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scared. So I wrote about James ardent their morning. I'm would be talking about harden and
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rigour and, last but not least, the return of million dollar pick side, never pakistan to them
in the east coast. The swedes are holding me hostage, didn't spotify stuff
So I've been on the east coast are weak and it's been super nice. I get to go to boston
night and see my my lovely daughter can wait for that, and I would always come back to these
if it was like in the seventies and eighties like this is wonderful, congratulations! These costs, you finally pulled it off. Let's get to the pack ass the spring there
friends from roger. I want to talk about gene siredon, Russell whisper, ass. It grew up together in Oklahoma, city westbrook was the away draft and hard on Wednesday nine draft. They played an that's thunder team. It made the financing two thousand twelve
at times they train right after that
it's not a rivalry, it's not a feud, and yet
they ve been linked together for the last fifteen years in the strangest possible ways now about to be linked together again, it seems like the clippers.
and be the salvation trade for the six years yet. But I cannot these reports
today about they almost
inform this this summer they actually offered an unprotected first, which I had heard before,
It just seems like maybe that's
sure were hard and goes with interesting, as westbrook is already there and
You could argue that westbrook makes more sense for the clippers than hardened does. But then this goes back to the whole was
versus hardened thing. You know there's different kinds of
there's that get linked so yeah.
wag, the eternal players words Russell,
well, they're, just linked together. There always gonna be together bird, a magic, shack and copy
elgin and jerry
in the broad right, those guys they're. Just
they just kind of go hand in hand. You get a specific era or it's a robbery or their teammates whatever it is.
as the ones that always get thrown together, because you know they get compared
other. The whole career, like I feel like Duncan, inter, were like this as an magic gave. No magic was the one that kind of wonder when the war
for years and years. You know that was a real argument who would rather have katy,
in the broad god there in the mid two thousand tonnes for a few years,
Malone embargo is my favorite. I did a home when I wrote my basque, my book at it a doktor jack breakdown, but the ones where, during the duration, their careers, you couldn't help but compare them against each other and then there's a spin off for that where
That was the case for a little while and then there is an eventual winner, so let cook came in.
Robinson those guys got compared to each other latin that had came just ass, said you're over him, safer, lair bird, that your J I feel like jerry west, got them
the rascal robertson. Eventually, we saw
this year with the gin and bead currying Chris Paul. There is a stretch soured as I go.
paul, he's the alpha and encourages pass them.
harden and russ. I don't know
really who had the upper head on? Who I had when I did my pyramids? I did another pass added this summer and I had westbrook as this
the third best player of all time,
I had a hard and as the forty third best per about time
so hard and winds and the pyramid and hard, and I think, tat, a fire and career had six first teams.
One second theme on beer. One third game: he won an empty p. Six top five finishes: weisberger Solana, BP, to first teams; five, second teams,
so hard and slightly better career. Then you go to the stats and it gets a little closer Russell is based
wanted to seven and eight guy forty four,
percent shooting. That is good. Three point shooting is, as harden
the seasons,
most eleven hundred games, but in the play of stats go up.
Hundred sixteen play games. So far, twenty five seven and eight forty one percent shooting
his plan resume made the two thousand to a final. She was the second best.
It has eleven western finals, two thousand and fourteen and sixteen western finals.
He won two points
aim scoring titles and then three, as
this titles and
was famously had that brought the triple double back. He averaged a triple double for four straight seasons. As you know, I don't care about triple doubles, but it was cool, nobody's done it since oscar harden twenty five
seven and six for his career, better, statistically forty four thirty six. Eighty three
percentages. Fourteen seas,
the thousand games above them are super durable and the placid drops he's down twenty three,
Five and six the fuel go percentage down to forty two percent
and from an vp standpoint. Six top five finishes play off raspberries about the same. They both by the two thousand and five thousand
it does leavenworth western conference banners harden as the best player made, the western finals in fifteen and eighteen,
you could argue and he came closer to winning a title.
Then he added any other point is greater than the does for finals. You could say the same for westbrook of quite thompson doesn't get hot and the two thousand sixteen western finals
maybe they be cleveland in the finance above them have a little. What, if thing and then his version the trouble
well seasons here
a crazy run. Hammers. Thirty six point: one points a game for an entire season, which was I
since banco germany outside the thirty four point three, so it's weird
closer than I thought you know, and then you go leg, I what characteristics they have in common while they both started with ok, see both
broad, durable,
hi usage, guys for better and worse, they always succeeded
most when the bow revolved around them. The most wasn't necessarily grave for the team,
and they always had to find players to put around them that made them succeed,
sometimes at the expense of the team. The stats are pretty soon
as we discovered they, both play for four teams. Westbrook sound five hardens about to be five they're, both thirty four years old.
They're. Both super polarizing- I think these are
Abby other than to wait, howard, the two
We must polarizing guys in the last twenty years and-
but a lot arguments and a debates about. Could you actually when a title? If this
Es guy or second best guy- and I remember- I wrote a guy
about westbrook back in two thousand twelve there in the files cod. That boy
competed, and it was about how great westbrook was, despite the
it's obvious! Why that he had that he was just kind of out of control, sometimes, and sometimes at the worst possible times like in the finals game. After I wrote that com
and that was when I came up with the idea that ninety ten guide, the guy who's, ninety percent perfect. But there's that ten
said the drives you're crazy and with some guys
stands out more than others and with westbrook his ten percent was the most glaring
flashing horns, ten percent, you ever seen your life than that's where we start about them
Both of them were really disappointing in the glass. Like, let's be honest, I guy
we talk about like what are the great westboro play off moments. You'd have some trouble leg,
especially after durant left, like really. Nothing happened with him in the playoffs and two thousand, and sixteen he wasn't great. Two thousand and four
seen he really late? It's a chris Paul and quicker series that was probably his personal highlight for that. But then harden I mean that
oh god, I'm the quorum alone are the play. Ass are the calm alot of guards. Sokolow said that on my book about bob,
guess I four years ago, and it was like two terrible hearted plan performances, go
he goes down as this century's worst policies and performer priscilla was, on my part ass, that sunday and
said he should be in the quarter hall of fame. So that's it
We stand on hearted
What have they peace there, both really flawed in
sense of yours, superstar, you shouldn't have flaws that are as glaring as the plaza. These guys have hardens case. You know, does
by the offence, disappears at the workplace.
times westbrook it's the tent
sent they now he mentioned the same thing,
it makes westboro great is also the thing that terrifies you the most then a big game, because he thinks he's the best player in the world at all times. So, with fifty seconds left, all of a sudden he's taken a three year driving basket. This way he didn't work with the lakers and they also have the
an extra skill beyond what you think their they're is as carbon is phenomenal passer when he wants to be westbrook, is
one, the best rebounding guards of all time. He really is.
Is a phenomenal rebound earn. It was something coopers tapped tapped into in the of slashed areas in as it is mid thirties, and his, though, still had that quality
them where they belong to a city. I still five oklahoma city loves russ. I still feel like you
the months hard and even as the rockets organization didn't want them to come back, they both broke up with J D,
they're, both one of a kind. I've never seen a player like either them. I have never seen anyone like westbrook
There was a moment when it was I came in. There grows there were aligned just as these.
brad. What kind of many leubronn point guards witches
didn't see anybody before with speed athleticism that rose bitterly breakdown, westbrook still going is started for the covers, so you don't you think about like them, the the
Big, big big flaws that I mentioned earlier. That grass was the boy
dominance and the usage raids that
the second highest use a drink. I about time.
Literally about type his number two of anyone. Who's ever played basketball. He has the highest usage rate, the statistically, like that the fuel percentage there's a bunch
where's, the damn true shooting percentage ton of turnovers.
In the end, a game stuff is in great hardens little different, like he quit on three teams.
this is the new record. This is like keys like dementias. Fifty six came industry. We're never gonna, see this again. The defence
You mentioned the high usage bear somewhere to westbrook he's eleventh all time. Westbrook second was is, I think,
two percent use a great and hard and was at thirty and the play of flame ass. You know that those are what they are bathing back there
who does the night there, above all in the same team in heart and adapt. It looks like he has a chance to be. Ok, see you, Norway,
seems like the best case scenario, those three.
Here's below Nora saw the way through the two thousand twelve finals. It
Every gonna, like advantage harden advantage ross back and forth, is winning rust ones
first four years, but he was a year older, Harding gets traded, turkey see hard and basically
takes over at least for two thousand and thirteen and two thousand fourteen, and probably two thousand fifteen from russ
and- and that was very hard and brought Houston to the two thousand and fifteen western finals, although they should have lost to the clippers and they yanked him and he put the towel over his head and it was maybe not even a top three james r quinney performance, but a chorus.
cora brewer adjustments aid. This ass tremor risa there
an advantage back to rest for the two thousand fifteen sixteen season and then the next season. When he wins the m vp, then it's
Back to harden and hard and puts together to awesome years,
he culminating in where you could argue correspond, doesn't get hurt against the workers, may be there when the title there. I I dunno week it still remain:
to be seen whether you can win four straight playoff rounds,
with that bob dominant luca hardened,
buzz thou up
boy, but when I see it, then they play together into
as a nineteen twenty that season, which was turned out to be the bubbles
but there was a really fun stretch their where they just basically dump the centre position, spread the
where and just attack the basket with harden and westbrook, so I'm giving them a draw, because that was really fun, then, all of a sudden that the playoffs fell apart and twenty,
The twenty two probably harden cause westbrook career starts going sideways in that
goes until last season, which, at that point harden was plain, really well fulfilling
westbrook. Clearly, beggar was over and the lakers see now his is
simply pariah. We write em off the branch
throw them under the bus.
The browser when they traded for him, and then the brown is one trying to train them. Russ took it very personally
You probably should have and has the
happiest for five months there in a really
seems, like his careers can be over then finds the found youth, the clippers,
and now he has the advantage again in this bizarre
it's not a robber. It's not a feud. It's just these two cars driving next to each other in the highway, but rust,
then the driver's seat she's the one that signed the clippers he.
smart enough to take less money to be in a good situation: hard
was the one who opt in
five billion and then said I am unhappy. I'm never reported this organization, you have that it buddy
but now he wants to get straight to the papers in the way
my play out as either they're gonna play together on their third team in the patent
In the last I guess twelve
Here's dated back to two thousand twelve. There will be three different cities together, which is crazy, or
aspirants gonna, be the reason that they dont trade for hearted, and if you
you talk about who has the advantage again. I had hardly higher and the pyramid, but russ other than his lakers such
isn't shouldn't even then, like a lot of the quotes from the acres, were what an awesome team eddie was. He knows in the worst situation, ever everybody loves russ. As a teammate- and I think that has to matter if you're, comparing the players-
the hard and thing you know it's there? It's not
if the guy's linda bailout man, james wow,
love by with that guy, it's
little more silent on that front, the westbrook thing like there is a whole story how he bought out these iphones for the clippers and he
then the leader the team has been organised. A data later can go out of the talk
but he's really embrace did now his you know, and the three point eight million are contract is about it.
Thirty five years old looks like his career
This may be the last chance for him, but he's kind of embraced it and he's one
guys that he's such an inquiry,
lastly, it is maybe won't be.
Surprisingly, place three former years I dunno. If you can win to play
answer them, but the him looking
mostly like him since rio,
the card and, on the other hand, looks I give it
work out the clippers. I don't know what happens then
If you compare in these two guys sincerely,
nine.
And you said westwards
You're gonna, be in the league playing for a team and hard and isn't, I think, the odds even like three years ago, with Ben.
plus seven hundred unfeigned, though, and instead westbrook inexplicably
kind of in the driver's seat. So what happens on the clippers trade for hearted and if they trade
art, and can these guys coexist again because we watched it in that it as they did twenty season, they flamed
the playoffs, then than hard
That was when he got super unhappy was recipes that out an hour there. Still friends, I don't know they don't really
extends together as basketball, verbs cause the usage rate thing ingest,
oh, I would run from James harden- lay dead set. If you could add three teams, I don't care. How did you I want no part of you, but if you the clippers
this new arena next year year, just thrown should against the wall and
I care about you. Does it twenty nine unprotected peck, and maybe you don't even care if you give up norman pal, you want to be
this, you don't want to be irrelevant. The one thing you can't be
with one near left on your old stated before you move into this power stages. Building a word is to be relevant.
So that's why they're gonna, probably trading for james heart and which I think was conceived bond through this week and then we're
With this weird westboro cardan situation,
they rivals. Are they friend homies? What are they? I have no fucking clue, but
I think hard and that a slightly better career- and yet, if I could have one guy over the course of fifteen years,
and you gave me fifteen years- a james hardener, fifteen years- arrests westbrook, I know I know it makes more sense
a garden- and I know his suing- was slightly higher, but I think I'd take westbrook again. I had
hard and forty third in the pyramid in ahead, westbrook sixty third but west,
always gave a shit in weather
it was misguided whether he out,
himself into higher than esteem whether he was enabled with bad habits. I don't know, but I always
lag view. Just gonna, say: leg hooty trust me
over a fifteen year span to just give a shit, I would say: west
so would be ironic if the coopers decided not to trade for james harden, because there was Russell westbrook, and I think that would be
maybe the final win and whatever the hell. You call this this friend or me, rivalry team, eighty, whatever it as well
broken hearted, there's been no pair.
A combination of this in the history. The whig I'm just tonia, I wrote the book a basque by shadow.
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together. That's my fault that has a button powerful ball favour. Football teams are
pretty much already dead.
I don't know who we're shaped the paths of the january. We get that I'm gonna play
oh game with. You could do you believe,
and you can care about made too. You don't even know it's on my list or at do you believe that that that
Then you have to tell me if you believe, read up with so number one
You believe the giants of this bad
Do not believe the giants are those that I am shocked. The giants this bad. I am befuddled at how it got so bad.
You ve been a near a couple days. The back page than your post every single day has been a different
on related to how bad the giants are.
yesterday was strife of Brian, a really relevant, timely?
they pipeline pond a downright enable during a tablet. Added
quarterback than today
Evan neil the second year. First rail package goes then says the most absurd thing to say new york's as they like
Does the quote about a lion? Doesn't listen to the opinion,
sheep and then says the guy in the crowd booing us. What's he do for his life?
flips burgers are hot man, and the last thing you can say: no, we hardly sixty years of evidence that, back
in our hands to new york sports radio, guys like
we've been through some changes of late on w F, a n and e s, p, n radio, and it's kind of like we're kind of good. They finally got there like dama,
johnny has been radio and absolutely bankers and like every fair
This is what they needed like that everywhere elected, but in all honesty bill to home games both on national tv, they ve outskirts sixty four three, the first
stuff is crazy. Now, no day balls was a big second half adjustments guy last year, but the first have in competence is almost unprecedented in there
They're not great on offence, them add some injuries their left tackle been in now, but it shouldn't be this
you look at the schedule. Dallas I get it son and I doubt is fired up who knew their defense was echoed.
They barely beat arizona, but it turns out
as you know, there frisky that's it,
as bad as ok. We too they get slaughtered by san Francisco. Again, not bad
but the Monday night, one where the only put up three points against
Otto had team that nobody even knew of their defences have decent much less. You no good and they just got.
Ass. He kicked in their game and then the bigger thing to me triggers the dainty dimes would be the pics sex is lacking,
talking about this honour and when the shell and so lack on a ringer found Monday about how stupid it was not franchise tag him, which
I felt like at the time- and I no light there. Maybe you get worried is gonna hold out, but why didn't they franchise tag him, which are and tell him that yeah
so they didn't want to pay him last off season. He didn't pick up his video option here.
to this lengthy negotiation that drags on right through the combine and everyone's in india like. Is it going to happen? It's going to happen, and it doesn't happen a week before the deadline for for free agency
irs agents, fires, always agents at CIA who have been with them since the start in you, I don't that I don't think it necessary
laser reflection of the player. This is more of a big business's hires athletes. One athletes first.
Gets in the room and they hammer out a deal, and it's one of these feelings where it's like were the giants in a car
on this one. Did they ever want to pay their if you
firing his original agents, because
Couldn't get the money he wanted from the giants has higher new aid. Is the money is not is not
in a apply the water what they were offering anyway, but to get to that point where there's a franchise quarterback and
He didn't want to do it last year. He didn't wanna, do it during the season. He the guys, could fire his representation, because he'd expected more and then you finally do it and everyone
who are part of the deal. Of course, as you know, in these numbers are reported at all, my god got it, and then you do a little dig deeper dive like it
turning to your deal. They can get out of this thing after two years, but these two years are a albatross on the seller. A cap of this guy isn't the franchise quarter
and it sets them back in a lot of ways. Why didn't they franchise had been, but because they figured ok. This guy went in one hour
would play a game last year. It's easy for so lacking a lot of us in the media to go away to. Second, in hindsight, he never was the guy. He was the guy. Last year, Eddie fifa enables
very well last year and he's book I heard
I don't know, I don't understand the franchise tag because it such leverage for the team and such non leverage for the player.
That even the baltimore, with with Lamar
is way better than Daniel Jones, but the franchise tag becomes a thing right in the
time you dont want to use it if its with somebody like my homes or borough, people like that when you're talkin
somebody that we don't know of is the eleventh basket
back in the or the nineteenth best quarterback leg, whatever I'd like to
They one more year sab better, a better idea that we just put
Soft schedule azure did with. Was that a fluke kenny repeated?
then I'm ready to give him malta years either. I just felt like they panicked. I also think there's a
psychological lift of your our guy, we're not going to franchise tag ye. We we feel and what the alternatives were, what they didn't have a top ten pick, so they weren't getting stroud they weren't getting
were young, they weren't gonna, get richard sense. A now you're talkin about maybe we'll levis slips through us, ok with and if that's the case may be wages bite the bullet this season.
Daniel Jones walk he signed somewhere, and then we hot we sign or jacoby brissett or a tyrod taylor. Who are we go with tyrod taylor, whatever it is, and how do you look at your fanbase after they? They just went.
one of the five top eight teams. So you're saying there is like a little bit of arrest that eventually it works out badly if he was actually as good as the sixers already let him walk out the building too.
Liar, but now the giants fans are apoplectic about it through their bus driver, the season with their first DR other seas,
and they got the feel go kicked and if that, like the entire life of the giant, some second ghostbusters just got sucked out of a bamboo say, as is their right.
If you don't doubt, I can't imagine it gets much better. The next two weeks they play the dolphins at one o clock in the heat, this
this week and then it go sunday night to the bills, and it's like right be one in five
To that end, the one which was like
we barely went outside their defense was gonna, be better at that their pay,
the was gonna be a lot more potent and I felt like all the stuff we saw last
here was gonna grow up. I had them,
over seven have whence I thought they could get tonight and potential
seven seat in the end, have see who knows
it may be that a sitting, but a doubt of daring waller. I do that and if that network show good morning football, we had.
mrs labour, all like, I know the fantasy stuff. It's like. I get exasperated with it, sometimes, because what I fancy expert, exe
is he comes on and tells me who talk like that
wars, gonna have a hundred and twenty catches and have twelve hundred. Why? Why why? Why do you think that
Did you try out? I guess I think the giants works.
about their waller, but we put this expectation that Cornwall has been invisible. Parish campbell was a big for agencies,
You haven't done that yet I I went out guessed and then you are going through it.
Michael Gian high. It fell the third round. Everyone expected him to be,
It is either did the deep travel
he was a programme peg like we'll see what outright and then bartley gets around her in time. If they get their, it sounds like you have and closed the door and them, though, just as they occur or something else.
There really well coached this. This team went to the
last year they want. A lot of close games is neither some inexperience raw buncher rookies, like they ve got there
guys in there that have won its falling apart at the seams? I have to imagine they can can at least save the second half of the seas, and that's how I look at it, but it is probably gonna get worse before it gets
are the next two weeks, while to me they're one of the fork in the road teams this week could see us. Now. We have four weeks of evidence. You can really study a lot of the data and it's not a small thing.
besides anymore, they bigger
killed by miami this week, that's a rap westward done that. That's it! It's not gonna happen for them
do another euro seattle. I watched the game the week before enough enough was watching television
That game was a blow I put over seahawks carolina clouds, intrigue, Andy, don't
went up and down the field on that seahawks defray the seahawks events with the job.
Having eleven days to prepare so they put on third,
night and monday night, without a by that's the biggest gap between engineer to prepare?
One t one defence. Yet I had put up three points in a pic six and the sea
Stevens, although their young and could be there, not the seventy. Eight steel earth
eighty five bears like. So, if that's the case, I don't where we go from there. Yet
Indeed Dalton in that game, he through four three hundred sixty one yards, and they had twenty three first out, seventeen passing
I don't make, because I I was going to take Sarah for a million dollar picks last week and that game scared me so
I urge that a backed off and then by monday, MIKE, you know out fuck it I'm betting, sierra another. Do you believe that ties into the fork in the road thing
Do you believe Cincinnati is done? This isn't ok. So the answer is
the end, MR pollyanna here not done, but there, the box or on the ropes right now the eighth and a more independent twice in its second hand, sit around and they might, they might be dagger ring the f c north. There is not there, isn't it,
runaway for no team right now. I know the ravens are three and one and have looked good, but they're still a work in progress and a lot of ways to do Joe burrow.
Reinjured it a little bit against the rams with immobile against the rams and they found a way to win,
found the way the link as the rams live tackle got her said. Their tax enjoyed our and out in this past week. I
Would any one in iran are good money for bomb like Jeffrey, sim, internet tennessee, defensive wine will eat borough alive this week. I thought
and that was a very vogue invoke picnic
Instead, the bengal areas would be twenty seven. The three borough apparent,
had a really good make a practice. They had a couple come to Jesus mobile.
This week I told this is the game like this is the way
we ought to figure it out if Cincinnati falls bind in their suddenly one in full
in the ravens
foreign wan and would ok, that's a big gap and of course the ravens would have would have the advantage over them.
So they're in areas owner and their three point favorites and their three point favorites, despite the fact that air
has paid much better than in the shared none better. Much better. Since he's got forty nine points all season there thirtieth and first downs, fifty eight oral they ve only made for twenty plus place explosive plays the vet for the Jamar chase. Higgins's hurt,
they're, giving up a hundred and fifty seven rush yards per game, which is second, alas, that's that bless them. I checked your bird as employed defect,
Now there are the rider algae. Tajikistan is running all over. My sweet thereof are under four one
it's before the year was eleven and a half and we loved the under. We thought that that's way too high, especially berserk, I feel like you can cash that in this feels like. If you lose this game, it
and, if you're, arizona, the what an unbelievable,
but you're home dog. Any looked really good all season for what
but I really there over under was born of wines,
great at home this year they gave the giants beds and then they beat the cowboys. Would you play ball?
but they have had on here. If you were this week ago, kara cardinals this week, that seems to be not the easiest opponent, but it's an opponent.
It's not one of the titans of the league. Obviously, would you say rest and this week or as is, do or die
He says he wants to play. We gotta play because ass was what, during the press
for them, is. I think people learn from the rams game that basically there,
what they're doing, but he can't move and,
cares our new offence based around the fact that this guy can't move so there,
we gotta last week you down there plant tennessee
intensive like this. Guy can't move this will be great and what is we'll play will will player
now that you won't have founded thirty by that, so I who's the back up its ganem jake brown
and they they recently resigned Aj Mccarron, who is out of football for a year right. So that's why you have to even on one leg he's better than wherever you have out there and
My life is one of those guys, like I'm good, and if you displayed in this money,
and he's taken, you do a super bowl and nfc championship your game and the seasons and aligning says he's good like exactly.
Let us set him down and they actually dont think you're. Good. Now he's gonna play the bigger problem,
them as arizona might actually be pretty get like now. They date legitimate
be. Doubtless they ran all down their throats. There have been a little ways they had read zone stops like they were legitimately good. Last week they hung with him
discover within two hours and manages the game got away about a little little. Something
a coach and everyone openly mocked completely dismay.
I thought study was a clown. The way he was a little awkward with the pew pew pew jonathan gannon team plays every
single week. The eagles defense has not look the same since he left so giant
and they ve got such a young staff in arizona the bill summits, pockets. We talk, arizona, cardinals football
but I'm tellin you their funding to watch and the guy
twenty nine year old defensive coordinator of thirty four year old office of coordinator, a coach in his early forties like their young. They have no superstars, I'm a team
and those guys go out there and they play their ass off and it's it's hard not to root for a team like that salas
man Sunday we'd rather mac jones or josh
abs, and I said not only would I rather have josh to Dobbs. I would throw in a third round pick to get Josh dobbs if they would take MAC jones off my hands. Josh Dobbs. He looked good enough last year that it's hard for me to believe he could just be plucked off a practice squad in august, like how does that happen? Well,
those guys are late round pick he's a third stringer in pittsburgh forever, where he's beloved, and then he ends up in cleveland as ever.
look well, that's his that's what he is he's a third,
third stringer, and he's a good guys and your practice god. But then these guys, whether ten
or its menchu shoe or josh macao year after year after year. Sometimes these guys out play their draft status, but there's
to such a label, a bow use of her fair impact than he could play quarterback everyone so tied to their draft analysis in what they had. These guys come out of
but then I look at the player in the man and what he's done
fell, which jobs at a a pretty nice nfl career has been a survivor and everything we place because well, I wish she was
The patriots next day believe I know the answer.
Yes, but I'm just setting up I'm basically, like I'm leg concerning value, bundeswehr g believe baker may filled his back. Ah, yes, I don't think he ever left him
that rigour
he's been here. The whole fucking been here the whole fucking time. Yes, I I do a podcast.
It's for I heart the nfl called the season with Peter schrager and I bring on current executives and coaches as my guests and it's their bye week. So I
jason, light gm who's, been there gm since twenty fourteen. So he was therefore all the james seers, the roberto acquired
like he's been or has been around you survive dinner and they,
when a super bowl and everyone's I yeah, but but bread
It was the reason that Brady retires, and it's like this really pivotal year and everyone said tampa- is either the thirty first or thirty second team in the league. What is
I, by my conversation with jason, is that baker was courted by the buccaneers.
they had called trask they're gonna, probably go that direction. Baker accorded them baker. Look at the roster, obviously thought there were still some town.
Baker saw an opportunity to start in the nfl and was like I can out play kyle trask in training camp called cast tracks. Gotta find training. Camp baker was the dude
was the pied. Piper baker goes in there and just wills. His way to being starting gig wins the starting job. They go out there and they finished
seize and no one's picking the box to do anything. Baker takes all the offence of wine men and flies them to buy hammers for a trip of gulf.
till I get to know them better and for them to know him and immediately as just little things this situations like, I will get texts.
Throughout the season, and it's never nefarious its everything bad. I just saw baker.
mayfield out at this random bar and Tampa called like the press box and he's with four offensive linemen in it. The tuesday.
And he's having dinner or bigger may feel that this random. You know
of an entire baby brought my governs increase godwin with a baker?
If you know he wasn't had the weather
there. The temper barriers playing games could delay nineteen thousand people tat. He was there all. Joking aside, I pity
but there are costs caused. Contrary because he's going
razor and apparently he's like a rangers fan and the rangers fans were upset that he was my reaction, but he was one of the nineteen thousand in saint peat which, by the way, while congrats come on
come on I'll be around. If you can get the twenty five thousand by a baseball game, you lose your pictures, bakers, kind of, like
build his way there and then on the field? You see him. He talks the shit
hey stiff arm, byron, murphy and we're gonna fell. Films gets amadeo, japanese, like till the coroner baggage.
wait up and like that that stuff, it sounds, corti roy, your idea,
loving it their offensive. Lyman love this dude the fan base gravitating around it. Can he play football? He can play football. He was a first hour I'll pick a husband when I took the brown the first play off came in twenty six years ago and that play off cape. He messed up his shoulder played through it.
is immediately kicked the curb for de sean watson and whether that decision, their regret in cleveland, will see down the road and see how that goes. But then he has to go on this like journey.
from Carolina who s a bit out seemed arnold. He does then he's discarded from them.
The rams bring em on it. I know I talked him again
in those guys. All the time they absolutely loved baker, mayfield staffer gas baker, mayfield and now
here were finally another quarterback want it's cool redemption story. It's a week, five by weak, so we'll see
were in a month, but they ve got a huge game
out of the by their home against the lions, and there were in their cream circles and like theirs,
I right now in temper, where you have this team of
irish who won a super bowl.
Brady, and they saw everyone put them at thirty. Two in the power rankings in a corner back whose done a lot in this league was kind of kick to the car by three
from does along the way, and oh yeah
thirty others who they want em on their team, so the cool marriage do, I think, the box when the end of this out, I don't know things. Defence is good, but temperatures went in there. It's the superdome gonna gave him the business.
So there is a lad there. I think that thing that I do not understand is why he was so bad and carolina, because you could make an excuse for the last part of cleveland cause. He was hurt right and we again bush on the package from quit.
before the season and he was saying how beloved baker was in cleveland.
I had no idea like like a legitimately beloved guy in the city and
used to read from so that that's interesting, but he was to carolina. Stinks
goes to the rams had some flashes
and I know mcveigh in those guys like them and he had at first
in a game when he was arrested. They also beat the broncos on christmas with Russell wilson like he lit it. Up like he was really good with the rams. Are a midseason pickup yeah thanks yeah, so okay, so that the the carolina thing traded late in the off season? I dunno
I'll say: dollar carolina. They want again this year, so it it's like. You see him left that, but
they're, not necessarily a squad had somewhat stability. They find their coach.
Turn that coach went and got him. I'm donald shocked by because it's not like it's true biscuit suddenly became good,
black, while there were numerous advantages, Josh Rosen, shows up and is now creating yet now
he's had success its
Before the year and of course I just screwed up so much about this year and I knew it, I knew it as loaded. I do we over thought it no weed
Is it over an and that all the chalk teams the share out? I would listen to like the the really smart pods
the sole lack and she'll the ringer gambling shown all the other parts and everybody was again buffalo
Kansas city was all the same teams. I could never works away, but if you go to the west of, I cannot
believe they made the playoffs, which I had before the year.
everybody plus two, eighty five in up to make way ass. Those of the odd says basically, three two one adds up,
and every year, there's like one or two teams from this list. I couldn't find anyone on the list, but the list was rams washed in indy Tampa, plus three sixty vegas, Houston, plus five,
when arizona plus nine eighty they're not gonna, make it billig use that plus five point.
when they see sal they do and to my own annesley sats. I wish I were but were thought, but the baker thing, I'm sure, there's teams kickin themselves, I the patron
probably one of em. How ready for baker before the draft member health
Yes, I was way
when, and that was the tipp- that we got if didn't go first over all new england might have met when they were gonna move up there? He is
so I wonder whether it would be so financially sucks. The next week's where they might trade. Your item is that their baker bay failed, so bad that it is rather an internet options.
nothing easier to jump on a bandwagon after the team start strain. One trust me I get it. He is this. This is how jason
the gm described him like, and it's still sophomore can it so you roll your eyes like he's a dude anything,
guys guy and easy walks in that room and a leader. It has always been that guy and always that right himself, I think
oh jack legs,
I do think we organise harry's himself and I put that port- that video clip
of his gm raven about him up there in it, it's got like fire.
million views and I'd say it's got all these these tweets back and bought a brown fans being like hell. Yeah baker, like the amount of brown spans
back in water cool story for him, like a baker, just our right to show
it's better than you anything we're living in
Money is different. Obviously the salaries are different, but here
but three in one and the browns they're, not my certain as less baggage. That now the show matson
trying to find the come back where the year adds, which I cannot find, but
You d hamelin, who played last week
to who seem like he was gonna returned
in February and then baker mayfield, who was just
dead on the fuckin scrap heap. So pretty get I we? U bench about jack, we're talking about him,
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I don't find a I don't. I don't. I don't think he wants to end. I don't think he wants to finish it. I don't think they fire him and I think they give him one more chance to get this thing right next year,
it sounds so blasphemous, especially christians, Alice going down in their being absolute zero. Hopefully forget about that judah. Yet we have to get out of it. Ass. The pencil where's last week
I think, he's obsessed with the schuller record. I don't think it's a I just. I can't see, after this sustained run of excellence, that Bela check and end on this season
This no and I dont think Robert Crawford
much as we know you and I that he wants to win desperately- and he is sick of not being in the playoffs and for every hamptons,
and every big michael reuben, of any that there is the old patriots there around him and the the the the surroundings of championships and wins. I can't see him kicking bilbil
to the curb on one year. One year's performance in one year's notice effect this. It have to be a longer discussion and there has to be a graceful exit for bilbil check. I can't
he belgic stepping away after the season and truly I can't see craft firing him. Can you.
Many do a semi zag who has a bleaker situation in there.
I see seen the patriots right now. Perhaps nobody, I would say denver.
Right, denver in a similar spot. Their defence is the most abominable defense. We ve had less for decades that this guy was.
contract and they have a first round pick this year, but not next year. The pats who, just if you go back the last couple dry
that we all felt good about they suddenly don't look as good. This year's draft looks really good, but then you lose Gonzalez offensively you could you could talk me
it's just put in the entire offense on waivers they get le. Who are my keepers and that often like, maybe even call strange first
packing you talk to anybody know any more often survival isaac day there. There often suppliers range from Al Qaeda
and reminds re who is supposed to fence what happened to him. He hears why. I think he could be done, because I do think he wants a shoe record and lets say. Let's say this chargers thing. You know
Ellie just seems like he's, trying to get fired every week with at least one decision where he's just like watch this gopher around thirty again with a cuban
as one hand there to reminder centre
here too it is ridiculous, but if I'm ballot jack- and I want to break their record-
am I breaking in new england winning sees games a year. This is a real zack. You think here somewhere else at seventy two years old. What if the chargers? Now the charges are,
sheep. That would be that the one way this doesn't were born of the charges were leg. Hey we just herbert,
right into the sunset with us here, los angeles, while trying to think of her the raised or years dick four meals, the historical
prince. It's come now. Endeavour ran fuckin lombardy, whence awash with washington, of course, is the edge. Now it's happened, dick for male Joe gibbs came back, but he at least came back with what is wanted him to african lombardy there's one for me.
Lastly, there is the last hurrah coaches
But I'm wondering like this. This roster view just compare tavern us now
see the one thing? It is a quarter back. They clearly don't have one unless they tank this year and try to get a top five pit.
which is possible, and they have all the ways to do it. Now that gonzalez and judah on her out, if they tank and get a top five pick this qb draft loaded. Now you can talk yourself into. Maybe we could be good
next year, if you wanna go unfounded, her thou yeah, just don't he's, never done an embarrassing and do it does he also.
Wanna be around to build up. A rookie could doubt happens quicker now that used to but its say they get. The third
fourth back and they get drake mayor wherever they get annex like. Does he want to be with a rookie record again after mac? I donno interesting thing is like what's the succession plan because
at two sons, succession via its male beggars,
it's copan, that's happened back at them. The they kept them
they prevented him from taken another job because they like another guy, if Bela check leaves were, is
tiring or is fired, which I don't think he's gonna happen d. You think craft gives mayo the just okay, I might add that staff in, I think he says, let's start all anew and let's go get it now, a different mix,
I think you re out a head coach. I think everybody in new england expects that targeted employers. Look. I used to play the way the most
ugly way. I could see this coming out is the season there. You know with loose
those two guys their defense was gonna, be the congo. They just lost the two best defence. So is this a foreign thirteen team of five, and
Well the same as six and eleven team. I dunno, but it's not going to be a playoff team and maybe belichick like let's say the chargers things go. South belichick can go somewhere else for three years. Maybe he does it. I don't think he I don't think back craft would ever fire him
but I think you have to either you have to go from Brady's last season in two thousand and eighteen all the way through now and you you have to I love belichick, I hate talking about this. I could not be more grateful to him for ever.
Did that happened in twenty years with this time, but if your craft,
just look at your like we had the best coach can, you say, is the best coach anymore. If you start with two thousand
with Brady all the sloppiness, all the weird shit that happened.
The stretched out your how that season ended. The camp
cs in these three back,
and seasons they haven't. Looked at the patriots for five years. The habit- and you could say it's talent- you
its drafting, but if you like, I want, I want to pick the grocers myself. Will you haven't done a good job, picking the grocers, and I don't if this is now
if the decade going back to the ran had superbowl game, which was in the beginning of two thousand and nineteen. So that's four and a half seasons ago, where they haven't looked like the patriots and I think craft, the celtics are the team downtown tatum's, the guy in town wc, is like the
the hot up and coming like just kick ass owner in town- and I think craft gives a shit about all that stuff and I just don't think he wants to go five and twelve six and eleven every year with the
Oh, that's getting old and it's something you think as I you follow the same guys in the media. Thank the other gregg, but darts and time currents in the end
a yard of the injured yeah. You got a guy in greece and all those guys, it's like this year, their open legists.
sitting on the team and, like you, ve, never seen that like if there was a poorly coda desire. That's that's an honest media.
Such a blanket psych the receivers before the seas I think Georgi went on. I got broadcasters like it's, it's it as bad as it ever be enough.
were this season like well wait a second I've heard a lot of good things about take one thorin and I've heard a lot of things about the rookie pop douglas and it's like. No, these are not starters and sure enough. Those
as I write, I'm trying to think of landing spots, he said the l, a chargers like to me: belichick needs to go
The right owner, the right ownership group and the right city now run rivera team is planned so, but
Why are you in the light of their own, because new owner has just like here? Take it go in? I could start anew, that's so that
the champagne path rate, new owner and a shitload of money, take out checks under contract. Could craft, ironically, get a first round pick for about
grass crafts tight with michael reuben, Michael reuben site, with hair ass. They used to own the sixers together, there's also geometry, that geometry that can be done here where bedfellows familiar bedfellows, but I'm not firing yet rivera yet that he might still make the make plants are with the aid of the east.
that seems darkened within it and of c sugar. They can make a player
Do you I've done? I think this ballot check. I think there is a real
since this is it and I don't know how to play out, but it was Sunday. I know I know you were about it about. It was like a funeral of river was Sunday the low point like everything.
here's like we're just watching idiotic, its listless they're, not even
play, calling his odd they're getting fake, feel think extra pointed like Alice double
that the low point on national tv with roma to the fact that around like, although,
we call on it. I remember, but like just
a parade all over the fate was at the low point. I think there is banned leg, four or five low points in each one was lower since that time
and abrading, because the calendar Brady was bad and we're gonna break. The bridegroom was so amazing, but you know got going down there.
losing on the latter.
I played miami getting fitzpatrick coming in and blow in their chance. Seventeen yup, you know to to get a bye week and then just getting killed in the playoffs and then a buffalo what they did to the pats.
play us the whole newton experiment, when he couldn't complete a pass,
more than four yards. Anyone, but there there's been a lotta ones, but I think sunday was the worst cause. I
believed I. This defence is good news that we have the best coach of all time.
This is a must win game. Dallas we can run the bog down their throats. Like arizona did like. We should win this game and became
over five minutes demands
worse. Every like for games he's worse and I don't know it's like. I talked to a bunch people around the paths and
The latter connected in their like he does that the assistance anymore,
and they blame the assistance of rebel barbells in his early seventies. You know like it's old, to be an nfl head. Coaches competing at somebody like mcvay, hughes, thirty, eight
who you now burn it
You know obviously is burning it on both ends in just completely obsess, like Bela check, probably as well, but the difference
being able to do it at seventy two and thirty, six, just really hard. You need to delegate what will say. My bet would be no ah next day believe. Do you believe mccaffrey can do this for five months, and not one
no, and I think that running back yeah, I'm not saying.
but I think that the it's it's it's too tore at a pace that becoming the best running back an illegal, be an opera. I am putting myself
back. I had a lot of shit predictions I had. You know the sean payton and the broncos, and I champagne as coach of the year before the season started, but I did say at eighty to one: I think it was that mcafee
can it be the envy peanuts here, because I think all these quarterback forgotten
eliza each other and mccaffrey ages. Finally, healthy it in this system for a full year,
been unbelievable.
Not their only option, but they have been riding him this entire way. I I love what
the play of watching. That often, do I think Higgins,
healthy? Yes, do I think they're gonna write him the way they have. I don't see that, but this might be one of those historic running back seasons.
That was a member. We talked about the pink sound. I read them
as the long shot that jumped out does just because the way he finished with simple cisco problem is ready,
never win the empty pay. Now the
good morning football they make us pick not only suitable whenever we have the pic envy.
Go to the euro like at where a jerk you really make
I do it. I had to wear a jersey- and I I put on that mccaffrey jersey and I'm like running back and ninety nine percent of the
As we all know, if ever there was like, he might be the best player,
offered to prettier he won't winning BP would have to everyone have be off on a sure enough. You in
we're looking at the BP aids is still not in the top paranoid
I think it's like now
alan and it goes to show that it goes jail and herds and then moms eventually get in that was to have a truly
dark season. There will be a thousand in a thousand plus his team, be the ones
and in all those quarterbacks
had the same year amongst each other. Oh, I think he would have to go
what he had for fifty nine and one for two thousand and one thousand. What do you think the guy was thinking like fifteen hundred and one thousand some twenty touchdowns something crazy for it to happen
There are large. I'm curious about sunday has cowboys defences legitimate. They couldn't caution and have had their show
in the cowboys d, even though they lost those who play games have done a very solid job right. Let's see us
I had a nice little fun brock purdy test for the unhappy to brock. My guy gosh he's so good. I'm alright you're going to love this one this one
what they an abusive for social. Just because of the way the anna forwards is. This taylor, swift, were all credit to MIKE lombardy.
I said this on his podcast on Monday and I hadn't thought about it before, and I was really mad that I didn't think about it on Sunday. Is this too big of a distraction for the chiefs? This taylor, swift's travis kelsey relationship because lombardi's case was in the last basically three quarters of that game. The chiefs played
shit and looked like shit and mohammed is under throwing deeds and they just they weren't crisp at all, and you have
they like this happening, which it really feels like almost like late night, these balls from an attention standpoint ray it's like? What did you say? You watch the last answer, just like eyeballs on every single movement of everything. This is the biggest cross over story. That's happened,
an avowed since, like cap her neck, is it too much early in the season? Thirteen china figure itself out. Let me go
my my inside I'll into the back on its word. I did two games on sunday. I did pre game for fox at the commanders eagles game.
in all the hits from there, and then I got on my horse, then I went to jets chiefs and the same day drove up or whatever the route is I get there and it felt and I've done
Superbowl sooner, I felt like a super bowl with the buzz of like the celebrity factor in this state.
and the amount of attention and outside stuff. So I get there. I've gotta, credential libya.
Field I go to the chief side and you ve got poorer
His family, you ve, got all sorts of different. Their chief celebrities,
who live in new york and is all the study on the jet side. There is the
jeremy strong. Is there and J b smooth and re romano unavailing, and then she comes
into the building and aaron rodgers is there by the way elsa she comes into the building. I'm on the field or the buds
on this thing and it's her eyes, blake, lively and if it and it was real
and I ve been to all the super balls and I feel it there and it's like oh every turn and some cool, unlike notable they ve, seen on tv in its own nfl legend here in a village in there. This thing is such a phenomenon. Now the chiefs are still just a football team and they are still just a team with a security staff of just a football team and Travis kelsey, as famous as he is. This is brand new territory. I don't think it's affair
did the play on the field. Yet I do think it's another jerry above thirteen be retained at an inward aims. In the season did she went to dinner the night before
mohammed his wife and I got textron ten different people
a city like she's emilio bottles right now in its
Gladly lay and she's there in chelsea
Isn't there and unworthy? And meanwhile, like kelsey, has
woman, kansas city, the paparazzi are out
that home, when swift was there there already tracking,
whether she's going to minnesota or not. Is she going to be there and where she gonna stay, and where is she going to dine in which celebrities just going to bring out and kelsey tight end it?
he is really good. Is it is one of the greatest ever played a game? This has brought a all
France had eyeballs and so far the nfl been embracing it. It's great to, I think, at the distraction. No, but as an extra element where
These players are now aware that they are totally different stratosphere as to who
watching Ed what
actually the microscope, that's gonna be on them,
hey the idea to find a distraction cause, I would say, every single element of this qualifies distraction has like a negative connotations. Oh that's! A distract
that's a bad thing. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. This isn't anything other than.
inordinate amount of attention, eyeballs energy, constant, like maintenance,
surrounding a team that you know is used to it if its playing in a superbowl but that we too weak. This is now a week to week thing you study
a team that this is happening in the bowser of famous example, this egg. There is
I gotta wear and tear to it. There is aware, interfere with the broad and
that year in two thousand eleven leg
that are under the microscope like this, it does for not you stupid does hurt the team.
Obviously this. If it happens, your daughter,
eighteen years old college freshmen. Was she a swiftly? If you will see in that demographic are now hard core
harmless or is she
bang like two guys older guys talking about what team today
watching the chiefs cassettes. The question like as it brings no is by water. It's ok, I think
it is bringing new audience because we have other data than fiasco. Recite you both extra millionaire feeling of yours. I think my wife is a good example cause she's kind of
egg is barely those who anyone is in football but ashes. I travel costs
and she has like opinions? Yes,
it brought in that element, but I think from just as I think them
shaped in may with the chief says. Just they seem like a team. That's really figure in themselves. Out
I don't who their thirty eight. If you double cover kelsey who's going to
If a visa might be other teams eighteen and they need to touch on its thirty nine and they just take kelsey out who, what receiver disease
ass, the most I've, no ideas of rice is it
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word. That was the question I was having because I was in the building and it very possible jets
bowing- and I do now, the balls were in ninety eight. Ninety seven, it's sunlight is honey of all people Jamie's
If I was talking to him and it was during the game- and we happened to be- I was in the press box when I came down and I was known around the building a little bit and I bump into him and his his theory. Was
Muhammad went out like Jordan. He was in atlantic city the night before that this is it it'll die. Allegedly, god is telling me that he's like nope Muhammad was out last night,
Maybe I am sure that my great take great take. I love it. No figure themselves out. They get an important back this week, but I think the telescope thing assent is that is fascinating, not so much about the outside stuff, but it also
houses go now because it's one thing to do two weeks and they played at home, and it was on fox in nairobi.
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coming up during the uppermost
gonna be in a big. Is this thing I did not think I will say there is a pressing.
is that came through that ryan reynolds is marketing agency is working with jake from state off. They form of his object for safe form of donna, kelsey gonna, like I get it like this
now becoming things that were everyone there, a carcass everyone wants a piece of this thing and we're all gonna be well the recurring in essen, too.
if dude the recurring lesson from two thousand. Twenty three is that she is,
the biggest celebrity we have em.
the biggest celebrities by lifetime. I think she's, the biggest celebrity since Michael Jackson
there's no other person. Why would have the effect like this? She walked in and diana
three, the from the athletic, formerly the expanded, the video
an evil diana residing at that time.
that's what you're gonna do you know you mixture applet cigarette gerasa? He didn't even if their right to delete their step. Daughter data teresa terrific. How do I gotta go? I started to your so they are. She does the video in its great taylor waves in itself,
because on good morning, football were showing this video and we're not identifying that frequent, huge, fragmented right,
whereby they doesn't matter rang, lively and hears
everything Marilyn monroe. This is like what it sounds like Marilyn monroe like in the fifties: china
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Obviously I had this for a couple years after she was more your time. The inalienable rights
ten years are dating shopping, but she was just like a comment, but
Why the clearer it hits terror seems like she had more people to she's got like the generations,
also an incredibly high, providing judges like now
it would be a better lacquer, they'd, be afraid to say it. I can't wait, though she
takes a shaggy jamie or, if you will write so they gonna.
As you know, we had a real fight jamie order.
With a host of our show is gonna get it here. She's like Nora she's, been of sifting long before
oh boy, I've knows every lyric everything her beef was with the people who are upset that taylor
now being talked about on the games in its like just embrace it. It's fine like what is it that in these territorial football fans, but I saw decided them too at a certain point. It in I think once you're watching the guy,
You don't necessarily need the the box every two seconds of another. Where you stand on that, I don't really care like guy. We watch so much for barbary
sunday for so many hours that it's like our right. Here's another wrinkle, I think with
seemed to me. Is that every september,
there is some sort of an avowed side. Distraction story ray in usually its negative. Usually it's like you know. Two thousand
lever twelve. What year that was with the replacement, rafts or
ray race or likely to go down the listeria dossier. I you know the less or concussions become a thing or at sight.
Some rule change that everybody's upset about this
like one of the only positive september distractions. I'd think they ve ever had where it's like. This is just there's like no downside to disturb.
were complaining that they showed her too many times to be decided. Downside yeah, you know
it, then that is water only basic aim, since the superbowl just picture goddamn.
In his office just stroking, a bald cat just been leg: ass, ha ha hey before we go
Do you believe that that that houston is for real.
I dont believe yet, and I know that I got back a lot of guys and I know that turns over dollar due back soon again, tensile back the end.
so back howard him back and they have had to awesome. They kick the crap out of the steelers and I love those new red uniforms. I I just need to see it
Of course this is a really young team,
at division is, is wide open and you know that the jaguars eventually you're, going to figure things out and the titans are always going to be well. Coached, like first year coach first year, offensive coordinator, rookie quarterback, it's a great story in september, and I I'd love it I'm rooting for it. I think I was the one who came on your podcast and got widely
cured firming okay with the trade to go up and get will Anderson and the draft a some urgency to do so then have any reason
I come in so they're like we can't wait another year and we don't care about next year's first round pick, let's get to cornerstone pieces and those guys have been fantastic. I love the story, I can't say I believe in them as like a playoff team. Yet I'm glad you brought that up because
I thought it was bizarre that there are a lot of you. I just thought it was bizarre, just and understand it, and it's like you do in this. These guys have to be fuckin anchors, like you have to be positive, that stroud,
an anchor and Anderson's an anchor
And this is it, this is gonna fucking work and they were right eye
If I could say nobody, but you could say stroud, I think tat s, god
my god they have. You seen the numbers I'm in shows. They remember that supply than a pot.
they're down our own four hundred percent it he he. He has his
top five in passing yards hasn't done an interception yet there's only two players in the history of the sport who have gone through four weeks to do that and that's peyton manning and cam newton
We had a sensational start. His career and like he doesn't throw picks- and I was talking to just
coach and there are like look very- throws his emotion like this is he will eat us is not
the poor, dear marino, but like it so technically sound that he sits in the pocket he so big. He throws. The throwing motion itself is beautiful, that there is no technique used to work on.
not like this is a raw project and we got to work and off, like he's already got that which is at the very most minimum. These, like that's the thing you always worry about. These kids coming at ecology have to work on
technique out of college and he's already there so that,
right and then, like I said they ve been so it relevant last
yours they had empty buildings. They fans don't even exists like shit, twenty
we need three or not because the next year they dont might not have twelve months away,
They went in. They did this trade, and I know it's crazy to trade. A first round thick fur
defensive end, but you know what they did it in both guys are awesome, kids and maybe been. Are well, he passes the test me like that.
coming at a commercial you'll, see him on
side by my choice. In the guise of errors observed like quarterback. It's really, I'm really impressed
I had no idea. I a love richardson, they give you
Oh me bond fine,
I have one of those two for the next ten years. I act. I don't have an answer yet cause like richardson. He ate a third down. Throw in that games out
Last week, the warrant like ours, certain eleven and it was like
now. Here's where was that was a fun comeback, but here's where it ends, and then he like rolled left, oh yeah, he did bought himself two seconds found a guy for thirteen yards to keep the drive
a mad mad jones. Can't do that. Now we can
Erin Donald, had him around the neck. Taking him down,
on and on one leg. He threw it forty yards in the air and hit alec pierce
What might be the prettiest pass, that we see no reason and that's just that kid is raw, so
he had the one where he he moved to the left and here he is
if aaron Donald, and then he flipped it over to the running back for the touchdown and it's like it was one handed. He got rushed on the play. He is so fun to watch. It's it's a treat to watch. The colts right now
forgot to ask you about matvey, we gotta go, but just give me the quick,
I didn't want to hurt them for worst record in the leg
say I shouldn't. I don't know. I don't know. Mcveigh is capable of tanking he'd day. I think he's been the best code should the first.
games at anybody because I live
economic alliance. Texans I mean those are the two teams that are going to do this without cup. To do this, when you, your office of line, is completely shambles
I can't nay more than eight rams, and just every week there leg the tv
just maximized, whatever potential that team has week to week, it's fucking crazy, like they couldn't even play. Forty minutes against the colts, like they
to say they held on at the end that game as a miracle. You know that they bade him when the coin
as the game was over and a skirt
a call tales, and that was all right. I'll tell ya. I talked about it again.
I thought it would be one of those in a typical year, maybe last year, maybe the years for a be like. Can you imagine we we almost gave that away. He was ecstatic like they're having so much fun right now, and this is the first time since his first year as a coach when they came out of nowhere that he's actually
you got no expectations and having fun. But, like you look at this
I'm right now, it's all fit six. Seven brown picks it's all day. Three guys analysed
by ship on their shoulder, I got serpent approved gus, wrote the names
we'll be durant's and ye see add some of these in a cool with a hundred. So
the seventh player in the draft- but they liked him. They took him and a little corner get on the poor. So everyone was like your cooper.
down I'll have no chance at all events, but cooper coupled with them was the summer. He was
working on his hamstring
working on himself gang rape
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Hidden offers stafford early on, but they loved nicaragua. They were like this is our dude there's a thing called the breakfast club in, for
Here'S- was Andrew Whitworth, sean mcveigh, cooper cup and matthew stafford. They would get into the building at like
I have thirty am when everyone else was supposed to get in around eight and they would just watch film and they would be s and it became like a bit of a
alleging that this was the morning the breakfast coming together. New coup
fifth round rookie one week into within a foul career docks on the door to stafford like in the quarterback german is like. Is it cool? If I
when you guys and I can join you and I could do no. I guess you're you're welcome to come so he's our.
You done it. Never ones like all. Members are gonna. Go down
now. The deeds fucking open all the time for europe.
Here's the wide open, here's your eyes! So cup is gonna, be the capital.
the coup and will be the robber woods role? This is back when they were lighted up and untrue to outweigh the brenner cooks role and their excite about that
excited that he also quietly completely revamp the cooking staff. It's not a topic that like gonna beat, but
there was a lot on his shoulders. Last year they got a new offensive coordinator and Michael floor mats little brother, who is doing a great job. The new office of line coach, new running backs coach, new coaches all over the place, and they play too well different rookies there having fun. So I don't
Gonna win many more games, but should this reminds me-
twenty twenty season when they come,
super bowl. They had a better than twenty twenty one. No one expect them to be
they were and they a bunch of guys, weatherby darius Williams, a defensive back or greg
and they all these still like lesser known players-
step up when the need em they're doing that, right away from the go and credit to that coaching staff. The front office for this not be
tank ear and then look at it. That way than ever. Did you look at the end of sea pencil and fill in san francisco? Probably pencil in Dallas?
I'm I'm admitting defeat at detroit added the tapes good. I would have thought of that division-
but from the annex ii south, that's five, then probably see
atul seattle, I mean, although the rams thumped them in big one, but I'm going to say probably I'm not saying. Definitely that would be the six find that said you could. You can tell me sevens teams for the seven, so it's like Tampa get. It
Could the rams get it washing washed and sneak in there? Could arizona get super frisky like I don't fuck him?
No, but that could be a nine and eight team that we can't believe they made the playoffs and one of the rams by been there or you. Gotta go do some plugs
do you believe that good money for powers on fire? Yes, we are ratings- are up we're doing god, where survive and over here and I found out
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bill. I I know you love talking about the the show that you are working with that wise guys, I gotta say you're turning it like it is.
its accession that everyone's. Why you're really highlights that? The watch part
are going out of it. You must give my boss a box in a book or do a nice job over here. Man just
I am expecting Andy greenwell to be doing recast of the wise guy. Show you and sal talk about it too much on Sunday night.
Just give me a little love affair were friendly watching yeah. I have three.
these on sunday morning in europe, one in three! Ok with you guys! I love it and then my part gases is fine. It's different! I take pride in it
I put my own gas separate. I listen to you. Honor smart, listen, you're, like it's
Players, I gotta do it myself, and that was what the cases at this podcast and it's called the season with Peter schrager and theirs.
There is no ego, there's no ambition. It's it's! It's more. Just me talking to
coaches and gems in its about their lives, their stories, but also within making quite a bit and do so.
About one also- and I appreciate you have me on it. I miss your body good senior, shreds.
pleasure as always the men
million dollar pigs, weak fire
have we forded not go well over five them. I scared now on that
have I been here before. Yes, I have we're fine, we're, ok, hats.
By glass weak spent.
At a time as I flew back east this week, I was able to adjust the unpaid
It's just studying where statistics I feel great.
don't abandon me, don't abandon hope all lines?
They have banned all I'm saying
staying away from this week, bills. Jaguars,
As you know, I do not bear on the london games. I just don't. I dont like waking
and somebody's up. Seventy nothing and I don't know what happened and I'm just out, I'm blind out to another country.
It's weird you can never gag, can engage in this
the schedules about titans courts.
We want to take titans minus two and a half, but I'm just a little scared of the colts. I watched that whole game last week cause I had them and they fought back and richardson.
There's me and I just wanna go get some pittsburgh, who really do
threw me in the oven and cooked me at three hundred and fifty degrees the season they have just murdered me and they're in a great spot
against baltimore plus four and a half at home. It's a spot that I would jump on in my time with him one hundred times out of one hundred, but this is the one hundred and first time I can't bet
mac, canada, uninjured, Kenny picket. I just can't. I can't I'm sorry pits
I have enough money: onion futures anyway, hope will come through ban that betting on you, dolphins giants.
That leads to higher, don't trust the dolphins defence.
eagles rams is like four and a half
it's in the vague zone. I love the EU.
but I'm staying away. I just I don't the rams. There's a bible them like trigger, talked about I'm staying away chiefs bags. That line is super suspicious,
keeps dropping a dropped to a plus three and a half minnesota. There's backdoor tv potential.
no, it's gonna achieves that are now distracted there. I I really
the banks but ass. I do want to bet on her cousin skins, pat mom, some that doing that stay away and
It's been at least houston, plus one and a half at atlanta
I wanted a better lana so badly and there are like forty five horrible desmond- renders debts
that are just like each one on its own are alarming and then you out on the map- and you just can't do it he's in- looks too easy
anyway, here's what we're doing for weak five. We forbids the first one, I'm going against the bangles again
There are forty nine points for the season. They have fifty eight first dance
quarterback playing on one leg diagnosed,
who plays there's videos on
two of above jobbers throughout this year, where he looks like a high school quarterback, as he has no zip and bob was can't move their defences. Gimme, a bunch of kids,
Then rushing arts per game. The benghazi fail
by three in arizona
and the reason is because people don't
in arizona. Yet I trust there
so not only from the sunset I've watched them these games, I watched him, beat Dallas. I watched him. Hang the san francisco.
Arizona like not bad.
they should be favoured in this game and yet they're getting three. My role with this
visit the line as like three to four points. Different though, when I had my head, I have to take the tape, so I'm taken arizona plus
and I think city season actually think this is the year from policies for the mob. Much like the rams lasher. Sometimes it happens.
And up. Oh, my god, I can't believe they went six eleven it's gonna happen. Isn't that second game
forty niners minus three and a half at home against dallas.
I am name in this, the chest air again, so the three and a half years first suggest era
because if it's three you're, like I love forty niners for diners by three done because in the background are like well, if they win by three, I pushed three and a half that half point. It can say GAO and you can overthink it
this happened and weak one falcons, minister enough over the panthers, also weak, cowboys mine
Going out for the giants we too chiefs manner,
we have over the jagged weak three brownsville?
it's stirring up over the titans each time. You're like oh man. I wish that line was three. I dunno that extra point just to just trust your gut. Is you got that one
teams gonna beat the other. Don't worry about. The half point just
at nine out of ten times you gonna hit it. I hope this is the tenth time, but
this forty nine esteem as long as mccaffrey debo kiddo as long as all those guys are healthy? And then
there is the issue of them is always comminges. Can they asked
they can. We avoid having the red flags next to their fancy icons. They seem super healthy and
Our esteemed common I've been nea horrendous pats. I don't know, I think this
It should be at least for some grabbing at forty in irish minister enough. So I have two parties for my last few bets.
Both of them involved. The lions bunny line, which is minus four. Ninety unfeigned organs carolina- I they carolina, is one of the two worst teams in the wig.
I think the lions are good I'll admit the feed on them. Good about violence, often of weapons,
just the legitimately gets him and I trust them.
Carolina. That means we
take that money line and and have some fun with it, and that's what I'm gonna do we are going to put them. This is where it gets one reference
because betty transact Wilson, I've never tried cocaine or heroin, but this is what have you
like when you bet on Zack well said you just your happen on the fucking horse.
We're gonna do jets, adjusted line minus two and a half over the broncos, the branches,
favoured by two over the jets, the bronx
have the worst, the defence that an shots has ever recorded.
for by outsiders dating back like nineteen. Eighty exact wilson can't do well against this defence
they should just shoot him. The mars- and I
I got your reacting cassini look! Ok against chiefs, I sleep, but this timber defence.
Everybody looked fantastic, this a nice path for the jets. You know they figured out their offensive.
And step forward breeze harshly,
care will wilson and december.
offences, miracle workers they can make everybody the even maybe even the pats they could make the pats offence a good on the jet
also played buffalo dallas, new guns, defence and kansas city in the first four weeks. So
jets, minus two and a half in the lads money line as parlay plus one eighty one, I've found all were grab in that
and last but not least, this is also going to be my featured boost on fanduel, which has a fifty percent profit boost. If you hit It- and you have to put three legs in there, so
three legs open their lines. Moneyline that I mentioned we're doing. Pat saints
instead over under minus forty, seven and a half. So forty
Some points are lower. We win. What are they
that their car or the bad, shoulder and mac jones of the bad everything arguments were forty points in a football game.
here's the answer there? Not it's not gonna happen.
Forty seven have suggested under in the saints money line
The saints moneylender gazetted
page it season is over guns,
this out for the year, thereby star working
cornerback? Who is?
might have been the best. Looking all leg he's gone. They had to trade for jesse jackson who
just two weeks ago, admitted I'm not healthy, so that's artists,
in quarterback in magic.
Turns out too for three months. So the
as two guys on the defence that was good
There was great, thereby dawn in the offence, is the worst offence. It makes me wonder,
Jim I fingernails my balls and so bad
The reason the ringer Natasha the sweet compared to watching someday.
Play chess with all ponds and other that was perfect. That's exactly with the patriots offences like wanna play some chess,
Sure I'd love to I'm. Only gonna use ponds. That's great!
they're gonna win! That's the patriots offence. You take it
saints money line- you take the under forty seven aff adjusted and the lines bunny line in that gets us plus one,
eighty four parlay unfollow, so we are putting two hundred kay em both of those parlez. We are.
putting three hundred and forty nine his monastery nap or putting three hundred on the cardinals plus three. Those are the million dollar picks
for we fat, I that's it for the back ass thanks to peter schwaiger text, cop creighton steeps ready for producing
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