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Probably I resell it ever nuggets over under fifty two and a half, they won the NBA title last year. They are first by fifty two when the title they were fifty three games last year in the overlanders right right there. I'll start here is this the most realistic many dynasty we ve had since the two thousand and seventeen warriors ranch. could totally see a team winning like three and four years. Maybe two thousand fifteen, where somewhere in that warriors range,

been on this for awhile now, just because I think when you saw him what live twice in that laker series, did you go to those games? I went to a bunch of them. you just came back. You were like glowing about him. It was like they haven't even won the whole thing yet yeah like. I think this is the best team and look that answer. I don't have for you, but if you look at how they finished last year, they were four sixteen nineteen. They went seven and ten the rest of the way they work. I was running, but in the west I think there's just can be. It's likely theirs little bit more of a challenge to them. Maybe they won't care about seating like no one does, but I think this is one of those repeats where I actually liked the over me to house. What do you think? They only have to win the same number of games that they one last year to get the over. So it doesn't feel like a big is that you you're coming in that hot. Well, how about this? I thought there might be a little bit of foreplay to this regard like right on denver,

well and write to the normally, we would have started with the pacific right cause, that's the most instant division we do them apart to, but I do feel like them, It's gotten overlooked where they lost bruce brown, cool they're, going to replace him of christian brands can get most of the minutes. They like a bunch. These rookies are probably getting hit on one of 'em they're, going to have trades that they can in December january february. They feel like they're missing something we haven't even got Jamal Murray's not going to be coming back from any rate he's coming back from looking what one of the best guards in the west. If, if you go those first weeks. I remember watching those games being like. Oh man, yeah. You could see Just wasn't there yet the rest, so all you have to have them is be challenged which we expect with the depth of the west and Murray just be the same guy all the way through, and I look I like bruce brown too, but this is yoke ich is he? He's currie in that when you put somebody with him that guy ceiling is that much higher tired, all you have to do is look at aaron, gordon, so I'm I feel like enough.

the gm of the nuggets. There's bunch players, you might not like we're be like when I like him now HU, we have you here you check out like can be thrown reggie jackson for two months. If he's getting left and doesn't will flow. Bright hundred percent disappear. Waiters elbow yet a lot of they had their lot of straw. boys as they had recovered from wherever he recovered. My leg is: ricky Davis still plan the two. And thing with with joker marie. I should think that the championship belt as early as debatable, because they, when the title, but I think what those two guys do together, is still the most special thing in the league a unanimous and day. My challenge that already had excited were taken us on a monday there's preceding gay. Mr day, Janius was like our gas mc after I have never seen. so the basque while court before I've never played with everybody, has doubled. Seen before you just like shots, galore being fired at people who went inside of it, but not really

Gonna can get said about a precincts. I mean yeah. This isn't gonna barrel is head down into three defenders. Now I've felt like that's like that. Still can happen, yoke edge, marianna, dame booker, katy and then there's probably like who jav forth in the two men championship rankings would whittier butler and ban which he had taken him and brown would you have me Anthony Davis and asked him reeves an error, as I do that I did. I hear you're gonna do that currie and whoever who would you have? Fourth I had or in bam. Actually, I headed tatum and brown yeah. Yeah, I don't rhinos in four years It means better than jailing yeah I would. I would rather have banned the jail in, but it just funny like it almost as if you're not allowed to say you rather have taken, then jimmy butler, even though I think we still think tatum just a little bit better than butler yeah. I think he's a better vp candidate, there's a higher ceiling for him at this point by others can be

mid thirties present it'd be this year. The staff part feels dismissive, not include a minute but like whenever I hear teams or anyone talking about like the top two right yeah, because it's really been about like who are the top two who are the top two. Where now we have like a couple options with phoenix or Milwaukee with the third guy we're like. Oh, we could be back on this, but whenever You do the top two. I feel like we prioritize who the second guy is way more than who the first guy is this banana. So with staff you like, are we really going to leave him out of the four? No matter who that is, I didn't even know who the second guy is you. I guess you would say clay, but could I also say wiggans if he gets his shit together. The share in you could ask the same dream on I have been betray tremain support in the league last year, yeah, but it just started hurt to see him as a two yeah. It said. Well, that's his lower than theirs, like some fox, a bonus mobile mitchell, there's a quite p e g upside peace, but we haven't really isn't it out for you waited. It is my head. Yes, I you know, I still do

which marina I thought were murdered in the playoffs last year, cannot be swept under the rug. I believe that's who he is. I don't think he got hot. I think that's who he is as a player, and I think this teams gonna have a little edge to it this year because they won the title and then it ok, who's gonna win is, is it could be the lakers begone state is, can we walk is boston and they're just not mentioned? might not care, but I think they care a tiny bit. I think might belong. Cares I biggie May I add that I anticipate this when they play the lakers. Otherwise, you, though, the temperament of the joker is such like. The team goes how how his he just leave season emotional yeah but I mean is anybody, think maybe he's doing a little bit too much how little he cares about you. He cares were other years more

that sucks whatever he's presented, I think there's a level of caring a little higher than maybe what he presents. Now, I'm not saying like it's a it's, a complete act like some of the back and forth of them and lakers hilarious like I forget who had it or whatever it was like ooh. The lakers had conversations this off season about denver yeah like woah. They said denver know this asshole. You know it's just. It's also knew because denver was used. So you were right for kind of writing them off yeah. You know you're like how. How good is this team- and I know you know we talk about the defense in the in the road stuff. It was funny like I looked through the the top six seeds last year in the west, only two teams had a winning record on the road, via the top six in the east had a winning record on the road, which is usually an indicator. So if you're asking me if it's a dynasty, it's too soon for me, but if you're asking me if this was just

is one of like the second phase of domination yeah. You know I know or spend a lot of time on them, but they deserve it. That's why, when I looked at fifty two I was like god. I love that I love that number cause. It had been fifty four, fifty five and a half you're like I dunno. If I can go I would add, don't you think, has he's a guaranteed fifty, if he's gonna play like seventy two ganz yoke edge. That's it very got its ideas. American corridor. Yes, sire pencil for fifty plus, I think the christian brown replacing all the stuff bruce brown did last year is probably the variable but ass. I think he can do it. I'm a believer. What do you think that is, I know you were into that draft, but kfc is all excited about the rookies and their young player potential. They have yeah, I feel like they just were like we're going to roll player this year, everyone is a better role player with yoke ich yeah your life is just gonna be easier, so. We were still sitting here. They want a title, and were wondering like through their won through four, is because Michael poor junior still probably disappointing yeah, but not as a fourth best guide. Hell I mean he's really.

Expensive and we know it's a medical rest, but the he hasn't Well, he delivered the way you think he could not because of like pre drafts. If there are flashes with him, where I think he's one of the ten best shot makers in the mba, like I'm sure, the stuff he can do getting a shot off and making it off the dribble with his size and everything you're like when he gets it rolling now a lot of it with him as ever, just kind of putting it all together. It was a slow start where there were very few glimpses. I think Malone was you know there were years ago where they were hurt in the perimeter and he still wouldn't play the game. So it's been a slow going for him, but they're still like some hope that wait a minute. What if he, what, if he's just putting it together on a night to night basis, doing more the stuff that is supposed to be doing. At the top of the shotmaking where their profile is even higher. I wonder we had the big three stuff for awhile and then we moved into a big two thing kind of last spring. I wonder if big four is going to become the new thing.

I hold out. I have a nice strong, big, four and then plus like the poison gas peace, but the denver big for it. And thus far since, like ninety two, he think not since what was the one without lab, then ivy, yeah that I but yeah that the forman stuff and that's where, like the milwaukee case, falls apart a little bit because I don't you know there for his middleton will talk about them later, but I just don't know what I'm getting from middleton at this point in his career, like he was already sitting out games and practices and stuff. So I like denver four and I think they'll be able to figure out the pieces around that that's an easy over for me over for you ass over over ok, well That was easy targets: tough, what's gonna minnesota forty four,

have. They are one of seventeen west timor with the forty four and a half over under their plus five, fifty four, the division, which is basically a yoke. It will get her pet minus one, forty four for the plants plus one or two for no play off the finnish forty two and forty last year- and I guess the overcomes down in this question house- can edwards become second theme on big. I just do not using them ass. The only question for them to be that's the big question for me: ok, we're talking he's swimming in the ocean with curry, FDA, booker, Murray, lizard mitchell, and then you get into that fox. Brunson group, but do you think he can be at all and be a a guy this year? I do. I do as well, I believe it because of what we just saw from him on the world stage and what we've learned over the years about guys who get into that situation and opportunity

thrive and what it does in terms of boosting their overall their own confidence. There primacy practice habit like everything everything that you learn are the coach about how much they loved him. That's it s. Would he have reseller Yea possible, look, I love them and I think everything's possible for him. I mean he's one of the few guys like that early on once you started seeing him play me like you know: she's, shooting you a text or whoever be like. Are you watching this guy, and then it felt like his personality was like kind of personality bet on and then everybody loved him I was. I was here and finished the other day. Talk about him and he's like that. You know it's fun, I used to always dismiss it with you. Whenever you talk about plan for team usa like why do you think this is that when you over my team, say terry yeah, because I think I remember Brandon anger. He was like What's the dual citizenship story in france like, what's what do? I need to do? Flags of paperwork, so I I started

look. It took a long time for me, but I started by into it a little bit like it had just being around the other guys in the coaches and royal chair right. The practice at air, so I'm in now but I don't know how in I am on the rest, the guys I I I just it's a tough number, no, it's three more wins and last year there is no reason why shouldn't take it to another level, the able to do that but How many gains is towns gonna miss games is going to be clear in the now want to come back. You know how many, why shots. I'm just serious like I of you know we ve been, we'll get one guy away from him. We need to get the second got. Phase to the timber. Was optimum offer operation here. Would you think tat S

I I was. He was under the microscope this summer because it didn't seem like anybody wanted a trade from including portland, including the next the trade market for him with the contract that he has was not robust. It's literally a glass, half full glass, half empty approach to him. Do you say that? Ah, he will regard this upcoming season as the opportunity to remind everybody of who yes, his ability to play with go bear. There was some through exchange rate, two thousand one range yeah right show everybody asked about it, and I still don't forget about here can write. Thirdly, were executed for guys with different cells, really ourselves oppressed with dry ice. I thought it was pointed out that then you did.

he always real I'd ask you have. I was trying to do it with regard to draft a clause in there was good to continue. Edwards today. Isn't the fulcrum players, cat cats? The difference for this team can order. Their fortunes depend on how many games as he play and does this combination with go barrel. I think I bear is ready to be the role guy. That makes the most sense. So this is really up to Chris finch and quiet, anthony towns and not going to say, which way are waiting on the total. Until you get me permission, but I really like this minnesota tee. I think there are other, like eight or nine good guys on this to towns. Only played twenty nine games last year, a year before he played seventy four and average twenty five and ten basically and shot fifty three forty one eighty two percentages. So if you just like crunching numbers in a computer, your leg is this one of the twelve best guys in a league without ever watching basque bergen, you watch him in its feels different, but there's something I think,

with every single team and everything like, and I I don't be this negative like. What's your shit had vibe factor on any team when we get to memphis a little bit later on a lot of guys? I really like, but last couple of years, like you guys, say and do stuff just like like Deandre Ayton, when he got introduced to portland and he's like hey, I'm here to dominate that's my name, we're like who are you working with, Who later you know what lay that sounds really good. But are you trying to say and satan, dominated not for him. I didn't is, I watched them play in. So it's like windows, everybody else's fault, no town France has some of that stuff. What does these interviews and will you should give areas at the letter caprio just I rep? said too many times, but when Ben simmons did that sit down with J j hour, our long thing I go, I don't need to know anything more about him

yo, I'm good, and so I have certain players now, where the jaded pink it at this point it and get him good jada yeah they're, just interviews where you go. Oh I'm happy marriage, I get it yeah, you need, you need tupac, and so I really like a lot of the guys on this team, like Kyle anderson like MIKE, and the mcdonald's punched a wall rarity in the last year. Still I can still like him really leg NOS read, kind of enjoy shake milton and I just think they have too much talent and I listen. This was the most over it and five game loss in recent history, but they did impress me against denver and that perhaps how will we be it? I don't know why I can't get it out of my head. You ever feel like dinner was really threatened by them. I just started gave him a good game so that they are competitive and

you know what I've been forbidden for minnesota, then for denver right in that than the mere your casting of this year. I think They had to big eyes, rover offices, where the leagues head where the leaves got a little bit bigger like to have some size and some you know that improve in that they can play, go barren, towns together and be a team that wins sixty percent of it's games. But for me it's an over because of edwards, and I think he has a chance to I. I just think I've seen this before falling asleep enough times and I've seen the ark and he said all the checkpoints of the arc. We see just every single stretch of it and I just think he's going to have a huge year and if he has eugene. That's a forty five when team keziah defensive rebounding there in other have my commonly which they have really had before assume

He has one year left so for me, it's an overhaul. Sorry are you under or over I'm over? I'm glad, I'm I'm! You know I'm not ready to do lock, but as we go through this and start thinking about locks that there are, my lists in your underwear salon, yeah. I am, and I don't I don't like it, because it's just not a reflection on edwards, it's a reflection on, and I think, even if edwards gets it rolling, it's going to borrow it's going to bother towns. Rag, I think that's the problem is that it clearly should be edwards team all the times and they don't think towns is going to be may I go and how do I make anthony edwards better? I don't have that I baked. How could I be his wing men? this is another guy, doesn't think he's done anything wrong with his atropine again, while so that leads me to my final question before him about from minnesota If I'd give you an over under of ten more months for towns and go bare together this experiment, ten more months that would take us into like trade stuff next July, one nine months, let's say nine months over nine months, those guys will still be teammates.

go over under that, I probably still say over it. I think it's the reluctance to trade in the league I don't want your errors, I would also say over because I think it's gonna work this year either. I would go over as well I think I can be rock aids can be weird, develop their women high forties than what are you doing? What everyone you yeah, I don't, I think, all the rocky and weird was last year. I think they got that. I mean this is why its rise point is like towns has to grow up. If he's a grown up, then there there ceiling, as is a high seal it. So you have them placer no place. I haven't playoffs, but I just have a monster that number. You can open this plus one or two their plan as plus one forty, so I don't know being one of the top sex. I know it gets weird when you go through the worst discharging running out apply off spots, but I mean just cause I haven't the under. I don't think they're like dramatically.

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and I am over on them. I am over to the point that the big fan do booze this year, which we hit last year, and I they're gonna, I think, put it up on the set on wednesday, maybe thursday, but it's going to be celtics. Fifty plus wins lakers forty five plus wins n oklahoma city, forty plus wins they're going to use that to like plus two fifty I have Oklahoma city's either. The fourth or the fifth best team in the west- and I accept all counter arguments they're too young they're your way they're not going to go for yet. I just think. There's too much talent I did. The chat thing is being slept on is how important that is going to be for what they were last year and what they need this year. I think this team is competitive as fuck built for the regular. season just to be good week after week after week, I'm not saying they're gonna make the second round or even make the conference finals. I just think as a regular season team. This is a team. That's going to be in the mid forties.

If even a little bit higher, they have a. They have a top guy that guy shave his first time on ebay last year. Giddy continues to give better Jalen Williams, the last two months of the season, I dunno how many times we texted about her marcelo but really looks like he been avid chance to be somewhat special, and then you talked about the chat piece of it and I just think can be a bitch to play. I really like him. There deep are your thoughts were salon, okay, see where you stand, I feel, like everybody likes him, so much that I want to zag a little bit. You know I feel like Shea is just be given a first class ticket to superstardom when normally it's the thirty one again, an impressive course it did, but that eleven free throws a game. Now I am out of centre. I'm not goin to admit that. I I always love that he just basically can go to right and left the room and then, like you, so hurt you jerk. You just works every single time, so it's not as gross is some of the other guys with away they they get other free throws. I guess,

just like. Are we sure he is like unimpeachable, topped ten in the mb already, I feel like it because I watched him over and over again last season, go toe to toe with the best players in the league, and it felt like a fifty fifty type of crunch time with him against the, best personally she'd rather have shea guilders, alexander than devin booker. I I don't think I would actually, but I think for if you're talking regular season, I think Shea's credentials have been more impressive. We watched him last year, basically dragged that team to the playoffs, and it was like the youngest team in the league, then at center and this the one forty and forty two I have no idea how they did it.

Is more impressive than anything booker did before our response at their. You write a note of it and how much further use. I think I need the ringer one hundred rankings and you you were text may about booker versus state in which an old product at some point, I think I undervalued book her baby and maybe by two three spots, cause I'm with you as a became guy and as in there I think, there's gonna be a real burned. His saddle the share with this. them? But I was maybe I'm overrating what has created last year, but I was just so not it's gonna believe how good he was last year. What do you think house? Where do you stand the it's a math problem? Because of the combination of how much improved, I think the west is we're not going to have the state in the lakers. You know hovering around the play in line this upcoming season and they got better by sixteen wins last year. So it's it's like that climb! It's a it's a it's a toll, climbed to go from cigna sixteen win improvement.

Another five win improvement I will hold on in that climb cause. I did this on my pi, but I just wanna read the stats again, really quick. My theory on them was that, if a team, if a young team of the said, sir special enough. They will jump like they're gonna head into the fifties sooner than you because we sought happen without casein oh nine. They won twenty three games. They went to fifty in two thousand and ten. They went to fifty five in two thousand and eleven and they're in the finals in two thousand and twelve with that team areas like well westbrook's, not a point guard. That's an okay! These guys but I don't see it and then suddenly it was there were doing it gone. It was in a similar spot, two thousand twelve, the one twenty three two thousand and thirteen jumped to forty seven and say well that was weird a weird season. What does that mean to that? fourteen one. Fifty one into does fifteen the one sixty seven in any, the ninety nine maps. There were nine, in thirty one unlock a year, forty one to two thousand and fifty three,

jump to no one and then fifty seven oh two allows with new turkey nash. So the question for me is: are the ok see assets special enough to potentially be in that conversation In the end, honesty that comes down a we found tat, if you feel it check, can be an impact for guide this year. They have four guys that I think for you're, twenty three guys she's a little older, but giddy chat. jane lambs and as gm. I think that's a pretty special nucleus were so you see my ear tiny bit lower, I know, but I'm I'm gonna go over and, like I wow, I just you prepared me as I don't even know, what that's called that was a freeze, agora. There was like an undue egg. I would I was going to go under, but I knew that the the only reason I was really doing it was because it was like wait a minute. Every time he watched them last year. They were better prepared than most teams. They have a bunch of differ is they an attack you they didn't have really any frontline guy in here they were fighting for the back into the past.

In mobile, unbelievable, never really well, code, sry and even though chat isn't like the traditional five minutes can be running around all the time. He just adds another level of resistance that you are going to have with a what's a really a power forward and jalen willing. right and then the other Jane Williams, everybody loves and it looks like you know. The sky could be somebody who maybe makes a couple all start. Yeah themes which you know is Is you add that to the giddy part, I guess, unlike his greatest chaise numbers, were in the way he talks about him. It's like. Do they really have enough of a second guy to be like a forty five forty on Wednesday, the giant size. Really I can guy it's really their argument, that's exactly it! I'm under under, I think they're. Forty four went to ask: fucking trader, but they also like, I think they ve burned me three years in a row or I've gone like that teams in a sack and then your urging him to go on out there super prepared they play really hard, like they're, not gonna, fuck,

because Daniel I'm saving energy is years ago. In there I am going wins, but with the I think we got like going in that year that roster I'm like oh they're, going to go under they're, going to try to get the pick and in last year's number was a lot lower than the forty. I think, to be a hard in the play when their home to the gate. They think they were. Last year there bringing have trade trade ban case on wallace the or jalen Williams. Stuart might be coming off the bench, but they're going to have these teams. They can throw out, as like a second unit like with real defense, with real energy, with some shooting. I really like this team, and as yet you are talking about your instinct, was to zag, because so many people like them this is how I got into trouble. Then I found this year with the lions and with the jaguar sums I am, and everyone likes the lion site.

I'm in a zag new green bay, and you know why wines gamester like holy shit. How did I know you re right cause? I don't, I don't think, there's a higher like neutral approval rating of any mba team that ok see right yeah of all the stuff you reading go through it like men, everybody just like some. So there that's why, but like whether other giddies idea wines, we didn't talk about other packs of just do quickly, but they have to type for protected from Houston in twenty four twenty six. They have clippers unprotected twenty, four, twenty six, what a disaster they have another saga back and think in that you gave up those pill. My god gave a swap with the clips and twenty five. They have a fully top six and twenty six like they made. haven't beat at that point. The top fourteen from miami to top five from bert and they have other mpeg, so yeah somebody would say too. I actually

toronto can be better than most, but let's say, siakam becomes available. Let's say they just decide. We need one more big guy kelsey throughout Robert Williams. Last week it was like Robert William sounds great for this team. Just add him for twenty minutes again, I think it'd be really easy for them to add one more guy you'll, probably be a big guy, but I like where they are, and the men on this team to me. The question would be one at us: copyright or chilling almost one year anniversary. Why not us? time for a shilling reference, somebody laguna guys red hot right now I had so how so zebra over I'm sorry house under reseller simmonds over doesn't get in here with the utah jazz over

Thirty five and a half? They went thirty, seven and forty five last year to make the play of surplus for twenty two make the playing in their plus two. Fifty is this the single best ass, a team for you other than ok, see from players picks just things standpoint, reseller just things I like oklahoma city players, better, I haven't it's the one I think utah may be in the running for two, they own six of their next seven first, they have three many firsts and a swap. They have a lakers first and twenty seven they have three to Cleveland first equivalent, swap so that all these different things they can do aerosol. like they now the draft? I hate, overactive precision I hate it. I china to watch too much of it, but this chaotic george, like real, It seems like he might actually be special right away like I, I dunno how they're going to keep them off the court to be watching priscilla,

yeah I mean he was a he like. There's certain games in college. If you watched the kansas game, you're like how did this guy not go to the? Five re has some of that intimate than theirs to watch some of the other stuff he does you're like okay. This is why he hung around for a little while, but you know, least rather see a guy. I think he's playing at fog where he was incredible and you're like you're playing there net that environment, that young ass, no issues whatsoever. But you know like any these kind of score. First guys put a big numbers in high school in your like. Are you just defaulting all this shit that work at my school at them like one of my other fish, Are taylor hendricks yeah, even though I know I know I can see the bad side of this yeah where it's a. I actually just wasn't that good or into it, but he was so smart he's that big and he could actually shoot, but the george

if, if they decide they have to play him a lot at point guard the nba this early, that's what has meaning under and they get after that great start. Last year. I think that's the other part house. So this is the problem with them, because you have to make a choice about whether you think that they want to be competitive or not. Cause will hearty. Is another stud coats like we're all we're talking about these, these teams, with these incredible coaches well and to that problem they are there twenty four first to ok, seen as top ten protected, sir there. In that you know what say there are twenty five and twenty six with thirty game. Thirty one games to go, and it's like What are you gonna? Do you wanna like make a run and we still fall short of the plan, and then we give the eleventh pick to Kc. Is that worth it yeah? I looked, they were ten and three yeah. That's the

the point yeah and remember, is vital. We all had him unduly daily how we can live forecasted, what they were doing last year. We we thought they had a specific intention and it wasn't that we were dead wrong and what also gives me pause is there are credible reports that they went hard. after dame a team going after dame at the age of where he is in his career, and you know: that's not a team that that is looking to reduce their competitive You know level so I dont know they when marking and play last year, there were five hundred team, they one forty nine percent of the games and working and play yes, there's the to pay This is one of the hardest overs because I to them being sours in January february, like olympic is a perfect january first,

guy makes like twelve million a year, could totally sea like the south ex miami there's bunch of teams. You could just see a man. Collins is football, and I I bet I Looking at their team and I, but how do you trade for collins and then go under right, although I just think John Collins is kind of this mystery guy do you know he's only twenty six, oh yeah, now he's like this guy, it's unbelief tatum thinks kayla. Tucker is twenty two that was the other one. I was like wait. What I feel like he's been the league for ten years: here's the as for them going over house? We want, danny do this before with the south eggs in the mid two thousand tensors, like rebel arrogance, collect the lad assets and then I'll, No zag, like you did that I say thomas trade. What yours at two thousand fourteen and yeah. They are supposed to be rebuilding and they were just all actually were laughing right, yeah and if, as I wait a second, what do we do in and then

later there you know round to these finals, and I dont he's like how I try to be when I play fantasy football. Where I just I don't ever or fancy baseball too. I'm never going for it or not, I'm fine, I'm always like. What's the right trade by thy, I'm just trying to have fun danny age is the real live gm that like this, can be situation in toronto is like air. We don't know if we once the outcome anymore. I dare say what do you want form, and often these trading foresee outcome in the they wait. I thought we weren't gone further Sharon's Dana's like yes he's good. We just got global figured out, so I thirty six doesn't seem like a lot. I think I'm a are its thirty five and a half. I think I'm an over at the com. Over author, and this is my fourth straight over, which believe me have a la just a shitload anders common, but I think I'm in over for them I think there is somewhere in the mid the mid high thirty's the problem is the rest, the rest of the west, unlike who,

whose wins my taking right, yeah yell, that's why I are also a very good home team. That's why I went under an okay, see by the way, okay, that math problem arises you over under his launder. I don't like doing that too will hardy, but I liked their talent. I really liked their coach and even if they decide to pack it in near the end. That still might be enough to keep that up to pick, but not budget. We didn't mention him, they dump then in Jordan clarkson. They gave him more money. Kessler displayed to me. Saint imply that much, but I think he was one of the surprise kristen back in the forest on his back. This could be the year around. last one I'm going under just because I can't you five wonders in the same division, but is supporting trailblazers. Twenty seven and. Is the over under and as much as I love. This team is a league past. and I do like a lot of the assets. The west is too good and sometimes gotta give

and this team will be a sour I think, December january, with broaden and with robber lamps, keeping those guys would be nuts, maybe even jeremy, grant they just religious, an extension. But I think this team more aggressive. We tried to get more pacts, as we had four december January and that twenty seven and a half alas, when every night you're planning team, so it's an under for me- resell already got Ivan as well, I mean, even if they don't trade, those guys when you have a young backcourt. That is also going to be bad defensively, and you know they would have to be at a really high level offensively immediately, like I think, eight is going to put up better numbers than we have for many years, samoa Joe Barry kara, like twenty two and twelve august It's going to be like less little less deferential to this group than he would be to Chris Paul. While he was still there. You know duran booker like it's just it's just a little tougher to be like hey. Can I have the ball more,

this group. You can do it. I can't wait. I mean even the scoop pre season stuff, there's moments where I just get so aroused or yeah I'll just set the pick and roll stuff with him is pretty Please answer his gear to finish the again You are kind of like way is he think, he's going to finish right now and that's like one of my favorite thing with small players: blake wait. This guy is going to be able to we'll see other like super athletic. Smaller players be like, oh guess what you're going to play in the league a long time but you're. Never ever once can be able to finish the ramp. You just you, don't have that finishing package. So on I'm with the, I can't wait to watch anything eight has better numbers they're not going to trade all these guys. You know, I don't. I don't think that would happen, but I think it's a numbers game in the west, when I'm under twenty seven and a half they'll flip around then- and I thank them flip barbara, lamb's, ok, and that it might want robber Williams zoellick if he stays healthy, which is a massive if almost an unlikely. If, if you stay healthy to put next to Ayton, sensible- although I don't know like robber, williamson, a tiny, weird yeah, but

There is also- and this is to your point there seems to be like a lot of big defensive guys. Have these insane metrics yeah there watching like oh, is that I actually that good on defence or sea being asked to do what's the brook lopez we talked about this particular you need that really lopez, her it's the guy who plays nine minutes enemies Some nine minutes is gone full speed, but then you can't translated to forty because, like when you look at the brick lopez stuff like what look, what he does now and contests at the rim that we lunaria I was like okay. Well, let me look at it from this way. He never has to move. Rallies got one of the best perimeter defenders ever and drew an engine his shoes just horrify see what his stats are this year, dame lower trying to stop. You know tray and good luck yeah. So I I've come to the point where I like, I'm even more like with more access to numbers m, even more confused cause there's just some numbers out. There was some of these big guys that tell you that they are point differential and you know even the derringer. Some of the Darren jackson numbers are absurd.

You're, like so workable, resent mean like you're, not gonna score Moreover, the old advisory bands and three ts agnew that was coming yeah, I'm still mad about it. There's a chauncey billows peace to this to house it's an under a mean: hey, take it easy. I didn't love chauncey the player, I'm not sure This is a really weird team, where you have a bunch of guys her leg. and I could probably used by more shots again Jamie grant. They hey man clear out Because he had her- I didn't mean around here- to stand in the corner. Simons is like dames finally gone charters. I argued like mine, the rest guide, the team clearer for me, and then I think I should be urging twenty five of so I dunno there there you got me like my brother and shit cabinet. It's like finally yeah and then poor, tae bo who's just going to have to guard everybody yeah, it's a weird team, it's an under for me! So three under sorry, portland, let's

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There are some weird teams in this division will start the memphis grizzlies forty in a half as the over under for them they were fifty one and thirty one. Last year they ve been one of the most consists. Reliable, regular season seems we have really the only big, thing: they did was they they brought in marcus, smart there's, a derrick rose thing that people are excited about that I'm not even going to acknowledge because he hasn't been a a rotation mba guy in two years. their death is little weaker and they don't have ya for twenty five games, which seems relevant for the over under forty five seems too high for me, because there is a market smart guys. I got this, The jar comes back that I just watch mark a smart for ten years. Guess what he doesn't have it I'll I'll hold by thought. Worthier, whittier, quick thoughts of greece's mozilla

I want to like them more, but it was weird a couple of years ago in that golden state series, where yeah jaw like started hinting at like wait a minute. What's up with you, one member, he was as a code break and it's like nobody at touched you and then it was like they talked all this shit, but then, when they would lose, can do anything and inaccurate over the dylan. Brooks thing became army down breaks up now. Now he's gone, so you know whatever. Ah they weren't healthy, like they were very, very unhealthy like if that team were healthy and there was another job bullshit They lose their series, the lakers. You know. Last couple years: thou jar, twenty one, twenty two- they went twenty five They went to lebanon ten without him last year. I think the defensive numbers is more than a small sample, they're kind of better defensively without em

and I think they're. Ok, I'm I'm gone over here, despite ugh, despite some personality stuff with the team where I'd like it just to mature. I also think the twenty five game suspension looking is really excessive, but that doesn't seem to be a popular opinion wow. I

a lot of physic. There is some sort of breach with the league, and if there is more to it than I don't, I know that our than it does now find out, but if it is, it is seems like a lot, but again in the moment you it's a really hard to be the ivy league. Hey. This is really stupid. I should be doing this. I need twenty five games as an insane number, but they have a good track record without him, and I still I still liked esteem when their healthy. I think they ve done a really good job with the depth of talent here. So I'm goin over, despite back just, want to see owing to see this team post brooks jaw come back. I just want to see him be like the young, fun team. Okay, now now now be the grown up team that beats other teams. We got ass over. I like memphis. Ok, I like the depth, since one of our big disagreements so far the point that reseller made about their their defence of numbers and their competitiveness defensively. Actually at the beginning of the season during the

suspension. This is when they go go out and catch some bodies. We didn't get a real good feel for what the what he's laughing the hotel were in agreement. The luke canard bit can't be understated. They, they haven't, had a shooter like that which might wish part that his best friend the league, why I mean it's just a situation? This could be the best possible situation and stephen adds returning the health means. A triple jake is to go back to the position That he should play its power forward is not comfortable playing centre, which is why only averages for they were in a third string centre last year. You man I liked, but that they also kick ass at home. I you, you can not under state how competitive they are in their own building, an n you'd. I think they lost by games last year. Starting line up is smart in vain.

looks exile, williams triple jan stephen atoms off the bench canard unless he starts David, roddy cancels oppressed by and last year the body lofton Tillman. The dama conch are their grows. I'd alma complains a lot, but is legit rotation guy doesn't work on water by the way I dont like the depth compared to where the hell a couple years ago. I don't I don't Then this is where burn I was going to come in right now: Jesus Christ, sam as we were in fifty games every fucking year, what the He might be, doesn't really he doesn't f. Balmerchoffen. Helios bombs were on the phone or whatever off from august bar two years ago to inspire the year. Ya say what do you want a John car jar? I just think that twenty four

If you told me, I was by an entire sees it out go over, but if you tell me there, got forty six and thirty six when they're, probably around fifty. When team do. I think I have been gone for. One third of the season is worth five less wins. I do, I think, there's somewhere between forty three and forty five and that's where I have them. I have a question for you reseller about the ah. Would you bet if I gave you minus one? Thirty, smart revenge comeback year, plus one fifteen people realizing in December the celtics probably sold high on him. Where'd, you put your money, we already know the answer. The cell high. I mean the funniest thing ever of all the stuff tat we get blamed for as like. Oh now, you dont like smart, because you get trades like have you not listened unless we just hold on yourself yeah that this is not, then the mark, a smart fan pod.

no and I love marcus smart. I did not love him. Last year, I thought he looked like a tight end that was in his last legs. I think darter two years ago is the best basketball. He said he was weighed, but he was not. Get three years ago was I thought, brutal and when I talk about the defence, he got lit up by. I can't even count how many guards let him up by street he'd get a boner, because he would stand up against the power for rate and be like look at him. He just wasn't that good defensively last year. Now, maybe he was physically beaten up, maybe he'll be ok in this year. Maybe he was climbing the mountain like rocky balboa, to have a fuck you year very, possibly told Verna. I thought that was possible, but ass a thing the celtics I think feel like they sold high. So we'll see, I wonder with him. You know there was something on we in him and Joe mass there was all seas it from game on their work. I wonder if there was a leadership thing with internet, I I think keep they felt like a little bit more over the team that maybe wasn't great and

They wanted the iranians hell jenkins still out there I could see him be like its marcus time for a for a year and ideas, yes, that your majesty and no tries joneses like I don't know if I've had a favorite backup loved eyes. He was. Really important for this guy. I don't know that I've ever liked a guy that comes off the bench as much as him. In recent memory I mean granted. I sound like I voted him. Six mannering like that. I don't think I did. Can we talk through the first twenty five games of crunch time for them where it's smart Stephen atoms, who know, which is why I support it as it I'm, is that there should have been made after what number game gold had its day. Endangers night after night being ridden and cannot respond them, but over and over again is going to be like the celtics, where the ball's going to find smart with a minute left and he's going to side with a win or lose, and I think that's fifty fifty, maybe a little worse, you might be pulling.

After the underside. I'm not I don't know I don't. I'm gonna watch this ngo. Ah, I can't believe I ill or it's gonna go the other. oh, my god, this things really good on such an idiot because they were unhealthy on top of everything else they were going through. That was Rita had else is unhealthy. Other time I mean he's he's here, but they were not only in areas all made two thousand a big, even tsar who are in love it yet again the draft the humanly play, like thirty gains from last year's right. I think jane had some sort of injury. I think at least in february last ray yeah Larry, medium usa, ya, it's alive. desmond bayonets bandits lotta mark a smart just quickly, weird, have jobs in the can you please get you shit together, rankings z, one he might be one for me, but you can make a strong case resign just ahead. And of all I put a middle reality, t v there for me. Yeah

I think I'm rooting for job way. More than sand of all that, I am, I I'm ruined for job more than zion. Even I like and more as a player because I think was ion it's like we get a weird self inflicted debate year or whose done more egregious thing, but like some of it I still feel that good cry for help zaire has just like. I don't give a fuck we're, the gm comes out during the summer and basically says really. at Zion his his hand himself, like a professional all summer. It's like cool because is his fifth going to be his fifth MBA season, I'm psyched that he's been a professional seems like it's. A real problem is we'll get to rake eyes like science problems could be fixed with him just deciding. How do I want to go down this path?.

You know what I mean yeah, I don't want. The same is true of Jah. Well, it's a it's a different conversation. Yet, where you could you can win the debate against me by saying we'll jaw clearly is the guy that you'd be less likely to root for because he's doing this, their stuff. It again depends on. There is agriculture, so there's a cry for help: stuff africa, where it's ok, he already knew he was john yellow card, joy at least new, like hey, stay in shape and want to play bassi at all. Ok, we're there. I am, you know the stuff I've heard from the three different. You know four, like they ve tried everything with him. They tried Alvin gentry. Who was like I'm not gonna hold his hand. He tried stan, who you knows, forgot more about hoops and most people now, but that didn't work. And then it's like are been bringing willie. Who, I think, is a terrific, a coach and

I bring us in there too. It's babysitter won't like I just don't want thirty, four thirty on sign when he's thirty five well, we certainly found the first for five minutes, I like for whatever I can be totally wrong, but I've already considered convince myself that, like. This was a lot of weird shit for jaw very quickly, but then again sometimes when I look at we'll see we'll bounce back from that yeah. But you know what I'm going to actually I'm going to challenge, but there's been a few tweets jaw where I'm like. Oh wait: maybe you don't get it yeah, like the stuff, where, like three times a week for therapy yeah the the zion piece of they were talking aside and twitter, there is a there was a jumping clip of him. Making a layup line ready to dunk n I saw it on twitter, tiktok or my son said somebody said to me: it was like oh Zion's been putting in work and you just did like a dunk and I'm like that's not even close to what he looked like a duke like athletically he's. Not there anymore, I don't

you're right? I watched it. Do married ions. I've got a lily dad. It's like a second one of one. It's crazy, how that happens like I was watching the stuff pardon game were staff at thirty. Three in the second half drowned had gotten her and even watching, like those guys move around four years ago, it can. It can almost be alarming and watching the dupe zion stuff you like Well, that guy's gone like he's gone forever. It happened to blake griffin in like two thousand two thousand and twelve clippers early lob city, blake griffin, and then by the time we got to sixteen after that, a couple of surgeries he just wasn't explosive jumper anymore. Now, Rashid Wallis said quote about this were like I forget something.

It's because rashid used to just be violent at the rim, but yeah beginning any was huge, but he had massive pop and he had said something like you got. You got those dunks for like four or five years right and I don't care who you are like you're, just not going to have that same exploit. I'm thinking like what a cavity be saying that at twenty six twenty seven, but for a lot of guys on a right and unfortunately, we ve been dot, we ve been denied, the zion never come, and I dont think nude out he closed out on a guy in a corner and block the three new member I have the greatest basque by Highlight moment of your life until nineteen things, when he's gonna do the sheer yeah Oh, I don't know like look, you just get bigger older and what kind of stuff by their environment I gotta keep going so we're gonna, I'm under you guys are both over a memphis, surprising, ok, dallas,. We could spend one minute, there's a reason, spend thirty! The renders forty, three and a half their persuaded.

First, a vision which is an interesting short of memphis. You wanna get accepted there, some out twenty five When the title I'm happy to book does bets minus one entity for the play ass. I don't know where to start where we start risa, ok, Well, I mean, if you want to trumpet all with they have kyrie as their number two guy good luck with the over it's a hard argument to counter. But you know at forty three and a half I think it's, the lowest you're going to will luca at the stage of his career. I think LUCA, finally, is gonna, be a little pissed off about everything, like you still was doing it the right way, even though he needed a kind of step up his game, he could make an excuse to his way was always working because it made to the west cons carver finals two years ago, which was still sword aware what the fuck they baby phoenix. You know, I'm still not quite over that one, but it forty

in half, knowing they one thirty eight games last year, still or sort of tanking at the very end to protect a pick, and they one fifty two years ago, and I think josh dream is going to be good. I think grant gives him something stable You know they also brought these ever like the sound of conversation. Why is this not corrosion would voice talking? They don't have the christian would option anymore? Could he at once you have to get christian. What are your team to understand? Like? Oh wait, we had five years lucco you guys have been like. We gotta get rid that guy he doesn't fit her. Does anyone fit with booker? Oh, it's definitely getting you like the dangerous I daresay only but all hard and james hardiness, just like who does fit with LUCA notes. There said, is very kind of fits of them because we ve seen it and they brought set hurry back excited for thy love, seeing the hope for Dante maxim that, like you

its own nasty. Recently at the damage. Our dinner is an extra mile by himself with Jimmy rice gimme, the over, which you know I would want to do with cairo, but I just think it's a load number for what a great de LUCA year gives you want out. Can you put that in pencil in time done with my dallas part, because I might bring you back? Ok, but you have ass. I also prefer the over a cap because a bow, I, the of the esteem that I heap on LUCA, occur Korea is not had a normal and bases and since two thousand seventeen we we do in two thousand seventeen reseller worried. I we to April something we and seventeen at that point. Have your own show? No, I think I can just got laid off, and I was in manhattan beach looking for a house and they were like you're not being laid off. Can you please come back here? Was that

Exactly how about you ask what was going on in two thousand seventeen for you, I feel like I was trying to in April. I'd probably try to figure out who could pay for me to go to the masters. That seems like what I would that's every year yeah I do that. Seventeen for us think was like year, two of the ringer I just he's by two engine: ninety games in the last six years that low issue here he's paid twenty to play off since the two thousand. Seventy idols and every year he figures out a reason to be unhappy about something oh sideways on something, and I just can't get out of my head that he's gonna try to force himself to the workers in January february. There. while these assets that are rated they're ready to trade, they did that russell contracts specifically to treat it and if anything, about the situations unhappy and he thinks he has another place to go. We ve seen what he does and I just done, Must it and I don't really think even

fairly wanted, a reason with Dallas. I just think you did now he's probably gonna somebody cut this clip. Twitter time mine and then help build tweet at it with legs? weird emerging that I already up. I'm just saying this is a six year track record of one was the last time you had a normal bases in six years. This is, would be your seven. So I'm I'm going under. I just don't trust them fear if you, the secondary, were on the team. Your names carry, and I dont really love the rest of the team that the relying on two rookies like live was gonna play like the duke fans, when you ve been happy about lively Was a year ago I was in college, prosper, they're gonna need to play, Josh green, That's a moment's boat was buried by the end of last year and then grant was get the empty, Some boston, so on paper again, as I gotta get this, but I don't We trust any those guys I'm interested in hardy seth is probably the most reliable third ghana team I like grant. I live

josh green way more than Jane hardy they buried him. I remember that just green light fell out irritation by the end of the year. I, like ass green too power. How many bats? Can you get a like as a backup and Bob to lively being starter, it's crazy god everybody likes lively more after he left duke. I feel like that's like one of those nfl college football disconnects where one group can't believe the way the other group is talking about a player and in this case, like I, didn't love, lively's draft stuff at all like there's times he didn't even know. He is right. Next to the whim right. There's this one clip. I also have a rookie centers, I'm sorry, god! No, I don't look. I just feel like LUCA coming in a little pissed off. Knowing how disappointing last year was like Luka is good enough to get you to forty five wins. So that's my view as well and and to your point, everything that you laid out about kyrie misbehaving. This upcoming season could be true and they can still win games, it's better for him to play well, and

try and force what what do you want? I just think that's been, I think, top three most dysfunctional ibm organization for the last ten years, but not the last time for less ten. They ve had the most weird shit and just hard stuff to figure out the most kind of zags and trades, and they looked into. good trade, but I just don't see any cohesiveness with anything about them and I don't trust carry so if I'm wrong and this so be it, but I just couldn't risk. myself and by god dammit. I got somethin building on our forty four winds, but here's the favor I'm with you, norman Lucas, so good, it's a guaranteed. Forty five winds, but at the league is awesome there. So many great pleasure So I dunno. If you can just write that to me it's yoga and janis are the only two. Now they you can say. That's fifty wins by and we've seen, curry missed. The playoffs saw LUCA missed the playoffs last year. So I'm out

I had so I'm under you guys about the vets and good scream in situ when we and the clock would look for yourself what if they start out twenty four and twenty six yeah look. I think the hardest thing that you brought up is is interesting because it was kind of like in the beginning. You're like. Oh, my god is amazing. You look at the numbers and his series that he had against the clippers are like all time things you don't have to look at the numbers you just watch the games, but like the sky is like on another level, the battle he was having with coop they are, but when somebody needs the ball, this much you do wonder like I always wonder with the high usage rate guy at the top, and it's worked for other teams, but a lot of times. You're like okay, the best option is him having the ball, making a decision every single possession, but is that actually the best option once you get into the playoffs and it really comes down to like what that person wants? Where

you know it's just not my favorite, despite our impressively can be and how great the numbers are. So I dont see light evidence of those two been able to play together there and not so defensibly is some like since then I did I was eleven by the now. They didn't regret your touch. I likely. I retells the other guy, how smart he is when he's like, hey, if you were smarter, you would have understood that I was doing this well. We have officially arrived at the single hardest team for the over Why should we take one more break isler now? Let's take one more break. This episode, the best of his podcast, brought to you by Hilton, the dream vacation but can quickly turn into a nightmare even before check it like when you can't find the keys under the mat or the lack box one over the code. Those gave you isn't working, Why do you want to deal with all that stuff? Look. I've had a lotta impromptu trips that needed a hotel over the last.

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if he had. A meniscus thing is out for at least the first two months of the season, and we seen with meniscus as there always take a little bit longer than people said. Nance has some stuff going on. average us had some stuff governor that was basically you know their depth now angrily common off a really really He really weird team usa experience where they basically scratched him for the last two games that the deal get a virus. Haven't seen ingram as I play enough together. It's even really know what that is its the more I like a lot of the assets it, but it's like member that show the offer I like a lot of the people on the show, and I I really liked the godfather but the show's not totally working for me. That's the pelicans to me that guy was so good. As Robert evans, he was great matthew, goode, yeah, matthew, Goode, is counted yeah. I ended up reading the biography after that show. I want to know more about him

how can anybody become an interesting house anyway? Ah Gimme, the over phuket wow the thing is: I do that was going to happen here, it's great. Where do we or do we do we're due for one sees zion. I believe in it he is dead it. This is the brokeback though If I can't quit, I ziad a kick where you just can't cut him when he was point forward for that twenty five games, that was the most exhilarated I've ever seen, priscilla by profession. I was, in my mind, cause like he didn't even know what he was doing and I would see him learning like. Oh, this is what they're doing to me defensively and then he'd figure this out and he's a good passer on these drives. I was like okay, I'm in because yes, at one point last year, I thought this was the most talented one through nine one through ten in the entire ba. and if you're giving me just any chance of good luck right. Haven't had a lot of it down here. Give me the chance of good luck over. Reforms. Have I'm gonna locked it? Oh

I know we're not doing that. Yet we're not dna, but ok would have asked the only one- and you know this about me. I am nothing if not a petty gambler, which is to say, if I invest in you go super hard and you start two they had. The top record in the west is italian and house. It really is and the whole thing completely collapses falls apart and I lose all that money. I'm sorry fuck this motherfucker under under snot. I'm not you know it's it's it's it's there's too much bullshit going on all the time. You went through just a small bit of the injury stuff, but I'm not gambling on Brandon Ingram and Zion, not doing it. So t m, so their last six seasons was thirty. Three wins. Thirty, thirty one! Thirty six, forty two last five seasons.

New orleans is at two plants series winds in twenty years they ve had once loved one. Fifty one season, two latter, they have more lottery, wins than fifty and seasons and then, if you tie and history, the new orleans jazz. It's just something about best the ball in this city has not worked, and even when it seems like it, We working like last year with this. When he came window on in we're gone holy shit, are they can be the one seed? but we might have been done a podcast right around then masilo. There were twenty. three and twelve yeah. We were like mad wigan on his teams. Job of light, one seed raised the first few years of seasonably westwards awesome at will, them at this time. Last year we wanted a thing with jewels: nobody flowers at their feet. I had traded to closer, but he is the big question in this too. zero render? If, if it's just an inner out Are you in ASEAN are out on sign at this point out? I think I'm out too

you're stolen. You can quit him the heart, I'm just thinking like one year has to be healthy. So that's my play. Does not a lot of science behind ask why: why does that have to be? I would I would because I, like the rest of the russia, that much- and indeed I think we did this too. years ago, is the last year. The preview we were here two years ago. We did it at your house f. So that was like the very few so I've been wrong with these in the past, but like bring The idea of floating in bringing the salespeople data bring your marking team in and go and look let's, let's get something for him that savages, because we ve tried everything with it It doesn't work and there is always something weird about like the college football coach who wins at a major programme that guarantees you like two more good job. Yeah or like the guy that date, somebody really hard at a restaurant and then he gets dumped and then like there,

somebody elses sort of attractive is like well. I guess I'll give him a shot yeah. So like you want to be rewarded on the first transaction here and I still think there's a zion price that would make it enticing, but you'd have to get everybody on board because he's he's still their star, they have all their firsts. They had their choice between twenty four twenty five lakers. First, they can do pick swaps with Milwaukee and twenty four and twenty six They had the bucks twenty seven first. So if they're in the midst of the thing that scares me by going under with them, is that they're in the mix it on guys start becoming available and teams become disappointingly whenever like they could move fast. I just I trust it and I would rather bet on the past history versus the the hope that, as I am concerned, but I see the thing is, I think, if everybody else's right, they could still in forty five games near I, I see them right around that forty four point: five legged the money, forty five, forty four, forty three, it's gonna be somewhere

dismally run ahead. Air here under everybody's upset about the genius but think I'll goody was towards the last. see one of those guys that he's good when he has the ball the time, but the moment he's gotta fit in with a bigger. I was alarmed by how much he didn't fit in with team usa like alarm, maybe thought it was a scrimmage, the next one houston. So we have houston and san antonio left me can go a little bit fast. but Houston staff, because there are, under thirty one and a half their person I needed to make the playoffs. There are twenty two and sixty last year they add fred. Visibly they had Dylan bricks. They add thompson. You have my legs, they some add came, went morbid at this image is gonna play that much this year the address, those are favoured favour gauge of green. In shanghai, boon is now six four eleven which nobody is best to get him. So china forget what happened that A lotta assets, hausa therein of basque buzz for this theme.

The only one that matters is in the hands of their head coach and your My guy forecast for the season is, is a forecast of what kind of impact and he may have. You got two of his guys. He clearly influence the acquisition of F v v. Bill brooks he had a say in it over he made it had aims hard and worse glass, tat james Arden shit word, he sure dead. Nobody believes that I'll say that four months he squash said, then it I just kind of bring it take it back a little bit. He was like no, it was just like we love them, but it is an that you scratched it so we're talking about a ten when improvement over last season seems like a lot, but the you know there has been some it's it's an entirely differ.

character of team red it may be, and it may be a year or take a year to get to the type we watched he may have cause for a year there and that dude is like he holds everyone super accountable, doesn't put up with bullshit, he hates bad shots. You have to buy defense. He doesn't want any whining bitching all that stuff. He will yank your ass from the court. If you do One thing it doesn't like and there's a bunch of guys of this team that are gonna get yanked off the court and it didn't work for the first. You know the celtics were firing, your five hundred. Where were they until they went on the re run? It was an error. Like laundering. I've learned twenty five one of my favorite things about. He makes the guy she will come back to the benches. the fuck. Are you like, and I can't wait to see him today, I mean granted last year's team. Would it had a mud harder time when it is when you think about jailing, green and in giving porter down near had so

I don't think vengefully in dillon brooks add ten wins to your career. This is an email bet that that's the the argument. For me, it's too many wines, because I think I think I my fear at this team is del head to the place that they're gonna get to I think the first forty games are gonna, be tough and there's also like multiple teams on this team cause. There's a couple versions of five guys that I, like. there's a howl, and yet If there's level here, where you go, okay, it's J Lim. We still have hope for Jabari. I like more towards the end of the year when he initially he was initiating more of his own stuff, but was like you could just tell which bari like a kind of suck for him cause he's got this back court. If they have to have the ball in their hands at every single time and look Zach Lowe even did this thing on on jalen green, but it felt a bit like the message of. Can you please be this guy that zack

What was hinting at in some of these because there's some numbers that are really good, they're baked in there and then there's some horrifying ones where it's like after pick raw, this is the number of times if it led to an assist there, because you can just see he isn't. It was a take, turns team, yeah and it feels like within. Lee, because he's so good on and off the ball that they were like hey. This will sort of force our guys yet. But this isn't about jalen green score, thirty, a game. If he wants to, I mean they they can let, but that's not what this is. It's him figuring out how to play with some other, really talented, guys like five or six young deeds on this team that I actually like, but you Can I love? Were I thought I love Whittemore? I think you could be he was your favorite acid on this team as it is to bari. For me, it's the bar for me as well, because of the growth that he showed us at the end of last season. I might add

shin goon. Second yeah. I thought he grew was like I was astounding to me, is probably like the most fun. I mean look jalen green has possessions where you're like I mean it's funny cause. I think I'd have him. Third, I was, I think I was back home and they were playing ball. justin yeah and I was like yeah. I know he puts up some numbers, but he's like a little shit and jalen green looked like fucking jordan in his second year I mean he was heard, so I hope it works out for him, but I mean that's kind of the thing like if you're a rockets fan, you need to see some kind of it's not just a numbers thing with him cause a lot of guys, just bigger number, but don't you feel like it like you, we gonna have to know after this is and in some way yeah with them. well you're. Sorry this is, that's gonna, be a little more professional job definitely took a step up. You can see

and some are legally gazeta, doubling guy, if it doesn't change, do we bring, then you know the team is like hey. I think we're in a kind of like pivot, Howie initiate some of our off and stuff and the air like weight. So I'm not the chosen one anymore, is there anything funny or the better and later dylan Brooks the china jokes or just you know, purely like people wanted him. You go under house. Oh I hate it. I cause thirty one is under but I do wonder I really really to the under for me. I really wonder: do over it's. The west is too. thirty two inches. Alas, it is too good you, you know what we talked about. A bunch of teams with good coaches in this team has a really good colleague,

There's some team. We ve talked about so far. What it's gonna be right, I'm terribly iraqi vernacularly insight about it, the beer he is going to be really hard and ok. Ok, I, like there's gonna, be the movie where this of the said our superintendent comes in and is just super may never in the school for the first half of the members practice noble Last team, san Antonio, just as an aside I buy, went to one travel team and my dad was like what did you guys do like? Oh, we didn't they didn't. Let us use a ball like you're, not on this team anymore re, yankee man. He always thought that was like yeah. That's the worst thing just cause, there's You see what scrimmage I wanna see yet re ask that'll, be the best way to tell who someone who doesn't it's always a good, but let's have no box. You wear your clothes out there, like in the corner for an hour, I've seen it twenty eight and a half last year, twenty two and sixty delegated by them a victor remedy. Ama. Do it

two. It was so for them to hit this over, isn't you're not going to area for them knit this over he's got to play. Seventy games. the all time we don't have to do anything team. I don't see how you play seven again: The problem here, if you gave me seventy games at him, I could talk myself intellectual, Nine and forty one in those seventy games, because he's so good, but I just don't think I don't They see the season this way. I think that's why they don't go after us and reefs. I think that's why they did some will take your bag contract trades, and I think this was a throw away season for them, even though everyone says the drafts that that good. This

stratfor, I ever reason yeah these next two are supposedly I mean you know, there's there's a couple ignite, guys, there's a guy from Perth. You know, there's not, but you know this shit changes really quick like. I always think it's funny when front offices are like. Oh the draft in nineteen months sucks. It's like we're all going to be in Chicago and you're, going to be telling me how great it is one through six there's, always somebody that pops up. Yet the mis eighteen year olds to like hey guess what some get better. One of the things I don't like about this over under is you have to hit twenty nine. I can't see any stare where they were, like thirty five, so now give me this like five Window house.

But then you give me all the upside of under the twenty eight and a half where, if they you know when be, gets, hurt for two weeks and they all of a sudden, they go on a losing streak or they just yank 'em or they rest on whatever they have to do it. It's a regret, fonder to mate, but I did stare at it for a while, especially because vessel didn't really play last year. I think he played thirty thirty five games. So getting him for failure with they are now the it seems like you, you know I it too easy under for me this is, I think, you're gonna make you sad that I feel sad news. I know their building, not there like. If you look at the talent of san Antonio and put aside, I started to use in houston was a much bigger challenge for me here. I think that houston situation, I hate going under on Houston, said antonios building and it doesn't make sense for them the rush. This can never not gonna their smart I'll. Take your time we'll get the right players

they'll learn about you know what kind of n b a player he's going to be and how to use around that yeah yeah, so they're they're, not in a hurry, he's going to be the most viral and be a player we've had since we've had this whole infrastructure. I think that's the only thing. That's guaranteed with that might have resigned in zaire, had some injuries and some stuff on it, the napa them, but just from the little step, we seen the precision. There's that very thing like this. He Is my son as the most excited about him as he, and about any basketball where, since she got on social media- and I just think he's gonna be a thing over and over again, a really fun wrinkle. It's one of those vs on t v, I'm probably gonna watch them cycle, psycho. Fourth quarter and it's kind of close someone to see what happens her. If you're under reseller, I am either there just not very deep, this isn't despite some the pick some a later picks I haven't loved and I just don't see why they be playing him

You know I just am always going to be scared of the big guys that don't move like big guys and that's the beauty of him as a player, but I mean, I think, it'd be weirder if he didn't get hurt, one of his first, three or four years, yeah, there's danger, essential with them not download, but I'm under. I hear Here's where we had danver of us, were over fifty two and a half Minnesota, meaning for over forty five and a half for scylla was under. Ok. a city. I'm over resellers over forty, five and half as well house. Under your regret, thou in us you tat, thirty five and a half. I went over reseller when under house when over portland twenty said and all of us under Memphis, forty five and a half I went under you guys: When are we learn languages lot? For these first hand, fuck you doubtless Forty three and a half I went under you guys went over you'll regret that new Orleans

already. Foreign have me under house under scylla over Houston the one and a half or I'll under and san antonio twenty enough where all under that is it for part. One. Thirdly, what is your favorite over under probably resellers blind love of the past? it's why he didn't, but you knew it was coming yeah now of korean come on, I'm I'm with you like. I want it to be right. I just don't think this was produced by steve sorry to cut crane. They do for party and part three will be. Nearly twenty cents will listen We must be

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