Morning Joe compares and contrasts Bill Clinton's public response to impeachment to the public remarks President Trump gave on Thursday. And, Joe Scarborough discusses President Trump's remarks at Thursday's National Prayer Breakfast and why he says Trump mocked the words of Jesus Christ and got away with it.
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Now that the Senate has fulfilled its constitutional responsibility, who evil it was corrupted was dirty cups.
Bringing this process to a conclusion
It was all, but I want to say again to the
can people have we went through hell unfairly
did nothing wrong, did nothing wrong
profoundly sorry, I am for what
said and did to trigger. These events, I want
I apologise to my family
for having them have to go through
a phoney rotten deal and the great burden
have imposed on the Congress and on the american people better, they phone call that was a totally appropriate call and they
brought me to the final stages of employee
MT. I also am humbled and very grateful. It's called total acquittal for the supply,
in the prayers I have received. From million
Americans. When she said I prefer the president. I pray for the provision of prey she may pray, but you praise for the opposite. This can be, and this must be
A time of reconciliation Adam shifts
vicious horrible person and renewal for America say loaded the people of Utah and tell him I'm sorry about Mitt Romney
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Every guy, I believe any person who ask for forgiveness has to be prepared to give it.
So there we see now Donald Trump
painting William Jefferson Clinton.
Shades of humility, shades of dignity.
And came hurrying shades of humanity. Looking for
Eventually it was a master class yesterday in the difference between
melody and hubris.
So lines class and this
one who is classless it was. It was more
It was a remarkable day as Donald getting when Donald Trump put on a freak show yesterday and showed exactly why this
Raise will always be close. Even then, when thing
we're going well Donald Trump and his supporters and his family members are at their very worse good morning and well.
Come to morning Joe. We have fine like gotten to Friday, libraries, seventh and along with
willing and me we have Donnie Deutsche with us, former chief of staff, to the DE triple see in former director of
a teacher communications for Hillary Clinton, Twin
sixteen presidential campaign
Adrian L, rod and historian author of the soul of Amerika and Rogers
or of the presidency at Vanderbilt University John,
Germany's and NBC News and MSNBC contributor great job where this morning, he really yesterday, the president did put on an absolute freak, show
sighed the White House. He put on actually a blast
Miss display inside
some prayer breakfast actually mocking people who quoted the words of Jesus Christ, mocking people there.
Say through actually follow the orders of Jesus Christ.
In the sermon on the mouth. It was quite a display by
President, who actually somehow managed this turf buffalo.
First of all, the other victory too
yesterday, after the acquittal intended included a day at the national prayer programmes,
where he displayed again is complete lack of understanding of what it means to have faith I know, will play some of those clips and get into it later, but also the cliffs that we just played of him
Today I thought Joe was a perfect distillation of the Trump age in Washington
because you had Donald Trump being who he is. We know who he is, but you also
in front of his entire cabinet, the attorney general sitting there laughing and smiling and applauding while Donald Trump was Ripley
Russia, investigation and ripping the Ukraine investigation and everything else. And then you had Republicans
congressional Republicans, clapping and laughing along and wait
for their names to be called, which sort of is the point of their jobs.
Right now is to say, and do the thing that pleases, the boss,
Yesterday. He one by one went down the line and called out members of Congress,
we saw yesterday afterward they would tweet
on social media, the clip of the moment where he said a nice thing about them. I thought there is the whole body
yesterday right there in the White House. Yesterday
Donald Trump was at his worse by the thing about this. We he is, it is assuring
it is calling that he is so predictable. What did he do? The day after Robert Mothers testimony he picked up the phone. He called you crying
aided by Russia, said I'm holding up your weapons until you dig dirt on my political opponents thousand next day
Donald Trump was that is worse when he
actually should have been at his best when he should have been
at his well most humane. He should
play the advantages. Man this man doesn't know
make a deal and politically he just as another.
They would have been a wonderful time for him.
Wonderful time for him. If he cared about ever get.
The fifty percent to do with Bill Clinton. Yet a man who left office- actually, I think in the sixtys, but instead
He Rick Wilson said instead Donald Trump. Yesterday, he bellowed like a third world,
warlord and a display of political performance.
That was almost unbearably grotesque and it's a flight to american values
It can law at America's collective sanity
and, as will he said weaker the most grotesque
It's not Donald Trump. We win,
at a price that end aspect into the grotesque part where those people jam been there and the people jump into the prayer
breakfast who were laughing along to this abhorrent barrier:
This behaviour that cut against not only come
institutional norms over the past several months and political norms. But more
We certainly cultural norms
Donald Trump shatters everyday and I will say as a as
who grew up in the evangelical church. Cut against
basic norms that either
angelic calls once claimed to believe wines.
Held them cell s what's talked about
inside the church,
and inside prayer breakfasts, even though
they are all centres, at least
ascribe to fight.
Oh the words of Jesus Christ, the best they could do yesterday. A present the United States was openly marking
the words of Jesus Christ. I need the Franklin gram.
Every Folwell Junior Robert Jefferies,
Are any these other rules
legislators put in quotes did did anything to actually tell their flocks
Now, don't listen to the president,
listen to the words and Jesus Christ, we'll talk about all of this, a lot coming up by a shock
as they like to say meagre. We got a new Hampshire last night. It will get to more of the president's day of rhetorical revenge in just a moment, but first that New Paul this morning with good NEWS for PETE booted, judge and bad news for Joe Biden
in the Boston Globe. Daily tracking poll from New Hampshire, who did judge, is now closing in on Bernie Sanders who's in first place at twenty four percent. Go to judge is right behind. At twenty three percent,
points since yesterday, whilst
doors is down one Elizabeth WAR
took the third place spot that Biden held yesterday. She is now a third
in percent with Biden at eleven,
It appears that we have two wings, and now we have the top progressive and the top moderate, that's Bernie Sanders and PETE Buddha Judge tell it played out. Now, then we have the second tier progressive and the second tier
moderate, and that of course, is Elizabeth Warren and joy
buying and it looks like the possum pulses.
Over the past couple days are bearing that out again
as as it was an Iowa, so excited
being a new Hampshire yeah.
I mean, will see what happens on Tuesday, Joe the First M state, where people are actually voting, not cock, a saying in the democratic primary process, but you don't think think about this last,
week during you a it's of the fiasco that was Monday night in Iowa. Gilbert call
PETE, what out they pretty early on gave her,
They reside speech, took advantage of the vacuum that existed in the nest.
Media, while all the cable, condemns all of us resort of talking about what's going
on one of the results coming in. We had all this area
to fail, May Mayor P went out they're pretty quickly and so
the audience and sort of declared Victor Ear at least gave a very inspirational. You know I feel pretty good about where I am type of speech. I think that, really how
TAT. You know he's been really been playing up here,
Ireland Iowa, even though, of course, we still don't know
in ITALY who the winner is obviously very close between him and burning centres. For the point, is he really capitalize on that moment and its continued to capitalize on that throughout the course of this week? I think that's been very helpful to him, because, even though again,
we're still waiting for the final results around, but we're still waiting for the
how relations may repeat when I hadn't said you know what
really well in Iowa. I'm in a message is this effectively going into New Hampshire and
one of the reasons why you're seeing him really get this balance out of a state that
it still is a kind of chaotic and we're still trying to figure out exactly what happened on Monday night done, that balances bigger even than our graphic, indicates that we put the pull up again. If you look at how far people are up and down that just over one day, this is a four day tracking pull over the four days mayor. Peat is a twelve points, so sort of the post, I, what is put
these plus twelve Biden is down seven points since then
Joe Biden was off the campaign trail yesterday, five days ahead of the vote back and Wilmington with this campaign is advisers figure out what they gotta. Do they better debate,
tonight, at Saint Ancillary College,
If you were in that room and Wilmington, what would you be saying that Joe Biden,
I became Joe, is now or never
Joe needs kind of a real break up performance tonight. You know it's interesting. It's no surprise there is buying goes down. Prejudge goes up, and it's kind of the Anti Bernie thing is. This does no else to go off the moderates that that
there's no other there's. No, the flagrant town accept- and I brought this up-
doesnt show whose looming it's Michael number. I mean
keep saying that the more this kind of becomes a united.
Five thirty eight has Bertie a fifty percent chance of getting the election. Getting denomination right now is more. Is that correct,
used to happen. Bloomberg becomes aim,
every viable option. These double down he's at twenty four hundred gross rating
in which, if your tv viewer means that's all you see, it is
I can t I will. I will confess that you will continue to see
rise? There is real panic setting nowadays, while they should be. This was the worst we
democracy. In my adult life, when you combine obviously
quit all but the sky,
everything is that dysfunction, I will gives Trump hand grenade from now
till the election if he loses the election to say
which we know, we always know what he was going to say- that this is not a fair election. He has that hand grenade in his
built now and to me it was just
devastated democracy, we're happy! I will, as we have with the equator,
a meagre agree. The sorry I was going to say make it clear to the Joe Biden knows that there is a problem, there's a reason he came out. The campaign travellers are trying to reset there and by the way, before
gets to South Carolina which will keep talking about as his firewall, because it's a more diverse state is Nevada and they have moved a bunch
add money from South Carolina in Nevada because they know we can't too poorly in Iowa New Hampshire, potentially Nevada and then still count on South Carolina saving a bad start.
To say the least. So next block we're gonna, bring in Steve Cornet key to break this all down. But right now back to the president's victory, lapse
today, which started at the national prior breakfast.
Right before the rider and thought later. Arthur Brooks spoke right before the president about the teachings of Jesus,
I love your enemies, a message. The president's added. He doesn't agree with. Ask God to give you the strength to do is hard thing to go against you.
Human nature to follow Jesus teaching, you believe, Jesus Teaching ACT like me to the love your enemies. Ask God to take political content,
from your heart and sometimes when it's just too hard ass God they help you take it.
Are there. I don't know if I agree with you.
But I don't know about who's. Gonna like what I meant say. I don't like people
who use their faith as justification.
For doing what they know is wrong. Nor do I like people who say
I pray for you when they know that. That's not so we did a prayer breakfast this morning,
and I thought that was really didn't, I had Nancy. U policy, setting forth eats away, I'm saying things it lot of people. Would
said, but I met every. I met everywhere.
A vicious and men vicious these people a vicious,
Adam. Ship is a vicious horrible person now
EU policy is a horrible person and she wanted to appeal
some time ago when she said I prefer the president. I pray for the provision of bread. She may pray, but you praise for the opposite, but I doubt you, president, and these a vicious.
You know evangelicals anyway, this grown up in a charge, evangelical charge catholic Church christian church.
Stands the blasphemy there
really do I hear you
Donald Trump. First of all, saying I don't agree with you Arthur. Well, it was
our third, he was disagreeing with was the word
Jesus Christ, he was
agreeing with
but this is a man, and, frankly
You know this. This is a man that is said, he's never had.
Who asked Jesus Christ for forgiveness before,
This is a man who never read the book,
who is entire life. I he handed me a bible of his one time of the early fall thousand fifteen.
His mother gave in its obvious it had been.
For forty years he talked about two Corinthians when somebody gave him a quote from second current,
he could name a single book in the Bible. He couldn't tell you that
in Spain. The new and the old testament Annie
yesterday? He marked the words,
Jesus Christ, now listen since Franklin Gram in jail.
Farewell Junior Robert Jeffrey
in all these other, so called religious leaders are not
Those of you who warrant raised in the church,
It was so grotesque for people at the national prayer, breakfast and others
it has to be laughing it. Donald Trump
marking the words of Jesus Christ. Letty twice divorced, backs leaden Baptist. Tell you,
But let let me read you the words that the president
It states that a national prayer breakfast was mocking yesterday and
Sad think about it. How said matters
go evangelical later came out yesterday and stuff
up for the words in the gospel of Jesus Christ,.
Taken from the sermon on the mouth. These are footing.
Notes from Nay Home take.
From the sermon on the mouth, the centrepiece of the gas
Oh Jesus said this. You have heard it said, love your friends and hate your enemies
but I tell you love your enemies.
Pray for those who persecute you.
Pray for those who persecute you fit you
these sons and daughters of your Father in Heaven. If you love
those who love you. What will
ward, will you get and do
even evil. Man do that and if you great only your brother's, only your friends,
What are you doing more than others do not even pagans. Do that be perfect, therefore,
Arthur Brooks was saying yesterday as
Heavenly Father is
effective. Is these centerpiece John meets him? Well,
You are a believer or not.
It is the centre of the gospels of
Jesus Christ too low
Your enemies tube to forgive those who have persecuted you,
and to show mercy and kindness and meekness that should be you're going yesterday at something called the national prayer breakfast
Donald Trump marked the words of Jesus Christ, and he get applause for it
marking yesterday as a dark day, not only in the history of this country, but in they his
of the modern evangelical movement because
nobody, nobody that supported Donald Trump,
and up for the words of Jesus Christ- and here I am like I said, a guy's been divorced twice, a guy who's, a backsliding,
this I'm having to do this, where are the rules
Just leaders of the day to do this are to talk about.
The good Samaritan or to talk about
It is on Chrysolite, to put children in cages or to talk about why it on Christ like to reward,
the richest of the rich, while hurting the poorest of the poor. Where
are these men well, so at the top to stipulate
judge not less YE judge, so I would be very careful here.
Because, as you say, you're backsliding Baptista, imperfect Episcopalian, which is redundant. It so stipulate that
yes,
the family is, but your mother help. Why are you so.
My father was there all the time I love Episcopalians, but go ahead at which we will take you
and they're. Only six of us left so you'll help our
so couple of things were
is what's going on
and geological broadly for
theological vision of the new testing
your vision of the new testament which grew
where's are the hebrew Bible and the story of salvation with the adopted tree. The temporal power
I have decided that judges that acts
to the halls of power that that is in fact, more important than the increase,
the difficult hard work of the message.
But in the message and action that you're talking about their violating a command.
In the psalms to put not thy trust in princes
The initial meaning of the wall of separation between church and state was now
about initially protecting the state from the church, but the church from the State
the ancient thinkers worried about that's Roger Williams, founder of Rhode, island, worried about this Richard Hooker, the Anglican divine worried about this- that it
wilderness of the world were allowed to encroach on the garden of the church that it would become corrupt. Well, guess what they were right if you're, looking for any more vivid
All of that you will not find a morbid example that than in the EAST room of the White House yesterday
Abigail, Adam she's, to anger, laundry in the EAST room, and I don't think we have made much progress given
this the I think of the the central point of
the religious role of religion and politics, I believe, as ban
to be a dominant force. Put to me in informing one. That's when that, where the great in
of the american experiment is that you can't banish religion from the public square, so
to manage it and martial it and our best political errors have done that, and I wonder
I wonder this too. Really one is the culture that
tromp embodies, and it now perpetuates is
The reason we need more.
The religious, religiously, inspired values in the public square, the religious
inspired values of grace
generosity humility. I may not
have all the answers. What Reinhold Neber called said? The sad duty of politics is to establish
justice citizen for world that was the epigram
Jimmy Carter's. Why not the best
Seventy six: it was the way
started that campaign and remember
forty years ago. Forty four.
Now the evil
Gallagher. That word became prominent in american culture, not because of the right, but because of Jimmy Carter.
He's the one who brought that as of help bring that as a force into
the main stream to us after Watergate down
The second thing on this, I think, is our best moment.
Arguably, as a country from abolition forward was the nineteen sixties
the sense of the Civil Rights ACT. The voting Rights ACT, the end of Jim Crow,
crow would not have ended in
common NATO region, Joe without the christian church, the christian church offered a critique.
Love your enemies that found
russian through the means of Gandhi, but
central insight go look at stride towards freedom by Martin Luther King, Montgomery the story. It is run
the sermon on the mouth redeemed America sense
I wonder if we don't need to with John Louis with the great
rose of that movement. If we don't need
recover. This idea of rid of a kind of
she inspired resistance to
will to power that has taken centre place in our politics him. Thank you so much
all of that John Medium
proving Willie guys once again that episcopalian homilies anymore, I thought and longer than fiery,
Joe Quick, witted cranky Jews. In all this.
I'm getting to you right now, is not guilty of
everything started in Leviticus, of course, so
so, daddy in nobody's
asking Donald Trump drag
he's ascended into the public square right, and this isn't even about Donald Trump and Jesus. This is about the people. Laughing
this president. While he is backing the gospel
Jesus Christ and again
they are free to do whatever they want to do more,
nor I am working at the evangelical leaders who have yet to if not call him out gently, correct term for the guidance of
our own followers and that is the spiritual. Let's talk about the temporal. Let's talk about the secular, let's talk about what happened inside of that White House
that is a stain on american
mark rosy. Again, I'm not being
dramatic. It is
stay, Madame Donald Trompe, as already stated he forever state. It is a stain on those men and women who sat in their knowing that what Mitt Romney said was right
knowing that half of what Lamar Alexander said was right. Knowing that way,
the present the United States did was long and instead they stood there. Lakes scared little children, just hoping
The president would call their name out and isn't that Cuba is it
they enjoyed yesterday because it was a very
day, not only for the Republican Party, but for this constitutional republic.
Jello reminded me of the the equal pathetic day in the in the in the overall,
we have also warehouse when they went to a cabinet. Re went around the room and they all kind of
their heads today to their fearless leader. If it's it's so IRAN,
Don trumped junior. Hers is just such a vulgar human being used
Gary this. This work this year this week to further Mitt Romney, whose american hero- and he might have one point that word at those people in that room
by the way daddy just to let you know it's the same word we're not going to say on the air,
the same word that Donald Trump years access
they would when he's
you- can grab Yemen, innocent and deadlines, and that led
do it because you were famous
I'm sorry gone junior use.
Same word. Yes, what that's a class act I stay,
it is one of the great wonders I always thought I understood people for living. I unites gonna. Try to plugging the baby, I don't and
them to look in the mirror and take tat even broader, as we see in the Gallup poll
self that allows them to look in the mirror and take that even broader. As we see in the gas,
well now that forty nine percent of this country, half this country takes trumps, do a good job. We have
start looking in the mirrors a country we can't. We can no longer just point at that guy. There is
there's really play right now, the soul of who we are. We can't make it about him now it's about us now. It is about us
the soul of the man, you might say
to just a really underscore the point you made about the event: Jellicoe leaders and Ben. How wrote a great book about this he's in even jellicoe himself about the immoral majority, how exactly what John just described these leader trading power for christian values?
on Sunday after the Superbowl Franklin Grim, rode along Facebook Post, where he was very, very upset about J low shaking her
and he was upset about the loss of decency in this country. Yesterday, after the national Prayer Breakfast
on Twitter, on social media. He heaped praise on Donald Trump and thanked him for protecting Christians in this country.
So there is, the hypocrisy. Have right in front of. You is very worried about the loss of decency with J low, but not with Donald Trump.
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Raids actually being in the programme
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Thirty three pass the hour: it's been a bruising week for the democratic presidential candidates and other starch. First there was
Carcass chaos in Iowa we're both
hey, Sanderson, PETE Buddha Judge are in a dead heat with both sides claiming victory this as the head of the Democratic National commit
called what happened in Iowa. A major league
Failure and now wants a quote: surgical Rick
Canvas. Meanwhile, seven of the Democrats
presidential candidates will take to the stage night in Manchester New Hampshire for the parties. Second debate of the year, the weekend will be filled with candidates, criss crossing the state.
Make the closing arguments to voters before tuesdays, bows,
I want to go right now quickly, Donnie Deutsche, because we talk to last last segment about, of course,
try the majestic atrocities of the freak show that took place in Washington Dc Knowledge
Talk pure power politics not about what should be, but about what is, and let's talk about what an absolutely whore
will they put an absolutely horrible week. This has been politically for the Democratic Party of Doll. Tromp he's been acquitted, he's sitting it
nine percent on the Gallup Poll, I think that's an outlier, especially probably Eve Eve,
that close to forty nine, it's going down after yesterday, reminding everybody of his worst trades, but
regardless in that he
they will these preparations, and, while all this was going on, the Democratic Party
who is a short as this is the most important election of our lifetimes, that this is what,
matters most- that the resist
starts now, but this is when we go after Donald Trump and bring him down and save democracy. They can't even one a cock, soon,
So what forgetting? What we're all saying inside the bubble?
Daddy Americans are saying, I think,
But we saying right now on your way to say- and I saw that
The state of the union is a little crazy
but things are going well. My business going really well. I had demo
some want to replace him and they can even a wine carcasses, and I
How bad is that for the dinner
Pray and right now bad weak, impotent.
Dysfunctional and say what you want about Trump to your point, Joe ease up their pounding his chest and it benefits booted.
Urgent and dumb bloomer, because there the to outsiders, if you will you idiot
The almost you can't run against the democratic party. The gotta run against Trump what their that too, because they,
not been in the public discussion in the national discussion as candidates,
until now and to judge last year
for the last few months, so they have the ability to step outside of say. This is a new path.
This is a new beginning,
the ones who were the more traditional established. We candidates can't do that, but I
we'll tell you something what
but- and I will say it Again- was just as bad as now
current aiding a monarch in the White House with what we did with an acquittal, because Donald Trump is a door with a bone. He will not
Let go of this. Our national elections are now in play is questionable.
Institution, and that is the last bastion it was devastating. What happened?
you know really so Donald Trump Brand is all strength everything he does
I have said before the new, this guy and
Why
how he was
behind closed doors, how he was personally, at least so. A lot of people who knew him in Manhattan far
That is how we was publicly when he got behind
even if it made him a bad human being and in fact the campaign his campaign, their running
a bad human being, and in fact,
I'm paying his campaign. Their running
commercials. It say in effect, Guess Donald Trump is a bad man,
don't need a good man right now. We need a strong man and all campaigns are about contrast or good campaigns. About contrast, this week has brought
Did the stark is contrast. Donald Trump could ever hope for strength on the aside against just
ineptitude. It reminds me of the old Simpsons:
the old citizens
show where they went through the dim
Riddick National Convention, and they held up
big sign. That said we can run.
Anything that was a banner for the conflicts and this
just Donald Trump and that
gonna be saying this week. He had not just the big
to that they want to run the country with some of these candidates want to take over the health care system. If you like, the iolcus, we already see or healthcare. That's the argument, your hearing from Republicans, but you talk to people around the president,
people, the White House? They are gleeful about this week. They got acquitted of them
You saw that celebration that bizarre celebration by the present yesterday, he gave what they thought.
Was a good and strong state of the union speech. Despite all the lies that we're inside it and on the
their side. They watch the chaos in Iowa an slippage of Joe Biden, the candidate they feared the most going in. How do we know?
fear him, the most he got impeached for what he did to try to vaporize Joe Biden can
see let's look inside those numbers in. I were national political, corresponding NBC News and MSNBC author, the red and blue steep pornography is over it
bored so steep. We are waking up now.
Fourth, the morning without clarity,
What exactly happened in I, what we have a hundred percent of the vote in, but we don't quite know what happened because, as you reported NBC,
reporting. There are inaccuracies in these numbers.
The reality of this is we may
ever know with a hundred percent clarity who won the Iowa Caucasus in twenty twenty and the democratic side. What we can tell you is with what the eye of a democratic party
the US is, all of them,
recorded. It is a two state delegate, equivalent we'd for people.
Judge over Bernie Sanders. That is one tenth of one point. To put that in some perspective for
ago at this time member this week,
all night or in Iowa. I came on
day- and I said folks, we just had the closest Iowa democratic caucuses ever Bernie
It is lost Hillary Clinton by four state delegate, equivalence that was shockingly close. It's even closer
this year. So the margin right now the I would Democratic Party is telling us is to the issue, though, as you said, our decision desk some other news
organizations have gone and look. The irish State Democratic Party has made a lot of documentation a lot of tat. We sheets that they use these precincts at these carries fool
for these Caucasus has made them available. They have taken a look at them. A lot of them.
Been circulated online. Our decision Deaf says there are laws.
Of errors. There are clearly
population errors that at there in a race, this close that that fact cast doubt on.
Do you know the Buddha judges really? First. Do you know that centres is really second, when it's that close? The other thing we talked all yesterday morning remedies satellite carcasses. It's basically like absentee voting. They had a few of these throughout the state on caucus day for folks who couldn't go.
At night is a real question about whether the State Democratic Party used the correct formula to calculate the delegate,
from the satellite carcasses and again that has direct bearing on centres that could be a difference of three or four of these state delegated quiver,
we're centres, so the reality is by the way the campaigns have until this afternoon to say if they want to have a recast,
The reality is, though, this is probably the best estimate we're going to have and if you want to call it dead heat, I think that's fair
Bernie Sanders, told Morgan read for Heerd NBC News in every Esther. I won because I got the most votes so he's looking at the vote total. This is measured of poorest by state delegate, equivalence which, as of now, we think mayor people to judge
and stable ass. We were quick about that glow. W busy, Suffolk, pull out of New Hampshire
the four day tracking, a big bomb for people to judge a big slide for Vice President Biden yeah and you can see
what that is its not coming this book
Judge game from Saint or standards has been stable all week, so you ve got outta here
they are getting separation from the rest. One group in particular that stands
in terms of leaving Biden and flooding to pee
the judge seniors. Sixty five plus we ve talked so much about buying stuff
among the old. Is demographic Conner
police Anders strength among the youngest, the all this damage.
I think in the New Hampshire pulling in this tracking ports now is moving rapidly away from Biden into PETE Buddha judge.
So, the question is: can booted judge continue to consolidate? Could he passed Sanders
he's sanders. Is there an opportunity here for sanders to grow further conditions
If there is one other polar came out yesterday, that might be a little interesting. They narrowed the choices to four for people to these four cannons.
To see only of your voters would responding to check out what you
found there in that situation again
rejection Sanders now, a mere thirty percent they had by
war and a little further down. But again you seeing separation between Buddha. Judging centres we have seen candidates like Buddha Judge, come in from Iowa with
out of steam move up rapidly. Sometimes they just keep going Gary Heart did that
nineteen, eighty four one by double digit. Sometimes they stall, Marco, Ruby
stalled famously in twenty? Sixteen on the Republicans, I got that debate tonight. Let's see if that is.
The impact, certainly didn't toy sixty with Rubia Joe Biden I'll be back from Delaware back on the campaign trail and, as you said it debate again tonight. Steep reaction has been that board literally every moment of this week, thanks so much Asia, hey Guys, Willie guys here this week on the Sunday sit down. Podcast music, superstar, Cheryl Crow, her journey from a small town in Missouri to the top of the music world, get the podcast now for free wherever you download yours.
Tonight, the top democratic contenders will debate each other in New Hampshire just days before that states primary and if you think that what happens tonight likely
How much of an impact on the race consider what happened back and nineteen eighty. When the republic
Race that ear turned on a single debate moment here is
and we news covered the story. Forty years ago this the people of Nashua came early for the debate. Looking perhaps for some political excitement, but not expecting the drama which was developing inside about two thousand people feel the high school gymnasium.
The hall were three tables for George Bush Ronald Reagan in the moderator, but since this afternoon Reagan
trying to enlarge the debate with all the republic candidates, the sponsor the encounter the National Telegraph refused Reagan, claim that, since he had paid for that,
translation, he had the right to change the ground rules for our debate was supposed to start. George Bush entered the hall a moment later,
Angry Ronald Reagan, strode onto the platform him didn't come along
We planned as a one on one between Reagan, enforce the other Republicans failed in their attempt to get themselves included
originally planned as a one on one between Reagan enforce the other Republicans fail. The maritime protect themselves included after coming to the debate. Creating
at the end of the debate
We will allow these for people to make statements.
Then the moderator, John Brain and editor of the paper set the rules for the debate when Ronnie.
You can try to protest brain attempted to have his microphone cut off.
This man place during Mr Evans, my God for the moment. Did you know my mind that wine echoed the nineteen forty, a classic film state of the union?
hey broadcast. I was perfectly willing to say that if we could not all debate that, then I would not debate, and yet
People have to tell me that it would be unfair to all of you if we did not continue with the debate, but I want you to know that circumstances without Reagan, a the for candidates,
the edge of the stage as they left a gesture of protest against the newspaper and George Bush rule. This war said nothing I'm here.
To do so by editor of rain. I have been in
I did hear as a guest
If the national newspaper I will
by their rules. They free to make any real
play one on it. I am their guests and I'm very glad to be here. Thank you very, very much wish we have blown it merely by sticking with the two men for men leggings.
What does managers etc? Would do come here and fight? A pro Bush newspaper with bushes help Wendell
anybody, but Ronald Reagan to debate with Bush and the other Republicans are furious.
Or they say they are the wrong political deal I have been through and fifteen years about it I'll, never understand
Russia's attitude. As long as I live, they step does that's what they did. They stepped us George Bush's, accusing his double republican candidates of game.
Upon him or have any effect on the party, its politics. We were set up by Reagan. What actually happened there tonight was George Bush. The man was
possible for this or where the other candidates plain along with Reagan, in an effort to hurt Bush out to get Bush. I don't
started out that way, but I think Bush gonna get caught in the middle of something that he thought he could take advantage of, and it turned out that he couldn't George Bush but want to people thought of
I have just said: hey look, I know these guys. We ve been debating all their country get for more chairs up here. Let's sit down and do it, but he didn't Reagan was still
campaigning in New Hampshire, today continuing to deny that
Part of any plan to gang up one George Bush Reagan, people thoroughly thing
he won the night, oh by the way that debate
not televised. So all New Hampshire voters saw that was the news coverage that followed that moment. Bush never work
worded of recovered in that campaign rag and beat him to Taiwan in New Hampshire.
Went on to win the nomination, no hard feelings, though he made by
he's, running mate and the rest as they say in those during the rest. Is history John need some, though it
it seemed like an inside deal between judges of cannabis. Port
The Nashua newspaper,
the presidencies of northeast hot
We have always said. Kenneth bond port really is nothing more than northern new
Hampshire now, and so there was a home cooking go in there, but that moment were Reagan, grabbed the MIKE and said
for grain and set of brain for that microphone.
Same is what are they?
defining moments
in modern american politics. It was
talk to President Bush about that a good bit because it was so uncharacteristic for him as best broke asset in real time. There
George Bush's ordinary instinct, would have been come on. Let's all just do this, he
angry because gourd
Free, who was a very very conservative, senator add, can
rendered him right before he came out.
And though she had been put back on his heels a bit
He also said President Bush admitted he said not my finest hour when he sat there
and stared straight ahead
these amazing when you think about it: the political talent on that stage that think about you that two american President's Howard Baker, Bob Dull John Anderson, Phil, crane ad,
The other thing that thought girl said that night to Jim Baker was will.
I'm clean this up for the morning we'll get you
oh you'll, hear about this and
Why one nice thing about america- and all this is remember how
dull, said farewell to George W Bush. Remember
he was lifted out of your share in the capital, wrote
Dissolute George Bush, that was
that was an era where you go from that kind of divisiveness too.
Salute and calm rotary
beautiful moment and Adrian now, right get adjusted
Looking back at that at that moment, it made perfect sense for George AIDS, W Bush. Who is she?
dragon, and I was just a week before we had momentum going.
And a new Hampshire to war,
the one on one shot with a front runner and
cluttered with all these other people on stage. If you're the pursuit just pulled off the ups
the man. You wanted to be you against the political
at the time and end
one on one battle make perfect sense for him: yeah, that's right, Jake,
that is a reminder that, still to this day optics our every thing, it's how you method your campaign and that sort of goes that's what we're
hang about Mayor PETE earlier he declared essentially declared
he won Iowa or did very well in Iowa before there is,
we're, tally. You'll, you may recall, and twenty sixteen Joe, that Hillary Clinton campaign our kids
and the same thing before the results were
how it all that we knew that, based on
pretty precincts and in what we were telling on our campaign that we thought the weakened, declare, victory and move forward. So it's
The object is how you message this and I think so far
what you ve seen from peanut butter judges campaign where he might have had a deficit to an extent in the polls, his talented campaigns,
made up for that and really you know, took it.
And seize the moment just like you saw back. There are nineteen eighty one more thing about new here,
What I think is very fascinating about Mayor PETE's rise in the polls. New Hampshire voters tend to favour,
somebody from a neighbouring state right, you look back at twenty. Sixteen Bernie Sanders, winning
like somebody from a neighbouring state. The fact- and I is doing so well there and its surged significantly over the past
ten days or so bodes very well for him and campaign
Adrian our on John May. Thank you both for being on this morning. Water
Hey it's crusades this week on my part, ass wise is happening I'll, be talking with computational biologist, Carl Bergs Drum, but what we do and dont know about the corona virus once these
things get out there, and this is kind of sort of a key aspect of misinformation, and this information is the once they're out there. They really take off and they spread, and so Jonathan Swift said, SARA
four years ago that falsehood flies and truth comes limping after and and that's what happens on the internet, of course, that there is a more recent version.
Which is known as Brando in both book. They principle- and it says the amount of work that it takes to clean up both does an order of magnitude larger than the amount of work it takes to create it
So we definitely see that sort of thing happening with all kinds of conspiracy theories, including this one around the virus that this week on. Why is this happening? Search for? Why is this happening wherever you're listening right now and subscribe?
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