Sir Patrick Stewart feels proud, happy, honored to be Conan O’Brien’s Friend.
Sir Patrick Stewart sits down with Conan to talk about his humble roots, his new book Making It So, and about what it’s like for the two of them to share a passionate kiss. And later, the gang discusses yet another new podcast from Matt Gourley.
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My name is Patrick Stuart and you know I was would like to do that as if I were on the radio. Ok, please, hello. My name is petrol steward.
What better way I am so devising an honour to be,
here, because the last time we could have done this. I wasn't available. It's true. You remember
have you outlined against me now. Having held against you, you said you weren't available and I said that's too bad. It was
planned and we are ready to go and then I walked down the street and I saw you eating a delicious meal in a restaurant. Now thought that asshole- and you saw Me- and I saw you duck down underneath the table know you are very you. It was not your fault, you couldn't make it but you're here now and I'm sure you're delighted to be conan. O'brien's friend, oh, yes, yeah! I knew I'd miss what I thought. No, that's, not important. That's a freudian slip and I feel proud, happy honored to be
corner brien's friend? God bless you, sir. I walk in defence of their welcome to cornered o brien needs. A friend
has it gives much more than an ever takes
What that means just set. It mean I put no thought into these introduction. So nice to see you nice to see
Your leg is get going a little fast today. I know wireless about something: yeah really scared be here. I don't know who you might be nervous.
Your leg is going like a jackhammer yeah. I think I have too much chocolate before we recorded. I really think it's like sugar is is pumping through. We all had a different place at this round table that I grew up at in our kitchen.
and my mother, my seat was
to my mother. My mother was to my right, so I was on her left and I
but I have a gigolo leg. Yak active wrestling with legs rather like an it, goes like a jack hammer and my mother used to just grab it like a vice and squeeze it and go told you that
we'll think something's wrong with you overwhelm us, so we clear that up, no one's ever thought.
but something's wrong with me. That's what it was yeah it was that one yeah yeah she didn't tell me: don't make nine hundred thousand hours of crazy fucked up runtime put all over the internet, kept that leg still
maybe. If the leg was going, I'd be perfectly normal.
you should get a full leg. Catholic has cast iron cast or in your whole body. Would start fake legs so that my tours
oh goes through my torsos there, but then I just have fake and then I could like add calf muscles
make them more attractive. Very! Are legs yeah legs for normal, getting our legs, I don't have to have them removed. Oh it's like their hidden,
I should have had them hidden and I don't know why I went to remove yeah, oh exterior question that that's a bad idea. I don't know I'm just going ahead with it anyway. This is always yes, I've always had
add a restless leg and I don't know why I called you out on yours because you really don't write on mars. When I mean what I tell what about you goarly do you have any text like that are and what may have actual restless legs condition:
at night, when you get those horrible restless, legs
I'm not that it is not that easy. There is like a syndrome, mrs thing where you you get like pins and needles and you can't sleep in your legs feel crazy or that some silly. Oh, are you? Ok, I probably not. When you should check out. I have there's nothing can be done about it. It's neurological, they don't know what causes a lot of meal where you down down. Eared legs have pins a needle yeah or they feel like they're, like
half asleep, but you gotta move em, even though that doesn't really help. Ok, I'm gonna ask our listeners. If there is a doctor listening or someone who knows about this condition, could you please contact us because you might,
maybe something going on here. How did they contact us? I'm sure our will tell us for number that the gleam
well. I have spoken about my daughter. I love it we're a podcast that has a phone number there's a phone number one: five
five wrigley twenty two
you spoken to a doctor. I have you. Was it a good doctor or like some sort of kooky doctor that you might have? I was a wish darker, neither
it was it was it my doctor, my general practitioner, everything's, fine, don't don't it's that no one should have known you left your kept awake at night by pins and needles. Feelings in your legs don't go away at interesting and another,
Whenever it just turns out, you guys have termites
listen interpreting asian yeah, you're really being eaten alive,
as you lay it barely that resolution had taken by
Yeah, I have any that by
it she back like my right shoulder blade,
and recently my dermatologist there's absolutely nothing there and it's just neurological. That's an each that! Isn't there it's a phantom, it
yeah, oh my god, I d ever back scratching we did have one than I am here. I printed it's illegal.
pay a man that little to scratch, your back, the better business bureau got involved. No, I I, my wife,
and one and then it went it disappeared, and now I swear to god will be watching tv
and now stand up get off the couch go over the wall find a corner and, unlike a bear in the woods I start rake
my back across the
if a doorway woe, because- and I am told it's quite common- it's something that happens. It's
Illogical, it's not real, but it feels real to me where
all. This is why we ve been driven to this is gig.
This value you both have things that, like are really not dying. No single largest neurological yeah, that's
That's weird! Well, you might have stuff to you. Just I don't think you got a doctor and stuff
I dont know you you're, you have your. I know that your parents are very old school. Yes, they are all
Can you tell me all the time that your father grew up in a village, less yeah
and that's why,
No, if you grew up, I mean today.
I don't know what haven't did they? Why did you grow up
small here? Will you know, are we weren't as dependent on doctors? Is a lot of people are, but maybe that's a good thing sure, and I also,
I don't think I'm anything with my body. That's like a neurological thing. I mean I feel like you guys like that, should be more concerned
I mean you're, both like yeah whatever, when you say it's not a bad thing that you never went to the doctor as a child, yeah you're, I say we didn't rely on doctors as much as a lot of you said dependent and that's a bad thing. Yeah yeah, it's not your. I notice that he has a pipe going through his head and I said well what about that?
pipe and you went a little it'll go away on its own. He said this this truck ahead of me.
drop this off on the highway went through my head. Nineteen sixty nine but it'll be ok
pick up my dad. I love your dad. I know he's got the best mustache I've ever seen may does best. What would there
many be for his neurological phantom ich yeah. What would your mom say to do?
russia has some old like folk remedy, does have she's very much in the old sort of like voodoo thing like when we wanted to have babies. I think I told you see like buried a baby under a bush a lot. I realise that we have to have a baby. I wait a minute wait, a minute. The baby at all. I bade a doll s war. Can I see some you ve gotta say that ok, I gotta say that was so upsetting
very believe you ever beheld upsetting we
I wanted a baby, so she very
a baby in the back yard. What up what a monster?
yeah no another if she was a baby, dolly was a dog she buried. A doll under a book was a wonder: is it a talking down once we have the boy she was like David died, this did done. It worked guises
I was by your house for the last time and it was walking around the backyard and I stepped on what I loose piece of gradually heard that baby,
the boy laugh at you know it's over talking bay, we arms those previously somewhere, there's just a dirt crusted baby sitting in your mom's housing, yeah, probably hundreds of them- and we are now every day that sedona was mary for every day, son of his marriage. You would do it. Nine hundred plastic baby dolls were stolen yesterday from Walmart plus a shovel of police. There won t, be so yeah, but I don't know I mean they wait. I think I really think you do need to figure out why these things are happening to your bodies. I think we should talk your mom.
I think we could fix every we ever in yeah, your mother, because I've noticed in the past when I have not felt well. You have told me
Oh here's, my mom would do, and it's it's pretty cool, like your mind, has good I'm I'm saying as it sounds like she has really
good remedies for something's the bearing the plastic baby? There is, there is a few missteps, but for the most part, she's been pretty late. My brother and I are are pretty healthy people like we don t know. We know we ve been up, we broke
we're alive. You don't sell commencing world lie all hazard needle legs and weird the age.
in my bath and rice was lost.
Thank you very much
as you can you too tired? I am you're getting married me because of the way
in dealing with my regard, mad at you were now you are you. Have you come from a very judging play? I don't think so. You are you're coming from a very, but I don't think I started with you going you guys. Did they get their bucket checked out? You went from selling asked you gotta get that fucking.
checked out to my mother berry.
A baby in the back yard that were allowed to judge by our by the way that some judgment is in
order. I work like I have a few ended thing. How do you think my two children happened? You think that just I'm in very did she buried too,
That is why it all just wanted children of some guy dont think it matters
How many there is work if you like, and I really want to turkey sandwich- teaches beria turkey say: oh my god! Now you just go, get a turkey sandwich, Matt! That's! How were ok I'll, show you how to bury that sandwich, then hoping
the same away, arms and they were not sandwich doesn't come? You have to buy that sandwich and bury it. You die of starvation with nine hundred turkey. Sandwiches buried under go go rather back on the law of your vat revenue back. I love that quick down ago, ruddy fairy story at my mother. If she was losing an argument to one of my sisters and I swear to god,
I was therefore this. She said. I go wash your face like nineteen seventeen, my sister,
This is an economic migrants. User go wash your face. I wash your face. I like germany use, go, I'm gonna use that I'm lies a technology. I would argue that outlines next time. She saying you know who
dare you smashed the dishes in the kitchen which I do occasionally it sort of like a sword with a great thing,
I gazed at luck, yeah and then
sure I'm gonna and she gets mad at me. I'm glad I wash your face.
You don't know. I don't want you to say the lies at, but I want to definitely say to someone. I go
area be baggage, bury the baby s dark, varied diet is dying.
We gotta, say: plastic baby, a baby doll yeah, which is not what you did. I know I should have said that well, your own fault, anyway, with my guest today, horrified that is here, I know he should leave, he should leave. He should beam out talented actor who played captain.
of picard star trek. The next generation and professor acts in the x men movies
now is written new memoir making it so, Sir Patrick Stuart welcome.
I'm going to start by saying something I dont get to say often
It is, I think, one of the latter.
times I saw you, we kissed full on on the lip
It was on my show, and I forget how it happened. Something was
the air that night. I have only kissed
two men fall.
on the lips. One was you, the other was
Mr Ryan, reynolds. We did a piece,
what we did a parity of a noble, good track record. Yes, I am killing it with the family
young. How do we compare? Well? Ok, I'll, say this. I, my soul, left my body,
it was. It was an incredible experience to kiss you. You came around my desk and you grab me.
Head and it was a powerful kiss has passed.
Well, I think I wanted to demonstrate the authenticity of my feelings and
yes. I think all the police of what this is, what
if something had happened between Ian Mckellen and myself, yes, which included a kiss on the lips yeah and- and I think you brought that up and something about you know- nobody's ever kissed- you like that nice man here we go here, we go, it was so fantastic. I just put it out there not thinking this is where we go
and suddenly this man was up on his feet. It came round his swept me off my feet, powerful.
it's taking everything in my power, not to say I've never been kiss like that. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I don't know I don't go near, and this I'm putting up a salad garden at twenty two of you, you got you use your physicality changed like hot, so excited package. It was like a cobra rising out. Looking at you do I do I not, but I have to say that one difference with with ryan reynolds is he has it,
technique. I guess we're kissing and it was a longer cares. Yes and you can look at it on videoed supernova, no book he reached
over and he started fondling my ear and I thought
I just got a weird piquant blake liveliest life at this mountain asked very strange anyway.
I'll, come thrilled to have you here, you're a consummate actor
you ve got, I believe, the greatest voice in the world
if accomplished so much in your life and you ve, also written this book manual
lived a life. I will say
that you have lived in a credible if any written about it beautifully in this book which
how's your story, and there's so much in here that I didn't know, starting with your childhood you're. Such a good actor
You ve gone through this transformation that I would never in a million years, believe that you came from the north
very little means I dunno how to say at what you would call. I think he referred to it in your book has served the rust belt of england, which this area
what's a call out. It was the west writing of yorkshire, a kind of division of yorkshire such a big county. It's the texas of the uk right and
It was divided into north
oh west, yorkshire and east yorkshire and then margaret
sat, shut came along and she created south yorkshire. I think she
actually made queen of software yorkshire quite about, but was but it's it's well down.
As an industrial centres. Sheffield, of course, which was only a few miles away from where I grew up. Was the steel centre. Yes of england,
probably of europe at the time. You cannot judge a book by its cover, but I would have thought was you know, sir Patrick Stewart
push up bringing posh education services.
in his mouth. It that's. Those are the assumptions that I would have made and are you
have to learn the lesson again and again and again your life you had
and a lot of ways, a victorian childhood, because that's what my wife has named it. My wife is an american from,
water, she will say he might as well be living in the nineteenth century.
Kenzie and it was it- was dickensian.
I mean you talk about forceful, no money toilet outside that you share with neighbours not
quite a with the building. A gap had four toilets in it, but
each family had their own toilet. Now it was just a toilet that was all
and there was no lighting, no heating,
No running water except to flush. The toilet,
We lived in what was,
called in our neighbourhood. A one up. One down there was one room down says you stepped in off the pavement sidewalk
and you were in the living room? A thousand there wasn't anything else. There was a seller down says you are
says nos one room up says. So why not one down
and it was very, very basic yeah. I mean the toilet,
picked up. It just be one of the mandate. It wasn't really until I went to second remind the school, because I was not academic.
you're whispering, but there's still a very powerful microbes. You with great authority on my own,
snow, so we had no shaw. We had no above one
and on a friday evening was that
my brother who- and I my brother with five years older than me. I had another brother, but he was seventeen years old meetings gone
would carry this zinc. Bass up from the seller
No, I mean these, were I father told us do. Is it was our job?
on a friday evening
we would have a big boiler stood in the matter,
the floor, a gas boiler and that would boil water for the bath. Then we would ladle the war
you're out of a global into the bars and the first present
the bathroom that my father because frightened
It was the beginning of the weekend yeah, which was often not a good thing in my
yeah, and then there was a whole complicated evening in which
elder brother would bathed in the same water that my father reviews, while the water was using up again, then he would empty that
and because he knew he was made to do that. Then he could leave for a friday night himself, even though he was only ten or eleven. Then we pay
the war. Actually, no, we didn't. We had a rubber too, and we put the end of
rubber tube in about an hour psychic
which always meant that you know this is getting worse and worse and worse Jonah trends.
subject. No no go ahead. I could go down,
or I could go to having a down here on the downhill podcast now this park, as ritual name, was the downhill, see you with this out and suck insult us out we're talking about, but I mean it's just you know you talk about people like
the gas lanterns outside. You knows this
treat leave on the street and the glory and, of course your father was away in the war,
and then came back, and you said that was not a good thing because he was short tempered. There were a lot of issues with your dad, but
nowadays he would have been diagnosed instantly as having serious ptsd yeah.
He was involved in the fighting.
All of europe. I mean in france in ITALY he was in Cyprus.
he was a parachute, as is well. Oh, my god,
I never saw him for the first five years of my life. I was born in nineteen forty, the war had already started. He had already joined up and later
he was an ordinary soldier with the kings own yorkshire, light infantry coil is they were known us and them
He ended up as regimental sergeant major the parachute regiments.
next I mean the highest rank. You can get too as a non commission officer,
and he
brilliant- that job like no one favorite,
I have heard about that. But soon after he died a neighbor, why
new had so
Do them in the army is said
He saw me in a pub uneasy. Let me buy you a drink, because I want to tell you that in this he said he was an extraordinary man. He said you know,
when your dad walked onto a parade ground. The birds in the trees stop singing oh well, I mean gives so give me gooseberry, yeah and
and it's so true that I've
talk to my wife's father was similar. He I mean he is of a similar vintage, my father in law, and he when he,
born. You know his
father was off fighting in the war, and then he remembers being five years old
and this guy shows up in its again.
The banana destroyer for five years, fighting the war
many cuddly mood. You know it system, it's a very its leaves,
a common occurrence.
It was- and I think, for many people, many men and some women d-
the war kay.
as a release. You know they might my father travel. Actually he spent most of the twenties
india he the moment that his girlfriend was determined,
that she was pregnant, that
She was having his child. He is
they joined the army and denmark
I almost did that when my wife told me she was pregnant. Now, when I was in my forty, I just like on joining the army
there's no war and you're too all dead,
but I just wanted out
I wouldn't have me. I failed the physical so that didn't work.
But you having a trial nevertheless very suspicious about that child seems italian.
but anyway he was born in a mustache
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before we move on from my father where china we must yet when,
de mob in
demobilization than the golden de mobbed
He was called by his colonel, always commanding officer into it.
is to see him and and my father
is a couple of weeks away from leaving the army and the the colonel asked him what his plans were, and he said well, I'm going home and I'll get a job, and the man then told him about connection that he had and at the dorchester hotel, where you from.
This day I've met the digestive import light, yet one of the top five or six hotels
starfleet as well as present day, and he said them. They needed dormann, an assistant dormann and that jobs available
you can have it assume
as you get out of the army and a couple
this time there is an apartment or a flat as we call it I'm,
unit bilingual. Yes, you will
the flat to live in, and your wife if she,
if she feels like it. We
give her job as well. She could work in the hotel and you'll live there with your children, and
My father was very pleased about sounded and it would have been perfect for
but my mother refused to leave her home tat, which he had never left ever before. She lived in
small little coming
in the west running of yorkshire and said no. I will not go to london. I will not now. I have often thought my father. Could you said? That's fine, you stay here. I will
go to london and I will send you the money for the post and you can come down stay ass. He didn't. He stayed
and that was the beginning of the end. Before
much of his life ass. He was concerned. He was a week
and alcoholic
israel rider, nothing richard about that and, of course,
The first five years of my life were bliss
my mother and I had a cot next to her bed.
when the side was led down. I could roll out of the car straight into her bed, which I did often
We would cover all night long and then
forty five, yet very at nepal flakes
Lee who's, this guy, that's very primal stuff! You talk about
How, when you grow up in this situation, you often don't have people would assume well a young, sir Patrick Stewart
have big dreams. You do.
initially, you thought, oh, I guess I'll be a lorry driver, a truck driver because you
thank you. Look at your world than you think this is what's possible and then what changed? What happened? Was a man called sir
so the woman he was my english teacher.
My second remark is good because I was totally not academic, in fact,
I was never tested, but I
the disagreement in school and in my
second year the english marcia sessile dormann. Clearly I did I did something
read something in a class and he
I saw him pay attention and he-
the first person to put a copy of shakespeare into my hand,
never held a copy of shakespeare. In my aunt and and it
just a surprise one day in the english class, and he was handing out these books sin little books.
and said all right? This is fine.
Act, four scene, one and okay, you're playing a polka you're playing bizarre neo, you're playing orlando and the patrick. Finally, your shylock.
well, and we read the scene and my card to didn't speak for a half,
age or so, and then he had a speech of about forty lines, which is one of the most famous switches and shakespeare and
I have no idea what I was saying:
was trying to say the words are most of them. I didn't understand and yet something happen. I made a connection, I love
pronouncing these words. I was never. I didn't
spoken a language like that out loud, I mean I've
spoken english when I was a child. I spoke not just with an accent who spoke dialect
so, where twenty an instance yeah I do this is
This is my favorite. If I
go to your neighbor's house to ask him
the lad my age is coming out.
Clickable round irving when he came to the door, I would say to him: I ve taken up
that's a lake in the leg up at her out.
Now, because when I was growing up, we said the and are not because
We were ledges at all, but it was just the way you know working class was riding people's welfare. At that
thou lake in now. This is the amazing thing in shakespeare actors.
were also known as lakers
The word I was using was playing lakers stood in for playing after. Are you making playing at all
that's a leg it up, it's funny and you didn't know the derivation of any of this. You just know that's what it is. You
Just think you don't know you don't know what any of this is coming from, oh having at all, but the moment came when a second teacher who's. The mud book is dedicated
to these two people settled omen and ruth win owen, who was a retired professional,
actress now living with her husband in yorkshire and teaching and
She said to me one day, you know barrack. If you really are enthusiastic about performing,
you ve got to lose that accident, and so
started the next day right away.
And for several years I spoke with one acts.
weekends. When I was,
to my drama classes and one accident,
friday when I was in school, because if I talk like that
in the classroom.
yeah. I got some, but not the other. Kids, don't take kindly
What are the odds, gentlemen and kind women who the folks there's nothing that SARA got? No doubt yeah. I believe it's time.
I am from my jelly and penal papa, you say that you remember this is a quote word for word. The one comment about me in a newspaper review of the first amateur production I ever appeared in, and it said quote as hop Croft minor, Patrick stew,
was barely adequate
you said you remember that line for line despite the
that you were getting a lot of positive affirmations, left and right that still and
my god. Do. I know what you're talking about ha
is it for saying to me that it is
memories like that that stick and theirs
the possibility of them ever being removed, barely adequate right
and the one thing I remember that worried me most about that was my father- might see it and it would disappoint him nothing in a week,
harrison forward on this. But
as very recently and
Both of you have known a kind of success that one percent of one percent of one percent of
yours will ever know, but he went on it
great length. He knew the name of the man who
turned him down in.
Nineteen sixty eight and told him he didn't have what it takes an
he repeated his name, I think fifteen times cartilage airing the castle. We all regret. We all remember it and your thinking how much there is no amount of success that you can label on a surprise,
do it or harrison, for there is no amount that can take
that away, and this is just the blessing in the car
I'm so glad you ve told me that about harrison, I've been a huge fan, but
always been aware in his work,
that there is
some kind of internal softness gentleness
that occasionally just
bleeds out into what he does and he is letting it out. Oh by the way we have the same birthday. I was a true.
The thirteenth of July,
I am one year over them
We now see bow before you know. That's my mom's birth
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that's pictorial if ever there that's fantastic, but one
things. I very quickly realized because I'm I'm quite interested in economics, britain, spinal cord,
it's my poverty mentality. He said
poor when you were little and you ve never ever got past. That point. Part of you is still stuck in the poverty.
region, and I think he was right.
So losing my hair felt like a failure and also dating yeah
What's a go out with it an eighteen year old, just gonna feel pressure. I like ice,
always come over here now and then
one day.
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born to wear a mass website right, so you so you you're moving up in the world. You are making your way. You move to london and there's a part in the book, because you'd led this very sheltered life in mere field and you'd been
all these stereotypes, and one of the stereotypes you'd been taught was: don't trust the irish you ma
into a flat
and there are some irishman. No it was. It was a lodging lodging house again. First of all, I still believe: don't trust you
reset and I'm a hundred percent I so I am. I you come to this wonderful revelation that no that's wrong. These are wonderful people
I think you ever told you to trust the. However it spot on, but we'll let that go for now.
I'm glad you had a good experience with them. I am
wonderful experience
they were all young men. They mostly
from the west coast of ireland and because they needed work.
time in the late fought is that there was. There was a job shortage, significant one and people were
people were dying because they couldn't feed themselves
and all these young guys had come over to london to get work and they were all working on building sites know labours,
Nobody was a skilled constructor
there were labours and they welcome,
me into their aims. I shudder a bedroom with one over the other
night. When we had dinner,
One of them he introduced me to have around. They were all irish and he said
when we did is over, we go out
as a pub round the corner that very irish friendly, and he said your name is Patrick. I mean
it couldn't be better.
Couldn't traditions where, on this leprechaun wake you
this experience that I mean, I think, is absolutely my mind. Blowing you were in
reduction in london
with the great vividly you become,
friendly with her and at one point
they are showing gone with the wind.
It was only released.
a new release. You know that have been smartened up untied it up and given new technology and because your friendly
She invites you to attend with her and she saw you sit next to Vivian way. You sit next to score.
what oh hara as you watch gone with the wind,
and, by the way, just to get the the sitting
problem. I was on her left side on her right side was a boyfriend
who was a leading actor in the company we working for which was the london over
company owns, were we were only
to our we didn't ever play in london.
and I mean first
This invitation was wonderful
but the reason being that I was the humblest member
The company I had been a last minute inclusion today,
we heard, rehearsals began, I got this offer and the
working hands on producer was a very unpleasant individual
he found he chose me as his one to go for
and he did one say in front of the whole company battery we're doing this in an inner in honour of building an you're at the bottom. So sit down, I mean
You you wouldn't get away with that today. I try
right now. Is that why you look at me barely adequately at rio was interview, you know a lunch and I know what I am to me: we're going leslie forbear testimonial, our so you're at this production yet
yeah, yeah yeah or employment with reading side by side and I'm so excited and thrilled and proud to be sitting alongside by the way
in a dinner jacket because we ve been told by the way
when you go and destroy, you must have dinner jacket. Scolding there'll, be a lot of formal part. Is jacket,
everyone, the dinner jacket and I went look. I could possibly afford one they were so I spent
but John cross road. There was
a used guy
men's used garment shop- and I went
and there was this tuxedo
and it was I dunno what it was made of, but it looked like a blanket and it was was huge and I think it was a blanket yeah. I think you've got time there like it yeah. I was sitting on one side of her and her gorgeous boyfriend,
sitting on the other side of the wearing of fabulous expire,
the suit and I saw the
She was touching her face quite often, and then finally, she
current events, you took my hand and she said, patrick
I have to leave.
This is so upset you see so many of these lovely people. I worked with a dead end,
upsetting me so much so
for sharing this. I hope you enjoy.
The night and she,
it happened. John walk
I was
touch. She could have just left,
you didn't have to say thank you for coming and very good of you and x
play into me why she was crying
was a soup, oh god, of of her day,
there was no actress today. That's ever been bigger than than Vivian was
to cut a mere words. I think as well wasn't just that you have fabulous. Looking
although she was a very, very nice person, but she had a temper. I saw
Once there was a wonderful actress who I cannot name but she's, dead too, who is playing a cat?
and when she had led him, oh very important roles and the during the cut.
Go one eyes. She was on one side of vivian. John was on the other side. I was back on another row and then at this other actress, lean
I heard her say something to the other.
As you know, was leaning forward whither
hear what it said, but a shoe,
standing up Vivian who are just
then presented with a bouquet of flowers lifted up on it,
across the face with a hooker for speaking of yeah. I butchered it. Apparently she had said something that Vivian didn't like didn't like the she
then later on, we learn that she had illnesses
and they were very problem,
magic, and indeed, I think, eight years later she died of this
I believe she might have had to
colossus or something I think it was a long issue, and she also had what do they call them?
because up and down you know, I don't know which
we're about that. Allow you to mental illness
Yes, yes, bipolar disease. I pole, which never show
in her work her and when it was great
leads to have known her and she was so kind and,
I celebrated my twenty fourth, but first birthday through apart,
and she came to my god. None of the other produces did vivian came and she gave me
a golden cotton handkerchief, which she had
sprinkle with perfume that she always will
surely one perfume which
called joy by pat to- and it was wonderful and for years
breathe vivian in from the handkerchief that she given me and then I moved on, went different places and
two years ago I found he asked
oh good. I was going to say if this thing is missing, how I'm waddling the smell was gone, but the memories
complex. We could get some dupe yes now, and I want to talk about cologne that men, where I've war at once,
The dream was
to be in the royal shakespeare company and you made it happen, which
this day of all of your accomplishments. It might be hard to top that
the one being in the rail shakespeare company from the moment that
several dominant put not have been,
into my hand, at the age of twelve right,
to the age of twenty four twenty five, by which time I
five or six years in rapid for theatre first weekly, then to weekly, I mean I mean
we played for weeks, and we put on the new show every monday night, then a fortnight than three weeks.
And then finally, at bristol old, vic, monthly, wrap and and and it was this was a plan it wasn't accidental. I was aiming to go up each year if I could, because my objective was the rosh expert
and then they have been to see other actors when I was in bristol and
but one of them who is left us may rest in peace, charlie, thomas
was only an assistant stage manager and playing little box and they caused him to roger.
They come here. They wanted him and across europe
I am why not me, why not me
this round is made all right. I tell you, I'm gonna come out of it. I am a contract, you know I mean people and other workers. Yolo becomes a car
yeah.
Charles, Xavier, oh, that you go know I'm a character yeah, especially in logan one x. While I was just saying it's fascinates me that
If the objective was always a royal shakespeare company, yes and you when we, you were not interested you'd had no ambitions and television, you didn't have ambition in film and then you know,
you're you're, doing quite well. You've achieved your dream and then at the age of I believe, forty five, forty six,
This possibility of this star trek show
you. You bring up jean luc picard you, this
comes along and where I was found
Seeing in an you verify the book, is you approach this as a shakespearian role? You took it, which I think is brilliant use
add out. This is a tv show, and this is a you know. Part of a generation of you know, there's an another star trek, I'm going to approach this as if it's
lira hamlet, that
the seriousness with which I am going to take this
It certainly served you well, it did, but
It also made me confident because
familiar with that. However, when I
came to review the first season of next generation I was in order,
Happy with the work done, I thought it was
two in turn:
two restrained to solitary to unconnected with
others. So I resolved that from the start of the second season. I would begin to opening up and let him out and that continue for seven years. Seventy,
and for me is and then
three citizens of the god which only rapid that fifteen months ago. It feels like
you started to. Let yourself have more fun. Is that what it is well? One of my
favorite moments in in the book is telling this cause. I haven't told it to many people that halfway through the first,
isn't that generation at than we were
a wonderful group of of actors I fell for Jonathan
and and marina gates, and all of them very soon and nevada and Michael. I must leave anybody out there s a lot and whoopi when she joined air, and am I
one day. I called a meeting because I I thought I'm captain of the enterprise
but because he led companies in the theater. I felt
This should be my role here, I'm leader not just of star trek of starfleet but of this ban people who are working these endless
days, twelve fourteen, sometimes sixty nowadays to get all
is done and so on
all this meeting and I said all right, listen
it seems to me you don't people don't understand, is that there are two sets of
work going on here is the work we do and the time off the we
occasionally
our day a long weekend and then
the rest of the crew and people in
office were here ever
a single day
looking brutal hours, we have got
make their lives easier, and the problem is
we are having too much fun. That was the phrase that has still not left me today. Yeah I mean I owe Jonathan breaks out to me: yeah, I'm sorry! We have too much from
yeah you got over it. That was your instincts and you got over it. Yes, yes, because it it was limiting yes, restricted, know and, and the old,
I guess, as I hope in part, this conversation is illustrated. I get looser and I attach
things are inside myself to my
outside life. For the first time that you came on the programme, I remembered I not met you
I just know you by this man. This man royal, shake
your company and so accomplished, and who am I to talk to him and-
You were funny
and delightful and self deprecating and silly, and I think
there was a real gift. There was a real gift.
See that if someone who's accomplished all this diskin can let go a little bit. That's a great that's a great gift to give to people. Thank you. It benefits me in my life,
things occasionally been said to me that have stock and had an impact. My first ever
day in front, which is in the book on in front of a camera, a film camera.
within a film called hennessy, which start rod Steiger and I had half a day's work.
Which was me and roads tiger in the back of a car, and I
the gun on them, and it was
once in the gus,
It didn't happen for me, I mean the character and
it's uh. It's a long anecdote. This I'm not even started from the beginning, but when
when rod learned that this was my first day on a film said. He said
Well, what are you doing for lunch? I know no. He said.
What are you doing for lunch?
and I said oh I I dunno, I mean what what do you do? You find a cafe is a no! No! No over there. There's a
The counter and a barn get what you want.
And bring into my trailer- and he said he saw a yacht bring it. So I did, and we had lunch sitting in his
He was one of my heroes. Yes, you might
think it should have been more than brando an
was it from on the waterfront. Yes, yes and the pawnbroker
which is what rod, won an academy award near
that scene with him and brando in the back.
The com in which were
pull the gun on brando unbundled goes off. Anxious moves it aside,
goosebumps goosebumps and anyway, one of the things he said to me
during this launch was just just as we are about to leave. He said, though, one thing worth remembering.
The camera photograph faults,
It was all and I have never forgotten so you do you think it
and the camera wilson, I watch other actors who I really admire.
immensely and the work that they do, and I said,
on them. Somebody might say that
face ass. He moved no.
Look at the eyes, it's full of faults, and you know you are involved and so
You say that because I just watch the other day unseen, it all the way through four years, the steed mcqueen movie bullet nineteenth
sixty eight and I watched it.
Stunned me is mcqueen barely
space and the whole movie
riveting a lot of it
people yelling at em, they're angry with him. You know,
isn't yeah yeah? We don't like the way you're running this investigation. What are you doing and it's him and his eyes slightly moving side to side and you see the wheels turning and
he's got all this coiled energy that he's not spending and it's fantastic if you're, not
the way the pressure
gotta, be doing something
I often fear with some young actors just to do less but think
The camera sees it all on its magical, but of course those.
Eyes: brando stagger
Jacob, even the recent all of whom, by the way I have met except for brando, I had an invitation from somebody
who was very close to him to go to his house upon them.
Top of the hollywood hills
appointment was set and I pulled out
on it said to me he's very difficult and all I have
Was this memory of this really end
believe of a real actor and I didn't want it to
strange, I want him to remain as he was when he moved rugs.
gun aside and just saw them.
Sadness in his face: it's it's a great job if, if you're lucky and you get the work to do
and, of course right now there is no work. Well, that's why you're
This book
younger ovid, and you wrote this book and the book is great and so many great
revelations in this book. I love reading about how you heard that frank Sinatra was a fan of star of your star trek and I just imagine frank sinatra. As a shadow punching somebody in as a shot star trek, the next generation
I just love that love that and- and I just I love that you, my favorite people have careers that define
categorization and I think that's you fit that beautifully, because it's there
so many different phases, you ve done so many different things you ve put on so many different hat, slash wigs and then you write this book, which is beautiful and ultimate ultimate respect.
really? This is this, mrs, quite an achievement and I love
that. You are still you still in it. You are still.
you still interested and try something new. You know you're still
trusted in what's next and I think have next what different yeah something new, please yeah yeah, I guess I get offered jobs,
raise your hands under that said, my aunt Jane leir, its face
yeah. That's not a bad idea. This they're not going to set you up an appointment, call Gavin, polone he'll, take care of you. I get it you're a percent. You get twenty
trust me. We can work on the numbers, but it's plenty and it doesn't change the fact he's gonna go to the generous gentleman hey. I I cannot thank you enough for taking time for
if you're a huge deal, and this is a this- is a big deal for us so making it so a memoir, Patrick Stewart, and if you don't buy this book, you're a fool you're, a fool: not
well, not that I'm looking at you, but you are not a fool, sir. You are far from a fool. You are a fool.
Yeah. I played touchstone once, but I played touch. You did oh yeah like the thistles, it's a good roll yeah and he's not just a funny he's kind of
tragic as well, which all the
If money ones are a boy underlying the nice ruin a momentary around the whole thing. Did I make it about my let's go again from the top sir Patrick Stuart onward and and break a leg
in all your endeavours. Thank you. Thank you very much.
I
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I like to support the people around me. Why is that the biggest laugh in a while? I do I liked you, lift an elevator those around my water may punch down and bear my joy. I only real joy is watching those around we thrive by the way. I'm I'm hostage right now, I'm being being held at gunpoint, vigorous it or did you know I I I do I'm happy, but then there are limits
there are limits and matt goarly, very talented fellow, you know, works on this podcast. You had so much to the chit chat
but then behind the scenes, your constant way making all these great at its and audio chow
ices and you're putting an altogether and getting it out to the people of the world. So I do commend you for that. But then you have these other projects and
I'm trying to think of the way to put this in an hour
you would ever dive
your eye from this, but this is
golden egg. This is a lightning in a bottle. What we have here and yet every time
My turn around you say: well, I gotta get going now. I'm gonna go work, unglued, do we glue,
and unlike what's that you, I gotta wits in one of my seven hundred other pod gas, that I do you have one
called mall walking is right, yeah, that's a culturally significant and important podcast for my friend mark and I just recorder cells walking through america's malls, and you ve been manhandled during that the directives recordings haven't. You have you yes, soda joined us once in we got kicked out.
If you make it sound like it was we got kicked out because of me know you were to do what did you shoplift just curious? How dare you? What did you will? One time have you shoplifted in the past? No well yeah. We went to a store that I did shoplift from and then we I apologize. Oh good. Alright, that's a and we bought something from the store to atone yeah. That's nice! Okay! Well, he met
If you have these other, you have, and you have a lot of other projects as well. It's true- and I look
does this moonlighting. This is my day job. This is, you know, I'm to take the serious you do
I mean I just worry that even the they
did before this by cast, but still I know but come on this,
But you know you're a guy, that's been
and around making little sculptures. And then you got a chance to work on
I mean this is the parthenon. It sits upon. Then. You know this is a massive structure that sets high mesa in.
Hill in athens and people look at it and marvel at its beauty. Corporate entity that rotting amerika from within the well apt analogy, is yet you say tomato, I say tomorrow, but the important thing is that you do have each other
guess and even I have to,
met, someone with a grinch shrivelled,
like me. I have to admit that you do have these other ideas that sound cool and you have other projects that that sound like they're kind of interesting and you ve got this new one that I heard about Adam mentioned it to me in the hall today and I said, wait a minute.
Since a really good idea. I listen to that
I wanted to bring it up on the air,
very nice of you. I mean I will say that my podcasts are stupid. This one is legit
this area die in it. I tell you why, because I met my wife and I are doing it together and she adds a level of respectability that I cannot bring. Will ok, let's talk about this, because the project that you're working on is called keys to the kingdom and which interesting is it's about the experience of working at a theme park
the first well, that's how you met your wife. That's right! We're both recurring theme park employs. She was a former princess. She played a bunch of princesses. I was just kind of a backdoor performer improv person then, and we met at universal studios that we both worked. It does,
together and through the years we were beset, do crazy stories of shit. That goes on that you wouldn't believe in this
pike asked is like a episode doc. You series of people telling stories about when they work there. You guys are the house and then you're talking to a bunch of people. You know who were coming forward in just telling you the funny crazy things that happen to them. While they are working in theme parks and some people, we don't know in some people actually that are going under, assumed names and having their voices changed because three, there
Worried about job security or past jobs care they might even work there in they still don't wanna upset certain theme parks, it's kind of a tongue in cheek, watergate, expos a oh. He thought I mean I've got the original watergate ex was a kind of tongue in cheek or treating it like we're
Busting, the lid off something when I fact were just having a good time with some stories that are really ridiculous. Some stories that are kind of spooky and then soda was a guest as well, and she tells her story of getting busted by the disney police trying to smuggle inedibles yeah yeah. I did ya and also you don't even need to tell me what it was cause you could get. It started gonna in trouble,
for it usually revolves around a certain theme but peace to the kingdom and how to people listen to keep to the gates of anywhere. You can find podcast it's out now. You can subscribe on any pike. Ass player, there's also eight behind the scenes bonus episodes with extra material that you can get in the show notes of the past. Like I said, I would listen to this because, as someone who, every time I go to a theme park, my mind is racing wondering what's really going on geography and there's no way to find out, because you can't just ask people, but it sounds like you of
Blown the lid off this story is a crazy creepy call.
to be out of it
so all respect to these major companies- oh god, and I look forward to doing business with you in the future, because I didn't just say that anyway,.
look out for keys to the kingdom. I'm excited for you! Thank you. This is very nice of you to do too, but what this will? Never air jobs you not even being recorded in I'll make sure this never ever air sector. I just want points for doing it and then just make sure it never really happens. Cool! That's
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