciting ziyadi. I mean you know I mean I said it in rivers. Mcgown wrote mean things about him in our book in like he.
Keep he one man he came out and was awesome, and he absolutely is also despite the interceptions like I said
The interceptions that Alan throws are for the most part,
as bad because they tend to be down, feel grown fort down, and we don't talk about.
Fact that he had the lowest sack rate down any quarter,
This is a right. Those negative place too, and he doesn't
take a lot of sack so like he was,
He quarterback value. I think we had him. Third,
year in total quarterback value, including passing and running, or he may have been second
and unlike brought purty he's not helped by the scheme,
teammates in the same way right there's this general sense that.
You plug anyone in the san francisco orphans and they wouldn't be as good as purty, but they'd be good right
that's not true- of the buffalo
so allow and does so much more of it on his own,
it's a really interesting thing at the top of the league right now, because you have this group of quarterbacks
There are definitely helped along by scheme in town to a garth birdie.
And then you have this group of guys who are like
really do it on their own mohamed, Alan Lamar, jackson, tat prescott,
oh that's that's! It should so yeah thy working to clip this interests in the shove this in everyone's face next time, Josh frozen interception because this is
It is good to know because it does feel like those-
our backs that can win in spite sometime.
Are the ones that are winning scruples words like bacon. They can come to carry everyone, it's not there.
air? There doing a good job, but if things start fall apart, they fall apart, pretty quickly as well
yeah, I mean digs declined a little bit this year.
You know and they had kincaid, but you you look at the receivers that he has right. Look
I think the receivers that he has are as good as the receivers that Lamar jackson has in baltimore
I went everybody's healthy right, yeah right. He has Odell back home and he has a flowers and he has bateman
You know when Andrews is healthy and widely is pretty good.
You know, buffalo he's got kincaid and he's got. Digs predicts declined a little bit this year and
Here, as you know, has his talents, but he's not like a great receiver and gave Davis is pretty mercurial, so
yeah yeah. We always talk about flipping the switch which seems like flip that switching to play off and it feels like the chiefs always get discussed in that conversation exam,
this year this year everyone is kind of written them. All
Is there a struggle example of a team? That's able to just flip the switch
get from really bad to really good without
What about adding like a key player having a a kepler come back from injury at a time?
as an example of a team dislike turning it on in the playoffs,
yeah I mean there are a lot of examples in history of teams that didn't have their best regular seas.
in the year they wanna championship.
A really good example is the twenty twelve ravens.
like the twenty. Twelve ravens were better in the regular season in the years before and after that year, but flat
got hot,
and their defence played much better in the play off than it has in the regular season, and they flip the switch and they went on IRAN and they won. The whole thing. Yeah go in absolutely happens like as much as by numbers love.
Ravens and forty niners ahead of everyone else,
every chance that one of these other teams does it that they flip the switch and they just go on a four game run where they play really well and they went at all. What what's your favorite like statistical anomaly like that in terms of super pass, who rule winners where you like? Did you actually know the disapproval winner like there? They were their defense was not only and they did they did for the switch
I mean I'm a patriot span, so my favorite, not as good superbowl winner, is the two thousand and one patriots
You know that was very early in my football phantom days and it was a wonderful experience. They had never one before in Boston had won a title on anything in years and that was banned
but the team that really stands out, though, is the two thousand and eight arizona cardinals, even though they couldn't win at all at the end
because that team is the worst.
The away team to ever makes the super bowl in part b.
They played a game in the snow in new england laid in the season where they got killed by, like forty point
Like I always think that is the game where the patriot, one by so much that I went out to shovel snow
in the second half and didn't even watch it, because
The game was the one sided,
and yet arizona bounced back and made it to the super bowl and nearly won the super bowl. It also is a game that probably made Kurt warner hate outdoor football yeah. He walks everywhere. Now it makes sense, yeah or okay, so
This is all fastening you you mentioned you, you do some draft stuff
like. I know you probably aren't finished with everything, but right now,
like kale Williams. Drake may Jane Daniels. What are your your number saying in terms of success?
Haven't done any of it yet occasionally I don't have an answer for you. I do know that the film people that I tend to trust.
our higher on jaded Daniels. Then I think
Rest of the public is right. Now, ok,
and I know that it matters
That Michael panics is older,
right like the fact that he's what does he played six years in college like that matters? When you compare him, two guys got three or four years, because the
amount of development space that he has. The nfl is gonna, be less cause he's coming into the legal right. Ok,
interesting. So what is what
the next step up? What's a number that mean begat should know and tat.
About, so we can feel smarter than everybody else
I mean everything that nfl next Jan stats is doing, is pretty awesome and
I love sam schwartz dine and the thursday night amazon prime next june stats broadcast
the big data ball competition this year is about cackling and trying to measure cackling, better and just number of cattle.
So there's gonna be some really interesting stuff. That comes out of that. During the combine
The others tat, I would say, is kevin kohl, who used to work for
for focus and now does his own thing called unexpected points on substance
Has a really cool, plus minus metric that, based on like grouping players, it's complicated statistical analysis,
but allows him to come pair, the value of players at different position.
and to each other, including like office, comparing office of linemen too,
all players when you're talking about often supplier of the year, which is very hard to do.
So I would say to check out cabins blog, unexpected points and his plus minus death
is a pre awesome staff
I like the idea that so we could actually end up in a world where we could put trent Williams next,
took my homes and say like which is the better player.
Yeah, although port first of all, quarterbacks just because they touched the bonn every play. Quarterbacks will always come out, is the most valuable players in the leg.
This year, penny Sewell,
he has been a saw as the top
offensive, Lyman part because Williams, MR complicate yeah
What about quarterback wins? Actually,
I'll. Just that question little. But what
out. Can you talk about quarterback raiding the quarterback rating system that we ve all grown up with goes up
Hundred fifty eight point: three, I think, is the perfect game
do they just invent that are they are some guidance. Is watching tv news like
using a hundred forty seven game. What goes into quarterback rating
Is it a valuable staff, for anybody me at the problem with quarterback rating? Is that it is built to measure quarterbacks in nineteen seventies, not quarterbacks
and the game is changed. Quarterbacks
have higher completion rates, lower yards protest?
they throw fewer interceptions, sir?
the like numbers, the way the numbers working quarterback rating. That's why, when you look at lists of best quarterback rating, ever it's like Steve young,
and then all modern, quarterback right
because it's not designed to it
Designed to measure modern, quarterback
and on top of that, it doesn't include sacks.
It doesn't include rushing and it's not adjusted for opponent.
so there's a lot of reasons why other advanced stats are better to use the pastor reading. What's
and what's the the the best team to lose the super, I assume it will be the eighteen and one patriots but Ilya what what's the second best team than just so we can give a ring to someone
some fan base that that should have deserved
second best team that lost
The superbowl I I know the second best team that didn't the best him that didn't make it to the superbowl
is the two thousand and ten patriots who
lost to the jets in the divisional round. In the
wes welker joked about
rex ryan's put fetish and got suspended for the first quarter gay. I think that the best
theme in tv away that lost
Super bowl is the nineteen eighty three washington
skins home- and I very much other worrying- that's what we have to allow the loss to the raiders, but they were like really really good.
During the regular season, and that was a very surprised that was a really surprising super bowl. I think Marcus Allen just ran through her face in that game. Nicholas II, hunter S, Thompson wrote a whole thing about it. It was painful and
What's the best team, I think I know the answer this actually put.
what's the best team-
in terms of dv away. That has not even made the playoffs.
Going back to nineteen eighty one, the best team that miss the play off with the two thousand and four buffalo bill,
what we thought was going to be the chargers where they were number one and number. I think there are a number of really good on offense defense. Special teams cost it yeah because in part, because I'm measuring specialty right
the best teams that MR play off are the two thousand and four bills and then
a bunch of those dick vermeer, chiefs hears ha entered
its interests? They were number one in defence and special teams that here,
went into weak. Seventeen and all they had to do was beat the pittsburgh backups to make the playoffs and they couldn't do it
it wants to Tommy Maddox unwilling,
So what about the steelers this year? The yours I feel like they broke everybody's brain because they know they were getting out gain and there were finding a way to win game. Some
They had inconsistent quarterback play inconsistent, often just across the board. In general,
But what do your stats tell you about the much more recent version
pittsburgh steelers. Are they a legit?
they often what do they deserve to be in this place in these player
yeah. They do dv away likes pittsburgh more than other metrics do this year in part, because the opponent adjustments, they played a really really hard schedule of defences in the first half when their often sucks so bad
overall for the season. They actually come out, fifteenth on orphans and then sixth on defence.
Other dappling like in that grouping with like
scenario, jacksonville missing the play off, but houston and green bay mare, making the play often
their definitely a logic
play off team. There are yet tenant. Seven, it's not it's not like there like twenty fifth.
Not get some third grown up against the bills, none have point underdogs
It wasn't about right,
yeah with t J watch out.
I mean if you ask me who I would taken that game, I would take steelers plus nine and a half it's hard to quite quantified.
How much it means to lose t J. What, but I do feel like
because the bills are so inconsistent.
Yeah, there's a reasonable chance that they're going to win but they're going to win. You know they're going to make it closer than it needs to be right and that's a pretty big line
yeah. When you take t J, wot off the steelers and and the fact is pick, it was a little bit better than rudolf
once you, which, once you would just for the sketch.
We ve been saying we have years are not quite as good eye they work earlier near.
Well, there's been, there's been fascinating era and we really appreciate your time. I have one last questions: robot question: r, H, o b, a c k, dot com, promo code, take twenty percent off your first purchase. Q,
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I'm going to have you back on, because I could I can listen to these numbers and
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My last question to you is
We know the ravens and forty diners
what are your number say as the team that the third team that
Ok, this team people, maybe not talking about because it is all ravens for yonder's right now. We do then a lot with one seat. But what does that thirteen?
the number two teams and each conference are pretty clearly buffalo in Dallas? Ok,
while that'd be not just the number two seeds, but the number
teams by both dv away and waited towards the end of the season tv away
our deftly buffalo dallas, so somebody's gonna win this thing other than san francisco or baltimore
It's probably going to be
buff, lower Dallas and there's a good chance that dallas breaks that ridiculous streak of not making it too conference championship game. Since ninety, ninety five or whatever
that would be quite the superbowl. Oh, my god, allergy credible,
I almost feel bad for bills. Fans advances that yeah. That would be
I'll, be tough to mentally get ready. For that. I talk to a cowboys guide, the cowboys podcast, and they were talking about what would be the most emotionally satisfying path for the cowboys and he was like
We want to build a super bowl and play the bills again. Why here want that's that meaningful?
boys fans; they want the bills, that's mean yeah. They want to hurt you.
it does not satisfy you. Ve already got your satisfy you, I mean the satisfactory thing I would assume would be to beat the ravens or to beat the maybe the chiefs be Patrick mahometans. That's what I'd have to beat the ravens, because the ravens were so good this year, but he felt like
It would be more meaningful because the history that they saw me that's chicken, shit analysis. He just knows the wind
this history tells us that when I will errant take you so much really appreciate it. Man,
ever go form a shots and fell on twitter,
the FDA fantasy.
Work, so thanks so much we appreciate it and it was. It was great talking
yeah man. It was really great. You do the show empty and fantasy dot com, slash dv away. That's where you find all my stuff
you said twitter and threads and other social networking sites.
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