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came out to help me with the million dollar packs and go through the week eleven games. We came up with some good ones and you know that should have been enough of packets, but now his words bring our jake, how man he did Andy. Ricky rankings and the ringer dot com, and we zip through all of them and talked about our favorite rookies things we liked guys who might move. This is a this, a very fun basketball, football podcast. I think we have to bring in our friends project. I waited despite the fact that it is almost as if by thursday The mother, dragons valley, ribbon seared diehard re withstand from the rear. We thought this ravens bengals game that happened tonight would be memorable and,

way became memorable, allowed always most about job, are going down at the amazon crew just being kind of like nonchalantly handling. The thing it's like the bengal season is on fire, guys it's happening. That was already I more bent on the drones hovering over an adverse injury. Look at Rome kurt And then Lamar's limping around the such a weird game but better, even though urim and spent I get a sword, the bengals there there season might be over because their five and five all five losses in the conference. They ve lost twice to you and I don't really see you know maybe then get a seven seed. But this is the aim of ceased. Hard right now right now there one two three four five, six, seven eight. They are the night theme in the area of sea. So what a weird name for you, because you're going into tonight, Thinkin we gotta beat the bangles, we gotta said their seasons getting sideways and it happens, but we assign a blue

Do you know where the most fun place to watch in the leg is obviously just a shitty situation in this was like a classic thursday night football, jerry doom fast. All around the total debacle. You can go more. The leg seemingly force naps about somebody getting hurt and boroughs hand looked like in food double balloon, like a balloon animal. When they zoom in on it, I mean this was bizarre because he was it became apparent over the course of the half time stretch in the third quarter got hurt in the second quarter that he was injured before the game, because there was this like a mystery footage of him. emerging from the team plane with a brace on his wrist and what he wanted wasn't on the injury report, but he was on the injury report. The bengals twitter feed tweeted at the clip of them getting off the bus and there's borough with like something you would have if you had was that was that, then you have the a the yeah the

but tunnel like back I embrace at his throat. You right here now have a more than a couple feet away. You never know and by the way, that the video dimension the amazon they vienna flowers. I cut that, but this was I mean, there's somebody to four implications here, but there's us oh, you know gambling and legalised gambling and gives report injuries and stuff like that. I would say bird, we're having an injured right hand and rest heading into the game, not themes relevant yeah. I think they're, fine. This is going to be a thing. It's a very bizarre situation I'll be curious where recording this immediately after the game. So we haven't heard the post game pressers or any of the updates,

and not only like his status, but on baby what his pregame status was. So I'm sure more will come out soon and there will be a little bit of additional clarity. But I'll be fascinated to see what the team has to say about the extent of what he was dealing with previously, and maybe it was minor. And then something really was like exacerbated during the course of play because he seemed to get there was that, but before the touchdown in which he like emerged grimacing and like clearly badly, I badly badly her, there was the clowney contact on the prior play. Maybe

something was exacerbated there that had just been sort of like a a dull faint thing who knows all we can do is speculate because they didn't say anything about. The injuries is very strange and then that shot, of course of him not only grimacing on the touchdown throw but attempting to throw on the sideline unable to grip the football, and that was it I mean it was that was it and jake brown and came in and played like really well in the year of the backup I mean the year. The backup qb is one of the storylines of the league, but yeah like it's joe burrow. I mean this one, the five best quarterbacks in football they already had gotten off to a really slow start. Obviously, his calf injury at the beginning of the year was part of why he got off to a slower starting to felt like they were. Finally beyond that and he was healthy and playing well, so it's just like a devastating

for their season, but all of a piece and of of trend on trend with this larger story of the sport, where, like so many teams, are reliant on backup quarterbacks. Now in week eleven I mean it's, the Josh dobbs a science, but not for everyone. It's crazy and it killed one of my three fantasy teams, which is fine fantasy. It's not real! You just keep telling yourself it's not real. Yeah I'm from about from baltimore standpoint. This is a sneak, a game the whole week, it's a thursday night or just never know it's just like shaken the snow globe. Wine come in on arable ass, yet come enough, a bad law, so maybe that's a decent signed, but then, since he the line was three and a half, and I was going to bet the baltimore when it got to three cars there there was so much cincy money. I was like all the sharps are going to come a baltimore. The line moved to four

as we got closer to game time, which makes me wonder if some of this borough stuff had kind of trickled out, because that, though the cincy was a huge public team are week and there all certain there is this baltimore surge money. So I thought that was weird, I think from a raven standpoint. You know when I say I know you We are delighted that Joe broke out her, but the lighted from the position that baltimore as it now, where there eight and free you have come. see playing philly on Monday night, you have cleveland with the shot for the year now that you have one of the one of the two healthy starting quarterbacks in the revision, the other in it. Any picket who doesn't play well for fifty minutes game? again on the most fortunate team in all of sports, the one score when pittsburgh,

dealers. How are they doing it? I just can't believe it's driving me absolutely crazy to watch. I mean Lamar got her in this game to the lake. It was a huge relief. I texted you in all caps. Kill me I was living like a horror. Politicians, barkie edges already gone out heard just felt like it was gonna, be one of those doomed nights for the team and he came back. He played really We had a great game they. Finally lee Lee lee toward the end garbage time hit a deep ball, fifty one yard bomb to o down at the end of the failure to he then got her passes. Who think I'd heard on her play the injury list mounted, even in victory, the failure to get the deep ongoing had been like one of the story lines of of the year amid a broadly, very successful, unexciting season for four Lamar unlawful and the team at large, but like Lamar, you could tell you is ginger on the ankle all gone

So, hopefully, will be ok of leaves, you gotta get like fully healed and well, but it was. It was scary every so perhaps that he took the rest of them hey involve living on the term falling air was, like heart, clearly seemed a difficult to make like a really hard sharp cut it in terms of the overall state of play. I mean eighty three, it's hard not to be thrilled. I thought that even after the genuinely dismaying browns game and the third fourth quarter collapse and totally inexplicable loss of the season. I mean that you can make the case and I think you can make it pretty easily unconvincing, that they should be undefeated at this point in the season. There's really no reason they should have lost the three games that they did it I mean it's a crapshoot season. The parody is extreme. A lot of teams have real flaws. I think they're a legitimate super bowl contender in a really weaken and kind of muddied field

but a lot of teams are still contenders and like to your point about whether the bangles are totally out of it. What was one of the most shocking things for all of us to see watching week, ten like you're, looking at the inn, the hunt, graphics with the raiders on their that's just it yeah, that's just a bizarre place to be in this. Isn't so, obviously there not out of it. Yet if boroughs done for the year, though I mean that's a rap on their that's around when their championship hopes it has to be used to improve yeah. Well, whatever the injury was, I don't think that's an injury. That's gonna, be better. Ten days from now lagging It's only refrain re enter, it is rare. Rowing hands seems unlikely to heal quickly, but I got drop something so we may see a baltimore casey miami jacksonville cleveland in pittsburgh, all six windsor, better buffalo, who seemed headed toward being

on Monday night. After blowing that terrible denver game there not tied for the seven seed with Houston, a team that either, I think your brother them was like four and a half, but your team, the rest of the way at the chargers gotta by weak home rams at jacksonville at san francisco whole miami home pittsburgh, not ad hoc. That's a really hard final scratch. A lot of those games are a prime time, so I ve got some really visible. High profile match shops and those final couple of games and in the primetime slate, the jacksonville and niners games, which are sunday night football Monday night football respectively. Those are both road games. So that's no picnic, that's what I feel very confident that they will at this point make the playoffs. I don't see how I couldn't be confident that Lamar's playing wonderfully z, flowers is electric. This is the connection that I've been dreaming of. I can't lie.

Say that mark Andrews getting injured. If that's a bad ankle injury in a lasting one is not like genuine ranch in there France he's just he's Lamar's, even with everything. That's the developing between Lamar and o dell, back on, which has been really fun to watch and even with everything, that's what developing between Lamar and they flowers in his rookie season and he's been since in all Andrews is the guy right. Like he's the heartbeat of the offense, he's the safety blanket he's, the the main, the main guy that he's that Lamar's going to build like a rhythm and routine were so. If he's out a fundamentally alters what they're going to do. But then you have the fact that the team is so well rounded, the mike mcdonald defense continues to impress their generating a pass rush. Kyle hamilton is, like other than lombard, say flowers, my favorite player, to watch on the team, right now, like thirty rosabella here he cried. I jump off the line of scrimmage today and broke up that their dad passed. I was a buddhist say the words kyle hamilton to bend. So I can you clear,

for ninety minute right, you just let him go right. So if you're talkin winners and losers from this game pittsburgh, the Michael myers store seward sixty three somehow with none of us under janet later in the podcast, I brought Danny Kelly and two million to r pics and we pick cleveland over pittsburgh. So I'm sure I'm sure we we were somehow reverse jinx and no seventh win, but they have Cleveland this week they still haven't played cincy still have two since games left, they have in arizona game, laugh they have the crappy patriots add in the who at that point might be packing it in and then the last two games are at seattle at baltimore, but that baltimore game you might be like the one seed wrapped up at that point are the two seed, or at least the division, I don't see how they don't get the ten wins if it's against the backup, bengals quarterback. But doesn't this just feel like a repeat of the viking,

last year, whereas are going to amass an impressive record and then completely like wither away in front of her heart isn't a blouse because their diet, actually that dominant of a few minutes, a deceptive record, like that's not really borne out by any of them supporting evidence either of advanced stats, where our very own rivals fits would so, whoever wins the cuban pittsburgh game. Now, equivalence got denver, the rams, jacksonville chicago houston, the jets and since he left so couple easy ones, but if using area Thompson Robinson is gonna, be planned, quarterback right back up, but the stores were jenny, picket still plan quarterback right. That's because, like whoever wins cleveland pittsburgh now is probably make the playoffs and then it feels like this text and steam. Yet everybody loves now has a legitimate chance to make it which it would be an incredible story. They have some good wines that they beat cincinnati. They be

pittsburgh db jacksonville, they beat new orleans, it's not like they've cream puffed it up. So you know they have arizona. This week we decided not to use that a million to r pics, but that'd be nice little tester for them at home. They should win column or is a little scary, but we'll see and then buffalo looming over everything else, fire in their efforts of coordinator. Yes, because we have to have this cave got sunlight as the bills completely collapse. This text,

like the story of the season. Right I mean how fund is a bit sieges: drought as having our are a ringer colleagues. Even her we wrote a wonderful peace this week about the stroud, envy, p buzz and the stroud and the peak mps being like a legit real thing. Of course, I am still a meal for tax. It is the view be of this for policies in camp, but it was a compelling case and I would recommend everybody go to the renewed our com, what a great website and give it a red, because the comparisons that he's making or not to other rookies in this class- it's like historic, rookie seasons or other envy, p caliber showing so does- is to see if Stroud can maintain and sustain that level of success, and obviously everything that's meagre rises in doing tat that team so quickly. This just incredible that really fun to watch that that the end of their schedule is lake. I mean you already mentioned. Arizona jacksonville is hard denver, you know their rising. So who knows the jets titans we'll see what

Keep the browser and by then they finish against the colts. I mean. If it comes down to that aim, you would take the texans in that game right you would, you would think you would take the quarterback. You know the borough injuries bad, because all the hc stuff is off and on right now, for future bets cause, I was going to look at the division. The texans ads everything's off cause they're gonna, try to figure out what happens here. I can't think of any scenario with the hand resting where he throws a pass on the side by and see if he could do it and bends over and says what it. What did he say? What did he whispered to the care of like music? It's done many but seem like you said it shout falk very loud, and yeah. So I see him back in today's great and then the case if philly beads, c on Monday, I dont think I feel great about any of seats in your team as the best case to be like Joe greater, so great about what

I find it very events, come up. Why? Why blow in the eyes glowing that cleaving gave her? The shouts of broken shoulder and a high spread that going, you still lost that made me feel that great joy Think it's one of those good leg. You'll, learn the lesson in the middle of a season and you'd know whether those now years now this is lake. Whenever you really invested in college basketball, see in and you're heading the turn, a man? I don't know if you feel this way, but I'm always like. I am not only content to lose in the conference tournament. I would prefer it was get it out of the way now learn. Whenever lesson I need to learn and there'll be ready for prime time be ready for the main show the point differential. I mean it's like the ravens, the ravens blowing these games. You can kind of

make the case either way about whether this is a good or a bad thing right like when you see these nuggets that are obviously like irrefutably dismaying in terms of like the company. They keep how successful those teams have gone on to be winning super bowls and how rare it is to achieve that level of success and then blow games like that you're like well. This is like pretty upsetting right. It's just not supposed to lose games like this, but at the end of the day like they had a point, the best point differential in football heading into the games. They still do coming out of it and their mounting lead. So the thing that they have to do is learn how to sustain them.

I thought it was interesting, especially after the browns game. You know the talk about like blowing. The fourteen point lead in the fourth quarter and like is some of the shine coming off of the oh. Are we looking at another like all time? Ravens defense rose at it. It's it's about the offense right, like you've, gotta, be able to sustain, drives late and keep generating first downs and moving the chains. In addition, just keeping getting points the board, like they ve gotta be able to stay on the field. Luck you energy eyes, yeah, I mean Erika euros. Couldn't finnish games which are closer went out like you gotta furnish games, though rules, one hundred and one games in the regular seas, and I'm glad you mentioned this because I do want to take a moment to say: No, you were hoping for a ravens loss when you asked me to come on tonight, and that you wanted me to come true to you alone in my dinner when my pity, who better to talk ravens bangles at eight fifty at night, the new

I am aware there are options, did that you never asked me to come on and celebrate the greatest and most joyous baseball season of my life. He's dogma. What happened, and I don't care about beethoven development? We don't care about baseball, regular seasons on either. Does god either does noodles was baseball. They could prove it just ass about the heart gunnery unanimous it is the year thanks. Man and my manager the year Michael myers. Over the years I have been a man well one other thing you have is your coach is related to just a blatant cheater. Simonov help pick up any tips before You know four january, maybe he'll get maybe the holidays babyhood, I'm not gonna, let alone not gonna. Let you put this out into the into the third put this

It's they're related is related to a coach who just got suspended for being a cheater. Has this sparked your interest in college football? You genuinely don't partake in college football as a proposition, I'm very interested in college football, and I need a quarterback when studying these that's true, you are drafted, but you do have landed. I didn't even tell you. This is a drake may use your guy, while obviously he needs to be number one pick, but what doesn't he? so you ve got you just moved on completely free I don't think we're gonna get that are more impact, but I think we have a chance to get to the end. I think I'd be more excited. They took marble said than any of the remaining quarterbacks guys like you, I watch out these game.

is that everybody has well. I guess, baltimore does it, but most of these teams have this awesome receiver that just fills the field and does all the stuff. In his eye. He seems like one of the shortest bets that have come in at the receiver position. Since I've known you yeah he's an original. Is he at least AJ? and I mean he's a he's, a generational, wider prospect. So let's take him and we'll figure out a quarterback later we'll go get somebody that support somebody want to play them, but I'd rather do that than do the fifty fifty coin flip with the non sure thing quarterbacks it just can't see if you've missed at it's just it's just. That stating look at the jets right now, domestic ran or not for re. I would rather not arouse they took care center. The best left tackle, harbour. we're back that they were sure about yourselves. I would really I really hope that doesn't happens. I don't want to see him on the patriots, but for you I would be happy to be happy for you I'll, be great where we used to kick his dad's ass. Others

I am so maybe maybe he owes us a hub yeah, so it's been a fancy. What's been your other favorite thing about the football season other than the fact that Lamar is a legitimate mvp candidate, any other favorites favorite at platts? That's obviously top of the list. It's just an absolute thrill for me to say each shit to everybody who doubted whether he should get that contract, including you like to say, eat shit bell to you right now here on this item doubt the contract. I didn't understand why nobody else was offering them the contract. They ve been be suspicious. As we say, are these tapes they could bags were later. Where was carolina, where were the giants like I? I just didn't understand it everything I still can't get over the falcons most of all, but every team that came out and said, yeah we're good.

Particularly with his record now against the annex ii is just so so wonderful am, I think, the lions, like it's been incredibly fund to watch the lions. I am sort of like morbid, led curious. All is about white Jared. Gough is capable of achieving inside of her really elevated at an advanced offensive. Wonder can scheme so that's been that's been really fun to watch and I think, Dobbs leg is obviously a little bit of a recent, see biased thing and will see how long it last play it coming out of the trade deadline. I am wondering why more teams didn't attempt to do something and then see Dobbs play the way He has with the leg previously like on the verge of being.

Corpse like minnesota, vikings is, is kind of astonishing and then I think stroud what which we already talked about like I watch college, a lot of college football. As you know, I love the draft. So it's always one of the highlights of my season to track the the rookie prospects and I just thought it was actively bizarre to listen to the analysis around stroud during draft season, particularly the He had time ohio, state bent and like the volume of obviously like he was about to take. He format the third round or anything, but the level of scepticism around whether he would be able to succeed as a franchise cornerstone quarterback, because other ohio state quarterbacks have busted in the nfl it also because he didn't and rubies wrote about this again. Really I felt really wonderfully in his pieces. We didn't have to do is much yeah

on those buckeyes teams where carbon harrison junior your favor player in the world is always open, late you ve gotta be able to evaluate quarterbacks beyond that, beyond penalizing them for their college. he was being guided, so that has just been in a great whenever I figured out here. What are you what's happier less mac jones number wine tush push number to see. J Stroud, I think, is the most fun it's just like. We just need quarterbacks. It's like how we need good tv shows right. Yeah, we don't have any good tv shows, although you really like the Loki season finale out, the finale was incredible. It was more. It was so pitiful, just I know you're, not an empty you guy and the seas in overall, I did nothing was a successful as the first season of Loki, which is one of my favorite. I'm serious ever, but the season finale was such a masterful final act,

I have a limited series and, like the ikea, I said to Joanna when we, when we potter about it on house var, I just can't think of an hour of the m c. U that has like other than literally endgame, better rewarded and honoured are investment in a character for a decade. Like sublime, I loved it great high concept, sigh fi paired with real heart. It was wonderful. I would try to convince you to watch it, but I know it's hopeless. So I won't bother. I just want the empty you'd self combust Well, I mean it's bitter rash. Rub that it's good for us cause. I think we we have the best people covering it and it's great content for us, but I just don't just from afar know nothing. I just don't understand some of the decisions where it's like. Well, we killed this character off, but we're going to bring back that cause. It's the most diverse, so it's like when you start doing stuff like that. How do I take anything seriously, it'll be like if we,

for policies, you write the ravens eyes, but they did it because it's the most diverse and there's still alive over here. That's what they were saying. I know, but it's I just don't get it by brain. Just doesn't work this way. It's a broadly. You are revealing your sincere lack of interest in comic books, storytelling. proposition fair, never out of this a central tenet of the common good experience, but it's not just. I think so too. Your point there is a risk with multi virtual storytelling of feeling, like the stakes, are endeavour lasting. I broadly, though, don't think that's like prohibit

thing with multi virtual storytelling, and I think that it l unlocks a little part of what made Loki so great without getting into any of the specifics, is that you could take a character and have this character confront. Other variants of other loki is right and lake. Ok, the person who could teach me the most about myself. As another version of me. That's like pretty interesting as a story telling concept shore it sounds great you wouldn't like to meet at other bill there are for years. It's is now. your honor, six one sex? What do you think they'll simmons is doing on earthy three, eight illuminati. Do you know what I by then I'll, thus owners our meat, potatoes. Guy. Now you cry, you know I just I just lived my life and I just want things makes sense. Look I have everything may arise in the multiverse. Now appear.

They are you can just if you make a bad decision with a movie, could just change it brings somebody back and now listen. We we agree on a lot of shows. Yes yeah and people, though the reason cause people are like. Why is the mail on the river It was more it's because you are already doing ninety seven things for us inside the book. You you're busy person jura those natural, but we we ve had some. Mrs lately things that we were excited about. I'm still licking my wounds from the american gigolo series that really felt like that was to begin when we we don't have one the affair air was really when we peaked as aqaba your hand I just we need a better show like that. I don't know why people bank you'd know shows the amiable, obama's with weird shit going we're not too far away from white lotus in three shots early one or two? I yeah the best one of my real goals and I think that

Chris and joanne are vested in joining in this mission is bringing you into slow horses hive just a sensational, so selfish a programme apple, o apple. Ok, it is so good. I think it is in the running for russia, Debbie wow order into the number. You only have to ceases to catch up on their both six episodes. It's a mystery adaptation. The cassis sensational, you'll love it it's great, genuinely great. I was thinking that cause I watched I had was doing emails and stuff, I was flipping channels because I want to have some fun in the background and put on marley and me cause. I liked the dog sense, but then kinda stuck with it and all of a sudden

marley started drawing down at the end, and I'm like that. That was what I texted you like. Should we do dog month on the rewatch, both cause you'd you'd I'd have to book you for every episode, because you're, the only other person ringer, cares about pets. Have you ever read that book yeah, it's good devastating! It's good at, like a true cant, see the words on the page. Through my tears experience yeah, it's really good! It's and it's funny. The movies age too, because as I've gotten older, I I saw the movie in the theater. I thought it was good. I got emotional obviously cause dog died, but but now, as I got older, It's like you know what this is really about, like family and growing old. So I thought that would be a great one. Can I ask you very natural opportunity here if you've reconsidered your stance on cats, you keep pushing this yeah, but while Y know, my wife is my wife as ricans. Yeah. Did you tell her that I have I hope that I will be tax a photo of my cat every day until you adopt a cat,

I Atlanta, I feel, like it's going to happen because I've I've caught her on the the sights a couple of times. Here's a thing you're going to be an instant convert. You are, I know it. You're gonna love it best. I'll, keep you posted. I made hell it yet the ravens getting the one seat in me getting a cat. That would just be a huge december for you, man, yeah, gunnar winning, turkey is a year you get a cat. The ravens moving toward the tab seed- I don't know- maybe I should just retire. What else is there other than the marley and merely watch apples? Maybe that'll be a rap for me, and I know what a man and racing through the rain proves that all dogs purpose I that movie, I only watched movie the art of the rain, the rain, because you doing another we watch your

I texted me as I need you to watch this too. We are going to talk about the soir too we were talking about. I was a costner movie watch the movie. It did not come up the next day, but I have been ready ever since, while that at that and the dennis the Dennis quaid was the dogs purpose out, their line of thought leaves and jumps in other dogs like that that something that should be a prestige to bishop lot. If you do, I share, did you watch morning shower now now add a watches and haven't seen a second of it. They are you you're, not listening. We gotta go thirty minutes of your time, the busiest percent, the ringer bally ribbon care and the ringer verse, but also house of our how far we ve got. We ve gotta standalone house of our feed now we're there twice a week check it out, follow along yet I said, bring rubbers, but you have your own

stay down at salsa bar also offer ringer verse, but you also pop on the ringer birthday. He had a seven person live show two weeks ago. We did. It was great. It was a blast. Can't wait to do it again. What's going to be the nerd event of two thousand twenty four was the one seed right now in the tournament I mean house of the dragon season, two tough to argue against that that's coming in early summer, whatever that means we'll find out. So that's pretty exciting. Despite your mc you critiques earlier and despite the broad abs you fatigue that sweeping are viewing public, I think fit dead. Pull three is generally anticipated. A hard are movie. You come into the m, see you as an important, I think more man also, you know, wolverine isn't

we'll be so we're entering a pretty crucial x men stretch that will be really fun, I'm hoping that we get rings of power season two. I have no idea what the date of that will actually be, and then there's I mean there's a ton of stuff. Coming this year, we've got at the end of this year, a percy jackson, adaptation of disney plus. That's like a really beloved book series it's being adapted on tv after all, the failed movie adaptation. So that's really fun. Three body problem. Coming on that flex, its benny often weiss sir their grandmother, genre tv. Why that's hitting that's lax in march and netflix also has a avatar last air bender adaptation coming which a sort of an interesting like on the one hand, it's a beloved property. So live action is solely the fans, I think, are very trepidation about because of past failures in the original creators leaving this project, but also it's avatar. You see momo in the trailer and you're just like transported to another plane of existence. So there's a lot

to be endured a year as it always is, and I will attempt to get you to watch one thing we'll see what it is. I don't know what I'll be able to swear you to consume, but something it's I my watch. I might try to watch and game over the over the vacate, the christmas how'd it occasionally they should those good you can put on you can't just watch you don't matter ventures and game yeah. You can have the german right, yes bill, it's a good one, but you can't just watch end game. It's the culmination of the infinity saga. Get I think I can just watch that I'll be good on everything at that point now. Did you ever get beyond you? You stopped watching after iron man right and then you watched hawke and then you kind of stole now We watched some air, my son and I were going to watch every mc you in that lasted. I think I think girls intervened started dating girls. Now is that he didn't wanna watch mcs moves with me. How kyle just told us jabra as a sprained wrist

That's a word sprain splendid wrist, sandra efforts as if it truly is a screen at sagamore hill. I don't know I'm in spain can obviously be pretty bad, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's done for the entire season. It is therefore allows us for time also if they can somehow limp their way into the playoffs. What my whole body, though maybe he ready for the play off, I was felt any time you of us sprain light that that usually means like you, messed up your ligaments in some way and if you messed up your ligaments, we always see this in baseball, and somebody has some sort of risk thing and it just it takes forever to to come back. So say, maybe maybe the bengals are lab report poured on them twenty minutes ago. This is what happens when you emergency pad mally, ribbon great to see you congrats of the ravens win thanks. Get cat. Then those america's number one sports book, especially them for buses.

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the general gambler Danny Kelly's here. Nobody loves placing bets on fanduel, more worthy, danny, suddenly knows, there's lines and again, that's that's part of what we need for billion dollar pigs. We just You know how you don't need to have gambling experience. We just need you, you you and raise our eyes on it. Yeah yeah. I want to go through some of these games and I want to start with rams. Seahawks yeah yeah. The rams are plus one at home. Again seahawks kind of the ram season here, they're ready back fuck stafford's plan and you're, not out of it in the nfc, nine and eight might might take. It might take the seven seed for all we know. Ah, they've played these two have played each other a lot. I think I think mcvay likes playing the seahawks. Oh yeah, seattle on third down thirtieth defense, stafford on third down with his receivers. Seven eight yards a pop, at least for the first half

this looks like a scary match up. I don't really like your defence right and I have a lot of different seattle. Danish seattle, fair for the people listening, I have seattle. I have a long shot for them new in the division and then made the play ass. I have them wins over and something seems slightly off with this team this year. So what is it? That's a good question. I think, there's a lot of different things. Their defense, I would agree with you- is like not really what it wants to be or what they wanted it to be yet, and you know, there's still just a lot of issues. They're young defense, they're still putting the pieces together at this t this game worse now, let's pick this one and was picked the rams for one of my picks, because if you go back in the history of the pete carroll versus sean a taiwan, it's not good for the seahawks, like the rams have always given the seahawks a lot of trouble for whatever reason like even going back to week, one the seahawks got absolutely completely shut down in the second half of that game. I think it was week one or early in the season

and for whatever reason the rams really get up. Two plates yachts too, I don't know it is, but this is like a rivalry further delay. It like a little brother, big brother. Think, as I see hogs bids thousand tonnes were the theme and then the rams run the rat you. I could definitely see that being the case in even going back to those l b era games. rams, even when they are bad, always gave the seahawks really hard times they they bring the game down to like their level. You know what I mean, it's just a in the matter whatever, and so this game worries me to be honest. I think I, like I had a marked staffers can be better. Is me back so yeah? So what was that game was in the play of game and golf couldn't play and the backup came in for the rams, then they won the game anyway. I think I am. Block that I might be right out of your mind right there. I think out there. I am kosovars like my very seahawks, just riding it got me I just

like mcvay in that matchup. Here's another thing with the seahawks. I you know a every game's, a big game, but this they don't. This isn't like a must, must win for the rams. It's like our season's over. If we don't win this game, their home coming off a bye stafford, we think he's healthy, but I just like the matchup for them. I think they're getting. I could see like stafford with, like twenty eight completions. They get like twenty two first downs, they just have the ball lot. Yes, what's wrong with you know the share in your opinion, what what what has happened in the second case keynote two thousand seventeen vikings thing or whatever you want. I swear I dont like flash in the pan and he can keep it up. I know you I mean I don't think it's quite down, because I still have a believer in gino it generally speaking, Last year he had a lot of turnover worthy plays that didn't end up as turnovers. Our member talk about this with my chat during the seas season like bailey

he'll got away with a lot of turnovers last year that didn't actually turn into turnovers. So he's an aggressive passer he's, not afraid to you, know, pushed the boat down feel these he's got that might set. I generally think, though, like The turnovers have been sort of the one blemish, otherwise he's been priest frigate. I know that's a huge blemish, it's a big thing, but I don't I'm so kind of a believer in hand. I think it depends and how you want to look at him. If you see him as a guy who's kind of like a bridge corvette good enough to get him to next thing, good enough give them to class potentially but maybe not like a superstar. I think that's kind of where he falls, but there's like people calling for him to be benched, and things like that. I think doubt that's ridiculous. To me was. I say, you're not happy with your offensive one. It's been less, it's been less, it's been a bit of a disappointment, I'd say, and there have been they've been really banged up. Just got charles crossback at left, tackle a couple of excl it looks like a b lucas is going to be back very soon he's I think, practicing this week. So I don't know for sure. If he's going to play or not- but I know better days, could be ahead

they ve been like rotating guys like courted by quarter it's you know, that's kind of in a mess. Injury was like the rams market them down way. I'd ask you to bring to pigs. Gimme one will arise. So my first one is: I liked the lions this week over the bears so unite us. Ok caucus the lions are are really good at home. Ironically, the one game they lost this year was the seahawks at home, and if you look at less splits with Jared goff home vs way or in his time for the with the lions in particular- and he is just infinitely better, at home. You just so much more comfortable there. His rating hundred six this year, eight point one yours for attempt at home and united they got their run. Game gone and in a junior gives looks really good day. Montgomery's back. They got that off. The line that got Ahmad Rossi brown, I think even Jamieson, William, is starting to flash a little bit like eat. There get him involved, and this you're, not getting any better. Yet the excited

A year ago it was like they're. There try doing the thing the patsy's to Chad do. This would think. harry were they run the special play firm. The child get I'm gonna drive until this confidence. It is they that their, but I've noticed the flashes on with the job. Then, on the other side, it's like you just feels come coming back off this documentary. That, like worries me, I think that in the last couple games that they play just in fields is run lot, so I do expect him to kind of like run around a lot in this game. But at the end of the day I just don't really see him being able to keep up with the lions. And you know this is not a great bears defense, even with montez sweat in there. So I liked the lions at home, so the lions are favored by seven and a half points, and I want to tease them six points down because and here's the thing with the lions.

you beat them by throwing on them right or the bears can be able to throw on them, probably not just the fields with a thumb, injury coming back and that I just we, he kind of saw the recipe for how to move the ball on them, and I don't think Chicago is the team that the only thing that scares me this is, I do think chicago's defense has shown signs of life, last couple of weeks, but I still think that's probably not going to matter, because detroit is so good offensive and they were unbelievable on that chargers, game playing from behind it. I just yeah yeah they're not built to play from behind now and that's the thing, so you get a tease like I just keep coming back to like do. I think the bears are going to beat the lions now, so I'm gonna grab down a tease, and I was thinking for a teased partner, so the vikings are, two and a half against broncos visa this year, and I think the vikings there's a little momentum with them. You know dab sanity is happening and tough stand it. I just this feels like a close came to me. I dont see temper,

out. Really anybody, but less minnesota at that timber got really lucky. Last week against buffalo buffalo, just dumb shit, well game, and then it came down to the end like if they don't have twelve too many men on the field. Denver just loses and has this devastating loss where they got right. They got four turnovers. There's one point: the first half eight I think they got the first three turnovers in the game and they had like six points and it's just everything went right for them and they still barely won and- and I'm just like that things like I can teach them eight and a half. That's a two score game. They're gonna boots the share that a russell not even sure, downward familiar black black for him, then the flip side, though moved the bar made is jefferson, has become a ban. He is right. I dont know I hope you he was limited today. So hopefully I think they're propagated you conservative with it. So who knows? But you know this is a The sun in a game right like this is the national state is now and I'll. Have you got a diagram? Go nuts but thou also,

I didn't notice, they might have stumbled into something with Ty chandler. I agree I liked this guy he's just better than madison. He say this is the. level of degeneracy that I have like I'm a dynasty guy. I have him on like literally every single one of my dinosaur teams or you our fanciful, offensive, yeah they're, getting rid of it. I would also like he's got some burst. He's got some juicy he's been like their kick return, our slash punt return at times, and it feels like, I think, one has coaches even set of this week, like every Timmy touches the ball Something good happens. He just has that special awareness he's got the juice. I really like him in college yeah, he's that smaller, but the fact that they were trust in him. They did like a wildcat play in the red zone rang last week that to me it bodes well and if madison can't play we get to see more channels. he's exciting. You mentioned the. I was brought the vikings up as a team that I like this week.

I'm a little worried about. Like you said, the line is pretty close here, but Russell wilson versus the blessed seaside looked up the stats, her really really bad. He has a seventy one, passer rating when blitzed a negative point three three year for drop act, which is thirty second out of thirty three quarterbacks that have a passer rating qualified and then fifteen point four percent sack rate when blitzed while second worst so and by the way, the viking splits at forty nine percent, which is the second letter that, with amongst the floor as it is the for every other, every other play literally. So that's an interesting match and I think that the branches with l try to do is just run the ball. You know, and trying to get him out of that. Just you know he is like a rams almost like a rams, seahawks type game where they're just going to run the ball play volleyball, so that'll be like the only problem I see with the vikings. But overall I do like the vikings in this one.

do you think Denver I like. I liked embers running game and gibraltar who had traded for I got so I get sour. Did a trade mac jones for jobs? say. I won the trade jerry's come in. I want that one, but Javan that looks like Javan tape from before he got hurt, yeah he's back he's back he's looks good, I just don't. Trust rests against the blitz yeah, so mayans vikings little tease action and I'm looking at What was your second pick? You really liked at enough. This is too low hanging fruit by the dolphins over the raiders guy. So if you look at what the dolphins have done at home this year, therefore it oh, they ve, outskirt their opponents by a hundred points. Further is obviously because they one seventy two twenty in one game, but their averaging was eight years for play at home there getting to third down on one of six offensive series at home. So I guess there they are just ass. We moving the baha, I think they're trying to get their run game back with divine.

jan coming back this week. I think that's one of the big problems. They've sort of had the offense has stalled a little bit compared to what we saw early in the season as they just can't get the run game going, and I think that's going to be a big part of this, the gameplan this week and the raiders have not been good against the run, their best player on probable sides of a well on defense certainly has max crosby. in a running can certainly cannot take him out. The game play a little bit. So I see them running along his game, gonna just dominated from our point of view. So what's the bet them because their favoured by twelve a half and I normally don't love lane that many points just re than he had the cheap touchdown potential on others four things. Would you think about like miami over total points for the game type? The thing yes on the language or lay that twelve and a half. What would you do once again that could be won a year? Cheese options like to use the deadline,

down. O o t sit down under seven yeah. You know what I can do. I can throw them with the lines in the vikings and then we can get plus one forty, diego. for the three of them. Take the lions down to minus one. Add vikings, the plus eight and a half and the dolphins under seven six and a half of them would have to win so you'd recommend that one I like that Should I be worried, as somebody who, as a legitimate chance to win all three of my fantasy leagues really for the first time in my life and that most dirt is a big part of that on all three teams? And now here comes aid and do I have to hire the tonya Harding guy. To recap: what do I need to do? Please don't do that. I love hm

yet allowed bay rigour founder both vision, a higher subversive lahti by aid aid, fantasy wig, I dont think I don't think I've been. Obviously it certainly is gonna lower mustard ceiling and fantasy, but I dont think they're gonna is he's item Guy's gonna get like all the volume you don't owe me like. They, then, even when it was scoring all those points early, in season each enemy- and he was like doing it on like twelve touches- are still going to rotate these guys pretty heavily. I think he might even see. Rep motors still be the starter and I don't think you're going to get like he's. the top five running back and get a anymore more going on going forward and for in fancy in terms of mostar, but I do think so get me started well and in solid. I still feel the most unstoppable play in football as most are running at a forty five degree angle.

Yeah vineyards everytime, never seen it not get seven yards just do it every once in a while, but nobody has ever run the forty five yard angle sweep that's better than that dude. This whole offense is just about annihilating pursuit angles if for some reason that they're the fastest offense obviously but most are- I my hope that my joke at my inside thing is that most art runs like a paper. Airplane flies where it's just like all of a sudden, it's just like floating on all sides, as banks really hard and like stabs you in the eye. You know what I mean like he's he's just. This is so fast he so fluid so smooth and then plants forgets foot he's just gone and so I love most of them actually most it. You know that each answer kind of overshadowed. How good most has been. Certainly this year, we're like over the last few years. He's just been. You know one of the top guys in terms of yards per carry Is it just really expensive? So if I gave you dolphins, total points

twenty nine and a half. Would you go over thirty glance for the dolphins and are now because of it again, if they're running a lot, for they can score score? Screwed up my points, I don't know, I'm gonna get that data. You hesitated which yeah yeah, I'm gonna give you a couple games that I like on top of the ones we talked about, As you know, I've been right in the stores like will issue vaguer over and over again week after week, without over the modern jackie is for that analyses, and now it's a rookie quarterback For the browns note, the shine devastating their play. Options are out the window and were taken as before, ravens bangles tonight. So we don't know what happens that I think the brands defence can win.

Game by itself yup. I dont even really think they need more than ten points from their offence and as if they could settle when it right a other thing with them. I can run the ball in pittsburgh just last another linebacker and was already twenty fourth against russian this year and now in cleveland. It doesn't matter like chubbs out their missing tackles there. Still able to run the ball every week I think they're going be. run the ball, keep the wig and then on the flip side, cravens defence. You know they're the best against passing pittsburgh. Twenty ninth pittsburgh takes five minutes to get going. You're not gonna. Do we'll do that exactly right, arm, quivers the best against first out loud birds, thirty at their one of the worst. I just don't see how pittsburgh can move the ball and I've watched them. I bet on them

I am always stunned how bad their offense is and how hard it is just for them to get first downs, now you're going in cleveland against a team that hates them and- and I just feel like I'm getting a free point and a half. I still think the line should be three. The steelers offense is so bad that I just think this line's kind of insulting. I don't think the rookie quarterback drop off from watson, is dramatic enough to. I just feel like I'm getting free points. What do you think yeah man? I think the the way that the way that I can see the steelers spoiling this. I guess this is kind of like the story for their whole seasons like getting turnover but I but they're, probably going to have a dorian thompson robinson, just run the ball at like the program. I can ask him to do much of anything and I'll, be the smart play and he's you know you can scoot too. So maybe they incorporate him into the run game a little bit. But you know in his last game in his only start this year, I think he had like three or four turnovers So that's what better there were. No so I've heard people talk about was other game, he was terrible, he'd litter.

did know. He was playing until like an hour before the game. True that he shows up he's thinking are at get my back up to be wraps, and then I was like hey. Do your starting? The aim? Guess why these facts, but it seems like this week he sat a whole. we could practice. I know they really liked him and precision. He was gonna there. I have dobbs because they felt like he could be a better option right. So I I just I sometimes there's been an efficiency with gambling where it's like well, their starting quarterbacks hurt so now cross them off and it you know. Watson was good in the second half but for the most part, has been a liability for them, and I find it hard to believe that this is this dramatic. Over there, friends, that, oh, my god, they don't have. The Shawn watson, like I think, there'll, be fine and yup. So I I I hate turning my back on the steelers, but you know honestly, if they're, six and four after ten games that feels about right shadow- and I don't

I just think picket against that defense is going to be a nightmare. Did you see there was the passing chart for picket last week and it was literally like nothing past five yards in the middlefield. It was all just dump offs like little swing, passes, if you take a shot down the sideline once or twice, but he just can't do it against the brow. You can't do that at all. He can't do that against anybody really right now in the one thing with the browns I do feel like. In kind of run, the bob their throats potentially like that'd be the one way to go at them, but the stuarts have a bit him do that all year, although they are play, gale, alarm labelling or their running back like a little better. Nobody at the last few weeks, so I mean I'm a man sitting

can't run but yeah when you're one dimensional- it's tough. I my last bet now. We could also do this of my aim. Instead of one of these teams just for the record, but there's a better fanned or where you can bet the tenuous. Both halves o k and we can parlay that bet and what I was looking out was the cowboys to win both halves against the carolina panthers. I like that yeah there in care ladder and the forty nine is too and both have against the bucks who ok, how I could switch that and just had the cowboys and the dolphins, winning both halves and then we'd be good to go and now will be how we get the dolphins bed in a guy like that yeah I'm a little worried like there's gonna, be if the forty nine, are winning by a lot that you know after him and was making fun of cash in hand for keeping starters.

Yes, last week, maybe they'll take their foot off the pedal. I dunno, if that evenly matter enough, but why guess the question? The question for me is like do? Are they just up seven, nothing in the first two minutes of the game, and then it's like? Oh my god. This is going to be like thirty eight to ten and we're and we're done the first half second half bets are usually pretty fine. If you have the right thing, because you can relax pretty quickly, so we have mizzou at the dallas arts are here, so that would be the t, forty that takes us to minus one or night, and that's perfect. So may what do you think of that miami? First half miami wins the game. Dallas first at dallas, wins the game yup, I don't see. So I was looking at the that dallas carolina and the teams that have scored big points against carolina gets their defense. Seattle put up thirty seven detroit put up forty two miami put up forty two

then, on the flip side, there thirty first db way off and the way only the giants are worse, but the giants are like. Historically, we ve never seen the like. This were right. Dallas is top ford dv away and we ve seen them like they killed the veto. They killed back jones, they killed Zack Wilson, they killed bread, ribbon, yeah, I'd sunset This scenario, where caroline's baby to move the ball and stay in the game and other I was this is another game I was going to bring up. I thought it was a little too like low hanging fruit or whatever, but it's there just such a bizarre. I mean they, and played a normal. They failed to normal games. All your everything else has been either game blown out of them blowing out a team, and I mean just imagine this past rush for the cowboys against, your bryce young. In this caroline, often to just haven't really had an answer for anything this year. The divide flashes here and there, but it just doesn't seem like they can move the football like their best receiver. Like thirty, three or old I'm feelin, and relying on that topic when against the cowboys like that scares me plus, I did

I ride. I love when weird shit, that's happening behind the scenes so that right takes the first, takes it bad of coordinator. He gave up its current. They beat used at fifteen thirteen, and you can watch the locker speech It's like my guy right there caught a great kid. Two games later it takes a bath. Just seems like rake. Those is going to get fired at the end of the year now and he's just you know, throwing shit against the wall. I know it's never a good sign right yeah. I thought that I liked that one a lot. I just think the cowboys are going to be overwhelming in this one. Okay, so we have dallas winning both halves with my when, in both halves that is minus one or nine on unfeigned, oh just quickly, the Tampa verses, niners game, there's some like advance, stat stuff that I thought you know I can't I can't run the ball in San francisco has like a top for russia defect. Sorry,

the war room, where's, removing Tampa's running game from this game coming out of the gate right Tampa sucks ANA their defense is the worse than the wagon stopping teams on third down san francisco's like one of the best third down teams, then it just I was just looking at a gun is just one of those games or the niners just have thirty four first downs and they have the ball for forty minutes yeah and bayer what am read I agree. I think the miami and the cowboys won are the best pets. I liked the chargers, but I just am not betting on Brandon Staley charges by industry, the packers I'm just

doing it. My own idea of classic sucker bet another. When I was brought up again, it's like the charges are to me are always just I don't wanna have to deal with that. I don't either just so unpredictable week in week out I love herbert via yeah last one we don't have to talk about the other games. So though I did stare at the jets for a split second against the bills before I realise that it accepts listen, chief seagulls yeah, so my instincts are chiefs under three point: anytime this happens. Take it. They talked about the sudden east coast bias today, and the ringer gambling show where it's like you're getting less than a field goal, and you have my homes at home. I'm in a gaming needs. That's about his good of a gambling spot, as you could be in over the last five years. I think I feel is eight one their fists.

well they're, big because they run the ball down Kansas city's throats. Actually, don't think so. I, like Kansas city's defense yeah, the gm can, can city move the ball on Philly? Well, I don't know if I love their passing game, but I also think philly is the perfect team for them. So I, like five yards, seven yard him scrambling around and as the weak went on did they really leaning toward casey, but I I I dont totally trust it. what do you see when you look at this game? Man? It's so tough, because I ever He said is true, and it's like a watching. The she saw fence this year has been really frustrating because it's just like nokia, he's in it feels like no just not smooth everything, is little like fits everything operates in fits and starts is like how I'm nervous no speed. Yeah here. Is that fast, they don't seem scared they have all these random receivers that they rotate into a game in and out like that, no unevenness

like over sixty percent of snaps for them. So it's just bizarre to internet? You know, I don't think they're run games, especially intimidating either. But then you got my homes in my homes, kind of like smoothed all that out, and you know if he can get out, get away from the pass rush and get outside the pocket and make things happen out there. Then that gives him a chance. I I dunno I can kind of come into this game like in the eagles to be totally honest with you so yeah I dunno. That's just that's why I've stayed away out my because I think Philly might be the best him in the weak and I and they haven't, had the game yet where everybody goes I'll fill is the best tina The way I played rang games. I've never felt that way once about them. There's always been that guy. What was that? What was that? So I think ultimately, it's a plus it's a revenge game for that, but man I keep looking at that. My homes minus two and a half on my god. This is like a game. it's so hard like when it's used apple and Brady. It's like oh you're, giving me less than three points with Tom Brady great I'll. Take the kansas city is going to be rocking two. That can be a tough place to play, while the

houses in the swifts are made in my garage just on that it's going to be the biggest storyline yeah yeah. So we'll stay away from that. But I do if I had to pick. I think I would do. I would do the chiefs and the eagles. Alright, you ready yeah million dollar picks week eleven I believe it's week eleven another while flew fiercely. It's crazy, who made a regular season is almost over. I now who's the fantasy they pay for you, oh man, well, for a while it was mostly ida. He's definitely fallen off. I don't I don't even know like honestly. Chris Mccaffrey is, is boring. You're, probably with their subsidy land momentum. All the soul is a lesbian. All that about a chance to win fancy repeat. This would be a good package for you guys. That's a great point: does it it's been like, I think, there's been like two or three week period, where a new different envy, if he kind of emerges from it, there is like

Jane you re most was the number two or three running back and then nfl fell for awhile there. You know J brown was actually going back for a while. Now we get seedy lamb going bonkers. You know, there's a couple, a correct too: you're. So how do I get it? I would probably safe christian mccaffrey overall, but you know this is a good. This is a good topic. You know a j brown is another reason. I don't wanna bet yeah he's just terrifying. Can I have a mind to my team, so I've really really enjoyed it this year, but man they've just completely figured out it's nice when a team, just completely figures that how to use a receiver, oh, like is the four rats you could run and you you got it all them are wearing the the ba. This is the reason I really like the eagles. It's not in, and I agree with you completely like the whole year and I've been saying on our part that every game,

the way, a little bit like man what's going on with the eagles, but they're still winning every game. You know it's just like that: they're not doing it as smoothly or pretty as you want them to do it, but I keep coming back to the idea that they have these little competitive advantages, that no other teams have never won. They steal a down because they do this tush push thing and they basically can play for. Fourth down, so much more confidently and easily and conversed so much more at a higher rate than any other team. They basically steel down compared every other team, in the red zone in on you know, third and fourth down, and then- and obviously you add in the fact that Jalen hurts kind of like steals a gap in the offense way he can run, especially in the red zone, and then now you've got guys like AJ brown who's like an unstoppable, just throw it up to a monaco, get it. They just have these little edges at like so many different areas. Then they have the pastors that can close games down and three that's why I just keep going back to the eagles is like the obvious super bowl favorite to me, because they have these just advantages that were

the teams out I'd, be excited for that cause. That was my preseason pick and right now they are third on vandal there plus really fifty, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because they're probably going to be the ones and then in the second round, they're gonna play. You know somebody that that good job. Maybe it'll be dallas or maybe that Dallas will be good, but yeah they'll be the four or five hoping that new orleans or whoever beats dallas, but maybe it'll be dallas, but they know they can beat Dallas, but they might not even have to play a hard game until the nfc title, Alright, here we go danny kelly million dollar packs week eleven last week we made seven hundred and sixty thousand dollars. We had a big week. I hadn't been bigger, except for him talk

and the two teams that I loved last week last week of the year. That's all right, I forgive you or him and down nine thirty for the season. Nine hundred and thirty thousand buyers will return. Today we are going to put three hundred thousand dollars browns minus one and a half against the steelers. We talk this out a little nervous about the rookie qb, tiny bit d tia, but not dt, are not really not a d t r. Honestly, though, like you met, you put you let like laid it outside. It's not like Shawn watson's vanilla, venting that offense really, so it's just they're going to keep doing what they do. Play defence, they stop you, they run the ball and they can aware points out by the second. This game, I'm gonna know his acronym is deteriorating

As I see it, as a good tv network should rightly, the scariest were scared of him. If he was detained, I browns virus one and a half lad of advantages for the equipment. The offensive in this is really leg. The all time with good teams awesome defence against a crappy offence match up in their home, and I just likely than up. I that's one number two. I can't leave this too danny. I brought him on setting up against his beloved seahawks, but she knows ramsay hawks, there's a loud revenge for the ram stafford come back into its must win kitchen sink aim for the red light ran ass cup is gonna finally get back to doing his dominant things. Like he's I'd like three straight so power games, I could perhaps have like two hundred yards and is probably rams plus one so insulting.

added them. Oh, we didn't mention cards texans. I forgot the throw that one eye you were staying aware really on raza, inquiringly, blogger or in a half over the texans. That line is too high. The kyler thing is just so I dont know what to do with it. I think kyler make some are better than they should be, probably plus this mcbride guy tray mcbride. He looks incredible. I really really like him. I think he's been like a huge addition to their offense, so we're going to stay away from this for billion dollar picks, but I want a flag that I looked long and hard at cards plus four. I have, but I don't know if I want to go against the c j stroud moray this point plus you could throw the ball in arizona. So if there's ever a game, he throws for four fifty yeah it'll, be this one and teaser is our next one. Three hundred k, lions minus seven africans, the bears.

Locked that one and I'm not worried about that. One vikings were going to bring them up from plus two and a half two plus eight nath against denver yeah. Did you see the Dobbs then coming? No, of course not, but did you see any? Is there any version of this? That seemed conceivable, it's just the fact that he's been so good or that he he switches teams and immediately just elevates the off every offense, his honor. What what craig craig caught in the host yeah. I got it. I just feel like this. There should have been some way for all of us to figure out that this was conceivable. Maybe that's why stop sanity. It's like it every year that I feel like teams screw up quarterback for whatever isn't like you, you get a guy and that's of the backup or the third string guy and he's like so much better than the starter at you. You just never know. My joke has been he's the corner. leaped, quarterback eurostat show back in the day? How ya you just like he quantum! since you are new life- is like in us in surgery ladys, I got traffic, I figured I'd, prefer loretta,

I got it so I I think he's just mad he's been the obviously very smart. That else lie, but you can run around to do things like with his legs that I think that's changes. Dolphins is that he's in, and I don't know man it's crazy he looks really good. If I ran a football team, I would just never have a quarterback that couldn't move anymore like if I had my choice of like oh, I could have Derek carr or I could have MAC Jones. Whatever I would just one somebody who could run around and try to save way just get every here. Now drivers have so much stuff. Yeah I'd run the forty yard deep pass like every five plays, trying to get a pi. I laugh at under, throw the deep throw it. The jets should just did that. That should be their entire zack wilson, offense just throw it that throw like high lob forty five yards to garrett, wilson in traffic and just somebody had some next one we're doing. This is a parliament on fanduel minus one. Oh nine dallas winds, both halves against the panthers.

And miami wins both halves against the red or so first half and the game and so I might add one and I were putting three hundred k on that and you don't want to put a tiny bit on the cards money later now. I mean, I think they could pull it off. I think they could pull it out. You talking about cards when your cards extra, just to win That would be kind of like ninety six, that's kind of a fund one I don't know, I believe it in my heart of hearts: yeah we're staying away! Sorry cardinals! Those are the billion dollar pigs for week Eleven raggedy andy, danny sorry bet against your team is ok, reverse Jake's, don't go meaner than toward her thank you. I er Jeg har man. Serpent ringer. He just wrote a rookie power rankings, peace on the renewed, our com. There

I loved reading. I had a great time with it. We are not going to talk about any thursday. Basque boxes were taken this beforehand, so the words are playing. Draymond can't get ejected from the. I is already suspended right. He can't get ejected again, it's five game. right, so I think it was. It was a meteorite, so he's not he's not in there at all. I think they're waiting for him now that this suspension, during this suspension, like any lash out on social media, now just add, games that are now he's been off his rocker this year I had so ricky rankings you had when been yama number one. How much time do you want to spend talking about him? What's in it, let's limit ourselves to forty seconds go, ok I mean, think about women. Yama you're gonna hear some kind of ours awaiting some of the dialogues. I thought I would here I mean the the will be thing we talked a little bit about it on group chat. I think that the situations are always really big. I think this is a good said way and a discount of the thinking behind the rankings. I tried to go into it with

rewarding older players, who are doing well and sit in, would like a winning situations and in your weighing it, with a sort of the grace that comes with guys that have bigger roles. Also, who are younger. Ah you know chatted. And it is on a team that is ahead, it's more sort of actual eyes. Then the spurs, as you know I ve, talked about as the people, the rigour of talked about it nausea and they needed somebody who is exactly like him, so that helped him yeah yeah, so mean mean he's fitting in on a lower usage and like just the his touches have been different, whereas whimsies usage is, I think, thirty percent and a lot of that has been so I have leaning on the areas of his game that are kind of inefficient right now. So it's been a little messier, but I think when you compare age and situation and that that extra year has been big for chat, so I I still, I still consider you know when bees projection being any and he sets really brilliant high points do already in this area as well,

marty in the record. I hate, though so hand as the point guard. Their whole experiment edges feels like stout thanking me and I'm just not messing around This did. I want to surround him with people that will help him actualises potential as fast as possible, have no interest in spending the ear trying to figure out jeremy, so he could be my point guard, even if, even if I have you know they have, they have jones who every time he comes in his plus minus is way up, but I just the even to Jones's, I'm fine with because there's two the thing that's frustrating by women armas there's this stretches. Where he's just not involved vernon, you know for five minutes, because either their knock and vast break points, because nobody can run fast break

I mean. Why is the perfect guy to do that doesn't seem like really. Anybody can throw a good entry pass and his entire team other than the backup point guard, and then they'll just forget about them and like to think that next game is a perfect example where he it wasn't just that he had a bad game. It was like he wasn't involved in the game, which is almost worse. I want him involved everywhere. I want somebody looking fr. I am thinking about him taking care of him pouring water on him like he's a plant, and they do not have that this year and I think it's an important thing that their missing yea, I feel it thereof. there is sort of like they have a lot of like working appendages, but they need some like central nervous system. Slashed brain type. Things delight hollow thy so on. So

and is like he's a great connector. That's a theme! Well, that's a theme of this class is like connectors. We can talk more about that defenders and things like that, like so hand in their opposition, is gonna be great, but people don't respect. Him is like a pull up threat, people all respect like he's, not like the scoring threat. I think that you can like dr at your office like it, you can have him is like the initiator and expect that to be the thing I think one more guy because killed in his is a score. First guy who's learning how to get off the ball and impasse a little bit. The cell exact same thing, and you know those guys when they they want to get into their rhythms. Like Kelvin was like notoriously rough as decisionmaker come now to college. I, as the cell, learning to do this on the job too, I think sometimes, when you combine that with the fact that we saw that next game that victim run a straight line right now, like he so we're not

im hard run to the rim were knots in chat. Couldn't do that really a year ago either he used to just evaporate in contact, so I think they're, just kind of balancing that with like you know, I I think the the most likely outcome for Is that he's gonna be like an elbow short foreigner opera waiter. The way dirk was, you know, cause he can see us. I I was witness to somebody. I was like when you stack all the elite defensive stuff. I think that's going to happen for him. He is a really good fast, or do you can again? I kept geeky catching yourself in like is this too much like is this? Is this really happening but, like I think, he's going to become a great passer, so I I still am like one hundred percent in on the upside with him. I am one hundred percent in as well, and I've loved chet.

And obviously I love that ok c team. I have a lot of future bats and all kinds of things with them. So I watch a lot of them anyway, and there are certain types of teams: they're just going to have problems with right when they play jonas valanciunas. It's like oh shit. That guy is forty five pounds bigger than everybody of the thunder. You know they play yoga as I got, but this is a rap is getting a thirty eight nineteen and ten, but that thing that I've loved about him is his ability to attack people off the dribble, which I think I just forgotten about, because I hadn't seen him. You know for two years, but I, but I I just wasn't expecting that because he's so tall you just think he's going to like fall over when he does it, but he it does have the ability to go by people or pull up, and on top of that, all the other stuff like we knew the defense is going to be there. We knew the offensive rebounding

and then the that he has some fuck you and on which I think will you could see from tenth grade, but to me, he's he's actually further the latter for me that I was expecting like he's more of a finished project, the finished product than I really thought. I thought this was going to be like his kind of what like the year when bees having right now, he's kind of having a sophomore year billionaire refresh near so I don't really understand nappies. Yo yo by him like going by people, I mean I posted a clip. India in the in the guy at where I was gonna, watching what ok seas off its does whenever you know I never he's on the floor like the respect that he gets. You know you mentioned a shoot. In the driving on those two things are this lengthy? You know it with the fact that he can handle the ball in a forty six point, three percent on almost four attempts were game. I in thirty minutes

and I think the big thing there is that you know the more. I think I think I wrote this in his draft email was that he's going to get faster, the better? He shoots it because he you know he he draws those fives out there. I mean he, he just one zach Collins again like I was watching them, that's how he keyboards at college, but he does. He has a few moves for not being like twitchy fast. He does is very mobile he's flexible and that something that will be in chat both is really interesting. Is that they they. I know you you, you talk a lot about like athletes, indifferent errors. In being pro, aired and how things are different now than they were. You know twenty thirty forty years ago they very ahead of this. Get a schedule like chet's. Dad was a sinner four minutes. photo who, by all accounts for everything you read is like, was really talented but had crazy physical problems, and so when chat started to play,

he was ahead of that on. Like making sure you're taking like preemptive physical therapy, like, I can't speak to the exact science of all this, but like they were thinking about chap being physical art like flexible ahead of time. So like a lot of his just in traffic comfort in vix the same way you see vick doing these insane stretches where there's a a screenshot at something of like him garden Chris Paul where he sits down, and you cannot tell how tall he is based on how flexible he is so I put in there a clip I was just kind of watching but there were there often does and like when you know, went there. They'll have sequences where they'll yo dawdle habit around the basket or they'll go too often of rebound, and if they get the ball back, they just sort of like you know, exhale, basically, like an organism, appealed to see there. Offense like and then what happens? Lowbrow though they'll exhale and then you'll see these gaps open up in. There suddenly jail away, I'm saying shaggy held, as you know, is like their these driving lines. It's just a really interesting thing to watch like I at the way it's working because you gotta respect jet machine.

while their plants tonight, unfortunately, firstly their plane the warriors. So we can't will see what happens. That's interesting game for them, because I like them against any small ball team or smaller team. And the warriors that's kind of the model for where they want to be right, just be able to switch on defense at just having got five guys. Who can attack on the floor a lot of shooting their three point. Shooting is woods, killed them in the losses. They've had like they'll just go like seven for thirty eight from three and have these things, but for the most part I liked the pieces- and I think the west is you know I, the the best team is denver in the west. Minnesota is the second best team right now than that that may change as we go, but they, I think, cab number two locked up for now, but that number three spots open and he neither I looked through everybody dance I got they could be that thing that could be that team, a son who were really good ram now arthur thompson.

this Chet Holmgren. You had your thomson. Third on the pistons. He is my favorite rookie, in a while, oh in a while it from this respect, whatever my expectations were vs, what I've been watching, I'm just say: I fell in immediate love with him. He is like the perfect energy slash wing defender gives a shit just everything he does is additive he's the type of guy that no matter what situation It means that teams just better if he's on the team and I've never seen a game where he wasn't impactful in some way, and I know like that: yeah the shooting needs to get better all that stuff, but the stuff he's doing it's It's really rare fur perimeter guy that you're talking about there's, there's some pippin pieces in there. This option erin pieces, you're talking bout leg, hallowed ground and he's there already like a he

when he rebound game tomorrow night and I wouldn't be surprised rate, he could have ten off as a rebounds in a game. I wouldn't be surprised like when you watch the I test is backing up the stats he's averaging ten ribands a game as a rookie and he's not a front court where so. I I just I don't even know who's like him in the league he's already a one on one, and I know you had him ranked third, but what are you saying? I mean he surprised me like there. There were things that that didn't surprise me like, I knew he was competitive and the thing with the thomson swains, it's you, had the kind of way was who they played in or a little older in the overtime elite? They were kind of their play in these the game, it is hard to watch their words. They were not inevitably turn into these night just transition fast. That would look like bad ghana. Well he's out of her hand, because this style, you want him and like the highest level games with like some structure, and then he really stands out the shit it as you know yet, and I think, play next to a twin brother, who cannot has a similar kind of skill set brow

I leaned on man, because I thought almonds passing unlike I'll. I'm inside gonna rougher start so we'll see if, like it even down there, both end up being incredible, but, like the defensive, I think, he's also in kind of like a weird like euston situation. They have all these guys, that kind of graduating, as like in their touches, are going to go off the rolls going to increase and change, and then they added brooks and fred. So it's like, I, I think, he's going to get squeezed by some of that, but I think laying next to I'm a man like who is another just total non shooter. I think he's always had there's a weird fit thing going on. Where were starting to see, and I think when Bogdanov its comes back, where you get a seat, The more is that like, when you put you, can almost play us are like a big like if it you know and- and I think it starts to you know he he can be the cutter he he can really pass the ball. That's another thing: he'll have these plays where he'll cut, and you know, he'll make these crazy. Like hedge,

shoulder I fake pat passes. The cutters and he's really really good at like finishing, are like his priests percentage, isn't reflecting that right now, but he's really really athletic around the rim, crazy and transition, but the defense man, the defenses, the thing and that's like a that's like a common thing that keeps coming up in this classes. I really think He could be an all defeats player I'd. I really think it's a matter of wind cause. He's been terrorizing people like you, you he gave shea a hard time he's. He super super disruptive around the basket he stood. I absolutely anything else, man, I absolutely love that did area. They're like I just can't believe first about how but he is right away and the fact that he can grab like sixteen rebounds in a game as a region like in his night came as a rookie against like a good team, but that I just you know I I always look at this stuff like. Would it be fun to play with that guy? If I was still playing pickup? Is that a guy you'd want on your team? He is like deep,

that guy you'd want on your team, if you're, just picking the guy up and room these fives. I want this guy. Like all he's doing, he doesn't care if he has the ball. All he's going to do is try to help he's going to bust his ass he's going to create, plays all over the place and the defenses like just jaw drop. You know that to guard the best player, that's another thing thing wants to yeah the defences jawdropping and it changes the trajectory that team. you know- and I I don't know, what's gonna happen with them. Does you get out In other, probably one of the worst seven seems the but poem by garbage comes back and from all these scenes from cade already, and they have a lot of big guys to throw, and then you throw him in there like they're, just going to be a bitch too. it'd we really hard they're gonna have shooting there, gonna have rebounding they're gonna have size, and then, if Cade can keep alibi

like that's a team that, as I think as the season goes along, I I texted you. I think you had shed the red spotted at two but thompson like if you had had thompson at two. I don't think I would have been upset because to me- he's like a safer bet chat. I dont know how to know what what's gonna happen. The reality I'm talking to health, wise physicality, leg, gonna live chat, and when they were out, I'm just nervous half the time anytime, somebody's diamond for loose ball. Yours they there just too tall. They can't get out of the way and I'm just that was worried. They're gonna get hurt, and this thomson is just like those guys that this disguise a machine yeah, but I am more worried about big on that front than tat I feel like Chad has gotten like almost sneaky sneakily strong in the past year. No I'll be right. I lay over is maybe it's the legacy from last year, like he just gets her in that summer, lay game as I what happened jets got already.

The gangway guys make you can chat gangways about like I'm sorry, but I'm in a way that a gambler survive health last or fifteen years. That is there to do. I hear me talkin about, like I mean, like the guy, that Kevin actually did this to him. Independently of me, I found our later was like. I was trying to project to him and I dislike. I kept coming back to like power. Guess all like he's like pow played differently because he grew up in a different era, but he would a shot three. If you were an international prospect come in now I was like I was now. I was joking with the groups, as I was like when we were at salt lake city last year August either just done that, and I was like pau always like in the round about of our hotel, and I was like just gonna like looking at his frank. You know that in a way that might have been a little creepy, but I was this cannot because I had that. My mind- and I was just like ass pretty soon

He does but a lot away and like I don't know, I think the thing you said about the pistons, though back to them, is interesting because if I saw is a certain me, you know they took ivy because the town was there and I think that's always smart, like used into them What more do you know that there is a guy there for tickets were taken at risk? Just take the talent, but I don't think I don't know that they can have three dissonant. Cannot shake Shooters, you know like with ivy with chile in a obviously is probably fingernails. Integer of the cliff right now and I just think, especially with kade playing like a pick and roll style he's capable of doing other stuff, but, like those defenses are all about like you can keep everything in front of you. I just wonder if they should like kind of lean towards picking one of those guys and like Adam, I'm just I'm kind of dubious about that style, because the shooting thing the bill always comes. Do with that stuff, like they're, going to have to figure that out because he's just a total nonsense. Right now. Kaden aside, sorry really care yeah, I'm good, I can put it. I can,

could a real team around those two guys it. This is a borderline turn the camera kyle. As you know, I probably on the oh skewed, henderson stock and by the way if people are selling of AL happily by it. I did wonder, though, knowing what we know now about us are. Could he have been the? They are the portland peck, and then you keep dame for what were watching from him and then what sport them look like because, as I am sure we can kinky dame were rebuilding, but if you put the stuff is doing in the trade in portland with them and with the rest of the pieces, they had an eu, and maybe you still figure out how to make at eight and trade. You know, because they phoenix clearly wanted nurkic, don't to give her the money, but there's some version of a portland team where they take us all night and not scoot, where I'm like. It's kind of a fun team cause he's like literally the perfect guy for,

What that dame version that team was rights, I don't, how is it so instincts sliding doors that never expected to entertain? jane our man at number two all year last year, like I'd, I thought that it was very feasible, but the thing is that I think are underrated sars play making a little bit and on that seen that you're describing hypothetically I mean that's pretty. I think he would fit them. Does it elevate them too? I mean fine, I think his word it elevates into. Maybe it's just I don't but I dunno is it would it be? You know he provides more things I think, like intangibles than like bible. Does I compared his like shooting repertoire to the bible? I feel like it's always going to be similar to that, but yeah yeah. That's that's an interesting idea, I'd I still think, but that would that would imply that you think they shouldn't have taken screwed, though right Don't think that portland should have taken scoop. Ye may not scared a mum still buying everyone stack, and I just e the key to him is to

it down a guy, the same way, derrick rose and westbrook when they came into the league, the first two years, that's who he has to be, and you had some stats in there about his. Ah, when you had him ranked number ten on this about a summer, his pull up, jumper stuff, like that sign who he is get to the rim, get downhill, slash and kick get to the rim. That's who you are, and I just think he seemed a little overwhelmed. The first couple games, plus they had this new team, they're, still making trades all the way up to the season. I'm not I'm not worried about him. I think other people are, though I think some there's. This draft was so good that do you know if somebody's not awesome right away, and then you look at all these other guys. You had fifteen guys listed in this thing and I, like all of the guys this is one of those rare drafters like man. This is going to be some redraft and a couple of years, let's take a quick break and then what's up but about the rest of

so you had lively it for an dallas, and this is in it When we talked about him a little bit already bitches. This is the fallacy of. that one year, one and done where you have these guys sure top five in their class. Three whatever and then the card she's, maybe doesn't go quite way, and then the overreaction happens. It was hard to watch lively duke last year and think that he would gonna be the fourth player in this list, but then you watch him on the re team and I think that play will look on. It seems like he's in the red situation for the most part, but their accentuating thinks he's good at, but more importantly, he really gives a shit and that's a recurring theme of this class. Specifically, as these guys really play hard and really care and they really give a shit and that's what surprised me about it. Did you see that quality a do her? No, I saw they were so

thanks? I mean like I knew that ye had. I really think that the spacing and the lack of play making in the lack of shooting. That's it. That's really tough. I mean those things interact with each other cause when it in other, obviously, but like a duke it. It been, I saw him more than you know. I think anybody else on that team and lie down. It was tough because he also at a slow start of the year, the gate, a calf injury so and from what I was watching at lower levels. His learning per was pretty steep in terms of like learning, defensive concepts and things like that. The thing that you know I have I've, had a lot of kind of back and forth talking, like the main, the main sort of like arguments that I've heard people throw. Is that, like you, know, lively versus, like a jordan hawkins, and I think that's something you have to like way in a class like this? Is you mentioned scoot,

like the guys that have I'm building into these rankings, ideally some at some forgiveness for role because yeah. If, if you look at like touch time and like like number of dribbles and things like that, like lively's- and you mentioned- I said this in a piece but like you. Couldn't, if you tell me who is the perfect human being for Derek lively, be paired with its luca? So now you give him like. That's, ok, that's a condition. But also like lively, is doing his part in it. Like he's reading the screens is reading window role, defensively he's been ok and I think that's what I like. I think, the two to the hardest jobs you like to be a defensive anchor as a rookie, if you're a big and be a point on this, because it's so much it so fast. I think he deserves a lot of credit for four as good as he's been are the worst case scenario he's at twenty five minute: a game guys really impact fallen, has good stats and fits in with certain types of prayers, and that's your worst case. Therefore. Now then, though, the best case there is, he becomes like a thyssen chandler ii,

but even more springy, you no kind of their early, the late to thousands version at chandler crossword, like some net claxton in there, but we ve seen guys who do other stuff as those guys come in the wagon they succeed over and over again. So we know it is the fifth things. A great point has thompson on Houston, where's, possible team for him right back, then we brooks jail in greece. they really have some priority may seems to think his seems good he's right. I think that seems actually pretty good at the running everything The schengen and shimbun has turned into a revelation this season, and I just don't see him getting the touches on that team. It doesn't mean he's a bad pick, but, like that's the kind of guy man, I wish you'd gone. Cargo you know, orne I get bigger wicked. The two of us could probably take a five days Are you gonna that team that would have been really fun, and this time I just don't think he's gonna get the possessions, whereas, like I'd, think if they taken us are, I think he actually

played boyfriends. They're gonna need one more guy like that. Just the flying around opens shingling. The rebounding, but you know fit, is a huge part, as I think I've is on the wrong time, and is it a dennis sped junior sitting nation, where the only situation is. He needs to have the ball all the time, but then your team has, though ceiling or is he somebody that complete Furthermore, as we don't know yet, but it doesn't look right with him on the peasants savage joyed, watching the pistons- and I don't on is already I get him around about that. I'm not really sure what he is yet they I don't know what the cop would be for him, but but I look at a map and just like. I have no idea we're not going to know the share. He'll have moments, we'll probably have one game and he comes in and puts up twenty and you know fifty minutes by all the ground, but for the most part I just don't think he's gonna play a lot this year. Yeah, I think we're still you no word Ten eleven games in we're still in like twelve in some cases alike, were still like forgiveness mode. Where you know, suggs went through

as a couple years ago, where, when he got drafted, there are lots of people who are like ok, jailing, suggs gonna, bring balance in order, to the magic and then we adds at christmas time and we're like well, I just think there's a net under some of these guys, I think, of like adjustment period, because you have a lot of good and be a point. Our struggle rob a berries. Darlin was considered the worst player in the lead by like every metric is for his work ear. I s and, and things start to come around I think you do have to give some grace, but, as you know for now, wherein they like benefit of the doubt, you know, because if it was pure raw performance like scoot, would be an amen, wouldn't be in consideration like they're, getting a big benefit of the doubt, based on what I project them as and what they're such she is, but as it goes along, I think that net is gonna loosen. Understandably, Will you had wireless on, ok, see number five and you Brandon miller and charlotte number six and I,

would add, wireless four and Brandon miller, five and lively six, but this is where the rankings are so fun. Everybody's got their own opinion them wallace is another one. I mean you talked about this in the peace that thought it was a great point. I never really thought about it. This isn't even on watching these games, the defensive upside of this class, you might have for first team, all defence guys few in the future on this list and wireless is one of those goods wallace's I mean while set aside like both of those deeds. I think have first team, our defence potential shut down. Potential dates me had that jaded mcdonald's, you know Anthony edwards going it's a celtic side of of oh shit of these guys are bringing it

these guys are hard to get by, but wallace. You know they trade up. They trade. They get Burton's his salary to trade up two spots as a man. Can you got him at twelve? Was that worth the risk was worth it his? They can't keep him off the four. and I to me this in peace with him, as is he gonna slide in their crunch time eventually, is he gonna be like a finishing guy for them? He's too, spendable. That's the thing he's a low waist player who, like in the sort of like narrow kind of parameters of what he does he's been super efficient, like you know, he's been crazy, efficient, offensively everywhere he's a smart cutter. Like I mentioned like the basing thing how all eyes go to the drivers of ok, see even really clever about like at those forty five degree angles into the lane. I made a living off of that. Neither do as he really really can. Turkey is a really small layer. It was frustrating formulates, are simply with a team because that's not whole team is just super competitive yeah. They stay draft bright, kids,

I got you know here. If you listen to the interviews like like they had a round table with, I got like a lot of their youngest players. I was like these are others like really bright guys like there does they thought the game really well in case and does the quest per case, and now is just kind of like how much can expand from here. You know like. I think that he could be I'm like our I dunno a primary long term, but like he he could. He could grow in the guy for them that could make some decisions on the ball. You know like I it he opens up so many possibilities, but at that the defensive class thing I brought this up to you cause I I I didn't want to get too carried away. I was looking back on like two thousand and seven is about as far back as I got. I just think if you think wimpy chet asar amen, I still think is a great defense anthony black through the bali case and lively hot, yet cooler Ali william talk about cool by then the defence idea. That's another one, parisian pippen o max. I think he's gonna be defender andrew Jackson. He gets a chance, Jordan, wash its chancellor millet about psycho on portland. I love that guy would say he bade directly to employ.

I come yeah these even run by air it's an annoying player that always ends up on good teams, like that. I guarantee that guy will end up on a final four and be the next five years by our man. This guy look at him. Do him doing stuff the tag for him. I said If he was everybody's dad's favorite, he was going to be every dad and port. I guarantee you like if you could, like you, know I'll audit. The texts in portland, like I bet the percentage of dads who texts are signs of love camara favorite player. He says galleries get those add skills that are use. The ads on favorites are probably be the next person punched by dream. On green, you didn't who's the is the is definitely one of the favorites and I love wallace, another great pick press the and who he just he he clearly has. He has figured out something he's figured out something with length and competitiveness and brains and puts something in a supercomputer that just spits out these dudes

the guy, the biggest loser with wallace, though because giddy, because there might only be room for one and that one in wallace is younger and not a rookie contract and giddy still can't shoot. I love giddy, I think, is important that and he's another guy super competitive. But at some point here they have to learn how to make it outside shot. You too, to play the kind of minutes. you're not bear, but I'm out there in crunch time, so brain the miller casey was iron in then We argued about that a lot last summer and he was just his whole thing was like. I know what this guy is hears was going to do, is going to come in he'll, be able to get a shot, he'll be a good defensive player Think what surprised me about him, at least in the games, that I've seen so far he's a better off. around player than I was expecting. In my head, I just had him as more of like he's just gonna Comana be a guy who little Tegan marie last year, who shoots of three is so get some shots, but he's not gonna. Be that

fumbled tangier baby, that a calm but there's a feisty next to him that I like and- and you know that, if you didn't have that incident happened last year, maybe he just goes to I mean. Maybe it's just a slimmed down. Everybody knows of this guy should go too. We should mean argue about this, but ah I see what he is makes sense to me, so you like, and you like him too. Obviously yeah his shooting percentages are viewed. Look at then you'd be like. Oh, like that's lower than I thought from three like he's. I he's I believe in the shooting not worried about it. He can come off screens. He can shoot dribble pull up. He shown all that stuff and it's translating he had a couple offers that were bigger think he had wanted him ass. That was like over six and then he added no advice. point him down a little bit, but I think a big thing for him is that he's not being too stressed, like if he was being a little more like featured as like the primary boy and, like I think, you'd be a little messier but

like the high lama and and gordon hayward right now. Ah eh I use it is in the teens, so he's just gonna come along, slowly were seeing it, but you know he competes defence? Do anything I think body, the finishing and stuff have to come around. You know, there's it there's there's a discussion about, like you know, what's the ceiling, I said that I thought that he somebody that, depending on how that goes this year, he could I've I've tears in these rankings for any by the has seen a yet, and it's like you know, start superstars. All star in BP As you know, on down he somebody that I think that a sin to like that all our sadness, if he like, really turned the corner on that front because he passed the bog, shoot ball so believer in those yeah. I don't see him as an rb a guy, but I do think he could be an all star potentially thing with him. I liked the shots he takes and the percentages that go up but ate the same thing with maxi like macksville, have games or is like eight for twenty two, but

like every shot. He takes. You know, and I think with mirror, like he's just got a nice feel for where to get to the spot said he wants and he's got like his three or four shots that he knows he can probably make, but he sees feels pretty complete. I have been impressed. Also when you see him out there with these other guys, he is a little like taller. I know we knew it as betterments whereby the he doesn't feel like small rookie, you know, it is a little paul georgia like his size body. So you can't did george number seven he's in a great spot because of say there, they're gonna go it's there's I'd been great players the tank for this year, but they're not could to be a playoff team and though there already slowly like lenin, drive the car on the driveway, but eventually they're, just gonna fuck em, the keys and we're off. But this feels like esteem.

I mean he was out of the lottery right down, I'm sixteen yet emmi his his skill set like if it's there at. I think it made sense for them to do for it because I think a lot it most. People agreed on his like oddball talent. He's he's got that kind of like a reg. a rhythm gonna thing going on, not a super athletes, but you can see like ok if this guy gets like really technically polished, can alike, booker had little bit. Of that I don't want to say that he'll become booker. That's a that's a separate thing, but likes that sort of up that that makes up for some of that like blow by speed. I think- and you know his his like pick and roll like the percentage of his possessions right now. That is better in the pick and roll. It's a forty two point: three percent, that's incredibly high for the rookies and dribbles per possession. Is you know four and three cores

Hours per proteid, so he's got the ball in his hands a lot. You said liked around the driveway. I always make this comparison that, like with ball handlers again in this kind of situation, it's kind of like giving like the keys to like a manual transmission by mclaren to like a fifteen year old. You take it around the track and you just hear him grinding the gears as he spinning out and every once in a while. He'll go one hundred, you know, and then it's like. Oh, he's learning how to drive, and so you kind of have to give a little bit of grace. I think for some of that stuff, but he's what I believe in the shot making like it's just cannae be a primary is the question yeah. He as these that are really cute, stay a dried out for ricky, like his sometimes he's going faster in his body and the you know hope drive to the basket, he's gone so fast. He can't even finish whatever on the flying into the basket sport, but you can see it and I I'd odyssey black I've liked more

well than I expected on our land. I didn't understand the pic cause I felt like they already had faults and, while the take another tall guard who can shoot but he's different, there's a vibe. He there's a personality thing with him, and I say that I think is super import and you can see it like he's. Just he's like a quarter back on a football team. Is this kind of larger in life, charismatic old school point guard and he's a connector and just trying to make everybody and get people the ball in the red spots. Scott is happy, he ate it weirdly. It was the right pick. and I didn't feel that way at the time, but I think for you, don't need him to score twenty five points, a game. You have these two scores. What you need is somebody that bring How are the energy in the play making that he does in his tall and he's weird and he's just unused it like an unusual where a who would you even comparative, though gosh that stuff

I honestly don't know it's so strange that this class has, you know: you'll, see little patterns and clusters of player types. This class has a bunch of big swishy defenders that are athletic and smart, but cannot shoot the ball for shit. It's really weird, there's like eight of them as guys that Alec really believe in- and I thought you were going to say that the shot of him where he was on the bench where he'd made the big play, and he was like all sad that he was. He was depressed because he'd made like a negative play in crunch time and it was like he cares. I mean this he's not going to. You know it's like, but we ve always known that. at him, the psycho competitor, in the best way, I like one of the cliff site, spelled out in the, a profile it? I would urge people to check out, as there is a play against that's the lakers that almost went the length of the shock thought where he single handedly, disrupt him disrupted him dear, well kept trying to screen him with a d yeah over and over and over it? And black was blowing it up? He like he just he really cares. I I still think that, like you know, I was

on the jet howard thing, I'm giving it more of the benefit of the doubt for the magic. I thought that like caisson would have been amazing, with lando. I think joint hawkins would have been amazing with orlando, like they need movement and they are often like spacing. They need something to distract from kaden palo or from france appellate black, I think, helps them stay big and helps their defences. stability, just the shooting. It's the same thing again. I don't know that. I have a comment for now. I can't take a one off stop my arrive. I was thinking he was he's kind of a guy. I was kind of water metal. Card away aims to bake as part of the micro carter. Lambs thing was, he didn't have any the leadership stuff right yet the size it seemed on paper, but there is just something missing in this kid's, the opposite. Where he's just second natural leader, you know- and you mentioned the hockins- with them. They took jet howard over Hawkins right knee, yes, belief. So

There are the number admirably bats, really rough that mean that psych, because hawkins, like he's just these carry kiddo cease, carry kettles where the three with a better three point shot, but you of know is like his he's: gonna be the weak for fourteen years, just doing whatever, and I I don't really know what that means from a column on the team and though this I'm a calm, the extension, but you got is basically got his replacement just sit there and who could come in and probably put up ninety five percent of the same stats, but he's gonna Ricky contracts. So I don't know that

Team is that no oral unseen, bad, a big when the other night, like David there, clearly something on an author be able to stay in their own way. They ve had terrible injury luck directive last, like almost the entire bench, but god damn they have so much talent, but just to bring hawkins was like their eleventh man and he can come in and have these thirty quake aims. But I you know his eyes. He was one of the few hours. I you and see what he was gonna be coming out of the draft lay. I don't know if this is and then he's been even better than I thought I told you can sprinkle them on everything. I compared him. I you know I I was saying he he's just like a food item that you can just put on everything you like at these pretty good, that's great cause. He just he can shoot with I mean he's his shot- is fast. I think he's at like thirty six point, seven, unlike what on a huge volume- and I I think that the point I made in the piece is that, like he, I, I really think they could ramp him up in, like a miami heat type way where His attempts, Kurt he's, proven that he can do it at a high volume and if, if they ran

I'm up and start using him off ball even more. If, with a green decides like really hit the gas with that yeah you pass a point, is issued where you know, staffing clay, obviously like the benchmark. For this, but you, you get in your mind like oh, this dude's crazy, like he will shoot. This ball, like duncan robinson, is the same way like hawkins. I think is eligible to do that, because I think he's he can shoot it like that. I I want to see him and trey murphy play together when trey murphy is back and and fully healthy cause. I I think that would be a nuisance to guard. I like that, did it really so hard to come in as a two guard and do a ray allen, imitation, basically where new fifth in the league for three weeks, it's crazy that he there, but a rely on him like that. You had him eight, I would have had him seven and you had hawk as nine that's just shots fired at skirted. why am I like archives? It is he's a very good rope, wherefore my aim in his

raise advertise minsk, he's kind of slid into their crunch times little bit. Once again, is the anthony see, there's three minutes left in his car still out there I think this would be your favorite player. I I knew about him. I didn't know or sour about it. You're like a goddamn it, but now I love them. I mean they, you know they did it again. They drafted the perfect guy for them. We'll see, you know, we'll see what the three point shooting ultimately that that'll be whether he stays on the forerunner in the big moments, but he's just here where to go and what to do and there were soon have these dude set me. That's the first thing you would say they know where to go. They know what to do. I would I would not have school lower than them now. Just because scoot had three bad games

Yes, I'm still on by again I'm buying a ruined skewed, stuck she's quickly racing through the rest. You had sas at eleven Jesus Christ, where this guy come from. His like came out of mba central casting is a heat check. Third guard off the bench is he's a mix of twenty guys that we ve seen. Exceed right either. Clearly is six manner the candidate for years. From now on it just instant office it, just a he's he's a guy who is like a big time: gerbil pull up shooter and defender in college. He played at a program at like he. He just he likes to defend he's easy he's a guy that looked a little smaller to me when I saw him in and it'll be a game. I was like man, he looks really small, but he, like he's a smart. You know when you have a big playmaker like hey, you can play a score. I made later I made like a very you know: pump the brakes. Nobody take this like one one, but it's like it's the it's, the luca bronze

and saying you know when you, when you have a bigger by maker, like that, you can put a guard size guide next to him told sir, but he's he's suspense Was, I think, he's a studies in a daily? I will take the ivy spot. I feel like spot. Take a lot I ve minutes cause is the more I I d listing version of what you'd want extricate. I think you're right sas her just there's crunch times and he's just out there take a big shots: you'd black number, twelve, my guy combine number thirteen his death and getting punch by german at some point. Visa cough number, four fundamentals, Helen upon the words like three years: and then you had a man thompson at number. Fifty in the cool, the bali, I almost feel it they should have been a sixteen has cooler buys done enough and I hate watching the wizards, but any time I've watched them. I've I've just been intrigue by him.

It seems like he hustles he's got a weird long, athletic body in his cage is clearly, as I read this, keep an eye on this. Did I don't know what happened this year for him, but it seems, like he's, got more minutes at least yeah That's one that, like that's a totally valued valid argument. I've heard the most from wizards fans and I bet they're not out there not out of bounds, saying that to me, I it's a lie full of bali. Others reason on ferries pippin, I'm a believer like he was the god. It was like right there that I was dislike. I gotta do I need to go get this guy, In the end? The list at a visit of together could slide, and I could see cool bali climbing on this list. Easy just ease in that cluster of guys that the defence of upset and you watch em out there and he doesn't look lost now he's a guy. Who grew alike, is one of those can appoint guard size guys they grew late all at once, so he just has a nice processing kind

power. You hear that people it's a nerdy way. He just thinks the game really well for for for a young guy, really fun draft. I would say I on the higher and of drafts with crazy upside and then the bonus of Chet. Somehow counts for this draft, at least for this working class, but if you're counting him as in this working class, which is kind of unfair, but I think we have that this is one of the best ricky classes we ve and that the defensive and the switch ability, and just some other Some of the one or one you know, corny kind of qualities is that some of these guys I've is pretty unusual. Maybe just where the leaves going like our ears are six eight point guard and here's are six ten skinny shawn marion guy and may you know, maybe the league's just going to get weirder and weirder. But this is a weird draft that has been really good. He didn't he didn't have drinks in there. We haven't seen enough a hendrix. Yet do you like 'em, I like 'em, I I think you know, I I'd been told that he was going to spend some time

The delay, which I was totally in favor of you know. Yet I it's possible he could. He could have a resurgence and jairus walker's. Another guy, who I recall, allows surprise surprise didn't want to have on the floor. As you start, the pacers already have enough defense and the zinc of has a similar problem where it's trying to. Ah you know, they're just hemorrhaging points kind of the pacers are doing it by like they're, like I we're just going to outscore you, but he's a guy who just isn't quite ready to defend I'm always kind of in the middle on jerry walker, but Yeah. That's sir! That's gonna that that was the reasoning there. I am, I think this working classes Another reason we need tumor and ba attempts. We have so much talent like dudes that are getting enough time now and in part of it is just there's too many good players and there's you look at somebody like thompson on the rockets, since that is not going to play he's on a team that,

a bunch of better. It will be lucky to play for minutes again. We have no idea what he is. So I come in great job in the ricky rankings, good to see how we feel about Kentucky. Before we go. Did you watch a mere than I urge chance guys like I was nl? I watch levitate. Ah they're gonna be fine. wild. Actually with this, I would always recommend this deal. Because you know I don't want to make people watch college basketball cause. I felt embarrassed because in the first duke michigan state game, we were watching it with like sear at tyler, and it was like forty three after like thirteen minutes in the game- and I was like- oh my god- this is a terrible marketing moment. Kentucky ethic is going to be chaotic fun in a way that I think you would like. I bet you been even know some of the players for kentucky they're, like social media stars. A few of them are so I would recommend, checking them out they're going to be, I dunno how good they they'll be, but they're definitely going

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