The boys pick back up on the story of The Manhattan Project, this week focusing on Oppenheimer's "Atomic Dream Team", the development of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and the United States' unrelenting efforts (and gruesome mishaps) in weaponizing nuclear technology.
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search into atomic weapons had technically began long before the japanese attack on pearl harbor. But in truth it was a half hearted effort that wasn't much more than a series of meetings and studies that were keeping the project and government to limbo. If you want to get into your conspiracy, had just done. Look up the s. One committee that it's an interesting group that is where fdr will put together
Develop the manhattan project, but old van over bush around each one of these corners skulking one during when do I get a grip resident
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over here today will worsen the game where you ve been amanda. Never many tries to cover his back with those glowed with locally by september of nineteen forty two almost a year after
pearl harbor is keeping us on track. I know what you're up to america got serious about its nuclear program when faced with intelligence that
Cronyism told them that the nazis were a hair s, breadth away from discovering the secrets to atomic weaponry.
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They are ready to go so you could see why everybody thought the nazis at the job. Well,
people are born in nazi germany weren't there. They were
born, that's wrong or germany. Later after the nazis, you mean yes, Hitler's children as their called
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jack, the government chose a man named general leslie, grow yeah, yeah, yeah b is definitely look like
Can fatigues job done on that day, but no one? So, let's do right now up top killion murphy did not
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you're right into list is not written. The groves was a decisive man who hardly ever took more than an hour to make even the most complicated decision. I like it grows with so confident,
his own abilities that he was often quoted as saying right care do the job. No man can you give me that company they took him
our order at starbucks, making it all is no more than an hour o obeying we'll bigger decision that they said no thing about leslie.
Rather, he knew how to bring the spam to the front line which is kind of a euphemism for older.
The idea of like he can figure out how to get things are you can figure it? I get your visa logistics master, ok
he was also a massive dickhead makes sense yes, but partly because he was arrogant, extraordinarily arrogant, but his arrogance was only pie,
of what made people hate him. What truly made people's blood boil was the fact that ninety nine times out of a hundred leslie groves was absolutely right, but you know the problem is with this guy, not understanding office culture. The thing is called
make it look like you're working. Why are you may, like you know when they I shows up, is new and he just like your everyday engineering, fox cake, shit and then for the? U s
shit you eat drink the battering you shit, the bank account and I waited dick. The clocks bank account could actually it's not that it's over.
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listening. Robes, has truly one of the most important photos in all of history of our group. Of doing something about a super but like on one day back in a day it denoted responsibility, yeah a stalwart.
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They knew how I've know Chris Christy's far beyond. I would put leslie groves more like, as Chris Christie has a tweedle dumb body cs. Leslie groves is more of a penguin bought, oh yeah old school penguin, because, even if you look at his face, he has that knows. That comes out to the point he dots yet, but groves was notorious for bad first impressions.
Often the not everyone around him, had to swallow their pride because groves very simply got shit done. For example, groves had been in charge of all domestic army construction during world war, two, which is basically the
infrastructure that made america the industrial powerhouse of production that made us one of the big dogs, the war. I begged ile de. Thank you, ladies,
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oversaw the building of camps, depots army,
since munition plants, hospitals, airplane factories and most impressively grows was the dude who built the pentagon yeah. He was again he's a go to guy.
getting massive projects, dot, getting them done domestically less impressively when we're talking about domestic camps groves also oversaw the construction of the japanese interment camp
that wrongfully imprisoned a hundred and twenty thousand japanese american citizens throughout worldwide to not of a question of loyalty. I was hanging out with it with a friend of our family in the every year they go down and they do this dance. That is a theme around an army base that was throwing a big dance around the time of pearl harbor when pearl harbor happen and right after that they are. Basically, everybody was on the coast within a concept panic about getting attack
and so back to the west coast or the west coast yeah everybody there was like they threw a big dance, and then he got the famously got interrupted by the author. There was like a fall
the air and it was a bunch of sire than ever. The air raids, iron's every ran away and sobbed the dance. So now what they do is they do a yearly sort of like we're going
do that same dance, we're going to dress in period costume and do swing, dancing and stuff, and she says- and it's amazing, because there's this one japanese family that always comes in full interment camp costume and they dance and they just
I'll being a part of it, nels like we do they
It was afraid of the family, the family. Are you serious about that? Not a bit know that it's like doing a dance in ITALY or you get a couple of tracks in full concentration camp like pajama outfits,
robin Williams and Jacob the liar horrible movie, alright. Well, everyone has fun in a different way: don't they, my god yeah? It sounds like the jerry Leela or the jerry Lewis. The jerry lewis concentration camp, clown movie that guy next to you or might go into public domain, saying that we might be able to see it. Next
First of all, we gave the clown grabbed the day the clown cried most, but, regardless of his sins by july, of
Eighteen, forty two leslie groves was overseeing a million men and women who were dedicated solely
to the war effort, and he was spending around
billion dollars in the process, but part of what made this herculean efforts possible was the fact that growth spent zero effort in the
human resources department. Ten. I don't remember that shit man now me a building got him, but at no eight jars, gonna get in the way of all of the war crime said here is demanding abrasive, sarcastic disrespectful and was described as a son of a bitch and the biggest asshole in the military. By more than a few people then hope that asked
We must have a military, but he was also like so many people in this story, brilliant in his own field, an incredible construction form and in a genius at organization, and if not for him, the man,
project would not have succeed. It is interesting because he did not want to do the manhattan project. Now he was one of those guys that was really excited to go, kill people he was like send me to Europe. I want to go fight, I'm done with this shit. No, like we actually have this thing.
saying it is going to end the war faster than anything that we do when we go over to europe like this, wine is going to end it and he was of the school class rhesus like weapons, don't and wars, people and wars, so he was here actually started, is pretty kind of sceptical that this was getting even do anything. Well, isn't that enough
in their both right. Yes, yes said he, I guess what I mean. He saw it as a demotion when he was given the job he had access to
six hundred million dollars per month, and and that was all just to get projects done. But at the outset the entire budget for the manhattan project was the relatively smaller sum of one hundred million oh house. He ever got to make ends meet with that. Hey! It's nice
on his personal sailor, me it's six hundred million per month, verses one hundred million tonnes for an entire by
you're, getting relatively small local abbot, they're gonna David lunchroom net, which is they're gonna, show up because wouldn't david lunch to seize it three of twin peaks, he just told them how much more money he needed each week there like why, and so he did not pay attention to the edge of the creation of this.
World's most powerful bomb. Is a lot like season three of twin peaks, a lot of comparisons I'm going to make today which, at episode, eight included an absolutely wonderful atomic bomb using crack in the world yeah, but the fucking bomb, the village. It's the same lunch every single day damp and yes, he does, and actually for that episode, the music that is played
the background of seasonal when the atomic bomb, as these had already epizootic disease in three episode, eight, what
Song is, I think it's called like lead, not need something for the victims of hiroshima and its,
plus the sound like the screaming of everybody who died all at once, isn't grant seen yeah it's a great gift to them. They're, going to love that song, it's called ouch ouch, basically groves figured that he'd. Finally, pissed off too many people in the pentagon
Why he was being put on the manhattan project and again he was the guy who was responsible for building the pentagon.
A lot of people on the military saw? The idea of an atomic weapons is a little wacky. Partly this is
believed out of ignorance and partly it was believed out of arrogance. Basically, they thought no stupid. Fuck and scientists is gonna, make my navy obsolete, but not the navy
for a lot of military brass figured that an atomic bomb project was an almost guaranteed fail,
so they took a brilliant. Yet, unlike a manager and sidelined them, thinking that the experience might teach him some humility, but with a guy like groves spite is the strongest fuel you can give
we were able yeah, that's all, oh indeed. He therefore threw himself into the manhattan project completely and if he hadn't
higher operation would have died on the vine for good or ill a contrary to the belief.
The projects name, was randomly chosen. General groves followed the custom of naming.
army core of engineers, projects for the city in which they were locate and as it happens, the first offices for this project were
broadway and chamber street right near city hall and die
in the town manhattan. Oh local boy from my article boy started with twelve people, and it was thus christened the manhattan project, it's kind of like when people name their kids. After where they were conceived.
meet. Somebody like chevy dealer excited coney. Island coney island was wrong jobs now, if this
who's gonna be done right, leslie groves needed a head scientists who wouldn't just reach,
search atomic energy, but who could actually build an atomic weapons? Paradoxically, though, he chose a theoretical physicist named rob.
Oppenheimer, mister, J, r up and I'm a reason there in his main, lament johnson early body care about learning
think they do not wish that they would numbers are better than people. Will you gonna give him
who really big examples to learn from the ground,
oppenheimer- was remembered as being a cordon quote repulsive legal.
little boy. I could be possibly also really good. What does that mean? You know one summer so good in other conniving
what he was a genius. He was truly genius from a little as a little boy and he just he loved learning. Now what
on he would say that his childhood did not prepare him for the fact that the world was full of cruel and better thing, but it like the mentioned, Michael Jackson.
it gave him in his words, maybe like,
also like Michael Jackson, no normal way to be a best, that's what he said, and then he just threw himself. He
I came from a very wealthy family that escape forbidden. Then they came from germany, they moved to the upper west side of new york city. There were very well off. He was educated, all the finest schools. He was
a very spoiled boy. That sounds like a bastard domain. I looked at him as their precious very bright son. They said immediately
as soon as you showed up in school. I start reading american prometheus, which is a really great book, but it's fucking too long, yeah, it's twelve hundred pages as a lot of fun and but the whole. He we didn't know what the
Do you literally came out brilliant and immediately was like an other, did the other kids, because again he was born a dweeb yeah he's a martian
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documentaries about oppenheimer and the manhattan project. In general, they gave a more idealized version of robert Oppenheimer he's a strapping sporty man fashion,
we ve got balls while he was one of those guys use, lanky and toss. You know he actually probably was back the YAP. Fifty fifty shot the depletion of like a big gross dick. I am more inclined to believe five foot, seven and under that's how they ve been able to study how married you have longer dingoes. Technically I'm giving you a compliment in europe, people down fine and then six foot, nine and then group just growing like a potato, they all like addis tool of survival. Seventy six point eight
while later biographies relented and pegged oppenheimer as a frail, frequently ill child who spent most of his time
collecting, minerals and writing
none of you like looking for burial.
But we are like a mineral zest with minerals. Then I went away and how do you call it? What it
but now it's rocks is Roxy collected,
existing more men of that he was a sad child. I pretty certain dan accurate based a lot of e gone on.
Robert oppenheimer, because remember he was thus like when he school scrapes the gunk all the thing is that this is from a collection of gold.
sport is the same jabez. What here that's what he does is a hobby. He can export as moldova is a better than minerals while they use their power.
Iraq, very pretty rock rate, hope you guys like bass. All
but take some now we'll oppenheimer grew up and he subsequently killed it academically at harvard and
went on to become a highly respected yet another
theoretical physicist no nobel prize and it's weird
Like one of those things were to me, I imagine the nobel prizes dislike mass of crazy thing, but it's kind of like how, when you work in show business los angeles- and you start to see like how the mps and also are work functions down in that world,
nobel prize just more like sheer, will jerry got one literally like the way they treated. They were like it's a it's a thing that you're supposed to get that it's supposed to,
show that you are now like.
Raising logo. It's also part of a massive cover up his lot of people that have wanted or war warmonger. Would you
one! He didn't get it not well think about it. This way, oppenheimer,
not having a no belt and was kind of like LEO, never getting an oscar when he finally did get it for the revenant, but he didn't really deserve it for the revenant he was better and what exactly? It's? Not it's more of a lifetime achievement. It was, it was made more of a thank you leo for your country,
yes, well by nineteen. Forty two when leslie groves was on the search for a scientist ahead. The manhattan project oppenheimer, was through
it's eight years old and teaching at you see barkley. Now one fella profess
You see had a harsh view of oppenheimer's overall vibe said that he was
ways nervous. He moved with an odd half job.
in warm swinging gate motivated, get their strange guy. He always cocked his head just a little bit to one side and one shoulder
was always slightly higher than the other. For then he always got his big had on line is no more,
happy, was, and I know,
I now have you seen as Hell nerves wiring. He looks like frankenstein.
Months desire bags straight out, I'm pre again. Another point too. I think it eager
is based on J Robert I'm gonna stay here goes straight up with this professor windows.
often oppenheimer, looked simultaneously like a young einstein and an overgrown choir boy.
Rate, what combo also had horrible tee?
had a constant cough chain, smoke chesterfield and was amazing, aided because he just forget to eat on august or uterus, describing yourself thousand twelve changed the cigarettes a. I got my teeth fixed
no yeah geez. I made up this lie. He was too nice to make other things about it. I don't even know I don't. Even you look great
the great always been sandra bullock. That was the worst ask river.
the points on which I am sure that all the terrible all she did was literally go to a black neighbourhood and people were like. I can't believe you did that simple live their oil well, because it was amazing, aided oppenheimer's body
was a great embarrassment to himself. He was therefore right
early naked you'd whenever nerd, yet, which surprises me, because the oppenheimer movie, just gotten all rating for nudity and sexuality, threatens its inner
get the learn about J robert oppenheimer's, again he's a nerd, but later on he's going to flourish as a man who fucks fucks, pretty ray
europe, so he had his. You know. I've had several affairs and I'm pretty certain. That's where the sukhi sucking
from an irish member, I wanna, really graphic sec. Seen we'll j run along one is all I want is Joe. I went up a loop of chilean murphy's
Orgasm famous room, just simple: you know he so scared me so scared. I get an action in over and over me it's a sore. I just scares gal. I see blue eyes is gone. I am going to come here. I got a little irish accept, I think, Oppenheimer's
at the the of of zip like bag. If you take a bologna sandwich out of it, you know we will get it yet. He was merely dapper will just like leslie groves. Oppenheimer was an absolute genius, but as opposed to groves
oppenheimer was generally well liked, just so long ass. He liked you
yeah. I was watching the trials of robert, a j J, Robert Oppenheimer and the way they all talk about it being like yeah. He was like sport or whatever, but he was kinda mean like see. All these, like scientists being like you're just jealous
just ass. Well, if he didn't like you with, you were talking, he would start
in this weird german acts like this aspect of accident, you would go a yo yo, yo yo, yo, yo yo into you shut up and then, when you shut up where he would destroy your argument before you even made it because he knew exactly what you were going to say. Who is right he's all right without was a thing is that he often flax. He said he had a hard time, not parading people, because he was so much smarter than everybody else, which you can you see him law some into administrator.
over the years. Yeah really understand the sky and downwards come. I know I know I set about it, I'm so odd by castles, just sheer intellectual.
number day, the morse he just says the word,
bulgaria and I know it. I know what I mean living while eames. Nobody, I own, I know what he means by the number gay dont know what I mean. I think I know what you mean. I think you mean that if you tell people they're stupid, often enough you're gonna be right and you gotta be right. Sometimes broken clock is right, succeeded,
absolutely good good work
or is the oppenheimer grew up a political, but around nineteen, thirty six, when it became impossible to ignore the horrible things were happening to jewish people in germany, Oppenheimer finally became interested in world events. There was also a much more personal reason why he got an apology
oppenheimer got horny for a communist seer buddy gnawed arbiter vesper about a communist, though we share
yeah, you really got em good there. You really got em good there. There is a lot of factors here like this is an extremely is one of those like extremely complicated subjects in history that everyone kind of tires apart in and out and again and again
oppenheimer as a communist. Why did he get in bungalow, garment and what it will be? There is a lot
That's what I was saying if we were writing a book about this subject: debts
You were right if we were writing american from here. We were writing a mere meetings. We too would have a two hundred page sequence, where we try to chart how the fact that oppenheimer D
lee into the odd spanish over war, and on this the side there was an eye franco and they ve got bunch of come heap. He would know friends because you such an alien later on, he gets the college he gets into these sort of like what we now call. Hippies movements were at the time which, like all linked the communists,
deals and and thought patterns, as opposed to now. He literally became like super interested it because he finally to france, so one level you can
and see. Yes, obviously he cared about politics and he cared about people. Anyone
to get involved in most humanitarian project. The time we're all in the left side versus the right side, but you could also probably say the last pont cast version because we're not writing american prometheus is a vacuum.
And the fog, and he was right amongst a bunch of cool cigarette smoking. Communist people
chemical feelings in what I mean by believe. That would be the human element absolutely and through her oppenheimer started, hang out with communist, even really accepted.
Even understand marks or angles, but chief went through dost capital less of their online. Will the fact that here he was the only person in those rooms that
red dots, copper, because he was also interested in philosophy and religion. You will, which you comes up time and time again because of his mystical nature, but it still it was like communism. Light now cause he's the kind of you'd like odious
things that can help in america and help society by who is not really about what was going on a russia that to break doom
really you gonna do somethin anticommunist, although this is our, but then they
Lee begun, wouldn't want trial right after the war is needed. On this whole idea, he gets caught up in mccarthyism pretty fuckin hard, but back then nineteen thirties, oppenheimer to stop commies were a good hang at which they are you just get. Well, you gotta leave we're already, I'm that you gotta leave the party when they actually start talking about communism. Contractual just starts getting no fun. When I love I love or communist listeners, we have a lot of them, but you do tend to lecture. Yes, so much, I do understand a lot of reading to their death that capitalism, you your show up, and you got your mcdonald's like you on. As you show up every day, man drew mcdonald's. Your fine then other, not bringing back the irish milkshake,
the irish miller shamrock shamrock shake? They haven't done it the new. I think these anywheres racist or something now the idle american do shit green, oh my god, but I suppose open
a dead, hang out through the conversations because he eventually
at a married. A communist named kitty
kitty had been previously married to an american communist party, official name Joe doubt, who died voluntary
in the spanish civil war. Apparently he was a commander, but he wasn't a well liked commander and during a charge one day she got up. He ran out their men just in following
he got shot guilty already. A guy's follow me. Well, it reminds me of Jane. I
She is the ideal, marry your backpack pod. Yes, when she was married, that very mean mean madge dating them and is abuse net, but he was a protest or to thus it was very complicated, nor was that complicated hot ass. How does that in any way relate to this? Because
timer, because you guys were still number, should find the word not yours. He wait. You did say something that related to it
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say: men was beating up Jim, who also took advantage of a special needs me. He was smart
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when it came to open.
I'm resilience is communism was really more of his wife's thing for oppenheimer
as it was for many americans, everything changed when the japanese bombed pearl harbor and when he was given
opportunity to beat the nazis to the bomb he jumped. Oh yes, because he also because of his connection to the communist party. He actually who met people that were in the first round concentration camps at doc. I got out, and so when he heard that this was like he's all the ex factors that got him involved, because he really was like a peacenik that, like you, do not want to be a part of this. He believed that politics were disgusting. He did not want to have anything to do with it.
just loves his science, but the nazis were the single, most unifying factor in modern time period, to get everybody altogether on one page, ten year old and atomic bomb. The knot
he's got three axes are x factor and there are now on paper. Oppenheimer was a terrible choice to head the manhattan project. Good,
he had no experience leading a large group? He had no experience engineering project because he was a theoretical physicists. His wife and his brother
were communist. You didn't wanna mill and as opposed to so many other candidates, Oppenheimer didn't have, as I said, a nobel prize interested, I'm a fear ready,
Cool power left her gay and my mind. I missed the lottery, but could you write in extensive
paper on power, lifting ass, each class on power lifting and have an actually be helpful. Yeah, then, for it to be helpful, please do pick the shit up up and down up and down opened up and down times
three shut, the fuck up, some had a regular richard. Finally, that I'm gonna boiling complex behind we are used. As I know it is now a glass allegorical teach. I just say: numbers
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What the fuck are you gonna? Do you wanna? Do
the wide groves chose oppenheimer heated it. For the same reason, he did everything he had a gut feeling
at oppenheimer, was the right man for the job. It was fuckin right. It was a super feeling, I feel down, I'm a football fan and it's going to allow mottos. I also
was wrought in right, so I'm not gonna happen. Timers old buddies was a guy who invented the cyclotron who wanted nobel prize for building cyclotron.
and so when they started these like very serious meetings, which was that how do we figure this out? He's like you, gotta meet my body rp, which is what they call it.
This guy is looking literal cross. The boar genius
have a communist by indonesia
nearly all right. So we brings it
to a room is first meeting
He nails in that meeting. What werner heisenberg babbled deadlock in the years before of each he made it a fucking, a formula right there to tell them how much geranium two three
It theoretically would be needed to build an atomic bomb. He was really close immediately. Suddenly,
my actually be kind of necessary for this, and then he came about like build themselves up, but you can't
aiming to be in charge of it and everybody else were like, while he's a fucking communist he's got he's gonna be a spy, but they just don't know actually was way more of a state.
It's me. Oh, is that so, but you know in the end they're like well he's too fucking smart. We saw pockets. Yes, indeed with a weird thing was that oppenheimer was about the only person in the manhattan project who could actually get along with leslie groves in turn, groves had a high opinion of oppenheimer saying that he was the
right man for the job of building an atomic weapons, because Oppenheimer knew about everything except sir,
tat was all mankind couldn't exports, which I understand, I'm trying to bridge the gap to distrait men. Sport was just baseball, candlestick boeing, yet going it's hard to talk to strengthen it
what do you say? Only you drink like I've always rather like the report sets not true at all, but the others
would you out there you started about men. These have similar guy should kill o neil you better free throws
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for the enormous infrastructure needed to make an tonic weapon was built groves and the people holding the purse needed to see that such a weapon was even possible so
enrico fermi they'll. He headed up a project that aim to create their first nuclear reactor.
And, and he did it on the squash courts, underneath the bleachers at the university of chicago okay. Let me explain, I mean I am aging,
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Bertha of germany's uranium club. He believed the graph. I couldn't be used to produce nuclear reactions, so he had therefore moved on to the far more expensive route of using heavy water. The americans, however, had known that graphite was
better option, so they got to work on what was called a pile
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With instruments that he'd named after winning the poor characters, piglet roo and half alone. It's going to lead to the destruction of all humanity me that you ve been reading when the poor books to teach him english. He didn't know he's a sociopath happened. He made in all.
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jobs were uranium, slugs dispersed throughout likes
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We have that theory that he berries the bodies in the woods and then he pretends like when the pooh is around their piglets around. There is a serious.
There is little numbers gang buddhism, uranium slugs were dispersed throughout these graphite cubes like so many nuclear raisins in graphite, loafs people say we cannot teach that. I like that. I took that analogy. I stole out of those from the making of the atomic bomb who author really that yeah nuclear raisins and graphite, raisins and graphite love you chocolate chips, yeah great now, it's ours fantastic! Each little bit contributed to the main goal, which was
to create a nuclear chain reaction on a small scale. If they could do that, then they could move forward with the work of making a weapon that could produce a man
larger nuclear chain reaction on command that would release
enough energy to destroy a city at a time
bob. What good headway, J, Robert Oppenheimer,
covered early on as what he said he's like. As soon as the math came out. What everybody said was like, oh so
Basically, you follow this nuclear fission concept and
well yadda yadda yadda, it's gonna explode, just let it go and what explode with this?
This shows the the kind of scatter shot way. They started to build the weapon because leslie grow
what kind of setup all these areas all around the country to try kind of all in competition against each other to come up with some first. But I just think it's weird cause. It's like playful. They just don't put a bunch of graphite and nuclear bits in a thing kind of scene. What the fuck happens
with it when it really could kill all of lawless area will? This is different. This is with theoretical search to move into practical.
Science, but that's what oppenheimer also understood early on. He said originally like no wheat. This is all going to be different
what's it like burner, heisenberg literally wasn't he had to figure out like? Oh, no, this is to work in real life now. This is then, a classroom, less damage
how it moon, absolutely you want to make sure the the mathematical formula is correct, weird science, that movie what if instead of that
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How long can you give us by forget, but always big? It is now. The danger here was that once the chain
action in the pile started. It had a chance of going critical and since
we're doing this in the middle of chicago. That was indeed a grave concern. I would ask my city council
you like it, we section is, I don't think we were informed, my so as a precaution. They had a dude stand and by with an ax whose only
there's only job was to chop a rope that would lower a huge rod of cadmium into the heart of the pile, and this would apparently stop the nuclear chain reaction. That's all that
It will now say that even now they have backup guys they had to do to bucket to water down could work, but the water was laced with cadmium, so they could throw it on the pile, and that would stop
the cadmium and ever sat the nuclear chain. We actually really should have given the guy a single, very meagre yeah, but in the end, the experiment when exactly as planned at three fifty three p m,
on December. Second, nineteen, forty to just a few days before the first anniversary
the attack on pearl harbor, the so called shit
I go pile became the world's first working nuclear reactors or something guy fieri, some guy theory up. He doesn't. There are also guy fealty by the weights, put some respect, and I never will
eight raw eggs on their personnel, yea charities gift cards- you dont know, but he doesn't like. I know I know that you mentioned the time later. The jagged very doesn't like
that she's idlers, the chicago pile, that's exactly who you want run in the football and at all. I did
refrigerators names refrigerator. The herod had a nickname gnawing over this. The forties
if perry is just a little mikey he's just a little he's, just a little cooler think about what Shaquille o'neal would have done if he can figure it out how to change that free, throw ratio. Yeah! That's a really good point, though some stories paint
This is a moment of elation. It's a moment with the boys broke out a bottle of key
we have to celebrate. This is one of the most impressive scientific achievements in history. Now there was indeed a bottle of key anti involved, but the scientists sat and drank it from paper cups in silence,
afterward physicist LEO Szilard solemnly shook enrico fermi his hand and said that december. Second, nineteen forty two would quote: go down as a black day in the history of mankind. I have to say this is a certainly the most
The spicy meet the boy is really going on, but now that scientists under-
American authority had achieved the sort of self sustaining chain reaction needed to produce an atomic weapon. Leslie groves was
in a massive on almost unlimited budget to get the manhattan project off the ground she is for in szilard put it
If a bunch of americans could build a reactor on a fuckin squash court in chicago, then surely genius
like otto han and burner heisenberg we're miles ahead and therefore the manhattan price.
I was given an immediate sense of grave urgency and reality. Heisenberg had stalled completely, although by appearances he seemed
amtrak, oh yeah. He did it on purpose, so he wasn't getting sent to a goddamn concentration camp, my god, I can't even imagine when they're when they walk in you just like to have your shit. I who I pulled on my shoulder and that's my that's. My problem is: I hit, I hurt my shoulder and we want people to come up with frozen pizza or something something created c by june of nineteen forty two six months before the chicago pile. Sixteen
hi heisenberg was running the most sophisticated nuclear fission experiments in the world. He already belt three
piles of his own yeah. Well I'll know. Heisenberg did not achieve a full nuclear chain reaction with any of these, but each machine
and was a vast improvement on the last and based on its progress. One scientist in Chicago estimated that hitler could have an atomic bomb by the end of nineteen. Forty,
two. I think we all know hitler was obsessed with different kinds of pile. The ones run on his chest help you like that boo boo, that's what they say that weird guy who put that timeline into perspective. If those projections were correct,
hitler havin a bomb by the into of forty two. He would have had an atomic bomb before the allies. Even
gaining footholds in europe with the invasion of ITALY. He would have had a full year and a half before d day, or have you guys rather biography on hitler, we're guy raising money, they actually yadda yadda yadda like ten years all oh yeah, it's mostly about his painting career one page book is crazy, or in other words, if hitler had the bomb by the end of nineteen. Forty two, the allies would be fun.
Are beyond fuck, yes and a while. That would be crazy. Now. True question, though it being that Europe quite tiny, can you read
use the bomb on your european animals only without going to fall out in your own goddamn backyard and learns? What what do we know?
We know about anomalies. They didn't really care about them.
We know that one of the inn plans they were going to do with gas bomb, everybody being did they that was already in a contingency pass, the atomic bomb they were ready to kill every
Nineteen, forty two that atomic bomb that's going to london. They already taken paris, they don't need to bomb hair. I wretch it's going to moscow. That's going on. Moscow knew your way out. That's gonna new york was why he's a sea like there's plenty of places, far beyond germany itself even far beyond
fuckin leat, like that's the thing there taken them
evans round, but if it gets a little radiated for a couple years, fog it it's a thousand year right down. Wait it out is why we have so much robe abundantly willard about new york as they handle it all very well.
Yeah, but thankfully heisenberg's lab was actually a deadly mess again
anyone with a bright mind and even a semblance of a moral compass had fled germany years prior. So all heisenberg was left with were a bunch of dumb dumb nazis shut the fuck up. You know in the first of many catastrophic lab accidents, an assistant
preparing an experiment and fumbled the powder lady. I I know that produced a twelve foot tall explosion of flames rule that badly burned. The assistance ordeal, however, was not over not too long
after hydrogen leaked into an apparatus containing uranium and heavy water, and who else did they send to deal with it, but the dumb fuck assistant? I can feel maybe we should try. Gregory
I could go in because you didn't half my mouse scarred should do that.
It was a virus, let's see if he dies again, the powdered uranium exploded yeah this guy's having a bad day, he was covered in hot flames. Flames were poured upon him. I got to get out of this internal shit, yes and be my friend and wanting to help the other. Nazi assistants brought buckets of water to put out the fire, but they were also. There were also dumb, dumb nazis, because burning uranium has a habit of reacting explosively with water, and so when they tried putting out the fire like it's a fucking three stooges sketch the apparatus exploded like a grenade and threw hundreds of metal rivets yeah. This time the flames were twenty feet high, both in the lab
were killed by the explosion were seen running in terror. The fire fighters who showed up couldn't put
dent in the maze, so they had a letter just run its course for two days. Back in time,
I turn me verna. How was the experiment to sweep them?
you're just gonna, want a lotta breed. It's about a little you already innovating periods. The names are doing their work for the other. What tactically? It was better because the first ones twelve feet. Second flames. Twenty feet, I mean everything: it rose version absolutely you're, doing a great job ill will
no you're bird with I see you a different part of your body is burma to pre and not, as is the overriding your nose is falling off,
You know, I know you don't think I feel it would be helpful
interfering with heisenberg work, the most with the demands and trappings of
nazi society itself.
It is with any government built around a cult of personality. Fealty had to be paid to hitler and the state constantly so heisenberg found himself required to attend endless state functions and lectures to talk
but how they were totally smart people after nazi germany is absolutely tremendous people, nothing, but the best team everybody's doing everybody's pulling sick together tremendous people from indus burke back all around me. Oh, why am I not busy working
Let me just its numbers game. It's numbers game burnt up all of your stuff.
and crew and only half yourself as a result, heisenberg
work on nuclear fission was completely stalled by nineteen forty three at this out. What a total epic fuckin failure. He was very happy, though, because then it caught him out of the spotlight now he's, but with his bosses. Nineteen, forty three, it's done! America keeps believing for two year, yeah that he
is miles ahead of that's the power of plain like you're behind. Even if you are in the lead and it's what you I love your term, we always talk about under promise over deliver. That's what we do.
At the same time, though, another access power had shown interest in atomic weaponry and these people just
and to be the very same on whom the first nuclear weapon would be. You may these people old nazis. Yes, now I mean
any oh, no deaths by nineteen. Forty two that was
yes by nineteen forty to japan,
also been making progress on atomic research see they
that america was very likely working on an atomic bomb themselves. As Henry said, once the math was out there. Everyone knew that it was possible and the job in the gatt- and I didn't
just ass. You know a guy bob hope did the other committees that I really at eight I do not want a bill was completely unaware nuclear and so japan. They projected that they themselves would need at least ten years to produce an atomic weapons, but this in really bother them because
many scientists believe that neither the united states, nor even their allies, germany, they didn't believe that any of em had the resource
or the industrial capacity to produce a nuclear bomb before the war ended. Not. This is another one of those massively debated history, questions of history of why we took a little bit before the child were like. Why did they think that
and we we'd, like you, know like how do the japanese are like. Why do they not think that we wouldn't be able to do this thing, and it just seems like it's cause. They were very kind of closed off to our culture. Will Japan just massively
massively underestimated america yeah like they didn't like? They fought sears that with pearl harbor, they thought like
basically like there was an oil and finally, don't worry, there's a lot of history as yet I wouldn't do it said I I can boil it down like there was an oil embargo on Japan that with the united states, was a part of because Japan has very few resources of its own, so the japanese figured all we gotta. Do we combine pearl harbor will take out america's entire navy all at once, and we can start to get oil again. But what are you
it's numbers gambling, but what they didn't figure on the fact that america could just build another
maybe and we can build and another one and we can build another one, and that's the other thing about it is that they did not realise that if you bob america on the nose, we will not stop until you are all dead yet debt at home. I am actually it's important. You that's the birth rate,
in war, machine that you all in other countries get experience all the time. So the fact that we are now is how well over them new air. I welcome for that nuclear weapon on your country, soya, was thou, know tat going over in ukraine by the way like to see it and action. That's the power of the pent up pentecostal,
There is so much hidden rage, and this this is still the time of america. Idealism right, we're so there
Cloning is actually before the ideals import. Didn't you mean american? Exceptionally? Oh, no. This is full we're isolationist at this point,
History we have the world will one day they woke up our sleeping giant ate it. That's what that's it both those for hitler's exact words
Why don't you just seven, a weird jackson? He actually does easy says if you mixed water colours with your tangible,
you can really go to river gives us comedies, really just a numbers on every now. That's exactly would rush. Limbaugh said, I think, about the bird: can japan
because they didn't believe that america had the resources to build an atomic bomb. They diverted all the
sources they may have spent on atomic research to rate our technology, because that's you
thing to is that again, Japan's problem is always resources.
they didn't really have access to a whole lot of uranium, so atomic research is kind of a waste their time. Just as this
I built an honest, eight or so svelte over there most of the water is very thin. Yeah you go. You really nailed that one no radar when it was actually a great base. Oh no radar was a great use of their resources, absolutely yeah. They really should have put more into what do you call it codes, because once america broke the codes,
It was all over demand and left right left right, left right, although a little on the virgin and many have all those lives in contra abc a baby. You know that I am she'd, never knew that
What's happening, draw dime high up, my own thousand men are minor, laughed rises, made as a motor neurons. Are you there's a nerd lord on you, too?
down down, left right, left right, Ebby start thirty lives. Contra, that's fine on blaring bird really know how to talk some shit he actually did, and so, as it stood, america believed itself to be in an existential race towards atomic weaponry, with its two greatest enemies and when, in fact it was only ratio
against itself, while that's crazy psychological, but when it came to competition, general leslie groves was determined to win hard and when fast, now groves research, the best ways to build them,
save industrial complexes needed to produce fissionable materials and to develop a working mechanism to harness.
the power of the atom nerd
don't be. Nerd is cool, but groves is biggest problem at the outset was deciding which research path to take towards a nuclear weapon. At this point, member there's like
but wait there's the graphite method. There's a heavy water method, there's all kinds of ways that we could get to the bomb. But the thing is you got him figure out, but to ask you: how do you make a thing that goes explode now, but this power
was solved in a way that only america could have done it due to our enormous resources and the fact that the war
wasn't anywhere near america as one then put it. The atomic bomb couldn't be built unless we turned all of america into a factory and in the end, general grove did just that by saying.
fuck it? Let's do em all yup and every single thing that they had at the project became that's what they're all very interested about is like. It was normally. They had a deal with low budget, no parameters, but eventually you get to a point where it's all parameters and they had the exact wherever amount of money. Anything but also puts a lot of pressure on people
You have to do things like you know. Whenever you want. Do it yet very reminds me of what happened with mcdonald's in the milkshake down. He knew lammers emptying d get more milkshakes sold quicker below what they did, then why they got a multi whipper and they were able to whip three milkshakes at once, richard fine. So there you go: diversify disarray, crock thing na fuckin, a re crack.
American? No, he was an asshole Yang America general now, although the manhattan project only employed about a dozen people when it was just some office downtown nineteen, forty two there were a hundred and fifty thousand people work
towards an atomic weapons. By the time we set up the first bomb during the trinity test in july of nineteen forty five, that's half the population of cincinnati. You know it
the interesting to see their faces when the bombs do go off. There are like a like. I'm really happy was it half the actual population. Have Cincinnati
The answer is that what they did, I went to Cincinnati in your eye. What we're going to break up at once into the ones
you're working on the atomic bomb that chile came about, but when it came to which sign
yes, we're gonna be invited to the big show out in the desert, Robert Oppenheimer, travelled across the country to personally recruit the people. He wanted a sort of atomic dream tat.
magic johnson eyes. They try to jane dogs bunny year. If you get isay, I don't get m J. That's albert! That's the problem! This would have been such a great time to just trip, fucking balls and be a spectator if we could just like have our
dress thompson moment just watching this shit life only. I, oh my god, what a nightmarish with this begin, whether interested I the work to do
up tomorrow. Come now. Let us work together in the movie. This is it. This is. This part is gonna, be like a montage with like it that music, like a lotta oppenheimer, on training inside it back and forth it didn't ip and lower limbs lag due in the weird is like fantasy.
You want to come along. The main my man drip is the authentic just happy they're going to make it really cute. There will initially oppenheimer estimated that he would need fifty scientists and fifty technicians to head up for divisions, theoretical experimental, chemical and order,
how to get it into the bomb itself. But girls said fuck.
Q oppenheimer. That's not enough trip over
Where'd. You think you need and go get up to any scientists. It's not tied down down well here,
take him out of my basement. Most scientists were convinced to come.
Can the manhattan project of the assumption that the nazis were getting close to the bomb right, but when a scientist hesitated and get involved in war at all, oh yeah oppenheimer made sure to share the utopian vision that the atomic bomb would actually and war forever to match now get out of. It would be a good teacher bombs how to dance tonight. You again it's a little bit correct. I wish a bomb
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Oppenheimer was recruiting scientists leslie groves was building the infrastructure in the end groves oversight
construction of the real secret towns build almost from scratch, and he did it all in two months now
I designed these towns needed to be isolated and that went double for the town that was going to be responsible for actually constructing and testing the bomb itself you know what's interesting is that's against all of the actual. Ah, that's against the sense of the time.
Because we all ignore. Nor do we need these next big cities, because that's how you get all the shit that we need for the expiring,
stations are good idea there. All like also we're going to test this atomic bomb right outside of chicago down. You don't think differently.
Party huge target on chicago always what for the test site? They needed a place with good transportation in order,
it all that shit there. They need a local labour force and
needed a moderate climate for year round construction and outdoor experimentation. Most importantly, though, groves major
or to your point, Henry that it was an isolated site so near by commute,
these wouldn't be adversely affected by any unforeseen.
I mean try explaining nuclear sickened like radiation sickness to a fuckin congressmen and eighteen. Forty two
you mean you're, being pussies us. I mean Jimmy and have just brought snowball into the white to the capital, amber diego buyers by donor. If you can't, we can compare anything now because that they used to have like thoughts and shame in Peru,
dignity, media. So now I wouldn't say strong thurman had allotted dignity now now now you're right, I am therefore groves chose the sight of a former boys prep school.
In him as new mexico, oh about forty miles north west of santa FE, and he rechristened it as los alamos
for that was also drew Robert oppenheimer's old, stamping ground, which he loved the desert. He loved the desert me love ride, neither gonna be like you wouldn't believe, just how groovy
cactus couldn't be told him and he loved this area of the world, and he
do the LOS Alamos area and he was like cause. That was one of his mean again into the thing
You learn about him where one of his big issues when they first found a spot where you like, you, can barely see the beautiful mountain ranges.
Now. We must learn to fly idea, but there were like, but eventually to fight. If there was one of the
losses of the new area when they got to LOS alamos music, and you can see beautiful, colors, Israel, red nice
You mean you beautiful pleasure, why not lose the sky clouds or why? Yes, indeed, the land of enchantment, some taxes is actually
the lie down the numbers game.
Two numbers day. That's comedy, is it real?
That's true I saw when adopting cactus sentenced. Room has to be it has, is actually do like to lay down a loss AL about. Let's just get a move on
we lost. Our LOS Alamos was only one of the manhattan projects, three so called secret cities and even those
Three, those warrant the only manhattan project sites, besides loss, Alan
code named site. Why the other eye? Because we got it
why that letter, not why its ally
Have I say when you look at once, but I wish you would be joker. I was neither hominem based jump right
The other two main sides were an oak ridge, tennessee and hampered washington, while smaller sites were located in thirteen other cities across the united states also had a couple in canada and
One in england now los Alamos alone would start with a population of about thirty five hundred in a town
already included a school, a laundry libraries, a movie theater bachelor apartments, yet a horror, her eyes because they did want them all, be they separated the women. Men and women are the ones that were married now. Net barbers to restaurants of vat and
bar. Why listen with all their when they showed up, although they did also vastly underestimate the resources they would?
It was not fund a live their nerve, the first few months they were living pretty fuckin rough. Yet he was interesting because then Robert Oppenheimer promised all of them. I will definitely make a restaurant that you can
I'll, go on dates with your wives, to where you re literally made a cafe for the single market.
They may take your other scientists, wife on a date place within LOS Alamos now so watchdog
recent history on tv, I Friday, is the first one, the horseshoe around the bar, so people would mingle as they go to their
so when you as by the time, the barn and rob this interesting. It is ensured
By the time the bond dropped in nineteen forty five los Alamos that population would have doubled to eight thousand
Ok and a couple years later, it was up to ten thousand, because work did not stop on Tom research after hiroshi
A night Isaak in these two largest asexually multiplying ripen chemicals? Yet there are gremlins a massive issue because they people were having babies, people were fucking and having babies and they were, and it was I got some point. Leslie groves had cut it all off he's like there's. Do many fucking babies being born in them?
my atomic bomb project that you avoid, but the thing about the atomic bomb.
Is that, even without the allies,
we're already inflicting airborne destruction in germany on a never before seen scale with bombing
campaigns like the evocatively titled operation, gomorrah, not good
oh my because we know that story yap turn into salts, oh yeah,
as with Gomorrah, the allies used incendiary bonds to reduce the industrial capacity of germany's war machine and they started with the city of humbug, see as opposed to simple explosive
most incendiary bonds mould were to contain small sticks of white phosphorus called bomblets q
they gathered themselves around the target at a high altitude in advance of the actual explosive ball. That's funny cuter local bob's le helper. It is the home of the hamburger. Once the battles and say look, I know it's a hamburg, germany, that's really hamburger was created interesting once the
but it was actually up the road I once the big bomb hit the ground. It would ignite these bomb year, starting fire, so hot tat. They could melt
metal and rock medical, or, as I raise a those fires within spread indiscriminately to the rest of the city where they would meet fires caused by other incendiary by our figure, mediaeval of their friends, a hell of a data be a fire. This would create fire storms so hot that the pilots dropping the bombs from thousands of feet above they were nearly suffocated by the heat. Was that, of course, not
compared to what was happening on the ground. Yet there was a girl who is more like a fire festival. Weird guy now the firebombing of Dresden is the most infamous of these operations due to the current vonnegut novel slaughterhouse five,
but the night time british firebombing of hamburg in nineteen, forty three, which killed forty five
thousand civilian. We mostly old people, women and children. That was just as bad. Why will you let me talk about?
cute all the bomb on you and make you the flames. Subway was using nobly there. They knew. Maybe somebody like jude anytime, you have sickle at the other than the oracle is like. Let's cut the bomber dismantling one knows, let me do that forty five thousand in
and people that's about it, a lot worse, according to accounts in the mail,
and the atomic bomb by richard roads. People would be cooks in poor.
of their own melted fat as the heat turned, sealed, shelters into kilns, and those left
the streets became small blackened bundles. There was one: dude was a bummer to have a look elsewhere. Taste aka white were taste
she's not acute it. How about a little zone? Bad is eating his own fat, courtway, Debbie proven in practice. I know if you can
get a scoop of my liquid? You get highs. Will if you weren't,
and or melted. You die either from the hurricane force, wins the fire, storms created or you'd asphyxiated, because the fire would suck up all the auction from the air. Sometimes the fire storms would create atmospheric conditions that would cause brow
means to burst out of people's temple alone or cause their energy to burst out from underneath therein.
All their entire. I warn you never
your last year. You never want you're westwards going. Why needed? I e.
You know it's not, but you don't make it. You need the other bombs, it's as if these bombs are doing a really good job
unlike naughty near the alien, real bad yeah. Well, and of course all this would pale in comparison to the fire bombing of Tokyo,
That would happen, I think, a year or two later, but while this does prove that the firebombing
cities, whether as hamburg, london or tokyo, it proves they were always horrific. Oh yeah. It also showed that the men in charge during world war two had no issue bombing civilians. So, after all, when it was all said and done, thirty eight
million civilians died during world war, two, which was incredibly too,
at times the number of military personnel killed and thirty eight million is a conservative estimate.
Good luck and what you know really, I mean, obviously we know devices but, like bizarre morbid humanist,
Why did the nazis do it in the first place? You know like. Why do the japanese do it in the first fucking point? It's very it's it's humbling because you think about like how much destruction was caused in such a short period of time and what they had a kind of scramble to do and how the manhattan it's so crazy. This whole story is just this time period that came out
this all fucked up like now. We got to know about my from on ptsd. You think these guys were fighting in the just war like the current code, good war,
united yeah yeah, thirty, eight million. That's what about a tenth of the population of the united states? I guess they could have done it and Alan.
parsons, nevada, the owner, parsons project, so I mean which also very controversial for people just as controversial as the minutes. From now, when we're talking about numbers in only made
since, when it came to the manhattan project, that security was gonna, be a top concern due to just how many people were involved. I could see that interesting way. Some of the security practices that groves adopted during the manhattan projects still persist to this day and the projects secret budget and lack of legislative oversight made it america's first large.
Scale. Black budget programme never mind most of it was taken over by that group. This s, one committee that was just like f the are just kind of sad.
are you are in charge of this day? You're gonna go and do this, and which is the group a guys that die? You wouldn't leave you.
No down here you mean there will just a bunch of famous guys within the government. There were super super powerful and they were the they didn't have to answer to anybody, but themselves.
Not surprisingly, many of the people grows. Recruited went on to have extensive careers in the cia, there's a lot of that that this is why, to me, this subjects are extremely important to know for people that are into stuff that last puck us also
others whose, where you're like all of this information, another mountain manhattan project, helps feed Michael
we theory mind as well, because you start to kind of see how they run something of this size and how its, which your fine impossible to keep secret impossible.
because the entire world was also doing the same thing at the same time and the men and roger TAT a hundred and fifty thousand participants within it.
So everybody knew what was going on. They talked about the little town
everybody more open, is more of an open secret in certain areas of the country los Alamos they people and aids.
Where did when they arrived right, the whole town was, like the other, build some kind of a double,
buddy learning. New club is no atomic bomb, but a new building, some kind of a web. They did me up man in a port by hat, but the cigarette in his mouth. He was like hullo,
my name is Mister Johnson,
jasmine spare events here, we're like no you're super famous nuclear scientists j robert up- and I am your also greeley- overestimating the reach of a famous science, those two kids. There they talked about this. There was two kids there were like. He was vain. Sound was, unlike you was all newspaper. Even like people knew about this guy, it was just
If I am also greatly underestimated how smart people used to be and how much they used to reduce the red star yeah and if you like, a celebrity someone, cues gets like their do it
I didn't see grit something yeah and all of a sudden, all these fucking great day to be a kid with a couple of friends. Get on your bicycles, it's it sounds awesome, yeah! All of a sudden, all these fuckin european dudes, just showing up at your small town, new mexico, wonderful colors of the new mexican background yeah, and then, of course, you get. Those new restaurants must be a good day to be in LOS Alamos. It was this place called the owl cafe that made a thing called the atomic burger that was just outside of town that they used to go eat the
green chile, burger the veal jellies, olive green chile bernajoux I do, I don't need must by some burgers
where they should meet him ass man. How do they know? I guess it was the day was a thing about these security measures. That's the thing about
all the cia share of white budget shit.
security measures in no way worked, the soviets had no less than to active spies with in the inner circle of
I entered the thought as the top secret, and now
even to mention all the other little spies peppered throughout member at the time that we they were our allies. So there are a lot of people despise cortical spies, truly involved here were some of oppenheimer students. We he brought in to be like assistance and people who were
in various experiments at the time they had sort of a naive american censure com
this idea that, like no one
the share of this information with our allies. It's like they're, trying to help this humanitarian effort. We should be going in helping them like the nazis right now,
I'll bubbled up, but it shows with the sea. I was watching great into
with the cia guy. You talked about like these quote, unquote human tactics that you have to do to in order to flip people, to give you information and what they do is very human things. This guy he'd eat like this. One guy was talking about how he he
trying to get information from some country, its undertakings, iran or something you became friends with this guy. That was
king, wants a military project and they started talking, and he had some point he floated he's like you know you can always come to america, and you know we, we could hook you up and he was like nah, I'm not right, but then the cia dude remained actual friends with this guy for ten years, just waiting for the day when his shithead boss, a very human he got, the guy got sick of his boss and he's like I'm sick of doing this and he's just like I got
re way to help you you just come with me and so on, helping you now. It's a states. This kind of things like with the cops say about like. Let me help you wouldn't like never real, so these guys got flipped as little spies off of their just straight up and yet you know naive tat. They,
you mean like they. There, like noon, be played on these these things and we learn from it,
gb, engage you be learned from us and we create a fund. Espionage group family now espionage and did, of course, when it comes.
To the middle east when they use text them, something very funny. They text back
hello,
h, a l, o l, single thing and minutes. Are your nerd they're talking they're? Looking at me, I don't know, what's happening
yeah. I love you just heard the word iran and you stop now. I know I remember everything he said. Like literally other young men wanted to work with us. He got sick of his boss and then he came over here and worked with us. That's how it works here were the worst
about all of these spies, like all these guys working for the soviet union, feeding information, the soviet union. This was what mccarthy
and all the rest of those assholes used when they relax. Even one communist state department is one too many
You know shit like that, because buddy had it had happened like this one dude was hampering. It was presently happening. Well, one dude Carl Fuchs, like you know, mccarthy, would say. Like eight years ago, Karl Fuchs fed information to the soviets and they got the bomb two years before they shudder. You know it's all because it happened, but of course america were known for overcook
then that's a good, a good turn. Your war that we just did middle east over corral can well known, but groves did his best to keep things secure
far as getting into LOS Alamos or any of its, these three secret cities went each one was perimeter by barbed wire. Almost no one had a tell us
and everyone had badges and drivers licences with idee numbers, but no names white bad january. The white badges lot, because oppenheimer was also breaking a bunch of rule sang like all the scientist work. We only way for this to work is we need to have a weekly meeting where everybody is working to everything in this, and this base comes together and we talk about it and grocers, like ah no
because it's literally why we do think covertly the way we do that what it's about separate compartmentalization makes oppenheimer's like do you want.
done now or do you want this done five years from now and so date? That's why they did. They basically said: ok fuck the rules for now, but again it would all deeply punish, often
or in the future. Joey I'm not in every one at los Alamos, they all had the same address p, o box. Sixteen sixty three in santa FE, an interesting
If anyone born in LOS Alamos during the manhattan project can prove it, because even birth certificates issued from that location at that period of time listed p o box. Sixteen sixty three as the address so far,
you could just may all shit. I guess you do. I guess so. I'd mail, a muslim erotic, magazines, flippers! That's all
slovens dolphin theme, tat need to be jerked off scientist sunday morning. Oh my god, this with a horny us because they are the egoism an actor. The face of a scientist
and then the desire of just some prisoner day or very ho or the there was a lot of hunting a whole lot of beavers getting snagged on is indeed know when it came to compartment
Creation of knowledge. Leslie grows was the only person on earth who had total knowledge of the whole thing. He controlled the pace, the priorities in the direction of everything major while in regard to secrecy, the top
already was to keep knowledge from in order of importance. The germans, the japanese and the russians
has just about everyone in the military brass had peg the russians as our next big bad, just as soon as world were too was over. I guess it was the everybody knew that the russians for the next enemy, except for all of the people that found this literature in college at the time period, which is what oppenheimer says later on when the your grilling him, when she's basically saying it didn't, seem so
just before the war. It was your idea
so we were talking in and I actually never thought about a world controlled by russia, just what we can learn from these, that, from all of these flights,
the visa ban, an alert looters you're not like, because you wouldn't give up other names and then also he was a man by the name.
somalia, that was a french professor, was Oppenheimer's best friend and he was a card carrying communist and he did a thing where bombers
keep everybody separate right because he's like listen, I'm already getting enough heat here. Everybody considers me a communist and it just because I got thin tie on at this point, and I went to a couple meetings back in the day, but this guy
the dinner and basically says you know you- should sell oliver information russia, not even
standing at everything's wired for sound
This little remark and both his wife, katy and oppenheimer's, like no bats treason, we're not going to do that, but because the quest
and was even ass. He was immediately fact everything was on the everything was recorded, yeah
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away from other nations, so that the? U s would come out of the war with this
throng of a position as possible. The only
People who knew we were doing this where the british, but groves also wanted to keep the knowledge of the project from congress and to a certain extent
the president, so none of them would or even could interfere. Basically, when it came to the manhattan project after one with a policy of set at amsterdam
go yeah. Why not? I mean that's rich, that's what it is. It's what you do to him and forget that there yeah he's the ron popeil and president president spare not at all, but perhaps the most consequential of leslie groves door security directives which would heavily influence later decisions on how the bomb was dropped. He insisted that the
bomb be a surprise, thus gaining the maximum psychological effect. We are just say one thing: rapprochement,
those are the boy. Maybe we could put like a little. Maybe we could put a little
info on it. Hey there I difficult fat man and little boy yeah. I thought it was a little boy, boy boy, that's a they were named after characters in the maltese falcon,
well done. Then, the boy and thin man I love when they let that dog on the back of that fact,
the house in the lab kiss, was made
god they give. You know it's interesting, the dog and never ending story. Isn't he a bit of a maltese falcon is he's a flying maltese. He is a massive maltese
field, the shame, but they are also the fucking story. Didn't yes,
you never ending story. Well, one of these credits that no it's about the idea of imaginations is than ever
everything we military is add that it is very sad movie, but the never ending story is the story that we all share in the world of imagination. Yes, we don't, we did get hit
lord wisbeach sad ass movie, but always good for assent. Now the kids just have the forgetting the recession and new hidden.
I got that movie cars, Zola, gas, believe the hopelessness of having no future yet and if not all of the shows world. But all the secrecy and military protocol clashed with some of the scientists who had a hard time operating
even within the rules of the academic sector and some of them treated security so casually that they are lucky they did not get shot before the whole thing was said and done it with what this teaches me is again that conspiracies work. If they are small, but you mustn't can conspiracy, happens and choke points of information. That, then, is to shatters everything you basically create up to a shield against any sort of objective. Look at the information inside of the conspiracy by keeping between three people, real, you make it a small deal like guinea. J, F k, the secret service fighting over his
de when he's leaving, because we're see was happening in that moment network and that's when it move not cover ups happen very fat error as cigarettes, a yeah. The secret service is like do not let anyone examined this body because then they will find out. We accidentally killed. I then you look at him. They also, which is also a sword. Another size of this
right, this size of critical conspiracy. But again everybody knew
we were doing it by the way they they hid. That was instead of mc doing it out loud like the manhattan project. Did they just? Did it really
I am just gave money everywhere and just eve you touched any that I'm k, alter money, you're now and came down will, for example, of of scientists not to
insecurity seriously physicists richer.
Fine then once found a whole
in the security men surrounding las alimony, robotics to you that you found a hole in the security field in our stroll. Oh look, there's a whole series of our whole suggest for fun. He checked out of the base, snuck back
again through the hole and checked out again jazz
you wouldn't believe, whereas the been I was walking and find a hall
and then I was finally, I went through it all
I gather that ratsey refinement, complex ideas, simple explanation, simplify it and go back in the hall he
No, what I didn't know you were back through the gate need checked out again and
it was going around and around the circle until someone said, hey wait a minute. I don't want to tell you, but this is what I call mousing around. Have you seen any richard feynman, I should say, knew him explaining fire. You would like Richard feynman.
Does he entertained us boobs vacant, but he was come
clearly ignoring the fact that a paranoid trigger happy soldier could have very well
shot him in the head. Big in the EU is a foreign saboteur. These scientists are getting too casual man.
mousing around no you're fucking
dead mousing, rather like the deja? Oh no,
go fair means nuclear pile on the squash court in Chicago that had been a proof of concept,
that a nuclear weapon was possible before
everyone went to the trouble of building the towns and the factories and laboratories. Ok, but what fermi built on the squash corps was nothing compared to what the manhattan project constructed in the more baron parts of washington state at hanford site code named,
site w who come, and I know my way added death room some great now.
Why don't you let MR shit fuck pancake fun out of their assets,
w and hampered washington. Almost fifty thousand people, mostly brought up from the south, were hired by the dupont company to build the.
right, although very few of them knew what they were actually building some
it was a sandpaper factory. Yet that's like a real answer. While they says it papers, sandpaper factory, others who had to be fuckin absolute morons thought they were building F d ars winter palace sunset. Some of that I haven't been educating themselves on youtube cook o. In reality, though, hanford sight was, apart of general grove, scatter shot strategy, see the hamper
site in washington was charged with processing plutonium. Just in case plutonium was the elements needed to use a bomb
site. No bridge tennessee, meanwhile, was processing uranium. For the same reason, while sal
Meanwhile, was the central sight. It was tasked with constructing a practical bomb that could be dropped from an airplane to do,
troy, a german or japanese city should the need arise, sets the keys being able to be dropped from an airplane, because the first was the way they first got deposited the atomic bomb. Is that we'll put in ship and will float a ship? Cuz close?
to the fucking at the edge of the land like what measure as possible and then set it off, but apparently be like bad that before, because you make a bet.
like soon army is all there's like a lotta is
if you're going to wake up, godzilla know yeah speaking of which you guys can be like. Let me sleep, I'm snoozing here, absolutely speaking of which I got one word for you. Fukushima remember how much radiation that introduced in the ocean that we're still fucking dealing with and that's where the official season so good,
highlight radiation with my sure, none
solomos. The atomic bomb was nicknamed the gadget, probably because talking about the
on day and night would have been both the security risk and a bit of a bummer,
is given priority risk because they were really getting kind of like loose with yeah. Well to the point of a bee in them
hammer, the scientist working on the bomb knew exactly what sort of effects it would have,
There is no ignorance to be pleaded here. Ok, besides producing an expert,
version that would vaporize anyone caught in the blast. Scientist guess that any person
within a thousand yards of the explosion. Point would suffer severe psychological effects and alex supercool and cry
behold effects either known about honestly, I wouldn't like a bunch of incredible, holds walkin around I've. No, no I'll knock and imbued
fun if you or the whole, but also very difficult lazy. Currently one was the hulk it as a courtesy. I is very much a curse you originally, the hawk would come out at night.
the sound of one hand, not happy with that
there. It is
the sound of the movement of workers. In terms of a comic books that I'm here a very simple origin story yeah,
we're not talking incredible shit, we're talking melted, innerds, we're looking
body decomposing from the inside out before the affected victim even die. No wish I died for nice. They also knew
that the area would remain highly radioactive after the initial blast, slowly and silently, killing anyone
just happened to wander into the area. The other countries working on the atomic bomb never talked about radiation sickness book pick- and this was one of our most closely held secrets. Yapping is the fact that this thing is
make whatever land, as underneath this thing uninhabitable five hundred years about right, depending on which type you use each year, which I will miss you use, though it is certain elements of hot longer half lives. That's the whole point, a doctor strangelove, google for medium, do it, but then they also the anywhere how it explodes cause. That's the tricky part which is in order to make it so that we don't have to literally make sure no human lives your again and ass to explode above this site.
You're, not on the site. Well, now they poison our water with a bunch of other stuff. Do isn't that exciting, while the plutonium produced hampered will be used in the first two tonnes,
test, the uranium used in the first atomic bomb was produced you're, going to like this and been on site x, ye see as cool. It was still just a letter yeah, but it's still sight.
Say no exit ramp is a cool better. I was in oak ridge tennessee. They also. They say that a five man team event to me like vault, if a skate was in one line.
I don't blame ward
zaire or lost, or a razor blade? No, that's done men ruler knife. What site ex bore separate methods
producing uranium to thirty, five were being researched simultaneously. Each one costing hundreds of millions of dollars in the most effective process, however, involve the contraption called a cow neutron
which required a forty four acre mile long for
story, high plant that required hundreds of miles of air, tight piping, all welded together, just to make it work. While I think that was actually just put into the new omnibus
that's little humor that was into the deadly built,
The house bigger, were interesting when these call you trans were first built it you see
berkeley. They were only allowed to be used by men with phds, but with
the war on the exact physically warm, but with the war on the cow neutrons in oak ridge, were operated almost entirely by young women right out of the tennessee school system, and they did just fine rosy.
Women are still not to do it really the biggest risk with the cat.
mansplain that union
go and lambs plain the bob losing lady. All you gotta do is sit near a precious little chair. I make sure the Adams, those exhibit the zoo, brad or add, as you later get out here, nice bad woe was the forties. He was really the big
risk with the cow tron was that it involves huge magnets that were so strong that they would smile
the insides, your watches, if you got to close this of course, resulted in accidents on the worst end of it. A guy
walked into the room containing an act of magna while carrying a big steel.
Why did he get broken roger rabbit? What's this outside is no yeah. The magnitude, of course, immediately caught the plate in such a way that the guy carrying it got
Emily pulled across the floor again,
the maghreb, long ignored shoe, stood one of like turn out the goddamn agate drought, the magnet and been quite coldly and somewhat cinematic.
The scientists in charge said that the war was killing three hundred people per hour and if I
get down that magnet. It's gonna take days to re stabilize it. So you weigh the lives of thousands of people, verses that one man and besides he looked always like the guys find
he's gone down. Yeah the that guy was miles an hour. I just it look look he's just stop get some fuckin to buy food
and apply until another. We urge a fuckin idiot next. I did definitely see this being some comedians grandpa aperture no amused
incidents aside. It was obvious that the americans were fucking, kill and with the manhattan project, and we were the
We are doing so. The british had their own attempt going with pride.
tube alloy so dumb
we knew about the bad men had now god, but it was happening
our time getting off the ground due to the constant german bombing. Therefore, european scientists were getting funneled overtime,
america to work on the manhattan project, although none had quite, is big of an adventure get in here than famed. Danish physicist Niels bore creator of the atomic model. We still
Instead, I am a big dive, a difficult
do you see bore, was jewish
The nazis invaded denmark. He was one of eight thousand jews to be smuggled out of the country by the danish underground. Coup bore ended up in stockholm, unaware that the gestapo had ordered, bore in particular to be seized at all costs
bore, however, was not a man known for his discretion, nor his comments,
hence no society. In fact it was a small miracle, but Niels bore even survived childhood much less europe during world war, two meets this brain was for thinking not firm, doing stuff.
It doesn't all of us know in stockholm. Niels bore was unwilling or unable really to lie: low,
things were made even worse by the fact that Niels bore was easily recognised because his head
It was an orderly lord. I had a smart isle of history, mad as it is it just had to beg of added autonomy ploughed. I believe a minute I heard boris head is really good if you slice it than I am soothingly monopolize the entire meat industry and more many parts of this country, and I think it's a sub standard meat products we ve already got into the sites or is pleased that you agreed marcus vat bores has
four jabez said he. I do agree with you that it now I know I know I wish I could find a place where I could get sliced hand.
Was embarrassed. I only want either one. If lead me was a single thing we have to move on.
Everything that matters, because that is both income will bore, was also incapable.
Of shutting his mouth or remembering that he was actually in hiding. For example, whenever the phone in his stockholm hide out rang out lunge for the receiver before anyone could answer it and say god. This is born in science with icon, and so after only a few days, the swedes knew that, if bore state in stockholm he'd either be captured or killed by nazis before the week was,
so they arranged for borer to be sent to england via a stripped down fighter plane called a mosquito. No operations like this take a lot of instruction, especially for a civilian, but
or just YAP and YAP through all the instructions that were supposed to help him survive. I fear that there are many ways that a trombone can be played visit the nose. Look at me, everybody listen to this guy. The operation was became even more dangerous when, as it was discovered,
If they didn't have a helmet. That was big enough that it's really about that. Your head is now, but because board didn't listen. He didn't know that when the mosquito reached altitude, he was supposed to use an oxygen mask. Therefore, in mid babble, while they were going up in the air
or very suddenly pass? I'm sorry sphere that mental berlin that's a great way to fly all asleep pass out at the british crew thought they'd accidentally killed one of the most brilliant minds of the century so funny, but when they landed, boer, suddenly woke up, alert and chipper, saying that he just had the most wonderful nap, it's just nice to take a break. It is a bore, was extremely important to the allies, but not just because he was brilliant. He'd also been privy to extensive conversations,
vernon heisenberg about nuclear physics or, of course, how he had retained nothing because he was a fuck. An awful listener, but
it was like, but I remembered go you better be good at it now. I know that absolutely all bore could remember was that here
Heisenberg had talked about uranium vision and they talk
by the morality of researching nuclear reactions during wartime when it was certain that such research could be used to make
I can remember on whether her eyes were good to go talk to him about it basically said: hey, you should come. The germans are definitely gonna win. You should be working with the germans and mule bore was like. I will never work, I'm jewish.
right. It's not gonna work out alone, but even so, just based
These conversations bore was convinced that the nazis were actively working on an atomic bomb and he thought that this is big, fox news, but he showed up in england that I want every gas. Why aren't is this big sectors that you made a whole town so that you showed up in england there like guess what we are also working on an atomic weapons?
you're going alone is a no no you're goin to america and you're going to be
can on the manhattan brought while he's gonna miss all the full english breakfast that he could have had as practised in the fuckin world. Oh, but the trip to LOS Alamos was, of course, another fraught journey. He almost a
immediately forgot his codename on the train, ride to new mexico and haven't forgotten his name. He immediately began using his real name introducing himself as physicist neil Bortz, fuck yeah, no names, physicists gotta, give him a name that he'll remember something fruit related. What did he like nails me,
there. You are clearly said earlier now need also talk to anyone and everyone about nuclear fish. I've europe out of the bomb we really make it good headway, is absent minded. This was so chaotic that he kept accidently escaping the armed guard assigned to keep watch. Eventually, it got so bad that leslie groves himself had to travel out to escort bore the rest of the way. Pretty much just held onto his collar.
Shut the fuck up you're coming with me now, but perhaps boards greatest treasure was a drawing heisenberg. It
of a nazi heavy water nuclear reactor, born the rest of the scientists. They couldn't conclusively say that this reactor could be used to make a weapon what they did convince them
observe was the possibility that germany had learned enough about nuclear energy to produce dirty bombs.
Man dirty bombs. At this point, too, are almost I mean. Obviously, the atomic bomb is the biggest and worst of all of it, but dirty bombs, ain't, no slouch. No! No! You don't want to get messed around with by a dirty bomb. No no
You don't know what these bonds, which were mixed with radioactive material, they did not have the destroy
the power of regular bombs, but mainly
areas of effect deadly and
habitable. All the same day, white, what are you what's wrong with you? Your covered in mud, dirty bombs is really good well and scream
but without the one that you were thinking of, and then you about
in barney earlier whether you over there are these. Now a lot of people say I'm like Neil bore. You know it's true, create a big fuckin head,
I sleep on planes great supportive than the thought that the atomic bomb was kind of like well at least the first wave of energy wipe everybody out, quick
and then the radiation sickness will set in so they actually views. I won't leave the atomic bomb we kill. You up. Tat is
I wouldn't mind, be a nice with it. Now there was no effort
for german dirty bombs, but nevertheless manhattan project officials had secret nuclear defence systems installed in quite a few major american citys. They almost deployed teams of soldiers with geiger counters on d day in a scuffle plan called operation, peppermint siena, that's fine
marine peppermint. Yet they they shipped out geiger counters. They don't like that's what the bachelor brigades cover that one of the guys in the basle brigade was cuts. Good, that's was one of his jobs that he had to go and tried it.
Back every bomb, all meridian. Now. Why do you know that more burg try to kill voter rise of well we'll get to that next, that are so damned but of course ones. We,
I do think that may be. The germans might use dirty mom tactics. We started thinking about how we could do something
along the same lines, Elvis, maybe and of course, that deadened us even further as to what we could be capable of unleashing upon civilians.
at one point, oppenheimer and enrico fermi, enthusiastically discussed using the isotopes strontium ninety to poison jerk.
These food and water supplies in a pre emptive strike. Although oppenheimer wrote,
It wouldn't be worth it unless they could poison at least half a million people. This is a real plane. They really it was more of a they. They later said that, like it, was an academic exercise, but yeah nah there was in the manhattan project. Everything was an academic exercise that was extremely serious. Yes, all they gotta do is get Monsanto,
case than the monsanto was involved in the manhattan project. That's why
and the young don't like. Oh I get it will. These fears were, of course,
only made worse by nazi blustering nazi propaganda.
minister, Joseph durables, always that,
troublemaker. He announced
germany would soon unleash a revolutionary uranium torpedo on the ivy spread that uranium torpedo all over the chest
as we know, germany was nowhere close to such web, but the allies did know that they were on track
an atomic bomb by nineteen, forty five, they started work on it and nineteen forty two, it's crazy,
but they were working on the assumption that the nazis had been on a steady track of production, since nineteen thirty,
are there shit in themselves any day now, they're gonna have the weapon right now. Is love
grow saw it part of his job in constructing the bomb, was also actively prevent germany from getting the balkans. So he and his deputies came up with a plan to deploy their own intelligence units. May
of scientists and soldiers who could decipher documents and interrogate captured
scientists these guys were going behind enemy lines. Story
hide all of the secrets in hots. Hoss, there's no way the german can handle the huts. I think it's important will put it inside this case of salt.
Lastly withdrew visible but assault
it's a little bit said about now and we'll get horner. There's a there's, a there's, a general brought hot sauce. I actually have a right now from a buddy of mine who made it and since the studio, it's like a nice light, it's kind of a barbarian hot sauce, it's very tasty
it's a little bit of a medium range of forty to look at for it. They have it in the forties. When was it made, or do my time, traveler
now, my time trump. I don't. I just don't think of germans and hot us
neither maybe there's all they have hot sausages. Buddy
How are you calling me in the year are an angel with you? Why are you calling you just? Did a phone call talk about sausages later to people? Don't know that you're doing well will hear the story of the germ. Well, we hope. Will god dammit
We will hear
the story of the intelligence units that are made up of scientists and soldiers on the next episodic. Meanwhile, present rose
was starting to use stronger language when discussing the access power were gonna run up by nineteen
the three he was saying,
the only way the war would in was with the unconditional surrender of germany, italy and japan. Therefore, and can
tional surrender became official ally policy, and that word
conditional will become incredibly important by nineteen forty four: u s, forces on the pacific front room
can serious headway in taking in holding the small islands leading to Japan, which are crucial to establishing airforce basis to
japanese cities on the mainland cool, most crucial where the islands of cyprus, pan and tension sigh pan was taken first in a horrific,
bloody battle that resulted in the loss of three thousand americans and tens of thousands of japanese
is one of those things were you know you, you listen to Marcus talk about this subject. Should he likes him?
I find them interesting. He's doing that fats,
what is good for marvels. His intellect in his mind on reading urge I do I find it extraordinarily interesting yeah, but that they almost like you like the world that we live in
you enjoy the violence. I also enjoy
toby in size, which a star trek you start trick, is full of violence. Yeah, of course,.
It's also stone argues utopian by on earth. It's! U to everyone, seven, a great time back! Don't let wharf fucking controlled a goddamn control.
Even if everyone else died, they absolutely let wharf control everything in deep space. Nine. He became more of a commander. He got a lot more, but he wasn't the commander idea to work so much out of my sets out a nerd or lord are not me, cisco, still, commanded the defiant, but you know, but wharf did get a promotion when he was assigned deep space, not renege Cisco did the thumbs up
I don't know about twenty. Nine thousand of those japanese death had been soldiers who had refused to surrender under any circumstances, and that was pretty
the case for every single island the americans took. You would jima right, goddamn, there's a reason why we talk about you. Would you meant to this day? Well, it is true right that this was their emperor, was their got, so this would lead to
somewhat have an oversimplification irey richard five. They were very dedicated. They work still where I sat a fucking hour. They were not going to work on another render a note from these massive battles. They would have thousands upon thousands of coexistence, and you might cap you're like a dozen japanese solidarity, was also reflects form of myths. Chaos, data want to surrender and then we're like, but you have to you, could you yesterday and you'll with theirs?
gray grey in there as it goes because, as the warm goes on and people start going hungry and the king eventually that fever will
go away, they will begin to wear off. Yes, they got andean carling supernova, and these really does talk about. It's incredible build up a generally. It heavy heavy details all from the japanese per cent,
Any talk any as a great way of like explaining the japanese like that to explain the japanese mindset when it comes to warfare, you, it data visas, the japanese
just like anybody else, only move.
so you get them
Would anybody else? I actually
required measures. I have a question about your payment issues: deb marlon
giving altogether episodes. Why he's gaze by the bay walter,
they deserve the money. You are superior to show these isolated episode. I could give you he's. Also an old school guy
he's been due in part casting since two thousand and seven, I don't think he's ever shown the top of his head.
Yeah manheimer are very very similar because they are hat based, peep dat, collins, a happy guy. He is yup, he is but hey you know what more power to them. They got to listen to the episode. That's yeah, but that's the thing about CY pan is that fourteen thousand of those called
These fourteen thousand of those deaths in those were civilians. So many
If those civilians were accidentally burned to death in civilian shelters by marines, because the shelters looked almost identical to military bunkers and it was policy, or at least I get yeah, and it was policy to clear bunkers with flame throwers loaded with napalm fuel as quickly as possible, as just a way to clear a bunker. Is it hmm? Did they not like Karen
to really check. No because they would, if you open up a bunker- and you did not immediately attack the japanese soldiers as fast as you possibly could they would kill. You sent me the japanese, so the japanese were absolutely a in incredibly formidable enemy. No, I know I just feel like they could.
Get a couple of thousands are not very soon,
Civilians body complicate the american
say that it was justified or in that, of course, it is ad and of course had, but with its warm at that, and of course, this policy became much worse and vietnam when they started burning down entire villages, they sort of killing entire populations just but just in case they might and behind
Vietnam had come back and immediately by a microwave, get married have a jot. You mean like immediately immediately after all, our gave out illegal, but also this was dupont as well right, they're, the ones who created the flames, or was that you pont or j J or cat with eight out of your mother fuckers. I think it was a member of pork or bradley
If they did, they made the weegee, alter the point of them just common back and by microwaves and having families, and all that like when you talk about guys who took sci pan, they are in world war, two documentary
when you see soldiers talk about battles they been unlike their never
they're, just like air, you know we went down and how does he speedy was for a mundane out? I am glad when I was out excellent adds what he said: ass basted hat media but site pan rattled these days, and this is the reason why, as far as the rest of the people go as far as the rest of the japanese civilian casualties go numbers there,
but at least a thousand japanese civilians killed themselves in advance.
American military, because they were told that the americans were coming to rape. Torture cast
and murder, any japanese civilian. They found so
that can be subjected to what sounded like hell on earth? At least a thousand people
Ruth themselves from a perch,
now named suicide, cliff down to the jagged rocks below, so many jumped that the water
ran red with blood. What rattled the guys, what rattled these fuckin marines was that they had to sail through a sea of broken bodies, justin
at the show, feel we started killing them like literally we are we rolled
into watching them jump off a cliff and fucking like you and it's it's just a lot. It's really fucked up because yeah we we didn't do that the the rape, torture and castrate, but we will
sir John fire, will ease the red men and we held memorize. You in green gables doesn't go very fun. Ride me no, no, but with the
all of sight pan the war was effectively lost for the japanese and anyone with half a.
In the japanese military knew it site pan put beach
nine bombers within range of the japanese mainland- and it was from this point that america,
able to retake the philippines from Japan three months later after the philippines, where retaken it was only a matter of time. Sigh pan was also important. The battle ass, I am, is important because it changed the way the japanese population saw the war now
who's. The loss got around even though the japanese government tried to keep it under wraps and any
familiar with. The surrounding geography could see that if they had taken site,
pan. The american forces were pretty much on stop. In other words, many jobs
and he started seeing that Japan was going to lose and quite a few of them work
is sold on the idea of fighting the last man, woman and child as america.
leave them to be crystal again, also starving to yet saving on a full on embargo across the line. They can't
then you get anything earth and so get slowly, but surely fucks with the morale of a country. That's how you do it really one among what somebody safe sex that you raid you take up the food you take out all the production. It's the only way to do it. Then they can't make the stuff any more and they can't fight you anymore, but most. Consequently, the taking of sigh pan was the prelude to the tape
king of the island of tunisian. Here marines took the island, partly by using twenty four mechanized flame throwers affixed to what were called say,
ten tat, god is in man. You get me one satan tank coming in a lot of someone. I get a lot of stuff figured out by the next. That's the adventure wanted to kill. Those are no, but you ve heard what is our dear use? We call for the brand names under EU issues.
That's a fort, but you know it's interesting with the imf,
goes, civilians are always the ones on the front lines of the ones who get fucked over north korea is going through a similar thing right now. People are just dying in droves and its part of the strategy of like make em super hungry. They will overthrow their government, then I buy it, just got us or they don't get, but it just gonna sucks, because again it's just the civilians.
but now everything everything to readjust the fork? None, but
would a flame of the innovative. You have a lot of hot sauce, but after the album was taken, it was on tinian that the americans would build the largest airbase in the world. At the time from there, America would launch a little plane called the Enola gay, which would truly introduce hell on earth to the
many and how brave a was for playing to come out at that time period when the world was against, that it was named after his mother. His mother was named. Gay
she was a massive lesbian and it's with that hell on earth and the covert operations concerning the german atomic program that will return next week with part three of our series on the manhattan project. Again, don't worry we're going to get to the.
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