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get to know the human behind the title behind the position behind what It do in the world and spot and shine a light on mental health. We talk about so much. the things that he's gone through in his personal life, I'm so If all that I got to have this conversation that were going to share with the world at large and make sure that mental health is a mainstream conversation. Exit so integral to all of our lives. I hope you enjoy this conversation. Thank you for your loving support means the world to me Everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one health and wellness podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to learn. Sin and grow. Now You know our mission here is to make the world happier healthier and more healed and I believe that learning about people's stories of healing of grief of loss of growth is a powerful way to do that.

And today I've been graciously invited to the white house. and I'm sitting with mr president- and I am so grateful and honour to be here and to have you on our platform and for you to choose our platform. To have this conversation, Can it be more on a thank you so much? I q you slowly. I want you to do me absolutely well, dr straight in the first question, had lied to us? You is what is your earliest child memory. That you believe defines who you are today. In the person you ve become the Earl This memory- I have is there's two of them. One is the razor boy in the neighborhood lived down a narrow called apply. We lived up. The hill, and those are my friends in the alley behind our house to my mother was at the pantry. Looking out, the tough guy neighbourhood smack music appears on them.

Yeah. I came in holding on my face who my grandfather was at the kitchen table and sweat matter. Joey and his as a shame I walked into my mother, said: joy. Go back out there, so cut back out duration, walk up to wait till he walks up to you as soon as he does smack em right in the nose, she's, an organ, fifty cents. If you do as why mom she said, you won't be able I can add value. If you doubt I was scared As I walked out popped him in the nose bled rather than I thought, they were worked better. I think. The lesson I learned the most hours I used to study badly and talk like like lie like that: I'd catch, my rhythm and wherever and It was something that there I thought where's. The worst curse can happen. Enricos everybody makes fond of her. I had.

similar experience with being bullied so that residence. Very strongly with me. I think everybody dies. I was the run of the letter, Nor was, I was a little guy nanda outside utterly good ass. We even when I was a kid by tat. I literally was the run to the letter, for me. It was my weight. I was were growing up and it was the color my skin. I grew up in an area where I wasn't surrounded by. A lot of indian people and said those were the two reasons except my mother didn't give me that advice. Sometimes I wish she did. My mother did the opposite. She actually care into my school and spoke to the teachers reaches roy embarrassing at the agent? You don't know how Ivano. I think. Maybe it is. You know a similar thing. I when I was in, I went to catholic grade school and high school and you sit with. No, they sat in alphabetical order. I was enough the show by new for people down and real, class everybody read a paragraph I got to my parents.

and I remember was because I should try to memorize it rather have to look at the world, renowned, rereading tumors, and I said, and he a gentleman and the teacher. So what's up MR mine. He managed to manage a gentleman, but it's easier tonight. gender, so gentle man- I said gentlemen, Mr Bob, by what is that an I got up and walked out and walked home was about two miles. My mother was sitting there tap on the table. When I walk, you should get in the car went down the car. They went to the principal's office. Sat me outside the door. The doors cranny always knows or pay classes. Glass windows. You didn't go to the ceiling. Any way to make a long story short. She said I'd like to speak to the teacher. My mother said- and she said, MRS by said, I'd like to speak to the teacher, so the teacher walked in and looked at me like you're in trouble. Now Biden walked and sat

it a cracker too I'll? Never forget this and my mother, Catherine Eugenia finnegan Biden and cheer she looked at. I guess it But what should you say to my son? She said: did you say bub Biden, I'm just trying to make a poem, mrs by him, she said if you ever do that again I'll come back and rip that bonnet off your head. You understand me. I swear to god watch out, go back to class joy but you know it Everybody is something that is tough, particularly when you younger can make such a differ. When, when somebody reaches out I'm sure you have also had some experience. You some say come on. I, for example, more than a handful young study ass, a young anymore, that I still keep in touch with it. One young kids die

he reduced me when I ran for president, took such courage, because he to talk touched to talk like like that and he practice the practice. The practice, a profound impact on life. No young man when I was a vice president, I would like it. you can tell us stutter if you're stutter, just by one year, in line with his mom was in tennessee and do anything for Al Gore and she'll do I could see him go left. I said Today, I am about to finish my speech. Weren't you help me right. Mother looked at medium, took a man. I showed him how our market my speeches, so that I can get a little cadence with did, did you ever see a movie? The king speech? Yes, of course, well, the gentleman who had come at a copy of the king speech. Do

tell me a copy of my book with me, but there's a guy. When these days I show you my speeches. I looked at and a marked in the same way, every speech I mark up in the same way you think they were- see that smash marks. I pronoun yes! Well, just to help me, but people reached out to me too. Maybe that impediments best thing ever happened to me. it's incredible is into her way challenge you're going through actually helps you become more compassionate and empathetic towards other people, it's kind of human nature for most people, when you are stand? The pains? feeling. Your first instinct is look We we ever expression far away from the time. I was a kid. It's all my shown up to me to be. There

I mean I imagine the time to a new down, because they're, making fun of european heritage on all white population you haven't some come up and says: hey come on, you may lead to bomb, makes differed absent. yeah I'll! Never forget you just reminded me in windows was his name? Is the toughest kid in school and he had my back tat. Was that some are reached out to his her genuine added value. who had made their problem with him. Have you care care? How very fell very soon, It really is on about reaching I mean for of all the young people today, I think, there's more anxiety, loneliness today than theirs ben a long long time. You know my friend, I appointed him admiral, the mcmurphy.

He was telling me about the you, the percentage of young people today who are fairly lonely alone. I sometimes it is touching to show up. I used to get my the sea son beau, who should be set at a me. What I always say dad you know tat make I know I'd I'd, get on a plane and go home because someone had her serious. how was the wife and daughter, and I a tale of time when he passed away, the hundreds of people told me how he called He showed up use their agenda because people shown for me too, is really matters.

You ve been through you mention a day you ve been through so much tragic loss in your life. Is you just mentioned there? You didn't run for president seen twenty sixteen shortly after the loss of your son, you ve lost your first wife and daughter. Now I refer gaps it in. I can't even begin to understand how someone Has the courage to process that much loss in grief, let alone move forward in the way you have its truly admirable? How did you begin, I had an overwhelming advantage in the loss, and that was I had a really close family. That was there, for example, when my wife and daughter were killed. My first wife and my two boys were very badly. Attracted learn brought chance. I wasn't it was not the acts when I got home from the hospital. My

Is your husband already gave up their apartment and moved in how we raise my kid? My brother, when we lived in a suburban area with more countries and suburban, and there was no barring barn or garage bar and my my brother came in. He turned the loft of the barn into an apartment for himself. They were there for me all the time that was a gigantic difference. My best friend in my life and my sister and my brothers so I had an enormous advantage and I think that when you see people or gone through something tough- It doesn't matter if you reach out, I made it does matter. I, for example, Will you now you hammer when you're a senator fraud years? I was in a small state. You know so many people on people pass wage, the way through the shoe known when what was happening. I learned in early on people stoppages coming, throw their arms around me.

because if they know you know the pain they feel they get some solace in it? It's not always easy, but it's a it. Just matters us to suggest just reach out let people know you see them. How did you allow yourself to receive that help to? I feel like you were mentioning earlier with the loan. innocent anxiety that exists. A lot of people either struggled to know to say. I think we live in a society where people are born. Why say They ve gone out there and the opposite end. What you just said, being able to be open enough to actually receive help requires a certain amount of origin strength as well. Well, I was raised Family for real, extended family, my grandparents as well, where the danish pressure farmers beginning misled?

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that sometimes, if you have deep face whether year, you now catholic, protestant, hindu, jewish muslim, whatever my family, when I again an important message to me: they tapered on the mirror the bathroom it's not a z. Wake up in the morning and knowledge is on the mirror. I guess I was down we're currently on a mission aggravated ten years ago I was down some and my daughter, ashley taped on my she's. A social worker taped on my mirror happiness is something something to do someone to love and something to look forward to your dad. You have all those does your mind you. I think what you just said about the smiled before the terror is probably one of the real things I've ever heard. I think we often trying to create a world in which we only have smiles and where we ve oppression,

selves and the people around us to be forever happy, and will you just said there was was really really resin It moved me really hit me. Actually the idea that you all cry it will happen, but tiny smiled at you experience, even through a lost, even through green, your fortunate that you got to have that experience that allowed you to find that smile at that time, and I the you ve been through so many obstacles in your life. But I'd love to know you see as the relationship between vulnerability and strength, specially as a leader because I think leaders have an over arching pressure to this. play strand in a certain way? I'll give an example. A coach several see owes and individuals, athletes and others And one of the sea owes you leads a law is your organization called me. A few months ago we were working through some things together

One point I said to them. I said it would be really wonderful for you to tell your team that you lead. What you ve been going through in growing through they said J. I don't know. If I can tell them, I don't if I can tell them And I said why, and they said well, because it will. like I'm weak, said to them will know being vulnerable in sharing your growth is the greatest strength. That's not a weakness, but that because so many leaders feel left to portray a certain type of strength. Today, I can see there's a grace in the way you wish it well, I have a rule that I thought everybody. My my staff new, I had when I was a centre for a long time had one point and on how to measure, but I had the same staff longest than anybody in the senate at the time.

Jeff, we're doing a very, very important supreme court hearing our chairman judiciary committee, and we worked very hard. And did all the research you know anyway, there is one young man would people saves invaluable views. The guy. You knew all the detail about her too. and I found out that he was having trouble at home, and I said I want you to go home. Don't come to the area said. I cannot go home, go home. Why? Because I you would go thousand bosses. Barely one me! No one and so I know when I had crises at home, raising the boys were. I went home The dunno, how many years ago it was but in this job it is vice president, another person was having some trouble at home and I found out about, I said: go home

They said no! No. I can't! I guess. If you don't go home, I'm going to fire, you go home. He relationship is a hell lot more important than whatever you're doing for me. such a rule, we have not a joke absolutely not are you and you never have to tell me why. Are you gotta say is not can be. If I take it, you weren't turns out you're playing games with me I'll learn, but I know you to take the time do not get any better than your relationship but what you re talking about- and I think you have asked my staff- I don't know better- I think they wanted. They now that's more important, more important, Whatever, specifically you do at the moment. For me, how do you play that rule when it feels like what they are working on? Their specific moment seems obviously to be The most important thing in the world: how do you because

there's only one advantage to getting older- experience and there to apply a little it really critical and by the way you selfish aspect too, because when I have a problem with someone. Your lover, some problem here, I do with it and you can't even performers exactly right, yeah, absolutely you've. every day for years had to make difficult and stressful decisions highs, takes hugely impactful and so many people you're making decisions. Do you follow? You had your heart, you got. How do you think about this? decision making. I dont how to separate the three men tat. My heart brings me to the problem. My gut tells me when I think I want to do

But my head, meaning the research back, sometimes says that's wrong. Answer I think you're driven by evaluation, No, what you value! You know what you think is important in life. You know what you think is consequential and I think people who, what they value, demeanor, better work, if you follow your value so to me, you're, gonna, basically, my dad used have an expression for real joy. Everyone is entitled to be treated with dignity. Everybody dignity was his were dignity, and what I find myself looking through the present, for example, I was in the event today where I was talking now we're talking about a problem, a mile.

was having provided through how the needs of a child I'm actually here teenager. I said all I could think of an errand about not being able to afford their treatment. It's how she's deprived of her dignity. Imagine being a parent, and you can't do anything about it, because you don't have the financial wherewithal, because you don't have the connection beyond nowhere to go it's a little bit like an hour. I think them dangerous. The most hated word in slang region, other language. Translation is cancer, he can just strikes, fear and everybody. well it's one thing to get an analysis by re taxpayers. Stony summoned a guide you through is complicated. and we were finally significant breakthrough cancer, but you need someone to sort of lead you through who knows about it. I think

It's the same way with about any problem. People have, if There's a way to let people know, there's an avenue there's a way through your eyes, to have a friend named bob Gould who who died of a heart attack, and I used to say bob. Do you understand me said Joe? understand you. I over stand you, but you gotta know how to know, and that's why we can be so. little things like me have enormous value site now you're walking across an intersection. Then let me do that anymore, but Don't rush, intersection inertia, you know. Now only man or woman known there waiting,