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It's the top of the hour. Welcome to morning Joe, it is tuesday January second happy new year, every body, Israel's round them
in Gaza is entering a new phase. The israeli military has plans to pull back some troops and shift more localised operations. We're gonna go through that
development and the escalating tensions in the red sea plus
a damning new report on the intelligence failures by the israeli military new york times. Investigation found that there was no battle plan for a man,
save hammas invasion that they were warned about. Also ahead, a look,
a long to do list for congress and twenty twenty four, with several crucial items that we're just
simply not addressed late last year, plus the supreme court has a type time line to rule on what would be
One of the most consequential cases involving the presidency will get expert legal
analysis on the issue of removing donald trump from the ballot. Two states are they're, gonna, be more. How will it be handled with us? We have the
to wait to early. Why does birgitta political jonathan le Maire com?
an associate editor at the washington post, David Ignatius and former support
allied commander of NATO retired for storing navy admiral james to read, as he is, cheap international annulled
Four NBC news, but first willie
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We need a more belonging to the authority. Are you don't sleep at all
will, I know, is he didn't the way too early thing? Are: let's get right to the news? The israeli military is planning to withdraw some of its troops from troops from Gaza. Reservists from at least two brigades will be sent home. This.
The idea of says this is expected. To quote significantly is
burden on the economy. Many israel,
businesses were forced to scale back or even shut down after losing
much of their workforce to the war effort, the movable also free up units. In that case, what a wider conflict begins with hezbollah in lebanon still the eye
says the fighting in Gaza will continue throughout the coming months. But u s
officials say this withdrawal signals. Israel might be shifting to a more
low intensity operation, which is something the Biden administration, has been pushing
forcing you wonder if there are also responding to pressure from their number one.
The united states of america, where there are well they a lot of questions that are not only their strategy, but how this all went down exactly, and it's a great point, because we're learning now the relationship between israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu and pray
and mine is reportedly becoming more strained. According to several sources, speaking to the new york times, president Biden has grown more and more of france
great in recent weeks by Netanyahu's refusal to change tactics in Gaza. Despite the
distance of the united states in early december Biden. Reportedly,
please some within the white house by going off
up to say Israel risk losing international support. If it continued the quote indiscriminate bombing of its name,
it has many many phone calls with Netanyahu. Biden reportedly has urged Netanyahu
Take a more targeted approach to rooting out hamas, something the israeli prime
minister has pushed back against the sharpest dispute,
still according to the times, has centred around what to do in Gaza after the war ends with Netanyahu. Reportedly resisting binds calls for an eventual. Too
state solution. Nigger have an
times now is out with a sweeping investigation on Israel's failures in responding to the deadly attack launched by Hamas on october. Seventh, one key reason.
the israeli military had no battle plan, despite intelligence, showing the terror group
likely planning an assault. This is according to current,
The former soldiers and officers who tell the times if a plan for a large
Gale attack on israeli soil did exist. No one had been trained on it. The paper reports is
rolls military was undermanned out of position, and so
poorly organised, that soldiers communicated in impromptu. What's that groups,
lied on social media posts for targeting information, the israeli
military. Reservists were also not prepared to quickly mobilise and deploy
major in the reserves tells the times their training assumed
There's really intelligence would learn of looming invasion in advance. He says his paratrooper
mobilized on there
own without a formal call up order.
Way. Seven hours into the fighting he turned to the reserve is
to him and asked: where is the idea ass, making
matters worse, if that's possible
military has acknowledged that it moved to commando companies more than
hundred soldiers to the west bank just two days before they attack a reflection.
Israel's mistaken belief that a Hamas attack was not an imminent threat. This doesn't make sense
The assault on a military base left soldiers there fighting for their lives rather than coordinating a response to the invasion. One soldier told the
I mean that some did not even know they were under attack until Hamas was in their sleeping quarters, several were killed in their bunks, others barricaded them
and safe rooms? The times ass? The idea why there was no plan, the military replied that questions of this kind will be looked at into a greater stage. So
David Ignatius and admiral steve regions to reduce admiral. I know that you have already said it is long past. Do that we add to this
questions David I'll start with you, though? I dont know what the options are here in terms of making sense of this.
because the new york times peace as incredible as the reporting was leaves more questions than answers. It actually is worse than we could have ever.
giant as women were being raped as
children were being forcibly removed from their homes or killed as people were being killed
mass in the streets and anna concert, you had an army that had
no clue what was going on or was caught in traffic. So what are the options at this point
In terms of an explanation of what could be the explanation for this
and is there a nefarious wanting so make the image
as I found in the new york times, reporting actually haunting that people
people saying almost pleading where's the idea
where's this army that Israel has counted on through its history. That's been regarded
one of the finest small arms
in a world. Where is the idea of the
of soldiers being shot in their banks in their bases in an attack. The base
if were not warned of, or not,
paired for images of appeal,
as you said, turning the social media rather than their own battle: planet,
to the side of oppression, and I think the problem, a meagre
is that that disorientation that we saw the first first day,
over seven on the days that followed
contained in some ways, Israel didn't dick expect that
moss, its adversary was capable of an attack like the one that have this simply had never considered at their work plans for it, because I didn't think this.
They could do it and as they ve fallen, Gaza Hamas has turned out to be tougher adversary there. The may expect than that
why this war is, as it is,
gone on and on, and why Israel has gotten so much international criticism for for what what people
says overreacting they they simply haven't been able to take control,
there's much of Gaza as they as they thought were now getting to appoint. Finally,
where the israelis, in part, because of economic, need the need to get reservists back to work, so the economy functions better,
we'll begin pulling out initially to brigades through more brigades or planned, although no,
it has been given an end
Israel, certainly in the north, will now now move to a kind of stand off operation us senate.
Where they'll get intelligence that Hamas is located in a particular place. The sun
troops in there rather than
maintaining the troops, rounding, those those positions that
ease the casually burned for Israel. Hopefully, will allow greater humanitarian relief in gaza and make that such way,
better, reduce the criticism on Israel and the united states, but more to the point, help the desperate suffering of the power of the palestinians
but the more we know about about this war
probably should at in the near his political and judicial programmes that are
coincide with with this intelligence failure. Military definitely more. We know about it.
situation? The more I think it's right to see that
HU as embattled as having embarked on a war for which it turn that neither
He nor the israeli military was adequately prepared,
and now, as several months later, really really
struggling to find an end game. When I talk to israeli military commanders maker, I simply don't here
mere answers about how they think this war will end were who they say.
What come on after the israeli military, to maintain
order in Gaza. I think that's where the
west's gonna have to play a key role.
Because Israel itself doesn't have the answers
admirals to reduce David was talking about the news that broke yesterday. Israel's high court, striking down Benjamin Netanyahu,
judicial overhaul law, something I think he needed politically to stay in power and avoid indictment, or at least the kind
The point is of an already existing indictment. Putting that,
side. I think it was among
go. You said it was too late that there were no answers. What the new york times is
boarding has only given us more questions. Only given you as more kind of a sick feeling that the answer is no
be good. I ask you: what are the options here at this point now the
no soldiers were killed in their beds, sleeping they were stuck in traffic.
And let me add that Benjamin Netanyahu supported the funding of hamas through cutter that
Benjamin Netanyahu says now is not the time to
these answers. I think it is exactly the time, especially if they want the support of their partners, complete support transparency.
And also what does it say. I guess there attitudes toward women at the
at least are less than to be respected, given
fact that it was women. Researchers who raised the flag months ago
that this attack was happening in a forty pilot page blueprint on this. I ask: what are the options beyond the fact that Israel was not present?
heard that seems impossible. So what are the other options when splits
back to
why this happened? I think there are three big reasons. One is complacency. The israeli military simply could not conceive that Hamas
would be able to generate this kind of high and strike.
Combat attack in the
underestimated the degree to which iran had provided the weapon
to do with the training the functionality so complete under
estimated of Hamas a complacency syndrome. Secondly,
touched on it a moment ago. Meagre
internal divisions in Israel had even
skin to the israeli defence forces?
We had seen reports a reserve, as he said, we're not
to reinforce in
until this constitution,
the crisis is resolved. That's pretty room
workable in a military that absolutely relies
This reserve component in there
Thirdly, the sum
Ass itself stepped up and did the
expected. You know we talk a lot about nine. Eleven
feel, you're, not of intelligence
is but a failure of imagination. It was really those, but that the crew
sis for america that has some echoes here- is really pearl harbor.
it's where our military was literally sleeping in their banks and pearl harbor
had no idea. Seemingly this attack was gonna come even though in retrospect we saw plenty of intelligence.
its flickers out there so that
that moment for the
as rarely military reminds me of the pearl harbor moment for the united states in terms of options, I think more imports,
We then all of that and then
Israel will pull that apart and tat happened fast enough. They need
doing this in parallel to the fight and let's face it, they're not fake fighting,
the japanese empire here. They are now
under existential threat from Hamas, so they can do
the investigation and understand and after
Oh harbour with the united states did was bringing new
commanders. Are we
rid of the team that had allowed this to occur. We brought in new fresh
admirals, like chester, nimitz,
full hall z rain.
Sprue and seas were relatively unknown monster, who stepped in and recovered from now,
situation pretty remarkably so
Israel a needs to invest
It is now and fully be reshape their milk.
Terry leadership based on the leadership failures that I think are quite extent quainter?
he is here and see
she'll. These internal divisions here will get back to the political and benjamin Netanyahu situation. It hurts israel's
national security bad, but has make a man.
and quoted the new york times. An idea spokesperson said questions of
his kind will be looked into at a later stage. They just don't want to talk about what happened on that day. From the point of view of the military and david you've covered the middle EAST for so long. You understand Israel so well, and you know
the way that Israel's sleep at night, when their surrounded by people who openly call for their destruction, why they have a thriving democracy in an economy in all the miracle of Israel. Is that because they trust
the israeli military has then protected. They trusted things like this can happen. They trust that they are one of the most sophisticated intelligence operations in the world
So what is your sense internally inside israel about how that
been shattered a bit and what kind of pressure is in fact
minister Netanyahu under internally from the Israel,
people or are they so focused right now and the effort to defeat hum
ass, their unified and that question willing to accept that will deal with what happened
that day at a later date. So will I
put your finger on one, as has been said,
from untiring for Israel, Israel lived on
it's the strength of its military is is
action that, no matter what its adversaries try to do is real would risk
quickly and decisively, and the opposite happened here. Israel respond
slowly and uncertainly, and I
for israelis across the country. This is then deeply this
granting this this isn t the Malta that the expected and need. I think, there's been a lot of of of second guessing up and down the chain.
I think a lot of this has come to be focused on Netanyahu, a leader
Seen as being more,
cost on his political interests in india
in power than on the unity of the nation. Certainly in the months leading to war, Israel was as divided as I've ever seen it as a correspondent now
as the world's being fought as I talk to israeli really commanders people whose
To have the best sense of of the battle. Battlefield are aren't
those same idea commanders the date they if you, if you want it,
about ideas for where this
and about the day after, as we like to say those things that that the best people in the idea for thinking carefully about, unfortunately, does not put
for consensus behind them yet, and I think
to begin to think about opposed netanyahu scenario,
for israel? He is embattled, losing support the supreme court's rebuff.
judicial reform package makes us
problems, I think, all all the more difficult, but to go to the basics.
issues, as you said, an army that
symbolise the country and on which the country depended seems to have failed here and that really hurts and upsets the whole country
there's two things were talking about in this giant and le maire number one when admiral of reduced talks about complacency syndrome that makes sense for the weeks and months coming up. I mean it doesn't to me, because when they talk about Hamas led
in their lives twenty four hours a day, seven days a week to want to kill jews wanting
EL. It is railways that doesn't sound like you should be complacent. Just you know from the outside, but let's just let's lots entertain that it doesn't
explain what happened in the seven hours. Ok, the eight hours
nine hours where soldiers were
operating on their own, making up stuff on, what's app to try and figure out what to do to help stuck in
traffic solely being like somebody in the moment, was making decisions or not
and that's the question. I guess I ask you, as the white house interested in these answers. As they work to help their partner, the working on wars on two fronts, ok were where they need. Clarity to appeal. Talk,
congress and the american people as to why we are supporting these wars, and I guess my question is
the white house interested in these answers. Are they concerned about the answers
Oh, they most certainly are in from the early days after october, seventh EU officials made it very clear that they were
and to know just what went wrong in this. Is this?
so devastating for prime minister Netanyahu really build himself as the the secure
The national security prime minister, and it's not does its. Both camps
since it, but also being distracted the Netanyahu's
this was on the west bank. He just redeploy took commando units. The idea riots in the days before the attack, because that was playing
He is political base. His coalition government of the extreme right wing settlers in the west bank- that's where he wanted to focus at, is certainly didn't put its focus on.
two state solution and that make a is- is at the heart of the frustration
rising frustration that the white
has with Netanyahu that that they that he is not given licence to this support, they feel like a two state solution, is essential for
peace and stability in the region
as is admirals tribute, is the idea that Israel shouldn't be part of gaza occupation.
Whenever the war does come. The white ass has been so clear about that and yet now. Similarly,
listening- and this comes at at at at at a difficult moment where we're seeing tensions rise in the red sea. The, u S is taking more aggressive acts
to ward off these houthi rebels.
their leaning on Israel to be more targeted in their strikes of Gaza depends on the day
whether israel seems to be listening there or not. But it does seem like that, though Netanyahu's
has become an unreliable partner, the? U s feels he's not go anywhere, at least for now. So u S has to be.
Will the managers? How do you think they can
First and foremost, let me go to the sea for a moment in and what's happening in the red sea. This is
big casino for the global economy. Frankly, this
red sea is the size of the state of california, lies right under the suez canal and
far, that hooty rebels, who are completely creature.
Of iran trained equipped organised, ordered much like Hamas is
these good rebels are actually creed.
meeting the conditions in which the big shipping companies are simply not
going through there is
closing the suez canal now we're
there yet, but you
I could see the outlines of a real blow to the global economy because fifteen twenty percent of the world's shipping,
it true. The red sea, so yeah
we have to continue to work with our friends.
Partners and allies in the region that Israel, but it's also the kingdom of saudi arabia, the? U n e bach rain, as well as our nato allies, who are all engaged in the maritime side in this way
to land for a minute. What I worry about Jonathan here are two things. One is tactical from the report back to make us
questions? How could you
This happened. Another point:
but we haven't touched on, is no plan no tree
No sense of practice
to respond to this. That's pretty well,
market because that's what militaries do they build plans that
you're what their enemies might do? Then they try
against some to me the most striking thing in the new york times.
Reporting was that the lack of any kind of play-
in training or exercising? As me
go said soldiers
making stuff up that just hurts your heart.
the military professional? You can't conceive it
and then, secondly, at the strategic level. What
does, and this is what would keep me awake at night. If I were in israeli in my bed, is that data
prince, is shattered the opponent
see this week this,
the law says the who these say:
Iran says deterrence. If
shattered is certainly deeply weak and tear those
It concerns the. U s
to stand with Israel in this time, but we have
very troubled partner, leading that nation protect.
admiral james to rate us? Thank you very much for coming on happy new year were glad to have you this coming year in the months to come as we covered this story, and this question still Adam.
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the number one issue for you to the national states- and I welcome them to the final twenty twenty presidential debate with critical votes were killed still too closed
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b c much as him in his retribution is
must call like falling. He has over his most diehard supporters that the threats that harassment, the death threats that you get one
targets you and he's deliberate and targeting is is- is really horrifying
It has no place in our american discourse and as unlike anything, I've seen in the decades plus I've been in
politics are a singular focus needs to be.
He is the nominee on making sure that he is not elected. The president again,
next november, even if that means elected democratic chile. Disappointing because I look at these options and I'm upset with them, but at the end of the day, I trust one person
with our government and democracy than I do the other, and so I'm never voted for a democratic, my life. But I think that
sex selection. I would put policy aside and choose democracy former trump
white house aid speaking out on the dangers of a potential second trump term. The supreme court is poised to rule
one of the most consequential ballot cases in a
in history. At least two states now have ruled former president Tromp is not eligible to hold the office of the present
see, the colorado case has already been appealed. If the supreme court agrees to hear the case, the near
times rights, justice as well,
in the shadow of two competing political realities, the times reports they will be reluctant to rest from voters the power to
assess MR trumps conduct, particularly given the certain backlash that would bring yet
It will also be wary of giving MR trump the electoral boost of an unqualified
victory in the nations highest court chief justice. John Roberts will doubtless seek consensus or
Please try to avoid a partisan split of the six republican appointees against the three democratic one.
joining us now. The author of that peace, supreme court rapporteur for the new york times, Adam look tat. Also with this.
conversation former: u s attorney and emerson bc, legal, endless, Joyce bands Adam in your reporting. What is the question before the courts here because
while in some of your analysis, there's a concern about looking partisan or tipping,
scales. Isn't the question about engage
an insurrection whether or not he did. The quest
for the court is illegal question in that
she is whether the fourteenth amendment to the constitution adopted
after the civil war bars.
people who have first taken an oath to support the constitution and then,
engaged in insurrection and lots of people think the case against donald trump is airtight. Then he did both of those things.
But there are a lot of sub issues and
threshold issues that may be attractive to the court if it takes the case, it hasn't taken a case yet, but the colorado
republican party has already asked the court to take the case. It act really fast before this super
stay primary. So it's it's quite likely according age,
You guys are asking a second about how quickly the supreme court needs to take this up, how quickly at it well. But let's talk about its job in this case, is it not the job of the supreme court here to interpret the constitution without concern for the political
a clash with the questions that might arise for
country which are all noteworthy and things we should probably concerned about, but in terms of the justices on that court, are they not
Looking at whether this is constitutional, that's the job,
is Adam points out? The issue in front of them is the pure legal issue of transatlantic billowy. The court isn't supposed to take into account any political considerations, but I think
I'm dead on the money when he talks about there being a lot of potential procedural or france that the court can take. That would permit trumped
on the ballot, and I think in
The situation is difficult to believe that dell completely divorced themselves from the policy considerations. A lot of people are concerned
and about removing the choice from the hands of voters. But if we look at it strictly
the legal matter. There are certain eligibility criteria to be. President you'll have to be thirty five. You have to be
of born citizen. Those sorts of criteria are a little bit more black and white than this question of whether
Not trump engaged in insurrection said that I,
spect is the area that the court will focus on if they want to avoid disqualifying him based on the fourteenth amendment.
Joyce. What about the speed? Some of these ballots are to be printed in a matter of days. Actually, so how quickly can we expect the supreme court to move here right
supreme court could go ahead and accept the case based on the existing petition. They might decide that they want to wait for the former present
to actually file the notice of appeal here
the bottom line, the trunk does not feel this ruling and the court doesn't hear the appeal from the colorado
working party than he will not be on the ballot in that state, maybe that
then he believes survivable, but with so many other states and in play main is
when one of them there another of under other states. Looking at this, I think the court will have to go ahead and take up the issue and with
least main in colorado. Part of the super tuesday primary group. They need to do it quickly, Adam
prior experience covering the highest court. To put this in some context, for us seems like the most important election.
His case since gore, v bush in two thousand and frankly, one of the most important cases that it may ever take and men beyond that. Tell us the role of what you, how you see chief justice roberts approaching this and what sort of strategy or consent
still he might try to use
the court, as you know, is embattled it's going through a rough period if its public approval ratings are down. It's been the subject of ethics scandals,
and this is not a case the chief justice is eager to have, but its problem
Leon unavoidable. This question needs a national solution.
and his impulse is gonna, be to try to avoid doing damage to the legitimacy of the court, which is six three republican democrats split of the applicant on the court would give rise to
So I think he would look for consensus. He would look for something incrementally would look for something technical.
There are, as we been discussing off ramps their ideas that congress has to act
first, firstly, that it's a political question, so I think the chief justice will will want to find a way not to give trump of victory year, but to tell the american public, then it's not
the court is not taking a position on the question of whether engage an insurrection, but probably
look for some technical way to rule for trump, but not in
kind of earth shattering way. This is not a court. That's been particularly sympathetic to donald trump, it's a conservative gourd, but in his rebuff-
Trump and his allies, when they tried to get the court to overturn the election,
and when the men had ba and its congressional committee sought records from him. The cord voted. Seventy two against trump
with all of the throne batboy these in the majority and only justice is thomas and Alito in descent.
There is some reporting that tat far present trump is very worried about this and Joyce it's very hard to count how many differently
the battles this former president is fighting at the same time in this case
colorado and main the only states that are doing something like this.
You know, do not make up other state
have ruled the trump does get to remain on the
EL. The minnesota supreme court has taken that position and their proceedings
a host of states. This is complicated because
don't have one national election, we ve got fifty different state elections with different rules, so, for instance, in key
colorado, trump path to establish his eligible to run in that drove. Some of that ruling
in michigan where the lies a little bit different. The the courts have held. The trump is ellen
to remain on the ballots, at least for the primaries. So all of this complexity adds up to atoms point that the supreme court
We will have to decide this issue. We can't have a patchwork quilt of fifty different states with fifty different rules when it
to a presidential election
MSNBC legal, analyse, Joyce, vance, one of the co host of the sisters and law podcast. Thank you very much supreme court. Rapporteur. For the new york times
adam look tat. Thank you for your reporting this morning. We appreciated and still ahead. It appears the college football play off committee. Got it right, both game,
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Monday night in Houston for the national championship journeys. Now the host of Pablo Torah
is out on meadowlark media ii, spans pablo tory our good buddy, publicly,
I see him and hello happy new year, happy new year to you. So let's go in order, we'll go back Joe's, not here, so we can talk openly. Well, we used to talk about loss which is painful for all of us. We should talk about Joe.
I know this is embarrassing for everybody that I cannot
I cannot yell at him willie like Joe
that this game Joe saw a nick team, which I would say this its impressive that they got here
What happened at the end of this game
raised all sorts of questions that I would have loved to make fun of jealous. You didn't like that.
At the end. The call that we'll get to in this highlight reel, because it was back and forth alabama was up in the fourth quarter, but it gets to overtime and they run zealand middle row on it's actually, a quarterback sneak right up the middle, and he just
collapses to the floor and look
mission, the horrible,
and of this I want to also like doff my cap. This is a man who was a little bit
napoleon elbow elba little bit of ankle, monitor house arrest. His season dissolve spying scandal, but his
She can t objectively
mortality turns out in alabama which not a sentence you can save very often, and so
Imagine that some, whereas this play is unfolding in michigan, is rolling down to three years overtime: late go out there.
an impressive iran and somewhere there is Joe in the stands. I presume weeping make out an oak and beech that these things, but I feel like when you hear the play
running right into line and people are just like that's what we called after, like five.
It's time out as it now milborough can use it, for
Well, runner, yes, is a low snap. I'll say that kind of killed the defense, but still that's tough right up the gut against a run defense that had been so good all night. Yes, just chicken michigan's d.
its dominance of alabama is often wine, I think, was most shocking part of the game.
Around the championship game against washington. Yet twenty feet it made me doesn't get all the love it deserves. I think it will start to now. Michael panics junior is incredible finnish. Second, in the highest men,
the fourth thirty last night and credible ill, this game
down to the last play as well. Yeah he's about to suspenseful games. The first game was a defensive slugfest. This one was more offense.
This is no slouch either, and so this game was certainly more back in
if Michael panics jr, as you said, might be a top three pick in the nfl draft, a guy that will see I dunno if they put kids on an adult,
media boxes anymore, but like he's a candidate for that sort of thing through brazilian our yards, as you said, but
watching these games willie.
I'm thinking to myself. I don't know how many people are familiar with the experience that is, the washington huskies and suddenly the national championship game you're, going to see a team unload. All of that that canada
national michael critics, as holder is gonna, be unfold display.
and this was a game- admittedly, they got a little harry at the end, Washington had one of those lights
Age game, like experiences where you're, like I hope, they're not gonna, just blow this and choke it away. They should have neil that they didn't try to run it. What they are,
ass, Texas and it was,
el butter to the end, I think we can say: can we not that the committee? After all the consternation rough lord estate and everything else, got it right here, these eyes that it invests teams? I will state
late. I was watching last night thinking. I still think georgia would beat all these teams, but that's a conversation, friends,
well, Georgia would love to have it. I mean Florida. The state of florida would would like to have it less because they are blowing up by fifty six arts degree airy. Yes, yes, all the votes have been counted got out by sixty. It's embarrassing for f you. They threatened legislation because they were left out of this. Georgia lost alabama Kennedy and complain too much, but I think they got a right
Your political system, I daresay worked
Ok, let's just quick, nfl man,
Baltimore ravens look Lamar jack, probably the envy p. I think he led my fantasy team, most importantly to a championship.
on sunday. You whispering this before the segment and I was like we're really going to yeah fantasy deserved it. I mean they smoked, a pretty good miami team that absolutely fifty sixth nineteen and the baltimore ravens look. There's been this carousel of teams all season, because I believe the nfl is the most defined by mediocrity this year, who is the best team,
it's and right now the answer is unequivocally the baltimore.
And Lamar jackson is. The envy. Lamar Jackson is saying records. He's a guy who's been question
Whether he's a real quarterback he's a quarterback enough and yeah. Looking at this throw gritty quarterback have sufficiently quarterback he, I daresay, and so the dolphins were once the team that everybody was afraid of, and here come the baltimore ravens, statistically, as well as just by the eye test old scouts, love the
It has looked at what you're
I tell you this is the team.
It's probably gonna win the super bowl. Assuming everything holds or they're telling me the mars vary quarterback. He really quick. What's up with the eagles, they look man, they look terrible. Lately they were the previous answer to who's going to win the super bowl, while the team that was in the superbowl last year lost it, but now they're back into the vengeance. They have. This play the tush push that no one can stop. They push. Jalen hurts
cheeks and no can figure out how to solve this. Well, the cardinals the arizona cardinals have now solved that a number of teams in the last month have solved it, and so the filter
The eagles have gone to that very philadelphia place of
total ecstasy a one point to suddenly. I think we got a fire, the head coach. I we get a fire people,
people are angry and I dont have answers for them other than to say that they are in fact, to quote a former cardinals coach dentistry
They are not actually as good as we thought they were eleven months after being the suitable elsie signs want everybody
fire. That's how it works there. You can catch more model of through his podcast pablo tory, finds out on a lark media. Pablo tory always great see my friend. Thank you, sir. Still,
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