The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo for a classic fake NBA trades podcast. First they gush about the Timberwolves and wonder whether the Clippers are for real (1:14), before they discuss possible trade candidates, including Donovan Mitchell, Dejounte Murray, O.G. Anunoby, Zach LaVine, Draymond Green, and many more (15:04)!
Host: Bill Simmons
Guest: Ryen Russillo
Producer: Kyle Crichton
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I cast ryan reseller. He has been on in awhile, we'll talk about that. We usually wait until the second half of the year. We couldn't this year too much going on, wear makeup, a lot of trades. I hope you're ready, hooper,
sit down. First, our friends from project taken this tuesday morning, specific time programme assiduous here, make up a bunch of trade set of fixing before we do that we had set but the timber words because
the store the year right now they had
great when it gets miami last that has come about from makes lakers than we thought.
The phone, a new relax you ve gotta watch the fourth quarter, you ve gotta, watch it
gotta see what happened and that game minnesota looks like a team that make the fires were seller. I don't think this is fluke eat the twenty five.
They played the events better than everyone else in the whig. They have a guy who believes she's the best possible way get edwards, whether that sure that he believes it and they ve got the townsfolk
birthing go and have a bench can this they make the finals ya think they can unite still feels like. Is it because
you're, more open minded about what the west really is. No comparison to those other years where it's like. How is anybody beating golden state in one? So when you look at the west, you go is Denver this.
insurmountable thing or
is oklahoma city going to add a piece you know which will mess around with today. A little bit you know. Are you completely writing off phoenix? So if that's, how we're talking about the other three teams- and I think it would be dismissive to say Minnesota- can't win the west, so I am not going to say that I think the towns go, bears
like whenever go bears the middle. The paint, your liquid fuel, how housing and impact a guy like anthony,
The hoop like that. Actually gonna get kind of way in the way that he stepped up defensively. The way he made bam think about its decisions and the fact that they can interchange,
towns and not read as these huge spacing bigs and go in a kind of category four.
Sounds defensively, and then I think one of the credits to all this is like towns prob
Billy reluctantly, at some point may be last year going like august. Anthony Edward sky is better than me
and having the right personality to make it work cause, I'm not sure the towns like, I would bet the town
It would be totally cool with that and then you throw in jayden back defensively like what we saw them do against the wings for boston. I even think
Alexander walker stepped up. His defence, where we have Daniels's out, was like hey, that's, not a total loss either and in oak
only it was a diminished version of himself. You know was, was huge last night with a couple of big shots, so yeah, I'm I'm open to it. I'm.
I'm ready for I'm not sure that I'm predicting it, but I think writing them off. It be dismissive after what twenty five games,
You look at them and you go. I don't even really know what they need. I guess they could use point guard insurance with calmly, but yeah
their red and alexander walker come in, and there really good colleague, Anderson is a fun change, a pace guide for them eat. The biggest thing is what you said with towns that.
Edwards. Not only is the force of personality that team, but I think he really gets towns go and I've heard about a couple. People tell me like he's here.
I am fully with towns, get em kind of focused and centred and I'd. This is probably my favorite version, the towns that I've seen all year. There is a plan
Fourth korea, yesterday, when I hid butler on him, and he just kind of bali bottom in the corner got caught like a twelve photo, but the go. Bear peace
the fact that they figured out how to play him in towns, together, it seems Cindy,
Conceivable year ago we were talking about that has been one of the worst trades in history, the league, I still think they bad
overpaid. I don't know who us are bidding against. I still think last summer they wondered trade go bear, they would have had to attach pics to it. That's how bad last year was
It's been this miraculous turn around and I gotta say leg. I haven't loved what I've seen from Denver, I'm still. If, if if it was at gunpoint, I think I would still pick yoke kids in the west, but this man
so. The team is built, beat denver whether they can do it, and I don't know, but they have just begs to throw him for four quarters.
they have a guy and edward sue. I think, will really attacked them and think he's better than them
They might have homecourt to their twenty five right now they ve three game led the west end.
Lebanon, one at home and when you
what's your home games, that they have a real home crowd thing go now too, and I just thought I'd now that their healthy thou, the big Dana's his back. I just think this keeps going. That's when take your cause. That's
It is Denver somebody that can coast remember how bad they play
towards the end of the regular season, when it looked like yoke etched in waiting, I we
and then Malone even got on their case. So I think, there's always gonna, be a benefit of the doubt thing that that we should do with them.
But at least minnesota has size to disrupt whatever it is that yorkshire is going to do like he's, probably going to have to set up a little bit differently like some of those times where y'all could just like. Aren't enough of this then gets a deep catch and just works you in the post and the other team as no
ants against it. Minnesota has a chance against a few. Other teams. Do.
Yeah. So what I love about it when I watch some of these teams and grow like oklahoma city is a lot of fun. The maybe there
second best team in the west, but
we need another big, but you need to be able
too much liberties in love with like hey, here's, our seven or eight man rotation, and this is who we are the places all we're going to do like Sacramento is too small for denver in Oklahoma city's, probably too small for denver das,
his spofford for Denver yeah. Alright, you know so in an I think, Anthony Davis, if he's healthy, like I've seen games in the west, where I go whatever the score was was one thing, but
How are you gonna handle? I mean golden state should still have nightmares about not having any other match up option against Anthony Davis Leubronn getting into the restricted area at will throughout that serious last year. Yet when you watch Minnesota- and you watch, you know even the bam stuff that that catch in
and like oh, like what do I do in bam, even get a couple of two role in or area would have had a disastrous fourth quarter. So I'm with you,
I don't know the headline of the parties medicine,
when in the whole thing, but you have to put them,
they're with every other team in the west and I dunno his bits and even chance. You know again. I dunno what the odds would be, but at least I can visualize what it would look like and even even if it feels
newer than than some of the other teams you'd, say: hey, they're, absolutely a contender to win a title. I'd feel comfortable, saying this at least if they stay healthy, they're going to get the one seed in the west. I think that's the
happen and in their first the net rating with the items I win defensive rating and I think that's gonna say
that way. I'm there one a hundred and six point six per hundred possessions, one interesting thing with them when
again, as you know that does on a bit, I come with the two men, three men of different lineups, just the two men
edward them again us as plus thirteen point eight and if,
feels that way. When you watched him again, get themes the thin that scared me, as the celtic fan, watching that watch them lose that altogether, the tea wolves was that tape.
And brown, just won't getting the shots that they were happy with. A everything was contested with those guys
as began as an edwards together when edwards once by defence, it is so scary, but man
it's the story of the year. Okay, see when we're to make up some trades. I do think okay see if they, if they really cashed in those picks and when, after a couple of guys, could go after him, I'm not giving up on denver. But to me, as I look at both conferences, I I can't take any contender seriously that doesn't have size
as the sizes back in such a big way. You look at these boston. Philly Milwaukee
and then my aim is gonna, be there and then you look at the west in its minnesota and its denver and and probably ok
if they they can add somebody other in that. You know that their lakers a baby
and we, I dunno, know what their trades gonna be and then, after that it depends on. You know whether this cooper,
thing is for real, which is the other thing we have to talk about quick before we make up trades coopers have looked fantastic, there's blowin teams out and.
I think it's a honeymoon faced with harden and not by an it paul, george and core enquire healthy
had been healthy the whole year. If you have all these guys together,
mean. This is going to be the way it goes for seven months and everybody's happy, maybe I'll, take that seriously for the playoffs, but we just weed
here with these guys in all these different ways and
the matter. What they're doing out, I'm just just grain assaulting it.
How are you where you right now that with with which I mean what which part of it? What are you
me. Why we, neither of us like the hard, a trade war.
now there now they look really get the reason
ask it. That way is because yeah right now it looks awesome, but I'm never going to get that part of the the back of my head to be like. Okay, what's going to look like once, we actually get into the playoffs so like lit, let's be fair to hardened here, okay, I take harden side on the,
I think I do. I dont know why, guy which would give himself a thirteen million dollar airport and then and then
You know which was weird because anyone who credit for it like three different times
yeah? But you never actually senate, like based on your
You mean your positions, that your promise that you are and what
in others this is going say they. They never promised anything that that he's out of him
and in their is miscommunication with loathing are thing, so are the other partners
it's very hard indeed to say the words I'd take heart inside. I just want to show her that god, how can I I'm always on the contract thing? With this? I don't look. We've watched the mba. We've talked about it for a really long time. I don't think guys give up thirteen million for no reason: yeah, okay, okay! So then, when he first gets with the clippers basketball team seemed to do this of
and build they'll do something dumb because of feelings, knowing that it's a damn thing
and to have hardened, come off the bench because you can't have whispered play off the ball words light
Alright, how long you going to do this. So you know the plus minus fast for harden the beginning. Was a disaster and every
It's pointed out like I referenced, but I know that when I, even when I references like yeah, but if he watches like harden's out there with the
second unit because
you know they don't really want to disrupt russ, but at the same time like lou, wasn't gonna. Do that and now guess what look at the hardened plus minus stuff that he's playing with better players now westbrook, because westbrook has to have the ball in his hands, which will the lakers are like a kid, isn't going to work,
I mean he didn't want to come off the bench and all that kind of stuff. So you know now that he's playing with them
players and I think the more important thing like look wise numbers in december there
Sir? So if that's all clicking- and it was funny ducas like I- was watching
le lakers in
in the dallas game and I went man if the clippers have all three other dudes with george and kawhi and harden healthy. Will they have enough if they're in a playoff series to hang up on the perimeter defensively, you know granted vandals
in our customers. I don't know, I don't know, still have enough options there defensively for this parameter stuff, maybe eight
cancel out so yeah. It looks awesome. They figured out the hard piece of it is finishing
the rim far better than he was like the first two weeks, and he was there that show this massive amount of decline. But it's all irrelevant to me unless they're healthy it it just it. It may may end up with a great.
See, but it just a really hard team to buy mean help wygants Phoenix. Last year the couple play games. He played you're like won't like this system
Look like two thousand as nineteen tyrannical y yeah. I went
there's an night. I was stunned by how much better he looked than how he looked like
two weeks earlier when I saw him in person when he looked like fast and explosive and just like five years ago. Quite so that
that was more interesting to me than the heart of peace cause hardens gonna come ago. Right now, he's in shape. He's happy he's a good, but we just know the roller coaster read the deck as at this version of the post, houston version of him. I just don't trust it. We ve never seen I'm happy for more than two months. They also they
That would that daniel ties just being able to get another big body who at least knows where to go, and what to do you know and they just they just don't
as a by our guy, you in a hasty, either way we but were tortured by the taste minutes when he was a boston but he's at least like component
and they just candidate it. Somebody who could at least just be competent.
Oh and they didn't have that once a once plenty went down. So the big thing, though, is you know: they've had kawhi and george out the now for two months, and we haven't seen that in how many years
Is it? Ok? If I don't trust that its bradley, because my boy, it could make a one one day before he got her. I just that the track history of aviation.
Yet heard every year. To just think. Oh it's not going happen. The sugar we help address, don't trust it
they could use another big and Titus funny cause, it is nice to be able to watch him get worked again like I just one.
See ties like I know now, with drama green really are on a different level. Sensitivity of players assaulting other players, but yeah like how many times are you going to get hit in the face like watching him as boston? How many times you just would be on the baseline, with his face all red
Turning to the rough being like a smile, Chris Pollack, annihilated unless they got a flagrant christmas eve.
Is that he can't tasters takes more abuse them anyway,
the history of the whig. It's hilarious, yeah
by the west goes gazette experience. It just adds up to four percent you're gonna, see at the entire time. So ok
The whole point of me going like what are you asking me its awesome right now, its awesome and nothing help shares your scoring output. More than facing the papers. I mean my god.
Looking at that score and be like wait. They have one hundred and three and there's like five minutes left in the third quarter. So, ah it-
It looks really good. It looks at hey all the good players are playing. It looks really good. You don't talk to me in may the pace, there's our lack of one of those.
Sad addition: commercials where commercials, where it's like the dark side of making the in sees internment indiana, thought that their policies was ahead
them after they bade the files, and then they never one again it just it's. The lakers comrade seems like a broke them in some ways.
And that's a team that is on my my fate trade, this most likely trade guy, for you would go back and forth with swap trade guess coz its trade says in its midst.
amber summer subject. Jordan's of commodity table is technically but bobby march, at a great rate of light years. The number of December trades like was
but yeah not really not really, I mean I could find it again, but I think the number I'd forgive it was zero last year, a one, but yet so you want to do what you want to go back and forth on most likely traded guys and throw some trades at each other, and then we'll do some trades and some teams that we think, but I thought we'll just go back and forth with the most likely guys will end up with like a top six. But Allah you go first, who do you think, is the single most likely good player to get traded,
in the next two months. I think it's Donovan mitchell cleveland's in a you know for a young team. We're sitting here. Talking about the clippers is a health bet. The cavs aren't supposed to be a bad health bet
and mobile- is gonna- be out two months. Garland has broken jaw mitchell's, always good to miss a few games.
And this is a team in the regular season last year that put up some really impressive numbers. You know the best defense you're like okay. What are they going to look like in the playoffs had already mentioned, like you know, sometimes when I watch them in that next series, I kind of think bigger picture like. Are they going to be able to play the two bigs? So there's
It's like there's a bit of a power struggle here with what mitchell wants, but it seems like no one around the league actually thinks he wants to stay in cleveland he's under contract next year. He's got a player option the year after that it just. It feels like with the way the knicks
I like the knicks, are pretty good. I want you to talk movies. You saw him in person last night, but it.
The tv on this one seemed to be pointing the direction that may be clean,
it's the reset button to try to get some assets before it gets uglier, and this is something that
been burned before this season. We had guerre bush on this package is from Cleveland with that does show there, and he was saying this is in august, that nobody thinks she's staying there.
you know what I did that's what we ve heard. I haven't heard anybody by no. No, he has a wrong. He stan. Everybody seems to think he's out at some point and they were doing this year is, could be the test year. Couldn't
worse, boldly out of how long he was hurt, but that the six to eight weeks for the new surgery I as
As you know, I'm always on the record of. I never believe it's going to be. Oh he'll, be back in six eight weeks. I always feel like it's going to be worse than that they are.
We're playing well anyway, and I think that may be what happens first, that they think they have a chance to keep Mitchell as they change the coach and if they don't, they damage.
just keep Mitchell. Then they move on the mitchell trade, but I'm with you. I think I had three mitchell trades.
And I mean-
It's gonna be my Amir Brooklyn and
I think everybody feel. Even I am my miami your book
one or new york. Well, we'll talk about new york. I I'd
I I would vote by a mere brooklyn as my favorites, because, especially after watching the next last night, I dont know if
it's a great move to use other assets to get another small garden needs a ball that time. That team is pretty brunson. Dominant and brunson has been excellent this year, but he has the ball a lot and
like to me. I I I would want a big if I were them or I'd wanna like a like a shooter with length versus a just another small garden needs above all the time. Now, if you get them at a fifty percent discount
I'm fine with that, but I, if I were them, that's not out it used my resources that the knicks are little screwed cause they
we're headed the summer. There is a point which is that we make a yacht us, make it a bead. Those guys have a chance to be super unhappy. Honest as one assigned extension and beads got this hearted saga. Now
did the happiest he's been his entire career and yacht ass? They made the dame danger. He signed the extension. So the question for the nexus.
Are there? Is there better asset coming down the road and the if we get that emit?
Is that really gonna change? I destiny. I think there's still to swarm Robinson.
Out for a while, but even a sink comes back at I just don't they bear the size. The competing at some of these big contenders
as Mitchell, change that I don't see how it will again
in emmy granted the robinson injury hurts tebbs, it's pretty clear out. You know how bravely orders,
just about hardish time and then in a way
Europe will start again the other day who may be only wrote
I shall die. He saw his eye gets off man. I mean it was by a fourth quarter, minutes for their master. It yeah once they signed taj. I was I don't like you know. This is ass, curing the anti backs.
Whenever we're talking about like the ball dominant guys, I it like I
admit, but you go man, I'd I'd, love. This awesome offensive player to also want to play with the other guys,
so you're going. Ok, wait, talibans, thou how burns can have the bob at yesterday's nineveh.
right you like the warrior spoiled us, because you had all these terrific players that wanted to play with each other, and then I would say, that's probably the x.
Option in the nba. So there's two things like: ok, you taken it away from brunson, that's probably bath
because, even though his ball dominant mean he was so good in the fourth quarter last night, like reading the screens, the lakers couldn't quite figure it out. He rejects another screen hits a floater like he played the screens in the switches like perfectly every single time. So
haven't you ever make a case. Is the hardest guard to guard and the whig other than shea right now this hershey jerky shit that he does. Nobody seems to be able to get a feel for it. He gets the shot he wants
every single time, so I dunno how Mitchell would help him. I don't count luke as a guard. You know that okay, art and literature, just making sure iowa is sometimes it feels like many luca when you're watching brunson like this, because it's not it's not necessarily fast. It's just that. He changes, speeds
all the time and then in a kind of just finds a way and find ways of his stats. This year for brunson I mean which once he's he's forty eight forty six eighty hours splits is forty six percent from three this year,
and at the end of these games he's just doing getting wherever Sally wants. Anyone got any know, so I think
when you look at you. Go well wait a minute if you plug Mitchell in here ended by the way it's another small guard, the teams. You know when it comes to playoffs about okay. Well, let's see how well as bronzes stuff works. You know the lakers even try to blitz him at one point that I thought was a little bit too late in the game because they were just letting him dictate everything.
you, like- maybe Mitchell, isn't the perfect fit. You know like you know, Mitchell can go off
but he also can get a little single minded. You know at times even saw that with utah stuff so hate is that really fit? I don't think that's what teams did
I think, teams go hey. We have our barrett, who is now seventh and fourth quarter minutes for the next. I looked at them.
Like last year. No one spoke more time tracking orgy barrett forthwith,
rise than I did in the world last year. My number one of those while at rio just riding and magic marker right and I'm
I like why. Why do you keep doing this? I mean that's, that's a significant drop. He was like at eight minutes.
The fourth point, even though tips what kind of some amount strategically because defence
Will you clearly doesn't trust him now? He's seventh and you
hey orgy, all this money. You know it's twenty four, twenty six, twenty eight
twenty nine thirty, you know so it's this massive extension at kicks in and so on
out a piece piece with which would be one of my my fate trades. He go aright, fine, he's, not perfect, and maybe there's not a perfect overlap of
of usage because they're both high usage, kind of iso players and all this stuff, and then you have to make sure you still have the randall possessions because he's fixed some things since a disastrous start with season, I think team.
just go. Look uh lesson. I think you just go. Ok, cool! Yes, not perfect, but it's better.
It's better and we're removing we're just we're better now we're better, because we have Mitchell instead of this, like you, you talk about waiting around for the next mad star, which will happen and we will be surprised, but I dunno, like that's a tough tough way to build a team like hey he's, not perfect. So let's wait for the perfect guy, like he sure about that. So the case for the next trying to make moving in the next two months as they have these three two thousand twenty four dallas detroit washed impacts. All of them are protected. The dallas pick is top ten protected, so that's going to activate
The troy pick is protected. All the way through twenty seven probably are not seen after couple of years than the washington pick is basically you're, probably not seen until two years from now, but they have this window to try to trade. Those picks cause the protections who knows, and I just I think, there's better moves for them like not to just turn the center next segment, but
An an obe is a free agent right if you're toronto. Why wouldn't you just flip in an ob for barrett grab? What like one of those protected, picks and just call it a day he won cause. I let
If she like baird, I think he's you know it's a weird. This is a maybe the perfect team for him. But when I look at a team like toronto, I actually think you'd play better for the
pussy canadian they're gonna lose then, and only then in the air they lost family for nothing, which I still don't really understand. That strategy.
and I would I would to me that's a trade that made the sailors match
and about the next. I would rather do that and see what it looks like before. I then made the mitchell trade.
Who do you think is better ogier mitchell, oh mitchell's, better than oji, but I I just think benches going to cost a shitload of staff like what what Cleveland gave up for mitchell. You know it's three first, two
wops in the market and was in that trade sexton, ms in that trade, but nobody liked marketing and everybody was office. Excellent, I'm just saying they you. You, then can't just give him away for two firsts and a player like you're you're they're, going to be trying to get picks back. That's why I actually think, let's take a break,
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I come back. We're talk about that in the middle and I was sent out that my aim in brooklyn were the two candidates you felt at last day. In that
maybe minnesota game hero is a good good. Score is twenty to twenty three.
It's a game. Guy he's not as good as that of the measures and a bad mitchell in that game. Last night, that's a different miami minister,
to get their multiple, based as they could go and its basically the same. Canada.
stuff. They were our friend in the dame rumours whatever is true or not, but if it was Mitchell fur.
Tyler hero, yobit shoes, lighten up the g league. I didn't even know I just know: he's played g league games, and then you go here: twenty four, twenty, eight thirty. First, maybe there's some sort of swap in there and that's a pretty good outcome for the cavs cause. Hero would be able to replace the latter.
offences is probably a better fate with garland, and I thank you and I are both waymore vested in the garland piece of this. I've never
the garlon mitchell kamba. I think that is good
Maybe do I would not put hock as in the train of asthma aiming to me he's just not trading it. No, I don't
you have to. I mean you also have to figure out, like the whole reason for the next in the first pass through
The mitchell thing was they didn't really believe that there is a threat right, so they were like. Ok.
And whatever and then Cleveland comes out of there and then hands him a couple of pieces that look even better now and then all the pics, but with hawk as he's not the kind of guy that gets included in this stuff, he just doesn't.
You think that brooklyn new york in miami are all bidding and then it has to happen, but
Oh, is hero better than our j, their different players. I think what I like about thar jays like his.
that little spin move driving the basket stuff is. If you have a team of guys, your account,
that said the perimeter, and then you have him pounding. It makes sense issues I with him in brunson, it's a tiny bit redundant and randal. Both ran on bare and have similar like that.
ben kind of put your shoulder into them starve. I I I like hero a little bit more yeah. I think here's, the better player
In others know, there's some numbers that would tell you this is the best bears played for a while, but yet he's playing less minutes. Yeah now he's
he went. He was around thirty five minutes game for about three years and now he's at under thirty tech. I think quit the fact that quickly last night, him and quickly was great last night. That's the other thing with mitchell to the next. Like quickly does some of this stuff huh
expect mitchell to do. You know he's not as good as Mitchell is, but I just don't think that's what they need and the brooklyn trade is the one that I think makes the most sense to me because brooklyn's in a weird
where they don't have any their packs. So if they're doing any sort of trade, it makes sense for them to improve
not go backwards and they have you know they there.
a shitload of stuff, the lad, the twenty seven and twenty nine phoenix verse
about the twenty nine, doubtless first they have officially pick they can
Johnson who is eligible to be treated in a couple weeks, so they could put together. Like came johnson camp thomas to Phoenix first, the twenty nine unprotected dallas first than an
take financial data, they have the most to offer and then he gets to stay in newark him and bridges together and that's not nothing, and then they just sign him to an extension. Minimum
it's called connecticut, I think he wants to be in new york and that they just have more often next to it. While they have the pics and they're, not they don't feel like they're disrupting anything, either right right
Doesn't she alight, with the next conversation that we just had you're going? Ok, how does it fit? I still think it's important keep hammering this point like. I think for offices. Go hey, it makes us better and makes us better. We
but Mitchell. His ceiling scoring in the plants is beyond autonomy. Players in this lead were
If you're the nets last year was like a little,
lucky because remember they had, I think eleven game's over five hundred head start when they tore it down. Yet, unless onwards, you kept
Looking at the seeding being lahaye they're still around the still around so gathered, actually built up a bunch of wines and that's why they're good
in the play, ass, an bridges
goes off and bridges has been better I'd after kind of the start of lightweight was
add a little fluky like him being the number one option I mean it certainly was like nobody's going to build their team and say: hey bridges needs to be the number one overall option, and but they have, I would say, Finney smith's available
all right on the clearly available dinwiddie, clearly
bilbil. Do any of those things, get you more action
than orgy barrett or tyler here force, not right
right so you're saying
you go in and you go in for mitchell if you're brooklyn. Also, like a you know, I I feel like after the top after Boston philly Milwaukee
the forces kind of available right now. You know
could be the next. It could be whoever, but these days and as good as the west, I don't know I
If our brooklyn, I would do it because I really care about the pigs down the road. I feel like I've lost all their rights.
Events, you know they they were going toe to toe a little bit with the next and now with wins. Last night's conversation you have they probably in the top five teams. I've watched the least on league pass. I just don't care they're, just not that interested the supermen mitchell them lamarche said I have a dark horse for you, though you met at written this down to what about new orleans for him. What? If? What? If I offered you CJ, Mccollum and dyson Daniels.
In my twenty four first and I gave you that lakers pick they have that you can take it this year and next year you know I'll even thrown by twenty seven bucks first and I'll take down the mitchell
it now. I'm ready ago I got hopefully fingers crossed
was, I add that he might be a shape in two months I got Brandon ingram and I got down the mitchell and I got length all over the place. I can spare data
because I have other swing men who can defend. I got to keep your hawkins and I'm just and kept cap this and murphy.
I kept the ads and I'm I'm actually ready to contend now. I have options at dinner. I have three guys I can go to then the game that can score like. Why? Wouldn't they get in this, I guess cause may because they would think they. We can't resign him
in two years yeah I mean that's going to be the fun part of the marketing conversation. Is that all of these deals like at least brooklyn mitchell would stay new york mitchell would stay on and look he's got the player option a third year from now. So you know. Sometimes
well. Mitchell, Ickes is expiring and maybe cleveland's like you guys, are making too big of a deal out of this. We still have and are under contract for next year, miami he would likely stay at. He seems to be that he would be into that. New Orleans always has to worry about this stuff, like CJ's fine in new orleans
he daylight robbery, he disdain is probably find in the world's. If I'm
giving you dyson and seizure- and I would be tempted to say yes because to the original next point, even if it's not a perfect fit, does it
these are often of ceiling in a plant series. Well, with actual does beyond see, J beyond Daniels,
point, but I've I'm giving you Daniels and see J yet again, three picks for me now, ok, so what happened?
see, J and Daniels and
give you that I'll give you my twenty four.
Stop Gimme. That lakers pick, I feel like
Personally, I have too much invested in Daniels, but this is the whole point. If you have all
step. You have always players who drafted so well. You still have a long on somebody who still have not ie. You know you have heard jones, you have the wings they can cover in the wings of ETA cover defensively, foresee J, so they can certainly cover fur for data.
mitchell. Ah I'd be really tempted.
Do it, but I'd have to hear from mission be like
Can you be into this four for this year? And next can you be into? It is correct as a candidate.
Can I take up it s even beyond that? I kind of like the calves bore receives aid, those data that would vigil
I don't know that I love the sea J garland thing you just got some
dollar, and they were. There are pretty small where you live.
knows I would love to see him out to my ear.
Your team down. The road is garland Daniels's, your back or which makes way more sense. In my head, you know, but I always I wanna see Daniels play
and you're. Gonna is another thing to add that to that too, and like this isn't a pseudo knock on on mitchell at all, it's more about who see J, as is the guy in the fact,
is bought in new orleans and it's been so consent.
Then you know other than that stretch last year. You know when they were healthy and everything looked really good and you're like dude. This teena, like I thought they were
the same league. At one point, I feel like theirs,
the real value to see J that maybe we don't understand as much from the outside with arms and often it I yeah
there's a lot of bullshit you deal with, and it's important to have that adult. It's like the commonly thing from Minnesota
yeah. I got all these other personalities. Couple young dude, you know go bears own battles, and so you ve got just a very calming. Presents who's been through a lot of stuff.
Understands what it's like to be. A veteran would mitchell. Be that even though I would you know had had there's no conversation about siege ever sit on the mitchell.
that's breaking news. I just became enamored in my head about a crunch time with Mitchell.
And Zion, in shape and brandon ingram out there. At the same time, just with that would look like. I do have an announcement, though that is. This is now the eighth straight season that I've made up a fake trade with cj call a minute which broke my own personal record,
graduated to make? Congratulations to him. If you really have separate special,
I just figured it out every year how to work them into a into a trade. So there you go and alright so out of all those teams. What's your favorite? What's your favorite mitchell fit brooklyn.
No because it's just him, there was nothing necessarily.
I look I know bridges is better. They have a class and decision to make here you're like a care. What are we really want to pay the sky? The? U want to lend the next, then it sounds like you're ready for the next stage is say fuck it I am. I am, and I know it's not perfect, and I know it means sacrifice from players that are usually it's or best not
Surely sacrificing a ton but he'll having one guy initiate that taken role,
over and over again that size for brunson is crazy, is against more intense defence and in the play us is a bit of a concern, but look I got cleveland because they had these.
Two on ball, guys in garland and in mitchell, would work against new york and then that didn't work, but I also think it gets back to kind of the stuff that we were in at least
theory, with the mostly alan stuff mean like will that work in today's game.
I don't want your leg
Forty eight expiring argued bear it.
and the next I bother on first. Twenty four through thirty, so what three of those.
I would I would build it around our J R, J
because you have to quickly look. They have to make a hearten decision. Not only have right, but they ve got its pay him quickly, research,
Free agent, solar man, another match whatever, without with quickly right, but they ve been
It's done a really good job here. In always laura's like picking especially picnic.
But later and just finding guys in its you times of crimes.
even mcbride, leave your heart and even change. So like the discarding you to death, but it's
bunch of smaller players
It would be like you know what we've done a really good job. Let's just start moving some of these pieces of it means it's two picks. I don't think it's three picks. I think the price has gone from three to two picks, but it also depends on the specs
All of these picks it and moving around bill again here
look at him and you bringing up the pretensions protection a lot. It's actually
wait. So I'm gonna end up like a twenty two, twenty five and twenty seven rightly fate.
what happened all eyes were now became to second rounders, but guess not as I liked it better. When it just said. I had seven first coming in
I didn't realize that six of we're gonna be in the twenties right. I think that's
we discover, as we actually get closer, these picks being
Being carried over so yeah more and the next thing, it sounds like you like the brooklyn thing in starting over with bridges and mitchell, because they have no buzz
so you would save. If your leg is. What's the peace, though that matches RG,
There is even is flawed or day our J may be as in the guy, and maybe I kind of like I'm still.
a little bit too. I'm with you. I did it. I dont know what player peace matches our J and then it becomes a dueling pick thing and is the third first. Would protections trump, the two first, with with a worse player,
so. You're gonna began came johnson camp thomas combo, for you prospects
I'm not gonna, I'm not in the camp. Thomas business get the key.
Johnson business, I'm not the kansas.
so you're number, one guy that you thought was gonna get traded was mitchell. Mine is designed to marry.
I think that a I think they keep tray on. I just think there to fight it,
a young as the house that they ve been re having for five years, and now they just can't sell it. They just gotta leg. We, this ass might be nice day. We can't can't we can't get out of this. We just gotta. Do it
the this murray young thing doesn't work day, they gave it a whirl. I was
in on it this year. I thought I liked the atlanta over, which I think was forty two. I thought quince data was going to maxim, Stephanie watch it and they're just defensively. It's just a no go and marie
the point guard, I don't! I don't think you can play off the ball and they d have to move em. So my favorite murray trade buckle up. I liked the rockets.
and I think that I think they're too young at the jailing range bar spots, but I'd therein these games,
they're just either to an expanse, and I just kept thinking like
The format lead and I can get jailing green and I can get all depots expiring.
And throw me the brooklyn twenty twenty four first that you have in I'll give you
shot they murray and now you're. Putting
shouted murray and that jail greenspan narratives they, whether to small again he was just respond atlanta. Now you have, then we in the shop
merger backward. I just like the fit more than with the have now
and I still really like him- I I think I am.
The idea of having two ball handlers was wish,
girl in the got sums
eyes on the wings and I just think they'd be better and if I'm atlanta children's twenty one years old and if I could turn
for it to him in a pic legacy
really good high end, a first round pick that broken pickled be top fifteen unless they trade for mitchell kind of like it.
Is this about jailing green out, used Houston's, closing group yeah, which the other move
It could make is just not have jailing green. The closer group.
I wonder how a maze areas in indonesia- and you know that terrorism is better for this close group in jail and green, as we just have to admit it.
because jailing green like I'll look at it and I was going to the angel russia stop as he's gonna, come up at some point today, where
you're, like man d'angelo Russell, like twenty shots game for the warriors when he was there like what world
would any team be like hey? We want you taking twenty shots and for as bad as houston was it wasn't the end of the world. The Jalen green took eighteen, but I dunno, if he's going to be eighteen or nineteen, shot at a game guy, and you know the best.
Versions of green. Are these insane drives? He gets by everybody, he hangs near. He does this thing where he kind of likes to float to his left and then try to
underneath you and when it works. It looks like one of the best drives in the league and when it does and we're like what did you think was going to happen when you took off. Ah, I still hold out some hope for Jabari,
you know. Maybe he's never going to initiate enough stuff on the ball, but I note he competes. I know he defends the shooting numbers have been better this year I like to buy, but you know, shit
goons development and then all of green shots, not all of but a chunk of green shots, going eventually going to brooks
If the ball isn't in NJ, when green's hands, where is he and Kevin Porter Jr is going back and forth the whole time or everybody just watches and jabari smiths like.
Am I ever gonna get the ball. I think it was kind of cool,
shin goon, I've seen times this year where he gets the ball deep and last year he would have thrown it back out to the guards and now he's kind of like nope. I might actually be the best player on the team to keep going with it and your point with tar ethan. If you already have
on ball. Stuff was badly in brooks, like I think, green gets lost because you just as damsel the the way you did last year
I hope all the stats are down him and his forty percent field goals. Thirty three percent three point and his he has these get he'll have like a two for twelve, a three for fourteen
There's the ball seems to find him in these crunched. I moments and I just think he needs to be done
that good team, or he could make his mistakes and figure out. Who is this seems almost like too good for him
twenty one years old. You know our that's why I was thinking I could. Could it be charlotte? Could it be a trade like this but
like where he goes atlanteans next to tray and maybe figures it out there. But I like
Maria, that's the that team. It is there better Murray home. They you have. I don't I don't know
Lakers could like the lakers, are going to have anything yeah. It's like they're, twenty, nine first,
How to talk in twenty nine years like say that again, Allah, yet hoods fino you now,
I'm gonna gotten over years. Unless you want to get some kind of real conversation,
eating murray
that would eliminate the jail and d'angelo Russell
part of it? You know, gave Vincent hasn't played upon the season, which it was probably part of the hope of having gave vincent take some of them
responsibility away from Russell when these games start to matter a little bit but-
think murray is able to defer enough he's had to figure
with trade and though they stagger them still. Ah, I always thought
I just don't know that the lakers are going to have the assets, but I think he's somebody there that his overall game is solid enough, that he would find a way to fit in as opposed to getting in
You guys were, I think, Russell gets in the way. Would you think necks adage at cheaper mitchell price?
then you just go and you get the jean de berry. Instead,
be open to it, but I don't know that land is going to do that with a team is caught up in front of them in the east, like what are you gonna get back? That makes you think you're better than
of your lana. Like I like how you're even discussing the jailing green thing, I know you're gonna get a tunnel shit for it like as if ok, you just pick houston- and you know this guy because top three in the draft you just might I've been policeman's. I I I I think if they improve that spot, I think they have a chance to be. You know the tops
esteem in the west. They can't went on the road, but therein these close games, where you know you it's I it seems like their games, come down to three plays. Sometimes I can't believe how good they are defensive.
I'm in asia? Stop is incredible, and emu is probably the perfect group for this first reformer diver this group, but ill. So this is why you over pavement lateness. Why overpay brooks facilities
in your free agency money anyway- it's really get. I briefly really think this is the best version we've seen em. It's still a massive contracted
what you have to pay of yours. You sign you're, not be good,
I will repay you because we need to overcome
to get you to say yes to us, so I'm so impressed with.
In and I'm impressed with light away. They ve got that filagreed
brought up Ayman Thompson, yet in theirs times were physically. He looks like the most gifted player on the floor, the whole time so that open up some for him,
Houston, probably needs some kind of stretch power for
more so than they need a disease,
they murray, yet de
would be somebody were you. You go away,
What I know exactly what I'm getting but like. I have a chaidh one that stupid because
The default rule is that no teams are ever trading. These guys, like the pistons, can actually trade, Kate, Cunningham schuster
It's maybe not as much because they turn things around in there, not the nightly disaster. The pistons are, but I think front offices are scared.
to be like the very early in the day. I want them right from a top three pick. That was this young and we we just moved on, but
I think that the green stop it be nice if it looks a little bit better. The same can be said for king dismayed.
career, hopkins,
one at home and two and ten on the road which is really bizarre, lay dead.
start like at the end of the night tonight is, I think, Mary.
Somewhere minette?
Orlando conversation, we could probably have here where you know or late. I've got some pigs as substantial. They have contracts that are pretty easy to trade. They could take a contract
at an orlando. Sixteen and nine nah, I'm not sure I'd mess mess with them. Yet I think they're in a bad situation with faults who just seems like as these just not getting better
and and blacks a rookie, and it's going to be awhile for him, so over and over again that is close with his anthony and suggs. Basically, as as their crunch time,
Super murray there, any kind of fits with the identity that thing that there, but I don't know, thou be them.
that, involves a farmer land on that really.
And they would you do anything of your land, I'm just kind of adjoin the season, and then I'm gonna figured out the summer. No, I would,
She'd be more motivated you something now, because I'm real are paying pal yeah academic.
Palo and in bognor
yeah. This is what you want to do as you want to look at your schedule, payments here and be like alright, let's go out and sign somebody after their two most expensive players to the magic or isaac and fultz and they're, not even ridiculous contract.
I guess, absurd when you look at their salary sheet, the top two guys
seventeen million men there, sometimes
I like how how many guys, who have to go through before I get to seventeen right here, and there
a lot of different trades bewildered. You fear, china gets
if orlando, who to be clear, I'm just getting klay thompson. What what position is that, like a shooter, anthony, blacks, look nice but you're right like if they're the fourth best team in the east and expect to like play in the playoffs like that's that can't be what it is and foltz is really good for them, but I think foltz, it kind of, and so few people actually were watching magic games
Yes, he noticed like this guy's. Actually pretty good, but suggs has been awesome for him, but he's not a point guard, but I dunno. They need a point guard, because palos should have the ball in his hands a ton and and fronds
should be initiating his own stuff off the screens because he so good at it. Aren't you got a juncture. I just thought that was a pretty sobering back to back in Boston, another forth in the east.
but we ve seen teams over achieve in the first twenty five thirty games weathered schedule.
I just started off rough or some other teams were so starters, but the last by seventeen and seventeen in Boston and it just looked like teams- are on different levels like they had in a playoff series that have no chance
whether they care or I lingo g for them. But
I think besides really tough to deal with, but I mean that
canada scattering forum I mean if he wants to be tough, that's great, I'm not criticising it at all, but
Oh dear van leap point earlier: leg of you know: you're, not gonna resigning. Doesn't it make sense like who are you? I choose.
run of other than there are not good,
I have already multiple toronto trades, but
the guy. Besides the guy who dated sports austria,
cover model like seven years ago and now it
as the bars he thanks. Oh that's, not yours,
I was gonna say shot out, but is not like that. Raptors do. Does nineteen title when he's not like her
national conference, gm guys, like you know, we're gonna do without it.
A trade fred baby. We're just gonna lose, but I can't get any
for him because outlets- I I would a title three or four years ago, so I just don't this team.
They ve been unhappy for three years. They changed the coach, they ended up. You know they lose the nurse who has been,
maison philly, tavern
in an open sea outcome, both of them are fridge and set in the air.
doesn't seem to have a plan for anything and then
and everyone else in the league is like gamma psi. He just he does his own thing. I mean I kind of respect it, which is why I brought it up, but it just feels like he feels no pressure at all because of that title. That's what it feels like
It's not you know. Everybody's got a scouting report on
on how this gm likes to do this. This gm likes to do that
I mean oji and adobe. I don't know when he'll be inducted into the hall of fame for the number
trade, rumours that music. While you know when you first were offered up for the rant. That's we knew this guy given special and then in a week.
we turned down this trade for four oji. If they knew
I know that he likes toronto and wants to stay there and the agents have kind of gotten on the same page as far as like hey. This is how much it's going to cost, but I don't know what you do.
picking up would be one thing of toronto, competitive, theirs.
In toronto knights, were I go: are they up fifteen or down? Fifty? No, like
but I mean biology by ring Bart its barnes team, it you know whatever
slippage was in his second ear tag. Is that a day he's back and beyond
I loved him coming in and then his second years like. Maybe he just going to be kind of a glue guy who's really skilled and does all these great things and plays defense? He gets all these different players. He's he's awesome, so you you'd think you'd want to keep
the thing around him. You know I would rather invest in o g, despite some of the health stuff in the beginning, that I would see awesome cause. The alchemist is such a diminished version of who he is
bet, you know if you go over his numbers like there's some stuff that will tell you. This is the worst he's been in five years now granted. That's because a handful of his shots are going to barnes as he takes off and oji gets more comfortable, but even with van Vliet gone, she occam's attempts have gone down and he
I could have this totally wrong. I don't have any info on it at all, but I dont.
does he want to be there like? I know he seemed to get like those moments worries unhappy with nurse, but I dont
I don't know what you're hanging onto by just going to free
agency with this group and then wondering if you're going to resign your own guys or maybe nobody wants to pay seok m the amount of money that he's going to have to make, despite the fact that, like I think, I've had two years
we're doing our all nba, it's like Nancy outcomes like the sixteenth and seventeenth guy. So that's pretty
clearly: there are somewhere between sixty nine password that three points
and got worse every year and now he's a liability and that's if you're trying to change into a contender. That's the first,
They're going to look at like I had a warriors trade a couple of weeks ago, where it was wiggins and commingle for seok, which are that made sense, because I think the wears need to get bigger
But then you can have the outcome in dray mind as to your father,
guys neither make a three. I just want to point out an obi fifteen points, a game for review
It's a game. Three two point: five assists again and sheets thirty, seven percent from three: you have to be the greatest defender of all time too, to command some of the prices that we ve heard from
this guy's because, basically you know our theories always been pretty much. Anyone can score. Fifteen points, a game if they pay thirty five minutes and there are no medio retain so defensive. We he certainly
really good at it. I don't think he's life altering inside their defence united. I watch a team mike Minnesota. Could he played defence or on the medina edwards level of government hands behind him sure but
I don't know like that's why I thought, like oji fur r j bear, it seems like a fair trade may, because I don't know if I want to pay him. Thirty five million dollars a year he had
Section value on that is it oh geez like way better than argent, but he's not
just in our world like nobody gets talked about. Let's take, I would say
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it's so we did most likely trade guys my tattoo or marine and adobe.
You're a number one was bitch who's. Your number two ginger.
No, I mean this is going to be like sexy uncreative. I know you love like the crazy ones, but when we saw the contract extension energy angelo seventeen point three million this year with a player option at eighteen point. Seven
I don't know what the market was it just gonna felt like hey, will maybe over pay you but make that second year player option, but with the interest
meaning that you're gonna be making enough money that could be traded rat
like them. We said that in the mamma, when it happened, it was when it can figure contract extension. Yet so it's pretty simple
I know in the past. I dont know what the updated latest of it is that leubronn really exec with me, and then he added
thing into it and, like I know, be per cent our village no market for levine whatsoever, never underestimate the power of an agent to find a way to get this done. I know rich paul's, even
it's like hey. You know I have clients on all these teams. It doesn't mean that this is going to happen. I can't imagine that lebron with his basketball, I q is enjoyed the D'Angelo Russell experiment. I don't wanna hear about
if any of the raw numbers with him he shot it really well. This year, he's actually tenth in fourth quarter minutes on the lakers, which is a little unfair, because her trevino and gave vincent averaged out more but play less games,
let's say the angel rustles, eighth in fourth quarter, minutes on the lakers and your Panem this watching it live to the in. In turn, my game sit next to you and watching him fuck up these past.
It's like india, I've seen it enough for the years the t v, everybody knows, I'm not a fan, but then to watch it live or it's like. Do you have any intensity to you? Is there anything that's intense about like big possessions and big decisions, so on top of that he's been a net negative on defense, his entire career? If you look at the boxscore stuff, I think that might be the fit of like what I know
argos, hope you like. What's the asset that we get em, you never know that anybody's loved ruby, how chimera and theirs
so some restrictions on when levine could be trade because a ruse our track and that kind of stuff and when it clears, but I think that's the simple fit because I know in the past the did like living.
yeah. You know one thing I I notice I at the next game you'd, I just love watching reefs and I
I just think he's so underrated value me over and over again. I was going nuts that the spurs then get him I'll, never understand that for the rest of my life, but I think it's so important to watch him, especially in the half court, that you can run offense through him and he can create shots for himself or other people like a point guard, even those not, but he plays so well with those guys he's so inclusive that
they don't need. They don't need Russell. When you have leubronn- and you have reeves abandon these games right, you need just someone
who can play off or mo it trees.
with you the way you know, I don't think, there's a levy, market
forty and then it just keeps going up it's three years after this in the forties, the broad sack and care because he wants to win now and
his watch and when I watch last night were came. Reddish was blank crunch time for them exactly
better than cam radish he's just
they think you have no reason to worry about a little more. You can not legs.
Like we, I don't think allowed to say that cam reddish is better than zach levine
look at it doesn't care manner she just hands if the markets that depressed
and then you have the balls of actually won a bunch again
zero levine out, which is his own topic when I, which was the most predictable thing of exit the cubby white part, I guess was predictable that he turned into what is termed a new. But yet I had a couple: sack of trades
and their basically just salary dumps like one of them was him going into trade right in the end,
and those who I go
we'll get a mighty morris?
and Joe Harris and then Isaiah Stuart, goes to ok, see.
In chicago gets uzbek dang and that's basically way get results.
Of these I had another one. Where's cargo gets gourd day worded terrors year and charlotte gets.
Levine alonzo ball? They could read at the bar brothers and lines, as god
a car a year laughed heyward that expiring regime is having a good year. I don't
charlotte would do that just every
It's amazing. How can Zack will we not have a home? I just go through the teams and ask yourself whose trading for a guy- that's averaging forty, the sheer scale three years left after that and his team
immediately played better as soon as I got her, not to mention the eye test, he looked miserable areas by defence, so this to me feels like a classic leubronn salvage. I'm with you like this is like the broad rejuvenated. Jefferson
J Smith was basically added added the wig and
I figured out how to make him a guy who could play for three straight playoff series. I think he'll be able to figure it out with zach of in and if he doesn't he'll leave well.
Are you or I were talking last night, it's like well, you know normally the passes like hey trade for this guy and then it's like it doesn't work, and I kind of agree with the lesson phone call, but I mean how many more years as he had left that he would want leave like do you think, there's another chapter to lebron being like able to chase a ring somewhere else and leave los angeles, where it's clear that this is a place he wants to be. I dunno. I think
I agree with you last night on the phone them when I thought about it. This morning the drift into bronze going ahead
does he have one more I'm out of here like Anthony Davis, gets hurt, the trade doesn't work that man he's like hey. Let's go plated denver. I love skin
but do you as there are? No, I think, he's got.
each year, and they ve got Davis the extension and
The only reason this day next year would be his sons,
be a senior in high school right. So maybe you could say
he's definitely got one more laker year. I'll pay this from watch him in person a couple times. It feels like he's, got like three four years left. This is turned into.
Greater quarterback thing. I, if you told me you gotta, played so too does twenty seven. I believe it
I have no counter. Yeah nice guy, it's great felix fast, is explosive. I was telling you less than other found. It was so funny to watch him, a defence where he just as conserving mac, so easy
It does move on defects. You like go to a laker game and I'm not even criticizing monnet. He just figures out the spots to stand where he could basically just rest and which guys that he could just play off of and not have to move and all he's doing is saving his energy for the other side or for click. Quick explosive stuff
it's smart, it's what he should do. I think you play for another couple of years and if he feels like he can't win a title with this team he's going to move on, he wants more rings. That's going to determine everything it's not about.
like. Oh, I want to go down as one of the great lakes see once championships. That's it you're right!
bout, how he finds his spots, which is a compliment to him. The only time it bothers me is that
I don't want you looking at your teammates forbad defensive rotation. When you were not rotation, they that's
I was worried, buy a bother me when he was awesome and he did it riots, and
I have no issue with everything you pointed out. This house knows and less to less. I do like we had. Hardly stein is in us as an assignment is like a subject like. If you can,
william further away. I'm not gonna. Do this.
may have been. Why aren't you had a tunnel rebounds, but I'm
I am amazed at the the
stretch were in the beginning of the year. I thought like oh he's me he might. This might be the first time we start to see some of those bad physical nights. Now he's usually due to miss about twenty plus side to side step felt like it was a little sloppy the first month, though, that he could still go up and down yeah, but going left right trying to stay in front
as was the first time you started local at all, but I think lately is a great deal that speed
move that he had late in the fourth quarter. Add the baseline, where he just went on my word that come from I done was years like a classic le brad story.
This is why, when everybody talks about a smart is a guy, we were watching it and laughing as it was happening. David jump off, and I forget her. The jump out was
was clear: the lakers are gonna win and they were all lined up and then the browser
As I know, no, you go there. You go there and he's like basically arranging the jump off any ends up. It's on the next side. Next basket he's in the circle toward made core and he puts Davis closer the basket the tipp caused Davis in the branches fuckin jets,
in Davis gets it and just whips it in lebron gets layup, but lebron figured it out like twenty five seconds before the jump on. I was like this is why he's going to play to his forty five accused,
smarter than everybody the knicks said
idea. He was gonna, do it, but it's just these little.
Images that he has the iq and then the fact that when he goes to the basket, he's bouncing off do
in if doesn't go in they're going to cough focuses the brown james. He just he has all these edges that he just uses game the game. It's really impressive
yeah. The fact that the knicks allow themselves to line up that poorly on that big of a possession at a center jump where you already know like there's a gap for both teams because of the math of the other eight players, but the gap for the other team can't be towards their basket.
it was as solaris till they were
That gets almost destroyed, watch a finnish die now, but to finish the le braun part of it, like I expected the bad dirk year by now for its a you're still playing, but now it's over physically, and
whenever that is going to happen, because I think he's gonna have a really hard time, not playing like everybody. When there are great
said he I don't wanna play when I'm any vert diminish version of myself. He'll get us what
guys all say until you're, the diminished version you start line in the mirror and then once you accepted,
would you like you know what this is still fund travel in arms?
in this light it whenever leubronn is playing it's going to be a big deal
and that's gonna, be a hard thing for anyone to walk away from that kind of attention. For these little girl. I shouldn't wash away like where it what it would be walking away from that substance,
I'm just saying, like the
Here's that I thought like hey. It's still kind of fun he's around in the restricting the minutes, but I mean it's over it's over. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet. So that means that your rights, if he wants to have those seasons, those seasons might be two years from now tat. They could just go.
he is bill. I really like what minnesota's doing I'm just gonna joined the timber wolves.
You didn't come on balance. I dont know. I think you once rings. I don't know if you would do it the picking lemmings. Unless it's you know, but the back to something that
always been a a big part of some in this? Isn't a secret like does a team go, I do a solid, but again that
the team. That would do that would be a team that hasn't is just lukewarm.
ok, we will bring you that's on it. Yeah like an array of six or seven zero, one thing at what they I was thinking about them compared to bear,
They cause Brady's, the other one that it just kept going way longer than we expected.
Brady had a couple tricks said he would play. Were here hugest he wouldn t
You could try never to take bigots, he would always just,
get rid of the ball a second early and he didn't care for the a complete if he didn't like the play or the way was unfolding of just dump the ball, which is lebron equivalent of I'm just not going to play that much defense tonight and I'm going to save I'm going to pick my spots, the differences. I think why Brady stop playing ultimately was. He was still taking big hits re, which
Forty five will in fact this man I had barely get out of bed the next day the bran still is physically dominant compared to these,
Their deeds are keys, laying out their heads his eyes on the second offensive, where four borne out offers were so I think it's gonna keep going right. Let's take a bite,
it, then we gotta talk about. Ok, see alright, ok, see, I think, can actually make the files if they make a cup move.
and they have just and our model of picks. They have so many pack, some that have you to read you out them, but it sleaze dumping. They have great houston pigs, they have great cooper pigs, they have their own packs, it just keeps going to go in and go in there.
Market in utah, my trademark law and stuff, that I don't know if I believe,
I don't know why they would. I dont really fully understand,
but there's been enough buzz about it, that I think we have to take it seriously to me he was a discount dirk last year
he's on a good contract. He still pretty young is in his bed. Twenties he's the perfect god add to this ok, see team because he's got size
shooting. I could just see him with the nucleus they have and they have taken. Trade Burton's is expiring poker.
Ooh who's, my dang, the tray man. They could put it there if they wanted. They have a pick swap with utah that they could just cancel and they have Houston top one through four protected and twenty four and twenty six they have clippers.
Unprotected fires like they could just go all in and get him an olynyk and if they want to throw in jordan, clarkson will take him to, and if you were okay see, is that the guy you would target
definitely take him if he's available. I dont know why he'd be available
He knew any he six. He.
yeah. He had a weird start to his career. You know it just didn't really click. There were some times even in cleveland. Where I was like. I you know Antony he's going to be in a league, but I dunno then then he turns into an all star last season and whether I believe him
you know I got the interview. Most are weakened in person, yet
was telling me how much he loved it. You know you after a kind of it. The ups and downs of the whole thing
Ah, he said recently in an interview. He wants to stay there and a lot of people say just
feels like when he sang it with everything that has gone through he's like we love it here when he started about his family, the whole deal so one of my biggest pet p.
These are just one of the things they get the most annoyed about when Jim started by rebuilding its like. So I'm not allowed to have any good players
like everybody has to soften everybody, has to be nineteen like it doesn't make any sense
eventually have to pay some people. If marketing is happy and wants to sign an extension in utah.
and I'm u talk. I dont need more firsts
suddenly code? I wouldn't traveller yell him and
so together? I like them. I liked the combo.
But that's not anyway there. It's a! U tossing name me, the top, fifty players that want to play in Utah how long's that list it and it's not for everybody,
I like the place, but of markets like no. I want to do an extension and on top of all the other,
people they're not going to pay other than this john Collins disaster in chinese available. Shockingly I just I look man. I wouldn't
not be in a weather was three first last year. No, it has to be five first or has to do all these things. I don't like. Have you Utah? You need even more first that you can't trade for the next superstar that doesn't want to stay there. Marketing is good enough that he wants to stay. I have no interest in trading him. If I'm anger, static.
My next guy for them would have been shared alan, but cleveland doesn't have their packs. If Cleveland had their pick. This share. You could talk yourself into outlets,
got it mobas our garlands out. Will trade Mitchell will get a bunch of will trade.
Shared out will get more staff and shared out makes a ton of sense for ok, see because that's that's the big body, but I don't think they can get em. There's window carter possum,
It is with them, because I think orlando has proven they don't necessarily need one
well carter with the with the team they have that they can kind of cheat around it and maybe they could get some assets. Are you or get some assets that they can use for a different trade, his contracts? Only thirteen point: five,
and then that the one that I like the most in this is the guy, like four subjects, I say stuart on the pistons
I think, could have a real moment on a contender, a big still big stew. First of all, I think, is good. I think he's like if you just the celtics, have a a trade exception spot that I think he could fit in, but it's also poison pill guys, so I think it gets complicated. I actually think it'd be hard for them to trade, for him wouldn't be hard for oak ST to trade for him,
The best thing about that dude. Is he the number one I don't wanna fuck with that guy in the league, there any
and you would put over him James Johnson.
he's not remotely anymore. Now it and just get picked up. Oh he did you. I would not like to Johnson father
and so what I don't want to do is have you make a really good points and then,
What about this guy you're right? I you're right any, can shoe and its lead.
Is Detroit rostrums pleasantly hard are eager out. Yeah yeah, I ll,
I have one for you, though, what he would you do, Burton's, quick aside,
Burton's. Can you imagine the text read with poco in his buddies and Burton's gets minutes over him, both the pope.
Have would you do Burton's
I don't know. I were both trading sponging today, because I love when he gets the minutes in their eyes. I love doing his draft stuff.
at some point. You gotta give up something yeah, that's the thing.
You have all these pigs. Anyone taking all these guys. I think some people forget tray man's even on other thunder.
I didn't have a couple moments. Would you do Burton's, jane to the five year old, say of of their war? Chest picks like two good once it has to be the two best ones, but to decent ones for miles her.
That's interesting rising! I was sad. Eight when we're in vegas people seem to think in vienna was gonna, add like they were gonna,
I d go after it and obey your Paul george. If he somehow became avail board, really try to get like a better wing, but now
they ve gone the other way, maybe.
What are their reserves? Everything inside your lot, the pay
These are an awesome, halliburton story, math for starting to go off a little bit more there's theirs. I don't know if there's a completeness to
game that is going to continue because ethnic bathroom was really dynamic, like I'm, just gonna drive on you all night long, but I don't know
Everybody else felt like there are super involving had bought his hands. Turner has been added
trusted ceiling guy. For me where I was like what is already talked this guy up all the time to like look, there's no market for him and now, when I watch him, I go, you have to find a way
Did he get some other kind of big body and turner's gonna pull one of the other teams to big of its minnesota, one big if its? If its of one big team in the play off because you have to go
Adam, like I think, turner's had this bit of resurgence and I always love that turner. Denver, matchup and you know, love is excessive here, but just how hard he played against yogesh, where the
No don't have anything there. So maybe it feels like it's too much. Burton's is involved because turner's at twenty million. I I spend way too much time trying to figure out turned to the western conference trades
I really don't think the patients would necessarily be blowing up any team that has any kind of chance gazette can't guard anybody south on the foot
of indiana? What the other way would you tread?
catherine in walker the rikiu doesn't play. It was like the eighth back in the draft for oji that too much it feels a little quicken. Walker from Houston
It's what you said Elizabeth like this guy- it's like I don't know he doesn't play said- play severe toronto. You could just fly
banning obey in it too.
Younger geyser about lottery picks. They actually feels like too much friend lobby
feels like a lot for him, but it's based on something we can't know like his oji reassigning interact.
No, if oh geez resigning, it's right, I'm a bill, I fought if I'm
I'm blindly making that off or choose me if toronto calls me and says: hey
do oji for math or walker.
you figure it out with oh geez guys and then you go caters. Oji have any interest in reassigning with the papers in the aid, including acts it out here
we like to see how plays out this summer. Man were, but were renting, then
Not even you, I'm not giving you math went straight up for him because at least mathesons under control and
I'm worried about where he's going to school years, thou o k c in the system
speak guys available than I realized, which is
The asean steward is such a good fit for them because she contacting the poison pill, they can figure it out like they can make it work with the contracts they have all these pack, so they, I think, he's worth at least the first look at him for that he's. I do
really the perfect guy for the celtics accused by number one. This is the guy was for the subjects because the it doesn't touch your top sex he's tough,
he's the kind of guy that, in a play, I've series was somebody close closely jason tatum in the basket. Support knee was out there, the guy wouldn't do it a second time.
and I think, ok, see, needs and toughness to. Thank you play for them. Other,
turner's a good one, jerry
down, as the only other one look at all these contracts that feels like he might be available.
Do what you do like a ma. Look
you'd have to whatever Oklahoma city scenario were coming to the table with here. It's
Imagine I thought you know it's a real pick, but I'm not gonna go. Who I wanted to be this pick this year, top whatever costs? Would you get in the nick clegg
in business. If you were the thunder
you like hey. Now we have a less for an hour in size. I need cosette,
I have a skinny guy and shit.
But I know somebody that leg or were playing the worlds in it in a plan.
it is, and we literally can't guard bounciness, because we don't have somebody on our roster who's big enough to to battle him, I gotta say it comrade have to turn on the tic tac camera. If you're, okay see what you think about kicking the tires on draymond.
And he fits. He fits the profile of the guys day. Life like somebody with the ball in their hands. It can make decisions can drive him into shooting par, even though his shooting numbers this year good. I dunno that any of us necessarily think that number from three point is real. Ah, I might be, I may be willing to
that I like a month from now now golden state. If it's not starting to look better- and I said
On my part on thursdays, though, filling the dream on staff connection and the stuff he does for staff offensive is pretty special.
But another and gone stages may be. There may be other stuff that he's done, that we don't even know about, and they just might be ready to move on. But I thought that'd be an interesting gamble for okay, say to just say: fuck: it where's, the
because I think this is why we keep leaning on small genk as it's not gonna, be giddy at six and a half million.
Is that good machines pretty low still so that you can do it Burton's and one other contract twenty first one hour, glass at a whole, go in your good! Yes, a black like but Burton's in poker.
Why so you just goin, you just go and hey we're gonna get you picks out of this matter.
Salaries and answered picks out to be minus picks now
You could also say would throw in dang stuff what to do.
that's the thing I don't know and- and I guess we'll know in three weeks when drama comes back to from wherever the hell he went. I have one really fun trade. Who did we talk about draymond, green straight up for Jared Allen, just a straight up. We just did. I guess now is the first on the pod. Just straight up. Just fucking take raymond Donovan Mitchell stays in cleaver
When Jared Allen subsides with golden state, just a straight up trade, I was trying to think who would say no to that and I took awhile. I don't even know I think golden state just because of the curry piece, I don't think curry
dream traded but ass. I do now.
And then dray mind so off. There's like that calves team has no identity and no toughness, and could he give them the toughness in the ways the worst way to do this part would be,
Are you just said? I know that wouldn't happen for all these different reasons, so I don't want to do that to you, but give me the cleveland motivation.
We don't want to trade measure, we don't like the offers out there. We are still these two planting.
We have really get our fence. We were good last year dream on next
mobile makes more sense to our next moby weed out
defence of identity and a leader we didn't have that before.
The count or be why the fuck luge aid for J, mind he's been looks like he's losing his mind, they are strong
our strong counter. Would you do what would you do some version of Burton's, just as we keep landing on him of the seventeen million salary, the sheer they gave them five hundred pay extra, so they could trade em right a deadline, so we know their trading, and so would you do?
that, if your lan it would you do that with arthur is their pick package there? There would make sense for you to move off capella, even though you probably like you're a congou capella pairing like where the problem is we're taking pieces away from teams that may not look great but
They may not be in the business of being the artificial cool. Now now we have an issue with our big rotation. Why
when the thunder this paper. Would you
Or pay a little for a congo if you're going to grab an atlanta guy, because he makes more sense to me if I'm okay say like hey, I know you're offering us cappella, but let's talk about the other guy. What's it going to take,
because they could go a hundred thirty cents on the dollar for anyone they want, but that's the type a guy they need is him. You know they need size, shop, lacking
I'm just thinking like I'm in the west. I might have five minutes.
And a series I might have to buy denver. I might add that play
friggin new orleans with units like I need? I need size and can't be chat hungry and that's too much to ask. I don't want to put three thousand minutes
at home and bang bodies with everybody, it's crazy, so they have to get somebody. I'm gonna give you my favorite dumb trade, the sobs allowed issues. For me the next get bogged down in which, from the trade in other sheer the trick adds Doug mcdermott in Chechnya has been from san Antonio. The next cancel the protected pick their retreat and they give them down.
since twenty twenty four first, so that they basically get to pigs for bogdanov, which saint Antonia gets. Evan Fournier and killing haze. Two french guys for webby.
And a little killion haze resurgence. I had seen the desperately needs, appoint guard and now Webby has french guys to hang out with.
I'm ready my belly right now
Napoleon right now fascinating, but you gotta get which napoleon book.
The napoleon book need napoleon bulkier bow a interposed pages into it and was biggest highlight so far. He's
yet allow heartbreak earlier on with the ladys, and he said that love is the
distraction of the warrior, which I related to preach enough for a while. They find this guy gets it.
What's your what's your iconic phrase, I'd rather be.
I'd rather die rather may lay down yeah, that's pretty much like Van Van
was with me at my house when I set it in a dislike quiet for five minutes.
and it was like my at over- he was a man. What you just said, fuck and spoke to me.
Napoleon. He would you'd send the
He's telegrams on his way home from whatever battle on tell them.
I'm gonna be home in two weeks. Dont bathes three days ago
was his is a big knife bather now he was, he was a fan of unnatural musk
louder, surrounding the outer odor fiend in this book. It says its three days for real
It's ok for any two weeks is a long time, especially for those who know that era
yeah you got worked. His is first wife just cheated on him all the time and she he barely didn't. Smilingly portraits cause. Her teeth were completely black from shut sucking on sugar cane and one of them.
the territories in the west indies solely on and have crest white stripes back then read not great. Shoppers apparently
we are wholly was all energy still gm, so some order something a great book. It's its awesome. You know it, sir. I believe it's a fair account of.
A you know, military genius in a complicated man and at times a a tyrant
top. As regards the napoleon complex.
Ah, I haven't finished yet knowledge about what are you doing
So let's go over the french revolution trade that you have there
that's said I just I'm getting Evan forty is expiring. Killing is on the spurs, no surprise. I really hope disperse trade for some sort of point guard and I dont know
what the fuck they're doing this year. I will never understand the so hard thing they finally kind of give up on it. I dont
I understand why they're so happy,
we just during my web- is first season and putting on the word spots with prayers. You don't really seem to make him
better, and I don't there's lots of point guards out there that can get anybody they can free can get Monte morris from Detroit like just go, get more point guards and put the guy in a position to succeed. I think it's
weird, and I really the pop thing bit bowed check. Take so much shit,
I mean there's waymore kind of stuff, whispering about what the fuck is pop. Doing like an mba circle site.
I think he's had a really strange couple seasons at that grabbing. The mike was super where during the choir game- and I think thinking so- I could play point- guard was just
gillis. I didn't understand, understand at all and I don't think they put webby in a position to succeed the season. I loved the experiment, because I like so hand so much that I even entreated out there's nothing that I've been.
We're in favor of that, doesn't make any sense in reason and be a history like I was, or you are right about that- not making sense part right, but what I want
I didn't understand and look her ala bob who I have a ton of respect, for you know, kao see who does a great job in august of like when I was like. What's the point of this like I tweeted it out, and they both kind of like KFC disagreed me that her Al Bab disagree me and
look we all understand that they don't want to plan on winning games, but you didn't need to play so Hannah point guard to to lose games. You are going to lose games already, so
that too much that part of it. Then it was like a well. You know which raymond in I saw law
This too will dream on. No, he was he was this multi talented guy had like dream on ten times the past or saw him was when he was in college, so deaf to ask so
and then become the sky that understood this stuff. It maybe there's just so many bad possessions and I think, despite it being good natured in trying to expand,
the palate for so hand here it also meant the other four guys were miserable, a lot of those possessions. Does you can get an entry pass?
he pick up his durable wait. You early, he would lose stuff in trance
She could see, was starting to think when so hands best ability is just to go out. There are signatories and think hate just go check in the game and regret
and that's you so hand is even if it was cool that there was the ceiling that is we make. I I like I'd want him on my team, like he, you know we go and talk about. Some of these guys would get harm like Evan.
The third teams should still want Evan mobile, but yes ceiling,
We also need to be addressed on him, so hence the same exact guy, but I think your boy,
dismissive of how just the game work
and if you're, one of the other four guys, you could even see it with the cell, where it's like dude, I'm not getting the ball back to you, because you're just going to clog us up, unlike now,
know where you're going or make the wrong pass and n o look bait. They find the gonna pull
we're gonna would maybe it'll look if you want to do it. Why can you do with the second unit on one of the second unit things
shouldn't. Do it on any unit. He can't run fast breaks he cancer and ensure pass. He would pick up his dribble forty five feet from the basket.
need, a wasn't, a good enough shooter like there's no piece of him. That's a point guard and I just thought I was stupid.
I said before in another, previously
so to remain in may, when pga careless about deciding katy was
some for shooting guard and
now. This guy people realize is a shooting arts. I now actually none as he's afford
going to be the one of the greatest scoring forwards of all time you moron, what are you doing?
I hate is a pizza, I, like pizza, just thought that was stupid and here's my big trade, to throw you. This is my. This is my showstopper okay. Why can't the spurs trade for cade cunningham? They could give Detroit their first round pick, which will be a top five or top six pick this year, Toronto's first this year, which is top six protected, they could give him atlanta's twenty five first and throw in chicago's first that's protected for three years, starting in.
Twenty twenty five and ends up being top a protected and twenty seven like just say, fuck it web- is special like what what are we waiting for? This draft isn't even like that great, let's go get Kate Cunningham now to trade. Some mess, Cade stock is low. He's looked bad this year. Look good last night, but has look bad this year was to take hated trait. Just how you tell us what he wants can have a bunch of picks feel great about yourselves,
Start over a new gm start out. Sarah willow to watch as the kate thing didn't totally work as in year, three you're gonna have to pay him in two years. Jeremy. Nobody is let's go. Let's make a deal. I spent twenty minutes trying to find
Hey trades, knowing full well, was waste time because to our jailing, green,
I earlier you're, not training, k like it can be
before they could lose every game the rest of the year. The front office doesn't want to turn the fanbase and be like okay. You know we, we screwed it up with him and then have them. Go play
it's like you'd rather ride it out and havent, be really the front office items that if, if I'm firing everyone in the front office and I'm Tom gores them like that, didn't work, we had the first fifth, seventh and seventh picks in the draft, and we just
twenty three gets more gorgeous, you don't bend it. I mean he can't fire him. Somebody should at least suspend himself for giving Monty Williams the most money ever as a coach, because, first of all there was nothing
I told you, that money williamson becoming to fix it. It was arrested.
So bad it was gonna, be fixed in the first place of anything. You should be done on the cheap of the coach, but when rattled your team is going to be any good, you think they will bring.
This headliner, like the southern china, did it with dark in the past, but at least it was dark.
Money Williams, who didn't even get into the players with phoenix until Chris Paul got there. So
if there's marty stuff that we can go through and be like you're going to bring him in, who then decided to like look you're not going to be any
it's not killian haze is gonna, be running stuff, and then you had these lineups out their words darwin and then
they're big and then another non shooter may be Alec burks and kate. The cade numbers are scary, zach, kram of the ringer.
That breakdown him did a fascinating job
And it was also a pre heavy indictment of like hey. Why can't cage shoe? I don't believe in kenya.
Shoot again. He was forty per cent for up from three in college, he's not the most athletic guy, that's above the ring all rim and all that stuff. You know shade
isn't like the most dynamic finisher and all the stuff of apathetically. He just as every single angle down and although a fictional stop he's big enough to
pick and role where it should actually work and you'd like to have more spacing you
to have more shooting out there, instead of his collection centres that detroit fascinated with so there's some kate stuff that
definitely worried about, but I dont know
It's ever going to work out here. I don't think the pistons ever traveling franchises would trade somebody like this, but like I kept going like what would actually make sense for detroit to go back to the fanbase and
hey were already moving off of the number one pick from three years ago, so bear with us. I know I.
I know that that would happen, but I'm with you, I want to find another place form to see if he has a chance, because
out of its on him, but
I see a lot of possessions were he starts it and then everything
Screwed up money ends up at the ball again and your like. Ok, wool,
maybe he's just not good enough to bill you out all those possessions, but I don't know that he actually set up to succeed either. So I'm just not
I'm just not like is this. Who is actually to be because again
Peace in the ringers tellin. You like, hey the guy that his this profile, the first three seasons and credit. He missed a big chunk of one
Like those guys are not difference, makers yeah right, which is, would be the case for china so high and talk in san antonio
Some pigs with this is the nba. We grew up with in the night
If they were especially point guards, teams will give up on point guards. Think of all the point guards guy who just got traded, the is just got traded twice. Kenny Anderson got traded.
Stephon marbury got traded through bran and got traded same console, got traded twice like guys just bounced around at early parts of their career. It seems to get frustrated. They move all these different reasons for it, and now it's the opposite, everybody's just terrified to trade, a guy they drafted cause they don't they don't take shit. It seems like, but in this case I would think about it. I would just completely
start over pass the trait like a complete. I would get rid of everybody who is involved in any decisions for the last five years. Sorry guys, here's a watch, here's a little bonus, you're done And- and I would just start over and try to grab packs. I guess the only problem with grabbing picks in the two thousand and four draft.
as people don't really seem elect this draft. We don't like it now, but I'm telling you right now. Once we get to April you're going to see a bunch of titles like hey, you know what
like there's. Some talent in this yams guises happens
here but yeah there's no I mean Cade was,
of the celebrated topics like it wasn't just hey, he went want it's like
you're gonna get tape. It like you knew what you are getting when you got number one and I have to admit like I don't know if it's just wrong, like hey
Wasn't that good? Here's all the negatives now they're accentuated in this league. He can't seem to finish at the rim. I don't understand why he can't shoot any more, but just his
play making at that size. Like that's supposed to work, it's supposed to work, and now I'm not absolving him from all of it, but it felt, like
Following a message in the ivy minute stuff, the beginning and ass, the other thing to like it just is the forever
argument in the nba the foreign office is like. We need to get these guys men
it's and then you see it with chauncey billups, where, after two weeks of school Henderson, looking terrible and he's been better lately he's, like I'm gonna finish and malcolm brogdon cause I'm the coach, and I want to win tonight's game.
yeah and those two things are never perfectly align. They can say they are, but the not perfectly align, but when
pay money more than anyone. Who's ever been paid to be just the head coach and he decides.
wants to bring ivy along slowly. Instead of a figure out how the ivy kate thing is and get the reps you're gonna stink anyway, it's like no ominous still fuck around with his chilean haze thing. You're just go on, but if you're in the front office your, what what are we doing,
well, it's the it's a little like the patina thing, a million years ago, the celtics. When you give a coach that much money he thinks he can do whatever the fuck. He wants right. It's the it's the worst situation to be in an expensive coach with a bad team
we have seen this not work out over and over again in the bay history, the last guy and then we'll go, there's no chance.
Porter junior would be on the table in the next two months. Right I spent I came
with the porter junior to Detroit for cage reef, oh wow, it's so stupid cause! It's like
what detroit ever be like all right now sitting today is the first day of the rest of our lives. We have Michael Virginia, I mean he's is not that guy is he's complimentary,
to everything else. It's going to look at the numbers. Has that classic roster that, like the south except a couple years ago, words all top heavy giant salaries, and then
nah salaries right, there's no way for them to get anybody in the middle, but there is a way if they put porter and the table, which you could say. Well he's our fourth basque. I could return
I'm in a two pieces, three pieces guideline, we're at a lower. You think, as I was looking at the porter junior goin to they go hey, let's be
even better, like we're, not disrupting something that want to title we're we're, maybe pickin somebody, authors even better go ahead, signed
You made it indirectly. Wives are gonna portland.
Border junior, his salary cap figures at thirty three point. Thirty three point: four is got four years left
Poland's got that guard heavy roster. You know you. Could you
abroad than in their could you couldn't be a jeremy grant return? Could you put them
I don't think we want worry lard. I think the porter junior gordon thing works better than a grant. Gordon pairing right,
gonna be like receive simons entitled together once those guys can get you
in january by leg. It feels like a too for one where poor thing gets rid of a guard.
And gives them one of their swing, guys who complain, defence and then portland gets to take a real flyer and on porter here which they would now. If you end up with skewed in
you still have sharp and you have porter knew of eight. Like Adam get excited. I've got subsides, I at some length importer
he won the title last year? It's not like I'm sure he'd be sad to leave denver
but at the same time it's like all right. Why won a title? Now? Let me prove, I can be a guy said: there's something there, but I I do. I I'd be surprised if Denver did anything cause. I just think he
Why would you rate we thought they're gonna win the title I haven't seen anything this year. That makes me think, I'm worried about that yet, and so now I just wanted to have the I just wanted to talk it out. Simonds is better than porter. So why would you do that? If your portland right? First of all, I don't think they would do it anyway cause, I just don't think porters like yas, we got him, I mean that's why I was laughing at myself as I was trying to figure out some cade well, and he says that the though the back stuff- and I'm sure there are-
physicals that you can have with Henry back. Oh my god. Woe with that right, so I mean even bring that up until just now, so that as
like what you're doing, though no denver like is there.
A new ceiling for denver was some kind of peace there, but I think the health thing is probably where we should have started with Porter jr on top of what he is cause. He still, you know, he's an incredible shot maker. I think, he's still kind of a limited dude
Are you bringing in like hey this guy makes a ton of shots and he's huge, but you know I don't really know it is a good one. As a spare guard to trade either it's size,
men's or its broad and before its shore, broader or simons, and uncertainties at school, because it generated at members that doing if its broad than intolerable for porter they're not doing that their discontent with the dead said it. That's why? I don't think there's a trade there, but I think them the risk for denver is the league is so much better
and especially the top half of the wig, the the top seven eight teams are just better than there were last year and if you go back and think about the road that they had last year to win the title versus the road they're going to have this year, especially if they're not a top seed, and they don't have home court in a couple of rounds, it's just going to be harder for them
the league's fuckin loaded, you know, and in instead of miami waiting for them in the finals that it might be a boston team that has a ton of size. It could be affiliating that, as indeed been the best is played that
We'd have imagined filling out in these trade. They have somebody expiring. I don't even know
I don't. I don't even know what they need fired you.
Where where's the philly trade like I was trying to find a kelvin johnson from San antonio to fully trade, because you have, the cell seems like he's ahead.
when I was that I've which met so that I mean. Did you see that the plus minus, with the two minutes when between plays with basically
the other gay guys are like fucking great. I mean I know, they've had nice schedule. I know it's going to come back to earth a little bit but easy any tall, guys with three point. Shooting it's been like it's the fourth easiest
Nigel, so yeah solomon emanating stop look they're gonna be good there in the top three in the east, no one's dismissing of that, but this is run
somebody in particular. Unlike what do they want you to play, somebody I'll?
destroyed. I mean it's the sole lakers there that one night, so they know a ruling
ITALY's gonna, be like oh, you guys are just doing the bottom. Now, it's just the reality that every time I turn on philly right now make up thirty of twenty like I don't need to watch any more this game. I don't know where the pieces they coup and and is darryl keep the powder dry. There.
with this summer does not want to destroy their zap hasty, but they could. I mean you keep one but to come in thin, put them with morris.
You're at thirty million bucks already. If you are improved just at the mountain spot- and I like mountain, I think he's been good for them
That gets you thirty eight! You just have a lot of options when you look at their spot track. It's hilarious! It's like eighty eight expiring in around sir darras wet dream. So
I'm just not. I have a watch him enough in enough games against good teams to know what their missing said. Probably wait a month on that
I like melton young. Do I do.
Like people who look at harris's big expiring, but it's such a big number. It's just south of forty million. Ok, what like what.
What are you using that whose another ten guys that make more money than right like who costs that? Much that the other team wants to get off of
yeah, it's clay had some research is ok cool. Now we get clay aright, but why does philadelphia sunni, while golden state more inspiring to by sir.
nigel, don't like levine for them to you. I don't know, that's a good move for them at all.
And the natural move this summer. Thinking like
They're gonna above is expiring, naked, just get the being for the expiring, but I wouldn't do that. If, as I don't know,
I can overpay for an o g, but philly doesn't seem to have the player peace because anybody's it's good there. One gonna want to keep you know, but tombs, been nice, but there's no market for him or Covington
so who's my could you turn containing more than a couple packs and accuse bone. Just call it a day right, I'm worse! That's where the makes the most answered. He, I think everybody except cooler bali's available from washington. Maybe
that's where the danube gaffer oklahoma city thing comes in, maybe also maybe we should have led with that. Oh that's, a good one! I like them. I reseller you stood, then your pad three days a week. Monday was a friday. This is your tie. Bowl season football play, offs, basketball, trades napoleon you just you just pekin right now, basketballs taken it backs.
to napoleon. But I I promised to start watch more games in february when some dominant be doing napoleon and all napoleon pod over the break
we're. Having the author on. Let me give the author a shot out here on the podcast, because we ve been whereby your head- and you went that far yet- can have the actual author. How does this book
I think it's only like fire,
six years old,
Oh no! It is eight years old, ok,
by the way, the age rating on this one, eighteen and older. So, just
let you know we were teasing a bit. There can cause
is Andrew roberts, who apparently is also a member of parliament in england in a barren, so we're gonna
I have a brand new shirt on when we interview him for a recap of the book that again, it's gonna take a little bit more time to get through. I ever selah good to see thanks merry christmas.
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