NATO offers vague terms, timeline for Ukraine
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Following some major developments out of the NATO summit in lithuania, the alliance says it will end by ukraine to join
but only when allies agree and conditions are met. These are live pictures of ukrainian,
President lansky addressing world leaders right now the group did not.
If a timeline or details of what those conditions might be the vague
wording is in line with what president Joe Biden said last week, calling a pathway to membership for ukraine premium.
nor while it is at war with russia as the knee
times points out. It appears the president and the like minded allies have prevailed over poland and baltic nations
that wanted a formal invitation for ukraine
join the alliance as soon as the war
and we're susan page. We are in the middle of a hot war and there are a lot of people and the pentagon. You ve been saying for six months a lot of people and informed
see community inside and outside. The administration have been saying for six months that at one it's
point they're going to need to figure out how to bring this war to an end, because it was looking like it would
up in a stalemate and a lot of water
people in the administration were predicting exactly what's happened with a spring offensive, so
shouldn't be a surprise that they're, not there,
not going to waive this red flag in front of russia at this point- is trying to end the war
and also their or if you talk to leaders in the eu, they say yes, we want ukraine in that they have to meet certain standards at work.
not going away for any body, so
very frustrating for the landscape, very frustrating for
those of us who support what ukraine is doing. But this
it's not going to be rushed. Is it
No, and in fact, if, if if ukraine were part of nato now, would we not then have an obligation to be battling russia and, as president Biden
wouldn't that be world or three main they did make some steps at the summit
yesterday in telling
ukraine, that, when it when the war's over they can kind of jumped the process,
can avoid the initial process forgot
into nato. That was that was something
and I think no surprise to ukraine has been a consistent position of the united states, the united states
continues to say privately to ukraine that they will ultimately have to be a
automatic solution to this war,
attic resolution, probably not
carry one and that's all
That's that's a hard message in some way for ukraine, but it is vital
the realistic wine as we look ahead to what's gonna happen with this war, looks
to the summit in vilnius, NBC news, Whitehouse, correspondent monica alba, is therefore us monica good morning. So we know president vine will meet with presents olenska in a bilateral meeting, come up and just
couple of hours from now and if some
to the conversation will be perhaps presidents allowances, frustration that ukraine has not been admitted
to nato present, abide
jake Sullivan. Who will talk to you later? The national security adviser say that day is coming, but frankly
states of nato? Don't wanna be dragged into this war with russia? Militarily exact
william that day isn't coming soon enough
and intolerance? Can I think you can expect him to continue to make his case.
why ukraine should maybe be continually
ass tracked as a member nation for nato, even though the u s and other western can
Greece have said very plainly that the time is not right.
because conditions have been met yet from a security reform perspective and from a democratic reform perspective, but you saw yesterday before he got here president's landscape called this unprecedented. He said that this kind of uncertainty says something about the weakness of this position and old
the u s, officials and the white house this morning are responding by saying we agree. This is unprecedented in terms of just how much support or stepping up and continuing to give to ukraine.
That will be the message today and yesterday the focus was on what ukraine was feeling they work
able to get in the short term in terms of a timeline commitment for assent
to nato. Today will be all about what they are going to get in the long term when it comes to security and you're. Already seeing some of these nato countries pledging to train ukrainian pilots on those f, sixteen fighter jet something that we have talked about over and over again in recent months. In terms of the? U s
delivering those after a lot of deliberation, and then I think you'll also expect to see president bind today continue to talk about the weaponry. Those controversial cluster
notions of the. U s is going to be providing to ukraine, but then also the fact that they are going to be able to say to ukraine that now individual countries are going to be able to make some bilateral security agreements with them that ukraine will be a bigger part in terms of being raised from their current
status to a new status here at nato, which means they can basically call a meeting with all the member countries. Of course, the newest being sweden and Finland, which we expect to happen imminent
which was a huge headline. Outfits summit as well, so continue to expect president bite into town this unity. This show of support, despite present
once he still saying thanks for all that, but we would still like to see even more.
We, then we will see those two together, as I said just a couple of hours from now and mrs monica hour at the summit in view
Yes, lithuania, monica thanks so much so my prayers
by will meet with presents olenska short time. From now saying we have been with
from the beginning of this. War will be with you for as long as it takes to win this war to end this war, but not enough.
In this moment anyway for president's allowances as we want to be in nato. What do you expect present
I must say to him privately today. Well, I think,
The president, united states is certainly aware that every single day so when's he puts it
life on the line in this country, and then he has been a noble and honourable and heroic leader of ukraine, giving their country strength.
Moral strength, physical strength and out
and me so, outgoing than that he has managed to assemble a group of allies who are keeping the country alive. The president,
states knows all of this, but the presidency, I states
also knows that without the united
states leadership that for that that strip of film we just showed with all of the nato leaders on the stage grouped together, and they are together that
was stunning to Vladimir Putin eighteen months ago. He never expect
something like that to happen- and it happened,
of joseph far by that
only reason that happen bringing nato
together, like that in support of ukraine, in addition to all of the incredible technical support armaments,
other support intelligence support as well that the united states is provided ukraine, so I think there's
a balance in this conversation- and I
president Zelensky clearly knows he has to show deep gratitude to the united states. This is not like applying to get into augusta national. I mean
It's your turn here, and they are involved in an act of hot war each and every day, so
well, see whether
mike. I completely agree with with your mere your comments,
and you have here. You know I've
I'm gotta say it's. It's always ridge, when this
leader in that we supported zalewski, who I've said on the show. Many times is a hero and exacted an extraordinarily heroic waste from the very beginning is a great example comparatively
churchill said at times
his family were in greater danger than churchill. His family ever work that the height
of the battle on britain, nineteen, forty and forty one, but when he starts attacking allies and when it when he starts talking about quote weakness, I must
it's a little wretch and perhaps he can read a little bit of history from Winston churchill and the way he worked.
De, I only say that, because we,
we ve given ukraine over forty billion dollars, we ve given
twice as much as I believe europe combined, we ve given them
an extraordinary amount, so munitions would give them extraordinary amounts of anti aircraft weapons, tanks,
that's worth supporting at all.
And we do it gladly, because we're not just doing it for the ukrainians were doing it to defend freedom in europe and a push back
against an illegal and immoral invasion. We get all of that, but
einstein- and I suppose, perhaps
We all would be saying what,
at present zalewski saying if you weren't,
position,
I will say from
by its point of view and from the point of view of many americans, we have a president and a congress that had been there
been walking on a razors edge for a year and a half between balancing freedom
possibly starting world war. Three with a country
It has more nuclear weapons than any other country on the planet,
times we can't just put our heads down and georgia have.
a bull in a china shop
right- and this is why we asked whitehouse spokesperson emily simons this Morning- is these- are any frustration in
administration over that Zelensky common yesterday, which, to your point Joe seemed to have
absence of gratitude. I guess is the right word for what has been delivered so far to the country and, of course, you know diplomatically. She sidestepped the question saying everyone's on the same page and they all have the same sort of general agreement about where we should end up. It's just a difference of timing and process, but I think what we should consider here is that hanging over all this discussion about nato membership.
is a very real possibility. In fact, the likelihood that
diplomatic resolution to this current stand off a born with a warning care now will involve
some sort of negotiation around ukrainian you, NATO membership. The russians will not sign off on any diplomat again.
The war, if there is a guarantee that ukraine forego
membership, and so I think the lens he's probably looking at that future in saying I need to get in under the under the warrant. I think we, the nato allies themselves, including the us, are probably looking at their future in saying we can eliminate that diplomatic card right now, because
down the road. We will need to possibly play it in order to end this war. I think that's the big unstated factor here as people.
are gathering in Lithuania.
What makes nato nato is that all the countries in it agree and brook
meet the same requirements. That's number one number, two for a country: that's not a part of nato they're, doing pretty well
they are getting the support of nato, unlike any
as ever seen in the more unprecedented? So I think I think there is agreement on that at the same time so
ski, is going to fight for what he can get for his country and for his people
and he's also representing as people, and they want to see him fight for everything,
Why? I again is if you
His position, you understand ideal him pushing as far as he can put, should be very careful about again attacks
in a country that, given you over forty billion dollars and an alliance that is literally kept up, the country afloat,
kept him alive,
I will say right now: it
it'd be NATO membership. But if the united states comes you and starts talking about the israeli models, it's not a really bad model to follow, nobody's going to invade israel. No foreign countries going in
aid Israel, without under
standing they're, going to have to go through the united states
that's been the case since nineteen forty eight. So this
gonna, be messy. It's not going to be per
as I said yesterday, if
If we really want to get to a resolution where you have a
he's agreement and you you stop future
veins in that area by by russia and
we actually is a world community actually stand by our word yet in protecting you,
we in sovereignty, unlike a back twenty fourteen, well, then
that's going to mean we're going to bring in a lot of people around that peace table, including the chinese, to get a deal that, at the end of the day, protects Ukraine
not only for next year, but for the next generation and and and that's again, it's not going to be perfect. That's why that's that
the view negotiations- or we have a lot more coming up on this. But let's turn to politics here at home republican house oversight. Committee chair james calmer,
he's still wants to talk to gal loose. The so called whistle blower who republicans have claimed would expose alone
it's corruption by president Joe Biden and his son,
hunter. That's despite the department of just
Indicting lived on charges of acting as an unregistered agent of china lie
to law enforcement and arms trafficking luke.
Karen currently on the run and considered a fugitive.
I, the d o J. He was
finally arrested in february before skipping bail,
where's. My calmer is now questioning the deo jays tie me of
sealing the indictment against low, but so what's the deal jade challenged to? Actually
the charges yeah I area
couple of days ago and said: oh well, why don't they show the charge? They do show the charges, because it is always a conspiracy theory. So what's happening is you've got James comer, standing on the side, I suppose, of of of people who were
maybe spies for china
the letter engaging in illegal arms trafficking, people who were illegally
finally array,
in the oil to the communist chinese, sad who we want to
Vandyke calmer, tempera borders. Yesterday move followed by his apparent on fox news.
He's a credible witness because he worked for csc just like hunter, but I'm not saying are guilty and you're saying that he worked for the same company. That hundred of artwork all I want to know what the company did. What
knowledge and what role the lively with respect.
The day o J. I find it odd that they were very quick to me
if I may,
their indictment unsealed, but at the end,
You look at what they indicted for bread they indicted for being
an unregistered foreign agents. Will that's what hunter bottles for this
Currently only hundred Biden received hundreds of thanks
dollars more than guy look we're seek. I'm not saying
looked, is completely innocent of anything.
We're obviously have his opportunity to tell his end of the story, but at the end of the day, I know this the thing that the departure
Justice indicted on is one of the things that I think hunter binding should have been indicted on for five years ago. So the fact,
the department justices move so quickly on gala, but they haven't done anything other than turn
out of two hundred Biden is, is very concerning.
That thing they were like challenged to actually release the information
the indictment several days ago, if I'm not mistaken by
fugitive himself, the fugitive said: yeah go ahead, go ahead.
And and and I dare you to- and I did- and it was again illegal arms trafficking, which I guess, cameras, okay with being an illegal agent for the communist chinese, which I guess
cameras? Ok with you.
We finally uranium oil to the communist chinese, which I
comers. Ok with gas
lie too
authorities about all these things, which I guess, commerce
ok, with its it's faster.
spring and right now, edit
of the bulwark jonathan last Jonathan, my guide, I need you, you talk about,
for love and all the wrong places it is calmer. Guy is its
absolutely arriving tell us who this gal locked
Is this? What you say is moved this whistle blower this gripped or this
by this illegal oil. Trafficker to that,
mean this chinese party, who is so
you have to understand. Is that projection? Is the sincere
this form of trump ism right. Bizarre,
This is this guy is co director of a think tank in d c, and he unlike unite
Furthermore, occident ye, I or you know me a tear near tenant, dig she's links has spent his time running around. We especially in china, doing work for the chinese government, so he is
story this is amazing.
He is doing this perfectly legal stuff, that's all above board for the e f c, the chinese government's energy company and that his bosses
that's it! You have to tell him boy this hundred
I didn't think that we're doing over here super shady and because he, the patriot, he does
as he's going to go to the department justice, the f b I and spill the beans on all the really bad stuff that hunter Biden is doing.
He has a meeting in brussels in twenty
team, which is correct me. If I'm wrong.
when Joe Biden is not president.
He tells he told a delegation of people from the fbi and southern district of new york or
things that he has learned about the terrible illegal things at hunter Biden is doing and they
because I guess, Donald trump's justice department is super apolitical. They decide not to do anything with it and galloped says
They then went and just
read all the evidence that he gave them, and he he in
I told them also that the Biden crime family at a mole inside the fbi code named one eye.
This is all about
so
Then, when it take us back to two thousand, nineteen is when God love goes in talks with the justice department and donald trump justice department bill bar. Yes, they decide to do nothing whether they found no evidence that there is a connection between hunter by.
The binds anybody else armenia.
ask yourself how? How far is how deeply this conspiracy really go right and this? Yes, so it would be, he alleges that they went and they buried all of this.
and but you know he has the goods and we all have to take his word for it, as he's
videos from an undisclosed location because again he's a future
on the run.
and so far, what does that mean? Now, for the republicans I james com or who still are
bowing down on this guy holding him up as the key to the entire investigation, are they gonna stick by the sky? It move
find them first once they find them where they gonna stick by him is the key to the whole alleged
Crime family
I think so as a political matter. I don't think they can let go of this and they gotta keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down bullet. You know the the
the missing piece on all of this is- and I'm happy stipulate the hunter by ms, a bad guy and may have committed crimes and
seems from the outside that there's been a pretty rigorous investigation of him. There is
no evidence that Joe Biden is involved in any any of this right. This is, you know,
show me one piece of evidence that the president is somehow involved, because that would be bad right, but but it doesn't
seem to be any and I think the republicans
He doubling down doubling down, because it's it's one more thing that they confer against the wall, while Donald trump has been actually indicted himself. A couple of times
may be indicted, another time or two before the election
is one the way they just get keep muddying the water and pretending I think they need
under Biden to help put help themselves, pretend that the trump stuff isn't so bad
This is only convince themselves that, in all these
that is, as our guy I'm
not remember when getting indicted like hurt your credibility didn't boosted, but
fundamentals. Where
where is sloughed, and what are the odds that we're gonna the american law enforcement gonna, get their hands on him,
we don't know where he is. I have no idea myself
he seems to be presenting a sudden is, is fourteen montevideo what she sent by the way to new york house
if I was an innocent guy being persecuted by the deep state, I would probably reach out to reuters or the a p or a john's france, france, presse, or somebody like that. He sent it to the new york post,
make your own make your own conclusions on that,
He says that he may be on the run for the rest of his life.
he's here, three planning for the long game, and it's it's
The main you can't make the stuff up
yeah. I'm really, let me say in and William, of course, I think at this point we need
now that the new york pose the format,
Now is the paper breaker
four mornings suddenly asked
guilty if I were guilty willie of selling ill illegal arranging oil
to the communist chinese and if I were
a charge for being an illegal agent to the car
this chinese government and if I were charged
illegally selling weapons.
and lying to authorities about it.
Www when I got to verse.
just go to the post. Why? Just this morning, Joe they've got a front page splash about former mets pitcher Matt harvey's new girlfriend. I rest my case. That's a great thing. So, yes, I say my case.
Listen. Listen is that what they say that the headline and by the way, I'd send it their where they had
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come on, you can kind of as he's really american baseball nudes. Yes,
goodbye sam. Thank you still. I had morning job will be joined by national security, adviser, Jake, Sullivan ahead of president
meeting with ukrainian president Lansky this morning, plus a top.
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very bypass, the our welcome back republican senator Tom. I got prevail.
alabama, is now backtracking on comments, this
week in which he said is only some people's opinion. That way,
nationalists are racist. His new
eggs come after an interview in may, where he implied, he would be ok with white now
analyst serving in the military takeover
to his comments from that interview, followed
his remarks from Monday.
We are living in the military, so pass our readiness in terms of recruitment and why day, one because the Democrats
are attacking our military. Can we need to get out the wildest dreams? The white matchless people, adults, nobly
in our gender, as as the head, your by an agenda,
if they're destroying you mention the binding administration trying to prevent light nationalist from
being in the military. Do you believe they
should allow white nationalists in the military. Well, they call him
calm, americans. First of all, I am told
against any type of racism. Ok, football coach for
here and there
In an had obtained here to be around more monopolies and anybody, I promise he'll quite nasa.
Is just another word that they want to use other racism, but just
we clear. You agree, though, why
nationalist- should not be serving in the. U s military. Is that what you're saying people think that away
nationals is a racist agree with that
I agree white nationalist as someone who believes that the white,
superior to other races will lead some people's opinion on it,
they coming it alone, but pardon. What's your opinion
opinion of a white nationals it, so I won't com. What matters to me is an american is
and now, if that widened,
This is a racist, I'm totally against anything that they want to do, because I am one hundred and ten percent against racism. After that
exposed. Leaders, Schuman, Mcconnell, criticized the alabama centred yesterday and soon after receiving backlash from both sides.
The aisle for his comments tub attempted to backtrack his remarks.
The senator from alabama is wrong wrong wrong. The definition of
nationalism is not a matter of opinion white nationalists.
The ideology that one race is inherently superior to others, that people of color should be set.
brigade subjected relate relegated to set
class citizenship. Is racist down to its rotten core and for
senator from alabama to obscure the racist nature of white nationalism is indeed very, very dangerous. I urge my republic in college
to impress upon the senator from Alabama the destructive impact of his words and urge him to apologize
it's the center of the galaxy white nationalism, especially the white supremacy, is simply unacceptable in the military and in our whole country
rising demographic cited unless and until there is nobody here, but I am totally against minorities, thereby this building, so your body,
my Israel, that and say he still say that white mask
lists are racists. It has made a little ways says: oh ass, somebody's definition, but this
I lived in the south for fifty
somethin years. Fifty five, fifty six seven years knows no
exactly what white nationalism is, and he knows that that
white nationalists believe that black
people and hispanic people, anybody who's, not white. They are in
theory because of their race. He understands that. So I,
exactly sure, why
still has not said
the white nationalists erases, but this idea that he's back track now he has a backtracked at all. Well,
No there's a possibility that coach tub of might still be under concussion protocol? Who knows but listen Joe
problem is that this guy's ignorance, senator tolerable of alabama, his ignorance, is
still impeding the
promotions and the prey the pay scale? Ups from million?
for hundreds of of american military members, and he does it
every day in impeding progress in the united states, military impeding progress
get in a lot of families. Have problems with movement.
State or another because of the lack of health benefits for women and the fear of having to do need reproduction
services from doctors that won't be available to them. This guy,
impeding all of that
In addition to what he's doing displaying is ignorance on a daily basis and, as you pointed out, he has not changed its position. If you
in our view, has not changed its position. Its ignorant, sir
definition of who senator tub veil, is.
Yeah, and I would go further unfortunate
may I wish this was ignorance that at least one explain it if he was just stupid lose just.
stupid man, but he's not
has lived in that state for a long time. He has served the state he has coached in the state
knows exactly what he's staying and he is speaking to white nationalists in that answer. Sort of
stand back and stand by we're here:
nonsensical but you're, actually speaking them, and then you say you know all with Democrats say that's the definition he knows
definition and he
I'll, not condemn what
nationalism that
the bottom line. It's not ignorance. This was his point, though,
all and the white nationalism was the
wait here while and he said Democrats were criticizing republicans for criticizing for it as well, and he brings it back to the Democrats. It makes it political and now the head of the repub
can party in the united states Senate
there's criticized went again. You know
I always like to talk about this country. Moving towards a more perfect union. There are a group of republicans and are taking
at least their party,
there there, their wing of the party in reverse very quickly its twenty twenty three
and you have a united states, senator that that is?
is refusing to call white nationalist, racists and always as well. If you that's what you
they are then I say I'm against that's what Democrats are they are this
again. I just remind you how badly things have got them. This party, it
not so long ago that an iowa congressmen get kicked off of
miss committees by the republican party. First,
things that were far less offensive than what tommy
our rail is saying everyday. Yes, let
bring in how a white house correspondent for political and co author of the play book you
in Daniels he's a morning Joe Senora contributor, eugene
more you hearing about this amene tommy tuberville is in the news lately not just for white nationalism, but for prevent
seeing women and the military from being able to attain abortions, or wanting that dap and and holding
nominations and promote
since in the military as a result of this
frustration in the republican party, because
of his
failure to say anything against white nationalists in this country. Why nationalists in the military? Because folks, like
distract me from what some of them kind of agree with that he is trying to force the
pentagon to get rid of or get rid of this rule that they are allowing women and people who needed abortions to travel, and all of that is holding up these nominations because of it, and I will say, as someone who played football until my college years, you can be a college coach. You can be coaches to have some racist mania, we'll just leave it there, but he he has moved the goal posts on this one, starting with wanting a vote,
on this invest ending this from from the pentagon, and now he is kind of standing, even farmer in the gap saying that he wants the pentagon to completely retract this policy, its unlocked
lie that the pentagon is going to do that. He talked to anyone within the administration. Anyone in the pentagon and the department of defense and they'll say that it's unlikely that this is actually going to happen, and so it leaves you at this standstill now than when you talked to a lot of these.
africans. What they say is now the readiness, if the. If he continues this and you dilute you- have the lack of one commandant and then that continues. Then that affects the readiness of the military, which is what he says that he is trying to stop. Senator Schumer could kind of try to get around tub reveal he could try to file cloture, which is what is called for folks, and it will take a long time because each nomination will take days and, and it would further could further politicize the military and in these
these nominations, I will say folks are looking at.
it's mcconnell to kind of push him to tuberville. To do something different Mcconnell doesn't seem to seem to agree with him. Holding these people are he's obviously, would step out and in in say something that gives
I will, if necessary, but he doesn't usually unless absolutely necessary, strong arm his colleagues, the folks in his and his conference, unless he feels like its necessary so is unlikely we're going to see how this actually ends up many times.
Consider Mcconnell has said explicitly disagrees with what senator tub bill is doing in this case, holding up all these military promotions, but that one senator does have the power to do it
our system, so susan page part of the irony in the richness something changes referred to, which is that
comments we heard where tommy
about feels like the military's getting too woke, and that this white nationalists thing that he's talking about he billy
turning our military readiness, while he has spent the last
several weeks hurting. Our
military readiness by not getting these promotions through and now the system is so backed up that it would take weeks and weeks and weeks to get these more
a hundred promotions down and get people and positions where they need to be in the military,
you know- and this is no small matter- I think about two hundred and fifty military promotions are now blocked. This
of new members, new nominated members for the joint chiefs
acting these military families. It makes it harder for them
get the assistance they need to move to a new location for a new assignment, so they're real their real
repercussions from his actions.
the repercussions from his actions which, by the way,
Biden yesterday called bizarre
be in a way more serious than
precautions from the war, his words that so many people find offensive
all right. Thank you, Susan, for that,
coming up what democratic voters are saying about, president
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Frankly is too old to be pro
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Water with severe flooding this morning will have more on that ahead. Right now, we want to play for you part of a focus group recently taken
from political analysts mark halprin wide world of news in which he spoke with eight democratic voters from across the country about the
questions surrounding president Biden's age, leading up to the twenty twenty four presidential election. Take a look
you're concerned that if he showed signs of aging between now and next november, that republicans could effectively use that to beat him in the presidential campaign. Razor and agreements are an event that ok, so everybody's got started
that or how do you feel about president Biden running for another four year term? I have sort of mixed feelings about it. I think he's really done a lot. My goal
Well, is that that trump is not? President is actually done an incredible.
the age thing is not going to go away. I will certainly support him if he is the the nominee, but I would prefer that there be somebody else. I don't have a problem with this age, the good thing about him. He has a
but he has lots of experience.
I too will vote for him. You know when he's you know the one. That's probably gonna be there, but I do have I just kind of worry
think he's very strong. I think he's had a great career, a political career and he's gone
besides the island he's been able to communicate with you know he doesn't
size. I like that
bottom so much, but my only thing is with, though each issue its concerning, but I mean
the other option scares me so this?
if I can deal with the age thing, if it's at astor tramp, I want to ask one more question about about what we started with. Is this question of the president's mental capacity as raise your hand? If you think he is capacity art
somewhat more significantly but lessened since he took off his region. If you ve seen a dick,
of some sort, since he took off, raise your hand, art
Only two of you see any decline whatsoever, aggressive just to be clear. The rest of you think he's exactly the same as when he took
it's the I mean he's got the pressure on a male.
No, you know like barnacle what white one
unanimous here
every one of these democratic said they were going to vote for Joe Biden.
Joe Biden was there they also
tell there's respect and admiration from all the Democrats. For what he's done, some concern about age,
And that does track with with what what we hear from people in work
she didn t see, but
no, no, no I'll turn
joe by I mean
now these
to be sticking wedding, you know that fact
screw tracks exactly with what you hear from ordinary people, when you grocery shopping, getting gas in your car, exactly
zactly along those lines, people
our concern about his age is eighty one years of age is president of the united states. Its may be the most difficult
job in the world today he's overseas and ease the head of really the legitimate head of nato having brought that group together, he gets
if the plane he flies back to washington dc for another series of dreadful days. That begin at eight am in the morning, if he's lucky and end it
eight p m at night, if he's lucky
its overnight intelligence reports, it with scared the hell out of any normal human being. All of that
at eighty one what I think the plan,
is for the president and his campaign is to more more or less all his age old,
the fact that these eighty one on the fact that he you know
run ass fast ass. He used to. He doesn't look,
as agile as he used to because of his age. He has a troubled foot that
makes his walk look a little more weight than he is actually in the it looked me
look worse than it is, but at the end of the day,
given his age
in his vast experience in government
his knowledge of the presidency, given the record that
as achieved, which arguably
better than Barack obama's first term, I
that's what he has to campaign on all your age, so
things like no pay. When Washington cross the delaware I was there, they help pull those boats in that's how old is he really own his age and he can do it? And even here
of doing it properly from script from his
growth in Scranton pennsylvania, telling his life story in this,
lord aversion, a brief version than is usually use just tell in it. He can then
I am you
the american citizen that you are
I have often times that I couldn't afford. I have made
almost head cars repossessed. I've put kissed,
school I've carried the weight of an indicative child. I've lost some children. I've lost two children. I know the pain.
you feel on a daily basis, I'm Joe Biden.
Zack. I I I can agree more. That focus group really reflected like
conversation we might have had with friends across the dinner table or you here across the country.
Who really care about him? Think he's doing a great job and he's gonna be eighty to one he's running and
It's an
sing. You mentioned as the third problem.
This is a man who grew up with a start. Are all those things if you or I don't know
on one show on fox news, you're going to focus on that and he fell off a bike or whatever it is in and make it a huge
issue? You talk the Democrats who have voted for it,
four and look at the alternative
page. The alternative
It is the same age, maybe one or two years younger. It's not like donald trump. If he wins, the nomination is
some spring chicken too.
say the least, and you know
presidency was full of executive time and
all thing and rusty and watch
tv, while Joe Biden has been working his you know what off during
presidency and doing a pretty good job. So he's got the track record too.
Matches age and to brag on it. You know,
have any choice not to join our own? His age is MIKE was saying he cannot remind the clock and become a younger guy, but
do two things one is he can deal with. This was
humor with its comments
knowing George Washington, that is very disarming, and it shows that this isn't something that's getting
his skin. The other thing has to do is what he's doing this week in the end,
NATO, which is the show himself ass, a vigorous leader whose, on top of things able to
liver, able to unite this. This alliance come back home,
able to deal with economic concerns at tat that work
many americans who needs to joke and
To do, and that is
the only way forward in dealing with logic,
concerns about his age maker eugene? As you talk to people inside the white house, what's their view of how to handle this for the next eighteen months or so the questions around his,
because, as everyone here is said, demo
as we all know, very supportive of job. I,
when he talked in private moment sometimes ago, go that press conferences little
after all, it was hard to watch him walking across the lawn whatever it is again democrats like Joe Biden and when you ask them what the alternative might be to go well he'd, he beat donald trump once and we think he can do it again, so they can ride with em, so how's,
white house. Looking at this issue of age, I mean at any
when you talked to in the white house and on the on they're kind of small campaigner at the at the Dnc, even who's operating and as most of the of the Biden campaign at this point is that he's
getting younger? They think it s the
years ago, when they first got in and republicans we're doing this, they were worried. They were scared that it was going to do something; they don't want to talk about it, but what is
and over the last few months, is that aids around him
I said you know what I'll also older age. I said you know what forget it just talk about how old you are. He knew he made. He started making jokes at the white house correspondents dinner about his age. He started to do it at different events, just little barbs here and there, because when it tells people
it doesn't like, like susan said it doesn't bother him if he's not trying to hide from me. It's obvious that he's over for what he's trying to do as a unit, I'm an elder statesmen, I'm wise. I have experienced those kinds of things and, more importantly, the most important thing that he can do and has been doing it will be doing, is saying Donald,
it, is not only around the same aid, I'm the only one that has become
and when you have a democratic party, both the voters
I, like the elite of the party here in Washington DC, who are terrified of what another four years for donald trump, might mean. That is a powerful and has been a very powerful argument for him to make its. Why
you didn't see any Democrats who probably would want to run it twenty four doing anything that people I gave a new, some graduate where the people that have an actual big biography that would be appetising to vote
that has not happened, because they are so terrified and what democrats are doing now and what the button campaign is doing now is also painting Rhonda santa's and the entire republican party in trunk. Continuing the point out how
comes image, they are because what that says is even
somebody else, you should still be scared of trumpets them. So they're doing a lot of work just in case not trump as well,
are you Jeanne Daniels and susan page? Thank you both so much it will. You know, is a fascinating focus group and I I
we completely with mike and the other set
on the age. Ronald Reagan, william at washington, across
the delaware and binding. Was there pulling in the robes in iranian reagan? Famously said I
thomas jefferson. Thomas jefferson was a friend of mine getting bigger.
I in the eighty four debates, second debate after
so terribly in the first debate you know,
Again, there was a question about his age and he said he wasn't going to use his opponents age and inexpensive
it's against him, and he played out to that.
it is disarming, it's the same thing job I need to do when and with late.
If they also managed to schedule very carefully yeah, I think his staff needs to own his age. I'm just going to be honest. I don't think they do a good job, helping out the president and I'm not talking about it
I'm just saying if you are managing a president scotch,
and your managing a president getting on stage in getting off stage and doing getting on planes in getting off plain and yes he's. Eighty years,
to be there for him and you need to make a pathway and you sure, as hell better make sure
in the fall on a sandbag, and I
the staff. For that I mean these are the things that are gonna hurt him. These are things that are gonna, be
weighing on a loop, ok, let him
do as job. Let him do it
pages. Let him work on policy. Let him do with connections in congress, unlike any president on that we ve seen, I don't know
Clinton, but my god
sure you know your secret service you're, his staff, that you were there and you're telling him what's next, and it's not big, don't don't take this as oh, he can
You can get from one place to another when you're
in your onstage and we ve been onstage. I've done speeches and I'm so nervous. I'm doing the speech, I'm trying to get it right and when it's done, I dont know which way to go and I'm looking for direction so do a better job
because you can't have these video images of the president tripping or the president like
knowing the wrong way. It's not going to work in this presidency because his age is going to be a factor. His
just going to be a factor and do your job to make sure he gets from low.
a place to another. He can handle the presidency you up to handle it,
agile and where he got and discuss makes me mad me the schedule you're, so bored you have with every president. You have different strengths. You have different weaknesses if, if, if somebody,
were younger and the white house. They would manage his expectations and make sure that that he never
What two young are two inexperienced vines
getting up there. He is slowing down, as MIKE said, a lot of people forget hee. He he
I think he broke his fight. Our fractured his foot will do
during the transition here
really. The same is walks. Looks a lot differently: they,
get a manage a lot of things, and this is managing schedule you again
that's the asia again again, Donald trump donald trump can't go.
Size, Joe Biden, if he's not putting into
our days because Donald trump sat with executive time there,
cable news farther, grew a great part of his presence there,
also a couple of other presidents who told,
I personally we're not going to say their names that they like to get out
the oval office at six o clock at night, go upstairs and hang out with our kids and watch tv and go to bed by night or go to bed by nine. So again, again, there's this. Is it
This is a management issued. I've gotta saying, I think again to say this its it's it's. What we're pass up our seven hawk
wednesday July twelve. I want to keep this conversation going with former you senator now
in the lobby, narrow, ancyra, MSNBC, plane, lands, square, mechanical and chief white house corresponded from new york times. Peter Baker.
we're gonna, u verse, and if you'd like to trash all our game for being boring and far the.
american league wearing jiffy lube uniforms, you can. But first I want to talk about Joe Biden. First
I think so fast said: yes, europe in policy
x
style is substance. Sometimes perception is reality. Sometimes I will say, though,
we'll get all the nonsense. It right, wingers or saying trumpets, you're saying right now, the one thing you did there
talking about is how now Joe Biden has managed to get Sweden
in two major I'm in hell, I may to give this is this is yet
also. This is yet another extraordinary foreign policy achievement by Joe Biden. His four
policy team and our allies, which he's brought back together after Donald trump
for years, trashing them publicly and privately.
Yeah and show Biden has united the west. In a way
coupling no other president could have but cause of the grants and depth of his experience on
ages in other countries and listen
This is a binary choice in america and image,
Dave America not only supports Joe Biden but, most importantly, support policies. They don't want
weapons of military war being taken
The schools slaughter their children, they dont what rape victims to before
to have a baby by the government.
I these things and so by the way,
these two guys. Why is an out of shape in play golf all day from a golf cart and
the other is in pretty good physical show me, you know, there's three years difference really we're gonna use. Those three years is the deciding factor as to who should leave the most powerful cut
we in the world
one. Can asylum referred to indictments yeah
I mean it. I want indictment right, so
Once I'm waiting for a journalist to ask these republicans
you tell us if you think rupert murdoch should step down.
my job. I write someone's Warren Buffett there
a big
multi national corporations that are revered by the business world and, frankly, by most republicans, nobody
talks about their age, so you now get it. I get it and I
I understand why people worry about it, but I think you're buying
in a commanding position right now, especially inflation keeps going down, especially
We can manage the interest rates going into next year and the economy
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