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You are so we're we're looking at what is happening in washington, but I've gotta say for those of us who have known donald trump for a long time and followed donald trump refer on trying to borrow star wars, lexicon, there's a disturbance in the fourth day. Like he's, he is shaken made years. There's a front page the daily news talking about poor, donald and, of course, talk about him coming off the forbes list, but we ve always said if you want understand donald trump and said this with very beginning just understand the money, the money I still think a lot of these criminal investigations and the possibility of going to jail too abstract for him but him sitting there in hospital. losing its businesses losing trump tower having to pay two hundred fifty billion. The million dollar said he doesn't have. I think that's tell him, he ll get a look at clip of turning general in new york state that, I think is just kind of had enough

This case was brought simply because it was where individuals have engaged in a pattern in practice of fraud and I will not sit idly by and allow anyone to subvert the law. ass the I will not be bullied, and so mr chop is no longer here. The donald trump show is over. I will not be bullied caddy kay. The Donald trump show it's over. Well, let's see if the show is over, I have feeling we ve got another year and a half of the show to run so early in color, the intermission perhaps, but so far, the first half the show hasn't been looking that great for him up there in the new york courtroom. He does. He has that demeanor of somebody who's who duke whose keep saying

I don't want to be there, but clearly can't stay away and that's what's weird is he's he's volunteering to be there? He doesn't have to be there in the courtroom every day, and yet he then complains that he'd much rather be out on the campaign trail, not that he's done a ton of being out on the campaign trail, but he says the moment I'd much rather be out on the campaign trail and been sitting here in this courtroom. It he's he's made One part of the campaign is campaign manager, sitting right behind him in the courtroom said this: he. He feels that this is a chance for him to appeal to his voters, as all of the others have been. Maybe this time be different or maybe you're right. Maybe it is all about the money and being thrown off the forbes. Four hundred list will matter to summit. Supporters, but so far every time he's had a legal process like this, the reaction from trumps base and some in the middle EAST. Being look the stages overreaching and you know, malaga must be worth more than thirteen million kids. It's always been smoke and mirrors. I mean these money has always been smoke and mirrors moving things around. That's why it's always lied it's why? It's always exaggerated

banker in new york city, no cities lies in exaggerate. person he's gone into business with for the past thirty forty years say and how they re going into business whether because he immediately starts lying, he doesn't pay his bills cause. He doesn't have the money to pay his bills and these facing the possibility of his business being shut down and and his is our being taken away and the stability most frighteningly for him. These he's going Two hundred and fifty million dollars does anybody here think that donald trump as two hundred and fifty million dollars of liquid assets to pay the cord four of five? Because if you do I mean Jesus yeah. I think it's like you did your think. His figures caddies. I think right, that the political impact of this is it'd be almost nothing and the psychic impact is huge, I think that's! Your point is really that accused if you're a student of trump as the man the character, illogical assessment in new york means everything to him.

Come to the washington was never his aspiration of his operation was always to be. All has spilled is big bill, things had more. Having is show people like Jane me, diamond and wise lank, fine and all of them asters of new york finance world who the real boss, wise or and its falling down in front of his eye, or at least that he belonged with them. Hereat grasping thing I want to be in the club. I want to be in this savage man I am now. I want to be the king of new york, whether I build these building seriously. My name on the new york state. central to the psyche right and I think what tissue aims that is the structure was over new york. I mean this is the new york specific case right, where he's losing but its money about that building the branding all that stuff in the Recent manhattan right in that spend. You know the candidate. Since he was really young is how to be the king. Manhattan is no longer welcome, really easily

or boroughs guy, who really you know, wanted to be the king of manhattan. He had his name on buildings all over manhattan. As I said every time. drive out the upper west side heading up to my home in connecticut oats. He said in buildings around on the upper west side. Tramp tramp tramp tramp tramp tramp tramp everyday second, he got it. Did president and he started offending sir two percent of americans, one by one, his name started coming down off of those buildings. It started declined as soon as he became president of the united states. You saw o golf opens, saying there. They weren't gonna be going to his courses. Again, all things that he valued and now the possible worthy of losing his business in new york state, a possibility of tromp towers

Yank problem is wall street, probably being gained from him and again, the very likely that he's gonna have eight. Two hundred and fifty million dollars said nobody there I know that knows him thinks he has diminished ethically, a few years ago, pride, his name off of all of those buildings going up on the west side lincoln square over there. And now, though, this is something else, because trump tower is the monument in his eyes to his success that he made it in manhattan that he did. He came from an outer borough and made it in manhattan. He's got the building with a name on it. It's on fifth avenue has a view of central park and you could see yesterday, you ve seen all this week, John, the fury some of it, of course, is format eddies intimidating witnesses in the judge and the clerk and in all that, but he's really mad when he comes out and those in those moments after when they get a break in the courtroom. Many did it yesterday will play in a second he's right,

He was asked about the cabin mccarthy situation. Did you engineer there's? No? I didn't know that Trial is a sham, it's a which, on and on and on and on. He knows they feel something very important him central to whom he is slipping away and that courtroom room this one cases, not political but its very poor. Yeah. It's very clear, he's very angry. The way you with the little bit of the images we ve seen inside the court room is glowering or, and then he comes. Ever chancy cans and yells of the rapporteur who are gathered out there that he did leave. You won't be he's back and forth. we'll be there today, but it goes how much this essential to his identity, that his long before entered politics he was about becoming this about would be master of the universe in new york city. Never quite she that he was never really accepted by the elite manhattan, he's, always looked down upon as the arrow borough kid and that fetid insecurity that well a lot of the his career choices in interest in politics later on. But this is something that also imperils his four

and he he's not worth what he says. He probably doesn't have that money, but he still augustine rich man and now he's going to change in some ways in that he's not gonna, be able to have what he is shades as success, which is which is money and an end to defend the comes along, that I think we are seeing here he's for now. the attorney general standing up to- and this is the case is good on four months, but it's a problem. The problem is acting be there today will play more of what he said yesterday get into where it's going from here, but we want to go to washington first and the race to become the next speaker of the house. To republicans now have announced they are running to replace Kevin Mccarthy. They are, as expected, chairman of the judiciary, committee, Jim Jordan and majority leader steve's least lawmakers says the has of making calls to sharp support and has met with the texas republican delegation, the largest in the party, it's been the number two republican leader under Mccarthy, since twenty nineteen, Jim Jordan was the

to announce his bid for speaker. The founding chair of the house. Freedom caucus is now, sir, as one of the parties leaders in the impeachment inquiry into President Biden and the also close ally of former speaker mccarthy, in their letters to lawmakers, pitching their candidacies, both Jordan, scully pledge to unite the republican conference may, while congressmen Kevin hearn of Oklahoma. I'll reportedly intends to run for speaker. Hearn is the chief the republican study committee and also has met with the texas delegation, Joe so renamed the top that were odds on favorites, we all expect of Jim Jordan and steve's police. Allies of Kevin Mccarthy, but obviously also people. If we Democrats, Ok, something better is coming behind these. In fact, jordan anywhere the very people who are leading the impeachment inquiry and have been the defenders of donald trump. Some of the things of Democrats say they objected to and Kevin Mccarthy and why they didn't vote to keep

women office yeah. They have people that are leading a lot of these conspiracy theories and Jackie. I mean, I know, Democrats if democrats up to a gym. Jordan. Speakership I mean who knows they may be asking questions like. Why didn't a few more of us vote present, but but right it remains remains of a conference. That's indeed disarray. a conference. It's trying to figure out ford and I've. Gotta say if they get here. Brains and there- and I dont know if they do, but they got to worry about but like mike lawlor is Jim george speakership going to help our hurt mike lawlor and other p, Poland swing districts get reelected so they can stay in the majority next time, yet

really interesting day on the hill yesterday is pretty quiet. I think everyone is for the recall of rating in taking stock of the situation there and we we barely heard anything from Democrats, most of whom are headed up to california for a day and functions funeral, but even on the. republic, inside a lot of closed or meetings hearing these initial pitches from steeps, felicia, Jordan, Kevin hearn and people starting to make heard. What exactly they want to hear from the speaker, Steve Scully more focused on unifying extremely fractured, how she'll be conference and Jim Jordan a little bit more focused on the detail, saying you know talking about his plans for for what happens in forty days and when the continuing resolution expires, what he will and won't fund, including he does not want to re up funding for ukraine, which is a big

and of contention amongst the gnp house conference and then a lot of venting. I much of the house conference, but people like MIKE mccall and seems a majority, the house conference who want to fund ukraine. Well, well, based on that initial vote that we already had, there is a growing pool of people who who are against it and that actually could potentially tip the scales here. Of course it did to be seen whether or not Democrats get involved here down the line and are sort of interested in some sort of coalition government doing right now that has been ruled out by well, people that I that I spoke to have you know been on a minute background capacity yesterday that it's that that conversation is not even on the table on the republican side in democratic south. Exactly that they're, you know, republicans are still furious at democrats, especially in the bipartisan problem, solvers caucus for

what they claim is. Sadly, I help me here. I now need- and I did so if your end- and I know I probably I'm- set some progressive yesterday by saying you know- maybe you think about protecting the institution in you, keep the guy who's, not gonna, deep sea ukraine, funding and adult replace him with jordan, but we can expect a keen jeffreys. They come out and say please vote for cabin mccarthy. If you are the problem, solvers carcass a cock, as that is meant to print, attacked the institution amateur of the united states congress, do you know as a member of the problem, solvers cock as go: hey guys Why don't? We all just spoke present on the democratic, we're pretty at the end. There will be keeping my honest short leash will lead oh that if, if you know and then suddenly, you have a small group of people that power. I will say there were about twelve

You remember when I was there. We had twelve thirteen fourteen people and we had disproportionate amount of power, but we used it wisely. They know that does were this work sets figure out a compromise. So the problem offers were actually in a position where could have saved mccarthy gone to women. Demonic shortly, say in beggars at you didn't ask us to do this, we're not They do it again. If, if a view of a view keep moving forward in a way that's destructive. institution, but they didn't do it Why is there a problem? Solvers carcass then saw the ban on the fifth day day. Just one word at one of the worst crises and, and these analyses three go buy em, but it goes to show just how deep the ranks

and distrust is firm. Mccarthy. Essentially, there were, as democrats said, to Brian Fitzpatrick in some of the other leaders of the caucasus. We will help you if you make some changes to the rules package, basically getting rid of the motion to vacate, which is what has allowed mac gates, and these far right and surgeons really take the the the geo p conference hostage and even outside of congress democracy scholars. A lot of people have agreed that the rules package, as is it you know, is really crucial. to the system and penalized people for working across the aisle and doing anything in a bipartisan basis, essentially what they were told in return, as we don't have time to do this. The vote to vacate mccarthy is happening today. Can't get a new rules package on it's just, not realistic and demographics through hands up and said. Well, you know this problem is much

then today and the rules package. There are a number of things. Mccarthy has done down the line to betray us. We can't you, we can trust you guys, Mccarthy can't be trusted, we're not gonna bailing out, but you're. You make it really valid point: a mundane levinsky former congressmen from shore Illinois said yeah today, that in twenty fifteen she was in then speaker, banners office and banner suggested to him that when my meadows was trying to overthrow the government and to turn to overthrow speaker, banners perch and must be the speaker that hello see suggested to him. We got your back if, is emotion to vacate you. We will vote affirmatively against, and she was an institutionalized and that that is not what we saw this time about one of the key pillars that when we come back, I don't you back and sixty circuits we'll come back and sixty seconds willie guys. is going to ask Michael steal. The two most

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we go next. The turning point, documentary series on MSNBC and streaming on pick up the republican party a day just check over ass. He policy with a five more majority she was able to govern. The Democrats have become the party of discipline in the republicans upon the party that lacks discipline, that tell her swift, their question answer very soon like us here yes said this very began. It reads is where our flight or said, which is everything, We only have five vote majority: how in the world he can't even make scrambled eggs and toast with a five vote majority, he can't even walk his dog. He can't take basic breath. He can like all these things because he's got a five vote. Majority Nancy

Well, let's see one: seventy n b, a championship pot, see gallery, see scale the address you see throughout the first, the twenty twenty two world series, and it was so good. They then had her pitch for being a game. A game, seven will VI vote majority to win and by the way you know how you knew something was going to ass. We managed to put it on the floor. If that you put it also that's what I said yesterday, I re cinema is harder than it is. Politics comes down down the people and it down. It comes down to two personalities and building relationships, and it comes the planet like I'm sorry, what eddie it would ever put a vote on the floor did they know they were going to low carbon?

nor are unless they really want to make a stupid point, and that's when you do something like that that that this always right and that in order to go when you gotta have a governing philosophy. You gotta have a purpose a reason to move the country from where it is to some place. You think, is better and you have to be able to express that openly and honestly with voters, and be able to do the politics of what you're talking about which what Nancy did see new were her votes, were she knew where they weren't and she knew how much worse he didn't have she needed to get it right away. It wasn't always easy. Were there? No one was not in the squire came on and they were the real progress that ITALY are. Not those of the thing was set it down, they can hold. She remember what they were saying. Green, you know are unit support the green, whatever it was agreed and dirty guess what what's a good deal new deal, what either she

allow yourself to be pushed in the corner. She also didn't say things about members of her step, they worked it out behind closed to deliver on what she probably that that was the other things, that no time and again we hear of cabin mccarthy from I mean that why did Nancy mace? Who is not in that group of eight year one zero? You write a figure that visa seems to be tat. Anyone, ok, what's viruses, I can t at LA that's half, maybe what ujiji an identity crisis of flagging nancy makes one that one day, she's truth teller, the next day she like mrs gates, what it means, what does she want? Some ass, I don't know, I thought the profile I've been working on. Her is been languishing because it's also growing that out, but part of it isn't, but those personal relationships you're talking about a lot of these companies, people who voted against Mccarthy, it's like he just he treated them badly. They they felt as right as hard done by as democrats, but I come back

with policy the thing that this whole conversation goes back to, which is thus that we talked about yesterday there one word strength. You can't led a fractious caucus if you seem week, if you if you project that you can be pushed around and you could be had Mccord started his tenure by saying basically gates is going to I'm going to give my my my, but my blood pancakes put my balls in his pocket for, for the rest, for our program. Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, never projected thing. Other than strength with anybody fractious, are causing the moderates. We're about to combat lead on their right to move to a squad. What stride astray she we know them in. Yes, she also was she personal relationships behind the scenes, but it out and fraud she was like. I will not be pushed around, but anybody my caucus, you can lead, That kind of you. If you like, your husband- and I, like all my colleagues to take a first of all- you lead with strength publicly and you say can't do that and then you go to, and you say I'm leaving,

not hard kids if you want to get into politics, job I've ever had you go to my go. Listen. I can't do that I don't know you need it? I can't do that, but tell me what I can do for you fran be two or three or four things, or maybe I'm just I'm hold on to you for it for the rest of this session, and I'm going to be can for you around account, but I can't do what you're asking you to do it breaks up the conference. It doesn't. Work We gotta get this bill on the floor. You give me it's about, and I know Does it feel great I'll? Go to your district? If you need me to explain it to you, I'll give you two three more things will announce an unveiling in your district of something I can get the car prince to do that, we can work it. That's her pros. Do it, they don't just tell member. You know I have your whatever in my pocket or that you don't insult me. It's it's a constantly working them.

and that's what I don't understand about Kevin Mccarthy. You knew this train was coming from minds and he just sat there like he was in an austin powers movie. I think part of it was he he thought that he could avoid some of it. I think he thought that there were probably be more members in the caucus who would have his back enter johns point because he failed on those other fronts. In turn building those relationships and a clear picture of what accounts he knew they work in italy on who had the whip counts. But again it's all about the house. you come into the game. He came the game wrong. He came in, the room, the wrong way she left. He gave all the power one or two end of rivals out, so what he said so in time. What do you do is andrew to start working not to make a caddy sound too easy board? You do if you know you're, starting with the disadvantage. You work too an advantage and in your work

twenty four hours a day going k. What do I do? I know these three people are going to go off. Me any chance I can get. I need to talk that he came, I need it three or four democrats about present on anything I'll do occur, deal with him that my conference will never know about, and then I'm going like everybody else around those people in turn, my the series and allies, or at least make a mood for me. That's a sort of stuff. He could have done. That's what Nancy voted on two october. I would have done building up a ring of defence by figuring out. What can I give them that they need, and you do it right in the beginning and see if there's a way that you can find some kind of majority. That's going to support you when you know that that motion to vacate is going to come because it is going to come, because my gates have made it clear right from the beginning. It was going to come. I'm gonna, guess, you're the difference between the squad and this gang Is that the majority of that gang of on nihilists? When it comes,

government, they have no interest in making it work. Was that's not true of the squatter me those they came from the progressive wing of the democratic party, but they didn't want to blow up the institutional They were not interested in government failing because they want proof to their voters that gun doesnt work and shouldn't be funded and that's a difference. difference for me- is that Kevin Mccarthy they had nothing to give. It's Kevin Mccarthy, because it was nothing was a value to the system to the structure. To your point. They want blow the one thing the squire was about a policy green new deal. We want this on the environment. We want this. We want that these guys in want that. So what what can a bargain? Have you haven't environment with the devil? What how does that? Well work? Yes, actually, I have him out right now that he was on the hill as well, and what would you do it when you get to? The point? Wasn't lay still what nothing but attention what you give them Give them attention and use

listen, I have a task force. This is gonna, be a big or tends to be allowed a lot of it's gonna, be a border task force on building the new wall. You gonna be ensured Heaven and you're going to be chairman, I spelled out from a mile away, they ve been how many times have I ve been told that destroy just ass. What that's? What I'm saying you you, you name you name as have the waiting bag. Just I think I just group is one point The original sin was he gave back. Is then that closer the ability whence he came down any more change? It was That is our job without well, then, then, you, then you have to eat you kid. There's gotta be a baby stays. It's always get the job. I hear he's gonna, wait and again when you find yours for the position. I daresay by his Joe leadership, one a wine by them. if you want to sign up for the online course, if you and yourself any disadvantage like that. If you put yourselves behind the eight ball light that right you're at this disadvantage, your job at that,

why does do immediately began mitigating damages and you're working twenty four hours a day seven days a week to mitigate the damage, is you're going into a jonathan or mere, and you know you're really difficult position, but you did what you had to do to become speaker, and then it's time to mitigate damages. Now your people go. You can't reason with anybody. Oh, you can't buy off anybody. You can't just stop right there. You can buy anybody with with way a committee assignments where we have tasks. Ass forces with find razors where the hay, you like to meet my friend Johnny Smith. islands, the largest iron or whatever, whatever the issue at what are these people want? There's always a aid to mitigate damages and care? Then just sat there like with his feet in cement for like a year end

part of the problem would undermine mccarthy and certainly gates, and his crew optically tricky group to deal is it he lost everyone's trust? That's it! We kept hearing from Republicans Democrats alight the mccarthy we station in the moment to them to win their support, but never follow through with his half of the bargain that simply he broke a lot of promises: he told a lot of lies, but on this theme of republican chaos, there's no as this is going to end anytime soon are always I spoke to yesterday. They point to the schedule of electing a new speaker, a candidate form on tuesday. Maybe the vote on Wednesday. No one thinks that's gonna hold. They don't think. Anyone who has the ability to get the number of votes needed to become speaker? The two seventeen, because there are a couple of vacancies right now, Jake sherman, appreciable news was with me, I'll wait, surely an hour ago, he actually things that neither Jim Jordan nor steve's deletes the two favorites right now that you foreigners, he doesn't think either of them will eventually be speaker. He was thinking they do not believe they can be get enough votes because they can't win over those handful of binding.

Four republicans, would look at george escalation and believe they will put them in uncovering positions. Make them take votes that will do their seats? So he believed the next speaker is someone we're not even talking about just yet, but we could rule out one person there Some republicans reformed eddie of donald trump, because you don't to be a member of the house to be speaker trumped up early this morning, His posting saying he wants to help out in the short term, with the speaker's race, but that help elect a new speaker, so he is itself that he will not side the willie. He will not become the next speaker of the house, he's focusing, becoming presidents about vowing out and they re grace. Well, I'm so jackie many by the way call role. Has it up at the wall street journal this morning, what you say not a fan of mac, gate, scrawl row, its pre us moving in its take down and the implications for the republican party as well. So let's talk about what really happens from here, a lot of people said:

The number by the way is to seventeen, because there are two vacancies. It's notes are four hundred and thirty three members right now, so you have to get two hundred and seventeen votes to become the next speaker of the house. who is the most likely candidate to get too to seventeen, who some the names that are are rising to the top of the last year. There were so right now it's steve syphilis, Jim Jordan, cabin and then there are a few other people who are sort of a lurking around the background waiting to see if there might be an opportunity for them to to shoot the gap and take advantage of what's like going to happen, which is that Scully in jordan are going to split the vote. Neither of them are going to be able to get to that to seventeen and some there. There are lots of rumors and lots of speculation going on right now, one of the ideas being that actually patrick MC henry. Who is right now the protests speaker could benefit from

Some of the fracture sniff that we ve seen and basically, if republicans tire of this situation and of trying to two hash this out behind closed doors, patrick MC henry is relatively well liked by some democrats. Although his move to oust mccarthy and who we are your hide a ways now studying how did not sit very well that maybe he could be the one you would emerge as a voice of reason and patched together some sort of bipartisan coalition. But there are a lot of Peace is here and but at the end of the day, there is not the same sort of hostility towards some of these people, as there was for mccarthy minute of mac aids, bob good a bunch of these guys hated mccarthy and did not want him to be speaker and no matter what or what do they do. That is a really good point. an actual, and I think that there is more of a story there that we don't quite know what we saw, some of it actually from

did he Hutchinson behind her back? Do you have something to do with the herd game Richard said on toll halprin that it the dew web gains as to very serious ethics. Charges and mccarthy wouldn't get rid of that vat. Is it son, speculation. We don't actually know the status of the ethics investigation, that's going on in the house right now. It would be in the attic committee and then sent to the house ethics committee once that report is done, and then members would have to decide what their ultimately going to do with that and and the house had essentially picked up that investigation once the department of justice decided that they were going to, they declined to prosecute gates for sex trap charges, but yet gauge doesn't have a good reputation here amongst even his own peers, and then we had a piece tuesday. That was essentially you know. Why does everybody hate mac gates? She has not one

well a lot of friends for his tactics and for some of his behavior I mean remember in two thousand and twenty one, there were reports that we reported as well of him showing pictures of inappropriate pictures, and in crude comments on the house floor that came out yesterday on cnn and a member said that was us. That's all that was bright back of the time, but on cnn I don't know if it sounded more recent, but he was saying that he was showing images of ham, doing things with women around the house. One extra crushing up certain else and sniffing at and on the house floor and and worse, just a guy like that they don't like began concerning appropriate, almost every across all across ideology. I think that's god but unites the parties. There was just there's just a personal animosity there, but I don't think exists with some of these other contenders, willie and and willie. I thank you for looking past

Whenever Jonathan mere does somebody said at thirty rock you keep work and waiting regardless all kinds of stuff. You just after I was just cost, got it, was very colorful story, told by one max his republican colleagues on the hill. It's all coming out now. You can see the frustration that clearly has been pen up for a long time. The Washington post's jackie alimony. Thank you, as always, for your excellent reporting would talk to you again soon coming up here. Did I'll drop admit to the fraud that a judge, as him liable for in new york will play for you former president said outside the courthouse yesterday that caused the attention of many legal experts were back in. The

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That means absolutely nothing he's here. Lost inside the courthouse, god he can talk to the press ali wants but he knows he's lost. I mean this All is preparation is framed, prevent people tat thing when, when, when he's found guilty of fraud yeah and it's a direct play to his base right and it's that all all he's doing, there is talking to his supporters and and hoping that he can talk to some people in the middle of the political spectrum. haven't made their mind up, got him in, and the victims and the men, time and again with donald trump. Is I'm the victim of the system wrong? I'm the victim of the state over, which they hate me so much that this is yet another incidents where they have been age of me with their prosecuting me and that they have a rich, and there are plenty of total trump supporters who believe it. There are plenty of people,

Actually you are in the kind of you haven't made up their minds yet who have some sympathy with that argument, and he just uses these appearances in court there why he set his uses, it kind of countries that you refer to mobilise go to bed. I do know that the directive is the data. Is the data that fraud is on the documents and lunch like without, let's bring your right now MSNBC justice and legal affairs and was anthony colleagues most recently, the tab spokesmen department of justice under attorney general merrick, garland will there's another attorney general up in new york state who same trump shows. Are you believer adieu and she is really make a name for herself. What I really really watching coming out of this trial this week is not just what tis James said to the country, but while this judge rule from the bench in terms that this limit it gag water, what he really say, really drew the. Why right?

There are served as a certain level of criticism that any public official voltaic rambo when you talk about people's staff with lies in a new window. That's where He drew the line that he should have drunk she should have drawn. While I like it, I like those are very limited gag right. Specifically to people work for him. For some reason it has to be expanded out a little bit later on. It has to be expanded out later on, but again for the fool. and I've heard quite a few of them running around saying that this is this is somehow yet the deep state going after Donald trump- and this is horrible, yet another network it seemed their constant refrain was well. If I do this to donald trump, they can do to you when you say can do this to you. Viewed a fraud here stayed like a quarter of a bill We in dollars and again its own paper right there

This is not like trying to draw a line of conspiracy, it's on paper. He over The maids his net worth he lies about it. He submits that attacks. Tax authorities. He submitted to banks he's been busted. That's right, every legal challenge that down from the spacing right now he brought on his on this Nah he's not some victim of awoke prosecutor or a biased judge, which is what he wants all of us to believe. I do want to pick up on one thing that Kate Katie said earlier and I do I think that, because there are so many cases happening right now. These things are beginning to mel together for the public, we're not paying attention to the particular facts in any of these cases, because the facts are so clear and so overwhelming against donald trump rubber there looking at it

on big hodgepodge of of a picture in their mind of a donald trump, was under relentless attack from right. That's what that's! Why are real I hope we can find some waved, certainly in these federal trials, for cameras to be in these courtroom damages are that it so because there is so much misinformation and discrimination and a way to convince the public that he is being treated fairly as they keep. The fact is. I just relax see it like, they saw o j like they saw amber and that other guy who is on pirates of the caravan Firstly, the council, because the answer your famously just apple comes from a simple country lawyer. Do you want to? I do want to ask the question about about the gag orders right, so this judges issue this limited gag order. This is going to be the issue in every case. The trump has going forward.

At least one of those cases we think might actually have under the campaign. Right. You know, trump he's he's not being is not likely to be strange, you know, he's gonna, be the campaign trail attacking wrote, judges prosecutes jury members everybody's about one proposal? These do it every day, but and there's we live in a gag rules for going to try to get. What can be. Is that it does robert out at some point meet the road where someone's gonna have to be a trump just flouts these gag orders are the campaigns well and says: hey, I'm the first member right, I'm running for office, I can say whatever I want. Is there not going to come where you can actually like sort slot became contempt. Citations put it threatened him with jail like how does that play out as a practical matter in the context- and I ve never seen before a present, your nominee of one we're already. It may be the first. The first thing that every one of these judges is going to remember is the first thing that they were taught about the first amendment and and and free speech when they were in their constitutional law class. I mean politik

Speech is the most protected speech. Man you have a remarkably tough burden to overcome. If you were going to stop squelch limit political space, you better believe that every one of those those orders that are better than are drawn up, every gag orders can be tight, bright and its? to be limited and and violation is going to be so obvious on my face, and so agreed just as the shock the consciousness of most americans that that vacant say too that stated donald trump. Do it again run ray and exhort. I'm going to talk to you and if you can't get get it right. I'm going to send you to jail and let you think about it. So how is that? Look like great mistake, This federal case, for example, october sixteenth, just tanya, chuck

asked his hearing in federal court. How does she thread that nato? On the one hand she can threat it by saying you know what? Yes we're gonna enter this limit gag water down? from you, are allowed to say that these are political prosecutions right. Okay, you can do that not ideal, but whatever your run for president, but what she will not allow why she must not. Allow is continued intimidation of witnesses and these trials right. What we just saw less, This attack on general george, our general milly, the chairman of the joint chiefs, us that he is a witness in this federal case. You can and should not be allowed to intimidate him or anybody else. That's how she is going to have to read the nato it carries on doing that. What's the retribution-

poison the rest resource to remedy I mean don't use what I think will happen. I think he will ultimately try to appeal this and is going to go to the supreme court, and I was listening intently to neo catty are our friend was the acting solicitor general, who was did an interview with Alex Wagner last night and he appropriately noted that this is a court who believes I strongly put aside what their views are on abortion, but they a very strongly and the core of other corps in the legitimacy of court. He makes the argument. I tend to agree that this court is going to stand up. ain't gonna bright tat. These types of I agree that as long as they're tightly drawn right to write acting witnesses to protecting judicial staff to protecting prosecutors, to protecting lawyers involving the rays. If there is a tight nexus there than the roberts court will uphold,

ever limitation senator whether they are back of a drawn that can be drawn as tight as you want? Plenty of it is, as was already seen just yesterday, tonnell trop, right basically says to his followers, you do it, you do it right. And there is no, I mean right at the end of the day, I don't think this system is prepared to deal with this money at yet, as I think that the other night around me, there's gonna, be a judge. That's gonna, say where's that job that judges is gonna say with this complex, so you need to come into the court room. We put it border on you, you violated the gag order here can either go to jail? for two days. You want to appeal it to the supreme court. I'll, tell you what I'm going to do, I'm going to let you walk around. Can I send you straight to jail? You appeal to the united states. Supreme court will see what they have to say. when it comes to invite you ve already shaded it. This is my point. Ninety this I've already shows you. So I'm not gonna put you jump the let's walk you and I go to jail

the point you get you give donald trump, every benefit of the doubt he's gotten every benefit of the doubt. That's diatribe, Michael. If the judge rules he's in contempt of court and needs to spend time in a federal penitentiary. Ok to say, you're going to spend a week in a federal penitentiary pending the ps. I got that mankind hardly eel joe, I'm that I agree with you. If they goes up to the supreme court, the roberts The court is not going to allow any defended any defended derived over a judge, our threaten a judge, they're going to uphold it and he's gonna be going to jail with the full weight of the united states supreme court, that conservative, united states supreme court sank he below he's in jail for a week or not argue with any of that, I'm just saying the process is not prepared to deal with the outcome from that. Was that

the ending of sexually sending him to jail and that's the hesitation this system right now it is not prepared to pull the trigger you just described, and I don't care what judges sitting behind what bench. They're they're going to say, there think long and hard about what you just described happening doing about that's the problem in the sand, and we just gave him the pathway can't hide. I had a conversation states only from trunk campaign close to campaign Hussein's look. They won't stop us talking because all of us borders are going to carry on talking and you know what would do well just set up a nonprofit we'll have a nonprofit. Do that nonprofit, who is not actually donald trump, we'll tweet out the kind things that we want to get out anyway and we'll get round it that way, but find donald trump. Yes, the earlier question is whether whether you have this, whether the system about giving judge when the rubber it's the roads, will they actually sent him to jail? And that is the question

it'd be great. If he'd buy blackberry repeatedly flouts gag orders, pretty simple, you know I think the supreme court will be behind it. I think all that will happen, but will a judge say I'm going to put maybe highway oarsmen, and although we have a serious question, we gotta go to break now. Man is above the law in this area. the justice and legal analysts affairs analyse and they call you thank you so much. I always great have agreed here all right and coming up democratic said Joe mentioned, I is going to be our gas. We ask him what here Issa the republican chaos in the house and ask him if he's going be run for president julie, alleys quickly losing members of his legal team why they keep jumping ship and what were now learning about federal. Prosecutors digging into his reported drinking problem, something that even the tromp campaign was walking about in twenty sixteen, but mainly been whispered. It's on the front pages of the new york times today, because there's some legal dimensions to admonish I'll, be right back and

Ask you that's news headlines, interior takers unearthing, nothing too crazy, but there But whatever is talking about Travis and teaching you Joe, but it is what Rowan talking about. I covered the news every day. What's going on with our trump and Kevin Mccarthy in congress, and all that and you when on my phone it pops up and like baby Travis kills, his jersey sales are up four hundred percent. That is other headline he's like that's, not something, but I don't. I don't know exactly what's going on. I do have a little bit of a theory. I hope it's a controversial, I'm happy for both of them. They seem like great people yeah. Is there any chance that this is all a one, big capital? One camera well. In other words, are we going to go through weeks of this and at the end they turned to the camera and say what's in your wall yeah? I think this is real. Do you think it's real? I think it says I hope it is. I think it is an active, both cool people, very cool. I think I would love it

It's almost like when you see to people that they should day like yeah. I wanna be at that part of yes, I would It is perhaps no I'm totally on board. I just want to put it in the universe. If it happens that I was right capital one add I'm telling you well wait. Maybe maybe who knows by Dana fails defending its focused on taylor- and travis- and I think caddy is all for it like everybody's. All far, do we want to do is wait. What do I want to say, and I would even say people love it? They runs the downside I see the rio sidewise so long whatsoever. Willie totally agree with it kay view, as I usually do, the vienna without put out his me yesterday, something like football fans. Why do you keep showing taylor swift? Lee should put out a statement quote we frequently change our bios in profile, imagery basin, what's happening in and around our games as well as culturally, be taylor. Swift

I was kelsey news has been a pop cultural moment, leaned into in real time, as is their sport in entertainment, it we ve, seen incredible amount of positivity around this were whose it and there's gonna, come engineers also like. If again it's a tiny sliver of people want attention attacking taylor, swift, usually from the far right, and it was funny to see Sean hannity of all people going on his show unprompted with a rousing defence of taylor, swift, like all the guys, she's fantastic from love it there is a german amazon. I always said today we are all sean and the page six of the paper record this morning, yeah the new york post, john le Maire, points to war to wall, taylor, swift,

There are no other topics covered on the entire page, so it's a bit of a gag but every single item, every soul and six taylor swift related here you go this camera here. Every single item is taylor related come I can as this area. This shows that is not just the nfl every one right now. It is taylor. where's universe and we're just living. I think everybody winner, whose mad about that every citizen has the commission once again once and the new york post proves why it is morning Joe's a newspaper of record. Think about it like that at the moment when, if you took all the power of madonna Michael Jackson, and Bruce Springsteen their zenith and the mid nineteen teenage exact rolled all that up into one and then multiply it by ten right. You got taylor

flaming supernova. As always, some sort of song that blotted out the sun, it seems like she's, the queen of all media. The thing is this: the fingers to know Michael Steele as I said that, as I said a couple days ago, yet now we get at it russian bab discharge. She announced some two people get married and, and ladys of welcome go yelling even the out very unevenly they'll go by, and they are evenly yeah even going nowhere work. Let me tell you something: when you are the biggest music store on the planet, go up against the guy. Who regularly is seen by hundreds of millions of people as being the call for the superbowl champion two years in a row. even we re really. It works for now He was as we are aware, of how much work every day, and I like it.

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