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When one passes away, you re lose something its physical and mental. At real party dies. What have you learned about life from your mother and alone? life is self. For my mother, you know ba one of eleven children see the sacrifice that she gave to us. Therefore, give. Life is slowly the greatest lesson of life. The day that suit me as our vote, those words was coming up. Young with arrogance confidence, knowledge and myself. Probably the scientists we was toward due to supreme b,

in order to be the beer you gonna be supreme. Amongst other demons. Understand them more now than I did then, because dinner with so little yoda were caught, devolved, basically from the greek language, as they say in it, there was no strength and beauty air. We have there, but the power to control life and death is sunday. Dad, you would assume is a guy trade. So now, here you are santa your guy, and you read in the bible, argius is brought back. Lazarus now is your turn. To do so. my mother was land air and hospital bed and air was gone.

coming out of her lungs and hence our lungs worth my power to bring about life can truly be god. a powerless debt or god is not the definition that we need to use to describe it, because it's a translation of wisdom straight and beauty, so you'd be dead. So imagine. Your question with my mother tells me about life alone. That day or physical pass in doha. Can I mean there's a physical me: do you think about her? You miss her. Of course Keep my mother my prayer every day and data played a the most beyond giving. Thanks is I pray that her name is on it and remembered by my family. I dunno

What's gonna, remember right, even of Why my movie love these wants a name the school in a movie about my mother. Does that leave us? well in physical space. Exactly but yeah painful, paying my mother's passing is undisputed. only too happy to a person day now and then it won't describe it either. Only the people that lost their mother. They go look at each other and he got this nod. You know what I mean But one other thing happened to me. Was the joy of life hit me differently. And I think I was the village of my own mortality phocis, my anymore toddy, it's a big big day, we'll get this expound. but there was a joy to overcame me because I was kind of free

It was certainly no illusion about the end. Mortality or my physical be voted, the mortality or my physical being- and I was like okay wow- understand. those the first or the hardest realisation. You ve experienced that your mortal here that yeah and ass, a model and do what you are looking at here physically. I won't say my soul is mortal yes m water, because at the end of the day,. just like other sit here and others s home, please Please, please, by James blah, bizarre his brow, it's not gonna come in here and do that so in some sense surprised to hear in another says no itself. It's always here well those three year by using it

through you buy you listening to it celebrating and the hopeless that the human species continues to celebrate the great minds in the gray creations of the past. Our address today equation, when I say, is immoral. I don't think the nuts is only because somebody says it is like wise words Fire right now is in the air you just gotta sparked yeah. So, as always, there are you afraid of death, now not afraid to die day. I am now I'm not trying to see it in a lump sum that wasn't that nowhere near me, I because, on always life my life is living You know, I read a lot texas people body know about me in. I love one of the great today embody dogma, and there was a

Did they really wanted to books of hers, one of the teachers affairs in question? Somebody axiom similar question: are you? Are you scared What what are you gonna be after you die in his answer? Was I don't know he had asked everything It means I gotta notice all he doesn't know it out so here, because I haven't I yet with the uncertainty to some people's terrify, not now wait. What's on the other side of the door I made, especially when you yeah, you know, as a kid fear terminated- You know you know I was ass. He watched in horror movies You then all types supernatural days that could I can happen, I thought I saw us things were an arm.

You know what I was being projected from our motto. Whether was the visible to me. I don't know why, but life is beautiful and we have it and we should use it all away to the latter job realizing. The mortality, the gift mother gave to you is realising the immortal and in so doing, help you realize that life is beautiful? On this topic, quincy jones. I read said too, to being you when it rains get wet? What are these words mean to you? What, were crazy with sand at that time was you know, I think I was more conservative like as a person and leg you know, but have money one won't. It me any data conall wanted. Ah I party could ahead had in on.

and he was essentially raised, get wet enjoyed. Asthma is raining on you and I'm the one who put up don't put up the umbrella. Don't go back in the house, get wet experienced the moment and enjoy it, if I don't take total heat to him at a time? A couple of years later took some heat by that time. I dare take heed and, and when I took heed, I think that I may have misinterpreted by looking at his example of getting wet vs my example of getting away proud to tell you right now, I'm getting wet now my way in part thanks to your mother, but overall you just learning. Appreciate the rain just like those the experience of every yet our shared as what you can do. This is seen to be a very open conversation and I haven't had conversations w.

What my mother did in part to my wife on these. My wife is my second wife, but I met her after my mother passed as she was just a friend. You know some girls are murdered because she was beautiful and actually build the fresh water. Ah, but a few years later, when the relationship became like you know, this is the only my wonder, ass they do and when I in the middle of my of course, and I was like you know, do I wonder why You know me and my wife would have already found we separated and do our one. Why and I didn't one while a little bit but not too well you know I still am hip hop gas,

I read you not? A party is heading for the funny daggers that my wife now animists bologna, my colleague says she reminds me of your mother. He knew mama way before I do my mother and he sought at an end and we ended up daddy, got engaged and then her mother passes. So now is a total understanding understand of every day and we actually help build each other back up soon. So what I had to do, my mother for the awareness my wife for in that awareness to actual actual alsatian light of atoms phil, How could I be talking to you right now and talk about what should I do these days? If it wasn't for security in

peace and harmony that I was able to gain and home and like you say, you now show that look of having both lost here, your mom. What are you learn from Quincy's about music about business about life. Quasi Jones is a great mind, great addis. You know a treasure and all reality. He seen it form when it was You can't walk and ass, he can in the same places he played his music art to own and places big enough, What a wonderful life you know he's a table he's been one hour will do, but you gotta, you got a lifetime of information and I was blessed has been most while was written in days when a man you know, a pursuant to the tower where we came across each other, he was always,

it is share the knowledge, like that's another thing. Apart from that angle, especially hopefully I'll pick. That up is that he's. He is always willing to share share with his experience his knowledge, May I thank you in his share. It is home to the right person. Filled it that's what they need to get back on their feet. He's a very beautiful now suggests the kindness, the goodness of the man, as does that thing that really rough on you made the minimal in quincy jones, also in his fifties as a producer produced but the greatest animals of war time and one of the greatest selling albums what announces great critically, economically great and. we may donkeys he did at the age. I am right now, so am I have a great year. Come have

every time a well so now you gotta tell the world greatness. Is you get this? you a great necessity. You know what is happening, How much do I owe you after you have a few people who work with who are fascinating, like yourself could in turn tina you work with him. Once a me ass, you describe him with one word. You said encyclopedia. What have you from the guy about filming in about life again, a very generous man. What is knowledge for me? He said it. I think, in a way that was you league in a sense of no at a point in time. You know it was stupid. But I like you, know, I'm not going to describe and watch movies and- and this happened conversations about art and about life. You know me, saw, allowed the lack of the city he knows, especially when it comes to

neither cinematic in my life. I guess it the godfather doubtfully at the gown I humbly ask them to middle me, which is a very humbly. Dana do come for my neighborhood kaufmann, who I am come from, I was already a multi platinum, Addis. You know what that may was a year. It was past the year, two thousand already so that two thousand wants without and to that I asked him to me for me, so I was declared, but a humble myself, because saw him a craft of brain power. to me resonated with me, but I was the patent and I was a novi sad it out, because with china make movies and my music I wanna make videos, and here was a man who was a man. Other encyclopedia of it as well, and I

Film, history, film, history from weathers the actor the director, the cinematographer yeah even the costume designer he may know fit these sixty move. You made on a fifty greatest costume designers in his memory, may disguise brain body of Brigham memory. I'd love to be a fly on that conversation them and full movies, most ngos, we actually started. I think we we started our relationship. China, outdo each other knowledge wiser why the movie? Now Once again I have asked the council movie. Knowledge was, and I think that cat was. in other category. I wouldn't have had a chance were at least in that category there I was pretty hold on my weight for one. You know what I'll be honest and say that I may have said a few heated se, but Quentin is older than me, so he could go back farther yeah. He could go back to seven

into what I didn't see one yet in on a yeah where we are, he said, mastered the flying guillotine that I got a chance to the? U commentator: today, I shall see the screening of he said, does one of his ferrets for you. The thirty six chamber of shaolin or the master killer is your favorite best best ever. Would you say that the greatest kung fu movie ever it def, is hard to say, greece have away because somebody may make another one in it: the peasant all phase of life, but our put that for roma? To do some? I had a council movies. That's that's! A beautiful entry. he took one knowledge. You talk about wisdom. What what kind of? Wisdom. Do you draw from council movies the you know what the marshal are itself and the movies is endless wisdom to be joy in our joy

As roared in a way, you know that occur decipher it em all life, so first is in the movie master each other. Ah, he basically when he does come fully. Does a body a stock or the hunger tat leap in the dark The of the movie is actually a hunger expert. Who has a lineage the traces all about the shannon, simple and its direct always wanted to keep his movies per the break? Hunger to the wars like you want to show the world this lineage it? In fact, you just said master the flying, gonna tunas, quitting

favorite movie, and we met and had thirty six sandwiches, my favorite movie, but the accent director of massa flying quality is the director of thirty sixteen with a salad and some of the things that's happening in massa that the flow of the flying guillotine is really the infant stage. Of what this action directors, gonna alone and they use laid all in his movies. So that's the beauty of it is almost like you know, quaintest, see in home in his generation, so quaint may have been a say aids I was watching movies did when he becomes a director, Ahmad quit his age, and I see it is work, so some six symbiotic relationship dear and out in this question by saying hunger deals with the five animal technique, the tiger the crane.

I, the leopard, the snake and a dragon. Those are the five as the fire pattern. Some people go semicircle twelve, but it's a stick to the fire pattern. Fish. How do you a man, immolate attire and you see a tiger s face he curls before he spoke How does a man Emily a snake it doesn't have to be only in the com for more this is the ideology of the snake is in there the agility other cry at any moment, so tat part and a person is not going to work as they will say, a level fifthly tiger poor, so sometime you may have the pope and with the cranes beak

so having your mind able to adapt the instinct of the animal when you are being attacked or when you are being the aggressor, that's something that you don't need a form for thus the mentality so kung fu work. I said it for me endlessly, because at first I was china, not ah homer, like I can't really hit you, daddy, I really hope the southern bank of my hand a thousand times on some bricks and made it so calices or muscles are so strong, but the idea that, if near you is to get into a fight and I'm gonna tiger up on you and take their in ceiling and prance when I'm a plants or slot fly away like the stalk like up is this destiny? Town is much more than that technical moves as much deeper

Yeah, it's interesting to me the way I see the kung fu movies. As I am a I love, martial arts, all martial arts and uncompetitive ones too, like the actual competitions that's on it just seems. Come for movies, go much deeper than just like the techniques they slot may. If you see it right, even was the great a fight. Finally selina this interesting cause. He was: what's happened, a guy you know and away. He gave him and you know it had to be. In all this fairy godmother is unlike mixture of crane and now what our ill. With this letter, we Secondly, and I love that when people are become artists in the cage her day, that's much bigger than just like winning much bigger than particular techniques is just are especially the high. Of a competition where millions of people are watching with its present within it.

yes, yes, that's art under pressure is even more beautiful art if you look at somebody's vice and you wonder like why somebody wins and lose at a time that the last time a guy can win because he could deal with the press when other guy he could have beat them. There was somewhere else, but not in this arena, so you're a scholar of history. Cutting hip hop history. You ve listened to. So many of you interviews. You spoken brilliantly about some of the big figures in in hip hop history. Two pod biggie gnaws many others. maybe a saga to and biggie what made them special in the history of music. That's a good question. Saw I from the authority to answer it, but I'll just speak. My piece on it in

maybe I'll just add one- could I'm sure a lot of people. S pay a lot of time with them that we speak on it. But just as Fellow addis dig not only was beyond your dog louis. I think he had a voice. There was really immaculate. in a sense that some wrappers get on top of music, and you gotta get used to them when you gotta fight. You know you got a vibe with them, but he make a racket sounds like a record immediately. If you go back and listen to his music, you could take his voice and pretty or anything and for some reason, It sounds like a racket. In I mean just like the raw voice of the man, you didn't he just wasn't, do arise and saw the record here, but if you put a beat take his voice had put on any beat

It is, as has a voice its immaculate enough. So local skills in order was great and you got it. They was again he's doing all this he's? Not even twenty five years old here yeah, then you go to a park, was again immaculate voice, but what part had, I think, was a way of turton us all of eye motions. And especially on my part, had the power to refuse your emotional door like Brenda, has a baby dear mamma, but then he had the power to arouse you're the rebel. When you you know, and those two days astley is, he was probably more dangerous

I didn't big nor the toys. Biagi may not always be ideal. We could party with him to this day. We still were part was probably going to appoint. You know he was more going into the malcolm x for days on end and a society fears there. we ass a he was really good at communicating, love and, and- and add starting revolutions here and as dangerous and they communicated love, but he wasn't style level. While it's it's interesting to think about what the world would be like. still with us, but it's the way the world hendricks one of those guys just go to two says as a

I notice now you asked me earlier: am I scared of death? And I asked you know not. Scared of death will not try to see it though he may have his leg. That was the block of death. is liable to be really going right there right now, I'm some making a level right turn. You know me There was mandatory for some greater. This greater good is like a gonna. Try to In an a, but you can still happen thus the meditation on death part where you could die at the end of today or you could die or debt will die in and def. I think it's two different things personally the process

you know, death or just yeah, I mean you could die like Ziggy die every day. You could die and not be yourself inanely, which is crazy, but to get to a point of no return in an as a whole. Another chamber I mean there's some sense in which an rather than producer becomes somebody else completely. When you make a film, because somebody s completely when you're not playing chess becomes completely, something different when you out do kung fu are washed council when your family man of those little debts when you transition one place to another. So it's not like you, one being here, your many things I was just got now. It is clear that is our life, as both outside of EU

and any be anew. Who is the greatest wrapper from a lyrics like a wordsmith perspective in him, history or some of the greatest, maybe some candidates whose name a few, We're going to have to stop and walk him. You know you can either pick who'd you have in there Yanni had gone back even at you will have to pick up with those brothers first marathon, a good technical matter start were grandmaster cas You know who you my night, you never heard of in our But you may have sundays, those who everytime you say so the hare wrappers delight, because I said I was yet a copy. It is they copy. It is urgently needed, is well boy baby, but our neighbour a couple more I've gotta put knives in I gotta. nobody chessboard in front of us and one of the greatest says, plays

the youngest grandmaster you know about it before a dank castle. was, and why is it? Why? Because I she's my office as american wanna greatest american says play susan polka may have tied his ragged as the youngest grandmaster cheesy, unless fema webmaster day to date, but. He was a master. What fourteen the sunlight there so now to me, I'm that noise, when he was thirty day, was already a master loses it takes about. He has become a mass of illnesses so, by the time the world whole booty. Most of us, activity is a weapon innocent already. So that's why you, u medicine, masterly level shows it was already a master when ass the master, but just with twenty one has a sphere taking nazism.

the mozart, a wrap just lobby Visser lobby efficient, is born some somethin animal, maybe those early years, just is, he is or is not just good at the lyrics. He's also goes deep with it. Just like you so he's like. There's there's depth, it's not just star like mastery of the war, the words smithing? It's just the message. You actually get a sense of loss for mace yeah. It was more phrase. That's the whole dig of energy? How do we couldn't dense oughta energy into death so that it can feel that he's the only one and ass honest How does that- and he was doing it at thirteen- you know, like some other, not five years for five years old and noise.

So I was always bullied all my confidence of what I was doing bored. I was like this kid is on. He fits a fitting. I gotta step up my game, it will turn I'd say that we got automatic from you or what? the best, the most memorable lyrics. If ever written for last question. For me, the stuff stand out It stuff you really proud of their was like important a career gear. me? I think I did a sancho son son shower of it we put on we'll take forever double city, but only under international version, but anybody could go, get those louis invite those nowadays down you. This is per day in your pocket, and nor should it it s, not least by twenty five percent of your life problems.

Well, there's a good one sunshine! Weird! We talk about religion and god that's that's good tomorrow. I think it's on a diagram at your guy you're on the son. A diagram was the traveller from an air the answer to our questions, yet again by god, yeah the spark of all suggestions of righteousness. The pathway to the road of profound and who gives you all and never ask more of you, the faithful companion. It's everywhere with you before them one of of the pre historical, historical he's. All in all you searching for the oracle or godiva, and this is as you this is so good. A mission impossible is purely philosophical, beacon call on your bed when you're lying in the hospital you woke following a debate. I had a view about scientists friend. Well, my wife's best friend, Rebecca

now it aside, they both cited above, are scientists and see my doctor know I was at last names, but no and rebecca united, don't exactly how best friend come over And me, and now we go through the longest debates a size and unless we just go with web rigour go by day when it- and you know before he had a chow, he was more adamant and. You know, there's you know, I don't believe in god, in an a at the chow, he still kept his name, but I just hit him with a question. If you was about to die, because now you gotta get out of here, don't you think I might as well as their views about the die, you. Don't you want to make their core at their core?

an economy aspire malaria because it was like you who you gonna, and I just want to say our voice, so you miss in those days one of my favorite louis. But that's part two to cite shower was the people to censure. So if you gotta get it, you have to check out some shower star. Softwood trouble follows a wicked my twenty twenty vision of the prism of life, but still because you lack the inner, so every seneca end up in the ever last, in winter, of hellfire, with doors splinters prick your eye out, you cry out your woes fly out. You ve made on hoed suffering internal. An external along with the wicked paternal generals colonels land of term. nuclear he's their bows. You formally a permanently upon the journey.

Do the journal or the book of life, but those who took a life without justice will become just ice. It's been taught your words, enemy could harm you as much as you are all wicked thoughts, but people or be not listen. What so they father says post. Sadly, all universal court, so that as long as likely to repay your that is about life. That's character, integrity, how to be how to in this world, and then it connects the god who is god to you? I'm glad you asked that question because I actually he madame because distinguishable separation. Here, alright, And its funding could I heard recently. I a rabbi was

the bay and with this historian, doktor Ben cabinets doktor by name, and it was the bacon and then a debate day started going back to the etymology. They went way back, John antiquity, could they was debating beating it was you know? Sometimes there was going deep and fully with firefox to Canada foes road of of god, and it was when they pronounced it on this particular debate was other and he said but I ve got a levy on I've already agreed and my heart, my life, that the father this universe, proper name, is alive.

When, of course, in a log at all. You know- and I know tat day, god is to say, is that I think a log is both to god. In fact, if you take the word Allah a out eight and you take it, do no more hours. Your numbers, the number a being let it not be a one albion throughout if you added or love tourism, lois not at last denominator. You gonna get the number seven and the number seventy vague you right back to that letter g, so law, boys god, but god don't born a law. How does how does that guy? How does allow connect to the oracle you're you're going to be calling for when you lay in the hospital wow, I will send inevitably vote was that we are looking for the article

looking for somebody else is something the helpless that nobody could really help. You add ended a day. You know there. We speak on on sonata we, gonna, wanna, say speaking on religion, but with speaking on a way of life and a way of dagon and I've read many books of course course: accuracy. There's no book dead man book tat is the most strongest book ever read is actually to hold a stronger to meet in Montana. I've. Always I read a stronger than quantum physics, which I read a stronger than of a gaiters. Is this an end? I read once a british scholar set as the most stupid his book ever written and it doesn't make sense.

So as ours assay, why he says that they're not going to understand exactly why he said that as well. Why is that? Because the the structure of the words august is peculiar An army, but it's almost like how some people songs, you don't really know, exists It would they say until years later, yeah yeah have? Would euro gonna think it talked about how a joke of dave if you like, time after years of this kind, like the koran, I don't believe that we are human beings can up awesome. I understand anything as big as these ideas. So did you think that. Like our, u humble in the face of just the in the immensity of it, to be honest, yes, I'm humble in the face of the bbc.

What did happen outwards funny the army, the omnipotence? in essence, the magna too. I'm home with him in the face of an affair of Allah, the problem of debt we may have had, was that I wasn't humbled in the face of car because assisted definable day and that's I think a lot of us- and I said I, you know- I know We say, god we're trying to sail off, like people was saying that, but the atty not saying the same day, because you actually put in something beside an end, as we reason why you can have gold, as many gods The vinyl bunch it'll vary, but you're not gonna, find that there's no binding asylum law is one cell I know it's a whole day would that's my heart is: is there I'm humbled by it? I'm a peace. Would it ah and a dozen

nothin or the murray anything for myself. That's the beauty of it is that it. It's not inform me from behold, so, if I say, if some I welcome your piece got, I Because they telling me that I am a man of war is not a man of strength, I'm a man of beauty or some attribute it so the water heater gaza wrap this wisdom led astray, There is believed it will take that so tat is one of the greatest musical artistic philosophical groups. Ever less look hundreds of years from now, when humans are robots are alien to whatever thus left. Here they look back. What do you Hope they remember Boateng what he hoped. The legacy is well well,

you was thousand years or hopefully it'll- give give it at or you would have as gonna happen. But I think that my philosophy on it is that we are gonna. They tend to advance anger tee to a vast days or hours, but He has become an estate. Why mean there is I bring up sort of tang in that context than this is a special moment in human history. It's like one hundred years and we've created all of this music. Just if you think of all the richness of music that has been over a hundred years, as I it's not obvious to me that that's not going to stop like there's a flourishing here so It's funny cause. I could see where the the book of human history is written a chapter on this period of time. I am one of the things we did well as like all the technological innovation with lake with right. Gets in with the internet, but then there is also the

musical innovation and film innovation by just so much aren't is being created and who takes a huge part of that? wonder what like, if there's a few sentences written about woody day. The makes me one I remember our would hope. People were, the matter in a hundred years? I aspire bias, but I will say If I could just use as itself so we've, we first started off the witty unpredictable talent, a natural game, natural game in a natural workplace,

and then we went to the wisdom of the universe, the truth of Allah for a nation of god, wisdom, universal truth or law nation god is a like. So this is go back to a nation of god, as is take the last two letters, a nation of wisdom, strength and beauty right. You know I'm about little political here, but not gone political as well as they were a great country in the world. What makes us the greatest bassompierre quest we act? Is it our wisdom? Is it our strength? Is it our duty? As the same author easiest ass. You know us our stuff. We got the nooks,

nobody can really you know between about them and was a day. What is I witnessed in order this test argument? Who could beat them, but was the wisdom Then he got all the while we got the technology and ways to beauty when there's so much suffering and in the people complete. The hope is that the wisdom is in the founding documents in the imperfect but wise. The arguments of the celebrated freedom that celebrated all the ideas, so having a lotta nukes having lot of aeroplanes and tanks? Not that's, not important and that the hope is whatever were doing here with this quote greatest contracts: earth that we preserve their ideas and help them flourish yeah

What else? What I mean so we could get. So if you go back to the water, I'm saying that's what we're striving for wastewater for that enormous lie started unpredictable. Just like yeah is that yeah, but, like god, dess, pretty quick I thought you barbarously, whose bruce lee to you, who is he to the world? What ideas of his or interesting to you like? What you know while like hendricks in music bruce These that a marshall are, you just seems to have changed the game I witnessed. What has followed the wood. what is the right word to say, but I witnessed bow who does say hidden. there. He was a minor profit and I got that so from the holy come when it says that we sent profits to every nation, every We don't know body not yet aware of some for credible. We fear- and so

if laws merciful, even a man whose death ass. The somehow get a sign of Moses saw a bone in bush was no about a talk to us all. Had its work, the boy sat on now could have been It was here but point being made They are minor profits, nazi bruce Lee as one another, because what he boy to the world do it through more sure, was a whole shift in a dynamic of taken. You know, and I have as when soon so, entities are born, he didn't do it only in an who says he was also full of philosophy and in the same process And he was also striving to be the best of himself so that three days gorner on,

study bruce Lee multiple times. I first of course so my first council movie was the fake, it was wasn't really bruce. Lee was a few greenhorn eclipse cut together. And then I saw a black sunlight, then my following kung fu movies was like fearless fighters are the ghostly face in unofficial, double caper, basically, a fearless fighters, the lady put the little kid or her back and flew across the ocean across the lake right. So whose wasn't doing that and then I went on a fight that event ohms and spear men and Thirty six aim was in these movie, ah beautiful, and yet there or heightened bruce the high and beyond doable

you're not going to yeah, it's like surreal. They play with this. The world is not of this world. Yeah bruce play with this world. So when the somebody's when somebody I first saw bruce, I actually did think he was as good as these guys. He can't fly he's off line and a move on But then, when I saw the first, when I saw was the big boss, was they retired office? The fairy? but then, when I saw scientists connection, which is the real cost of hurried right. I saw some definite there and I picked got enamored and then of course entered a dragon. I just really Please us why. My first item is answered. A war tang. Thirty, six. Shame is astonishing. Answer the dragon at thirty six put together, but those are the two epitomised. So what happened? As you know, this young me, then

believe me studies him again and I will ask wow: look it look at his physicality look out highs, really he's moving for. Will and then I studied them again, while nobody sayer fatty them again, one look at what he stared, for which still like in the realm of martial arts, the the real or the surreal. What the das between the two you have acted ass between the two because a move I mean movie too need to entertain some kuwait or we want nobody disappeared out of it. woke me they dislike. Somehow and then I'm my whoa. It happened one luke one year with that, because ass the imagination, and the imagination Agus stimulated to the point where the day that we saw imagined by art is restored.

The committee and I will well does star trek. me assess the precursor to ourselves, slayer well. For me, I, like the mixed, the two, funny. How like science fiction, like put him into the possible action, makes us realise. Eventually we was like we want to see idea screen, no matter how, while that is, we are trying to make it in time it gets some weird young kid. He gets inspired. Watch that and be like, I'm going to build that exactly so I dunno who's going to come with the back to the future time machine. But do you have any classmates that you think in time machine I that you're going to back to the future like the what is it the the They have a board or likely we will be at least as and when they got there. They see the one on the water now

now. You know why the the sofa is dope nice as though it actually it. Actually, if you are back to the future fan, you won't feel, as you made it, to the to the image. Yeah or now is going on on the time trial and it was called here. You talk about the master, the fine gauging today that that inspired. the the lyric. for the voting clan, nothing to F with, as I go again. The code word order, learn not have not amerika. I am right in her leg. Abattoirs in enforcing bust out is awesome, causing more family food, then richard dawson and a survey said get dead. The fatal fly, gonna teach us off your head.

It was interesting to see the guillotine and any movie today. How I do now, that that surreal right, but it's not it's, isn't it Is engineering is both real and an and it it does. It adds this chaos into this in a world that and then challenges everything what you're going to do with that you're either going to beat it. Yet, how are you going to be both when you have like the good the evil in the mix of the bad guys, and guys and you're, not sure who the bad guys are as the old question of good vs, evil right yeah, like you said, then the question of, Who was good? Who was evil, but they all had assembled parliament gonna teach air, but in terms of the real you mention the godfather good and evil. That's your favorite movie, or what makes it great, do you think the characters? The study of family of justice of power,

were connected with you or me, every one of those days, but connect in a real and a connection cinematic way as well. that would mean the godfather? Was I seen it the brutal my father was absent and they are for family structure and family values was actually adopted in my family. Because of that My brother divine, we actually, you know, took so much heat at a movie and our family life and ah, we kind of you know. kind of mimic. Their family and structure of somebody has to be the leader, the family, Even with the younger Michael was judged it in sunny frazier in our name, but he was worthy

The divine is older than me. My brother cages, autonomy and its funding so tat. The vehicle is key. Regional, ok was know, kate wants ass, go ass, he was bigger, he's eager beat I ass a language air, but you're Michael, and now by choice. I just by definition of that's what I am in honey, and and it s a blessing. For me, am. I would assist the older brothers emma younger brothers. Look to me as. just as a as a good lie in the family, and, like I said, don't that movie helped my sisters to we. You know the cooling. What my family and of our shared is alive is a big. We all watch these movies together,

so the eight diagram pole fighter master killer father. Even as my family knows, these movies is not jess, I know it'll lay and then you extend it further. My friends know them by name too. so it is a language that we often have dead. Actually, film has informed our communication soda godfather, You know what's also still a fictitious, story of something, but since it was based on reality based or something will- and it was feeling it was so high and I think the purview The resonates is in the purview of it is sought the name resonate with me. You know you gotta be you got a plan ahead. You know either want to deal with the drugs, but that time of business was upon him. His life,

it's almost like. This is a tough one item the muslim brothers come from the Middle east to america and open up dolly's right. I was so happy and we will go on it was a complaint to them and make them like they used to get mad at us when reaching, but that's as a cable as a man, yup. He's here to sell nice. Those don't have persona him like that. Like vito corleone didn't want to sell the drawings he didn't have to do it, he didn't do it in a cost him. Some bullets to eventually somebody in the family ended up, doing it. Yes, and what about this idea that family before everything else, so, like your the know, their different law you live according to in this world and family is first yeah. That's that's. That's mathematically correct.

Yeah. I like that. You remember, I mean there's a there's, a certain sense of you. Look at powerful people. You look at putin, there's a certain sense in the the people who are in the inner circle? That's where you take care of that family. Anyone else that crosses you that you know there's a different set of ethics under which you operate for those people, well Jesus Besides, I only said love thy neighbour and our brother. He was somewhat that community near. Now the lady who this samaritan say a Jesus. I feel that my brother and I for them so well and because you have to give not that which is holy unto the dogs. If you're gonna tell a woman and give not that which is holy unto the walks as she's a woman he caught her dog divides vastly that an hip hop.

yeah. Well, you call the door. I know how that goes, but she tried, but she said to him, but even a dog. now the eat the crumbs. Therefore, From the masters table, anyone help help. Go back to what you said about poor, you talk alone and myself and my family, of course, the family his face, but while the family is good to have the desperate to the community dented a state Country world to follow, we have some times is that, and this is the reason why a lot of powerful families was overthrown like. Why did he behaved? They all came with the guillotine, because that once the family was strong, data and let the the wealth the opportunity a span out. You know it look at water. Yes, our fanny was made strong fur.

but then or a woman was able to form their own corporations and they are there sub families it has to go out and they took over the world. You ve. I talked about being begin and dont. Think I heard you explain it because it connects somehow about how you think about life. you talk about when you're families good you grow there? like circle of empathy grow the community. Is that how you think about Being begin that just capacity of living beings on earth to suffer the aegis. I want to add suffering to them. I made you set a clear, is light, not then know reality, I came to a realization and not really has to die for me to learn no animal. The plants themselves, where I saw this they say you know

You want a steak which is probably the most you know below honor the most of specificity. But this to say the steak is in the top of the line. Nice steak and you've eaten a steak for the protein to help build your muscle and Allen. Have you got it from a cow, a bull by weathers the carload, a ball they grow to about thirteen hundred pounds, and it has a ball- is all mostly muscle and is only grass yeah yeah. If there's yeah mate, it's possible to have both as an athlete and just as a human being to perform well without meeting me that something special in the way of treating animals. Deliver that me to the play think about that a lot. So I I do I'm a robotics person, ai person and I think a lot about. I dunno, if you think about this kind of stuff, but building ai

systems as they become more and more human. Like you start to ask the question of, are we ok at if we give the capacity for ai systems to suffer first to feel, but then to suffer and to hate and to love and to feel emotion?. How do we deal with that? It starts asking the same questions you ask of animals. Are we I will keep adding that suffering to the world right out. There we should add the softly cut is not necessary, like when you look if necessary, right because we're safe survival of the first law of nature. Suppose evasion. If you are in a desert and is not enough to eat but they're lizard, yeah, yeah, okay, you gotta do what you gotta do It's gotta, go you go gotta, go got loose, you gotta do because at the end of the day, manners but ass, a man has dominion over these things. His dominion is almost like a caretaker.

out the way we do have the million we dominated eat it cook it like who to who was the first got? It looked at the lobby, there, things no more eat this day like is oppose, was hard to eat it. You gotta go to a process to get that a crab amendment we see crowds we kids and I don't know why I was always get and achieve closer. you carry on his ear, but at the end of the day a crab then provide no more than a favourable for meat meeting. It was held in st getting it out, cause it's not worth it in reality. You could have gave me, or you could have, gave me a banana and did better for my body and my appetite and my being fulfilled as full. Like look look at a blessing,

of of of of life rights. If you take a seed or you get an apple and you eat it in the apple is multiple sees in it. If you plant their seed it'll, give you a whole tree with a whole. Bunch of apples were all multiple seats, but if you kill a fish, it can't be produced done. If you kill a cat is done, is not that is not coming back, but when you deal with the plants even after you eat the apple and a you deprecate. Your deprecation is worth bees, the ground, the cause of applicable law, circle life, and especially this is a guy named David foster wallace. He wrote a short story called consider. The lobster viii actually think, philosophically about what, from a perspective, the lobster, that's like symbolic or somethin,

because you basically put in and the water like, cold water and then a heats up slowly until until it's no more. What must have been like leaving this time elapses and acquisition is yeah. They just enjoy, sir, that they will probably enjoyed torturing animals. Then they realize they're also delicious after the torture is finished, that's probably how they discovered it. Let me ask you a question: do you ask me the questions, but that's when the but what about the eia? You says about trying to get there ocean in it. By so, do it? So are you taken as a out a little formosa. Yes,. but I think emotion isn't something that there's a algorithm for four particular system. We create emotions together. So emotion is something like this conversation is ethic magical create together, so they have of work of quite a few robots of

very simple version of that of had in a room of vacuum cleaners. There I've had to make different sounds, and one of them is like screaming and pain like lightly having them do that when you kick them or when they run into stuff immediately, I start to feel something right, so Emotion, ok, so the emotion you sad is imposed back on a human when I'm accident then there's out whether for emotion to be imposed for machine the machine he at that It's really good way to ask. It is, is difficult as I think. Ultimately, I only know how to exist in a human world. So sake is the question of. If a tree falls in the forest nobody's there to see, it does so far I still think that ultimately, machines will have to. show emotion to other humans and that's when it becomes real. I'm a thing about this a lot too and I just ok.

Then, I was connecting do with his collaborator mothers, indecision you'll feel now. Why do take emotions wave, Like light as wave and was diggers particle, so emotion is just a small, a shadow, something bigger, and I think the bigger things cautiousness so and mode in his journal, there's a a particle and you what about the eye. thought about it, whether its there's something I got where the cost This motion is a law physics like if it's that fund, methods of work at a lower. I don't know if I said this: comes out and they did is dogmas

on the planet, and I gave out about a song, is called the word of confusion and outside a pathway is alive and well. The look of fusion with so much illusions be sucked. The blood from the planet now needs a transfusion in the redistribution of wealth of health and wealth of self in a deeper understanding about mental health. The doctor, the squad, the physical solution, the psychiatry. This was the build, the bigger institution, but neither had the solution or the equation to make an instrument to measure the weight of the heat vibration. What is the weight of hate? Is it heavier than await weight of love.

Is it heavier than a weight of let us out of a slug with this ten milligrams, all it takes to kill him when he was. often it but am good, but the question is The question here in measured be measured. I think so. I think so just look at the estimate, there were in the dark ages of that. I think he can. Measured, I think there's something the physical likes, something that connects us all this much. You know we tend to think we humans are distinct. Entities are women, about this world, but I think there's some deeper connection. But were so listen sizes in there we just had a few there is in the past hundred years from einstein and the theoretical physics side, we don't know It was human psychology. We barely know much about human biology which,

I figured it all out yeah another derby, because you know you dave about quantum. As long as you say that there is uncertainty and knew how We believe this uncertainty. There is uncertainty, but if there is not an answer and see what happens so I'm gonna send out is less, alas, could look at quantum computers, they're gonna give you that's all The one the wonder already vulgate didn't take two days and make it eight days and by the time you multiply, those things together is like this chessboard right, the it to the millions. But the day that introduce is the uncertainty. You gonna make a move just you notice already. Why? Because this is

then played a thousand times, but sooner or later something uncertain when coming or making next move. Like the way of these, add the add the certainty. I think just recruiting unpredictable that there's something about I see him as a really doesn't like everything to be fully predictable, mean chest. Two is a perfectly solvable, there's nothing unpredictable but chess where waka greeted it, because Bobby fisher setting one of his books at what I love what he said, he said every game of chess is a chore The only way some mighty went his way. One of us makes a mistake

It has gone better than what what is chess like? How do you think about chess? What's at the core of your interest in chess, do see kung fu, music, film, all that life all just living through chess DRC is the is the most slimmer td passes have time. For me. Thus also, she said is like is a pastime that stimulates my mind, my music, my thoughts about life at the same time. So, while some passengers like say baseball, is white as a passer in baseball customers stimulate depending on how you look at it, I put most. Likely you're, not gonna, get this my brain activation, this most calculation and its mustang. about yourself in a game of baseball b? I mean a player, maybe we're not the viewer says, is something that I can engage in two

and even though it s a pastime, is giving me all the stimulation of real time in my life it's funny cause. It's also is a funny game, because it's connected through centuries of play just some of the most interesting people in the history of the war. the play this game and have struggled with whatever have projected their struggles onto the chessboard. And thought to any nations have fought over the chess board. The soviet union vs united states, Bobby Fischer, represented the united states, asks you represent yeah soviet union yeah. I got to the before. I lose track of it, when we were talking about the godfather. You were in american gangster. Great film That is why the affair is to work. You know what venza washington makes that movie meaningful to what was

What was it like? Making them only gives. A great great goes on. I was a great american found was a sum these days and I found the unimportant I found- was polly a blessing treasure I think, even if I wasn't a part of it, it this course sets filmmaking and and to me, a really cool, great story on that that I love about it. The most really is the process of it. In oath, which parliament eyes I wouldn't to know the process, if I wasn't part of it, so as a film joy. There was grateful, but even a process of lake in it was like. high level education for me or multiple levels. I'm working with Ridley scott, which is innocent

Both statement. If I say this here, gonna go out of france, ask on the friday, but he's probably the best living director because watch it allow me to understand a principle that I coined down. I hope it. People use it yet for multi vision, he sings added a capacity to see aid. Things at one time I heard all robin hood yet eighty cameras- I wasn't definite nothing- can give I am all in his mind. You see I salem, do it well, What's it monitors with the video play bag I see no playing everything back to a point, not. There was the same one frame he was already there there

no, if he had what he was not any place, the cameras their big any in any. He saw a light in his own way. And I peeped it, who am I pete this year and I said yeah and I just you know humbly accident. He was like It was gracious enough to speak to me and talk to me and echo farm there of what I thought I saw. It confirmed the confirmed it and I was able to utilise it as Emma filmmaker now and I'm I see ogilvy see three or four things. I can't see eight I'm rb detto, but other dudley

like even right now, just article like this in the wool. Okay, I got it now. I got like how to make this right here, which is just us all sit, and how do I make this look boom, one on this story, their story there and I might just coffers. and what was hanged invisible there. You know you could do something else. There tells you dead, we don't know exactly so so he ass this and even though this is the same near, keeping that in mind all of this. My what about like given inkling of other parts of the process, the editing it is another attack on another day, Pedro outpost page or. Lastly, why is it? Is a cool guy had a test to? pray lobby. What is on the matter? What we We have obtained, but Pedro the editor who

added many great films. Once again he has. I will called the sovereign power of a good editor is at the cipher, almost like breaking the enigma, because he is dealing with thousands or we'll call it. A film was millions of feet of film at least a million feet of film. As of a lot of film for feature he's dealing with that, But he's dealing with multiple cameras, so there is like is like two cameras. He got an a b and he could just go back. No, he may have six cameras. He asked to go back and do their process and you know what He knows how to tell the story again, any proved it

on america gazer, as may be in a witness, because it's so much information is even winnings when a brothers or stock in their little business in a heap at one in a box he just catch it every neighbourhood within one minute and you, who would have you know you know it all. You know you saw it all visor family, while the parma scarface does in two minutes but it's only one character, so you see him go to the bag, he drops the money or have you seen by the lion. You see him against his wife or the title you see guess is: why have you see all that, then it is on a big sign of him in a big house without a tv screen, and you see them go, do it right, but against that? You gonna tell it s story of rising, but you also got in these five others there.

and so it is all in the added man, but also on a director knowing that as well and you gotta keep track eager. I keep thinking about. Thank thousands. story right. There was handed down of those second pictures of them all I have a little party over there, yeah jess, I think yeah. I like it there playing chess in the, and this is greg you are. You said that you are was an old soul and see the world as if you're, two hundred years old, like the fire, because you- division allows you to see the final piece you ve created or your creating very quickly cooking and others. I her dead, as if you ve almost like lived. Many lies of this experience that allows you to see the vision. So let me ask on creativity: where does this creativity behind reza come from this? Both musically and

my eyes down out of animal via the assets it out. One like what is it can officers wouldn't come from I think I can say about that, For some reason it seems endless and that peculiar? When I think about, myself, because I was taught a lot of days from the gesture in our interest in the matter, it's. He introduced me to her papa itself. The brig das in. you know that other causes that action is needed for feeding because of their produce meat DJ night. I will answer had allowed into doubts is, but the jersey deftly. You know me, what a cousin gave me a lot of body aspirations and not saying that he's not creative

as creative as he was down now? I just is like the. Why span of creativity, I don't see him doing that I don't see market in know the cousin, the tormented, these a see them more from DJ answer making the bees you know because in dead you know. What's he got me? It's a estimates. I see him leave. funk rock. He didn't he in well, like I'm orchestra, composer now yeah so so I just said to myself: I just accept myself as an artist as a creative artist. That's what I am. I don't hug that I have to accept that now, where it comes from, I don't know if our service try to try to say where it comes from a gimme gimme gimme

Can you sometime, I ass a safe life itself, but what does it feel I because emerging during the pandemic, for example, for some reason, more came to there's a writing, and so do you feel like you're, just receiving signals from elsewhere, or they will do. You feel like it's hard work or you just waiting. Why is now even way in all noah's? The hard is like I said in one another lurks this. If I m c part of it, I say I enemy as enemy is easy is breathing? Does it's the fact factors actually with a scientific science thing? I read about that. Ninety, maybe now that you said that you heard this until you've had to hit us and they say that you know the atoms in our atmosphere which seem to be infinite in number or not.

infinite into space. They occupy a heck of a in our atmosphere is so there's a chance. At least one million atoms that you breathe in your life, was breathed by galileo? Have you heard this before yeah, but, okay, very Ok, how does your body digested or less started the fact that most of the atoms in at the window the made of is from like stars. I start births psych willie connected fundamentally somehow and get the atoms and make up our body common leave in the same with the cells that are in our body, they diner reborn and we d pay attention to you that at all just goes through us. I don't know that that makes me. He'll live gum?

I'm not an individual, I'm just a finger, something, much bigger some much bigger organism. Well, could you drink? Look the coffee there yeah near right, you're gonna, digest dad you wanna, digest those adams Whether you want put onto the bow or summit or maybe you sweat it up, you might sneeze it out they want to make their way out. How do you, digestive adams, if you just breathing in by how do that's, what I think are artists, does I think so Then an audit is like some people eat days and he gonna gangway. Some people are gonna game. Anyone came muscle, Just give you an analogy taken at the odd, is believes in and translates into the first. They got here I think most of us don't hear that like don't we receive it, but just advise not yet we've not had the frequency. I said this to

is anyone. You know the opposite at ourselves: audits in a certain way, but not you know and say: there's only one million artisan awhile good This is a fight, some of it. If you divide dance at a population, would that what would it we're potter table? Would it be tiny part It might be. That yet, is that that aspires oh yeah, I know so crazy about better days also a chance and has gone numbers in numbers have taught us, after which he, but is also a chance that all of this is actually a form and The the the artist is just watching this, all this all the the chaos of this year, so it is hard to know where the beauty comes from. Is it the artist or the chaos

am the sawdust so as to add on. I don't have the answer, but I if I was to be forced to see us an answer and you not to his mom but but I can, if you want to know that you have not actually life here life, in the town will you write something about confused in which areas like confusion is a gift from god those times when you feel most desperate for solution set weight, the information, become clear, the confusion. To guide. You seek detachment and become a Do sir of your life and that ask you advice if far, if a young person today in high school college, looking for some advice, what advice Did you give him to be a producer of a life that can be proud of? We, the doubtful, start with the WU man. Your first year would last second second

that, will be the dow vu foes and entered a manual as the manual is that not that the political As each other, but the manual is talking about things that is so deeply connected to the music and people when a doubt of wool cosby goes beyond so I was ask me start there, which is not normally wow busboy, I always thought was thought it knowledge their go wisdom here, but since the stout skip ahead, it was them like it. Yeah thankful for that for a young man in high school, voted down of wool and dangle bag is sometimes you know, you know, I've made my son's innovation. They had watched the other the second round, a star, Was there go back? You know made this enemy says: watson. The force awakens They go back here, but what. Guess. If you just look at your life as an example as one heck of a life there's

If you live like it, you ve created someone incredible things artistically in this world, like, if somebody you talk. But that, like one million right at the corner of the table. If someone Strives dreams to become one of those. How do they do it well, the beautiful day is that there are four press left by those who done it in and The best way is the study there study those who have already done what you wanna do. You know me. No, we live on a civilizations. We said this is the greatest country in the world, but I was as a permanent with eye on it in our name, because they did it before and they they may have felt for some reason or southern happens, but it was the slogan of example. Why they take us for

you know you musk is in China do better than what the rocket builders they before you not the first one to build the rocket he's, not the foes gotta take over the electric car he's doin. It better he's advance in it to the point that whoever picks up at the helm, maybe they'll, get it out flying car. So that's the beauty, there's a good voice. Our final vote is to say days, the cafe, because this way people could take it verbally physically, and then maybe this personally for christmas. Votes he said the fastest way Heaven is based, in a term or study in the wise people, meaning the whilst he was living in those who lived before you study the masters. Yet let me ask you a big, perhaps ridiculous. In bulgaria shot, what is the meaning of this whole thing was the meaning of life, big question,

I'm, not going to rush into the answer. I I'm gonna, give you somebody else s efforts and argue my ass. Max and is an. it honours fifteen. Sixty is one of the brothers in always study.

In mathematics and the letter I itself was nice. I Islam, I mean the individual right being in total accord with Islam. Let me finish this: the it of the word Islam in a defined it that islam is an arabic word for peace. Then he said peace is the absence of confusion. Okay, so then they took them as this song that really hit me when I was young, I never forgot, and I am going to the cipher is able, but the little word islam and they broke it down by the letter into our acronym, like casual everything around

we in the they broke it down. I stimulate light and matter because way, if you're not here,. The light matter, don't exist so you're, stimulating or in a year for you. So do we take an accident, I said you know so was the meaning of life. Any brothers is love. Is lawful, run or in other areas? In the religious point of understand those other elements, are they spoke about in front of it

stimulate light and matter. I love that that's powerful and let me give you my definition of life. I think life is that simple lie for each and every one of us to add on to build. Like you said, the masters build on top, I gave you life give life back. I don't think there's a better way to end it than talking about the meaning of life reza I'm a huge fan and such a huge honor, the the spend your valuable time with me as somebody like me. Please, thanks for listening to this conversation with reza to support this podcast. Please check out our sponsors in the description, and now let me leave you. Some words from plato. Poetry is nearer to vital truth than history,

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