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this tuna see was gone on land and am tongue begun, dont good. How are you
Well, I just want to get other painting on company might be absolutely ludicrous his arm over her, provided it
the canyon anyway
I just made the career change about seven months ago I became a realtor after leaving a job that I was at about, since I was twelve
Actually, sorry
and my wife worked a salary job, and so obviously that meeting in real terms, income can go drastically up or down some so promoters cub
that make a whole lot and then there's more.
Ready to grant next. My I'll make about twenty five and then I'm working about billion dollar deal in allowing hold
Did you say nine million you're right? I cannot
Can I ask the commercial property
beyond that is looter keep going, obviously
Obviously, one might you know I could make really good morning in the next month. I might you know, might not mine
and so my question is
is it a good idea for my wife to quit her salary job to be a state, a mom? What she desperately want the bill and just now
with my commission only job, how long
It's! You may have said this before, but I got sidetracked by the nine million. How long have you been doing real estate? Seven more seven months,
and how much money is your wife make
right now like forty
fifty grand
Here's what I would here's ammo
going to with jade. Worship might do
if I were in your exact situation in your exact shoes- I think that
probably on track to be able to do that, but you're so early in the game. On this I would want to just get a whole picture.
What a whole year is like and say, ok,
is this normal did I have just a couple of quick windfalls: what's it like, you know, does our makes
because I feel like real estate is one of those things. So many p
we'll got into real estate, george and twenty twenty, and it was like how
I can do those like. This is easy. You know and then the market started getting different and is like. Oh, this is what it's really like.
I went from any one of their mom, could sell houses and make good money too. Oh my gosh, even the pros or struggle a right and it's
like you're not struggling. I'm curious. You, you told us what you made this.
month, the previous month in which can have down down the pipe. But what were your first six months lake
so much for wine a bit about one point: five million dollars the old one is an amount. What's your net profit made like
the programme in one month
yeah. So what's been your worst moment read that that that not necessarily counting broker fees and stuff butternut: okay, okay, okay, I'm with you what would be your net income after all fees will give me your worst month yet so far you there
Well, we had a good run with land and well, let's keep talking about them, because that will see if we can get him back, let learning I vow, but what I'm? What we're getting out in what I know what I'm getting at is. I want to see what the track record has been with this, because if it's like hand,
at thirty, though, or you know now- I made thirty two, but I was making seven and I was making five. I was making four I a ten, you know if it's been very sporadic and then all of a sudden there's a jump off. That's great! I'm happy for him.
I would want to know more about it. Did you meet somebody? What was the connection like
This happened that has made this explode arm in a good way and is
something that sustainable you know cause,
his wife does
she's gonna stay home. It's a big! You no big deal and to go from a you know:
he's back gregor grace if I'm other less island
sorry. We are what happened
I hit some turbulence I have now aged fed call failed. I don't know what happened. That's alright, so we we're just speculating over here about your situation, we're trying to define the track record
it hasn't been to a mathematical equation. If your expenses are four thousand dollars and your worst month with six thousand dollars weaken, she can stay home tomorrow,
you can learn how to manage this irregular income. It's not can be a problem, well, arms
I mean we're in baby steps set in our house paid for me to be here: okay, security and
and we have about sex
grain and our emergency bond,
ok,
applying and wants to just take a stand.
He added whatever conventions. So if thirty, five grand in a just take like a fire,
thousand dollar salary out of that image continue to put the rest or whatever we need to as far as an emergency find retirement, whatever yeah, you guys are at the point where you just build wealth and give
fifteen percent in for retirement. Now you can do twenty five percent plus you could save up in an index fund and purchase real estate, and you can have some real fun or give outrageously. I love it re. Our plan is just to save up and take out your rental real estate and invest heavy gear. Both great yeah
say go for it you're in a good position. You ve done everything right and you have no reason to fear and in a irregular income, very
Well he's not scared of work, and that tells me no matter what happens. Yes, it's going to be okay. If there's a bad month, he'll go out and make money elsewhere worse
is one day. If his wife wants to work, she can go. Do that again, sharon's either home? That's right! Yeah! You can always go back if you want to very very to halt to big ol for a lot of people have to stay at home. It is
and you know I was thinking about this earlier today before we even got on the shows sitting by myself. Thinking about the fact that so many
a call and in their trying to know in my
to the point where you know my
I can say homer if it to stay calm, dad situation and I think
It is something that a lot of people aspire to and it's it's so hard
on this end, when you
I have to say no
if you do that. You're gonna
like your finances, are going to suffer so much it's better. If you continue working, it's almost like taboo to tell someone
you know: you're gonna financial show in if it were us, we'd keep working to pay down that debt, and it's like what you'd rather
may take time away from my precious April thought you know, and and in people, think that worries artless yeah be heartless, but at the end of the day it's like no, we
You too have the best possible scenario, and this is not the case with land and his wife can stay home tomorrow. Lug bro stayed home years ago absolutely, but I mean with a lot of
it's like now, you might have to sacrifice a little on the front end so that you can attain that dream later on air
Sometimes you have to say no well on
we'll call into the show and a spouse already stays home. Yet they have a huge pilot debt. They ve got five kids.
and household income as thirty five grand right on this is your. Never.
To be out of debt. You're always gonna. Have these money struggles? If we don't make some serious ass so doing it the right way
first time
which is usually the hard way, is the best way for peace and less stress. That's right, and even though everybody, you know your friends circle or the folks on instagram might be doing it. It doesn't mean that you can afford to do it. You can do whatever you want to do, but it doesn't mean that you can afford to do whatever you wanted. Ouch jade or hurt feelings out there, all rental, I'm I'm preaching a little bit. This is the ramsey show
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Europe must learn to the ramsay show its jaguar shall hear joined by george camel asthma. Co host. Also, hosts of the amazing you to channel the george camel show
Thank you. Yes, if we're having a good time, I
I see that having too much fun, I put her on a temporary tattoo for a video today. If that tells you how much fun we're having where is
said tattoo located george on my bicep. If you can even call it a bicep out enough, I can and its, but I think that this would lasting through your to hurry area. Back insurance chissano make anyone jealous bologna. I know we don't we feel very insecure when we're next seashore
even though the fact that we got new episodes, monday, wednesdays and fridays and then smart money happy hour, yes, are shows rachel crews that drops on
They saw almost have every day the weak locked in yeah. I love smart, many happy hour arm. I listen to it on my long runs and oh thank you. It is. Is it keeps me like entertains during my run, so I'm not gives you distracted me. I should try that I should try running and then listening to small many happy
you need something to distract us from the pain and smart. Many happy hour does just that on something else,
you're, that's I'm not painful, but actually really great is austin.
Our producers said you can check out this article and I've actually seen this before its jimsie is ditching credit cards for cash. Stuffing
in nineties throwback. So it's not just the fashion has come back now, not just the genco genes. It's also cash stuffing.
And they're trying to make it sound like this is like an ancient I mean a guessing. It is pretty old, but it made me feel old when I read it, he says as well as flip phones. Look at this just like flip phones, micro mini skirts, pop
we're in tops. I think I miss that friend latterly what the heck is a popcorn top. What is it-
I try to google that one later gen z is bringing their bringing cash back yeah! That's what what is this? A staggering sixty nine percent of gen z is using cash
more now than they did twelve months ago,
than Genji Z, gen x, forty seven percent, while oh that's, crazy or
baby boomers, thirty, seven percent, so we're too
attributing to this as cash or envelope stuffing, is an old school budgeting. Hack com
he tottered by renown, financial adviser, Dave, ramsay long man and that is
making a resurgence on social media as Genji struggles to get a grasp
finances what you I apply
they resource they're gone, we're so broke that we're gonna, stop using the credit cards and resort to cash, because that keeps us on try yeah use,
You know we read. These articles were gone off in a huff smoke, but I'm actually proud of these people. If, if you re
is what you are doing is not been working and if it
makes you are adopting a pair
We an ancient form of money management and we're not today loud hears. Feelings would be hurt that his thirty
The advice is now considered ancient. If you don't know how
stuffing is what we're talking about here. Is the envelope system that day may
popular back in the day when you actually,
for your budget, you say: I've got three hundred bucks for groceries this month, I'm going to withdraw three hundred bucks from the bank in cash. Put it in an envelope use that when I shop when it's out it's out- and I gotta figure it out what a concept
And you know here's the thing about the cash envelopes
some. I love it. My husband and I use that alot when we were getting out of debt and sometimes
the question of like a cows as work, yet there are
had agreed that work better with cash stuffing right like you would have to do with your electric bell right this up, but you have to do that on my payment. You wouldn't do without, but things like gas and somewhere, your owners raise you overspend on eating out groceries, going
shopping at the mall, whatever that's right, preach it and
to say george. I put
still on social media, the other day about
you know a lot of people are like it so hard for me J to stick to the budget. What are you
suggest and unlike what
comes to sticking to the budget is not always like sheer willpower right. You ve gotta, put these habits and
is that help you succeed and so on,
go to cash. Stepping, unlike
which you the right amount of cash in your wallet and not
me that
The challenge somebody listening right now take out the credit cards and take
the debit card, ou get rid of the plastic out of your wallet. You want it. You want to stick to your budget. How bad do you want it? Take that plastic out?
and if you know how I got to the grocery store, I double dog, dare you to just
the two hundred dollars in cold hard cash and see what happens this cycle
those cleansers where you take out like sugar or now call for three weeks. I realise how great you feel for the first time in your life. The same thing
financially how many gone put in the cards away. I want to feel the pain of having
use the cash and when you do that the grocery store you're gonna
switch the generic brand. You know, I'm gonna put them back. That was a snack yeah, don't actually need that for sustenance, yeah, and I mean he think about it. It happen
all the time. You're like ok, my budget is unity.
Hundred dollars and then inevitably
ash register is too old for sixty sixty three and you're like just take.
The debit card in india. The force exceed three, but if all you have is cash, you put the pot parts back back. That's right! That's called delayed gratification
and discipline and willpower and self control things we would all do better to have in today's society as a whole. I oughta Genji cause. This is big. There
what survey found that nearly half of Genji said they relied on social media for financial
vice the most have any generation
quarter of them said they learn more about money from content. Creators then school
books. What how you was a tick talker?
actual influence or are fluency, which is somehow a word ass to honey, garcia she's got over
thousand followers is that an she does weekly cash stuffing videos that bodies and budgets. That might
That might be her at her. That's her yeah! I don't that her content is really fun rightly makes it very, very fun bateson. But she says: when you leave money in your account, you swipe or debit card. You don't realize how much money you spending, because it's not something tangible
I only cast out my bills, then that way, I knew that money had left. I could spend because I would always overspend measures a thank you.
He's the credit card. They go well Jane.
ever pay diamond interest. I still am good you can.
Budget. When you use a credit card, think about this, you get the bill.
the end of the month. That's right and one lump sum. You can't
it individually to see her even on track or overspending in a category you're living in reverse
revert you're living in hindsight don hope? I have enough money in the count to cover the credit card. No, that's not a recipe for for wealth or financial,
not to mention a good point on that georgia is a lot of people do get caught up on the fact that oh I'm not paying interest, I pay it off every month. Maybe you do, but we know that the stat, the statistics do tell us that you are spending at the.
very very least twelve to fifteen percent more when you're in no use.
Plastic as opposed to cash.
specifically when you're using credit card so
very much worth thinking about that there
Let's try to take a little call your george. We got I'm, let's see what
What drew is talking about in Boston? Hey, that's your stopping ground, george Boston Massachusetts. I would do what's was going on.
indeed in georgia, privilege be speaking a deal, although I wish. I wasn't
When we have a situation not cause, he doesn't want to talk to us. Ok, that's exactly exactly long story short and thirty. Four
his old I e, and make a little over a hundred thousand becomes a jerk roughly over sixty one case. I have somehow
We got into a position where I've got over just over seventy six.
thousand dollars worth of debt and credit cards and
personal allowance
getting married in november,
zero dollars saved up an unjust thinking. Maybe
I sure did take out a four o one care alone: the pay off some of this debt,
and I was just wondering what you're not
I am we are going to
about the idea of a four
one key loan in a second but
I'm going to challenge you big time on those free,
seeing that you used about your debt.
You said I somehow.
somehow, not really sure what a dude somehow wandered into seventy,
six thousand dollars of debt and
I want you to get real honest,
like. No, I didn't you somehow wander into it. It didn't just lightning didn't strike me and I ended up in debt. I made some
decisions here, like I made some choices and now I have debt write
yeah yeah. I guess I was poor warning. I e. I definitely live
outside of my knees and I'm trying to get onto a budget on this have been
having trouble sticking with it, but I'm at the point now were like this. I have to stick to this budget
and so I totally that I'm just trying to figure out like a package
this law and it's my kind of my last resort. I think it is not a real solution. I such a solution that puts you further into debt, and so the solution organised
use the one in the mere it's you this
future income at selling stuff. It's side. Hustles is living on less than you make getting on a budget we're going to help we're going to send you financial peace university for one year and every dollar premium bullets in a four one k puts your retirement savings at risk. It robs the future growth of that money, you're going to be stuck tied to your employer and you're paying taxes on those one loan repayments twice, so it's like triple stupid. So that do not do this at all costs, and you don't have to you can't borrow your way out of debt. That's a fact! You gotta pay your way out of debt. This is the ramsey show.
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still we got no not from up or clare o clare,
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how's it going out, I've never heard of them. You your check him out
good, I can I make a can. I have a moment of confession right here, George. What did you call the music group? I
but they are called Bonn Iver yeah. You heard every puppies,
stop lying when he said that I am sorry, I usually get it right. Ok, I'm no word for good winter. It's a whole! I'm not gonna nerd out on india folk right now, but I hear too hard. I know not forgive me
didn't know, but now we're here to help. How can we help
of course,
no there's a bit of a backstory behind at all times be brief.
One hundred are, we went through the baby's that power that saved up money,
dont for our emergency fund and then put it on payment on a house?
I found out I lit we found out. I was pregnant
My daughter was born.
That was tender. One everything fell apart and she was gone.
what is brain damage to the mall or spend a week from the you eye?
fighting for. Otherwise, I learned about it
after she got home about every eight weeks
be re hospitalized!
The boy do aspiration, while shortly
the first I lost my job to spend in kind of us
and all things.
We never went back it today, that's great, but we did
during our emergency fund.
These guys
a whole bunch of house. Like me, we need to replace things and fix things
this kind of been pushing and ended.
not sure how to get back on track
that makes about fifty thousand a year.
I picked up bookkeeping,
my better burnside job with white guardian and teaching pulling level that's wonderful held by they actually
We are starting to get back on track, but I'm having trouble stay focused,
cutting even back like a budget
you ve been in every way you guys have been through a storm and you're still. It sounds like you're still in it and you're still fighting to kind of get your bearings. Ah I think,
It happens. It's very easy to lose focus, it's very cause. You go into survival mode right, you're, just like the last thing. You're thinking about is money you're thinking about your child, what you should be and- and
What I want to say to you is
forgive yourself for whatever you might be feeling like. Oh, I messed up our finances. I messed up our money, just let them
fall to the wayside, because now
now another day in today's another data, pick it back up and go gaelic, what do we need to do now to make sure were in the best,
will position and it sounds.
You ve already kind of started that journey back, which is great. I applaud you for that on your doing,
book, keeping your doing some other things. What's that bringing and free right now
not a luxury? Now no man, a couple acquired the bookkeeping knows about
two hundred dollars a month. Ok,
and then between the white guardian and mean like even expecting about three another three hundred dollars a week, she I'm not sure just filling the gap a little bit until my bookkeeping. Until I can
add a few more quiet, that's wonderful! So how can we help you? How exactly can we help today
well good. The main question
I hope we have to rebuild our emergency funds and their people
Well, mainland gunnar: how is likely
to replace a rare to back is right.
Girl anyway,
My car
what could tackle like how do we go about getting and all done? I should surely like, like in the baby's that liquid
that's debt, snowball and lake.
I wouldn't make until everything paid off. I make a last my priority. I'd make a list by priority of this kind.
Not wait! We ve gotta do this today
and we ve got to do this so get with your husband and you guys just a mission
just brainstorm all the things that you feel weighing down on. You like that need maintenance, make that list and then go back through that list and pray
ties it by importance and then said
gathering information. How much is honestly gonna cost us? What's that?
best. We could do it for and at this point it's one
things george, where there are so many things floating around in your brain is giving you anxiety and if you can write it down like
see grasp it from the air and put hands around it and then ok, it
they're gonna cost me to get new terrorism can be six hundred dollars. Okay and really put on
just break it all down into little bite eyes chunks, where you have a daily little to do list today. I'm gonna research, the contractors in the area and get some quotes on the deck. That's it and then
a figure out when the roof needs to be replaced, that six months from now, what's figure out ten grand divided by six months? Here's how much we need to save each month and start to make a plan for that create
thinking fond and our budget, and so once you do that you put on paper, it makes
I feel better cause. I am I'm like no one. I have like all these things float around my head. I need some semblance
process in system in control and at height and in
I understand? You're not gonna, be blow to do it all at once in that's. Ok and some of this stuff is
get done this year in some stop. It might make wait till next year, but you boy
need to go into it with the idea of and with the big,
the boundary of we are not going into debt, and sometimes I know those things sometimes.
It can feel like just pounding on your door like the bid, the big bad wolf, and it can feel like its pressuring you to go into debt and I'm telling you if you take them off the table,
there's always going to be a solution that you're going to get creative and go okay? Okay, you're going to reach out to your community you're, going to find a friend who knows a plumber? Who will do it for you? You know at costs you you're going to find all those things so just be patient ah
the plan and hey we're poland for you. You can set out and re lamp you're you're, not the person work here to beat up on about what are you doing? You have been through it. That's right off. It takes you six months longer than the average person. That's ok! I know it's frustrating, but this is a very different journey for you, guys and you're doing so. So what are you guys are fighting scratching you're, calling you doing all the right things and it feels like this is gonna be forever, but it's not steps can get repair. The emergency fund will be in place. Raining get this health situation figured out or poland phenomena so great. We love. You know that this is the ramsay shove
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You ve been listen for a little while on couple away
it's a couple of months and you're like I really like this ramsey show, but sometimes you guys say things and I'm like what does that mean? I hear you guys talk about the baby steps. I hear you say funny
phrases like that is done.
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I was talk to william William is in chicago illinois was gonna, william shy tone. George,
my question here is: I am
I wanna know struggling to budget for baby steps. Can I get no good,
balance between enjoying life and and completing baby step. Six,
currently ants you, but
we'll be able to get through three four five and the next month.
oh wow, enjoying a windfall what happened
Amelia had got out at the outset, I got I I have fifty k in liquid
I got a villa garment shell. It's a toy car! It's got about a I got a. I am a car loans for it. It's forty k what it's worth about. Eighty, though I'm a
It's worth thirty or forty, so this guy, which need yeah pay off my wife student loans
she's, gonna be gradually, and so I think that's what I want you.
That money. Since then,
kind of all in on the baby steps now I'll take care of all the debt. I'm I've been saving fifteen per cent plus I'm throughout.
Couple years already for the baby said so about you, twenty five
am I for one k already ding dong
I've been doing the same for the children's for thee
oh, it's gone. How many european a bit
three. Now one is going to college this year in that
No one's going to college next year.
Commitment to them was to you
college. I will pay for it lover. I get cash flow,
and then you guys can work in an cash for yourself
come on www. Doesn't I'm talking about that? That's the move right there
So what's your household income
she'll average two to fifty a year. Wives
and a graduate social she's gonna be an expedition.
she's gonna, bring in some good cash wonderfully button to the nurse now so she's bring in some of these. It
every year, but she only works part time, but should be able to
well time and that's great we're going to the the goal, is baby step. Six, but again, how do I
How do I
they live rate
if I am innocent decent idle.
I am in a decent to duration. Eyewitness bennett,
like I am endeared, and I'm not with your income and the fact that you're about to be basically through baby steps to three already started on four or fraudulent and
purposes, but you're in great shape with that income, and you know we always say that the first free baby steps are about being super intense and go and hard and his ellen,
hence in rice and beans, but where
you're going to as we're gonna be way more about intentionally. I love that you have
plan already in place for baby step, five, which is paying for kids college and then going into six it's about. Looking at your margin, I mean you're you're
continue to budget into all of those are smart habits that you ve put in place.
Then you're gonna, look at your margin at the end of the month ago. Go we ve got
out of dollars. How,
Do we want to put towards the mortgage because we do need to put a fair,
towards a mortgage and you know work towards paying that off. But you know you were
on the work, so it's time to live a little as well, and so there is a balance there and its,
to you and your wife really to decide what that looks like. Is it a percentage game where you go hey whatever the margin is were put in
eighty percent to the more to the mortgage
and then the other sixty percent we play with and we're doing this, and that with that its
to you? How you wanna, I mean you're, tired! You had only to my wife and I were extra weird, so we went intense because we just felt like it and we don't. We didn't have kids, we have very little responsibility and
we paid armitage, often twenty six months. We also got a very reasonable ma.
Tom modest, more out so what's your mortgage, William,
in the fifteen year mortgage in my my loan is one. Seventy, though lausd is worth four hundred dude you're going to pay this thing off legitimately. I, my guess, is two and a half three years yeah
That's like yours, I'm thinking about
I dont know if it's doubt that still need to agree
or around. Can I throw something out there to william? Can I
just float son this is. This is jade
sometimes, I feel like when people dont have to have much of a journey in the debt pay off right. They don't have to,
go through that
three years of intense like paying it
ray? I bet you. Why are more likely to do that on the mirage now
do I have been in the last year. It I mean I had a monkey alone. I had okay, so I've been knocked.
I'm down, I mean I've had some good thank on seven june,
for the last year and a half for so you have been on that on that that tub here's what I like jade Jed, I just like having having say we want to. We want to save ten thousand for vacations, criticize
in front of my budget, and so
of ten thousand. We want to upgrade our clothing line item great. Let's upgrade that out
was left. We are going to dedicate towards the mortgage that might be for you guys it's laboring, twelve or fifteen k home a month or into debt.
Eight six grand extra on top on mortgage and we're gonna make
Auto pay and that's gonna be our goal.
And if we can increase that at some point, that's cool, but now
At least we know as to how to offer our monitors. Yet the point
just being intentional, with whatever you decide on, like george,
and I love that idea of the sinking funds, but you know still
living some of your wife too, because the fact is, you have done,
you know and we don't want to
that part away. You know, I think sometimes George people
think that we don't want you to have fun with your money. We just want you to pay off debt
keep your head down and you know by
in this case, william you, you ve done that you're, making a good,
income the fact that you're calling you know you ve got a plan for college you're. Doing
the right thing so yeah, like george, said less bring,
the vacation budget a little bit. Let's bring up
holding budget a little better, maybe the go out to eat budget and in them
so that we can also pay a full extirpate
on the house or two for extra payment ina, whatever that looks like for you in there
really really exciting. So very well done here. It's a great goal to have, and most people pay off
get thirty years of their lucky
following the ramsey plan, we found that people actually pay their mortgages, often about seven years following the baby steps and are a millionaire study. We found that millionaires on average pay off their homes in ten years. That's right to anywhere between seven and ten years, you're doing really well, if you beat that you're just super weird and
income those numbers and the low mortgage high income that things gonna get knocked down a few years, even with
occasions, and sport there's always somewhat stuff. Money can buy, then sorrow
like Heaven, freedom, you know in that when she
yeah. I love not having a payment yeah and I
think you know what I was saying to him before? Is there it's? Ok, if you and your spouse decide that you want to go hard on paying off that that
mortgage interest being aggressive about it. That's your bag to like mama needs a pedicure, get her the better you're. Ok, he had heard of the more. I can wait another day I know right have fun living like no one else. That's baby steps, Evan you'll, be there no time that is right! I love it. Well that does it for this, our guys be sure to join us next time on the ramsay show hey. What's up guys, it's too, if you love the show in one a deeper died on your money journey. We have a weekly newsletter that gives each rending and helpful articles antics on following the Ramsay way, just go to ramsay solutions, dot com today to sign a poor newsletter. Again, that's ramsay solutions, dot com to sign up for our weekly newsletter aids, James producer of the rams issue. This episode is over but check the episode notes for links to products and services you heard about during this episode. Thanks for listening,
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