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she asked miss outside the united, It's team is able to play to draw an advance to the knock out round. he moves on, as the runners up and groovy likely will face the winners of group. She could be sweden, we think on sunday morning, good morning, what their morning, Joe, it's tuesday august. First, will you guys, java le maire, women watching this term, at least two games draws for the united states? First round even was closer than allowed. People find it should have been against vietnam. It is out of the knock out round that game descended a few minutes ago, but man, just by the skin of their teeth. They were inches away from their torn it being over. flash winds- renew the? U s, of course, is to time defending amphibians in this historic run by this flawed, but the torrent we knew, this was a bit of a transition year its the last gasp. If you will, from some of the stalwart we ve all got to know from the latter couple runs or older now, and there's a young and very impressive group of of new players coming through, but it's

it is at times been a bit of an uneasy mix and you're right. They frankly haven't looked very good. So far, they only beat vietnam three, nothing when I believe the expectations that can put this seven, eight, nine nor more and then up of draws, and it can't be said enough. If this is a couple inches to the left, they go home so they are fortunate to advance here. They ve got a couple days off. Hopefully they get things going in the right direction before the knock out stage to time defending world cup champions united states, women seem looking for a three p. They are under the knock out round is John says. Maybe something of a reset here now, as the next gamble, and elimination game witnesses congressional congressional investigations, rapporteur for the washington post, jackie albanian, pulitzer prize winning calmness and associate of the washington post, eugene robinson good morning to you both of let's start. Yes, we are tom- if you heard this before, grand jury. Testimony watch. Could there be an indictment special council jack's mess investigation in it for our present down

from for his alleged efforts to overturn the legitimate results of the twenty twenty election expected to be back in Since today it's been two weeks since trump announced on social media, he received the target letter indication charge could be brought in the near future? The letter suggests the former president could face charges of driving voters, their rights, conspiracy to defraud the united states and witness tampering trump yesterday and social media. That he assumes that indictment will be coming quotes, and, day, now jack. We ve all been assuming that now, for about a week in a half, we ve told our viewers last, We did. The grand jury meets in washington on tuesdays and thursdays. Here we are on another tuesday. What is our sense of where things are to the extent anyone has a sense of where things are yeah wine, reticent like any predictions, because last week we had predicted that the gene

where a sixth indictment was for former president Donald trump was going to be coming down it. Instead, we all got a big surprise with a superseding indictment instead with the classified documents case. The other investigation that jack smith is working on where a third employee, Carlos de Oliveira, was charged as a a slew of crimes related to the the mishandling of classified documents, but this week we we are expecting the finally the indictment to come down from the Justice department on donald trump regarding

the january six attack on the: u s and all of the efforts ahead of january. Six, then, in the aftermath to overturn the results of the election and you you are right that rendering does meet today we wrote, we will all be on look out. I'm sure there are tons of cameras and producers and reporters already staked out outside that courthouse and in dc right now. But of course this is awaiting game and anything is possible. We have been waiting after all, for over a year now and gene robinson will talk a bit about some new polling that shows the impact these indictments in this next likely indictment are having on donald trump, which is to say working to his advantage. but it is because of the target letter is fair to say in our legal analysts have underscored this that it's a matter at the time here in this indictment around the january six and the two thousand and twenty election case

as a matter of time, that's pretty clear, and we just don't know about your excellency, you know we'd. We we have seen that he is willing, For example, in the documents case, he found a superseding an indictment that included new charges in a new person. So even if we there might be a few loose ends that he is still trying to tie up here in in washington on sex, or it's case, it's that doesn't necessarily mean that is now ready to indict given with what he has now and then perhaps if it, if there are still a few more people in need to hear from or two more business, he wants to take era, we could do with superseding indictment. So we really just don't know when this is going to happen, but I think we're pretty in that it is going to happen, given the target letter and tromp himself posted on two associates right coming in any day now, and he's actually been. If, for once, a prick

liable narrator when it comes to counters of these indictments, and there are so many where he is revealing that has received target letters and so on and and- and there is expectation, is just a matter of days and as we ve been saying throughout this process, willie that this when it goes to court. This might be the most difficult case too just because it is so sprawling there so many different pieces of it, but it's also the most important. and many feel that is vital that discharge, or about january six, sets beyond January six beyond the capital riots. It's also the efforts to overturn election be brought because it was such an assault. At very fast if our democracy absolutely- and while we wait for that potential indictment in the other federal case against donald trump, the charges against him for mishandling classified documents, including nuclear secrets. After leaving the white house yesterday, there recently name third defended in the case. Marilla go property manager. Carlos De Oliveira made his first appearance in miami court. The elevator was charged with

counts related to his alleged efforts to erase security camera footage trumps palm beach home, which was moderate a room or boxes of classified documents were being stored. That's according to prosecutors. The order to destroy the footage came from trump directly and was into both day Ella vera and the former pray since valet, while nada trump has denied ordering the footage be deleted, because dale of era has not yet hired a floor, debased attorney. He did that in our plea. Yesterday he was released and a hundred thousand dollars bonn and as do back in port on august and for an arrangement, let's bring for? U s attorney MSNBC contributor, Barbara barbara going to see this morning, because there is so much going out, will remind our viewers that MR de l a virus Property manager at marilla go named in that superseding indictment that we got last week that suggested he was directed by donald trump. According to prosecutors. To go, find the tape delete the tape that could show security footage, perhaps

of people moving classified documents around and donald trump, then checked in him to make sure he was still good that he was still loyal, you're still on our side, you're not going to flip so What are we learned yesterday of anything from that hearing and how central figure might mr de L of be in this case willie. The appearance yesterday was rather routine, which they often are. We didn't that he has not yet secured a lawyer which means that his arraignment we'll have to be delayed until that can happen, and I think that it is as building the possibility of more delay in the ultimate trial date that may twentieth trial day the longer it takes to get a lawyer, I imagine that it will cause them to ask for additional time. I do know whether they'll get it, but I think that is a possibility and how important this I think he is very important. He asked- this dimension of obstruction of justice and that, after all, what makes this case so different from other cases involving inadvertent retention of classified documents. You of that

he's. With my pen, the case with Joe Biden, whereupon discovery, They alerted the authorities in return the materials here. This shows a deliberate effort to cover up the movement of boxes, which was part of the effort after the trunk. Donald trump was engaged with the government over the return of the dock instead of returning them, he reviewed them all and them we're boxes was captured on video, which the government later was able to obtain. So these are key witness, because She is the one who pulls all of that together and another new figure introduced in that superseding indictment. Barbara is what was known in the document as trump employee number. Four cnn is reporting that he's the t worker who was working with today, all of and Delaware came to him and said. I need you to delete these security cameras with tape. Of the many way he said. Why don't think I can do that so, indictment. It doesn't look like he's being charged with something. Could it be possible that he is cooperate,

with the government in this case. Yes, they want here to be the case that that word cooperating as a term of art in prosecution and off. means is someone who has some criminal exposure and has agreed that in exchange for providing information will either get along yet sentence or not be charged at all. It appears that employee number for what be charged at all because he's now named in the indictment and he's not charge, and in fact it looks like he did what you would hope a person would do. which is due declined to engage in obstruction of justice. No, we have focused people who allegedly have violated the law in their way. he d, Donald trump, in the form of want nada and Carlos de Oliveira, but or other people. These people named is just a trump employ x, Y or Z, who actually did the right thing and have not complied and appear that they have testified at the grand

europe because we know from their testimony about some of these facts. So I think the plea number four could end up being a very key witness in all this, and you did receive a target letter, but not sure. In the case, I will keep an eye on him as well, so we cover the two federal cases against donald trump. Let's move to georgia words. has denied. Yet another attempt by former president legal team to stop the investigation by full income de funny willis into alleged interference in there stating that the election and twenty twenty? This is this can ruling against the trump team and has many weeks. A third petition to the court is scheduled for an august tenth hearing nine page ruling. The judge found neither the former president nor of his allies, also challenging the probe had the legal standing to quash the investigation in an inner Over the weekend, willis confirmed her probe is in its final stages. Saint quote: we are right,

to go. So if you read this nine page ruling by the judge, it's pretty forceful, it's a smack down. If you'll forgive the term of these laws, frankly he's saying, you're coming up the system. These are not credible claims to get rid of this investigation completely. will move on and just like these supreme court georgia did last week telling effectively trumps legally this case is going forward. Yes until your charge of the crime. You really don't have any standing to say I can't be charged with a cry we don't even know what indictment might allege if any and so the time to fight motions attacking charges or even the validity of a grand jury or the process there is after those jobs are filed and I imagine that trump will file. of those motions afterwards. But the idea that you can do it prematurely, We have even seen what potential There is just not ripe, it's not ready, so I think most legal experts expected to get this rule

but I think, was valuable- is that the ruling came now so that is no uncertainty, for funding will have to be able to go forward. the last one remaining relates to her own record So from the case again, I don't see any reason to expect that that one will be granted, but even if, for some reason it does, there be some assistant whose ready to go forward. So this cases go, forward, one way or the other and the time to attack. It will come later and funny well the day has said ojo and here we are in august now ready for that. So we will see that barbara understand before we let you go, you had recorded and we're playing to watch. The women soccer match, and we just complete loud while it for you at the top. The shows a please accept my apologies. I know you're a big fan. What's your assessed Can the team turn it around here? The knock out round I think so you know we ve had some early early hesitations. I guess I would day suppose, but I'll be fishing where my yeah, my megan repine jersey, as we advanced the next stages, and I think that she's, the sea

weapon they gotta get her on the pitch. Little more, I agree. I think they're gonna it around sorry? I, for it still a fun watch now, if you want to sit through it again, Barbara mcquade former? U s attorney! Thank you is always great to see today. Do more in council Paul daily tracking potential republican primary voters show ready for this donald trump. With fifty eight percent support. Forty three, it's ahead of his closest challenger florida governor run to santas hast, thou senior calmness for the daily beast Matt Louis man daily tracking paul. Yes, it includes a whole bunch of different poles and it goes. You know it's like watching your stocks every day you gonna, take it something of a grain of saw. But there was the pole yesterday that show donald trump up. Thirty seven points on rhonda santas. It appears that real, The this answer is not working number one and number two that these indictments at a potential other indictment are only in setting donald trump burst

Thank you for not showing any club, so the orioles blew his last night as horizontal and vertical nice guy and yeah this. This is the same story. Willie I mean just nothing has changed it except. I guess Donald trump continues to add two is too lead aiding the fundamental problem with the reboot when campaigns reboot it's about things like bringing indifferent staffers different advisers, it's about controlling the birth rate, you're spending too much money. These are things that have to do with you. No campaign infrastructure and logistics and all of that, and that can be important and it can be decisive in the uk- these of rwanda santa's versus donald trump. The fundamental problem is republicans like donald trump. They find him, but they find him entertaining

and they do not like around the sadness, and so I think you have to look if you're right. It in you're in trouble. You have to shake things up. You have to try to reboot, you can't fire the candidate, you can't by around the scientists, and I beg of you this is what it is run. A status cannot be donald trump. What could happen The reason is that this could be in the rays If something were to happen, the donald trump. So that's the best, case scenario, I think, is that Rhonda santa's is basically placeholder awaiting force external events to knock out donald trump. If it happens, so Jane, is actually a brand new near time, Siena casual that just dropped a moment ago. That shows trumpet Biden tied at forty three percent, but missing here, at least for the moment on the republican field itself, laid out this just dissenters, reboot at least so far, is not working as hemorrhaging cash he's had a fire

staff when there's an event knew him sure over the weekend where he offered people to have a beer with him for one dollar one hour to get the door only thirty people showed up that's enough. I speaks privy hive him or I guess the quality of his of his beer. I know, but if it's not rhonda sanders, who is it? Is there anyone else we're seeing that republican field who shown any signs of life that they actually could take on and threatened trump? Well, I think, look I think, every one of those other candidates looks at these numbers and says it's me. It can be me, you may see the sand flagging. They use, they probably tell themselves there, while is why trump's lead is growing. It's not that bad people love from more it's that they like to santa, alas, and given that they, like him, lesson them. Why shouldn't be me and in that sense, that all of this helps tromp, because it key, I think it tends to keep more people in

it's race- and you know, a crowded field is good for good for donald trump. I, the one person I think we ought to keep an eye on right now is senator tim Scott, who a lot of republicans speak of highly, who seems in these recent policies. Not do it all very well, but but at least in the name of the republican chattering class, he seems to be perhaps with a with a small arrow pointing upwards in terms of its candidacy. We'll have to see. If he hangs in there and if some of this maybe not. Trump sentiment ends up Well was around him scott. I see anybody else, who's who's, making a move. So man, if you think

about whether these investigations, these indictments, are going to heart donald trump in the long run again we're just talking about the primary most people believe they're, not a benefit and in a general election. But if you look at that, your time, sienna Siena. Seventy one percent of republican voters say they should stand behind donald trump. Through these investigations exact same we're seventy one percent say trump has not committed serious crimes. Think about that for a second, when you think about the mar a lago documents and potentially something like leading a coup against the united its government tried to overturn the twenty twenty election. Seventy five percent of it book and primary voters? Believe Tromp was just exercising his right to contest the twenty twenty election. That's not the kind of support that site that kind of depths of support that it seems to me is going to change. Just of another indictment is added to the superior. I completely agree. There is zero reason to believe that any new information, from donald trump suffering

heart attack or something, but that any legal problems are going to pose the challenge for donald trump. When it comes to the republic in private it could them like him, more, even though many trop supporters, simply don't believe it. They do not discuss it. It should somebody on fifth avenue. We wouldn't lose voters just make excuses like all. That's just the deep state or everybody does too. Essentially is immune from the entrance Many new information, I also have to add this aside from that which you know how you overcome that you look you're the new york times yesterday. I think it was I had this analysis of the republican electorate. aside from being immune to new information about trouble. You know it really. it's down into three groups, three buckets! You have the maggots supporters who were with trop, no matter what that's about a third, then you a third who kind of our

between they, they maybe for trial, but they might be open to someone like rhonda, sad this and you have another. Third or so it's a little bit less, who are mobile maybe never trappers someone like Rhonda santa's the this move for him would have been to try to consolidate the never trappers Those people in the middle- he'll, all son trump magua supporters and then consolidate the never trappers put them If you look at those near dimes bees virtually impossible to do that, because the two groups that the standards could potentially a chance to win over vehemently do good. Disagree almost every issue, so no matter how when you look at it it's impossible, see this as anything by donald trump being you know by far the very, very clear favorite

The numbers are not good at this moment for around the scientists and they remain strong for donald trump. Even the eve of a likely another indictment, Matt Lewis, thanks so much, I will not give away the orioles score except to say man. They look really good this year. His new book mats is titled filthy, politicians, the swamp creatures, latte, liberals and ruling class elites, cashing in america, meanwhile, in the house of representatives there doing donald trump bidding going after hundred biden, training created a tied to the president of the united states hunters from our business partner, gave testimony yesterday, the house oversight committee, the closed door meeting part of the republic I'd panels, investigation into the Biden families business deal in supporting the committee member democratic congressmen, and goldman of new york, Devon, archer, told lawmakers hunter Biden put his father on speaker phone with business partners, twenty times, but they never talked about business congressmen. Goldman also says: archer testified that, because

the pressure from Bahri smiled the company there hunter Biden gave the illusion of access to his father and tried to claim credit for things he had nothing to do with. It was abundantly clear in the witness stated unequivocally. That he there was there is no evidence in his possession. Or his knowledge that Joe Biden or discussed business with hundred Biden. Joe Biden never did anything on behalf hunter bindings business interests or otherwise, never change she'll policy, any way, shape or form. So then, the quest becomes how much longer are. We, go on this fishing expedition, there is no evidence connecting present invited to any related to hunter bite it. We have been told by the republicans repeatedly

this is an investigation into Joe Biden. There is no evidence that connects Joe Biden to any of this, and we've now had witness. After witness come in and they have testified to the same thing. Congressmen go then, will be our guests alive, but later this morning on morning, Joe and last cent on fox news, the chair of the oversight committee, was asked. If republicans will be able to prove the allegations specifically time, Joe Biden to any of this, the ones I ve been talking about for months. Do you believe that This is now officially the Joe Biden bright hurry allegation, and do you believe that you will be able to prove that Jim calmer asher alto? But I do believe that there's a lot of smoke and where there's smoke, there's fire. We will you just heard tat today that Joe Biden lied to the american people. He sure hope so whether smoke theirs

fire, Jackie so have they for people following this closely. Has this committee introduced? any evidence specific evidence that shows pray invite and Joe Biden, then vice president Biden was worth hand in hand with hunter binary or that president Biden himself benefited in some way financially or otherwise from hunter binds business dealings. Yeah. Well, you, we should be very clear here at this moment there is only smoke and their only seems to be smoked down the line and in devon, Arthur was a star witness for the geo P. He was someone that that calmer and to be members on the oversight committee had a consistently high dub as the key piece evidence that was finally going to do it in for Joe Biden, proving that Joe Biden was involved with business still somehow, but what she said yesterday, according to law makers who were inside that that private closed door trains,

and the interview was that hunter Biden was simply selling the illusion of his father being involved with some of these business deals. In order to to you know, potentially make more lucrative jason cells. True some of these people that he was doing business with Devon, our tourist someone who has been close with hundred Biden for, Quite some time now they went to yale together, undergrad and as as Dan Goldman described, to reporters afterwards. Devon explained that when window by was on the phone, it was simply we know not business later. This is someone who consistently the descriptions that we ve seen abiding was was simply involved in his sons, life in a personal capacity and james calmer has yet to show up or turn up any smoking gun here there's been numerous

and along the way. So far, of course, just a few weeks ago, we were all focused on this form from human. confidential, informant that chuck rashly than this or who runs, oversight, this interference committee and james. homer as well. They released this form. There was no there there as well, nothing directly tying Joe Biden to any of these business deals or this bribery scheme as comber has promised, but this is not going to preclude republicans from consistently trying to make this argument and create the illusion of of some malfeasance being there were the wash imposed Jackie, alimony, jack. You thanks. So much is always good to see you, Sir John. This isn't like seems to be, investigate with lots of smoke and little fire in terms of president Biden. If motorbike may have committed I'm these in the in the process delaware going through that plea there, but the threat

The investigation these suggestion, and sometimes the explicit suggestion, is that Joe by It was leading a crime family to use, their term haven't seen any that one shredded. They ve been at this for a long long time going after hundred buying it is laptop and everything else still no, but, as we heard from calmer himself last night and hannity still no evidence. Joe Biden, tidy publicans at times have been remarkably candid about saying we don't have it yet and even caspian mccarthy last week to push back This impeachment inquiry moments because he was like look- we don't have evidence to go that far and as far as hundred Biden goes there's no doubt I mean it's pretty clear. Even those close to the Biden family suggest that some of his behavior is pretty unseemly. That doesn't make it illegal It also means we don't know the role that then vice present Biden may have played, and it seems like no, they haven't that he had. That they improve any profited from this at all. Yet maybe he's

if have turning a blind eye to some of his sons behaviour. We should put this in context. This is a time when both in the presence. Other son was ill and then dying and then and then passed away. So perhaps he was, is attentive to what he should have been here. But again there has we been no evidence jean robs us, no evidence at all that he was proud I from this or he will that either of them committed a crime came to this and we hear hear from comber and other republicans against its wishful thinking trying to create this scandal when there's no so they have one year. they're trying to create a scandal, or at least the appearance of a scandal, of the sort of vienna, smokiness scandal and and and create an atmosphere without actual evidence, what an actual scandal- because I mean I think it's pretty clear at least so far- there is

I think there there is nothing there. You could certainly argue that at some point in the if, if one hundred byte input binding on the speaker phone for like twenty times, and you could certainly ask whether at some point a pregnant by might have said, hey quit been putting me on speaker phone you know, are you having a boon meeting like but whether that about? But but the context is that this was a sort of very fraught time for them, Biden family and we know how important family is to the president. And so do you hang up on you around no during your sign at any time, but certainly at a moment like that, and probably the answer is no

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to be the leading into this idea of Joe Biden kind of in the economy back to life, inflation, of course long was the bogeyman for republicans it for a lot of people in this country. All of us paying higher prices, but even that has down so well be a centrepiece of the binary election campaign. I think it already is a centerpiece of the reelection campaign. The you know, the first use of the term by an omics that I could find when I was looking for it yesterday was, was in the wall street journal before that, twenty election, and it was. It was a dismissive sort of put down of of Biden's economic plans as he had announced them, but now look at the economic numbers there. They have all turned in a really favorable direction. For president

inflation is down, it was down to three percent in june. Incomes are rising faster than prices and have been for the last four months. Unemployment is still at a fifty year lows at three point: six percent and the stock market is is doing well and did no longer predicts that we're gonna have a recession. In fact, we have robust growth, The summer two point four percent in the last report, so this is this is all good news for him and instead of a republic into hope that by now mixed with something they be able to attain, particularly on the inflation front and he's leaning into it and dan and attempting to turn what could have been a weakness to a strength and saying this is working for you. The inflationary,

an active working for you, my theory, a building from the middle out instead of the top down, is working for you and he got and, unlike the sister, the other day, of course, from congresswoman marjorie tale a green who, in a speech compared him to look what binds is doing to f d ars new deal and to lend the injunctions great society which limits the buying campaign quickly turned into an ad because yeah joseph Joe Biden is very happy to be compared to roosevelt and and johnson in terms of his domestic policies, and if that's the way people think about it, I think he likes his chances to light. Has posted those comments from congress will entail a green, the present just riding. I approve this. such everything she said is true, so John, I that some

that gene mentioned canada buried in the news last week, which is that the chairman of the feds that we ve taken the recession off the board for next year, which is not just great news for Joe Biden. It's great news for the country. If that turns out to be true that gdp at two point four percent, a lot of the economic data, and yet even as recently as yesterday, when you look at polling his approve, waiting on the economy is still very, very low down in the thirties. Yeah economists have been largely wrong about where this economy has been going and the biting people are not shy. point that out and that they need eugene just tick through it all the good economic numbers and their leaning in their living and hard on the economy. He was in maine on friday talking about that they just scheduled, western swing. Next week after the presents vacation this week to talk about the economy, the difference, the inflation reduction that is making critically and carrying it to climate change and they also understand that in the likely rematch with donald trump, which would pull suggest we're gonna get next year. They they feel like trumps, flock candidate, they like their chances, but they doing knowledge. One area where

from has an advantage, perhaps is talking about the economy. We know trump inflated how good the We actually was during his presidency, pre cove it, but it was strong and he's was good telling that story, imbue senior biden, people say: look, we need to talk, the economy now too, because we know he's going to and that it'd- be a vulnerability. It is for any incumbent. President you're judged on the economy should they feel, like now's, the time almost a year and a half out election to start telling that story anytime, they can take through those numbers that changes laid out that should theoretically be a good day for the present and, more importantly, again, a good day for the country that things are headed in the better direction. The company formerly known as twitter has taken down the giant x, sign atop, it's its headquarters in San francisco, just three days after it went up the city's department of building inspection said it received dozens of complete about the sign concerning its structural safety and its brightness with some residence, seeing the flashing lights. That It's annoying, but it made it very difficult to sleep because it's flashing into their apartment windows

it is for acts said the sign was put up temporarily for an event and that the removal of voluntary city said the building zone. be fine for the installation and removal of the structure without proper permanence. Turning now to the debate over artificial intelligence and the new podcast titled, technically optimistic with rocky krikorian, that asked key questions like can, I be used for good will harm us and how should it be regulated we're all hearing stories of how this technology will make our lives easier and how to vastly increase our capabilities in medicine, education and engineering. There are some places where it can come in super handy, like brain surgery, ai can more efficiently and effectively identify cancer, but can't a high, be used in a way that upholds human dignity and keeps our society intact?

if he joins us now he has led the platform team. A twitter directed ober self driving efforts worked as the top tech executive, the democratic national committee and currently just as the city of emerson collective, quite a resume rocky. It's great to have you with us, so striving to some of the questions you ask. I think a I we ve all been hearing about it for years, but really does seem to have broken through this year in the last few months of with some of the red flags that have gone up from people leaving major companies like google and saying watch for I can speak freely about it now and it's not good. Obviously it has a lot of potentially hugely bennett so uses, but where are you on the balance of the good versus the evil? If he will of ay? I yeah many thanks for having me, I mean, look, I mean there's two camps now there is a group of people who want to go full steam ahead and use a I everywhere and for everything and there's another group of people who want to take a really big pause. I personally think we can have both

like we can have about science fiction, world or a eyes touching every part of our lives and making your part of our life and better. While some mitigating the hot and a risk like I'd like algorithm algorithmic discrimination and others that might show up. So we can actually do both. We just need to be better educated, to understand the nuances. So we as society can help guide it. It does seem like theirs grandma to kind of put the brakes on, or at least stop and take a look at the potential damage and the harm can do Washington congo has taken. This up are there. Legislative fixes the really that can kind of rain artificial and elegance enters the genie out of the bottle in a way that people can really regulate. Look Congress was designed to operate slowly and collaboratively, so we can all week allowed them alone. To try to make this decision is actually only one member congress who has it

I agree and artificial intelligence is congressmen, J, o penalty, and so we can rely on that body to make all the decisions, especially in the world where this technology feels like every hey if moving fast as a year. So what senator worn and slender grandma propose, is actually not a bad idea with create a separate agency. That can be better staff with real talent and create checks in Allen says belief alone, operating a particular incentive mechanism. There optimizing for use, engagement, user growth money raised, but that's not what I said. Regular americans need or want so we need it. imbalance system. So I believe that proposal specifically can help create that check him out actually have someone on the side of re of everyday americans to make sure that their interests are taken account as well seraphim, This does seem like it's gotten. Some bipartisan support, there's some I m here to talk to, some sort of safeguards,

If ai, we seem to be growing by the day, more alert of some of the potential dangers it poses but give us a sense of some. Maybe more overlooked benefits too You know what what are some things that could be done here. The congress should make sure is allowed this to happen. I mean look at nice. In every single part of our lives today, already we're only just now really noticing it, because a things like tat, beating others, but look your siri, your your voice, assessing use a your mail searching algorithms. When you go into Google that uses a either medical breakthroughs that you say: islet dot. Doctors can now stand. cancer tumors way better because of these aims recognition system, our health care, our economy. All these aspects are ready being touched by I, and so we want to make sure we can maximizing. Look. I've spoken to people sal con upon cast we're trying to create personal ay. I tutors every kid in america, every kid in the world could have been

with custom and best teacher for themselves. We want to live in that world. I want my kid to have the best possible education, the best possible health care. I want a world where I could be potentially helping the climate crisis, but we all need to mitigate if other risks. We need to make sure that Well, races are treated equally by ai, that their values are actually societal values and not just the values of those people who created the systems either on purpose or accidentally. So I want to live in both these worlds of getting these amazing benefits that I just mentioned, but just mitigate these downsides. At the same time, How do you see some of the economic implications? Those large language models like energy bt, vague they get smart by scraping in ingesting reims and reams of information that was produced by people

and then they regurgitate it will so how to those people who produce the information or the images are whenever they get compensation for before making a I've before making intelligent? I mean that's good, that's great and I think that this is exactly the kinds of things I may be, a new federal agency or other, as can be helping make sure that we do is properly attributing those people in training the system's properly distributing the data sets. It are unjust, The making sure that compensation flows look again. These companies operate in this financial ecosystem that doesn't necessarily prioritize of that type of work. But this exact worried some checks and balances are needed. This is an example of this automation, verses, augmentation debate. But do we want to be creating a society where I take now

is automating away jobs, or do we want to create one worry using these tools to make every single worker smarter better and more efficient. I personally think Why do the ladder and so like Heaven? also incentivize. That kind of development for there are making. Walls at every single person can be achieving their goals, their dreams and their their aspirations. As you say, would you state and that balance it doesn't have to be all or nothing take the benefits of it and look out for some. Dangers such a fascinating conversation. Such a great voice to have on the palm cast is called technically optimistic. It is available Ever you get your pod guess, rafik of korean great, to have you here today, thanks for me here, thank you and

in robinson our thanks to you as well. We will see very soon my friends find the quality care you need all in one place: introducing center for sports medicine and orthopedics, outpatient surgery, orthopedic excellence, sports medicine all made possible. The strikers cutting edge technology at center for sports, medicine and orthopedics care meets convenience were designed to get you treated and back home in ours because our passion is getting you back to yours called for two three, six, two four: two: six: nine six or visit sport man, dot com to learn more about center for sports medicine, the pretext today, centre for sports, medicine and orthopedics here then home. Thank you. Overseas sees protests continuing israel following last week's passage of a controversial measure that weakens the ability of the nation supreme court to overturn government. actions and now, one week after the law passed through parliament- and we see news sat down with

and at the centre of it all israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in a wide, ranging review. Our foreign correspondent raft sanchez asked the prime minister about the protests rocking his country and much more in wrath joins us now lie from TEL Aviv, Israel wrath. Good to see. You tell us more about your interview with the prime minister really the prime minister gave absolutely no indication of backing down. He said it was worth it to get this legislation through, despite the deep divisions, its caused in israeli society. A pole last week found fifty six percent of israelis fear there is a real danger of civil war and the division this caused in the israeli military. Where thousands of reservists have said they will show up for duty in protest at this legislation, Netanyahu told us there How can it be a civil war? He said he believes that The dust settles people will accept his argument that this was

necessary reforms take power out of the hands of unelected judges. Put it back into the hands of elected politicians. I can tell you that is nor can the protesters are by, and I also had a chance to ask him about tensions in the. U S, Israel relationship, you remember, willie, president Biden urge the minister not to go ahead with this legislation without consensus. The prime minister pushed ahead anyway. president has also been critical of Netanyahu's decision to include far right politicians in his cabinet netanyahu, told us the really, and ship has its ups and downs, but its mainly its ups, but really one specific part of interview is leading the news here in Israel today, and that is this question. Of whether later this year, the israeli supreme court, strike down this legislation effectively ruling to preserve its own power and whether or not

yahoo will abide by that ruling. If it doesn't go his way, take a lesson. If Israel supreme court strikes down your legislation, will you abide by the rules? We have to follow one. Is the israeli government's abide by the decisions of the supreme court and, at the same time, the supreme court? specks the basic laws, which are the closest thing we have the constitution. I think we should have. We should keep both principles in and out so you are committing. If the supreme court strikes down this legislation, you will abide by that rule. Remember what I said. I hope that they don't strike down, because I think we should abide by both rules Peculiar there would be an american terms as though the supreme court that is charged with keeping the constitution would nullify a constitutional amendment as unconstitutional to sort of

in on itself, does it doesn't make sense? I hope he doesn't, prime minister, with respect to change the american constitution. It has to be done by consensus: two thirds of the house, two thirds of the senate three quarters of the states, this legislation, not backed by consensus, a simple majority, there is in fact important itself said that the basic law, it'll pass by superman party in the knesset, or not an incidental majority, because it is the basis of the constitution- they call it a constitution so. Every country has its own called constitution and by the supreme court on definition, this basic law that we are now dealing with is part of our constitution. Will you heard there? I asked him twice. Neither time did he definitively say. Yes, he would abide by the Supreme court's ruling and the many israelis. They feel their prime minister is hinting at the possibility of a constitutional crisis.

If this ruling doesn't go his way because the israeli supreme court, like the american supreme court, does not enforcement power doesn't have police, it doesn't have an army. It just has this law standing norm, that the government respects its rulings, and if we get to a point where the prime minister dozen then israeli democracy really is an uncharted waters well. Then, as you press the prime minister, so well, there, it will be fascinating to watch. If the supreme court does overturn this, then what and when?

his wrath. Sanchez live from TEL Aviv rather well done thanks. So much you can watch is full inner me of course, and then we see news dot com can find the quality care you need all in one place, introducing centre for sports, venison and orthopedics outpatient surgery, orthopedic excellence, sports medicine all made possible. The strikers cutting edge technology at centre for sports medicine, an orthopedic care meets convenience redesign. To get you treated and back home in hours because our passion is getting you back to yours call for two three: sixty four to six: nine six or visit sport; mad that come to learn more about centre for sports medicine and orthopedics today, centre for sports medicine and orthopedics. Here then, home.