An examination of Navy Principles of War lecture by Vice Admiral David F. Emerson, 1963.
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This is jacobite gas number. Four ten, with echo channel
and me jocker willing good evening. I go good evening vice annual david.
F emerson was born in september of nineteen twenty six. He listed in the navy now
in forty four ways.
in the pacific theatre. Then, after the war, the nineteen,
forty six use appointed as a midshipman at that
Wes naval gaddafi
graduated nineteen fifty and became a naval aviator. He
once again went to war this time as a pilot in the car
in conflict and
after the korean war stayed in the navy kept flying
in a combat a third time during the vietnam war,
oh that's three wars: there,
his career, he was awarded the navy distant
wished service metal to lead
of merit with combat distinguishing device.
our service metal and the combat action ribbon.
in between wars, he held a bunch of different jobs in the navy
meaning officer educated
the way awarded a master of arts and government and gradually
from the naval war college, had a wife, three daughters. I
Did some research research about this guy couldn't find a ton I to find out? Why did isn't enlisted guy in world
or to find out what is job was couldn't find it, but I did find in this
what got me on the trail of him, I'd, I'd, read a document
long time ago
a lecture that he gave a nineteen sixty three about the principles of war,
the naval war college to the command and staff department and the notes
of this lecture. I think back in the day when it
give a lecture they would have the notin like he was poor,
their plan to publish them. Maybe it's it's like
are you can some some pod gas, they have you
order the notary or pay for the notes, or something like that. I think that they used a kind of
that with lectures. So I got the notes they're out there.
this lecture- and I think it's a good examination, of course not only the principles of war but the principles of life and the principles of human nature. So let's check out this right here, the princess
the war, a lecture delivered at the naval war college to the command and staff department on october, first, nineteen sixty three,
by lieutenant commander. David F emerson. U s! Maybe he starts off
my subject this morning is the principles of war and I'd like to begin by
categorizing war as a science and as an art
let us defined science as a body of systematic knowledge and art as skill in the apple
Cases of knowledge to the accomplishment of a concrete purpose,
when he goes on to say, however,
should caution you that any systematic body of knowledge of war must progress.
Some way before it can be characterized as a science, so assailant
their cholera. Besides, it's not a science. Is
Gotta get along way before they can really call to science and indeed
It has been said that the science of war is so
obscure and imperfect that it. So
foundations and support our
prejudice.
Informed by ignorance. I thought that was a great way of explaining the science of war. It's like your own,
national private brought your own personal prejudices about what you think
by your own ignorance that way to describe what the science of war is? You know when I got it when I want to pick up
me to read. You know kind of looking for
than that draws me, and you know remain something that says of this person, as it has a of fought a way of thinking.
that I'm interested in there's someone here. Somebody spiel a bunch of facts out here some angle, so
hurt, and when I read that- and you know a lot of times, if I, if I can't find something in two pages, we're not getting through it skipped getting leads getting deleted from the from the city center
So he has this prejudice confirmed by ignorance. So he goes on.
Talk about how do you
you choir this knowledge. You can do it through the study of history or you can do it through case studies and he said,
about studying history and studying history. We have to be careful of a few things. Obviously, we must be sure that the facts we study are correct and this is
not always so easy? Second, we
be wary of the prejudice
of writers, no manner
were made himself. Look bad in his memoirs, for instance,.
third, we must be careful in passing
judgment. It's one
thing to study a battle or campaign in the quiet of the war college, free from pressures with all at least most
of the facts of the situation in our possession. And it's quite another thing:
to make a decision in combat citizen
the think I this guy's got some. This guy's got some some deeper understanding
zack look. Do you can set to work out the details about decision you weren't in the field guinea
your ash shot up, you're sitting in it,
air conditioned office. Space flipping free through your textbook, come on we're the lunch break, but with a lunch
rick and he actually present practices, particularly the pressure of time. This is free from pressure and its as particularly the pressure of time so
like what's the biggest pressure time, what
the number one thing that I think around the leadership loop at a word about regional strategy and tactics, field manual, number one think time
the number one. I'm thinking about the first thing I think about,
and then he has. Finally, we should all remember that any man in a position to become a great failure has gone
that position only through many successes. Good point I had a body mine, he was a basque where an
he lost the state championship, he had the the free throw like he had, whatever a one on one free throw and they were down by one and he was about to just win this game and he missed it and it was a senior year, and so they didn't win the state championship and, I kind of said dude did you like
how bad the question he goes. Well, you know I scored a lot of points. You know he may squeezing what this guy's a like a man. You know
in that position for reason. So I get it
fast forward a little bit, and you can find this thing online, just look up for the pdf or something you could find fun read the whole thing. I'm not reading the whole thing wait! So, what's the what's the
message there behind a message there is like. Oh you look at this person that made a bad decision. You can remember that they made a bunch
good decisions to get to a point where they made one bad decision. Read it right and like it mattered, do you mean kind of a thing? Well, it's you're saying, like the guys, ninety nine to one write some
about leader. They got. They made good
visions ninety nine times in a row as a as
second lieutenant as a first lieutenant is a captain goin up two major league, lieutenant colonel carnal. Now
He's a judge made a bunch of you know, he's made some small but to make a great
massive mistake, you had to get in that position and it took a lot of good decisions to get there.
so you can just throw a guy out because he made a bad call. So it's almost like the opposite of that is like eight. If you make
stake if it's a if it ends up being a big one, you can
be in a position to make any got a big mistake? If you haven't read that you made a bunch of good good end work, can we find people area? It is, of course, Johnson is generally speaking if a guys
in a senior leadership position, especially like what
or to yet what do they fired? They fired generals like if they school
fired colonels, like all you did a good job on fire.
do that anymore toward to get fired in the military. Now they take carry
they don't take care the troops they take care of. The friggin guidance should be getting fired, so
I'm in a fast forward a little bit now down to the principles of war. First of all, what our principles
in the natural sciences. A principle is a statement of cause and effect
or of the relationship between cause and effect and is true
under all conditions.
A principle of war, on the other hand, is something different. It is an act
strapped now or phrase which epitomizes an idea so there's a big difference between a principle of science and the principle of war
principles of work, pyramids ideas, but do not give precise statements of cause and effect. Second, they are catchword
Here we have to watch ourselves because the human tendency to use catch
words or rules may
lawless away from thinking.
Some good advice or getting right there right now. Here's the role fall, the role and that you're wrote move.
Just do what the rule says. Maybe an into question
Neither teach my what my wife's habitual rule follower. I mean
you know, if there's a sign on
age or somethin, then says: don't go past this mark or what you have just random is no one on the beach. It's a sign from nineteen. Seventy, too, you know
this footprints everywhere.
We would like a passionate what we talked about, what it says we care about. We soccer
people over there by the way, there's other people that we just watch them walk by socialism.
A oral volor lies that I don't know. I don't know
some people have a more rebellious streak, I'm on the other end of the spectrum, yeah. That makes sense
I'm not quite you know some people that just do stuff just because it's just cause it's against the rules. Yeah, I'm not stare on it cause. That's just seems that. Can get ignorant right, but
there was a habitual rule follower. I gotta
pressure, you know when
I turned yellow like when you're driving right punching. It
That is what it says accelerate now my wife is like yellow light means all stop. What about like
written rules like here and I'm asking for reason, but that lets say: there's a right
turned in traffic time made in there's a right turn come up. Maybe half a mile
The lane for the right turn is bound by way of finding the right in the back of a land or ireland right outta, my blinker with aggression, the relay you know whatever handle the now listen, there's a move where that's like you're, not just
breaking the rules, but now you're like
the international right there's a there, isn't the thing that
you can do driving where
probably not the best example
the reason I ask for that exempt bullshit, because because you're absolutely right about that, if you're, just an asshole you're like who cares about like the road is here for me and you guys, we just sent my way: that's an asshole approach to driving hold on yup. It's! Yes, let me say this sometimes the reason there's a long line is because people don't know.
There's two lanes open or their like in their causing problems.
You know this where I drive every day, or something like this like going on
the five north from sea
I'll drive,
that's a situation,
It's a situation and I go to the to the
right lane of the light and then
in that light turns green. I punch it and I get over to the left, so I can make the left under the five north. This is a guarantee that people just don't know that this is the left goin back, it's back to pass the two lights prior
This people just don't know
by the way, but get on the highway is to wait. There's two lanes get on my way in europe.
Held up a bit.
as people don't know, yak disobeyed terms like a young, but my wife is ignored way, but is that really
breaking the rules not as a kind of broker on that one like she's she's, all about it. Now she read she's getting
you're just in the know, because a big part of driving even lines in general, like standing in line when you're standing there. A lot of that is just hey, I'm just following the crowd, a lot of yes, so unless you're like
while you are in the know, if you're in the know like no no there's an like at the airport, whatever that's another one, where it's like Brophy brothers, another light rate, this three people in there. Meanwhile you're standing here with fifty, you know kind of a thing- that's different! That's different! That's different! I won't like
hot flagrantly caught in the wine with someone. If there's like one line at the cash register, and that's it- I'm not gonna cut
but if the line goes around the corner and minutes
Putting the two lines in like people aren't seeing that I might go
there are others two lines- and I want to make some stuff happens
okay. So this is why I ask because I'm wondering about your wife now, what level is she at? Because I think there's some function to tell
all of this, but so what level share? Okay, so here's the ears example real, quick, so I'm gonna put in patch with make it. So if anyone zeal reason not last night
So if you know it knows about this part and is part of this and sorry, but this is this is the way it how we now it is not the first time it's a system. I am
an aggressive driver and I'm not an asshole driver at all at all at all at all, in fact the opposite, but at this particular time I know cause we go to this
can get patch more than more, more or less every year they with cool towards fund for the kids. Whenever sore going there,
this turn off the fifty two. Maybe this
thirty seven, I think mary turn off to wear the pumpkin bet
is during this time of night likely early evening, traffic jams and this
right turn is like backed up to like.
the freeway back done, backed up back to see
see the suck up jump in line
it's the kind where the right turn lane is the one this backed up, there's only one lane straight up, so you gotta going.
Otherwise, if you skip it, even if you miss the back of the line and you kind of dry pass, it knew you missed it, because there is a whole line there. So you either got a cut in front somebody or miss the turn right
So that's the end. I know this from years of going there and I know it's backed up,
I make the conscious decision to relocate weed
stan gaunt driving,
lane in Lyon
traffic mine, I'm just gonna, go right up to the front in just handle that
productions at that taxes are weak and edit this out of the park gas, because if my wife hears you saying that right there
you ve! Never she must not gonna like meaning
yeah. Ok! So that's why I'm asking like? Ok? What? If being,
let's find out if there was to lanes, which is entirely entirely possible, that there's it's actually a two lane exit, but people know this was to get off and there is a third half
operators in the right lane re right- that's different. That's different! I'm down with that cutting in like what you're talking about really it's
I am not super down right, so this is why I ask because I'm not down for that pretty much ever like I'm, like hey man, just follow rules like everybody else, is why this whole system works, because we all follow rules or whatever but
every once in a while can any exception be made. That's a question that that I'm asking around charles crew,
the overseas. You known america winners. I got you going from two lines into. One may emerge just automatic ultimate in america.
other countries did is hawk and caught based
hawk and caught like they're, not letting you and you gotta- be willing to sacrifice your bumper in your fender here. He has other country driving
flows, the flow of driving is different, their different budget. We support it.
He jail at times. You wanna, then bro sometimes is like no lines in the brother just flying through em like bright the end, the taxi germany's
companies is rolling right through friggin traffic cutting through this car, that car is different
That's what I'm saying, though, that kind of backs up what kind of what I'm saying where it's like hey. This is a system. You know we, you know the the less people follow rules, the more jammed up. The whole system gets so that system running smoothly kind of depends on anyone. Following these rules, even if they're kinda unwritten
and we allow for some fudge factor. You know, like a guy, miss lucy
leslie mid, like the for some eight hundred that line I missed it on acts only gus, I'm so sorry, I'm leaving to the guy that in my life working my wife wouldn't be mad at you for the rest of your life. You did that
that's what I did the most that flagrantly just caught people.
Cause. I know that's a system, so I kind of pre plan for it I'm going to act, cool, I'm sorry, you know whatever and just deal with the fallout, which is nothing by the way a person gets mad for ten seconds and then we're off to the pumpkin patch that everyone doesn't think. Like you bro, I know you crawl. I know you're right. I agree with how society starts with echo charles's, but you know what you are you're doing like little conniving driving, it's not even road rage,
little sneaking around yeah it's I don't. It doesn't feel like conniving because
just like these leaders that you're talking about to get in
that position where I can kind of justified to myself. I have this long history of uninterrupted. Just etiquette drive
It's simply saying, okay, so used to feel like you get a pass a little bit around a little bit once a year and can pumpkin better. If that's what it feels like you notice for real. If you're
for whatever reason we probably don't care carefree late for anything that is watching, but
if I happened to be weight or running late there.
every car is slow. Every stop.
it turns read like everything sock. So what do you do? I know I'm behaviour is always the same. No, I leave early
But let's say you look one in the trillion times that year were hiding somewhere, you're kind of late in the car, the slow and other stuff. What do you do I suck it I made early. I literally think to myself you. This is my fault and you have to deal with consequences. Europeans onerous through your good our eyes,
ring on you. Remember such thing as red sky at night sailors delight. This means a lot to some of us, but do you think any meteorologist makes his predictions by stepping up the door in looking at the core of the sky? Get us is like a catch.
I things he's remind you at a third characteristic of the
Its walls of war is that they are
Someone'S- and they are rather abstract assumptions at that forth,
Principles of war are neither
sacred nor immutable anyone
who ever wrote a list of principles of war, says that his list is it just from the fact that the
lists have changed. So much brings this viewpoint into question. As you will see, when I show you some of the lists of principles of war and how much they can vary.
There's a whole idea like this is a navy. Do there's a
theme in this talk based.
We- that the navy is like look- you can't just put rules out there-
but you can have some ideas, some some some principles, maybe guidelines
That's about it! That's kind of the navy attitude will get to that are going on
either there are some dangers of you
the principles of war
the dangers that they rest on assumptions
on the assumption that all wars are alike both as to cause objects and methods with area. This kind of crazy right in a second great danger- and this is probably the
greatest danger is that they lead to an a priori reasoning, a price
We recently deducing cod.
Quinces from principles assumed as self evident, and history
independently of factual observation obvious.
However, your first principle must be correct, basically,
like, oh you're, gonna, do this thing based on this principle, but the prince
well that your basing it on which you
you assume it self evident. You assume it's obvious, but it's actually just someone else's idea. You know what I mean. That's kind of messed up, so be careful of that.
And then he says, another danger of using these principles of war is that they tend to lead to over simplification. This is because they are catchwords.
easy to over, simplify it's easy to say: I've got mass. I've got security. I shall therefore win without serious
considering the situation
without really knowing what the situation is. You may think you have these things, but you haven't thought it out. So beware of oversimplify
over simplification. You heard the Mme mouth like a beats, abies b
cbt, cbt.
Lot of this in Mme
because there's a whole
slew of variables that you just don't know, what's going to happen, you just don't know and
If I bet on the u have see over the years.
I dont bet on the usa,
ro, I should say very rarely because occasion have still been like, but I theirs
couple times where I have bet not speak
you're gonna Yossi, but on mme in general?
I thought I was just like putting money in the bank.
Putting money in the bank dude and then just lost a been what we know
totally agree, I'm talking like guys that I trained with guys that I had insider info to get arrested for that now, let's, like wall street insider info cause, you know back in the day when moma we all knew each other like we were. We were probably probably
two degrees of separation from any? You have see fighter, certainly
back in the nineties pro
We too, maybe
Degrees of separation we had
lillian connections we had american connected. We are wrestling connection we sambo can't we had all kinds of connections, so you we're like
two three people away from just about every fighter that there was and I'm sure we could go down the list and I can be proven wrong, but it certainly seemed like a lot of fighters. We were connected to
I mean who camps that we knew p.
both from you, you get a whole camp that you
everybody in that camp and you get second word, and this guy's injured is got a bad. This he's good at this. That guy, like you,
find that stuff out a couple times. I found this
I thought I was gonna get the insider. If I don't have it
good insider stories. What I thought
I got the insider information on a bed, and I want now
Of that there is not happy I've had insider information and lost total upsets, told you didn't see it.
I it's kind of like the seal training kind of great, very, very similar, very similar to one never know yeah so
it's the way it is. You have these principles, but you can't put one hundred per cent faith in them because there's other things out there, like the dudes just got an iron chin or the dude
get crazy strength. He's got wicked. Flexibility always got up torn. You know,
Groin muscle, you know me,
like that kind of thing can have an impact
Then you find out he's got it. You confronted
turned toward growing muscle, but then you
to find out he's like a physical mean that doesn't care about paid. You didn't know that part z, but it gives him he doesn't care all right. Next,
another danger is that war cannot be fought mechanically by a book of rules. Here is a quote about the enemies of a great general
napoleon's opponents move their men on the chessboard according to the rules which they took, four immutable principles and the game
went on so long as their antagonists were also guided by them, but when the
adversary appeared who only awaited the development of their methodical. Moving
to play his own secret, profound
and decisive game. All equality
chances disappeared in the only variety in the result was the mode of defeat. So here's the rules. This is like what happened with enemy. You know like, oh you were you know, boxer versus boxer,
that's the fight, then it was boxer versus hoist. Gracie was that guy's name generous art, Jemison
I won boxing glove on it
I think in the interviews he's like well. How does this guy even touch me yeah, I'm going to jab him like. I am fast that I think that guy is a ranked boxer by the way, and
No one just ever change levels grab your legs.
Took you to the ground near that's what
we're talking about so thinking.
you're going to follow the rules now.
Goes on to say the key word here and we are when we have all noticed it immutable. I don't.
leave that a principle of war can be said to be immutable. Immutable
quality leads to inflexibility, here's a quote,
admiral see our brown at hearing
to one principle. Frequently demands violation of another
any leader who adheres to who
is inflexibly two. Once
of commandments, is invite.
The disastrous defeat from a resourceful opponent no sets an admiral to navy guy. That say that.
now there an yet another danger. This is that the principles of war can lead to a blindness to the real situation. They tend to lead people into preconceived ideas about what the situation
is by blindly following the principles of war rather than into considering
what the situation actually is- and this has happened frequently, oh yeah, this is when you you,
no look pattern. Recognition is great
It helps you, but if you start,
overlaying the pattern onto the situation and kind of making them
of what you see not
is actually happening. That's an issue! That's a big issue!
going on. However, there are some values to the principles of work, and what do you think that they're all wrong
the first value, is that they help to get us thinking about war. If we think about the principles of war, not merely
repeat them or memorize them, but think about them, this is good. We are thinking about. War
if we are continually testing them, seeing if they do apply?
testing, to see whether or not a principle applies in a historical situation, then we are thinking about war and we are thinking about the situation, so there
are some benefits, and it's nice to have a framework to look at
oh yeah. They should be doing this, but he could see a little outside of it.
Oh they're, doing that! That's what they're doing the princess
of war have one other value. They may help to keep us on the right track. Perhaps they at least help to keep us from getting off track. Okay, so that's good good information.
And then is going to fast border bit. He starts getting into some of the examples of of the principles of war around the world, the first one that starts with his son sue. We ve covered suu on his podcast. He said
talks about sun tzu having thirteen principles of forty sec. I couldn't find him and he goes through the thirteen there's. Thirteen chapters.
but he says, laying plans laid plans, not a principle of war. Classification of terrain is not here,
It's will for the army on the march is not a principle for the use of spies, not a principle of war. What he does come up with is the five essentials for victory, and these are some of the popular ones that you always hear quoted from sun tzu
he will win. Who knows when to fight and when not to fight that's accurate
He will win, who knows how to handle both superior, an inferior forces very act
he will win, whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all ranks. Watch out america
He will win, who prepared himself waits to take the enemy unprepared.
and in the last one he will win, who has military capacity and is not interfere,
with by the sovereign.
nope micromanage me, civilian dudes. You want me to win our when
I'll tell you when we're not,
I don't need your. I don't need you, president John
isn't calling over to vietnam telling us what targets to strike. We don't need you to do that. You want us to win, will win otherwise back off.
So there's onto the next, when he talks about
klaus wits- and you know we have covered classmates on on the pot, cast an eye. I guess I'm biased against classmates. To be honest with you, why beetle del heart, you know more about that, a more about that indirect
approach are more about that bh, the dalhart and, and the other reason I think in the beginning, it was because it's so so common so popular. I was like yeah, everybody kind of knows this, which you probably do at some point. I'm not that buys dickinson. There's always lessons to learn right sure. So, here's clausewitz for rules,
No major disagreement here use our entire forces with the utmost energy. Ok,
to treat our power as much as possible against the section where the chief blows are to be delivered and incur disadvantages elsewhere, its concentration of power which, by the way, prioritize next, you never waste time.
Surprise through swiftness and follow up our successes with utmost energy, and he goes
I say now. At this point, I would like to digress a little bit in.
When a langston lecture lecture, you were told them.
Auschwitz said that war was an extension of policy
by other means. This may
we'll be true, but I would like to pay
I doubt that sir Walter raleigh said that war is the failure of politics. I I must say that little bit more accurate right and now you get these freaking idiots in the government and they're ready to press the war, but
like in you know thirty seconds if they're like. Oh, we have a disagreement. Somebody else, let's attack them, but these are. These- are the idiots? Do your rates kind of
defeats, the purpose rate kind of thing.
Yeah. Well, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons why they make that move number one they make that move, because they do not have any kids that are going to war yeah, but like how you said like politics
is also they own a bunch of freakin military. You know defense companies were defeats for, like I said, oh like you, if you're here, if your job is, if
used to political, though the reasons politics exists this, so you don't have to go to work more.
right off so hey, look in either
on a personal person level like hey, listen, let's diplomatically, resolve this, you know, so we don't have to fight. Not me
If my diplomatic approaches to fight bread, kind of disease,
purpose of having a diplomatic purpose hundred percents, I'm saying so yeah man, so essentially, we've got gotta expect more out of these politic type people, politicians, you think yeah they they're terrible, terrible. Alright,
So there's there he had classmates. Now we get into bed
Storm and look I'm just not written, discuss whole speech, arms written some sections of it, but
Sorry, principles, gypsy, follow,
ten twelve put these principles are put the british
army field service regulations book in nineteen twenty they put these principles in their. These are also the basis for the: u s, army so as principles, but here's the british army principles of war, selection and maintenance of aims which, by
with its along wing of saying objective, so the selection and maintenance of aim. So I know what you're gonna do so pick out your aim, what you, what your objective, is and then keep going towards the same thing. Next one is often of action, could be an office next one, his administration, which, in
america, we call that logistics, cooperation concept of cooperation that is covered, move by the way concentration of forces to prioritize next to you, economy of effort, prioritize and execute flexibility. Yes, great thing to have surprise. Yes, great
have security. Yes, grating of maintenance of morale, so there's the british next coming.
U s army principles, there are nine of them and he says if you re rooms this list, you can form an acronym for remembering the army principles of war
This inaccurate, this acronym is moss, comes if you want to
member principles awards a good way? Perhaps, but I'm
not so sure you should memorize lists of principles. Scans got more of an open mind and you know what I'm saying the it's strange that some people have an open mind naturally, and some people have a closed mind. Naturally I mean you can hear Jordan peterson talk about this right, it's one of the components, the big five components. The psychology
So in the end, you know you meet people like this all the time.
People on all over the spectrum right here
So here's the? U S, army, principles of war and we've covered these before objective, and that's again the same as like make sure you know what your objective is: offense
of mass economy of force maneuver.
Unity of command security, surprise, simplicity,.
And we're going to get into some details if you're wondering like when he sings I'll meet will get into it. Next year of the year,
as air force principles of work. The air force takes a little bit of a different stand, general
Mere s fair child, who is the first commanding general of the air university, refuse
to allow blind acceptance of any principles of war. He later became vice chief
the air staff and this position still mean
we can't have principles as official doctrines, which would be followed.
Finally, he desired
a blind acceptance. He insisted that each principle has to be restarted.
Costly in terms of the situation, so he has more open. Might here's the? U s air force, principles of war, objective, a fat off
intensive cooperation concentration economy. Surprise, security, mobility, simplicity,
and are you to the? U s navy in rubber the guy? This writing this was at the time
can a commander. He ventured becomes natural.
Says the: u S, navy didn't have a list of principles of war until fairly recently, this written in nineteen sixty four.
In fact, as recently as nineteen fifty three, there was no official doctrine nor official publication, which propagated a list of
who s navy principles of war in nineteen. Fifty three,
early under the pressure of unification, admiral r, L connally, whose
president of the naval war college wrote a list of principles which he
published in the naval institute proceedings at a magazine
in his article. He said that under unification, it seemed
We are going to have a list of principles of war and submitted a suggested list. Now there
quite a few reasons why navies have never accepted lists of principles of war, for instance, here is a quote from a british general.
a few months after gallipoli, in which the british tried to
around the stalemate of the western front by applying see power and going to the flanks. He said,
the power and command of the sea are colossal assets, yet see powers, also a great seducer from the print principles of war, meaning you think you don't need to use em if you got legs
z, power, the army and navy approach of the principles of war or sorry
army and navy approach the principles of war differently. This. What
the army says about the principles of war quote. The prince
rules of war are fundamental. Truth govern
the prosecution of war, their proper, proper application.
Essential.
to the exercise of command and to successfully combat
of military operations, these principles?
are interrelated and dependent on the circumstances may tend to reinforce one another or to be in conflict. Consequently, the degree of application of any specific principle will vary with the situation, so,
They do recognise that there's dichotomy with some of these things. Theirs
decisions that you have to make, but they do com fundamental truth that govern the prosecution award,
there was a strong words here.
the navy says core principles of war war war
first formulated in era when the moving
the forces and logistic support were
operations, much more simple than they are in the twentieth century. They were intended originally as a guide to conduct land warfare.
The principles described briefly in this appendix do not agree with
standard list, either in number or titles rather there-
represent observations relating to principles of war, which appeared to be applicable in
some degree to naval warfare, so he's hagen,
he's gonna inside
times, there might be a possibility that this could have an impact
They are not listen any particular order, since relative importance will vary according to the nature of a given situation. These principles,
which are somewhat interdependent, are suggested
general guides useful,
or study rather does immutable doctrine or, as in
Will the laws guaranteed to produce definite results.
Since war is not a precise science, there is no standard formula for translating any set of principles into action, interpretation,
Adaptation must necessarily be made against the background of past successes or failures in war and in the light
the evolutionary nature of technology, naval doctrine and national policy- and this is what I find pretty shocking to this day- is people think they know.
In a giving those can happen.
you, don't know what can happen. This factor
Just like an enemy fight, there's factors: you cannot comprehend.
There's things that you don't understand and because of that, you're gonna have to make some
Decisions and when you make those decisions, those are gonna further impact, the variables that your facing so on paper
You know who wins
on paper who ones this guy or this guy? Oh well, it's gonna, be this guy he's got money. Well, you can't say that.
And by the way, that's an enemy,
while Mme has less
rules than boxing
emma. May has infinitely more wars than war,
war has no rules, virtually no rules.
When the number of rules and wars tiny so there's
many things that can happen by the way, guess what you can do breakers,
But what we can do like if europe, mme fight
and you pull out a knife in stab somebody in the neck you're going.
arrested you're going to jail the fight over? If you
in war.
and you're fighting another country in europe.
You're gonna use of chemical weapon and you kill.
What are they gonna do with your already out war, yet that
thought about that too, where you know how, like certain cunt,
We have certain rules for the way they do war and, like all this stuff right, but at the end the day does that
like. I said the rules don't matter and they really for real in real life do not matter
and this is why, because, if we
we're trying to win this war and then
This rogue element that does some some
inhumane stuff in some some stuff that that breaks the law, the laws of war or
the damage that they do to the other.
no matter how illegal still counts,
It counts towards your war effort. Yep in Mme, don't like, if you bring bus at a knife, stab them put it back. No one said to them: do they played the reply? Oh your wind does not count, doesn't count and you're disqualified.
Fuck you lose automatic in real work, doesn't work like that. The damage you do counts and the retaliation going account too
That was the rogue element over there. You again that roma.
Let's party or dig
watch this it all out. So we.
And when I say we, I mean america looks at these situations on paper all the time you're like yo, here's what can happen and its oh, what
while you're that will never happen again, I will never happen again. I was explaining when you go to see the vietnam war memorial. Hmm. Have you been to so it's a big giant v?
shaped wall, but when the beginning of the wall, when you start so, you walk you
along the one's got all the names, the black man. All the names are carved it. Well, when you walk as you get to it, you start looking
on the sidewalk and there's a little wall and his party, like six inches taller, got like whatever for names
keep walking and use. So it doesn't seem like that big of a deal and then you keep walking towards the towards the angle like the vortex of the v and as you as you walk. It gets taller and taller and taller so finding when you get to the main you know to where the two legs of the ve meet it's over your head and it's covered with names, and this is what happens with america and wars it's like starts off with. Like, oh there's, you know we present some weed
potent forces in the country they're not going to be engaged in combat they're, just advisers and one which has doing some logistical support. That is what is always a. I heard this on the news. The other day like this is not a combat deployment. Just two thousand soldiers
going over into the vicinity. They're not gonna, be actually in combat you're, like I've heard this before and then
look up and also your embroiled in another giant or that
What happened in vienna? So that's the end. We get.
lulled into it and by the way the whole thing of like, while they will, they actually attacked our guys workers were there, that's where they got attacked.
They want to got attacked, but who you know what politicians
Likewise to get attack was more and more
Where, on you know, I own a decent amount of stock in these various military industrial companies and they make
bullets and when we shoot bullets, those guys gonna make more bots way works.
Is it all like that? No sun all like that, but does that way I mean think of your own. Accompany right
They give you wanna a company you're nice guy echo charles echo, chose a pretty nice guy and
think if you made amber's and you are at the you're at the fair,
you're, the fair, you're selling hamburgers and
all of a sudden. There was like that, the other burger place they had like a little fire.
Now don't get in your life and you had a fire extinguisher.
You may or may not with this
I'd help them put their fire out. Now, listen you're!
got you probably ok, here's a forester, but let's say let's say that. Let's say that
other hamburger stand was like, where you couldn't really see him and you didn't know them
yeah and instead of just selling burgers for, like you, know, you're going to make an extra seven hundred bucks that day what if you were going to make seven hundred billion
or sorry? What's a seven hundred million new now fully dude
You might even be like hey, let's
put some matches over zooms out of money, people start to deal with,
no new, this lady and she was part owner of a satellite cell phone provider, service sold the cell phones and they sold plans with the self these
satellite phones, they work anywhere under all circumstances, kind of a thing- and I heard this freaking chick say:
for you know in regards to like sales like we need to boost our sales, all the stuff she's like shoot. You know what we need and,
natural disaster. That's all we need. She literally said that out
You may have that mindset wishing evil person it well
You serious enemy, but she's, a woman. She had like a. Why should a husband, jack here such as the norm, for some sure she has actually wants of numerous eighties we're and she's a ill.
Orders- if we just have a nice little hurricane, we need those sat phones or those self towers
knocked out brown bro.
So imagine if you could kind of like steer, thinks that spooky cause that's a lot of
things there, because that's what the thing is you gotta remember, there's like up this is:
like someone goes look I want to start a war. They don't do that, but but there
Reaction to, like others, turmoil the real
Instead of being my pay, maybe we should just like and in fact it's like there's church,
I'm while they could say hey, that's not really are business, that's not you!
can I stay out of there what they ve got going on it? So they go. You know we should help them
it's actually the exact right yeah? We should help them. Why should we help them? Well, I mean, let's at least give them the supplies that they need, what spices they need. They need bullets.
it milligram. Well, I do, but that's not what I'm saying we should help them just on the spirit. Ok, so you can't argue with that now again
when you look at the world and you go hey, there's places that need help right, but a classic exam,
was rwanda with Rwanda masker took place. I was off the coast on a ship,
see opportune that that
massacre was happening and we definitely could have gone in their ends.
stop it? We could have saved. I mean eight hundred thousand people got killed, we could have saved blood say we saved a thousand people right wouldn't go in. Why did we go in cars
Somalia just happened. Black hawk down just happened happened there like a we're, not send you guys in there
couple elements. Marine corps went in there with a couple of elements to like do a little bit of relief and they came right back out, so we had like a bad memory.
America had a bad memory
I really do you know
not really need none of that right now. So what
a whole. We got, but then you fast for ten years
same situation, some other, hey man. We could help those people out
at you? You know that what happened there was igniting ninety four nights.
Ethic was nineteen, eighty four, the rwanda and,
I caught down and happened nine feet so better. If it was like ninety seven a few more years, I bet we will got it done something to help them, but we didn't.
So there's all these little factors when people are making decisions in one of those factors have little bit the back of her head
wait, looking at some of them are sure, are evil they're, just like let's go to war and I'll make more money. Some of them are just like. Well, you know is the right thing to do.
We defend their you, don't whatever the cause, and we can help in this
in turmoil. We should at least make sure you don't like that's what we do as little something in the back of their head. Making that decision yeah the money piece is like hard to ignore as being a factor.
It lawns in individuals, decision making. Oh yeah, give some conflict. We certainly remember blood. You ever watch the movie
diamond. Were you like you, use, explain in what areas like so they're, not there
starting wars from money, but they find
self in a situation where it pays to keep it going so
It's like one of their things, so it's like. I don't have to actively do anything, but at the same time I don't have to- or I don't want to actively do anything to stop it, because it kind of pays to
become a kind of a thing like men. How hard is it ignore that, as a factor its prior to the same thing with like you,
like pharmaceuticals and stuff like if you have like type two diabetes?
he's the medication or something
and they say this all the time where it's like hey, they don't want you to be healthy. They want you to come back for the you know February. It's that's a great example.
Do you really want that person to go on a key lex.
workin out, as you can reverse that I am not a medical doctor, but I know people reverse type, two diabetes by
going on a strict like cato genetic die.
animals are to work out an exercise and they go big, become new.
longer type two diabetic that happens to desert
the insulin do you want that happened now, helma so they're like
when you're leaving the doktor there like hey here's, a cookie
this is a cookie and another another prescription for four insolent. Isn't it
Is that how, when you leave the doktor as a kid, even they give you a lollipop,
crazy right like something that literally make you less healthy as you leave the doktor, they give it to you when you leave echoes demon
alright. So that's what we're dealing with here, yeah, the first principle of war, should be avoided. Yeah bruce Lee right the art of fighting without fighting art of fighting without fighting, but these guys are idiots
so there first principle of war is also one that gets left out all the time.
active this elisa? U s! Navy principles of or objective morale, simplicity, control, offensive exploitation,
billowy concentration economy, surprise, security and readiness.
And there were a jump into those a little bit deeper, but for for comparison he says, let's say
look at the russian principles of war.
And here they are- and I wasn't companies but you'll, see why had to russia
principles of war advance,
consolidation offensive.
bind arms cod
Contrition economy of force.
maneuver and initiative surprise,
and deception
quit reserves morale.
And annihilation, so there you go. They have,
above all, that's called annihilation that
should make everybody. You know say: oh I don't know like arm.
Paul Harris the enemy fighter, Paul Harrison earlier
because he would annihilate people's needs with a huge here. Am I wrong
you're, not dude! He got kicked out of you see forever because he did
let go of hugh hawks here
the principle of annihilation bicarbonate get you ever hurt you so logic as I do not want to fight this guy. So
at that you see the principles of wars, annihilation, people, look at russia like dude, I dunno. If we did into this, I dunno. If I want that beef all right
They go to the global, deeper dive. The first one is objective. Here's what admiral brown says about the objective vehicle
active is unquestionably the most important of all principles of war is the connecting link,
which alone can import coherence to war without the objective, all other principles are pointless.
Gives the commander the what the other principles are guides in how so this is a really good
and to think about your life, you need to know where you're going to need
know what you're unified strategic goal, as you gotta figure out, where you're going at me in your team, you gotta
you're out what is, I was just
board meeting yesterday with one of the companies, I'm on the board of and
we're. Having a great conversation.
and all of a sudden. I realise that we're than this the who
conversation with splintering in a couple different directions and I I said, hold on a second: what what is the objective.
I don't like what is what like what? Why would you make that decision? Why would you make this decision? Why would you make that is what is the ultimate goal? What is our own
the object, objective and applique was to know the white board and put like a thing at the top of the like. What is we're trying to get done? What do you guys want to do and then they put it out
there is now we can start to see how these different decisions will lead to this objective. If we don't know, if the objective is, we really can make decisions so great
thing to think about in everything that you're trying to do in your life, and I, like with Britain
right as the aim and the maintenance, because people get sidetracked right
we're like. Oh, I want to achieve this goal, but then they get distracted, they're trying to do something else then tried to jump now so that they just need to figure
Well, you're objective is indeed try. Maintaining now
I will say this sometimes gotta gesture, all this, be it through the heart
alex. Sometimes your objective needs to change. You look round
We, like oh yeah, this this else, that's ok to, but
You need to be conscious of it. That's the main thing people go.
To a zombie like slumber. Maneuver
through the world without knowing whether actually going
did you change we're going? That's fine, but you should be aware of that
Ex principle we will take up is the principle of morale.
We all have our own idea of what morale is I'll. Give you the definition, morale.
Is the general spirit or state of mind of an individual or a group of individuals, as reflected in behavior under various conditions. Important to keep morale up doesn't really talk about in the speech. How to do it? That's on the commander's. I guess, but you might want to get some wins.
But when you give ownership is ways you can help out with morocco. Little wins but wins go a long way
the winds go a long way that that hurt.
during a wrestling tournament, well, it's good.
Depending on who you are or if your number one seed guess
your first matches against the number sixty four
seed go mark somebody,
like the number one seat, seed, interesting tournament.
It's a number sixty four like in a high school tournament, the number sixty four she doesn't know what he's doing yeah he's going to get marked. Why? I wonder why they do the lake to day basis
We carve out easier paths for the people that are highly seated cousin track if you're like the finals they base it on kind of like that, that's it
it's different, but ass, more or less the same where, if you're seated like number one, you get your first choice of lean around there
I mean less of a factor has track. The lane is less effective than who your first matches big deal. But what about those like college track tournaments when there's
We have to do multiple races to get through an they do. Any links to write
when multiple races to get to the final finals, yeah yeah. But it's not just the rack and stack that thing too yeah. So if you- and it depends on the thing I dunno
they do it in a limp ex, but if they do like hope, we did they go. Whoever had the best time zone.
Let's say one hundred meter dash yea exactly so so
If you get the best time you get in the next year or next, he
get number one pick up your lane.
Same deal on them on the semifinals c deal on the final. So, if you're, the best attic number one check
so when I was going to say about that is those little winds. You have good morale gone into the final year of other people got some.
ashley morales going down, so people quit wrestling like I'm done with this pays to be a winner. Aka has to be a winner. You ever heard that thing about, if you put like a
They put two rats in a tube,
they have to fight each other, and
like the one that wins has like a seventy percent chance or I dunno what the numbers, but a massive percent more chance of winning. You see that with little kids, yeah fully contribute to tournaments that kid wins. They get all amped.
next principle is simplicity. Simplicity is clarity
We need simplicity, implants, strategy, weapons and command
one man should serve one master, the nature,
Simplicity is relative. However, what is simple, free
well trained force may be very complex for poorly trained force. We should
avoid over simplification at the expense of accuracy, completeness completeness and flexibility?
There is such a thing is being too simple:
so as to why we rather book the dichotomy of leadership was one of those one's work. Whenever
I wrote down the four laws of combat leadership that you can read about in any of my books. I made those up from what I experienced. I didn't die
into history and look through the sea. Otherwise, out of maybe
driven by some of these things. That will really renault simple
was my own now I'd
heard, keep it simple, stupid and seal teams like there's a cover, move, I'd, heard
civically amasine made these things up. When I
put them down, what was gonna be important. I, after a like a few months time, I'm teaching the stuff to everyone, but I need to make
that these are good principles. I know they work for what we're doing and sure enough simplicity
every one of these less is always almost always on principles of worth keeping simple. So that's a fact. Next, up before
principle is that of control in the? U s navy control, which replaces cooperation, coordination and command from
in other less of the principles of war is composed
four elements command an organisation in which the chain of command responsible is thoroughly defined. If
communications to serve command
training and indoctrination and professionally competent leadership. So that's what they mean by control. There's animal communication they're talk about having a good christian command there,
can show that everyone understands the making sure that he's got well trained. That's a lot of things to be covered by command. Next principle is the principle of the offensive
the offensive is the act of seeking to obtain control not previously held navy doctrine states that victory
can never be won by passive defence, only
stained. Often offers of action bring success. Check
our days, a lot easier to defend the news to attack in law
the cases, but none of these things are immutable.
yeah we want to be on the office. Are their time.
We're being on defence works better yup, no doubt about it, don't mean
Look at mohammed ali do not rope adopt my defence
seven rounds, and these will crack. You know you don't say
Where is wearing you out,
there are times when this is the opposite
the time, I want to keep my opponent guessing most of the time
some of the time I want to see what their got we'll make adjustments again its point to be aware of these things.
If you're not thinking about these things, then you,
I'd, be doing something like a zombie right, you're going
through and you're doing what you're doing without thinking of being aware of what's happening. That's a problem going through the motions is a problem when it comes to leading a too
but all this is just where we're going. No, where are we going, and is this
best way to get there the sick,
principle is exploitation. Exploitation is follow,
up success, it is
closely, allied to the principle of offensive and the principle of soup
eyes and its closely socio with momentum, also plans
Operation must be flexible enough to take advantage of local successes. Are situations order, fought and actually just f? Why the the part
This speech that I'm not reading has given you gives historical cases in this particular case as an example of failure to follow this principle
Failure of union general need after gettysburg, he defeated lee at gettysburg.
didn't follow up, some of them
when a story and say that he never had chanced to follow up. The point is that he never seriously tried to. He left.
Sport much too late to chase Lee scenario? I just came back from gettysburg and.
Bro ask in general,
aid and the union forces to go in chase after they just had this complete? Not a blood bath is asking a lot. Their bro mobility.
Is the next principle? Mobility implies rapidity, plus flexibility, plus endurance, don't
confused mobility with speed, because mobility has all
so the element of endurance insurance is achieved through logistical support for the navy.
Only replaces maneuver, which is essential.
A tactical term and movement
which is essentially a strategic terms.
Goods, endurance, gotta, gabriele, to move. I agree with this. One gonna build move your mind, your brain,
Guy build it got a bill to see things from a different perspective. You
to be able to maneuver your way of thinking the eighth principle?
concentration, concentration, implies superior force at the defensive point or start com.
Tracing implies superior force at the decisive point at the proper time, incidentally, you'll notice, the word implies, we can't say equals, because these aren't
poles of natural science, and we cannot say that there is any mathematical proportion to be found in these principles. Constantly
and is used in the navy instead of mass or superiority because of its content, connotation of dissent.
sickness in time and space. This is all
Oh concentration. Is this priority
next year cause you have a lot of things going on the battlefield, any you like. Ok, this thing we need to focus on this.
We need to put our forces, that's what concentrations and it also
good economy cause I can't spread amongst plus, I need is what I can now.
for the right thing right reasons.
Economy is the next principle. Economy implies an echo
michael use of forces and a judicious expenditure of resources in order to achieve maximum efforts. What that means is that we can
be strong everywhere. We must be
in some places, but we can't be strong in all places again. Prioritize prioritizing execute the tenth principle is surprise
Surprise is confrontation of the enemy with force. He is not prepared to meet fair enough. Classmates was enamored
surprise and of course, many battles have been won through its use, but surprise can be intoxicating.
one may get so wrapped up in the contemplation of what his surprise will do to the enemy.
You will be surprised himself in the meantime. It is interesting you could think of every one of these things works in jujitsu. You know what I mean like economy like saving your energy. Surprise, obvious.
Surprise can be achieved through originality, audacity, speed, secrecy, concealment or deception. All those working judges. By the way I dont forget that the principle of experts
aviation is closely allied to the principle of surprise, be prepared to follow up sure enough.
The next prince boys, security,
surety implies anticipating and minimizing unproductive loss resulting from enemy action. So one of the weirdest. This is the one that I was coming
Ok, so I'm regarding security implies anticipating and minimizing unproductive loss resulting from any action. So you do want the enemy.
Do things a you, joshua secure?
it gives us freedom of action, but we can't be secure everywhere. We have to use force economically.
and it is well to remember that some time security can be achieved better by offensive measures than by defensive measures. Here. Aren't, I think, is that, once long stuff to think about
one or or let me see, let me rephrase that a lot of stuff cover security me it's just too obvious. Yeah I mean
the idea of keeping things and yourselves safe. Like that security, you know
It's like hey, don't do some, you know what and it's
this basically like, sometimes a good orphans or a good events.
Is a good offence, is so keep
in yourselves safe. Isn't this like a big political,
you meant to rate where it's like, hey keeping you sell safe, isn't, you know,
looking up all the doors in
Hopefully no one will get you it's to be caught the capability to actively keep yourselves.
It's kind of a proactive patrol. Your neighborhood, yes or safety, is the idea of safety at sea, but
If this is the idea of being safe, you don't always to keep.
Self overall, save doesn't necessarily mean defence seems
I guess that's what you mean. I brought you under community ginger example of security. I guess it would be like keep your elbows in yea and you,
this too, like you know like if someone gets mount.
You like it mount on you you're the the differ.
Keeping yourselves safe while you're in mountain is like this love,
from approaches, depending on what they're doing you know Sophie. If I'm there
Established position also trying to go for your arms you're gonna keep your elbows, meaning that defence of safety, but if you
we stand now. If you don't wanna stay amount for ten minutes, you better start doing something else kind of.
I think so. There's different approaches to quote unquote safety more in this case security is what he said and that's what I got from it there you will take it napoleon had
this to say about security. A great captain ought to say to himself several times a day if the enemy appears in front on my right or on my left, how shall I act if he finds himself in one
of answers. He's your paper I used to later.
Really tell guys this, like you're out on patrol every step, you take back or forgive tact over there. I see a ravine over there we can get into
We can get the high ground right over there if we get hit right here. If we get here from the left, I can do this. You should be thinking
that's all it's I'm just contingency planning in your head as a leader.
on offshore and as everybody else, John S or even if you talk about it,
The idea of safety or security safety. So body are
for example, when I'm going off of what you guys have been saying for years. Body armor, it's like heavy axes might have been jody minnick, I'm not sure anyway, body armor is like
okay, it's way heavier or a bunch of bullets, actions better right where you, where you have too many bullets, that kind of limits. Your mobility limits, your endurance, all this stuff, so you're more and more mobile with less bullets, but at the same time the more bullets you have, the more you can shoot, people
like that balance like, depending on what you doing you know, but either way the idea of security or safety has to factor in to your decision. Making kind of a thing
It's not something that you're. Just not going to think about is what I'm saying. So, that's lamps! That's what it seems like why it seems like
Included down- and those are great examples, because you know when they talk,
but the dichotomy, that's a great dichotomy. Do we want to have fire power,
and longevity endurance. Or do you want to build a move,
cause you don't get so heavy do decide to move but
You can also run out of bullets.
I don't want to be running out of bullets, but you don't want to not be able to move. So what are we going to do find that balance kind of analyze? What
should consist of.
Are we as Hell we're making decisions here are the last principle is readiness
There are five types of readiness, command, readiness, intelligence, readiness, personnel, readiness plans rating
and logistics readiness.
Command. Readiness requires an adequate organization, a train staff and leaders fair enough
intelligence rightness, implies an intelligent structure in being organised and fund.
Running before hostilities, comments and maintained. Afterward young,
we held a gathering, intel personnel readiness
prizes in part, training programmes and personal replacement plants.
plans, readiness implies the availability of plans for anticipated operations. Finally, logistics rightness means that we have with
six support ready. We know how we are going to employ it and we have tested our plans for logistic feasibility ability. Will I mean you once again that can light
you better? Be thinking about that stuff, I guess I guess that's why it's in here it's a principle, because you you'd better be thinking about these things, because if you're not you're going to get jacked now he gets we're getting towards the end of this. Now now what have I
Hold you in this lecture. I hope I got these points across first, that the principles of
War are not a substitute for logical analysis, common sense, broad professional judgment and good leadership.
okay. So everyone lesser that, second, that you can't fight wars by a book of
rules and that reliance on the principles or on just one of them can get you into trouble, both napoleon and hitler
observed every one of the principles of war.
Invasions of russia. Obviously they both did not achieve their goals. A british.
said referring to the principles of war.
by themselves. They will not help us
in order to solve a problem of war, any more
Then a knowledge of the principles of painting will, without steady practice and natural aptitude, enable an artist to paint a picture. That's a great a great way of laying this out. You know you can watch a youtube video on how to paint something you can watch it on how to do a free, throw you can watch them how to play a guitar.
Lord g cord see cord beyond that. Ukulele. You can look at a youtube. You can watch it. You can watch it fifty times
fifty times and how to do this court. You still
You won't be able to do it at first you're going to have to try it and you're going to have to drill it.
And that's the way life? It's you gotta, try things! You gonna work out a swell gymnastics stupid. So if you
if you watch youtube video of a girl doing a double puncture,
flip king twist.
The landing and she walks. He threw it hey. This
They did ray, you run you dumb twist here in the dollar stuff can just jungle
The man, yes to master classic
some of that kind of stuff. What's like their tea
you sports on master cross.
Four and you're gonna get tips, but if you
watch, serena Williams, yeah
teach you how to serve
in tennis or master crazy, different,
you're not ready for world
No, you know the analysis if you play a: u watcher, newgate
points you like. Ok, I could do that
Frankly, with my mask russia, you watch that thing. You can get points, but if you think you're gonna roll out of that and you ok
good gonna, know no use same thing.
You gotta, actually go and interact with people. You gotta, keep in mind. You have been told people like if I'm
if I'm learning to be a leader from a new leader and I'm going to me
with echo charles you're, my subordinate,
and I have been a lot of these one on one meetings- can actually make some preparatory notes for myself, like don't
You know I got real emotional guy he's kind of a hot head, don't get drawn into that
make sure my ego stays in check, but still make
sure I cover some of the shortfalls he has book now, but to go in
and a mature get through this, and when I get done, I'm like do life
I totally got emotional. I got defensive. I didn't finish my lit, like you got it right stuff. There,
and you're gonna make efforts when you actually do it leadership. You practice at you,
so obvious, so obvious, like it in the seal teams, when a guy's, a new leader, the they can't see what's happening when you
experience later, just look around, I answer was happening. So yes,
though this is the way it is those rope laser so valuable in that way. Where covered the union too,
like a poor or class or watch youtube, instructional of something that you ve already done a bunch of times and so
Its essentially you have x, you have knowledge through experience. Only
something in racy youtube. Video, explaining it out on paper,
and you learn it way quicker because you motor oil yeah, you get better at awake or deadlines, because you know the economy
it's part of it already, and then they just basically align all your pieces to be like okay, this is kind of correct form or whatever you already have. The experience that you can eat like anything like this whole menu.
It really is like this framework that you can just start with and be like hey. If you just followed this framework, you'd be pretty solid, good place to start exactly right and you can the more experience you have, the more knowledge you have, the better chronicle you get at this, the more you can start to deviate from that framework. When you see fit right, that's essentially how it goes and how effective
you can be no matter how much debate or don't deviate is didn't, determines how good you
I think, that's been huge in not jujitsu
dear colleagues, because back in the day,
You can watch a video, but do you have
no basis,
framework now.
We've talked about this on the underground podcast. When people say hey, I live such and such a place to close schools an hour away. What should I do? I cannot, I can only go there once a week. What should I do?
yep, go there once a week and then get a body, and do you
two videos, are god, be dj fanatics or go to one of these online training things because you have the founding.
Just like a little framework, can actually build on it.
Dean lister teaches, albeit like, if team,
just gonna teach how to break open, someone's grip in our mark. If you are the figures,
A three budgetary year knock and understand anything that just happened and
the exact same class. A blue belt will be like. Oh, this is awesome I'll, be able to use this, and a proper will use that in his next role for real life.
roll it right in their fully in there
and that's that's one of the main, here's what you just such good examples in this life,
learning process in a lot of stuff the ice
because you know how it feels to be in that position. So now you can more accurately assess how
This new knowledge is gonna rolling in practice in on that's really what it's all about. At the end of the day, no matter how much you learned or didn't, learn or no matter
but you learned on paper video and by experience it's, how are you going to perform in the owner in the end
experience and the performance and look, you will be better like why
Jim, like I said, Serena Williams. If your tennis player navy
Never play danced before. It's probably not gonna be hugely beneficial, but if you're attend
player and she
start saying hey, make sure on your forehand, you do this, you, oh ok. I could probably do that or on this approach shot.
Or your back like she can give you legitimate pointers,
If you have some sort of framework now look, she could probably give you some strategy that you can understand pretty easily whether you played or not right. She could be like. Oh in this situation. You should use them like this and say,
They with these videos nowadays, like back in the day, was kind of a judge. It was actually no kind of it was a joke back in the
It would be like oh lack I've learned due to on video. It was a joke at now.
People like oh yeah, I learned this rum whatever
Gordon Ryan's instruction online course he's in there.
With a agenda shin you so tat, I met gordon ran a few weeks ago. He's he's a big dude
Yeah he's big supervisor before, but I was ikea. He's a big dude, Joe moss church was I
You gotta, do you gonna? Do a he's been
whilst trying to get you to do so
match against corn rhino, my Joe Gabriel about me.
Gordon wrangle bowling, preferably a solid
yeah, but people learn
directly from video. Now,
They have a fundamental framework back in the day in the nineties. No one had framework
wasn't even their other. Maybe what
you see, but even that everything going our standard
there's. Some people have a knack for somebody
back to just learn and create like dean, lists, heed and create things. That's the next level
yeah? We ate things from what exists already yeah, that that
we work in that in the b
in the experience?
the scenario like regions ghost and symbolic premature,
even plumbing is like this, where it's like. Okay, you have the diagram and you get okay. This is the move you gotta make in this clinical diagram. If you don't have,
any experience in it, like you, don't even know how it feels to be in that position like all these.
stern. All things that are not part of this demonstration are part of this lesson, all the extra things that exists when you're in the situation like art there. So you mine, can't like
you don't think you can attach the lesson. Anything there's no
scaffolding, there's no framework yeah attach it it's just an arbitrary or lessen, no contact us like also like with history but dear caprice heap. He can take little things. Could there
in this context that he has in his mind, from reading all these books over all this time said when he learned a new fact that, like fits right into a spy in here- and you can tell to every once in a while because he'll be like you know, it's not
you're, comparing them to the mayans. You know, and there may be there will be going to do about everything like europe. We are seeing they like it's like common knowledge, but he has a framework already established so obvious you in his youth context. So though,
are things to think about what ever
you are trying to do you have to try and do it.
Can't whether its leadership weathers play guitar, ukulele or jujitsu. You can
take away some knowledge from observing and from reading and from listening, but you gotta go to do it,
Otherwise, you're not gonna, get anywhere.
And then he goes on to say it's actually cow
causes the sound. He goes on to say every critic knows the principles of painting, but very few of them can paint. There's no substitute,
facing each situation and dealing with it as it actually is right
Then, as you would like to see it in terms of the principles of war, some important, it's so important.
to have the framework and then like a race it and look at the real problem right. It's so
and to have the framework, as happens in fights, so
you have a game plan and something will happen that will disrupt the game plan and in year they loose.
Because they had their framework already in mind and they don't doubt I remember. Dean was in a fight and I was cornering him and
do? You know? Dean's half guard like halfgar, come up on a single rate,
in this was late in his career.
it was one of his moves. It is used
really hard to stop what he does that, but you can't stop him
especially if you know what he's doing, especially if you anticipate especially viewed, sat down with your coaches and figured out a good way to stop, it then tested it a bunch. So dean is in this fight and he's in
he's in his most one of his most common positions, bottom half guard
come up on a single is really about asia and the dude
stopping in africa
go back and austerity she's doing some with his hair. Please put his hand ass. He was stopping it.
and I was like being the guy. Has he
He has your half guard. What is it like? Hey he has it pegged. I was told to go full guard. He didn't when the fight, unfortunately, but the guy had pegged his hat,
guard and dean, which was surprising. I think dean had been so effective with us for so many years that when it got stopped, was he couldn't he
like make. An unlucky to fight is getting worse and head there,
time limit if
would gone one more round? Ok, cool but those
and you gotta watch out for it- you gotta watch out for preconceived notions of what you think things are going to be and how you think they're going to go down so really
This is why we're talking so much lately about having an open mind cause my idea.
That my half guard is great and I can come up on a single would just about anybody. That's
preconceived notion.
it closes my mind to believe that after
my mind. I want somebody stops at twice the mai
and should be fully opened like okay. This guy has a he has me pegged and I'm going to adapt. I'm going to change so so
having an open, mind too
things as a book says, deal with it
It actually is, rather than as you would like it to be that
is a life mode
operating that will help
infinitely as
posed to. I think
things are a certain way. Therefore, in my mouth
and they are that way there not, and then it says finally.
If there is a real principle of war, it is the principle of the objective. The objective means more than all the rest, and this is again
already talked about it, but this is like going through life without
actually knowing what your objectives
actually knowing where you're going you're not going to get there. So you have,
above all else know what it is that you are.
Trying to accomplish any calls out this speech. With this line.
he says. If there's anything, I can leave you with it. Is this rules? Can it
aid, the wise, but there
snares for the fool gotta known to break the rules,
I this is something a lot you gotta know the rules.
you got, another was, and you gotta be competent and proficient with the rules, and then
you can break them and you gotta know when to break them. So let's get stuff in here.
these fundamental rules sure their principles for war, but if you think about them- and you put them from my- they can guide your journey, the rules can guide you journey, but don't let them snare, you gotta, keep,
no promise. You know I haven't seen open my lately, no one, I used to say- and I used to say it a lot on this podcast free, your mind, free, remember those days,
yes, I think, because keeping free your mind, I dont think was transit.
the people the way I wanted it to
open. Your mind seems to people seem to understand what I mean more than when I say free your mind like free your mind. Think people
oh, just just be wild. Basically, for your mind, I sound like a heavy price
little bit even open. Your mind sounds like, although hippies aid, more
I don't think so, but area. Ok, now slightly happier sits its related. You know cool open
May I haven't about me: you never met a hippie that was like. Oh yeah, you norma very close minded person. That ideas is key
he's embrace that idea for shrimps hippies.
a freer mind is even more hippies, free or mine.
CBS! Yes, I I that's flavour for sure, ok, so I've
I, like the way for your mind, sounds better at me. It means exactly in my mind. It means exactly what I think, but, as I would tell that to people
You know I'd be like talking to someone. That's in leadership. Presumably do you get for your mind it and they kind of like angle, eventually starting
or you can open your mind and be seen to it- seemed a train,
and be more understandable to people you too, to open your mind.
Because they understand the opposite of more openness is
closed, yeah, the opposite of free is trapped, so that does
quite and convey what what the what the idea is. Yet I want you to feel I dont want you
on trap your mind, examined your mind, stuck which open your mind, so you can see different possible
woody's. Yes, a closed. Mind seems like closed off turnover thing free.
an open means like your open to new info now info. Now you more capable a feel but free in, like whatever trapped or free. Your mind is like hey, think about everything
Just for the sake of thing rang, almost no kind of a thing is not about letting things into your mind. It's more about liked, letting things out may be an unknown leg. You thoughts our kind of a thing than those like opposite almost in a way the feel. So that's what it is,
you ve, gotta, open your mind, you gotta for your mind. Otherwise you you don't make adjustments in. You don't make adaptations like like this book when he won't. You won't get there
and in fact I will say this- you can
even get married to your objective, and I mention that, like you, have to have an open mind that your objective might change your objective
in your business in your team in your family. Your objective might change it. Might it might go up, it might go down it. Michael left him like a right,
There's businesses. People have a business that we want to be able to do this and then also the reality that that's an unrealistic or that is.
Take too long we're that's gonna, cost too much and they adjust their objective, so
You got it realised that your objective, my change, but you ve got me.
For that. You understand that you are going somewhere. What is the objective it if you're
most fine move it
and then know what it is a move towards it. So that's it! We got skinner
these laws can certainly help. You this privilege can certainly help you think through your issues, help you see more, hopefully and hope we help you to win whatever war. You might be fighting right now and echo if we are going to war, we need to feel secure.
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That's what's the ass, what is trying to do? No brain,
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All service members who are in harm's way right now, but world
Is a volatile place? It's a hostile place. We know that our military members are
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stay alert, stay alive and also
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There is a lot going on in the world right now. There is heightened risk. So same goes to you all.
For what you do, stay alert and stay alive and everyone else out there.
the principle that you could find a most these list once again was the objective you have to know your objective. Yeah
have to know what it is you have to know where you're going, because if you do
no know your aim. How can get there
We gonna do to get there. So no your objective write it down. No, you
aim know your unified strategic goal of your organization and know what you're trying to do as an objective for your self. Keep it front of mine, keep it front of mind and then fight to get closer to it every day, by going out there and getting after it, and until next time, the echo and jacko out.
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