Biden meets with Netanyahu; Gaza hospital blast fuels protests
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that happened in the past hour and a lot has happened in the past twenty four hours. Israeli prime minister, Benjamin
NEA who showing appreciation for president Biden visit amid the country's war with Hamas
mating happening
moments ago, kicking off an extremely busy day for the president and Israel, navigating a lot of moving parts and questions
morning, good morning and welcome to morning Joe, is wednesday
we're eighteenth with us, we have the whole.
way to early whitehouse, bear cheap political jars and le maire. And u S,
correspondent for bbc news. Caddy K, we'll dive right hand
than two weeks after Hamas terror attacks scent is
well into a new war. President Biden is in the country today to show support
four america's middle eastern ally, the president
meeting, as you saw with israeli prime minister benjamin net
I who, right now after all
living in tel Aviv about two hours ago. In brief remarks to reporters forego
behind closed doors, Netanyahu, thanked binding profusely for his steadfast support for Israel.
And then reaffirmed his commitment to israel safety, while also stressing the need to address the growth
humanitarian crisis unfolding in Gaza
the duration, their worsened last night when a deadly blasted gaza city hospital killed more than two hundred people
Rowan palestinian officials are both blaming each other for the violence which, spurred pro
Palestinian protests in parts of the west bank, lebanon, turkey and
last night that blast also forced changes
by these schedule, just
He was departing for Israel. Yesterday, the king of Jordan cancelled
and summit between himself byron and
palestinian president and the president of Egypt in a statement,
Jordan's foreign minister wrote, quota summit would not be able to stop,
The war now.
More now on the explosion. Now to got a Gaza hospital that killed hundreds of people
in Gaza city and the new.
As part of the territory placed under and evacuation,
we are by israel last week- Hamas, which launch
Terrorist attacks that set off the war immediately blamed israel for the.
israel, says, the explosion was caused by a mistake,
rocket launched by another terrorist group. No
as it islamic jihad prior to depart,
for israel. President Biden directed his national security team to continue gathering evidence about what exactly happened. Biding then addressed the
at long last. Shortly after arriving this morning, listen
I was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion.
hospital in Gaza yesterday and basic
what I've seen it appears.
was done by the other team, do
While people are there not sure,
are. We overcome a lot of fakes,
navigating a lot of things. Meanwhile, Israel's defence forces overnight shared video on social media, claiming it was proof that the explosion
was caused by a failed rocket launched by islamic jihad. Jonathan, let me
let's talk about what the white house
he's doing right now and how they responded to this hospital attack and how it impacted the
was there a moment where they thought, perhaps it wouldn't be wheels, and what do you make of how the
it is navigating this right in front of Benjamin Netanyahu not being completely shore exactly what happened.
Yeah. This explosion, of course, is now shadow in this entire trip changed its trajectory. Remarkably, the president was in the motorcade just
a few minutes from joint based andrews, yes reactor about to go wheels up. One word came from Jordan that this sum
cancel some at the white house. It really want to make it
part of this trip to talk of these arab leaders about the need to help with the situation in Gaza. Perhaps you accept refugees, create that court or with egypt to let people get out and suddenly it was off and white does aids, I speak to say that they never wavered ongoing with
trip, but certainly a trip that was sore fraught from the beginning, the president heading into a war zone real secure
concerns there. One was already so showed such support for
real? There was a sense that maybe he was being pushed this visit by the prime minister Netanyahu
we heard from him there, since touching down the president firmly
with Israel, but caution in june, it suddenly but suggesting that Israel's response needed to be cheap. Humanitarian mission and mine
to be not target civilians and there
relay the latest from intelligence. The idea that they do believe that a half hour was destroyed by a rocket fire from within Gaza as opposed to an israeli strike but costing
still under investigation, and we have seen a number of
familiar posts, video some proved that may not be true. A shark
In the couple hours, the israeli government is proceeding,
investigation, but it is complicated meagre because of course, they have no access to the site, which is in Gaza itself, but they are
We see it together with their with their team. Their expertise, and at least for now
U s president says we they do believe. This was not an israeli missile. The landed on that hospital
go to hell of even just a moment. But I want to focus on your contacts with the white house and in the national security community giants and le maire because to attack a low. But if you could explain to our viewers, what exactly was the purpose of that?
up beyond showing support for Israel what she could do from home. Secondly, is it too
by example ass, you see other arab countries pulling back right now. You know question here, first and foremost, as was to show support for israel, but it had a wider purpose in its to prevent this war from escalate,
there's says her present binding in Israel would deliver these messages to punish Netanyahu about the appropriateness
the israeli response, no doubt understands
leads to strike. Any knee will strike hard, but
so in a way that wouldn't further inflame the region. He also wants to deliver a message to these arab leaders to get them to step up with what situation in Gaza, and there was a real hope here that by trying to you're short of contain this now that it wouldn't
require further american involvement either. We've already seen these aircraft carrier groups go to the region. Troops
What on alert they may need to be deployed. The last thing this,
administration wants, as it focuses,
china as it focuses on ukraine. The law
the administration wants, is to its foreign policy, be dominated by the Middle EAST. Again facts part of this
into everything is more complicated now meagre because of that hospital, excellent,
I mean it's, it's hot, it's dangerous! It's complicated, Joe Biden has tried to achieve the impossible before, but this might be truly that the
ultimate and I'm not sure if this is the middle East- and this is in the middle of a hot wore his second trip to,
war zone in his presidency. Joining
now from tela bathers and vision, is foreign correspondent, Josh letterman and in washington, and busy news
white house, correspondent monica alba monica just
to build on le maire as point the purpose of the trip and
changed since
some countries are now pulling away from having an actual summit. It's been self
We would make that even as the president was heading to television,
overnight the schedule was constantly changing and that just signals to you how volatile a trip like this is, but because
the situation on the ground is so tat.
send the events are unfolding in real time. The white house has been very frank and they have wanted to be
clear to say things could still continue to change and they
wanted to share very many details about the schedule specifically because they are true
to add some things and again and
these moments? They have to be nimble as their continuing to assess intelligence, but I am told that in the early
two days after the october, seventh massacre white house, a fish,
we're already planning to see what could be feasible in terms of a trip to the region, but
wasn't clear until the prime minister continue
extend that invitation more formally, that the president would even been
to go and, according to my reporting there was a kind,
princess in the white house that there would have to be
window. If the president was going to do this before,
kind of a ground invasion by Israel was going to take place and that that was important, even though, why
officials have said they didn't put any kind of conditions on the trip there, not saint publicly. That in any of those conversation
what with israeli counterparts that they said. This is what you should
should not do if the president is going to come, but we know, of course, that's a critical piece and backdrop to all of this, and so the president is
going to be spending a couple of hours right now? He is with the prime minister, and they will
meeting with the israeli war cabinet to try to talk about what happens next, because that's the other important piece of this. What happens the day after a potential ground invasion or where
it goes from here. The? U s wants some answers on that, because they want to continue to protect
in lives, and they, of course, are also very invested in this group of honey
of americans who are in Gaza, who are trying to get out who so far have not been successfully able to do so. Micah
One of perhaps the most important components of this trip would have being Biden chance to meet with the egyptian president cc
in Jordan, of course, that's being cancelled as well. The americans would really like the egyptians to allow
in or even potentially allow refugees from Gaza out in.
Egypt and how's them in egypt temporarily. If that's now a part of the trip that can't take place, what would constitute successfully
What does Biden think he can get out of it?
that is only meeting with one side in this now increasingly broad conflict. I think success at this point. Caddy would look like
give president Biden can return from this short war zone trip with Israel
as the conflict with Gaza still limited to Hamas at not additional fronts in this war opening up with hezbollah in lebanon, which has promised an unprecedented day of rage against Israel and against president Biden's visit today, and whether he is able to really contain the fire that is raging across the arab world right now, because this is creating a real split screen moment. That is exactly the opposite of what the white house wanted
see at the same time that president Biden is hugging material,
who, on the tarmac meeting with his national security council, his war cabinet and publicly siding with Israel's version of events about what happened at the hospital last night in the Gaza strip. Are you have protests erupting around the air
world in Jordan. They are burning israeli flags in IRAN. They are chanting death to Israel and even in the west bank, not far from TEL Aviv, where president Biden o is too
you have palestinians hurling stones protesting against both the? U s and Israel. One of the key problems for president Biden right now is the fact that within just a couple hours of that strike,
last night that explosion at the hospital caddy. You had america's
General allies, like Jordan and like egypt, and also turkey, come out and publicly side with the past.
Inversion of events. They said this was an israeli strike in the hours since Israel has come out with what its military says is evidence indicating that in fact it was not an israeli strike bought a failed rocket by islamic jihad
guinea militant groups, and now you have president Biden backing that up, saying that, based in what he's seen, which is? Presumably? U S, intelligence, the? U s currently believes that it was not israel that it was the palestinian side, but it's going to be very difficult, may be impossible for those
arab leaders here in the broader region
like king Abdullah, Jordan, like president of Egypt, to walk back what they have our
we set about this strike, given the fact that their public's are now enraged by this, and they are seeing this public embrace of Israel by the president of the united states
making, as Netanyahu said, the first war time. U s presidential visit to Israel ever now, president Biden will continue doing what he can to try to tap down tensions, as he was on his way here.
Is able to speak by phone with king Abdullah of Jordan, and the white house says he should connect with cc of egypt on the way home, but I have no doubt about it. This is a precarious mission for president Biden to try to keep this situation from spiralling even further caddy,
An embassy news, foreign correspondent, Josh letter men and NBC news, whitehouse, correspondent, monica alba? Thank you both very much, then there's another pressing, intense layer to this escalating situation,
Hamas says it is ready to release all civilian hostages, foreign and israeli immediately. If is
stops bombing Gaza. That's according to a senior hammas official who says that release could happen within the hour as long as Israel meets its terms and in exchange for
israeli soldiers held captive, the hamas
shall said Israel must release all palestinians held in israeli jails.
As Hamas is believed, to hold at least
one hundred and ninety nine people in Gaza joining us
with new reporting on the hostage situation is and be seen news, justice and intelligence, correspondent, canned aloni it can Delaney And- and can I understand they theirs?
some video of some of the hostages where
Are they are they being held
hamas. What are you learning
good morning make it. We did see a proof of life, video of one hostage, twenty four hours or so ago. Look
simmonds and I in london, were able to speak to a number of people briefed on these tents negotiations that really
happening since day, one between the- u s, Israel and Hamas mediator
by the government of qatar, which styles itself as the switzerland of the middle east, and what we learned was that
that Hamas official told richard angle yesterday is confirmed by the EU
and the israeli and the qatar side that that Hamas had come around to the idea that they were going to
after release at least women and children. Civilian hostages, without going
aiming in exchange, because Israel has been steadfast that they're not going to trade
thing for the civilian hostages, but now
this morning that this hospital bombing really has changed. Everything has complicated.
I said situation as it complicates the entire picture here
Mass could not release these hostages were told now, even if they wanted to even if there was a deal at least for some time well,
actions, are running so high over this hospital bombing in
I also spoke to a couple of veterans of the: u s: hostage, recovery effort, including including christopher o leary, retire
b. I who, who until recently was running the hostage recovery cell and he told
This was the most complicated hostage situation in modern history, in that the nature of this
really makes a military rescue very remote. Here these hostages are spread out in the war zone, that is, Gaza, which is filled with warns of tunnels and bunkers any other company
factors. Hamas doesn't hold all the hostages. There's a group called
I'll. Send you an islamic jihad which has some of them and others
By what one official told me was opportunistic guy
citizens are grab them for their own reasons. Hamas is trying,
custody of all the hostages, but they don't have that yet. So it's a devilishly complicated,
situation, and the families of these people are in agony as they await the fates of their loved one maker.
and b c news, justice and intelligence, correspondent, KEN Delaney and thank you very
We have a lot of other news to get to including the fact that there is no speaker of the house. There's gonna be another.
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Alright we're just standing by as me as a lot a lot of moving parts. This morning we may be jumping in to a meeting between president Biden and the israeli war cabinet. If that happens, we'll jump in
let's bring in right now, roger
chair and the american presidency at vanderbilt university historian. John mitchum makes him first of all
just talk about overall president Biden trip into
is hot war zone. I mean truly so soon after the war has broken out. It is still raging.
with many questions and mysteries as to who has done what? What do you make of the trip? How does it stand in here?
trade, but also what are some of the severe channel
as he is pacing for the present,
now done, this twice he went to gave remember he went to ukraine he. This is a remarkable moment in the history, the american presidency, for a president to go this soon into this kind of climate. I think it suggests the
tat and intimate nature.
Of Biden sense of how important this is of the president's personal diplomacy,
he's been doing this a very long time- and he knows the players
understands that? Yes, there
a broad structure.
Forces that that shape the world, but
There are moments when a person
word. A tactic
Encounter
nudge, the arc of events in a good direction.
and one of the things of president has one of the most precious things in presidential capital. If you will is his time,
and the president is choosing to invest this time in what he understands to be written, speak for him.
but what I believe he thinks is a global struggle,
in fact decency and dignity, and order against
the elemental forces of chaos and terror. And, yes, there are
extraordinary complications and yes
of all,
as is stipulated, keep awake
as he has said and said, and that those powerful remit
last week. He believes that we have this
and with israel against terror. That doesn't mean we condone indiscriminate violence by any means,
but it does mean that in a complicated and difficult time, when a merry
an interest when the broad historical interests of
in the pure sense
human rights of self determined,
when those rights are under assault. You stand
with those who are most closely stand with you
so I'm just curious about the players in the dynamics involved. You know when, when president binding went to Keith, he was dead.
with woloda mirrors, the ukraine has its problems. There is no question
but would you consider as a landscape, to be a trusting partner? Let me add to that question here.
going to now to Israel he's there right now, we're about to watch him meet with Israel's war cabinet has met with.
You Netanyahu talk about the dynamics,
relationship is benjamin,
netanyahu a trusting partner? Given the fact that he is facing a lot of prison criticism in Israel right now for creating
many distractions that may have led to this, and I just
wonder how the president navigate,
that dynamic is
similar or is it a parallel or
There are some differences with Benjamin Netanyahu buried. There are different
cause. I think you've laid it out quite clearly, and I don't think anyone should believe that this is a like Mary poppins, where an american president flies into something and brings a meeting
in order to it
should be grown up.
about our expectations. I think that
it is vitally important. That does not mean
It is simple
it means that this is a perennial issue of
life and death, as we are seeing again and again and again and here,
An american president,
in doing this again, a very long time, both in the senate, as vice president, as president
every once in a while, you end up with an american president who extraordinary experience in these spheres. You know this. George
walker bush when they, when it came time to put together a glow
coalition to oppose,
Iraq's invasion of kuwait. He knew every one president,
And has a long time I been described as long time, but not entirely warm
asian ship with Benjamin Netanyahu, one of the things about history,
reality, I should say, which is just history as
unfolds is that you deal with
world, as you find it and president
clearly thinks that his being
air has a
your chance of producing a better result than if he stayed away
so we will find the other
will you have the later of george up then met
most of the summit pulling out and cancelling the most important part,
trip. One would argue as it pertains to the lives of potentially thousands of people and yet arab countries,
pull away. Biden goes in very Joe Biden, obviously, but it is the purpose to lead by example.
I think so I think it's to say over this.
And I don't know I'm not in the room, but it seems to me that
If he is, there
He is showing a level of can care and concern that, as we just said, is without precedent and
what are the ways politics works is here interlocutor has to believe
that you in fact share their interest and that you're
simply in it for yourself and
here's one of the things that can happen. President Biden
be able to look at the war cabinet will be able to look at better
yeah you and, as president Biden probably would say, hey man, I'm here now
work this out right. I promise you the word man is going to be used and
I don't mean to make make light of it, but this house
with franklin, roosevelt and Winston churchill right. It mattered that they were in the room together. It eight matter
to political beings that you pay the respect
you signal that you are in fact you understand where they are jane.
Baker, where the great secretaries of state in american history has. Indeed,
entire memoir was called the politics of diplomacy and his
this was you cannot conduct diplomacy if you,
do not understand that the people,
the other side are political beings?
and so you have this politician.
More than a half century standing in the american context, whose goal
in two
the most from one of the most fraught regions in the world. At a time.
when there are clear
issues to deal with an he's there and
he's, not law in a lordly way, sending in instructions from Washington he's there now and, as you say, it's very Biden ask its personal needs.
Hand, ahead, hand, ill and we'll see what happens will see what happens. Obviously, but again a president.
capital? Is this time the President care
about this. He thinks it's important and american interests, I believe it hope will be served.
Sir John, I suspect you're right about the presidential vocabulary that is going to be used, and we know that president Biden is going to deliver some messages here, perhaps sternly behind her closet, closed doors to prime minister Netanyahu, about what
happens next in this war, but to your point about how he's there he showing up
matters he's in the room, while he's not now
the room with the other side, because the arab world
down that summit and
You just said that this is one of the most fraught regions in the world with a long history of of sprawling widening conflict. Something the present Biden wants desperately to avoid. What's the risk, though, of this situation being inflame now, because of the backdrop of that hospital explosion, and because fair or not it looks like president binders picking so
It's all of this is risky
There's there's nothing. This is an afternoon
at the council on foreign relations, where you run through a powerpoint right
This is a serious time
but he's a serious matter and american policy
American interests are at stake. Lie
The human,
lives are at stake. Do I think it's optimal? That he's not,
the abbe other summit. Of course not, but you can pick your reality. That's it that's
fundamental point here is: is that
We have an american president,
who is serious about these issues, he's trying
best to see
If he can bend the arc of events,
Toward a better result and I'll take that
and I think that diplomacy is different.
If it were easy, we wouldn't collared diplomacy.
And so I think that we have to watch, and I think we have to hope and if you're implying that way, I think we have to pray for a,
and a resolution to what is
a mind
now mainly complicated historic
Go fraud, bloody and
in the pure. A sense of the word tragic unfolding story.
Historian, Jon Meacham. Thank you we'll be watching our president Biden's movements in Israel. We have meetings taking place right now, we're going to bring you this updates and also go live if they come to a podium and speak or let the cameras in also
sleigh, ongoing coverage on the plight of the hostages and the plight of civilians that are
in harm's way, also back here at home round to
in the latest battle for the speakers gabble with another vote set for life,
Today we will examine congressmen, Jim Jordan's pressure campaign to wear
in the house speaker's gavel. That's just ahead on morning, Joe
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and subscribe, are you willing to go toe to toe? With till we get a sphincter we've got to, we've got to have a speaker and it can't be some deal with the Democrats. I mean the american people
was that they elect republicans in a majority small majority. I get it, we got two hundred boats in the first validating that have even
more than we haven't got back in general right about what happened was gospel rockets is above process to a one
the conversations run, the can't be a deal with the Democrats. The american people don't want bipartisanship partisanship, no, no, no,
congressmen, Jim Jordan vowing, to continue his pursuit of the speakership, despite losing the first vote yesterday after twenty fella republicans voted against him. The next vote, a sketch
for eleven. I am this morning and joining us now. Senior right.
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show times the circus. Nbc news national affair is analysed, John harmon and special correspondent
vanity, fair and host of the fast politics. Podcast Mala John passed her latest pieces.
Title the geo b is burned
down the house and actually, let's read from your piece molly, we have it here. Yes, what's it
Its ginger Jordan loses his first round us. How speaker can we put molly's pisa thanks in your piece? You write the boy
it all down. Carcass has set itself once fire a hazard of playing with matches. Now,
area. Arsonists. Jim Jordan is running up. The geo, p media outrage machine to try and bully his fellow has republicans to vote for him, but the
along with being a pyromaniac, is that fire is exceedingly hard to control the
election? Denying Jordan? Unsurprisingly, got the endorsement of trump who questioned the health of
staves gullies the same day, he beat Jordan for the geo peace
bigger nomination and shortly before he withdrew from the race republicans, who are
put up as potential challengers are immediately attacked by pro trump accounts like elon musk, favorite, ad and
woke me. The thinking here is that
Jordan, his allies and supporters can do kind of a french revolution style. Stick to get him. The gavel can join
steam role, reluctant republicans into becoming speaker, could voting for a right wing bomb thrower,
Jordan, scare, off potential geo, p voters and swing districts and risk the house and twenty twenty four,
it's hard to see a jordan speakership, not leading to a more fox friendly stunts and impeachment hearings, and my guess is
publicans would be better off politically and twenty twenty four by not getting what they
want here, but then again,
pyromaniacs like to watch the world burn, mullay I'll. Just finish off your point,
by saying you know this is a really bad time not to have a speaker not that there is ever a good time, just completely self destruct
behavior and I'll I'll go go where joel
scholars, Republican seemed
love losing in the long run?
I also think this republican party has been so burn it all down right, the caucasus, the burnt it all down cock, as they were trying to prove that government doesn't work. But the problem is you,
in government
and so we see Jim Jordan desperately trying to whip these votes, and I think it's important remember like that
about speaker, is both to whip votes, and then it's also to raise money and help win more seats and twenty four,
Jim Jordan seems uniquely unqualified to do both these things. So if
say jordan worth to get it. What would he
to do in order to keep it. What's the pay back right because you would get it on sufferance he'd have to give something what what specifically what
have to give an how
would that affect the war. Eighteen republicans, who have been elected in buying in districts that Joe Biden, one.
well caddy, I mean look that for Jim Jordan, the concessions aren't really concessions to the to the right. I mean he's sort of already with those people, so the kinds of things that Mccarthy had to give up in order to placate the maga
guess are things that Jim Jordan once you get up willingly he's more in the business of, or indeed in that,
the having the need to try to placate
those in the centre because their worried about you now having a speaker who comes into the job pledging to shut down the government its.
you know it's as Mali suggests. I think she put a bunch of question marks behind things like could Jordan speakership
We to republicans losing control the house. I think you don't put a question mark their say more, something like a ginger.
bigger would. Obviously,
We jeopardize the seats of every democrat Republican, whose in a vulnerable sea every region
republican. Who is one in abiden district of the budget
Up here in new york state that gave control
of the house to republicans
twenty two they're all terrified about the notion of egypt, Jordan, speakership and there are
followed, even people afraid of god is to be boy, can buck? Who
Our very conservative, but look at jordan as politically toxic in an almost certain to guarantee democrats take back control the chamber in twenty two. So you know it's the question now,
is this. How gives you almost sympathy for pity for cattle?
Fourthly, a kind of makes you realize just how difficult, because
This position was, he was the problem
we will probably a party is the republican party. It said there. The reality is that you noticed
together. This coalition talk to hold the gavel,
with this narrow majority require somehow momentum as a possible straddle and mccarthy,
able to maintain a for a few months? I dont know that Jim Jordan, what we ve been able to maintain a much longer if he somehow get
I'm not sure anybody could. This is the president in
internal conflict in politics. This party, that is very very hard to figure,
with this narrow majority. There is a way
It's started making the around yesterday that showed a very kind of looking Jim
gordon sitting in the house chamber with Kevin. Carthage arose behind and laughing his head off,
drucker usually to tourism that you don't bring votes the floor? If you can't win well, Jordan did that yesterday he lost eleven. I am is gradually the next one with count suggests he's not there and he's not that close so we'll see if he brings about the floor, will see if he does a mccarthy style, multiple votes.
But the chatter. Among republicans, if we were to do that, he probably starts bleeding support. So give us your sense.
to who might step into the breach, but also just europe.
Also of republican party. The continues to fight and eat itself
right. So you know my sources tell me that that Jim Jim
is likely to lose members on the second ballot that he had on the first, even though some who voted against them on the first ballot of announced, they will be with him on the second ballot, so I don't
that he's in any better better position this morning, then he was yesterday and its clear that he called off the six p m vote yesterday eastern time, because
he didn't have the votes and you lose a second ballot, and I think this thing is all but dead, but he's been in.
courage by Kevin, mccarthy, tubes
I'll get head pusher
persevere and
Thinking about the former speaker is that Jim Jordan can get there just like he did. I don't think the conference is. Is it in in a place,
that any longer. So, I think we're already seen discussions about
empowering path
look Henry the north carolina congressmen, who is now the speaker protests to have all
the powers, at least on the floor of the house of representatives that have than an actual speaker of the house, has
the chamber can get banned, work and- and
its job right now. I don't think this is a conference that knows where to
for a speaker- because they are so divided, there is so much ill will and other key dynamic here guys. Is that
if you don't normally it's the pragmatic,
conservatives in the conference. There really aren't that many moderates, it's really a useless term. Its people
magic conservatives who want to govern and understand that and divided government. You have
no choice but to cut deals with Democrats that they also get to claim victory for in order to do your job,
and normally they would throw up their hands and say, even though
it's a minority of our conference that wants to head in this direction. It looks like
have no other choice, but to do it, even though we don't want to- and I think after going through what they did
mccarthy after scene,
members of their own conference, ignore their own conference rules and ignore the results of a conference election last weekend. Steve's grace was elevator
I think, a lot of them
finally had enough and said we are not going to be patsy's any more and that this is the viewpoint, and so this goes,
deeper than Jim Jordan wouldn't be good for you know defend.
And growing majority or Jim Jordan may want to shut the government down I've policy disagreements with him. I think this is me.
in the case of I'm tired of being pushed around
tire now nor any of our conference ignoring our own rules in so now.
I'm gonna play the same game of hardball that they are so what could be the aim?
Some of that jonah? How hum and what are you watching? For because I mean it really looking like a crazy minority, small group of people have total control over the party, sound
very trompe and at the same time there could be political ramifications which we discussed, and can we just talk about who jim
Warden is what he stands.
or he's an election denier. Everything pretend
two january six. Does it truly benefit the report.
Begins to elect him as speaker, or is there
another way forward, I mean is in congress.
about making deals, isn't that what they do
What a quaint notion
global governance. I don't know what what what generation
here too those views. I can only recall, I mean look at the item. You know
David just said, I think you know there are now these kind of primal forces in plants not even about rational calculation anymore. From what you can see. I owe you
Jim Jordan, but I think she is
increasingly looking like yesterday's news? If you busy brings this
to the floor at all which seems determined to, but if he does bring them home to the floor,
and it does go down
it- I dont- think that he has the Mccarthy report
We actually has the mccartin mccarthy's relentless
General desiring to be speaker is probably unwilling to make any deal to get it
the speakership, but but there is a there's a week
Be done with jordan is a prospect of speaker.
a few hours here today and then there is this MC henry possibility: amali here's one of them.
I wonder
you raised in your com is the idea that what
is that among the many across
the pressures that are on theirs. Republicans right now is obviously the situation. Israel, where
we need to have a functional. Has representatives means that we heard Joe Biden this?
I think there's some discussion of the reporting that suggest Biden's getting comfortable with one hundred billion dollar aid package for Israel and and and and ukraine the there is going to be among other forces here there is there.
The donor class, which desperately wants to be able to be,
bored at least four for israel aid and in many cases for ukraine it is always the houses is paralyzed like this. That can't happen, and I can't help but think that
hearted, what's going on here, is not about politics or about
about governance, but is merely about being able to make sure the republican donor base doesn't finally just throw up, say we're done with you pete
If you can't get it together and help Israel in particular yeah? I think that the Republican, a publican
huge concern, and I also think it is worth remembering that Jim Jordan is not the right person to make a case that the republican party has gone so far right. It is no longer electable and swing districts right, you're gonna have that
I shot being a sort of road, show that we are elected ball. It seems very on
equally, so I'd using that's right. I also think it's not.
It's really worth thinking about how alienated the republican donor bases the money they're giving tromp. That worried is going to us
go bells. You know
I think Nicky Hayley has become this last minute, how Mary, but I think, they're pretty alienated this point. Sedately joker. Let's talk about Israel,
and twenty four obviously donald trump received a lot of
racism for his rebuke of Benjamin
yahoo and his praise of hezbollah, which remains stunning, sentenced to say
yeah, you ve noticed I've even following this. That this is a rare
where some of his republican rivals or taken up today to take a swipe at trumped, really criticise how he's handled this. Give us your sense if this
matters at all. Now or perhaps is it something that could take a toll that will pay off?
next year, the general election.
Yeah it's hard to say I did look. The trump hasn't
three of us. We need to look at this and to end in two frames right in a republican primary. I don't really think this hurt him. Trump has a long history.
Of saying things that are heterodox to most republicans too, you know he has a history of lashing out in criticising policy or individuals that republicans hold dear but
is it really pay for it? I think it was smart for his primary opponents to jump on him for his his knees. Petty
comments regarding Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel as we're late.
the crisis that they are in. It's not that
thing you say to a friend about a friend at a moment like this? Even if you have concerns you communicate them privately
but voters have given donald trump republican borders were
birth? To do that
things and they tend not to punish him and one thing what one thing that
He has in his back pocket in regard to something like this is that he was president for four years and he had is israel policy? What
was good. It was good for israel
I and people that are concerned about.
israel in the united states, even people that didn't vote for donald trump acknowledge often that,
He was a rather pro israel, president in was good for Israel and good for the region. Having negotiated abraham accords.
and had Israel's back through a number of other issues, so I dont think this ends up hurting him at the end of the day, in a republican primary, not one bit and
election especial
against unencumbered democrat now Joe Biden, who is steadfastly with Israel, even in the face of the expected critics
from our arab allies in the region? Who has stuck with the
which states so far. Who was about to propose. We met
of military aid package was already said. He understands that Israel really needs to decapitate Hamas,
he's going to be there with them. It's it's
a bad contrast for him as a matter of domestic political.
foreign policy as well,
to see how plays out there
drug or and knowledge on past. Thank you both mild molly. What what will you be looking for today? I mean
When a watch this, I think that we could see this compromise speakership, which would be ultimately a real sort of wind for democracy and bi partisanship there. Let's hope stella.
We continue to monitor the president's busy schedule in Israel,
we'll bring you knew updates as they haven't we're gonna live report. In just a moment, plus republican present
your candidate. Chris Christie is our guest next time,
morning jobless coming right back.
more nearest report from around the world. Russia is reportedly suffering heavy losses on the battlefield were learning. Russian troops launched a large scale assault last week on the small eastern city in ukraine, and it didn't go well. You
in military said it destroyed dozens of russian tanks and other armoured vehicles and killed. Hundreds of russian
while losing a little territory, are ukrainian spokesman said
The russian assault was every bit as disastrous as the one, in fact,
Meanwhile, ukraine, also
Two major strike on russian airfields. Thanks to the united states, which supply
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far the missiles were able to hit nine russian helicopters and air defence system
and ammunition, warehouses and eastern ukraine. Let's go live
israel, where president Biden is meeting with the israeli war cabinet right now,
I saw you
the president you're meeting with our united war cabinet
united and resolved to leave-
wrote a victory,
We different kind of war.
because Hamas us is a different kind of enemy.
While Israel seeks to minimize civilian casualties, come our seeks to maximize civilian casualties
Hamas wants to kill, as many israelis is possible
and has no regard whatsoever to palestinian lives every day they perpetrate a double war,
targeting our civilians, while
behind their citizens
embedding themselves in the civilian population.
And using them as human shields
seeing the cost of this. This
Will double walker,
against humanity from us
for paternity in the last eleven days, as is
legitimately, targets torres civilians,
fortunately armed
Hamas is responsible and should be held accountable
for all civilian casualties we saw
costs of this terrible war crime. Yesterday, when a rocket fire,
palestinian terrorists. This fired
rather than the palestinian hospital,
I world was rightfully outraged, but this outrage
record, not in israel, but at the terrorists. As we proceed in this war, Israel will do everything it can to keep civilians
of harm's way. We have asked them and will continue to ask them to move to safer areas, will continue to work with you, MR president, to ensure that the minimum requirements
that and will continue to work together to get hostages out
Mr president, the road to victory will be long and hard, but united in purpose and with it
sense of justice and the break
the spirit of our soldiers and our people. Israel will prevail. Thank you.
if the president vacuum sperm industry,
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continued. Israel's back as you work to defend your people
Four continue to work with you and partners across the region to remit.
a tragedy
innocent civilians.
five years ago.
You're founders, declared that this nation would be one based cold.
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It's stay stands with you and the fence
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We are watching
was too short statements by prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu and president Joe Biden in front of the israeli war cabinet, which
meeting right now live cameras are allowed in. I am not sure if reporters are giving questions, but if they start to enter anything will go back very interests.
and Netanyahu made very, very strong,
minutes about the rockets fired by a pair,
steady and terrorist which miss fired, hitting the hospital. That was the right
and events of the past twenty four hours where they hospital in Gaza that up to three hundred possibly more, are dead. He talked about
Moss Netanyahu dead, wanted to kill israelis with no regard to any lives and committing a double war crime because he says that they go after
anybody and everybody with no regard to life. Again you civilians as human shields, and then president Biden spoke basically said
the united states stands with Israel in its pursuit for freedom, justice and peace, and it was a very quick statement. Caddy k. What do you make of it?
yeah- it was a quick statement. Just now is also a quick statement earlier, but gosh this is tight, wrote diplomacy for Joe Biden. Trying to you know, spread a lot of needles here when he made his column.
about the attack on the hospital yesterday, he said you know it sounded
the americans tend to agree.
the israeli position that this was not cause rise. Israel, but was caused by the other team, is Joe Biden described it, but then
went on to say, but a lot of other people have question
But I think that is the key
men meant and Joe Biden assessment, because whatever is the truth and there,
have to be some kind of investigation into what happened in that hospital. It said it's a turning point in this
conflict and has incited violet
in arab capitals right around the Middle EAST. That makes this and even more
harry a situation and, and Joe Biden is
seeing one side, those images of Joe Biden,
hugging, Benjamin Netanyahu will be pet played in arab capitals. It is so so unfortunate that he was not able to meet with
c c from Egypt with the jordanian king with Mahmoud Abbas, because I think that would have put America too much
asia physician to try to play some sort of negotiating role, so
We can show those pictures from the war cabinet meeting again, but all of these pictures, or from overnight, where president Biden of course came to
well, not just to meet with benjamin
yahoo and show support for israelis, but also to me,
with other arab nations and that summit after the hospital bombing was called
so now you have president binding and again meeting with nothing
and his war cabinet butts.
ending alone in the middle of this.
That is possibly raging across the middle east
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