Biden leading Trump by seven points in new 2024 polling
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Beautiful sunrise, washington, d, say good morning. I welcome till morning Joe
thursday may
eighteen donald trump
claims that he couldn t classifying materials just by thinking about them. Like I dream of gene, but
as a new evidence in the marilla go documents investigation that may prove he knows. That's not true. Meanwhile, the former
cement is seizing on two failed endorsements and florida from
governor ron Desantis, while ignoring the lack of
excess his candidates had in the last election also ahead. The latest on the debt ceiling negotiations with both sides digging in
One big issue will explain what that is and work
keeping an eye on president Biden this morning as he is in Japan, for the geese?
and some at work.
Everybody along with Joe willie and may we have the host of wages
a white house. Fair, cheap at political jonathan, le Maire, former
to the george w bush white house, the state department, alleys, Jordan, is with us and former one has directive communiques
mr president- obama, Jen palmary, she is
co host of show times the circus.
and also with us. This morning, former chairman of the republic and national committee michaels
he'll joins us and I see
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worse, that's hard to do
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for our heroine, Joe I'm? So sorry,
being chased around by gord cage with animals. I tell you: was it the women women who, just you know, barney, just a barnacle, is a magnet he's a man, I'm telling you willy four hours.
savages now list
the cab driver who jumped into a cab. It was like right out of our days night from one
or to another, we run in their there
Shame on us, and until you swear to god a worm, let's get you
why do I get with horror? And I tell you I tell you man we get in
We get in have
the cab with them,
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it was its new york city. What is it nearly catastrophic? You didn't even those damned error in the back seat pick up and draw
where does this happen? Also here's that these egg, where votes I understand at all. So this is not a lie. Meagre yeah,
this is not what this is all this is
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writing here is teaching your hey. What do I know and seemingly heroin hold on hold on? How would I go about significant weight? Can you believe this? Can you get this? Sadly, this is all over your accident. It's this is out of all over is its courage. You know we have a mirror datum show now for our city. Is that safe for you?
might bar evil. This lady, my has real problem exactly what's happening.
be nice that it could have been tough mika
I've.
our chaise or new york city.
just as a cab driver like I wouldn't stop
how a danger in an area where we weigh down on the highway, which is also questionable judgment, so
Anyway, we were always. How can I just can I just say
miles
here's your once. You get out of it after you are.
There are no speed limits and if you know
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the eighty
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so listen, here's the deal willie, I would love,
like everybody's impression of the week
adding to this the nearly catastrophic chase for two hour you mentioned the cab driver who drove? Are they still the duke and duchess? I thought they got rid of those they're not right
now go ahead and very out exaggerated to
and you picked them up. He said I wasn't so bad. The new york police publicly were below more tempered privately.
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prince Harry this white megan market since you're losing your charity of into new york, there appear to be differing accounts about what happened. Next spoke,
send for the duke and duchess sussex admonishing photographers for a relentless pursuit at lasted two hours and resulted in multiple near com
visions involving other drivers on the road pedestrians in two and why pd officers, adding the near catastrophic car chase, came at the hands of a ring of highly
grass it paparazzi the briefing I receive
while offices could have been injured, there was a bit reckless and irresponsible
three law enforcement sources. Tell NBC news. The couple was followed, not chased and that the incident was a bit chaotic, not near catastrophic
I would find it hard to believe that there was
to our high speeches in a written. Stay
meant the unwise pity says numerous photographers made the couples transport challenging, but there were no reported collisions injuries or arrests. Hurrying
you can have private security as they left standing to law enforcement sources. Tell him he's is that they wanted to
into Manhattan's upper side with it. We're staying with a friend did not want. The proper ought to follow
the law enforcement sources say, the couple was driven up and down manhattan for more than an hour with a police escort. Then the pair was taken to this police precinct were a taxi pick them up. Would you describe it as chaotic?
Does it came out. It was rather a lot of what happened previously. The day right with media was kay artic, but not crazy. Crazy. Do you think the popular party went too far
You know, I don't know when we were. There would be kept their distance when they were following us. In my cab sony seeing
holders he's the taxi driver who picked up the couple, but he says they drove around for only ten minutes before the street was blocked by a garbage truck people just came out of nowhere with cameras, snapping pictures that they seem worried. They seem very worried and nervous as long as he then said,
He dropped them back off at the police precinct were different. Car eventually took them home, prince harry of
it has railed against the paparazzi for much of his life, accusing them of invading his privacy to everything I could to protect. My family, though critics say Harry Meghan, also court, the cameras and publicity pointing to their netflix docuseries
No one sees or something I was twenty. Six years ago, this summer, mother princess Diana die during a court case in paris.
Followed. Photographed chase, aroused to clicking of cameras in the flesh of the chemist makes. My blood boiled makes me angry. Takes me back to my mom, my mom. Of course. You course understand what he feels that way. I will get a defence of the the paparazzi here and, generally speaking, but the new york city, police department had come out and say it may
and chaotic. It certainly was not mere catastrophic, but they are looking at every traffic camera
yeah corner in the city is covered by cameras and they're going to look at. If anybody committed a crime, they'll go find yeah, I mean they they're, saying the police are saying off the record. It wasn't really much
about nothing the cab driver, said they followed bit at a respectful distance?
yeah. But you know what who wants to be followed? Who want that sets and when there are five have to drive elsewhere to get out of the way they have to drive.
for, however, that long- that's not ok come on, who has to drive around two comrades meant come on.
Follow me around
what drawings?
around. Ok, I follow you. Ok, you got an erasmus. I do. I do
you get laws,
You you've see my worst eyes turned to power isi.
what can I say anything tour guiding her really guys is a good time for me to tell you. I'm legally blind, actually like cause special contact, will obviously you're legally blind, you're married that make up what we do here. Let me tell you, I'm going to take the politics out of cats when he worked the catskills. The way I do come on, don't set up any duty pitches. Your jacket is in the middle, doing a belated judge. Any home runs last night know they lost
trainings thrilling gap, which is dual they gave up through run home, run in the tent
walk off you, you know and fourth place, though not last Yonah loop occur
declared the socks,
season over too?
nights ago and now
one to analyses texting oliver saying this: is it
dusk fifa
after a real roller coaster, ride being a red sox fan, not really the world one night world series, but you see that's the thing, don't need that it's a marathon baby!
it's. I drive your car in new york city. I can takes hours and hours just to go right. Three blocks
it's true, it's a marathon and nl mir. Why don't we brand new into this and make sure we will get to this polling which, by the way which, by the way
leading with this pauling, because since
new york posts, which is, of course, what is it willing paper, reckon
It's a barber bracken from morning Joe. You think if we say that enough, though, by this over and let us go to know, and just
The printing press is but one that before
open your post made the headlines
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it has, of course exactly exactly
Johnson reaches mode rightness icing likely
I say here: let's there's these seven point. Well,
on line.
I made my own, I put it in the paper, but so binds get. The seven
point laid over tromp. Accordingly, your post, the new york poll, showed an end
buyers of air, despite binds buttons, crushing absolutely crushing donald trump, and this Paul now do, I think,
this is the and I'll be all Paul. I mean it's in the new york posts, so, of course I do other than bad. Are we going to talk about this Paul now, for a month like we talked about the one bad joe
I'd and Paul. We showed you pull the
other day, that was from the economist one of the most recent
do the publications on the planet they had.
By fifty percent. Do I think, he's a fifty percent? Probably not
maybe it's an owl wire, but guess what
in the year. The media talk about that for a week, and I have I didn't have like them.
Kratz telling you that had the tear that she's from their bad because they wet their bed for a week talking
badly Joe Biden was going to do next year is
very selective. I swear to god. It's the one pulled the one paul and people are
will writing articles begin in a major newspaper saying while you go by you know, he has a thirty cent percent approval rating at where we're at where the world's coming to an end. Well, new york, post paper of record,
what are they having met their crushing donald trump? Forty seven to forty, the economist, has him at fifty percent. Among registered voters. I dont give let's
about these for a week series
Let's talk about these for a week. If we're talking outliers, it's just do
That's all I have to say, but let's go to Jonathan a mere, because I almost
no please
our concern about that, it's, like I'm sick, swerving around the yard for four hours, and they know where he's going. Let's talk about
os, insulting, surely quickly, because that's what people what they wanted?
I want to see your pain and they want to see your suffering. They want to see your irish anguish spill out all over the screen tell us about your boston, celtics last night, good morning to you, too
at yesterday's harrowing ordeal this this was the celtics. Are they have been a? They are extremely talented, but deeply inconsistent and frustrating team. They look like the best team in the league, one night, that game seven win against Jonathan, and I just interrupt and just say I don't really care about it and be a hero or a willingness to go ahead. Go ahead. I'll direct this willie good morning to you, the olympics, yeah this or that jimmy jimmy butler, you saw him there I mean he is just goes to another level. Every post season and the celtics had a nine point, lead at half and then blew it. They they they came out. They gave up forty six points in the third quarter and they lose another home playoff game. So this doesn't mean the series is over, but miami
seven seed or not they absolutely with their smart for tough and better coastline
Alex is going
it's a shame. It's a experienced one. Now Joe, he told the three
its acts. Why, Michael, if we get out things, are the greatest seem on the planet suggest? Let me ask you about how long here's, the red sox, absolutely absolutely crushed
seattle to Tom. You know,
if they get swept by the cardinals who have been one of their worst seasons ever so there has panic in Boston but you're right. Everybody needs to
just get a paper bag long run, hake it to fill it up with my
ribs and hot dogs, eat the ribs and hotdogs and then breathe into that. It's only may exactly so. Let's talk really quickly about Joe Biden. I swear. We talked about the fall for say, swear to god, I'm getting so sick and tired. I can't do anything can't talk to a Democrat without
is collapsing about that.
That zone is going to lose. He was at thirty eight percent in the polls it off. Just like that. All of them do I say: do you, people care, like I've, heard this about Biden repeatedly.
still all the when he one in twenty twenty he's too
all they get anything dine he's too
old understand! You can't pass bipartisan legislation. He passes most bipartisan legislation, since I don't
Maybe maybe
I'll, be J. It goes on
these two all the we're getting
I sat in the mid term. There's gonna be a red wave. He has a historic, mid term.
To all the air. No, we want the mid term, but guys just too he does a state of the union they go. Kai looks really good. I mean this
going on I gave up, gave few weeks shows up and keep a few weeks later. Always
virile and mighty, and and then two days later, oh he's too old and then and then this
all comes out of weakened
ago and everybody freaks out over it. Nobody
the attention of the other bulls of having crushing donald trump any does and does it go when he doesn't do press conferences and then he takes a lot of questions manages really well like puts mccarthy in a box. Unum occur if every time they ve had they had to meet needs. Now the debt limit both times Mccarthy Mcconnell of, walked outside and had to say something akin to like we're, not gonna default. Continuing to put the republicans in a box full of blake that doesn't happen, and I think, if the meaning
You know, I was. Why does vacations art for brok? Obama know how frustrating it is with the with the whip when the press doesn't give you any winds, but I think that the white house, it's feeling
despite the hand, wringing proof of concept is working right. The economy, wages are growing. Inflation continues to go down the border
where they women were title. Forty two went away the if they feel like that plan is working, that that the numbers did not end up being the size of the expected.
And now is that the G7 does he have to come home early? Yes, he does too,
he'll with republican dysfunction. There are consequences to what the republicans do, but on of like it
the poles are still lower than they would lie, but kind of, but at least and sort of every sex
foreign policy with ukraine, the economy fighting to get better getting the republican
a box on debt limit proof of concept. Its working Democrats will always fret yeah.
So Michael steel. If you look inside this Paul as well for the bed wetter chose talking about, there's more in
urging numbers, which is the independent number, which is, as you know, very well, decisive in a general election finest
was fourteen among independence, and if you look a little deeper donald trump
of a rating among independent voters. A twenty one percent twice
one, why send its disapproval is in the seventies? That's where the election is one
or lost, and donald trump is doing terribly with.
and that's not getting any better, especially off the CNN town hall. It is not.
That is where the last few cycles have been of four four republicans: they cannot pull those
urban, independent voters back to the table with
The reasons are merely
there are those abortion? There is gone legislation there is
what was said about the economy, people
They may say you now to just point the skies falling. There's a disease
aggregation of how people feel about certain things and how they are going to vote, and I
Think at at the back end of this, which is a very interesting kind of peace. This whole debate
was a thing which people cannot set a blue off
still a thread. The narratives around a president who has now been a dinner
judy adjudicated to have
Actually, you know offended abused a woman and these,
types of narratives, do not help within the penny. Voters they just don't. Yes, there
is a desire to get into policy and talk about what the economy,
He is going to look like what's gonna happen at the border, etc
You have all these other actions that are being performed by the characters inside the geo p,
and and that surround abortion, that we see playing on state, legislatures,
It is around. You know that
sort of crazy
relations that marjorie tell a green ties are having been raised up inside the party by them
public leadership to speak for them and those voters, a hearing that dawn
one crazy, I'm not I just care, and so you seeing that reflected in a lot of these numbers and while people want one,
fixated on our job.
Is old or Joe Biden has a bad paul voters in very
played to Joe's earlier points are falling back to the point that I cant do crazy
so there is no ran away. I cant do crazy them.
It's a winning the special elections in places
Florida in some of the
two cities that they should be winning, and so I need some jacksonville too
Hands is democrat
I have been a wildly over performing even read areas. Well,
I mean how do I know how much
Does abortion have to play with that? When you look at these what's happening in these states, I just can't
Imagine that,
spans the stricter laws on procedure
that women need for their health is an empty.
In the way, even some republicans about I'm sorry, whether they say it or not. They understand that women need healthcare sought their business.
or that when you didn't jump care generally. I just put a pig
Exclamation point on that, because I think a lot of the
public merit of around this issue is way off base their people want
into this prob ly, verses in approach, choice, camp and that of the
world. Is it's just kind of moving in this pro life direction? The reality of it is a lot of pro life. Voters do not like what's been happening in the
state legislatures do not like what's been happen,
With criminalizing the wounds of women, penalizing those who helped them, who try
to get the kind of medical care
attention that they need, and so, if you keep believing that
everybody is buying what you're selling you can t the cell bad stuff, and you see this play out in ways that it I'll kansas city become
a real big example of the problem that the parties having on initial like abortion,
we're going to continue this conversation because we finally got to it with some political news coming up the tent and political attention between Donald
and enron dissenters. We have evidence of that and also evidence potentially that donald trump knew he was mishandling classified doc.
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it's almost half past the hour. Evidence cited in a new report may undercut former president donald trump claims that these secret documents he took to morrow logo were automatically decline.
Provide cnn reports, the national?
archives has informed the former president. It will give special counsel jack smith. Sixteen
records that show trump and his team
advisers had knowledge of the correct de classification process?
while he was president in amazed,
extend the latter. They acting archivist rights to trump quote the sixteen records income
can all reflect communications.
Following close presidential adviser, some of them directed to you personally, concerning where
why and how you should
to classify certain class of my records. The letter has not been
dependent, verified by NBC news. The latter reportedly goes on to say from tried to block the special council from accessing the sixteen records by asserting a claim of constitutionally based privilege, but the ark
This rejects that claimed by trump stating in the latter. The special councils office quote is prepared to demonstrate, with specificity to a court,
why? It is likely that the sixteen wreck
contain evidence that would be important to the grand juries investigation Joe.
seems, like I mean he
constantly says that he he'd, like I dream of genes, can blank and documents or are somehow declassified
There is going to be a big problem for the former president. If he continues to double down on lies about taking classified documents
away from where they are supposed to be in government archives. There are no doubt about it in the least with he has seldom trump has said, will alive to speak, think about it and there
classified. There is
process importance of this, obviously, as they they have records now of the ark.
Working with the trump saying: if you want to
Classify these the these documents. This is the proper way to do it. They got it.
Now donald trump trying to assert privileges, make it said and
the supreme court robert Supreme court, they they ve done it they reject
every one of his claims when it comes to things like this, so it is
It's gonna be extraordinarily important when it comes to in tat way
a chance to come clean sensibly, and yet he still went back and messed around the documents.
Tried to still intercept document. That's not good for him, because you look at the way that
president Biden handle the way that vice president pence handled it, and it would just such dramatically different,
circumstances so this case too
seems like he's at me:
or risk of legal peril really than political peril, because I dont think voters frankly that much
stand that much about classified documents, but the legal risks seems to be there when and where they do understand about obstruction. That's what separates him from everybody else. It's done this! They understand about why, in general,
it's no way down, but will you sign something where you and your lawyer swear? You don't have any docking sure we'll sign that now, we'll give it back to you F b, I
did they give it back and they're lying to them. They do understand that and I think in the end, that's his biggest problem. I think that of the obstruction
the lying
in georgia. I think those are his wheel problems as he moves forward. As a candidate said, that's the difference between my pants and Joe Biden, which is they found them in boxes. They alerted the proper authorities, went through the channels and gave them back obstruction. In this case,
That's why the f b, I make it hard to get a search warrant to go and get the rest of those documents, and we too
about the additional trouble the down front made for himself at last week, cnn town hall, he said quote when he was asked about this. I took what I took
which sounds channel like a confession to a lot of beer and said it was ok for him to show it to whoever he wanted to show it to which
and its lawyer quit ice chain of events there exactly I haven't
I heard him tell one plea:
story on this. Yet I don't think anyone house, but that's that's gonna, be
out in the court of law will see what happens legally, but politically. The problem for former present
tromp often can be losing, and now there is tension between the former.
Nintendo florida governor ron, Desantis, who is expected to enter, enter the two thousand and twenty four republican primary field in the coming weeks. Donald trump
but is ratcheting up his attacks against his likely opponent in a series of posts on its social media side. Yesterday, trump love to do so
just for endorsing to republicans who lost
state elections on tuesday runs magic is gone. He rode after the descent aspect, candidate finished third to the trump backed candidate in Kentucky Israel
What can primary for governor troubles
bemoaned republicans loss in Jacksonville Florida, the mayoral election on tuesday, claiming if they would have asked me to endorse the candidate bobo meagre easily. You don't know,
stand the candidate that endorsed in the jacksonville races kind of weird
it's not even from Jacksonville doctor eyes, doctor advised, I mean, Michael still, if you're going to win, make you gotta stop endorsing doctor eyes he's not even from Jacksonville. I guess he voted for erdogan this past week, I'm not sure who voted for over there, but but
come on. Did you really think the good people of Jacksonville we're going to vote for a tv doctor,
much. Winning, however, is high and, to stier be honest with you: they've be ousted
Did you know I would
I knew that to keep my job at the hour and see all I had to do was lose chip. I gotta signed up for that, but I believe that this is
This is an interesting tension inside the geo p. I just
no. If the base gives
m about it that the it's it's a very weird signal out there that there's a
I think there's a longer play here, Joe love, to get your thoughts on on how I'm looking at this, because I dont think the basis as put out as the establishment. Obviously as they want the power and the control the base things they can get that power
we're in control in other ways is so
big re says that everyone kind of focuses on us as well. This is a turning point. This means that this means this a lot of the rank of.
While folks are like? Okay, if you say so, because I look around and see where they are winning at school board elections where there's winning and you know it at local levels, where they're taking over infrastructure and control of you know about electoral processes. There's a longer play here longer strategy that sets up
much more difficult future for the country. I think in many respects, so there
in all these sort of losses in india.
the horse races. There are called by the mayor
stream media, for example, or morning Joe run. They look at that. I go out.
You focus on that. We have another,
play there's a longer term, and I think the press oftentimes tricks
all on the sanderson in an and you know, donald trump,
Basically, we would we would try so yeah keep on talking about this going someplace else.
I just think you lose sight of the longer play I really do.
come
why what I obsess over areas, five
Six states that a good return,
a fact: a white house, artisans ruddy, who supports american democracy, so I keep saying I can
the sound six. Seven states and
you can say wisely always because on election I those
states are going to matter and in those states their goal.
To be counties
You know a handful of colonies in oregon, german, who wins
raise the school board. Rayson law are in one hour,
actually matters for the one alike drove out that goes back and forth, but idaho I'm not really focus on bad as much as you know, gin
gave saying it the sovereign rights of leather,
the suburbs of philly this
firms of detroit. The sub
herbs of of
of Milwaukee maricopa county and when I look at into
the voters,
taking away from either candidate right
the breaking away from donald trump, and why
look at the actions that make them breakaway that that suddenly makes a big difference where I like it.
jack, please I can tell you when, when I wanted in ninety four, it was a huge shark that we,
over the house
representatives, but if you had looked where a publican said one and now
these three you'd have said. Will I can connect those dots and say you look at the huge them,
attic winds and eighteen years
I remember reading stories and seventeen about them
rats winning delaware county.
pennsylvania
the commissioner races for the first time in a hundred years. Your well that's something
crass winning in
an incredible turn around and the virginia assembly a monopoly, believed that it was a shock and twenty seventeen
seeing those women standing in wine that you know when it will lose raining and
that is our while that, so that significant and I couldn't
Five other races and seventeen that tromp republicans lost. It does actually
it does it does matter. I believe it does. It does show you what's going to be happening. The next year I looked at the turnout, numbers for colorado, springs and Jacksonville yesterday cause you thought you know like. Alright, these were in years old. Democrat won in colorado, springs Democrat won in Jacksonville. It was an expected to happen and thought
if people are low turn out, did they win just by in a kind of ikey now, but no, it was like a big. It was like a big turn out that that,
in both cities higher than the previous one, so it just shows like people or pay,
attention- and I can't I have to think that the six week- abortion bands
just past and what that, due to the gens unveil, may
ran right, and you know maybe there's pole
that show rhonda santas beating Joe Biden. I don't know, but not
major dobbin people understand, but that is for a six week. Abortion ban like Joe. He waited to that prime santas. You know
florida politics, it just seemed like it's prey for a while had stayed away, and I thought oh he's going to be smart enough to avoid this hot potato and then he has to go there. You know, I will say it's just people who lack the touch. They really do,
donald trump and end,
donald trump. Why does Donald trump back so crazy and act? So radical,
because he's not really a republican he's
really a conservative. So from the view,
beginning. He said: ok, I'm a man
hadn't, Democrat I've, I've
we got this is this. Is it I had known that guy,
I'm a manhattan Democrat, a very liberal on abortion on very liberalism, Donald
very liberal on banning gone seems very liberal on all of these issues, and so
when the he decided to rice, ok, we're what what are those backwater, redneck republicans think what do they want, and so
because he doesn't have the touch cause he's not conservative. Could he goes extreme
want a sad ass. He doesn't have the touch so he's like ok, well, I can't lose any back instead
you know when I ran a ninety four everybody's
no abortion should have by guns. They Ass may said: well,
What are your motion at an integrated approach?.
The national debt continues.
Which that national that europe
acacia needs to be decentralized and- and you know, because
was a conservative. I want- and I am a conservative ion.
Stand because I had
holding my wife and I,
no that like and my best
please people want obsess over that, just throw it out their talk about.
and talk about issues that are lacking
bring independence and talk about issues, battle, bring democrats and that will bring swing. Voters in the
guys don't have the touch it
I'll just like
king ball because they think
what I do a mere I just I just stopped
there has to be a republican out their swear to god. There has to be
republican out there. That cares about the things that I can
about that cares about
The things that america
care about, we gotta thirty one trillion dollar national, that we get rid of.
Look who's talking about,
trading and and appeasing Vladimir Putin, we got republicans talking about six week. Abortion bands- if they had just if
all this would have been for nod and republicans whatever the high ground on abortion. Progressives won't like this. This is the reality. If John,
one roberts had been able
convince Cavanaugh or
the coney barrett,
come with me sign onto the fifteen weak, mississippi abortion ban
exceptions that's where the middle,
forty of americans, all right now if they had done that, not
his conversations would have been had none
republicans wouldn't be running for the hills on the issue of abortion, but again no touch they too
the extreme position
we'll wade too
in winning more elections and more
pro choice, more pro choice
Justice is going on
supreme court its
the feeding their. Maybe
republicans like that out there job but they're, not in positions of prominence here in washington and they're, not on the twenty twenty four campaign trail at least not at least not yet, and instead you have a party that is continuous, shifting to the right and putting itself in extreme positions on issues like abortion, certainly but also guns and others. That is just out of step from where the american people are and right now there are. Two leaders in the primary field. Anyway, are trump into scientists, and we often see this from trump him so closely for so many years now, where he takes his biggest vulnerability and tries to use it as a weapon against his opponent, and in this case, is this endorsement with the santas, because we're starting to see the broad contours, the beginnings of a de santa strategy here and it's frankly, been echoing what you say on the show on a daily basis, where you count down all the losses that republicans have taken, and we heard that from dissenters sort of a vague way earlier this week. But it caught a lot of attention in the party and they wonder if that is going to be de santas. His main argument going forward look he's running to the right of trump, a lot of issues that might help you in the Dupree primary that's difficult to sell in a general election to be sure, but he is trying to make the case that trump
do not attack him personally, but trump has seen overseen a culture of losing in the republican party and that the santas has a chance to win, and they point to some polls to tabac that up that he's going to have to actually
prs attacks on trump. You can't you can't take down the king without actually should now, but they're gonna, but this is this. Some people in the party believe that's where dissenters eventual starting to go and we should hear is announced where the canopy, maybe as soon as next week, boy abortion, I have just had to say bush, had been such a huge issue, much larger issue than I even expected. I knew the overturning would make a difference, just
nothing, the political earthquake that it is stated long among republicans, among p,
who call themselves pro life, their entire life fix
stream positions, state legislatures are taking including a six week. Abortion ban again
to your genes right that made a big difference.
in Jacksonville. I wanted I really quickly before we gonna break about reading in mississippi.
And our alabama.
mrs, if the two states, I'd love to stay,
I've lived in
states, when I hear were forty nineth and this in fifty years. In that I wrote my eyes, did you
about the mississippi miracle yesterday that MRS
if he's waiting scores, have shot way yet
burma miracle. I mean it's really it's so heartening and maybe offers a roadmap
for other areas in states.
I'd be doing better, but where their pockets of
and receded to really help rating is just such good news for these kids very good news and let's hope that it's a program that can be model in
places around the country and that
something that I love about mississippi and alabama give out. They have a credit to the literature cold
is so strong and it's our one of our best exports and I'm glad that for now, more children or learning
three hours and I ve learned to rein in mississippi rests gioia. We learned I learned to read in mississippi erika now to read an hour ago I learned at rio. We learn how to read of mississippi it was. It was now
great memories of mississippi. I love that states. Here's the stature of mississippi, which, for a long time, was ranked second worst in the country in childhood. Literacy has moved up to twenty first stuff in just a day.
gave me a say they say a lot of. It is early intervention identifying
heads who need the help using firefox, fining kids and giving them specialised help and getting the catch up to their classmates sooner and its lifted. So many kids, it's great
We emphasise gray eyes out of this out on that and that, as such
those maker
Still I had on morning, Joe president, via the yankee, the yankee. Does it make a cares? Knowledge you can't use was right through it well knew for northeast boy,
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I'll go around the cop,
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still no nine one. One calls are collisions
but now, knowing that we wanted to take take it, but it was for a while and the city's chaotic ten non catastrophic years. Cattle nearly catastrophic is at the core, nearly daily life. Catastrophic that the naked year, but the good news in mississippi about kids being able to read better. I did wonder wonderful,
truly, wonderful, we're? Ok, someone were now going to go to a break, but coming up on morning Joe president Biden in
japan for the G7 summit, while the default deadline looms here at home or have worsened,
stand on the ongoing debt ceiling, negotiation plus. What's next
or indicted congressmen. George santos, after a resolution to expel the republican from the house, is referred to the ethics committee,
also I had access to the abortion pill faces. A new legal tasks will have the latest on the case
considered by federal appeals court?
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did you about by our president Biden, touch down
Japan earlier this morning to meet with world leaders at the G7 summit, but the debt sailing too
continue to loom over washington. The latest sticking point,
we're both sides, work requirements for federal aid recipients. Biden said:
He would not accept quote anything. Of course,
the queen sung the Republicans demand, while how speaker
Kevin Mccarthy says the issue
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visual and mourning geo economic analyse state ratner. Is that the big wall with charts explaining this dilemma steve? What you got
well make we most had been talking during this debt ceiling thing about spending cuts and the extent of the spending cuts that the Republicans want. But we should talk
about revenues, particularly because there were some numbers that came out yesterday from the congressional budget off
what kind of underscore what the republicans have in mind on revenues: Kevin Mccarthy's unrest
saying that he wants to,
stand the bush of the from tax cuts, which are supposed to expire starting in the middle of this decade, but extend them and make them permanent. Let's take a look at what the impact of that would be so
as I said they start to expire, and so there's not a lot of revenue loss if you extend them in the four
couple years, but then it jumps up really quickly, and this was all done to conform,
a bunch of really arcane budget,
at the senate and the house have, but none the less. This would cost
Treasury over four hundred billion dollars a year starting
twenty twenty seven reach
five hundred billion dollars a year at the end of the ten year budget.
Window that we all look at, so this would have a massive increase on the deficit which you can see over here. The deficit,
before you do any of this over the next ten years is going to be twenty trillion dollars, that's trillion with tee, and this
vision, extending these tax cuts and making them permanent would add three
five trillion so that
So where does way to? Are you telling me that Kevin Mccarthy's talking about how they need to be fiscally responsible, but they want to add three points:
five trillion dollars to the debt. Is it
part of these negotiations, not as part of these negotiations. I mention this because the cbr yesterday came out with this new score as we call it what it would cost, but Kevin recruited,
on record as saying that as and when the republicans get control of congress and the white house back. This is what they want to do.
Three point: five trillion dollars: ok, with that sort of inconsistent yeah got so
So what is the tissue jeers? We call it the trunk tax cutlass. Just as a reminder talk about what extending those tax cuts would mean, so
the total amount of the trunk tax cuts. Fifty four percent of that work,
people making more than seventy five thousand dollars a year? Thirty one percent went to bed
and always sixteen percent of those tax
it's that we now want to extend and make person permanent when two people making love
and seventy five thousand a year
and another way to look at this is what was the impact on people's? What would be the impact on people's after tax income of making those tax cuts permanent, and this is by income if you're in the top?
one percent, which is seven hundred thousand dollars of income or more you're after tax income, would but by three point four percent. If you're in the in the next four percent,
which is from four hundred thousand dollars to seven hundred thousand dollars. Your after tax income would go by four point. One percent
but everybody else. The aid bottom aid.
percent. None of the bottom. Eighty percent on average would see their incomes
by as much as two percent, so the
highly regressive tax cuts that favour the rich that the Republicans
on or extend as soon as they get enough control of congress and the white.
To do it and we should start so
an extraordinary gets. The point you are you're making Joe about the actual impact of what the
look! You want to do on the deficit. So if you start here what they
all their limits, saving grow plan.
Just what is on the table right now in the white house which, as we talked about
ass, we would cut forty seven percent of spending from that will be called
fresh airy programmes would say four point: eight trillion, but, as you pointed out, we
back three and a half trillion, and you end up with
deficit reduction of one always dave really quickly that four point: eight million people are looking down. That's not a real number there talking, but ab
absolutely savaging, the government savaging the
building for the government to do the most basic of things, and you look at that
they want to do the irs. He s the irs, here's an agent
the bed. That's been slash. The funding for the irish has been slashed, so much did a view as
working class or middle class american have a tax reform.
coming and you don't get it.
The lot getting on the fall of getting the irish to answer because they don't have many people left to end
The funds, if you do
going to be waiting on the phone for hours or hours if the ios messes up something and you need to talk to a live human being at the irs's. Good luck getting them on the phone this.
Where is antiquated. Everything is
leo outdated and all
Doing is lying about the irish saying they want to go to so
america in kill people where they are fifteen's, is what an aging
republican senator as set out by bit again you look at that. That's
even a wheel number there just saying, let's just everything that the government does,
Energy is absolute insanity. Forty seven percent of all those discretionary programmes of department of agriculture, labour people will make your food
your water, safe, all those by just forty seven percent and the real irony on the irs is at the ira,
actually makes the government money. If you cut the irs budget, revenue
actually spending actually and revenues go down because
doing as many audits, they're, not policing
and by I guess what we can do here, guess what we can do here. We can
the grocery store and be pretty darn sure that when we buy groceries, it's not gonna point
our kids. We can be pretty sure when we drink water. It's gonna be taken care of
in the few cases where that's not the case, it makes
National, an news for months, look at flat mission,
makes national nos four lines, because why? Because
of government agencies that make sure
that when your children, your family, your parents, your grandparents turn on the faucet clean water comes out the
Wood is fine when you get on an airplane. When you put your
well ones on an airplane. You know that
it's a safer, seeing that you actually can do
only in america but in the world, because
it is so safe and by the way, steve that
takes a lot of money. All of this takes money for us to live in the kind
country, that we live in right now and they're talking about slashing food safety there talking about slashing air safety there talking about slashing the ability of americans to get their tax refunds back in a timely manner. I mean there are
I call why
the consequences that this number does not we're. Never gonna pass that this is. This is never
congress will never pass. There's the present will never signed at a republican present would never signed this. I'm just saying they're coming, I can't swear
kids of woke up. They ve common, they ve com.
To these negotiations with numbers
that our rank horse crap,
and and they're sitting there with a straight face, go no Joe Biden woke up. Let's, let's ramp up the
the trunk tax cuts again, so the witches people in america can get richer.
Quetta are here very that show that is essentially what they're doing and and on top of all that they don't even make that much of a difference in the deficit that they claim that they're so worried about, and you can see that
here so our deficit,
three trillion dollars during the pandemic, for lots of good reasons we had to spend that money. We ve gotta go
four trillion and have it is gonna start.
black line is going to continue to go up on its own, simply because of increased costs for so sturdy medicare things like that. But here's the interesting thing. If you look at the two republican plans, the
cut spending plan, which is this red line, this endeavour,
reduction there. If you look at if you put the tax extensions back in that deficit reduction,
almost entirely goes away, and in fact this
The blue line down here is bidest plan. He would actually reduce the deficit
when you get out to twenty twenty twenty thirty three by more than the republicans under any of these plans, and
ironically, they claim that there, the party of fiscal responsibility but there's not much impact.
The deficit when you
with these tax cuts for the rich men and binds plan actually does better than the republicans. What a shock
same as it ever was same as it ever was steve ratner. You have you have delighted, children across america and I you say because yo million
kids across the globe, watch him on youtube.
the last the last the last ratner short popery, that
had over a million views on you to our influence
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true as his make up videos where he shows what you know. That right has steam says getting ready to do. Charge of warning on tv shouldn't be hard and let me show you least outside there can make it a lot easier is essential.
The positive is the next kiley jenner. A lot of people are saying. Well, I would say many people are saying many people are say many people say Steve rattner at the big board. Thank you so much steve. We love you. It's so great thanks anyway, let's go to another influence or lose sight egg,
ever seen his make up. Thank you not really. I would. I would one day I would love to show people I get ready for the shell.
there are ways we get. What show how we could get ready for the show.
Which is our respect for human beings. We get ready for the show and then how
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along the south,
you shoulda tv news member per year, fabulous absolutely
abby listen so does Michael Steele, but if you ve seen his makeup videos on shocking. Why so?
I go live bandit. I get
I ran for congress because of the deficit. I did. I know it's, it sounds so extraordinarily boring
because of runaway spending it just what so, when I was,
focused on, and so I pay
close attention to it throughout my adult. Why,
and backdrop
look ends even one on the hill and talk to mark meadows when using the freedom carcass mark stop chasing the conspiracy theories. Do what we did
focus on, where you can save taxpayers money balance
Imagine we balance a budget for years in a row when I was there for years in a row. It can be done, but you look at what
republicans, are doing, take that the deficits and the debts exploded.
The record numbers under donald trump an end
what their proposing now is just pure nonsense. It it's just
There are posing a small government conservative and there hasn't been a smoke government conservative in a position of authority. There well
twenty years. It's a joke, now
in twenty years. I mean he, you stop and think about that moment in which you were in congress day, even even give
the fraught political climate that ultimately led to the impeachment of a president bill Clinton is still bound.
The nations budget you paid its bills, you you even reform some long, sacrosanct institutions like welfare and end the social safety net. This idea,
of getting big things done for the country mattered. Evil
in the midst of political back and forth. That is not where we are now is performative bs in law.
To measure it is
of not even really good smoke and mirrors
It is sort of setting up these political narratives that basically push
genders that have nothing to do with
solving the problem they Republicans.
acting like you know that this is. This is the hill that is the most important
for us, it is so rooted in who we are, and conservatives, but wait. A minute is
when a trillion dollars in four years under donald trump view review both elude the nations debt
in such a manner? Oh and by the way you you had to raise the dead ceiling three times in four years, so now
in the end, though, now you've got this high brow sanctimonious, you know,
stood two to Joe Biden. Why,
Because he's the democratic power, so it's not
solving the problem is
creating the narrative that will get to the power back where he is
just a little thing gel. Do you really think people are that tied into the
discussion about never debt and the deficit, I don't care away. They once were now
nine, and this is my climate, so
It's always always been frustrating you're me is in britain, like eight
inbox is the same book. Actually maybe it was three.
on deficits dad
republican, see him become conservative again responsibly, and you know you sit there talking about it and go. Oh, we love that. Tell us what was newt Gingrich really like what was bill Clinton really like people, just they don't they don't focus on this stuff. Unfortunately, nerds like I do and and
donald trump? You took these these people
now that are negotiating along with donald trump.
raise the national debt more
in four years, then every president
George Washington, through
bill Clinton raised the dead
over the course of over two hundred years.
George washington to the beginning of
george w bush's admin,
straighten. They raise the debt,
or in four years. These republicans, who are
being self righteous about it, it's matting, Michael still, Zoe
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