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Flax and now here's what conversation with Joe rogan. the. Do you ponder your mortality, he afraid of death? I do think about it. Some time amid does pop into my head, sometimes just the fact that I mean I'm fifty three, so If everything goes great, I have less than fifty years left you. Everything goes great. No car accidents, no injuries, they could happen today. This could be your last day me. That's kind of a stoic thing to me hey I'm death, there's a bunch of philosophers! Armies Becker,

and showed sheldon solomon. They believe that death is the at the core of everything. What this book warm at the core so does that come into play and way see the world I think having a sense of urgency is very beneficial and understand Your time is limited. Can aid you greatly, I think now knowing that this is a temporary time that way we have finite life spans I think this is great power in that, because it it motivates you it gets. You go. I think, being an immortal. Living forever will be one of the most depressing things, particularly if everybody else was dying around you and I think one of the things that makes life so interesting and fascinating is that it doesn't last that you You really get a brief amount of time here and really by the time you're just started a kind of figures,

of out who you are and how not to screw things up so bad, like time's up their eyes over what, above from year, like from your daughter's perspective, these. Do you think about the world? Were now and what kind of world you gonna leave them. I do you worry about it. I do yeah. I do do when I see these protests and riots and chaos, and so much so much anger in the world today and then, particularly today. I think, because of the pen Am I in the fact that so many are out of work and through enough to their own and can't make ends meet, and this people feel helpless and angry. It's a particularly divisive time. It's a particularly turmoil filled I'm and it just doesn't seem like the world of a year ago. Even his feels very kay dangerous and this

It's a small thing like in terms of the light, the possibility things that can happen to the world and a pandemic like the one we ve, exe a religious doubles, the mallet deaths on a bad flew year. So it relatively speaking, is a small thing, comparison to sue the volcano irruptions asteroid impact, a real horrific pandemic of one that you know really wipes out, millions and millions of people it some its stunning. How fragile civility is it's stunning? How fragile are our society really. Is that something this can come along some unprecedented thing, unprecedented thing can come along and also nobody's at work for six months and what is at each other's throats and then politically, everyone's at each other's throats and and then with the advent of social media and the images that you can see in over the videos of police abuse and adjusted

shall tensions are an all time high. They took what we I give you asked me this virus two years ago, like our have racial price in this country, will largely been alleviated, oppose a yes way better than ever before. But now you could argue, there's not naked, argues, notes way worse and in just a small amount of time to weigh worsen. ever been during my lifetime, while my while I'm aware of it, you know. Obviously, when I was it a year, boy in the sixties, there were still going through the civil rights movement, but now It just seems very fever, pitched and I think a lot of that is because the pandemic is because of other the heightened just tension, the way when I like, and it too is pete erode rage? As you know, people have road rage, not just because the car, no one can get to them, but also because you are the heightened state, because you're driving

ass? You know you're driving fast. You know you have to make split second movements, and so anybody doing something like what up people go crazy because there there already at an eight because car and moving very quickly. That's what it feels like with today with the pandemic physic Everybody is already at an ape, so any, the comes along like light at all, on fire burned down, like that's part of what I think is part of the reason for a lot of the looting and the riots in the chaos. It's not just the people out of work but it's also that everyone feels so tense already and one feels so helpless and it's like doing so. Then like that makes people it just it gives people a whole new motivation for chaos, a whole new motivation for for doing destructive. Thanks and I have never experienced a mile and you're a better days when you see

a positive future. What what you think is the way out of this case of twenty two like a few visualizing, twenty twenty five, that's a better world than today was out How do we get there? Was that look like the question I can see? honestly say I dont know and I wouldn't have said I don't know a year ago, a year ago I would have said we're gonna be ok is most people are trump upon it. Com is doing great. I think we're gonna be fine. That's not how I feel the day today day. I don't think there is a clear solution politically, because a thing of up, wins people gonna be furious think of Biden wins people gonna be furious. Particularly like if things get more woke you now, if who continue to enforce this of force compliance and make people behave a certain way and act to certain way, which used to be a part of what this whole woke thing is. It is the most disturbing

me is that I see what's going on. I see there's a lot of losers, that of hopped on this and they shove it in people's faces and it doesn't have to make sense like there was a black lives matter. Protest it stop this woman at arrested. They were surrounding her outside a restaurant there forcing her to raise her fist and compliance the woman who marched for black lives multiple times but black lives matter multiple times and the people around or doing this were all white. It's all. It's all weird, my friend coach tease, wrestling coaches, also on podcast, my friend brine moses. His take on it is that black and his black eyes black lives matters of white call them like. We see that picture. It's hard to argue. That he's got a point. I mean it's clearly, not all about that. But there's lot of people that have jumped on board that are very much like cult members, because with the thing about black lives matter or any movement? Is you can't control who joins? Does no end

prince examination, say don't Ok, how do you feel about this? Was your perceptions on that, like www, how you like that the man who shot the trumps supporter in portland the guy who murder the transport than the cop shot him. That guy was walking around with his hand on his gun. Looking for transporters at just one, I mean it known violent guy who is walk around looking for transport fountain shot one that has nothing to do with black lives matter. He's I shot. Otherwise it is madness, that kind of madness is its disturbed, to see it ramp up so quickly I mean there's been: there's been riots Portland every night. Oh excuse me demonstration. Four hundred and one days now hundred one days in a row of them lighting things on fire breaking into federal buildings. It's like whoever saw that common nobody's other come, and so I dont know

what the solution as and I dont know what it looks like in five years- are twenty twenty five answer question like this: edit Emmy, where we could be looking at man max. We could be looking at the apocalypse wicked, We can also be looking at an invasion from another country. We can be looking at a war like a real hot war, to put a little bit responsibility on you like for me, listen to since the red ban of garden days. Very beginning, and there something in the way you communicate about the world, maybe there's others but you're the one I was aware of it open minded and like loving towards the world, especially as the pack has developed like you just demonstrated and lived. This kind no just kindness or maybe a lack of jealousy in your own little profession, of comedy its. It was clear that you didn't you, you didn't succumb to the weak.

aspects of human nature and thereby inspire people like me who I was. I was naturally brought, probably especially like the twenties early twentieth kind of jealous and the success of others, you're really for the primary person that taught me to arm truly celebrate the success of others, and so the way of question you kind of have a role in this of making a butter twenty two, a five. You have such a big mac, founded, there's something you think you can do on this progress with the words the way you talk, the things you discuss that could create a better twenty five. I think, if anything, can help in leading by example, but. You know that I'm going to help the people who are listening, I don't know why, what else I can do in terms of like make the world a better place. Other then press. My hopes and

it is for that and just To be as nice as I can't peoples, as often as I ten, but I also think I've fallen into this weird category particular with the spotify deal where you know, I'm one of them now, I'm not a real person anymore, now make some famous rich guy yeah, so you go from being a regular person to a famous rich guy, that's out of touch. You know and that That's a real issue whenever you're talking about the economy about it's real life problems- is suggesting. Gonna hurt my heart. The here people say body are mosque, muskie, just the billionaire yeah, it's interesting statement, but I think it Just continue being you and he can t being him people, people people just voicing their worry. He become some rich guy. I don't another doing that I think they're just finding what would the way he describes an attack vector

I think he's right. I think they just stood They can dismiss you by just saying. Oh you're you're, just a that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're, easily definable right, but there I mean there's truth to the uk. If you're, not careful, you can become out of touch, but you that that's an interesting thing, Why haven't you become out of touch like as a human off? The past is- don't act like I get you talk to somebody like me. He don't talk like a famous person. Or you are young. You own act rich. like you're, better than others, there's a certain. That's enough talk to quite a few you have to, but I've talked to especially kind group of people that, like nobel prize winners, let's say they have sometimes have an heir to them that sense of arrogance yeah and you don't. What was that about? Well, you gotta know what that is. right, like gum that air of arrogance comes from age,

King, your own kool aid. You is, believing that somehow, not just because you're getting praise from all these people that you really are something different. Usual it exemplifies theirs something there there's a will. There is a lack of struggle. You know, and I think struggle, Is probably one of the most important balancing tools that approach and can have for me, I struggle mentally struggle physically a struggle meant. In that I like we're talking about on the progress we had previously you and I my bike ass? It I'm not a fan of my work. I am not a fan when I do among my harshest critic. So time. Anybody says something about about mammals, listen as way worse about myself. I you know, I don't like anything. I do ruthlessly introspective and I

I continue to be that way, because that's the only way can be good as comedian there's. No other way. You can't just think you're, awesome and just go out. You have to have to be like picking up everything you do, but there's about today two because you have to have enough confidence to go out there and perform it. You can't think, oh, my god, I suck. I know what I'm doing, but I know doing because I put in all that work and one of put in all that work is out like that. I don't like that result most times. I need to work out at all the time and then there's Google struggle, which I think bounces everything out without physical struggle, I would make the analogy that the body is in a lot of ways like a battery where, if you have extra charge, it's like leaks out of it, and big comes unmanageable and messy, and that's how much like is, if I, if I have too much energy, if I'm not found now exists myself in a violent way like an explosive whale wearing myself out. I don't like

the way the world is. I don't like the way interface with where up to tense. I'm too quick to be upset about things after but I work out hard and I put in a brutal trainees, ashen everything's, fine. What is the first time I saw you jerry you are doing up to correct herself october and there are some in your eyes, like I think you ve talked about that, give you exercise, the demons are essentially so you exercise to get whatever the it's a? U they like out. There is a dark, there's a dark missing! You they're, like the fact that competitiveness in the focus of that seven thousand scary time and allow, as that sober October thing caused my friend we're all talking. Shit right cause were competing against each other in his fit challenges and he had one point: poor

You got a certain amount of points poorer each minute Do you want eighty percent of your max heart rate and one day I got eleven hundred points cited seven hours, lipstick, machine watching the bath. How seen from John wick remember dissolves people about I about fifty times in a row. I went crazy. I went crazy, but went crazy. You know a weird way were brought me back to my my fighting days. It was like this That person came out again as I go on, and even though he was in their tightened their light. Like like an assassin like a killer, I felt I felt like I fell like a different person. Is it echoes Local mike tyson talked about essentially like maybe, but orgasm or crazy that is the area that is their violent person in their Joseph blue.

There's a lot of violence and made for sure of its genetic or learn door. It's because, during my formative years. From the time I was fifteen till I was twenty two I did was fight. There was all dead, there was I did I did, was train and compete, has all dead was my whole life is connected to Tell you what your mom and dad broke up early on as it connected to dad at all? I'm sure it's connected to him also be because he was violent and it made me feel very scared to be around him, but I also think it's connected in who he was as a human is transferred into my dna in, I think others, Certain amount of I mean I mean tweet prejudice against myself. I look like a violent person. If I didn't know me, I'm just even the well built, not even just the way, now obliges the size of my hands and actors. The width of motion. older is like this motion.

Likely alot of violence in my history in my past my ancestry- and I think I think minimize that with people some of your behavior, I wanna see my daughter of a one daughter, that's obsessive in terms of what she wants to get really good at things I could she and shop. Act as things all day, long and end its one hundred percent, my personality she's me and a female form. the anger is march and without the fear, she is alive, household and oversight that, but she has this in Hence obsession with doing things and doing things really well and getting bear would the point we have tourist stop to enhance, brings in the house. Stop stop command to sit out, have dinner the Glen, where one more like she's, just like she's, lisa psycho, and I think, there's a lot of. Behavior and

Personality and a lot of these things are passed down through genetics. We really no right We don't know how much of it Who you are genetically is big learned. Hey you're in nature, nurture we don't know of its laws. behavior or whether something that's intrinsically a part of you because of you know who your parents were. I think there's theirs, certainly some genetic violence in me there the challenge that the opt out is. Basically, your life is a productive exploration of how to channel that yeah. try to figure out how to get get that monkey to sit down and calm down his another purse in is a calm, rational kind only person who, just once the laugh and have fun and then is that dude who comes out when I did so in october, that guy scheme like the guy guy. Just once get up in the morning a go outside it. Some.

I mean when I was competing, it was necessary, but it makes me Remember I didn't really remember what would what to be like until that is like work out seven hours a day and it is so obsessed and and all I about winning, as I was thinking about if they were there workin out five hours day. I wanted. I wanted to know that I was going to work out an extra three hours and I was gonna early, and I was gonna text them all. Hey pussies am operate. Take pictures sense of history. Your house, like you're gonna, die or kept tell them you're all going die and try to keep up with me. You're gonna die. You are fully joking. No, it wasn't job here. All that was fucked up about. it's a scary thing, actual goggins and what I sign you and during that time is like this guy, like this is why I have been awaiting dugong as recently is because he wants to meet you. Do they talk in this package, but he also astronomy

ultra marathon with Me- and I felt like this- is a person. If I spend any time in the realm if I spent the entire with Joe rogan of that sober october nick, I might have to die to get out there's, this kind of the others a competitive aspect at super unhealthy. and you saw the video that we watch or to have goggins draining his knee. That would stop, from running ever again, because think my head. Ok, I'm gonna ruin. cartilage and I needed knee replacement. I would start thinking good on that line, but he is perpetually in this push. It mindset you know that what he taught caused the dog in him. You know he's got that dog is in him all day long and he feeds that dog. You know, and that's that so he is that's one of the reasons why he so inspiration on he's fuel for millions and millions of people mean he really, as he motivates people in a way that is said so powerful, but it can be very destructive.

just that I know I know now, especially after the sober october things that thanks Let me in I didn't know so really have done. I think physically competitor some one time are supposed to fight wesley snipes came out, then too there came out to get you back our creepy too, but luckily that never happened, but that was many months of training training twice a day. Every day kid in the morning, jujitsu at nine I'll just go on, go on go on go on, and I was just thinking this the long and it but a bit fucks with all the other aspects of your life fucks with your friendships. with, if you're fucked up my comedy fucks with everything, because that mindset is not a mindset of an artist s mindset of a conqueror because yeah destroyer. That's why it's so interesting see MIKE tyson's make this. It is clear that, like whatever. That is, however, that fight goes. He made us there's a switch of a dvd stepped into a different dimension,

regions, juniors, comer, pakistan and in a is gonna, be on before the fight, I'm I'm of so curious to see how goes down but genuinely concerned has might soon is a heavyweight and Roy jones at his best, was hundred sixty eight pounds, and that roy? Has that room in his house and the house of were MIKE. Tyson goes on an obvious. I wrote my might never room This is given empire in there with you if the inside of the door opens up a door, there's there's a whole empire in his head and he he's in that firmly. You know when he got out of the weed and and started training again. You could see it in him by the way physically in person hillock spectacular, he looks like a fuckin adonis I mean he was ready to go it's crazy. I want to see as a him where were you Have you ever considered competing in jiu jitsu now? For that very reason, I don't want to get obsessed

My mind number one to try quit video games playing video games, the studio, adequate, his ass plain five hours. It was outta. Nowhere. All of a sudden, I was playing five hours day. I was coming home late for dinner. I was ending ass early and jumping on the video games playing. I get obsessed with things, and I have to recognize what It is in these competitive things I competitive especially like really exciting, could better things like video games, the very dangerous for me, the all. Competitive. Video game is like jujitsu and if I was young, most certainly would have done it. If I didn't have a very clear career path, it was something I enjoyed my concern would be that out become a professional jujitsu jitsu. When I was young and I would not have the energy to do stand up and do all the other things I wanna doing as a career. When I was on. twenty one. I quit my job teaching. I was teaching at boston university as teacher take one there and

I knew- and I also my own school in revere I knew I couldn't do it right. And also be doing can accommodate. I knew I couldn't do both those things there's away to be cognizant of that obsessive, force within you to make sure yes, It's not a man's when mental illness. That's that's a very poor regular mental illness, and I think that mental ass again, my fault, when of years from fifteen till I was twenty one and twenty two, those those years were spent. Constantly obsessed with martial arts. That was me. Whole day. I mean I trained almost every day the item, I would not avows, either injured or if I was exhausted, if I need the day off, but I was obsessed and so that part of my personality that I haven't nurtured is always gonna, be there under the surface and when you, It gets reignited by something

It's a very weird! It's a weird feeling and it can get ignited with a video game can get ignited with anything that that obsessive, that you know whatever it is that competitive demon yeah the way you talk about guitar, I know you would love fall in love with playing guitar, but I think you're very wise to not touch that thing. So I won't golf. I have friends want to go in my fucking thing, so people ask me about that. So Europe is digital game like like, like like assuming that I somehow spend hours wrongly before and after drag, I mean what's a good to, and you should at some point show a technique or something that'd be fun Well, I mean I've got what's your game, but what's your name over there that I saw, I saw you doing, I think, had an arm something online yeah I do that was I fucked my neck, I'm doing head and arm chose. I did him so much that I I you know because you use your neck so much with head and arm chokes. I developed like a real

cancun my neck and It turned out at a bulging desk car and you on that just one side as well. It was I no. I could do it on the left side, but I definitely am better on the right side, the right side, my bedside. Oh, if you were to compete at say, I was your age game. Where would you go from standing up? How would you go to sleep? and would you pull guard? Would you take down what? How would you prefer ass. What's that I've got taken, our good wrestler. So I would- most likely either pull guard or I would pull half guard. You have a good guard. He have a comfortable being on your own spot on your back. Yes, I am very flexible, so I have good. My rubber guard is you go to regard yeah good arm? morrison single triangles off my back, but I I have very good half car, but my top keynes. My best, I have very strong, tops and do you have a hattrick card? You have to have preference of like what kind of guard and how to pass the guard and the like.

alexander, a specific game plan, like you do w the hopes from half guard is the game plan for me. If I get double hopes from half guard. I get sweep a law unto hooks of wet the arms or half guard locked down right, they're, going to lockdown double and hooks gotta clinched to the bodies The body is at high pressure and massive pressure and then in my way into a position. We call the dogfight into an inch my way to position. Workers do not get the person on their back desolate because he did show me as to disagree about the thai thing. sometimes you so wrong. Let's not wrong with you with you it's wrong because he will unite like there's a system where they have had this thing. how we're going to figure it out? Ok, but the ever little velcro in the back seat. You're, just not cheating you're, not the ears, the exact yeah you did

I did feel when you showed me. I think you show me the rubber garden, because it still a guy it's a me. I just felt you gonna mealy, feel now with a rubber gorgeous. But when you move your body is your arm. gosh Angie type of guy, who knows how to control another human being so like some people, a little bit more I'll, say agile and technical. I gotta play full and kind of pollution. loose and train day work on transition transition, transition, euro control, guy, like you know how to control position in advance position, Donna her the same ways all about control night, my name is smush most, my games machine. Grab a hold of you want to have you. Why would I let you go as my thought I won't. Let you guys want to incrementally move to a better position and to strangle you, but I'm much more into strangling people than anything else.

The great emma may approach ford agitator. Well too many people, dont, tap, their arms and undecided? I'm not opposed to? Our bars, are love our bars. But everybody goes to sleep and an quit from. Pressure to media mean quit mentally nothing. I can't breathe enough. A guy who's like a really good top talking guy, and he mounts you and I'm a big thing. of mounting with my Legs- crossed illegal guard like a top guard and so I can squeeze with both legs mush and I'm just I'm just looking for people to make mistakes slowly incrementally bettering my position until I can get somethin locked up. I loved due to their mouths, wished in india Just like your joint for more durable figure out a way to make joint more durable, cottage, jujitsu forever yardage sheet

talk to this robot assess, rusty, Jackie builds on one of the war, clasping I built humanoid robots, your instincts the dynamics yadda keep people in that kind of robotics. So essence, but a question of like how far we will be firm on having a role, I'll be your speech champion and he has actually really really tough problem. It's the same thing that new make. Somebody idea commie attack on the wrestling side special to understand the movement of the human body in ways that so difficult to teach it. So it's so subtle. The timing, The pressure points like the leverage, all kinds of things, that's just for the clenched situation and then the movement for the striking is very difficult. As long as you're not allowed as a robot to like used your natural abilities of her. a lot more power where a lot more power and more durable right, my body like specially meanness, guess I d like to see this

he'll hook game like everybody's in violent leg, locks he'll hooks like a horse, eyes, wind up with torture knees everyone's get too sneeze everyone's needs are torn apart. You anyway, grow newman s guests in all its like one of those joints where men when it goes as us, you guys are twenty eight years older blown out needs and we asked the ridiculous question. What do you think we're talking about? so, we think is the best martial arts south offence for sure jujutsu yeah for right. I think grappling I What judo as well, especially in a cold climate. If you get someone who's got like a heavy winter jacket on my god like Juno's, an incredible less concrete does the worse place to be heavy when her jacket with a juno specialist and you stand put them- oh my god, but I thank god, because in most self defense situations that usually ones up with grappling, you definitely off, though, knowing some striking causes

nothing more terrifying than when you go to take someone down. They actually have takedown skills, but they can fight, and so they have down defence and they not a fight. And then you do not stand up. I thought worst thing the world seeing someone like reaching who doesn't know how to do striking someone, cracked, you wouldn't mind all that crap magog talk which is like, the whole line of argument that says that jujitsu arresting and all these sports they fundamentally take your wife the nature of violence, so there teaching out of play, this is the reality of of violence that, is involved in like a self defense situation, that is, is that of toy deficit of skills have been in general, the people that say that jujitsu or other martial arts- don't they did more of a sport, They don't really understand your envy. The dont really violence in general, the people that say that suck yeah

as anybody who thinks like someone like you know him I'll, just bite? You Michael you gonna bite me. Ok, You think I'm an invite you to what do you think of that? If I put you in your fucking, face you think you're still gonna bite me when you can't even see if you really barely even know you're alive, choking unconscious choke. Some is really good at jujitsu. Good luck! Good luck! Stamina! With your keys You know you don't have a chance. In average, sounds much better in the trip you and get. You back and then dave, now by you in your face and get ahead norm choke on you all that crap. my gosh, it's out the window son, you you way better. Learning what works on train kellers, I d, idea that you're gonna pokes him when the eye and then going to kick him in the knots and like the europe you're going these drills that yeah? It's good to know what to do. You run into someone who doesn't know how to fight its way better, to know what due to someone who knows how to fight that's the best day, learn how to fight

against people who know how to fight all that practise self defence and a guy I come at you with a knife you're going to grab the rest and do that like it's good to know self defense, but it's more important to understand martial arts comprehensively when you western martial arts comprehensively like there's no crop, since it has no problem guys, but it would be shocking if a crowd magog, I m a mixed. Martial arts guy had a fight and the mix our sights Gaza? A train keller all round didn't fuck that guy up? That's that's what I would expect would happen. I would I, wouldn't I wouldn't, think that some guy, who has No better! This in a little bit of that and prepares for the streets is they be able to handle pursue trains with killers. On a day to day Social roles are jujitsu blackfellow who train my tie champions like here, it's the best martial arts, the marsalis at work on Marshall artists, not the marsh

I start work on untrained people. What about we're in texas now? What about guns, but that's the best martial arts, would you in this crazy time. Should people carry guns it's not a bad idea to have a gun, because if need a gun, you have a gun and if you don't need a gun. If you're a person self control, you're not going use it you're, not gonna, just randomly use it, but you have something to protect you this. Why idea? The second amendment the idea second is distorted by mass shootings or by terrible people. Murder people do terrible things, but its debts, Those things are real, but they don't take away from the fundamental efficacy of having a firearm and defending your family, defending your life and there are real lives situations where people of firearms and its protected them, or their loved ones or theirs. Opt shooters. There's that there's many.

they stories. But people don't like those stories because then it it tends to lead to this on culture argument is pro gun culture argument that people find work, very uncomfortable its debts. Human beings are messy and we're messy in so many different ways. Right were messy emotionally, were messy messy physically, but were also messy and what's good or bad. What's we want things to be binary, want things to be right, a wrong weena one or zero and they're not, but There is crime in the world. There is violence in the world and you're, better off knowing how to fight, and you better and better of knowing how to defend yourself and you're, better off a gun at a generally. Think their guns I do like, Do the guns. A second amendment help protect the first summit There is a kind of sense that makes put media, knowing that so many people in this country have guns that, ouch jones- I just listen to one the sight of and for wars for the first time

Is he he minds me like when I drank some tequila, I felt like I'm going to some dark places today. That's how I feel like listening to him, but he he talks about like that it's he worries about martial law. So basically from an overreach by which happened throughout history like there's this something away about there, but it's It puts me knowing that so much of the population has guns that people government would think twice. Before instituting martial law in cities, but I share with us in our motion, On the individual level. I mentioned I say this, but I don't yet own a gun, and I felt that if I carry a gun, stutter likely. Just for me as a human. No, my psychology, I feel like I'm more likely to die. I feel like output, myself and situations

that I should like the way I I will see the world will change bless. My natural feeling is like when somebody thousand, and I knew late at night. It was fully some guy looks at you. you can immediately calculated. This is dangerous, human being there. It starts with a monkey. Look at first like I'm a bigger monkey than you and that's why I found ache, for example, I'll, do the beta thing of just looking down and turning when and just getting out of trouble like very politely and basically that kind of approach, because if you have in terms of getting out of serious violence situations like serious something where you could die verses. If I had a gun I feel like I wouldn't want to be.

That there would be the cowboy monkey thing. Why would want to put myself in a situation where I'm a little bit of a savior even of myself and almost create danger, which can no longer get like the escalation of which I can no longer control what you're talking about taking a gun somewhere versus having a gun in your home. Yes, yes, I mean carry on me. That's a different situation, much harder to get a warrant for the arrl license for that control concealed carry licences. Especially, use its. They don't come easy. I message yeah, that's another thing here. Saying gun in the home. yeah I got in the home having a gun errant knowing how to use a gun. I know it he's gonna trained minnow. Many hours learning how to shoot a got it a tactical places, you know there's a bunch of it of me doing it, and so am I I practice, and I think it's good.

To understand data be accurate, so I've been a fan of your podcast for a long time. You don't often talk about it, because you always kind of looking word, but if you look at the whole studio, they just left. Is there some epoch marisa stand out to you that, like yours, the back, I can't believe this happened. Oh yeah almost too many of them. The count, the summit. to my knowledge of even mass blowing a flight throw in the middle the hallway video of that. Have you seen the video of it yeah. I think he post on instagram. I think I did too yeah he's a madman haven't Bernie sanders in there and you know just all the fun fight companion we did and although the crazy podcast with Joe ideas and duncan trussell on there were so many there were so many moments. You know it's some podcast his day. This is Weird art form, and it almost seems like sounds

billy, but I'm seems like something that chose me rather than I chose it. I think of that all the time in some strange way, it's like I'm, I'm showing up as like an antenna, and I just plug in and twist twist on, I take in the thing- and I put it in other, and I am more like a passenger of this weird ride. Yet you, you talked about as before re like this idea of that human beings, you just areas of these ideas. Now ideas are the ones who are breeding yeah and suchlike idea found new as a useful brain to use the spread itself through the casting medium. Yes, I think that as it, but digging dick you can buy your pockets. I think bulge ideas I think about all those comedians. If had I mean, I think had Julian, I mean maybe close to fifty times similar,

Some crazy number is there an he is over the top offensive. Just ass, who used the core? Is there? Some sense were. you, u wandered like whether its right to have spotify episode, number one dress, for five hours Why would I do it that way? That's why word nasa suits and we got highs fuck like that, the idea behind it. I mean: can you into respect that a little bit What is that? That's rare as such a rare thing to do, because it turn this you're not supposed to talk the talk, So, over the huge platform, the you have five hours. Why not because Donald trump apparently watches suggest the idea that there is ease. I mean that's what I think about in these seals

to me that they listen to the park gas, that the data that I do and I Somebody, like David favor, and I was nervous about it as nervously- I have a conversation for me, David favor is the duncan trussell, which is like just because of his experiences with the? U of o's yeah. He just even just the way he sees the world because he is open his eyes like this, but you open himself to the possibility of conventional ideas, most people in the scientific community, canada, say while I don't really want to believe anything that doesnt have a lot of hard evidence spread, and so that was to me like a step as the thing somehow, because more popular than becomes is fear of lake. Well, should I talked this person or not, and I mean you're an aspiration and saying I do It- how you want you have to. First of all, I have what you call fuck you money

and if you have fuck you money say fuck you what's the point of having the fuck you money, you're, wasting it like you're wasting position. Like someone said to me I got why you? Why do you like sports car so much like how many cars do you have a bunch of cars or cars? If I was a kid, and I said hey of ours- that crazy it's famous guy, like her, want to have a bunch of cool fucking cars like it. So I so I would do that like cars, that not everybody gets to do that like if you're the person that gets to you that you're kind of supposed to do it like that's if you, if you want to. If that really does speak to you- and you know to have talked to you about this, for muscle cars specifically once in the nineteen sixties and the early seventies, they speak to me in some weird way: man I could just stare at them, like average at sixty, have corvette. I walk around it, sometimes at night, when no one's around, as I just let the air at at favorite muscle car, like what's your most bad ass, late sixties,

the probably that car providence, sixty five claret jack I'll walk around it when no one's around, I think our journey sixty nine cover. A particular year than just sixty. I've is generation to sixty nine is generation. Three sixty nine is like the it's. Even more. herbie they're. Both awesome just awesome in different ways, but I I love muscle cars for whatever reason, but but the point is like I like what I like and if I can, do what I want to do. I should do it. I want to do and not hurt anybody, and the thing is like I would do the duncan podcast of no one was listening right Mobility, if we're just started to do a podcast together and no one cared nogales, two thousand views which we did. four years on time. I would do a duncan and we'll get high. We talk crazy shit about aliens spaceships and maybe do maybe Ideas are living life forms and they're inside your head, and that's all things get man other just kind of

morphed me and him together, because the life form idea life form ideas, mine that I've. I've really really think about a lot I think about the technical side. By the way I, when I heard you say that, because I've been figure as a well that's interesting. it might be, they might be alive because they will. I don't know what the fuck day, but when someone had caused an idea for a whatever an invention, a toaster and then they think about this already We decide these heating elements in the spring and then it pops on the dance, have a timer and then they build this thing. now- also it's alive- it's like you manifested in a physical form, toasters, not the best example, but a car airplane, you're thinking about a thing like an idea comes into your head and you could say, was just creativity. It's a part of being a person, that's how we invented tool and how you know why we became better hunters. All those things are true, I'm not saying that there is some magic to what I'm saying but,

there is also a possibility that were simplifying something by saying It's just creativity that a natural human inclination to invent thanks. But why is it possible that ideas? I cry, timmy too, like we are the only animal others does a few species they create things like bees may be hives and by the day the very uniform you know, some animals use tools. You know, like chancellor use, like sticks to get termite. And things like that, but there's think about what we do, that makes you wonder, cause will the kid just look at its room that wherein look at all these electronics- with crazy shit that human beings have invented and then built upon there's inventions improved and innovative It came out of ideas like the idea, but they did it. German It's in someone's head it back

around. They write it down the share with others to other people, I similar ideas or ideas at a complimentary. They work together and they then they changed the world. As a new thing in that as the ideas, not the people, it's like. We think we found the ideas, but it's more like the ideas. The ideas found out sign you yeah there, essentially in the in the air they come to you. I was felt like that with bits like when I come up with a bow that's why I'm amazed telling people at the stephen press field book the war of art, because he talks about respecting the muse and the idea that Europe, Ideas come when you sit down and you do the work. While you sit down like a professional and you he talked to the muse like come, don't tell me what to do. I give the muse was a real thing is if it means, as I got some mystical creature It comes in delivers you ideas, even if it s not real, that's how it works. It does work like that.

if you do treated like its amuse and you treated with the respect and you'd be treated like a professional. The ideas come to you. I never thought about what he's doing just sitting there waiting for the idea. That's trying to breed to find him yeah, there's! There's if the tribute that, if you show atrophy, if you show up, put in the time and focus your energy on that that the ideas will arrive. They will arrive and that's the same with writing comedy been many many times where I come home from the comic store, hedges sit down and start writing, and I just I want. I got nothing, there's nothing there, I'm just writing as well bullshit, it's nothing! it's good it's just like hm and also bam. There's the idea You may also. I can't stop and then I know a couple hours later in my woe and then the next nine months stage, and I like how bout that boom it. This big laugh my holy shit

no, that came out of the discipline to sit down and call amuse me in the cool thing? Is the ideas have found you, like I'm, gonna, use this dude like here. He himself upon gases part of that when a breed inside his brain has to others, yeah. It's the same, or an inventor. You know how many uses guy who's, like desperately seeking some sort of a product to bring to me, get some guy wants to invent. Thanks is thinking about inventing things all time. These ideas, with a weasel away in your head, and it seems We also that you have you have the floor, you can see. your mind operates under has to be correct because wasn about creativity seems to be, if you think about yourself a lot if you really into yourself or your image, or or your selfish, those it is not they don't fight Do as I got The idea of the creative yeah. I guess it stifles the opportunity

the idea has put to find a gas, which is one of the reasons why joke thieves, people still jokes, are terrible writer. There's never like really good writers were also joke. Fees is just joke thieves and then you know when they have to write on their own. If they get exposed, they become terrible comedians David. Did there a shadow of They were when they are stealing other people's ideas, because thing that would make you steal a person's idea. Is that ego part that that the like the wanting to claim it for you, self, the wanting to be the man I want at all with a woman. You know you ought to be the person who gets out there. It says it and everybody's going to love me for it, like you can't think like that and be creative it requires a humility and requires a detachment from self and order. yea ike, when I'm writing a blank alike the staring unlike understood, the part of my mind, that's active, is not like me. It's like this, weird core function. Part

where I'm not. I'm not aware personality and not aware my mom, whereby any there I'm just trying to put it together in a way that I know works just being there. At present. The address is the big believer just sitting there, staring at a blank page after putting in the time yeah sometimes it's not that way? Sometimes it's an inspirational Sometimes I'll be sitting there at dinner, held back yeah I got an idea in my wife's. Really cool water might have an idea. At a bar. I have to just run out of the room, real quick and I write it down on my phone and then I can come back because those those like little gifts that you get some time. The universe at nowhere and some people rely only on those gifts in our talk to comics about, like I can't come on my best ideas. Why dont right am. I know I do to come. with great ideas why dont right, but I also right you can do both of those things are not mutually exclusive. You mention fucking money

I feel like I have fuck you minor. A year ago I was a zero. I fuck you may now biggest problem my standards. My only much in this world but because also probably be the view, but it's three the four hundred thousand people isn't every episode. I do a lot and that result is weird, has acted as full television shown cable as crazy. It's all you the other s amazing, but at this point that also resulted in a few money. In a sense that I don't know, I don't need anything else this work. But so, by way of asking I've looked up. You inspired me for a long time give advice. You ve done this. on the positive side of life. The of advice for somebody like for me Somebody like me to go. This journey requires

It has gone on this journey is their advice, both small and big. They have someone like me The advice is to keep doing what feels right to you and do what you're doing obviously is threatening with for forgetting that big of an audience and I've listened dear pike ass. You are very good at it, so just keep doing it where you're doing it, I don't know, anybody else get involved. What about you ve connect? thank you, my jamie, at the colony store, I met with the ice house at eyes, Well, I think I met him at the comedy store, but then we talked at the ice house than what she'd have to ask him yet. Did you think deeply about cause like You know you basic of nobody on your team and and so it almost you're like a marriage. Where is it will you selective about like a jail? to sum up to bring into your little circle while Jamie's exceptional? He is the true ism, especial

I mean he might have gone. I remember I was in their early days, maybe you could say, but you could always doubling much better at it, but he right away he's exceptional he's, that very little ego. Yes, east is now a guy who needs a lot of attention, he's not a guy who overestimates anything in terms of vague, negative or positive. I kiss I kissed is interpretation of weather. It's a good things that happened. The show are bad things and happiness show. He just takes it all like flat, he's chill he's just cool as fuck and he's so smart. Any so good as an audio engineer and as a podcast producer he's the best, but he's base going, people on you and the whole team, so yeah how'd you find in when you let people in. I am sure other people want to get involved. Why don't you have a co host that he basically kind of well

You will there's a problem when the cost like when you and I are talking when we're talk, I'm tuned in to you and I'm waiting to hear what saying I'm listening and I'm interpreting it and then I'm too calculating whether or not I have anything to say whether to let you keep talking wet weather. I maybe have a question that lets you expand further or whether I have a disagreement or like there's a dance. That's going now one as another person there chimed in two, if fucks the dance up its idea, and have you doing in a dance with someone you know I give yours slow dancing with someone and a third since their step. It I knew if he sometimes it's fun. Sometimes ever third person is fun how many podcast and does fund debate compared to structured debate charges, but even then it gets difficult because people talk over each other and also I find that without headphones. It's

way easier talk over each other makes mistakes here. You know you don't hear the same way. when you have headphones, you I hear. You here, it's all one sound, and I the audience hears exactly or rather I hear exact with audience years weathers over here. My my voices louder than yours is you're over there and if at all, phones on it doesn't sound altogether and that point one of them interesting things about your show, is you don't never have done and is generally don't do remote like an signed. Not from our cars, but you don't go to another person's location, like you have done a few small him and then just like. I would supposedly he should be yeah. He should do this, but I loved how we went back and forth on email. I told him he needs to get your his ass back in in in this. In the studio he's working on a book. of his long time ago, because I became obsessed with toxic plasma system, I have reached out to him a law.

time ago before he was wont, do up than I caught him in downtown. L a was there for something else, and I just greedily snatched up an hour's time, but he doesn't get. I think some of those folks don't get how much magic can happen. In this part castillo lake, bigger than anything they ever done in terms of their work, not a monopoly, my reach, but in terms of the discovery of new ideas something magical. Our conversation like that, like some we as brilliant ass him. If he gives himself overture conversation for multiple hours at a time? There's another We been inspiration where I like, getting more and more confidence of telling people I can elon musk that, like you a lot of seals are like what he has thirty minutes, the schedule am, I know three hours,

and then there are like is so some say no and then they come back this people's they'll come back there like ok with me, starting to get it. They started to get it and you're a rare a beacon of hope in and sense that there is some value long form. They think that nobody wants to listen for three, for more than thirty minutes there. They think I got nothing to say, but the reality is, if you just give yourself over to like the three we're just let it go three hours flowered wherever it is there so much to discover. By what you didn't even know. You think yeah yeah you have. to be confident that you could do it in the beginning. I just did it because that's what I wanted to do and no one was listening I have always been a curious person. So boys I've always been interested in italy, sitting to how people think about things and how, in talking to people about our mindset and just in

spending on my own ideas just talking shit, and so we Are these part gas and they would go on forever and my I've met for an hour I've. Never let him died and level. It does died down Never let him ah forget this uses a draft report. Custom tone right now you fucked up. I know why his eye because people not gonna, listen to you don't have to. I got you listen, a part of it he was. He was just do it just I'm telling you trust me cut down forty five minutes. It's all you need like now now, you're right, I I like listening to long form things. No one has that kind of time and go okay, I'm gonna! Do it, I'm just going to keep doing it. This way, so in it. He does it. He is like two and a half hours. Long now is one, but you wouldn't like Hey I'm immensities before this gonna happen effectually. I a lot of progress towards it under going talk to Putin, but you wouldn't travelled to Putin. You want talk to you, put as a dangerous character, he's not

he's not here to every single thing with jerry craft which restores super boring air cause. I think that was a misunderstanding. Oh really, I think it's a little bit. He just decided he is going to steal that superbowl ring kind of. I think it was. I know he thought I can. I see your ring he chosen as rain that he puts it answers. I get murder somebody with this ring, so he and then he walked off with it is possibly he did it, as a he's, a big believer and displays of power, so I guess possibly did that. but I think he sees himself as I am a tool with which to demonstrate. That russia still belongs in the stage of the big players, as he does a lot of actions like to do that a lens, but in forms of human being. Outside of energy the evils that he may may not have done. He is

I really thought full intelligent fun, human being I the wit and the depth from then jerry prospect, It was really interesting, unlike his managing now selling a judo chop, but he's is really good judah. As I have seen in practice, judo is illegitimate. and not only that he loves it, not just scare wise, but talk about it, to reason about it to think about it, I may as well, so maybe I'd be a good cause, but you and travel to him what s called the principles that the core, the advice I don't to whatever I would. Rather, his thing does not a person that I to have on the show I'm happy to talk to anybody, I'm just as happy to talk to you as I am to talk to trump I am probably more happy talk to you as I am to talk to MIKE tyson as I am to talk to Joey ds. I, like talking

paper, I enjoy doing podcast. I enjoy talking variety people and I schedule them base I want to like. I try not to get too many right wing people in a row or too many progressive people in a row. I don't wanna get repetitive to trying to get to me. Iders in a row, I tried about that night many comedians comedians or the one one group whack. You have three four in a five in cause? That's my tribe! Now those are my. People it's easy, we get. about anything, it's weird dance you know, did did the conversations that you do not a pike s or are there there with us? and dance. and you want to know you want. Tap on your own feet and you want to make sure that you Do it in a way through the park as an awareness entertaining for people on it's, it's a whip. The conversations are learning had talked to me. It's a weird skill, too, weird skill, It took a long time for me to get good- and I didn't know is a skill until I started doing it

I just thought you just talking It's just. I know how to talk we'll just talk to people and then along the way I realize like oh and then, when you talk to people that are bad He realized that its skill. I particularly my things about my people about the answer is a lot of em tend to want to talk, but dont want a lesson right, so there waiting for you to stop talking, so they can talk, but then necessarily think about what you're saying and they just does waiting for their opportunity or they talk over. You are they try real hard, not to do that. Sometimes I fail, but my that, when a member best I'm dancing ultimately the scale conversations just really listening really and listening and thinking stable thinking and buying genuinely curious and and really having. You know up, attack on what they're saying in any way

a follow up, question or may be inch scott, it's gotta be real, it's gotta be authentic and what it is dignan, it's real a resonates people there listening and they go. Ah, like I'm locked in with the way you're thinking a youtube as are in a conversation, and I'm locked in you know when she talks in you. Listen I've, I'm listening to you know, he said something to her when she says something too to him like there does a thing that happens during conversations where you're there are you listening to and its with me when I listen to a good podcast, I feel, like I'm in the room. In the room and mike I come unlike the friend got to sit down and listen Yeah great conversation, I long conversations I love listening to them and I love pudding. together and the fact that this part gas has gone so fuckin big it. It's

stunning to me. Blows me away and I'd never anticipated. It never thought for a second that that stupid thing that I do my couch in my my office was the biggest thing ever done in my life by far like people to make fun of it like there's a guy mr document is coming out in one of the parts of the documentaries, my friend Tom Segura, when he first I do my podcast he would he would believing and he would talk to read vanish like what the fuck is he doing here like. Why is he doing this like who's listenings, like how some people like it and it's like fucking nonsense, waste time and like in the document shows like, thousand views like one of the early use dream apples hilarious and they don't just like it- really they form a friendship with you. It's like I even me because to me like that in their eyes, can a beautiful weird right It's a kind of power life here and I don't know it's out. It's also heartbreaking

do you realize you'll never really get to know them back like they re? Clearly, your friend yeah yeah ass in a sad to see a person with coolly, brilliant and interesting in friends with you, but you don't get a chance to return there, and, as my kids, it took them a while to figure out what's going on, but It will come up to me and I you know they would say something like hey man. I fuckin love. You thanks man, alright, hey brother, nice me, my daughter was like sixty like do you know, I do not know how she's like how You know you have to very weird, resistance to have with young kids were Explain do this thing called pod gas and millions of people and so now one of my daughter's is twelve and one of her friends is thirteen. A boy goes school there and he's obsessed with me. and so she's weird it out and she says domain,

don't you like me? I think you just into my dad fucking weird. I gotta have that are these stages in her life. There are large conversation with a boyfriend. Yeah probably yeah tell us something about men to this. This podcast is my pike. Ass is uniquely masculine. I'm a man and I'm not- I am also a man- that doesn't have to go through some sort of a corporate filter, not gone through executive producers, tommy! Don't don't have this guest on. Don't talk about that, you know we. We looked at focus groups and they don't they don't seem to like when you do this like there's. None of that. I just- and I I I just do So if this also, I have a whole podcast we're just talk about cars and people. I don't wanna hear you talk about cars will good. Congratulations. You found what you like here is good news. there's fifteen hundred other once go, The other absence right? Don't talk about cars, you, oh, you don't have to listen. And

like your brand aegis, not our who you're in that's what you do, but it's like it's authentically what I'm interested in all the podcasts, whether I'm talking today, Frazier about as experience with ufos, whether I'm talk, to David sinclair about life extension weather can t you about artificial intelligence or what it's, because I want to talk to these people and that that resonates. I like when people any shit in I've, talked about this before I think that I have no interest in making furniture, but I like this pbs show with this. Guy makes furniture by hand. I love watching her asthma because he's so into it is expanding their partner. I'm not gonna. Do that. I don't give a fuck about furniture. Furniture for me is function like this desk function at work

but I love when people are into it. You know- and I am happy that someone can make it and they do a great job, but I'm not I'm not interested in the the task is or the even the finished product as much as I'm interested in someone's passion for santa the passion that they've put into this. That shines through last question I sometimes ask this just for two are: what is it to challenge to make people roll their eyes to make money? besides, I ask what is the meaning of life The european rogan do think there is a meaning as many many meanings of life. I think the way to navigate life. That's enjoyable! I think it requires many things it requires first law requires love. You have to have loved ones. You have to have family, you have to have friends, you have to have people that care about you and you have to care about them. I think that is

primary, then it also requires interests. There has to be that stimulate you now it could be just a subsistence lifestyle theres many people that believe and practise this lifestyle of just living, the land and hunting and fishing and living in the woods, and they seem incur to be happy and there's something to be said for that. That is an interest there's something in theirs. It there's a direct connection between their actions and their sustenance. They they get their food that way there can did to nature and the environment as vying for them. If you have that, I think you needs something that is interesting to pat something, that's your passion about and there's far too many people, get sucked into living a life where you're just do. A job. just showing up and put it in your time and on going home. But you have a passion for what you're doing, and I think That is that's a recipe for or a boring, and very

fulfilling life. You mention love difficult track, water wheel. About the demons and the violence in there. somewhere. What's the role of love in this, the end, your own life, it's very important man and it did this one of the reasons why I am so I'm so interested in helping people I am very interested in people feeling good. I like them to feel good. I want to help them alive. I like doing things that make them feel like you care about me like about you. I really do not want people to feel good. I want my me to feel good or my friends to feel good. I want guests feel good about the pike has experience you, I am I'm a big believer in as much as I can spread, posit pause of energy and joy and happiness and and relay all the good advice that I've ever gotten all is it I've learned and if they could benefit people, when I find that those things benefit people actually

the quality of their life or improve their success. Prove their relationships or I'm very high. Did you do that that that means a lot to me, though way we interact with each other is so important, The reasons why I like someone gets cancelled or you get publicly shamed so devastating, because his always people had negative. others, negative energy come in your way, and you feel it as much as liked to pretend that you, your immune, that kind of stuff and some people do like to pretend that you feel theirs of there's a tangible force when people are upsetting and that's the same with love ones or family or anytime, someone's upset at you whether its the people or the small amount of people that hasn't impact on you and your psyche and your physical being. So the more you can spread love and the more love comes back to you. You also create this butterfly factor, because, where other people start

recognizing like. Oh, you know, one heat is nice to me. I feel better and an avenue nicer to people and when I'm nice people feel better, and I feel better, and it spreads outward, and that's one thing that I've done through this part, can, I think, is I've. I've imparted my personal philosophy. The ink and timeliness and generosity to other people, and have I mean to correct you you didn't do it the ideas that are breeding themselves to your brain. Have you heard the idea in the air made their way into my head? Love is a more efficient mechanism of spreading ideas. They figured out the ass, probably man, probably so. As far as like the meaning of life. That's that's a bit without that. You have enough. you're. One of the biggest failures in life is to be extremely successful. Financially, but everybody hates you anybody age you and you just miserable and alone and angry and depressed and sad, and when you,

Do you hear about rich famous people to commit suicide wow? You missed the mark. He got some parts right, but you put to me eggs in one basket, too many eggs in the financial basket or their success basket or the accomplishment basket and not enough enough. chip in love basket and there's a balance that and when I talked about the violence in all that stuff, like that to me is me, will understand he recognised. That is me trying to achieve that balance is so I go, kill those demons so that this boat is low. Well, he know because if it's not, then the boat is like this and then everything's all fucked up and every time we hit a wave things fall apart, bounce at bowed out figure it out I know who you are: some people don't a problem at all, some people they could just go for water in their cause. A cucumber I need more, you know I need I'll bet, I need a heavy bag. I need, the echo bike airs.

bike. I need some hard core shit and if I don't get that, I don't feel good. So figured that out too, and that makes me a nicer person that makes me their actions nature makes the it to change the quality of my my friend, my relationships at people thank god, women. Senora link. I can. I can certainly a guarantee that this is one of the memories I'll be replaying. Twenty thirty years from now on if the feature a job, it's a huge honor to talk to you. I hope, hold an honor to talk to you to do. I came down here for this the first week We do in this here and it's it's very Who have you always? I hope you make the texas school again and and and do your package

Another ten eleven whatever. However many years you you're still on this earth or a thank you brother. Thank you. Shipment thanks for listening to his conversation with Joe rogan, a thank you to our sponsors. Neuro, a sleep and dollar shave club check them out in the description to get a discount and to support this podcast. The enjoy this thing subscribe on youtube or view it with five stars and have a podcast follow on spotify support, page on or connect with me on twitter. Alexis friedmann- and now let me leave you some words of wisdom from Joe rogan, the universe rewards, calculated risk and passion, Thank you for listening and hope to see you next time.

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