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long wanted to write and a self help book about how the average person can you are you. Are you not a therapist, but you and you're not self help guy, but you work with the highest athletes there's an air everyone at the highest levels. I found you to rachel Hollis and it was within hearing. You speak for five seconds, which knows her yet and don't worry it's come and it gives you got me a me immediately, because the first chapter of my self help book was to be give yourself a nickname. I believe I believe wholeheartedly that oh god, I'm a nickname guy got I'll go through if we need to monitor the way I operate with nicknames. My wife is why The regime is a big nickname person and when I heard you George Rachel Hollis, you are

same mindset and when you started to explain your mind, set everything fell in the place for me, and you believe that greatness can be achieved by having an altar eager. Yes, The example I heard you say on rachel policies was the black mama kobe bryant, where the greatest possible placed ever live second, I heard that I went wholly fuckin shit and I I was joking when I should give yourself a nickname. I was joking I was like now, but that it does work. As you know, the whole hog is the whole code and when he gets out there come on baby yeah and then you know and and and the whole theme of the movie. The machine was a guy law, between his alter ego and who he really is at home. and your very first chapter footmen I'd down your like superman, had an altar

I don't want no part of FARC yeah you're right and then you talk about both Jackson and it is so now like you to talk and Jim jubilee, an elevator can't you love your book and and I want your audio book, but I would love for this pod guest to be a cliff notes of your audio book and how people can accept. The knowledge you have the expertise. You have the people, you ve worked with new change names, but you ve worked with the greatest athletes in the business. You ve had conversations with the greatest tell it that has ever been around and and it's all based on, stupid thing that I believe in so hardly give yourself a fuckin nicknamed give yourself an altar ego. So I will thank you for all that I'll be clipping. And using it ass, have as so clear it was version. So in the subtitle of my book I say the power of secret identities to transform your life, and some people are like wait. I have one.

In a time of children on who I am now. I've got a crate and alter ego for myself, and so where this goes back to is I started a paper form. mental again company and ninety ninety seven working with teenage, gets longer for coach was an industry and even the until game world was even industry. There is people at the highest levels, working wits like a mental game person or a sports like person, but not teenager floods, and so why? Why do you do that because I was naturally good at I play college football. I was national regulatory, older brothers. He was very competitive, but he found that he give very let you in your own question they get it out of my body lonelier Europe's everyday needs, but so yeah The brothers grown up in a big farmin ranch in upper candidates. Were I in a bird is like the texas, a candidate rights. It just work sitting bore his whole tribe came through after this, the, but yet it's in the bookkeeper.

sexual have brothers and the brothers two and half years in five years, older than me, and they could their their bigger than me. They could beat me up, so I played like mental warfare with them and you know that they really did. I think I've got some great mental toughness from them, but I was a scrawny kid had aspirations of. I want to be the first ever canadian to win the heisman trophy. That's literally what it says in my school year bow wow another. I oh there's no paragraph. You know that says you if you'll see me on nfl films one day, because my dream is like I want them to do like they do at deacon jones. I want like a biography on my career. You know that never happened. I was not good enough and so craig, I done playing myself. I sort of volunteering in high school working with these high school kids, and I just spend time talked about like listen like what their mind: the need to prepare better all this stuff

and an pensive asked me if I could mention their kids and so this little fledging bus started long or short. I really focused on building that business up and I started working with higher caliber people, our caliber awfully I'm a big believer in mentorship inside this phenomenon, mentor he's known as the yoda baseball harvey dortmund. Anyone in Small knows him and his books mean that made sense. He took me under his wing and then he started funneling me some pro athletes so great he opened up the door for me and these better ask They would all cause. I'm again, you remember I'm talking to people privately. One. one. It's like bert mean you there's no michael none of us? Ah there, no crowd around are not standing on a stage talking to an audience of people where there's group And someone says he I do the same thing and they're just doing it too, like not be left out, it's very different. What

happening behind the scenes and what like the top performers are actually doing is if they told people what they actually think about themselves. Everyone think that they are demoniacal, maniacs, maybe or duchess, sounds crazy, but act when you get to certain level there's an amount of like attention and pressure. That's just different up there, so they do do things differently, and these ones would say, like I've got a persona, I got a character, got a secret, identical an alter ego, they wouldn't said explicitly, but then now. If you will like, what's your process of getting into your no state or yours on, and they would talk about these things and after a while I was like boom. This is a thing I did it when I was a kid when I play ball. I was so insecure about how small I was so my three was drawn composite of walter patented ronnie lot merged with five native american warriors And I had a very specific ritual that I would go through in the locker room to become that thing. Those ritual

I will say so. I had when I played sports intramural early or like for fun. I would I would change my name to it, a while boy nature yeah and I would be in the smallest, shortsighted, fine, no shirt, no short, no shoes I will just like every day, then I would take over as quarterback and because I didn't care- and I was this while boy- nature, boy character, yeah I did care and I would play fun and loose and we would destroy people and it and it was fucking awesome in them. get on the field. I was once again as baseball what I took very shears as bert crusher and I would find sometimes I'd underperform. I wasn't having much fun yeah, I wasn't as losers. I was on an interim euro game right where we were having fun and I was and you're a while boy now

boy over here, and so when you said that to me, I I heard about your rituals rituals are really important athletes. And rituals are very different, so large, a lot of great books at their talk about habits. Routines ritual is a different category. Ritual is when you unite the thing that you're doing with deep meaning story around What it means to do this thing so, ah You know someone's know. You're witnessing someone put on their socks, but my clients that might be that shit, that's their that's. They read uniform everything all right, so they are pulling on the cape they're pulling on the thing me when I was gonna play football. It was the chin, strap it was that final sounds so sound is an amazing trigger for flicking flipping switch for someone.

and so when I hear that snap especially go there to push arc as my hand, one is difficult to get on. we're coming off the bus to go onto the football field. That snap was when I would feel the trash five native americans come within me right and I actually had five trading carts three of walter peyton and to have ronnie law, there were laminated and when I was getting dressed, I would put I'd stuff walter pains in my home. It I wanted to see the field like him and then I put his other too in my five paddocks, I wanted to run like him and then I had The other two have ronnie lots and put the my shoulder pads cause he's an absolute devastating ronnie lot. It played with the risk of forty members when school university tat, but he was one of the fucking, most savage savage middle defence of lime. Defensive backs you ve ever seen as the area is notorious thing was one time he got his finger, cardinal based mask and there,

my while it doesn't look at bringing us, then you and he just went cut it off the tipp of his finger. Ronnie lot of fucking savage yeah me, He is a fucking animal. So when you said those I was like ronnie lot. Yeah, that's the card you put in yeah again. That was born out of my insecurity for how I could not put on weight. I was a skinny guy, those six foot, so I was trying to get as much like me It's all on me from these other people. That was my armor, and so when you thought you were coming against that scrawny little number. Seventeen from medicine hat high school in alberta- that's not who you're playing us. It was me and my tribe, of seven, the the term altri go comes from cicero, the great roman statesmen of loss for any any point, determined forty four b c in a letter to a friend, because he does had this phenomenal career and is like any tips. Basically like people would come to you with dirt and his eyes.

talking about this alter, go. He pointed to the other eye or trusted friend within we all know how important it is to have a maze friends around us peers. You know, torres. Other people too, to help us navigate life, but we think dont think about in the contract Between the six of our ears, where we live all day long and so all I'm trying to do is let people know that a that's a normal think as like when you re, to me. Your response is very similar to like there's, not a hip, hop artist that got me as well, and they say I read your book and it was twenty five years of therapy in an afternoon, because they but would judge themselves at your level or because they get themselves an aim to give themselves a character in the goat there and then, after a while, they feel like odd did I do it wrong? Did I trap myself by doing this thing, and then they read the book in a like: no, it was actually creative imagination at work to help find a tool to help me navigate,

I could hear aspirations are whenever it is totally access. Sometimes the things in the bird is too afraid to do yet or the bird I mean I don't argue very in the weeds on this, but There is a nice there's, a warmth myself, my first big special at netflix time I do too shows I was gonna. six hours murdering I was murdered. My first show I bombed, I really bombed the ones we are taking. I'm remember seeing the. You know I am how bad was it like? How much would only flood she's literally said I don't even know where to start. I guess I was bad. You better get the next one yet know my dad. My dad had always said to me, and this is a crazy thing,

and I I hope dads are listening or moms are listening. My entire life, my dad told me I dunno. If it's true or not, I love pressure. He goes you. I dunno buddy. You love pressure. Whatever the fucking, all the chips are on the table. That's when you perform at your highest. I dunno. If that's true I really don't know. All I know is that, ever since I was six years old, my dad told me that, and I believe that and its ingrained in my reality, and when I I have one show to get this special. I have, I'd be flawless. I have to be flawless and everything my speech by movements I contact ebbing. These be flawless, remember land. very casual and well you you put yourself here, because you love pressure and then, and then, My body tony Hernandez, said faggot, you, the machine, and I went back and I argued emotional time on it right. shut off and was like it is by fucking love. This is

me in this situation. This is where I thrive. I don't thrive when I got when I when I went on, I am in a safety net. Thrive when the gnats been removed. That's when I focus it and then and that weird comfort of you, the machine, it's tough, fucking great, this nickname, I accidently gave myself drunk in raw, sure, yeah, yeah and and all of a sudden each time. I've ever needed it I won we needed to subdue the red rocks my first time. Remember nick my manage moma agent sand. Well, fuck won't fabulous over ten thousand biggest you're the machine. You can do it, and it's just this great moniker that I can I can believe in a bird can see and go. Oh burke vertigo he can this weird out of body yet thing But as I listen to you talk about, you know

so many questions about the chapter said to give. I d get lost and confused a lot, but like. Having to almost shut off and take the critique that a lot of pro athletes get and go via. That's not me they're talking about that! That's the black mamba, whatever yeah? But that sounds a lot like dissociation right, maybe its dissociation, but I have a question about an entrance value. Based on this, he talks about a intrinsic motivators. Motivator though I haven't, I read your book at all yet tell me about this one chapter this morning, so I am completely blind, so I apologise venom that be good, yes, very good of you to think, but So my understanding of building intrinsic value is when you do something that you achieve something you overcome, something that you own, but if the black man is doing that how is that go back to kobe, like

if I am you until condo country, which is my your ego. If conduct Oconto does something. amazing. How Leanne get that intrinsic value, or is there a point when Conto and leanne merge and we realize we're the same person? It's a great question talked me into it, for show get the chance to say console on a par gas itself Was someone gave me that name by the way I didn't climate like yours from other, both their games are given to sir. I don't like it much you ve shown by their honeymoon lips, be averted around a little worse carter, sisters, college, buddy, boy, romeo were struck. Your diary, algae feeders, see my dolls, conway feed us and baby walrus baby wars. I love, but you were talking about entrance. Motivated desirest ran so and insurance value in your sense is when do I

to own these yeah exactly right, and so it I'll drive us because achieving them like I know if you can learn to dance drunk you actually, and dance sober sure but until someone says hey, if you could do a drunk, you can do it sober younger. I can do it and sober here was that that's a breakdown in the ego of someone whose living through this moment of with a with a mask on above. No, I don't wanna like drawing, attention to me, but when I'm drunk then I'll draw attention, Because I have an excuse for that behaviour that I think is very similar to hey. I am yes them a genuine. Well, my excuse well, but it's not an excuse in that or permission so, because people ask me like orbit want this crate disassociate personalities order, no, it doesn't in and the reason why is because- and I talk but in chapter three, the book you were the one who is deciding who is going to show up out there like your create,

in this, and its purpose is to be successful on that field of play. For myself, because you know from ever reason. There is a block. That's there now I am wholly unqualified to be someone's therapists. That's not right! Now. I know vanishes from serbia. no candide according to behavioral therapy like cost a lot of them have you, we'll tools in there for me to be using in the work that I do and the coaching and training in all this kind of stuff, but it's that through the pie, or of your intention of you showing up in that domain. With this war. Came here, you're, not you're, here you're not tricking you're you're this course set of qualities and action, its within yourself into not owning them. As you will so there's a great quote by cary grant hollywood legend get right poor. dirt nor poor in Bristol england's where he was born and had-

you're so wanted to get out of where he was from. And paragraphs not have given name gave himself any king and at the end of his career, and he someone who was very open about the fact that he battled mental health and a depression in the early parts and middle parts of his career. and so this whole report is asking about kearny said and is known, being debonair and charismatic and in a well put together- and he said I I could created a pretended to be somebody. I wanted to be and tell I finally became that person or he became me, but at some point we met, there's emerging. That happens, you you feel it within yourself now two birds point, though, ah sasha the anti retired such affairs? She didn't need such a fearsome anymore. She finally became, entertainer that she wanted to become her challenge was that she was growing up in a gospel singing family

in Houston, texas, where she's got a buttoned up, you know, dress at the front of the congregation and that, hard when dad put you into a dance troopers trip with seven other people and I kind of dance the violently and singing lurks it you're not used to this is where it has bianchi doesn't do this such a fierce canada. And so it was the useful method for her to bring out of herself her creative traits and abilities. He wanted and then she's like. I don't need such anymore. More but the outer body experience when you're out there that's your kind of alluding to his like when you get out there and here the machine, it's just It's an allowing to bring these cable is that you have without the consent in the judgment of the audience, not loving you in that moment. Sometimes it's your its sometimes it's a lack words. I'm no therapist, but it's trauma that happens, you're a child where you are denied the access to these things, so like. As a kid, my dad would always my my dad message for any whenever ice

naturally was having a good time. Actually wanted to shine. They just stop showing off yeah and I would be like I would be humbled beyond belief. bold and, like I had almost deny, who I really was guess, who I really was was the guy who wanted to made them uncomfortable and made them uncomfortable and they shut me down and so and then you think of like I mean, as you said, that I think of all the great actors who take names like Brad pitt to coolest name ever. Do you think brad pitt abuse. His real name was his real name, dudley work, lock, chow, It is Google it dudley wore black. Yes, Dudley Are you gonna do about it? I don't know anybody realise. Is that ok is me? Ok, really brad pitt. Well, he has really young its billy pit, louis Philippe. If anyone's ceiling, any willie pits is gonna, be a vulgar movie star willy betz.

With the result that he's a bad example, because with that face bottlenecks here. They dudley where there had been a jolly, does romance common electra. But it's a big big enough We will also become sag. You can have the same name but up, but that strange stay Travis scots real name is method. Men Agrafena will. Obviously Well, you take a look at how, for example, so hers is just anagram. She changed it from Ashley and- and she has a great quote- that I sure, on stage where she says Ashley couldn't see herself do this from from her background, where she and from she couldn't see herself going but holes. He could do this so at what point? Does that merge a bible point or end as it ever not merge for somebody it it? When your cause

alter egos, be bad by the way. Can I first heard of yes because nature tells us that water is only good when I'm floating in the middle the ocean. I don't want another wave to hit me so everything runs on a hyper and hypo level, but when they become powerful, four units were talked about in the book. Is when you're creating this identity. For yourself because there's something about the way the todd showed up a just. Couldn't see himself like when I started my business I was just so insecure and fearful of getting out there and selling myself. I was good at coaching young kids, but going up there making phone calls to put myself some, you know, speeches or some workshops or something like that. I just had a hard time with it, but when I put my head on that pillow at night, I had great resolve that tomorrow was going to be a different day and then at the end, that next day- and I didn't do it- and so I was watching this one episode of opera as I was procrastinating

an extra edge you better hang on and I'm gonna stop you right there hold on okay hold on this is so good. But, as you were saying, the word procrastinating, you called procrastinating, something else in your book. You call it a a. as a standing out was the actual situation. Let me call it like youtube. You basically refer do something as procrastinating for the average person as ike, not realising your your value, not realising you're, not, I would have you set its in fucking chapter two, but it's it's. You call to something else. I'd like that, you didn't use wordpress today in this exact fucking story, you didn't go procrastinating, but why did you go? I dont know and marilla him saying right, but I don't know how many members I dont remember exactly converter lot of our version vote, but I mean there's avoiding behaviour. That's in there. What and behaviour of some like that where you, it was basically because procrastinating- and here is the

I want. Everyone listening to realise we're gonna, take all this and apply it to you. Listening the regular dude, not just berea, but because we gotta remember here's the thing: that's the disconnect is someone maybe listening on the fuck. I want to be an actor. I only be a fucking hip, hop star. That's right will be a dancer, but the thing that is is that I was just like you at one point you listening. I was like how the fuck can I get the things I want. I can't figure out how to get things. I want to say that just giving myself the nickname, the machine is the thing got me there? I gave it myself a long time ago. What I'm saying is accessing the confidence for you in those moments to excel at your best. Ability is what I believe your book is about is giving yourself in moments where, where you feel maybe where you're undermining your your own self, yes, it's getting yourself out of your own way, and so

for you. Listening if you're like, I want to start a landscaping business by don't have the confidence to, I mean, look at the guy doing it. He drives a fucking, big f one. Fifty and he's got a cool fuckin hat checks out his day came from money, how you and the house how the fuck do you want a house like? That's that's where most people get stuck, and that is worth the work programme training, shows up a lot. I don't like that were procrastinating, because sometimes all your brilliance comes out of those moments. Precisely in those procrastinating moments or when you should have been inside the egg as a yoke and when you should grow mother pray. Briggs is pro which is positive right. So if you've got a certain way, is it good? like your saying it allowed as regards any such about. This rose like like no wasn't a professional across europe. but I will tell her the whole story you're! Here, I'm I'm, I'm I'm not doing the things that I should

it had to do in order to get where I wanted to go, and you have just said something bert that is really import language. I want people to try to like monitor for themselves. We we use things like I or you and those things right. There can actually be it in its given to us by spiritual traditions, religious traditions, self help, personnel, leadership positions as well, where we think that there is one you there, one you, because I can't put you under the microscope and find you we have the rules that we will there's many sides of ourselves that are out there, and so, when you said you know, there's something that I'm I'm getting in, I'm getting in my way, I got my way so fucking much there's something about me. and I say no there's something about the wants that you have like. I really don't I have done over almost twenty thousand hours of one one coach wonderland, that's not group stuff

four stages: do, unlike all the even podcasting stuff one on one and not just with people that are struggling to start up, like you said, truly elite. Human beings that have got into a zenith in their career and the language that we use creates our world. That's what human beings Uniquely, do we use words and those words when repeated creates a reality, absolutely new yeah and so here. I am sitting on the couch and I'm not doing what I want this, but I wanted to be more. I wanted to impact more kids and I wasn't making those calls, and so I was watching this observer Oprah. It's obvious. Favorite episode, there's this lady johnny shocks who comes on who had purchased a pair of Oprah shoes during one of her, auctions. When she sells for stuff

since nineteen ninety seven and I'm watching this an opera calls her out, insists she's, got a story. and so this lady was struggling in her life and she bought a pair just put them in the corner of the room and every day that she didn't feel like going on. She would go and stand in Oprah's shoes, oh wow, and in that moment everything clicked as like. Oh wait: I did the same thing on a plate football. I was embracing these other heroes of mine and Geronimo isn't built to go and win in this role, and so I created super richard and richard's. My first name, I have always gone by todd and super richard was the composite of three of my other heroes, superman because I was being indecisive, so the trait I needed was to be decisive, be the man of the. and then Joseph Campbell wrote the power of men, the heroes journey about all that I saw him on bill lawyers. Pbs book, especially in nineteen. Eighty seven talking with george Lucas about

star wars, and all this end, So I I loved his ability to articulate- and I wasn't I my words were all over the place, so I want to be more articulate and then the third one was just fundamentally are confident human being who shaped shifted better than anyone. Benjamin franklin, I mean the man had sat phenomenal careers in a lifetime, and so Those are my three and I went to lens crap, in west edmonton mall, the largest mall in the world at the time, and I bought a pair of non prescription glasses so that I could do reverse superman shook put on the back It has to be the mild mannered clark kent, which was as alter ego, as you alluded to at the beginning, and most people think the alter ego. The powerful version now superman needed the ultra go to kind of operate in the world and not be discovered and so I put on those glasses and in the end, what I discovered again. I was just when you are desperate to do something you will find ways to do it, and I just happened to find a very productive way

but say, and those glasses became a shield to what I was concerned, but which was the judgment and rejection of other people. S super richer, gonna phone calls and then the final part was super. Richard was specifically hired to be the advocate for taught stuff he cared about taught and he wanted todd to go out into the world and do something, but he had a heart. And because of trauma I was at the age of twelve raped at a church camp by two men over the course of a couple of days and it tore me apart. Yeah cause, I grew up in a very loving my. I won a watery on parents and never told anyone until about six years ago I carry that with man. Was that a book I'm so sorry laugh now Okay, I was like how did I miss? No? No, no, it wasn't in the book. It wasn't in the book, because when I was right I couldn't return because actually bert I, when I finished the book, was when I

out publicly. I needed to go through the last, because I didn't want like to be a wounded. Those are not there. I was done with your story. Believes leon believes urban, but I was date raped in college. I envy you talking about but then I know I know about it. You know so I understand what you're talking about about having something really traumatic happen, and that's not. define who you are now I had a certain point. Time decided- If I let that have power over me, I've let ten minutes of my life control, everything that I'm doing you and I'm not gonna do them. So it was a tragic horrible. Ten minutes and it took me years years to get to the place, where I could say wait you don't own me for ten minutes of my tie. You don't with me any more, but it didn't I wasn't like next day, yeah that was years later, and some therapy but you'd die. really understand. Not. I dont that my story here that was too This in my life was one moment, came up. That's horrific and-

ireland violating shiver will ensure that are not offer them. Both. You learn all the gamma, yet my charges is that they videotaped it and it still to this day very popular videotape in the pitiful community, and I get shoaled with it weekly they send gifts to my email underneath the name of sabre chrysler. You you email me and I'll open it up and they'll be the chief of it and it happens frequently, so that's been taken that many of their past go I run from you to solve and so home. I know I've built up and I even have like software on my computer from the fbi. They ve tried to like track people down, but anyway started We will see what I'm just like. Oh sorry, but but this is look at as extraordinarily powerful thing, because its it shows just from my own experience, the incredible ah resiliency the human suffering, you re right and then, when you really do want something new you'll find away like our creative.

Agitation- and I say this in the book- is at the other day like whether someone uses an altar ego or not. Like that's, that's fine, but if I invite everyone into, The idea is that our real superpower, human beings, is our creative imagination and I will leave you to change the way we think you're an hour we and we lose it at a young age Some of that is just biological, so, from the age of six months to seven years of age were in. What's The fate of brain state case of theta is where the in flow stateless lives. So there's beta. This is waking mind it's kind of where were probably out right now and we might go into alpha, which is like being really fun, this is like when you're sitting down your coming up a sets, you're gonna get into a bit of a groove, not quite in flow but you're in a groove. Your focused time and and feta, is when three hours later you're, like oh shit, look at all this like you fell into the state of their game, and that's when you're accessing your most creative side of you. Now,

it's from six months to seven years of age, they live in theta. Why cause? We need them to be sponges to soak up as much information as possible when you're in theta. Your frontal lobe, isn't really activated your critical thinking, skills not judging something your reasoning, something up. Little kids get really do it anyway. Right. That's why they're like why the hell did you do that, like what were you thinking? They worked in the context of an apple. What So then, at seven and a half girls start developing that frontal lobe activity quicker. We also start to develop a sense of me when the identity starts. To show up. There is no ideal for a five year old. They don't have an identity, yet you develop an identity and and all these creative and playful things that you did as a kid when I was five jumping off coaches superman, then I'm going to play nurse with my younger sister being after and then I'm out and out in the farm. You know doing something else. If my brother's trying to trying to be my favorite hockey player patrick, what was my favorite gully, the marshal canadians

and so- and we do all these things. Why cause I'm like off? I can be like Patrick LA I can stop anything or if I can be superman I'll, be able to jump six inches further then someone else, and so we naturally? Do it to sort of see what more could come out of us? If I wasn't this todd guy with these limitations, and we forget about it as we grow older, some people, don't like you did the machine you built it or with kobe, when I built the black mama with him, because he was going through an ego death. He was going through an ego death with the trial that he was going through and he that sees and he was gonna- be destroyed specifically when it went into the garden or when wanting to play against the celtics right and so we needed to build a different

intrigued. He had originally reached out to my mentor, harvey and harvey said to him know you're going through an ego death and this other guy that I've worked with, and he was being very nice kind of putting me as on a pure level. He focuses on identity based performance cause, that's kind of what I do as I focus on identity based performance, because when I change your identity, I can. I can shift someone very quickly because your habit, your attitude, your beliefs, you're behaviors, are stacked on your identity. How you see yourself, there's there's a beer. you I mean it's it's funny. It is it is who I am on stage for the most comments, most comics swam, I'm on stage not who I am off stage you'll find that most comics I'll use an example of just sullen random tom segura. It's boring as fuck off stage like the most boring person to talk to random that you it's and then on stage he is he's, I wouldn't say, is dynamic, but he's ok, yeah so like, but

in bid it, but he is. He is definitely on the basketball court. As when you talk about it on stage, he is very talented off stage. He will not give you what he'll give you on stage. Should he yeah so low that tell the fans that. Because the I think case I am so here's the language I'd, give you get so there's a netflix special with brine bosworth. Remember the boss, you again nickname so. Ah his wife taught me how she hates the boss needed boss and in know they'd sitting in a diner, and he talks about like when he's a norman oklahoma and it's you know a thursday, and you sit eating with this teammates and people are like the bars and you'd immediately snap into that character mode, and he was just on all the time, and so, if I was coaching em, I would a u turn to them and say: oh, you want the bars he showing up at one o, clock

saturday, down to four, old house don't miss it. So it's this it's this disconnecting of it, so that people can see you as more than just this character right. That's what happened and that's what trapped you know. I don't know everything about Chris Farley, but had been one of things that would have trapped. Chris is he's a flying through the jester all of the time through this deep, seated need to think that he has to be satisfying these people any doesn't incur it this nice boundary system, and even like me, I mean I'm a challenger type. When I'm coaching and I get is, I have some big egos and summits a crack through some of these hard exteriors with with them, so they can get to like, pure honesty with you go. Oh that's. The thing, that's kind of in the way. That's the perception that you have your time for like this just look changing.

you look at something can change the thing? Yes, so now I'm done working And- and I still my my my glasses that I wear that's what I'd it's just part of a uniform and then but I have a bracelet that sits on a hook just outside the door going into my house made by molly and sophie my tool ten and tonight now and says embassy charlie is my little guy. That's got Oh my wife's name and then the words only love and rest says only love is because radars, my boy was born. I was struggling cause, these are the straw What was coming home to roost there? I was not able to hold it down any longer totally, and it was because What triggered it was my son's birth. was very bad. My wife is on. It was murdered He sees action, she lost four and a of blood.

The flatlining charlie comes out cord around his neck, he's flatlining and I'm just sitting there going I'm going to be a single dad to two little girls, and you know it worked out great, but Then I had this business partner who was trying to trap me as well, and so it is that feeling of entrapment, like that's the thing that will trigger the because of my address experience that I had only danger being trapped, so I pick up molly and sophie so we live in west. elsie coastal chelsea pierce and I'm putting them both into the carriage molly's foreign sophie's, two and a half and molly mildest- suggests we heard default modus happiness. Leg and she put your hand up to my face and she says tat. Are you happy now, and I said yeah, I'm happy why and she's like? Oh because you would yelling at us lot like it lately and it's making us sad, and I was like I was in that moment I was like. I will not give these kids second hand trauma. I will not

and so that was my process of me fixed starting to notice. This was in up on march fifth, twenty seventeen. So I now going back to this bracelet. So that's so I wrote on a piece of paper that night and I still have it and it's where it's only love. I will only act through only love, so that's the bracelet and I, when I'm putting it on but once it gets to the knuckle porter my hand, this is my ritual. I imagine my dad and MR rogers because MR rogers, the exact opposite of a challenge personality and I of loving mr rod, yeah and, and I'm like that's the spirit of the characters that bring up, then I finish bring it on my hat or my wrist, and I stop it and I'm gone into now dad mode on retiring that challenge or coach guy does need to be there, and- and this allows me to play with some new traits and new some new attributes of being patient and kind and having it from my mannerisms a little bit

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use it as a word, for it had to be thoroughly define. What does that mean really in its entirety and I keep adding to that definition and sir, times thing shift away from that definition. But for me having that focus, which I don't I never did walter ego or anything like that. I think that's a wonderful tool to to overcome, What you believe are your limitations, but because this is what you believe is not true and I think a lot of you to grow up in such a punitive, pattern of talking to themselves and punitive way see you didn't, do again de Deus see see what you you ve. that event day and if you say for me, I go talking to myself. That way is out of integrity, some not gonna, talk to myself that way, business clearer what you're, what you're talking about as it is I have a clearer way to say

Oh Oprah, Oprah embodies everything that I'm looking for someone I'm gonna step in Oprah shoes so that I can all those things that one day all some clear weight of Israel, and one day you know, that's all british ass right one day you out there, oh, because it s lucky sweatshirt to get on an airplane like africa's. It become second nature as a way of changing the way. You think, that's what it actually, I think changes the pathways in your brain. I just think that, because I think that, but I mean the things that I worked on when I was really try to learn that integrity, peace, I dont, think about anymore. Most of the time is second, nature yeah and even visualizing stuff. I worked on visualizing a lot and my early twenties and I Go on like minute lighting energy to protect myself, I'd like sit down, lies myself in a bubble of like gold jake

and I will finish clean push you're right. I will push the energy that I created. That came out of my core into the space so that I cleared negative. The outer space and I dont Do that anymore, because I think my being does that automatic? Did it the other night? Well, because something came in the yap did the other night because something overpowered it and our own woke up, our entire family woke up in different states in different countries, at the exact same fucking time with a fucking bad dream, panic attack that there were. I knew that dream. I don't cups Why I woke up so- and I was really scared and our oh, some things energetically in in my space. I wasn't it room than him because he was snoring and our daughter was here. We were on vacation and all Three of us had the same feeling at the same time of night, and I did that. I did that again. Where I surrounded myself as round him and, above all, and I put

all the shit out of our hotel room, and our right back to sleep, but I mean you're, brain is so that we don't even know now I have been of what our brain. Can I've been in the space for twenty seven years mean either am everyday. Don't you absolutely one of the things that I had done to help kind of scale, the p, catholics, selling, its real madrid cause. I went built up like parlor performance programme was. the world of psychology and sociology, even though their in classified as the sciences, there are least there. The least science you have all the science is so neuroscience was actually just burgeoning at the time and so brought in neuroscientist help. As I hear some patterns that really work for these athletes. I'm working with you explain why and so I indexed very heavily in the very beginning. Around science and neuroscience to explain these things? That's why try to do inside the book is it? Has there been

these studies done on all to regos, no, of course not, but the component principles as to why this thing works. There have been studies done on these things, that's wise, say intense nowadays, so important or the attitude of playfulness. For me the attitude of playful nasal heads, the attitude of playfulness is the final golden key that unlocked zone inflows. Tat. God is right because just look at your children Yes, that's what you got a yell at them nine times to come to dinner, because there in favour their low in zones yeah and there being playful, and so it's like it's you, unwittingly doing us. When you said the machine there's a kind of a playful little That's their and it's that thing that bring its that spirit that comes out of you through that use avatar to help you go. Do this thing on stage it was it so much I mean I could do an entire absence just on me and my nicknames, but it it represents good before

we say that will do you remember the other day whose yesterday, when talk to you about play the do you remember you help way to me is the closest you get the god or ended. The flow of the universe citys is play is the key to everything when we got married, one of my friends said: ok, you realize your marrying like a nine year old teenager like every days can be play here. so you're gonna have to know that if it's time to write the checks for the bills, it ain't him as he just stays in play, but that's why he so good. at his art is cause he stays in play as much as it can. I I think play is the simplest clearest way to describe freedom like freedom, that sounds stupid, but freedom from light. The punitive thoughts in your head, freedom from ego, ego yeah yeah yeah play there We go in play when you say pretend phenomena.

geronimo and you're gonna be a vulgar han as they were, even in the same facility. But who cares sorry and run you guys know excited about play because I have always believed play is key layers falconer? No one talks about it causes seems such a simple term and word child it. How can I apply this right now on my ambitious goals towards I'm trying to I'm like oh play, I got a lot of reps. I can yeah- maybe you know, you're, not reading something, I'm looking at the chapters viewpoint but you know you're in the right you know, You know you're where you're supposed to be in life, and I don't mean in a project or writing paragraph or whatever, but general when your life, when your life mostly is effortless, which is what play is, then you know you're on the right path. I was talking about this too. I thought yesterday, as it's really brave for someone to realize when their path needs to pivot and pivot with the path, and if you do that properly, that path becomes very effortless and that's all about

having in plenty that's actually mental toughness. So mental toughness is your ability, your ability to be flexible and adaptable, despite what you're getting a circumstances, Did you do want mental toughness for twenty seven years? Headed? That's what it actually is as a definition. Now that's my definition. I get people know after all, these wraps, like no my People like their mental toughness. The reasons from italy talk is because it doesn't matter what's happening in the game. They can still adapt. They must still be flexible. So if you go in thinking, I think we're going to score a touchdown on this opening drive in and we're gonna stop the defense or stop the offense on the next one and like if it doesn't go that way and you break mentally liking without you're just your mentally week, so it the enemy of most like developing, This resiliency and mental toughness is adhering to an expectation,

Everything has to always go this way and that's where is the ability you ve worked with such a lead athletes? I'm afraid that some one may say I am no kobe bryant who who is a different beast. You can you? Can you explain the leonardo? I think she knows the eccentricities of just how different of an athlete how different about person his brow. was just walking through like the way everyone else operated the way toby worked here. Level of at at pretty much most of the elite. Levels of you know it s really not just sport, but no business climate. or in a public figures. Entertainers is just really their level of consistent discipline that they had its really remarkable. consistency at the fundamentals

The consistency and commitment to us. Quote from one of my other, for I can show you. I think you're gonna summarised the best. This guy will go down as a legend in his sport as well, and his pursuit was to make sure that any when on his team, knollys team, but the the other team would His responsibility was to show them just how much further they need to go to even sniff his cleats, and now I'm going to go out there and show you, and that meant even showing up his own team. it sometimes, and so that is a super eager for him but it drives that performance, but it all oh, is why that person was the first one, the field practice and the last one to leave and practice and being holy unsatisfied with getting seven out of ten in the upper right hand, corner of the looping kick from.

twenty five yards away from the net. If we're on the soccer pitch to know, I'm not me until it's ten out of ten tiger woods exhibited the exact same thing so there's just switch in them. That is very, very different. That is not something that I can cope. Someone to. it's like em about how you, but you can catch them to deal with how the that affect their behaviour, affects other people in the things people say to that person because as I will say, I'm I'm no kobe Brian, I'm no tiger woods yeah, but I I I definitely am obsessed with work and working as hard as I can and making sure I take on the bigger thing and do the bigger thing and and and try to actualize, bigger dreams and there's a pushback. I don't think I will say this candidly comedians dune do not and do not celebrate ambition or are collected

We got into comedy to sit on the couch watch tv and write a joke about it. Yeah and that's that's just us and I think things shifted and changed at a certain point. I realized I had kids and I needed to out ambition myself, a memorial before we. I get you to answer that, but the one part of the fate of the machine that I loved was the day. I got that I told a story on rogan that moniker that moniker elevated me, Joe rogan, said from this day, Joe rogan. When I respect the job for anyone in this world new who he was meaning. I just had a profound respect room but when he said from this day forward, he'll only be referred to as the machine and he needs italian onstage. While he helped me to a higher standard, I was going to work harder tell a story until it got good, I was be. I was going to fail and he gave me a safety net. I was going to say Oh you of these audiences until the story got good, but also she's oc he's my guy he's our guy we're gonna love

and all of a sudden, the machine gun. Oh, I got a really close placed my heart. I went down the fuck machine on the fucking machine on the fucking machine, and so I tethered myself to a nickname. I gave myself a rogan, really gifted me an end and book, but talk about the push by because our once I go back to landscaping. Guy Who see the corridor? Eight other do right now, listening to this podcast going like I could be one this campaign. Nor could I, before you go back. that what were never let him talk. Yes, we are like how to better bert nuclear like on a day, because you know I was just getting so. I'm from rural small town in in georgia, you're right now, really blue collar so what you just said about being consistent with the fundamentals. Any person on the planet can work at They may not function the way kobe does, but everybody improves our consistency with fundamentals every person on the planet. Yes, so if that

is what you saw in these high. Achieving people oppressed. at home. Wanting to start a landscaping, company can hear, then go maybe a smack consistency me back and focus on that yes right, as so simple yeah yeah. Very and so going back to your question, the landscaping guy who sit narras I. How can I apply this? That's my favorite thing is the instagram, the aims that I get from people who read the book or listen to the audio book in the leg, like I'm, not a pro athlete or whatever, but we all have done it men and we all have different roles that we play an end most everyone has aspirations that they might feel like they're, not fulfilling. Yet and I'm simply giving them extremely practical tool. That's my favorite thing I mean I come from.

on the foreman ranch- and there is a saying my dad would say in its common vernacular amongst the farming community- is when there's an idea, that's just bad he'll say: will that dog won't on? Yes right, asbury park south as well. and so I always index towards being very practical with people, because that was all my biggest issue as someone who was young and try about myself was I get around personnel self help books, I'm like to these people even work with being or just regurgitating someone else's ideas and the regurgitate is it came from someone else. Did that person even where they on the field of play, like I'm not get me fucking started charlatans all soil instagram is, is people regurgitating fucking ideas? and as someone who invented the ip yeah its heart I I have. I have an incredible legal team and I'm known in my industry as just dont pope the bare rang like don't take my stuff and

Finally, on my way, herebert one of my closest friends, vacation together We had a massive falling out because he took my content and this is something I helped mentor and said dodge eyes their pathway and any didn't need to do it, and so yes, the charlatans, but This is. When I went to your good friend, rachel Hollis house, I did her podcast, which is why I'm here really as well when she opened the door and we met she's like the cmu funpunk, ask research that I dont you you're not afraid for punches, that other people- and I said no- I throw punches at other. I threw open to that. ideas and if someone's face happens to get in the way of that bad idea, that's on them, we poles and waterbed so people. fuck that is, that is a great one that's a title for a book who calls in water behind side, joam garral, my goodness, that's a good one and I would say

excellent waterbed in on this girl. I know I know- and I think I know has been under this scheme, so I ain't expert has highly doors being practical and useful for will enter so I'm on the field with real human beings trying to do hard things every single day, and I know how to translate that to the landscape for who sitting inside of the truck with seven other dues waiting for the job or whatever and awe, and so in the book. I give the method away in the book like it's there like no call to action to come and sign up for my workshops, rational something I got its there. If you did come to something that I believe to be applied, a hundred percent yeah. If I didn't, I just feel the judgment of my own father, like you know that an plant seeds to to create a harvest not just for ourselves but for other people as well. Will you be full of shit if, at the end of it, you said now come to my my seminar cause I've only given your hair is now that's the way it rang. That's how some people hide their stuff, though that's how people their charlatan ism is that you know they're like ok,

that makes sense like you have a business and so you go there and then it's like well, no, you didn't get. We think there's also these seven other doorways you gonna walk through as well. Are you got everything in the boat, but we made you think he didn't Now you came, you guys is all in the book. The oil that is not an integrity is noted. The butler problem I have I am, I dont think people see this in me, but I'm consistently searching I'm always trying to look for answers to things that are broken in me. Right, like a mistaken. I love, love I say I say a couple names was more than this by love purity. I love under human. I love campaigns. I love david goggins. I love rogan love the way they inspire, there's more jacko there, so many great great great great names of guys who are job. A great example who takes what he learned in the middle. harry what he yeah figured out in the field, and that applies to business leaders, yes, and and companies it so

fucking brilliant? That's why I'll read his boy campaigns is audio autobiography. Is I don't? I mean this with love? I dont know if he intended to be a self help book put cut, but he just talks about the things that Broken in him the way he fixed them and then you can sit and I will listen to it- on one of the longest jogs of my life because I was like I could just it wasn't done yet, but that's what I love about your book. There's there some books that are like time to kick ass and take names, and then you start listening. You like when I do this yeah. I read you the shit, I'm looking for stuff, where I go work, for for all the answers were in the book I want I want to. I want to hear things and learned, but I I want to connect with. You don't wait or to an actual by a bunch of new stuff too. In order to get your quick fix yeah, I want tell me what I can do and apply like you talked about totems and totems are very important to me. Since I was a kid, I can name all my

items ones: yoda, totem of protection of ireland, hours, totem. I have a bunch of totems that I that I connect with, but you talk about items of the bush. Well, and you would mean you take a look at the world that we live in right now. It saw its lost a lot of its meaning rituals like we used to be pulled, through as a as female there'll be always typically in a try of a ritual of being a woman right, and so there was there was a very important day and then there was a rebirthing for you and then same thing with boys becoming a man. There's a ritual on that day that cover you a mud, let it dry, then they put your front of the tribe, they put a bone to the head of your cock and they cut your dick with a rock and if any of the mud on you,

relax. You're, not a man. Are you talking about Google? It we have authority, we advise when the girls get the period were big party, which is not the same. Not a person that told me that story also gave me a souvenir as a knife. Thank you telling me that the achieves knife, so impertinent, honest or it could have been a Charlatan. We will see what google but my point is like those those rituals and so the toward him and your two facts that chapter in the book, its kind like when we're getting through the method of you know we are building this identity for yourself There's a chapter on naming things. I give people lots of practical. Ways to come up with your version of the machine or your version of super richard or social affairs like this, no cause I've I've gone through that process. What people and giving yourself a name and in its important for your boy, and do that as well, because the moment the hard part of

movies, makes him so scary is when the evil thing hasn't been seen. Yet we don't know what it looks like, but the moment com, into the view the camera relax. It creates form and substance too now ass I go now. We know how to kill the thing, no matter what it looks like it's. Actually, it's I thought it was already this big need to attack a different. But when it's in the shadows we need to pull through out of the shadows, and we need to give the enemy the name as well, and then we to give ourselves the name and that's important as it creates form and structure, things and then I want to make things happen in the real world. That's why there's torrents or effects or uniforms that we do that we talk about in the book. And so like my bracelet in the deep meaning that is imbued inside of that bracelet. When I put it on- and you will actually talk beautifully about, you know the golden light you talk about with some, but with a with golfers. I talk about the hula hoop power. So when you think about where your golf ball is, there should be the it should be sitting is out of a Hullo hoop and the ring of it is just outside of your ball and you can

go inside of that hulu hoop of power is also good of special color that comes out and goes up into. sky. That's your color gang and when you step inside of it, it's only pure commitment. your decision making happens before you? You never get inside that Hullo hoop. Unless you have made decision on this, is the club I'm gonna use this is the speed or tempo or shot. I'm gonna make it that all the decision making has to and because now you're going into execution mode the commission, both as an athlete, is when trust yourself, you ve on all the rattleborough you ve done all the work and so now you have such a great fucking feeling when you allow all the work, and you have no thought and you step into the field, and you go we're ready for this. Let it go added teacher that uses to make things happen. Then let things happen so you do work to set it up. Please let it got great one yellows make things

happen. Then let things happen to teacher used, say you drink and muddy water. Let no one can see through not reckoned money, water crisis that thing you at about bring the fear out of the shadows and and that making at a substantive substantive thing is really powerful, tube as I think a lot of times, people risk. the unknown and until you sit down and really evaluate what you're scared of and really pinpoint it? Not that you think? No, we human beings are Where did the under a hundred dollars and end his wired into us? That's why we're wired fur negativity patterns, it's just power built is because, when we're out in the savanna ends were trying to find food- and we see that bush over their Russell s, like we'd, better fighter light, and then the little bunny comes out of it and not the sabre to tiger right well, it's because we need to prepare ourselves for pain before, We can go after pleasure, furs idle, and so it survival mode for sure. Talk about talk about

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I have to be candid, only listen like half of it but cause cause. I'm like I'm like I I like you're at a time. I don't have a ton of time I was listening to your book and there is a partner. I realized the bravery it takes to expose yourself or to put yourself up up up up for slaughter. Is is crazy vulnerable compared to the comfort in not challenging yourself in just sitting that to that one person if you that landscaper look over to your left, that one person who enjoy it's telling you you're nothing, you're, not gonna, be anything as a matter of fact, I'm gonna get too tall boycott is at launched. You want one and hold you down. I don't know where I heard that your book, that was on the one or one- and I was thinking fuck man, Was there I've been there not been on the other side too? Where did the negative shits written about me yet? But I've been there, where,

where there is a comfort in being the troll. I think used word troll yeah, so like in chapter three, I talk about one more sinister things that holds my clientele back. Were clients backer rethink humans back this? Is it yes, it is there's kind, three main hidden forces, one them being tribal narratives and this It is that there are certain groups that were a part of that whatever idea you have a what it means to be an american or canadian, a jew, a muslim, a woman a graduate from ah sorry? Sorry? I can't help, but I can be. I am. Maybe you have to be, please. You know and up or what it means to be from middle of nowhere right. That's why the very dedication of my book, it says for all the people from the middle of nowhere, this one's for you cause. I grew up town of eighty two

will incorporate smallest, statistically the town in in the province of Alberta and I felt an official under three people for medicine out by the way crazy, but I think I know actually a ton of people for medicine that that these tribal narratives can hold us back. So what does it mean to be soldiers. I've done a lot of work with the military people as well, because there- using we're trying to turn our backs? This brings things together, so they have a uniform. And the? U s military, does a great job when you're picking up your from your pamphlet of what it means to be a marine and here's our credo. This is what we stand for, and these are the other legends that came before you as well. So now there's a whole story around what it means to put on this uniform and boy. Do you ever feel like you're a stand up straighter when police uniforms do the same thing like if I, if you were, if you were to be put into a police, uniform you're, going to stand differently, you'll actually start to think differently. What's going on, there is psychological phenomenon called in clothed cognition.

And even gotten responsible, enclosed cognition and what it is. You'll love this, and it explains the machine in many ways we as human beings tell stories about the world around us articles artifacts so because of that, when you put on something whatever association you have that thing you will actually naturally adopt the traits in characterised of whatever meaning you ve given to that article of clothing, if you possibly take it off yeah, I d clothe cod mission, that's right definitely become the machine. I love my fucking short all yeah. Actually I was assured on because I don't like you sound like air and said

I have an orgasm. I rip it off and I go that's right. Baby you're, just being kind, you're, a kind soul, so sweet, so sweet, so carrying seven close cognition. So these enclosed cognition is play is well, it can be. It can also trap people so going back. So I'm talking to four at at fort bragg army rangers, there's a couple of navy seals that were there, but it's mostly arm army rangers and green berets that were there and then some of the other enlisted folks is what two hundred fifty three hundred guys in the room and and I'm talking to them about like what does it mean to be like hey? What does it mean to have this uniform and then a bust or a stat that in the job again talk about throwing punches, my job is to make them feel uncomfortable. Mike okay, do you know what I what job or role in culture and our society has the highest rates of high rates of domestic violence and divorce, military and police as concept lease

now I'm not gonna, excuse away negative behaviour, but let me just play this out for you, because of enclosed cognition what it means to wear this uniform and this in the meaning that they ve given uniform is so that you can go and do what a certain job out their yeah right, follow. Orders do difficult things, see difficult things came Now the sudden you're done your ship for the day you go home, you're still wherein those ten boots. and you still wearing that uniformity walkin threshold that door, don't you and then you wonder why it's difficult, for you to switch into something else in that home. So what. Encourage. All of you to do is to find a new uniform. What's your dad, uniform, and our encourage you to if you ve got if you can't kit change before you go home, or any one comes to you, if you can

changed. Go into your phone booth. Have your phone booth moment and put on that next cape for yourself that next uniform or get changed. You know at the barracks or whatever and then go and now you've got another uniform. So I talk with this. One of the top guys at fort bragg comes up, asked me to come around the corner and he's crying and he we go outside the building cause. He can't list as people see him cry and he's like when I go home I saw my wife and I've misleading in the same room for over eighteen months, restores is, where's. He has used our arguments of will and my kids want nothing to do with me. There, nine and eleven source in the book- and I I need to fix this- I need to fix us and you just made everything, makes sense to me because you write a go home. I have I have dinner with my uniform on all this, so

gave my email and said what to stay in touch like just just implement this just test the self, be curious and and see what happens so emailed me seven weeks later, any just one. Let you know the last three weeks my kids render the door now be to see me. and I'm sleeping in the same bed as my wife now for the last two weeks, because I have a pair of tan cargo shorts and a specific golf shirt that but that I, where every day from american eagle outfitters and that's my dad uniform- and I sat there with you- know, your ideas that you presented with and I added the traits and qualities in the attributes, just like there's a creedle for the military, either creedle for who's, the guy who shown up because I don't want to be, the same military dad that I had before, where I was parked out- and I was made few about so that include cognition- is. is a part of this process like I'm not trying. That's my we're going back to like the charlatans they're, trying to invent things for you to do that, actually isn't tell your brain structure,

This is just a natural trait human beings. After we're storytelling beings, then we are that's the emotional part of ourselves adding meaning to the things that we do not get me one fund a sort of work on this, yeah? I read your believe now now, god now so there's a lady in our universe. Minnesota ones, do a study on and cold cognition and these kids six to eight years of age. And they had this a puzzle box set up with a bunch of padlocks on it came, and then they had keys to unopened up all the locks keys didn't work though, and they were going to test the kids' grit and resilience. so they bring in these kids individually hand the keys and say hey, let's see how fast you can unlock this puzzle box, and so they would track all the results from a list of individual kits. Then they brought in a rack of clothing, specifically batman, costumes and dora, the explorer costumes, and then they brought in different kits and they said, have pick your favorite uniform.

Question put it on, then they gave him the keys and said that's the task over there get after chuckled result thing that was surprising for them. Was they weren't prepared to discover the vocalize self talk of the kids so how they're talking about themselves as their due it so kids, as are trying it in their own plain clothes, would say things like not get a puzzle This is too hard. I cant figure this out and they would quit. The kids are wearing batman, cautions door, the export russians, would say things like batman would never quit. So I'm not going to quit dora the explorer always finds a way. So I'm going to find a way, this association to loop, this back to something we talked about earlier, their ident. He was saved by the veneer of this little shield that they had and they could play through now. This other thing owing to is there also smiling a lot more, no they're not having any success. There smiling as a re, going as making the way through it through being playful, the kids

being judged by the other people cause us the perception, I'm being judged by someone else and I'm terrible at this. I need to find an excuse as to why I can't do it. That's why vocalize, I can fringes of I'm stupid. This is too hard is everything's, but I am I am this, I'm terrible at this I'm stupid. How can I not figure this out? The other kids are alike. There have fun with it they're failing results, aren't changing. So I go back to authentic self. Very common term of their authentic self is very common term yeah how to surf, and how could you argue with it burt because it sounds wonderful, but I'm telling you it's bullshit yeah. It is bullshit because who is the authentic self, the kids who are sitting there in the plainclothes or the kids that were sitting there with the batman, cautions dora the explorer caution, reality. Was there both being authentic with what ever they were associating themselves with funding

will always act through whatever they associate themselves with your identity shapes your reality. So what I do is I build the identity for clientele to help them win on that field of play, for themselves and ninety nine point. Ninety nine percent of the time I need to add a sprinkling of playfulness in there because it just hopes hours I say lay so I say, in itself, not because I'm thrown the entire term out it's that the world, I've instagram everyone else tries to make. You believe that there is one self. There is no one self. I can't put any of us under the micro, and find a self? It's not there. What is there is energy. The universe is made of energy. We must be energy energy, for me, transmitted in human form is traits characteristics, abilities and because that's true when I'm creating a self for dad. What are those traits trade senegalese. I wanna help get out of me now: I'm not if I'm

to being a dad will add on his borrow the mannerisms and traits of some one else, as my form of a picture in my own mind, of what I want to move towards that will bring those traits out onto that feel apply and then eventually, like we discussed before I become that thing I become unconsciously competent, is like a road map. You really like a road map two to becoming that person you are well known. I was young. I did something similar because I thought the integrity peace. I started calais Staying sayings lyrics from music quotes from famous p. When I put it all in one note book that I call my bible and I thought every thought- and this note book is what I want to embody- and it came from all replace from the beatles from the eagles from Ben franklin from gone from all these places where aware this is my road map to get to the person that I want to be

you're, not there now, but those where I want to be so. Have I the crazy things very light. It was there. It was there the whole time was no. It was there because you could have come up with the idea that unless it was in you, it was just disorganized and it was improperly presented to myself right I was, I was impressed really presenting myself to myself spinal at full of shit and every now, and then you gotta untangle used by the web and pull the strings to make the bracelet you want. But the dress you on I'm just trying to work Not that I like what I like, I like what you said. One time I don't know where it is the thing I've got, if truth be told, I'd like to listen. Audio books and stuff on, as I go to sleep so sometimes I wake up in the middle of night go at the fucked by listening to predicting, doing your behaviour because you want to predict the outcome from other people yet a case to trap self. That's what is it tat self

so there's an app there's. If there's a picture inside of chapter three, where I say there's the extraordinary world, I'm fuckin woken up a chapter, three of don't rush job to three twice yeah, so the extraordinary world in the ordinary world. The dividing line between the two and the ordinary world, feels ordinary, because You know what you're capabilities are. Are you know what you can do, but not showing up for you in this space and the reason why you're maybe not doing what, want to do is I found so many people are doing. things that they're doing because you're trying to appease other people, your truck to fit in in some way and that's an outside in approach. Socially, you, doing it. So you can get some sort of response out here and you I love you ever operate. That way I have in my past as well. It never works.

Note four hits in the silver book I dunno what it's called or the war of art? Yes, it's called the definition of a hack, the definition of a hack. It is a brilliant type in war of ours. definition of a hack is when your behaviors are are done solely to appease the marketplace yeah, because you think that will help, I think, is about people. Needing to feel like a hack rights, hierarchical e. Ironically, I can't write articles hierarchically. He writes what he imagines will play well in the eyes of others. He does not ask himself what do I myself want to write? What do I think, is important? Instead, he ass what's hot, and what can I make a deal for there are so many hacks ominous simply leave it at that. There are so many hacks in this world and especially when you get in,

There are so many fucking hacks I will say that defiantly, not a hack, only because I've done some really unpopular thing and I and I and I've been criticized for them and I've spoken and said. Stupid shit and I've over shared- and I m, that is why that is that one sentence. When I read that, then, when I heard you say it again, I went I watched people craft there in their narrative to appease whether it is fancy or comments section or the industry or or a producer they craft their narrative to be something so they won't get. oh back or so that they can sell a product and I have consistent

and I m, or or or so that as a person above them will complement them because they feel like they're therein line. Ah, I dive live by by the definition of that. When I heard you say that it connected sake, it's one thing that connects would be very very. In my charge. Yeah yeah, that's not true, self and then in the story. Just to finish off. That idea is what westwards you feel like is you feel very heroic when you showed in an assurance rope and the reason is because it's more popsicle global gums and re harris has villains, keep going absolutely legates, but it's because. you ve intentionally chosen how you want to open up because it's what you want to bring to it. It's what you know press feel too just as in the work of art there of the hack like they what they write, what they want to write and some of the greatest ideas are because someone stayed committed to this

de. I want to share the world and have one person reads it. One person reads it, but this is what I want to get out into the world This is the story that I want a tall and you can detect and you can see, and you can feel those people that put up themselves. Cross youtube or social media or newsletters or in written word whatever. The form is that very my show up that like, there's a residents that goes beyond the voice is that it somehow getting into like some sort of soul level of that person where, like oh there's, something about them. The words. don't sound that much different than someone else, but I can feel them very differently and that's interesting to me out. I want to say one thing: is that sometimes the when original voice is too happy behaviour, because in comedy and I'm guilty of this as much as much as all my best friends, comedies specific, because you gotta figure only way to figure out how to do comedies watch over complex and sometimes you will sound like the common position

simply don't know how to do the thing he died in comedy and inaction I I didn't want to sound like I was calling out any young comics, but in essence that is the way to the path to getting your own voice is to somewhat sound hacky until you realize shit, I'm not doing this. For me, that is the path. Sometimes it is to be. The only way you can get in shape is at one point and not be a shape. You gonna get in shape to be a fat fuck the people compliment you on lose away. This be a fat. Fuck first argue that first I and experience but but but that I'm, but that goal that goal of having your your your your voice. Having and being truths Do what you feel your thing is that goal is what's important. That path, I think, for people something for people to choose to change? They have to understand the why they are right. I think Sometimes will choose that hockey behaviour to belong right

now belong to these people and to be extraordinary. Who'd you belong to is hard to see that you have believe and have faith that once you become in that extraordinary extorted people start showing up that come out of the woodwork, but if you have no experience of that. The feed of being alone or the fear not belonging. I think one of a deep need. for human beings is to belong. Belonged to another person to a tribe, to whatever I would argue. Religion would argue that a lot of hacks would dislike this podcast, because it's calling them out on their underwear they're going to go like fuck. That I know this shit, yeah or one would help a hack. Would then go. Oh, I am afraid of not belong, and that's why I'm not moving forward in this padua. Maybe I should I really listening to my inner voice and stop doing that and know that my tribe will show up, because if Europe

hey you're, not the right tribe anyway right. You should be in a tribe you can't miss hornblower hack and I've been half its partner. Not normal about comedy action comedy, but but and I've been a hack in life, it is hard not to be a hack. Why do you, because either. What's your context of the way that you're looking at that, so you go to or go to forest ape. This is my definition of not of of of what you said about what wood was most important. What you said in your book and I go to for state, and I join and I have long hair and I join of tat. he and I noticed that it does seem like a lot of guys are wearing khaki shorts. With with an eighty o shirt, with an atm hat with with doc martens his wife auction. I know that looks cool and then I,

I wouldn't might be one of those guys and then maybe girls like me, and then I do it and then in that I wear flip flops one day and some of fucking wearing flip flops for yoga. What am I doing? I'm fucking crazy and then I hacked myself into an outfit that it took me a cup. we'll years to realise this is not this is I don't know what to say actual names. This is rods out. This is playing out that this is trans outfit. This is, air this. Isn't this isn't my outfit busy often I saw everyone wearing and it seem like they were coolest fuck and now I wanted because fuck we'll do their thing and then a certain point you have to realize for me too, because fuck, I gotta be me, asked gotta be the guide it. his own thing and dress his own way. Now. Look, I'm unaware jersey by going to the game, but what we're talking about college, but we are also talking about- has grown up ahead like in full but but like age, I'm elk I'll, give you a perfect example,

Do you know how many a list comics have told me. When are you going to lose than not wearing a shirt? You need to wear a shirt on stage. Can we do it for just before you go off making you where the shirt and and and I would say, taking my shirt try the least happy thing. I've ever done because no one was doing it at the time, and I was doing it quite on. see for myself and for my own voice of what They made me feel most comfortable on stage. I want to be reminded that comedy should be loose im fun and not serious. I wanted to take it off to miss my family and it made me giggle to take my shirt off made me giggle. It made me think this is fun it's thursday night. I know we have far more shows but forget, let's kill beer. Take assured often come up rammed jam, and then, as I continue to take it off, I never at one point thought this will be my brand. I never looked at as far as that. The industry one day will dictate that

You bet you need a. I never once thought that that unita now for your special on trimmer streamers run around and that thumbnails pretty then, if you're the you're, the guy, the sharp you their own as usual, and they know you comic and you're that vital the ever once looked at any of those things I looked at like oh tat. What's gonna make bert happy and I was criticised and marked by my best friends by the way, rogan tom, ARI Joey, all my best friends nor mcdonald could not stopped laughing at the fucking idea that I prefer shortlist, how ridiculous it was, and I just was- I give I like it. I like this, what I do This is who I am florida man you brought that up, but so, but how hard was that for you to do it's so fucking. Lord I've. I listened to very big name comics. asked me not not even asked me pretty much told me you're gonna, where a shirt

and I would- and I coward as a successful common and by the way here listening to this and not watching the video portion of that the way that you just expressed the statement urine where shirt right, there's a look of disgust, that's being transmitted and that's hard and ass. It got it wants you to call out, because that's really hard on you questioning whether not you're you're, doing a thing that you want to do is when someone is saying it to you in a state of like disgust or passive, is so passiveaggressive yeah and is a living in April at a flight very manipulate, the cell manipulative and its show fucking manipulative at its disposal. If your comment that I respect yeah and europe random mine, your close friend of mine and you're gonna. Do that it's so manipulate! because I'd. Never once oddly enough be shocked, I never wants it. Why would anyone want to wear on stage with such a non fought?

no one never did. I say: hey rogan, lonesome short, can you not do that? Why would I do it's such a ridiculous ff I can comment that, as I say it out loud. I've never said to tom him in the jackets. What are we doing with the jackets yeah yeah? Can you can you wear a tank top basketball These would be good on you. Do you realize what a riddick you been around comedy, probably as in and allay the pie, the longest out of this room rachel? Can you imagine any comic saying that any comic, what not to whereon stage, and yet it has come to me by the biggest comics in the business and and and asked me to conform so that they were comfortable and show it off Stop it gets my dad. That's that's when, as you say like that moment for me on this podcast cause, you know like there's all sorts of moments without any interviews that one and actually open up something for me as a kid as well, because I

The very outgoing gary's kids now is fighting against those two older brothers and I was cocky ah Well, that would be the word that they would say you know, and you know it whatever you're fighting attention on the far or something like that, but they would did I would be costly, told like Actually, what you were told is exactly what I was told as well, and just unlock something in I had I'm like away. That's another little governor that just got released a little bit for me too, of realising why I did some of the things and Ah, you know, like fur, there's this real. I it's really stupid the waiter We create these enemies amongst introvert versus extroverts. An actual point do things for attention is like because that's our energy. I'm not doing this, because this is just how I like to show up. I vibrate theirs. I vibrate vibrate, there's three votes.

yeah, there's, there's three or vibrate vibrate one hundred spots. There are three types of people. I said this in the gym the other day, and I said this I think I said this, this room, there's three types: people my opinion, people who love to walk into the room, people who despise walking Urim and industry. Will it don't realize walking in the room? The thing now me I love walking. I love making an entrance into a room if you have a room full of a home people and an you're telling me I get to walk in. I practice when, in the same I walk in, I had excited, I You tell me, there's a hundred. We walk in the room, I'll get ready for it. I'm when I make a phone call elegant to test this. I sometimes but he. Yes, he practices practice I was up like and so and then there's my sister Annie who, if you could magically put her behind a house play in the corner of the room and make her maker appear, she would give you friend

higher your salary to be able to do that and never have to walk into a room. Peter by assisting peter said. If it was late, class and peter loves to learn late to class and and the only seat was in the front row. He would not go to clap you'll be like I'll, just wouldn't about definite, would go in and then its people likely leanne that don't know walking into a room and not walking the rooms, a thing they just go. You gotta get the room right there, people listening going like what are you talking about about any of this, but I am a hard core extrovert I get excited. I get excited about. I get excited about a lot of things. I think wooden excite people, my my favorite part of doing stand. a lot of times is being washed in gratitude from own personal gratitude when I step on stage and you hear people applaud you go, I always go take a breath

I think the center won't be here forever. You know it's not going to be here forever. One day, you're gonna walk on stage People go back. I am a measure and adapt as all of us, but is not happy. today in it, and then I will happen, maybe tomorrow so like really drink it in and theirs and there's my sister who, if you said, hey you to walk on stage she'd like what is her child. Kidnap first does it can I can. I can I put a gun in my life and then you settle in. We need you instead she's like for ok, I will, but one who by will and then like us. They say: ok, fine, hey, like it this reminds me of a conversation. This is actually a little bit of a surreal moment so when I do my my speeches, I liked bring in lots of different multimedia to kind of make my point for me so like I'll play, the clip of like Oprah and johnny jocks or I'll play that of Tom hanks talking to Jimmy kimmel about when he played mister,

rodgers and how he thought he was a bit about whack job and then in that, and not one is him talking about, so you watched. Seventy eight episodes of won't. You be my neighbor cause, he's going to be a good actor he's going to do his work and through that process fell in love with this guy, and so he talked about When you put on that red sweater employ shoes, you feel powerful and Jimmy says really is like oh yeah, you feel like you're putting on batman's cape and cowl. What is that include? cognition the story of the red sweater. In blue shoes, if you didn't watch, though, shows would not have it powerful body lots of seventy up. So they saw the genuine nature of her This man really wanted to show up for kids and give them a place where you know an adult is sleep interested in their world view and and so Oh now, its powerful. So I play these differ videos. I have one of you

you wanted to use all now know you too, in your podcast. This is why it's crazy to me: you do in your pocket, interviewing dang cook and dane there's just one moment where you guys are kind talking about his career and how he almost got on esa now and he was trying to kind of figure out his path and but now he starts playing in these bigger and bigger stage and he's on he's like when I'm out there there's this. It's big personality comes out, but most people I grew up, and I was like I was I was like I was an introvert like I, he's is. It has great line that he says and it gets too big a kind of say it to prove the point of like you, don't know when you're gonna meet. and he says I got off stage this one time and it was in the big arena when he was like in the center of the stage that special and he's like. I get my foot off stage and I look back and as like I'm

playing me. That's the me that I want to be not the one. That's gonna go back there and be the introvert. That everyone's told me that I that's me, that's the real me and it's really great moment like I'll I'll, send you the clip of your like ass. You can be rolled out because its bit it such a great example of how this all ends up unfolding for some one in the future. When you do be low but more playful and you do use or creative imagination to slow more and you have all of the above once and turn into her that and it's been a fun? You know I fell in love with her, but and then I think, through having kids a lot of things changed. But even when I met her, I think you sometimes especially when you found bc, someone's potential, and then have seen her realized for potential and you got to realise their potential by being the version of the person that you want to be

I'm still not there, I'm really far from there. I have a hard time, excepting compliments. I have a hard time with accolades enough, and I know that it would seem at the opposite end up in a weird way. I compensate for them by mark bragging about stuff like I'll I'll cover myself and like I don't run a marathon, no training at all. But there's a part of me that really you know I had a very pivotal conversation with with Joe above brogan before I came here and don't when he came here like today, as I drove you're all right here today we talk on the phone and he was a poor. Blood is like my voice. Change is just well the and polar plunging, and I said something to her and I thank god you told me you were at a polar plunge, yeah

Oh, but I said you know I mark. I jokingly openly mark a lot of lake, discipline talk like I just I just find it's fun to advocate against the stoic. I think it's a fund space, yet because stoicism so popular right now everyone is obsessed with more it really is, and and and all the stoics and I google, the anti us it's called libertinism. I think which is brilliant, because my name's burt is in the dead center of it, and I, but I I really for the first time and I've Catherine Blanchard and I got highest fuck and on a bus one night and debated stoicism and the brilliance of it and find the opposite. If I am going to

king step. Over there was it's called libertinism just type in liberty them and So I, but I said I said joe- you know I don't know if I had any growth these last four months. You know with what, with while trying to transport for myself, but I never understood the phrase. Discipline is freedom, never mind if you guys wrote libertarianism a fucking things as libertarianism a moment, let libertinism threat. That was which was it, was a to show, shouted the wiktionary link, yeah desert pollen. If you're libertarians buddhist, are you fucking kidding me? The definition of liberalism is anything in the book debauchery impulse, sexual promiscuity, lack of restraint and an me

authority as someone who doesn't like being told no and loves to fucking, get loose and go after it go back. One pays as it's alive it's a character by self indulgent but burnt his audience. What's burdensome, I want a fucking fund up, oh liberalism, liberty. Some of my point is I never I mean I never really understood stoicism. I never got it. Just doesn't make sense to me yeah the idea that you don't feel and you shut down and you you've pulled in and you don't show and you'll. Let it and and the one of the big ones is Discipline is freedom at makes so little sense to me, my daughter, I love you, have no fucking idea. Willis, listen to a podcast with jocko willing where he said: Adam. So the best part about you know you could accomplish things, I'm not marking a month. I'm just tell a story here. I don't. I don't want anyone to think coming after I'm not by showed it to Alex? He has she has a hard time. Waking up, I said, take a look at this video and the video is Jocko saying

as soon as your alarm goes off. You get out of bed, you don't even question you get out of bed, you don't let that comfy pillow pull you back in and allah his paws and goes going back to the comfy pillows. The best part of waking up, and I said what he meant. She was that sleep you get for ten minutes is almost better than your whole night sleep. You go to bed immediately and you dont role move around at all. I got accessible point. I let you missing the point, so he play again and he's like a man. You had to do I she looks at me as yours, who is this guy, I go as a navy seal. She, the zoo- I don't know. I love these. He's he's out Fuckin marina, like the biggest fucking bad asses in the world, when she was like. What's his name, I said Jocko, she goes archived on, say a plane is a go to the gym. You work out and they've got two victories under your and your butt. You've gotten out of bed and you've worked out yet and it's four in the morning

like fucking four in the morning and then he goes and then when you go to work and they got that plate of donuts. You know that you're building up victories- and she has pause- if he's going to say he's not going to have a doughnut, I'm done listening and I go I like I don't notice can save I'm on. I can almost guarantee was not having a tone then she said: do you friends of someone who doesn't like doughnuts and I went her. She had better yet do you think he'd like you? I would I never thought about. I like him, but I dont think you me at all. I think I drive and looking not just because shot like alright, I'm done so. We just stop listening, but but the I never understood the phrase. Discipline is freedom and then, once you get fined a tad bit of discipline, you really embrace the freedom you get within it. I don't know where the story's going to make things happen. Let things happen. You have to do things in a disciplined fashion so that when

time to play football? You just play football and because you ve already done all these fundamental right to be over. Just let it go is the same with like you walk into a room? That's chaos. You have just been so as time putting the room in order before he can sit down as a forty eight hour, but no nine I'm just saying that to apply it to something. There's a ball game. If you live in a chaotic, space chaos, but has to be handled instead. If you just make your bed and put your she's in the dishwasher and do the bullshit you don't want to do in the moment. If free, of the rest of the time. The dissident, unvalued fundamentalism, the fundamental discipline allows the freedom these other things, can I say something birth, I think. Well, you tell me if I'm hitting on what I'm trying to what I think I'm picking up on from you is that this is the, problem with social media or self help or you know, live your best life pundits? Is they make you

feel like shit unless you're doing every fuckin thing right. In your life, and so you, entire life has to be dedicated to the pursuit of all of these different disciplines. Ah, and you're not a whole person. Unless you are well, though, I assured this on a recent interview. Is There is a really important part of finding out and challenging yourself with what you think is true about how to prepare ourselves for a game. If I'm working with an mba player or mainly baseball or in a child. Both those sports have typically many games in a week. Sometimes you have three. In a week

and I'll always say to an athlete. I want you to pick one of those and schedule that went to be average you're, not gonna, go there and track crush. It don't go in there with, like you, ve had that capability, but let's just experiment with something: ledge sketch that one to be average pick which one and its hard to get them to like wait. What do you mean and unlike no just don't go in there with the ecb occasion that you ve got alike at the last shaw- you got alike hit you members and all that kind of stuff. Well, here's the stance and I ve been doing since nineteen, ninety nine, I gonna, try. Get all inside of now to Google? She used to be an exception Eighty six percent of those athletes will have the best game of the entire week. Love it by the way that that's sk of sounding snobbish, but that's the way stand up work, sometimes your like, like little rock arkansas this

in Boston. The shall act ashore, one really pop out, but the rocks on that also not founded end, but like a it'll, be good? the sun, god dammit those fuckin magic. Why? The fuck was so so good in them. When I went into Boston sold out to the fuckin ceiling little like in my own way I felt a little cramped, yeah, yeah, so scared like average in, and I can't tell them why, because if I show them. If I reveal the the magic trick, then it doesnt work rises, like? But why I'm like? Listen things just did on this pike ass? Well, we'll see so they'll go the wine. Unlike can you why trust is so important, tat way they let you do trust me like you, you know how the rostrum who have worked, like trust me on escaped useless, would be average this week or

walk in and they'll come out and I'm like. So what do you think of the numbers that the outcome of the game are like? Who cares about the numbers that just felt good right and I'm like? Well? What does that tell you? and, and we get into conversation about expectations, Placing such a high expectation on myself- and I might get expectation is typical- gonna, be the enemy of peak performance for some one right. So- and I say this has the conversation, sir, laugh with, like everyone tommy, you gonna like crushed things by or thirty. I am you gotta be in the coal plunge and then you gotta do thirty minutes a meditation you gotta, read the chapter of the book in all this and like hey, deaf billy everybody go and read a chapter of ultra eagle fact book, but then, after that, look like just put the brakes little bit I don't need to read alexandria's library before the end of your entire life. You can see. There are eight. I think

People realise what works for every work for these high achieving andrew. You remain campaigns, Joe rogan. peter tat, like I use these names as out of respect jacko, what works for them? It doesn't work for everyone and an end just because they said it. First in your hearing a lot of people say it now, like a la C4 like yodel, see, bore the four hours. I would I regard the other day? Say I wake up. I sleep. I woke up it. We thirty in the morning to work out- and I was like three thirty in the morning, Simon semi close to morning is the middle of the night. You can call that the morning and then he's like and then by by six, have already had two workouts in and you're. Like you worked up, I think that's called work out if you started to outside I don't know just cause they're parenting- it doesn't mean that the way and I think that's why I dug about your book, something I've heard anything about love, what you are saying, and I mean this out of total respect, but my stupid fucking idea give yourself a nickname with actual

I've all the ideas I had. That would take me. Eighteen, It's too whittled down to one chapter you thought out, and you wrote in an entire fucking book and all these ideas I could not visualizing couldn't articulate. Yet you seemed or technically very well in this book an end, but I waited fifteen years right. The book cause, I discovered the concept of like the eight we working identity in around two thousand and one that's my sir honing. It alter ego review that self to me in two thousand and three before the athens games. They let the games when as well. With a swimmer on the. U s olympic team who just she was the one who but all the dominoes made of all the other conversations. Talkin people about all three goes and persona has before that it was just like, essentially I did something geronimo and super richer and as I call that really cool and then, as I waited oil, would legit

show the superman emblem on his chest and and by the way in a note, shack is his name nicknamed but like like shit shock zilla shack DJ means more than shaquille. now at this point, shack means shut no like almost an alter like someone The idea- but I mean shack, is ike shack attack he's all over the place and with while the name snoop has has snoop doggy dogg snoop lion. I mean it's just I mean they call him boss snoop to a while. You guys were quick with that, how the fuck did that come up yeah fuck. It would, if she was wishes, ran in their rachel's over their googling snoop on her own she's nah, that one father snoop yeah, but his real name is

But while, while while you be, you know how badly whittemore dudley with more deadly, it became mortals who can or law saws I blame. Is carbon brought us? What is it, what do you like most about working with these elite atlas, like your favorite thing that you do I my two great question of this kind will say what the favorite thing is my favorite things actually getting sign jersey, yeah, yeah. I know what so? This was the other thing that helped like grow the I my was I had I signed in india with all of my private clients, shirt saying that I would never share that. I've ever worked with them the only time I would ever share a name is if they ve shared. My name of ghana. in an interview or publicly. So that's the only reason. Why would share corbies name because kobe match me? That's actually out so nfl films have sought, but nfl film,

a special on me in the book and workin nfl with building alter egos and than they highlighted like the best. All three goes in the nfl fell. The best alter yours in the inner, while the best. Whenever is both Jackson, Cause no one knew about it. That's how nfl a felt so fella brought about by jackson's, alter your resiliency opening story to the book so why am? I was doing a speech in it in your neck. it was down outside of atlanta, georgia and I'm pacing greener and ready to go on stage talk to these athletes in these coaches and this a physical specimen walks through the door and I'm like. Oh that's, bo jackson. He won me a lot of games on tech mobile, kid because he was the cheat code when you handed it to bow on technical, he wouldn't be tackled, and so he comes up and he's like cause, I'm the only one in there. So he comes up he's like hey I'm bo and I'm like yeah. I know who you are

I am todd, and I was like. Oh, are you speaking today and I said yeah I'm supposed to go up next, unless you just bump me is like no, no, no I'm going to go and meet a friend, so he's like. Oh we're going to talk to the kids about, and I said I'm going to talk to him about a job that you know really developing your inner game, but specifically gonna talk to him about the importance of building a persona, a character or an alter ego to go out onto the field, and he never forget kind of cocked his head to the side, and he said bo jackson, never put it down a football and I said, get Tommy more there's a store that their knees idea when I was growing up. I really battled with like anger issues and that serves you well as a running back, knocking people over but me a little bit on coach ball and it wasn't the best teammate and so one I mean the family were watching this movie and this character comes on the screen and his cold. Calculating methodical and unemotional now thought when I take that out onto the field

and it was jason, voorhees or jason from further thirteenth. So here's a guy who's anger this, like always like screws what people hasn't like he's back. anger and he chooses the serial killers. I got there and I'm like, but that's the human experience why can't so unaltering off the shelf, because his interpretation was meaning full to that moment in time for him only way it when he was too emotional on the field and he wanted to become unemotional. So his mission. I talk what this in the book, the whole union form of like one of your identities, is to find a mission. What's the mission of me as a dad and and so the mission for me as a dad, is to have my kids experienced joy in love in my presence, gay and ah nice man. So then that is what's going to govern the behaviour that rickets wrapped around that and in the way that I show up- and so

His mission was to destroy everything on the field not adopt with no emotion before it was with emotion, right, and so he talked about Oh, you know when he's on the sidelines. No one talked him like me: play provable could use just in psycho jason mo basically ah, and he would He had a very specific process of engaging the altar eagle jason lived on the field he lived on the field. and when he would come out of the locker room or whatever, and he would make a very specific feel to tell motion hers, foot would land on the ground and is I think this is right. Foot then that's when Jason would come up inside of him like a a spark would come up. when he would transform into two jason such emotional great store. So the thing. No one knows it because for for a the only footnote I had in your book, he said he was the only two sport athlete approach, all star, the but

de on India. I dont think d on one european level. Star was mine. Ass Darnel stormy was deaf when opera, but but he's coach, whose ring Actually, in his prime time I mean as soon as you said that I said what about beyond is the beginning of the. Worked and then I went whoop diaz prime time, but one of the best alter egos in football. He got bo jackson had the number one that no one knows about. No one was about your prime times. Gotta be up there. The wolverine baby, who I'm sean from the philadelphia eagles? How was his last one shot famer? What are you looking at me like I'm going to guess at that put your google wolverine right, wolverine altri, no, not subjects neuro. When censure. Sales may stop hold on sales. these are shown, Burnett are unwilling, he's got and so good from wolverine worldwide up in philadelphia, pennsylvania, shoutout, shod shadows, showing check out his link it in here

he's a sales manager for wolverine moi worldwide, and you know I think it's just a somber net sligo yeah yeah, I'm time. Prime time you ve got bow jack's at that age. yeah. Well, I'm a bears guy, some of us. Tat the big one, an end up, Michael Vick, talked about his superman like, well go and he do that oh, ah so hope has better Michael Vick joke in the dog watch, her dear brine, doc, instinct. all right I'll get my say shot Brian Dawkins in his was He had his own. There needs to be a podcast of them I cannot enjoy these to google off. Going back and forth when we talked about african circumcision. The fucking liberalization happening over. Your soldier was so fucking funny of them go and outrageous going now

and by the way we're talking about the two were taken with the two rachel's no natural christine. No, I know it is. I chose Christine, Finally, I want to give I wonder what your eye, iraq and Brian darkens is be so Brian had his own walker dedicated to alter ego- oh my god, rape and it would will vary and trees, he would run out onto the field on all fours yeah, I'm we're watching that going to know how exhausted b for the rest of the gay him yeah yeah. Now, try walk around off worst tonight, it's really five hour how he terrified so many of the often suppliers in the leg. do so. How do we give Leanna better, alter ego, then countrymen on her back don't get too. I am joking us now really wild right, but I have one it's out there. Now contacts are gonna, have its own website. Rachel had one christine. These one rachel downstairs, Gabriele sugar already yeah. Well, he asked

It is like talking about the book. Is we don't have one unifying alter ego for our entire life or I, like the machine, would end up trapping you if you needed to be the machine everywhere, just like the boss got trapped inside of this one. You know self sealing really good at be a bird yellow bird, a lot yeah! That's one of my goals this year is like love, birdie boy, a lot cause. I I I like Bertie boy for his. He was really cool I named have named some specials after nicknames, and I and I I can corporate that into my shows or whatever- and I love when people call me buddy boy, I love when people say hey big boy, I love when people go machine. I love good, I love it makes me feel like you, you know me my my dad calls me buddy boy. And my mom, my mom, your mom calls you bought. My mom calls me bob or bopper, but maybe that's the the big bopper tour, the big bopper to her, and maybe we'll call it next special bop know that's a bad

fuckin, a great idea, not a great, not if it was to it like if you anytime, you anytime, you're, trying to change an identity or some some area. Your life is not working for you like it's because of a role that struggling with like it's, it's new mom or it's new data on we have nickname here. We call ourselves the bad ass bitches. our tribal- how there you go right of many women, but that's a great example learn culturally now. So if you read re in chapter three wanna talk or tribal narratives, your intention creating a powerful final environment or frame for the bad ass bitches to be in, let live inside of it and I'm sure there's there's characters. We have jackets that are monogrammed. That's your club, then called cognition yeah your forms- oh my god, I'm so ahead of the game. I didn't even know it I'm going to need one of those jackets falcon luck crowd. Apparently there is a lot of sexism running through this carbon occurs. If you have a view, p standing up, you don't get a jacket. Why did you not about sports? Ok, so we're

we'll make we're gonna make uniforms with men, the war locks thinking the name. So what is the favour part? Your job was up thing about it. No, it is. It is legitimately when that person sense, a text message after a week. One are we to or whatever work and working together and alike,. how did a lot of times I'll say: how did I not working with what it's? U or someone like you sooner, as they just had some massive break through and that breakthrough is they, if they get to the end of some game or results, and they look back and they're like. Where was that guy? Was there all along? Wasn't he and now that I just look at things differently or approach. Things in this different way. More of my capable, these came out onto that court. That field you know Boardroom causes knock has by a typically actually would say I work more now with

entrepreneurial ceo lag, sort of found or business and then public figure world, because when I sold my sports company the agreement ahead with Ah, Madrid, as I went workers, many sports teams that actually retires in twenty four. Ah so, but I had such a kind of a it's a strong name at the higher levels in sport that you know athletes I mean I still work with like five athletes, every single you know at any one time I was working for five athletes, but that's it it's for anybody that I get to work with them like I had the great is that you get on social media from people saying like this. One over in australia, never retorted inner life never worked at a daily life and she's like I'll, suspend me this belief about this idea for a second and she, built out an athlete alter ego, and so months later she competed in her first half marathon, why I'm still trying to reconcile how this even happened but what I do know is

I've been approaching life with a lot more playfulness and what I've started question about myself. Is this idea of I think that I am is bullshit. It's that like self ceiling logic that I have so now that she's kind of release that governor on herself she's like what what else is inside of me that I can get out and so on this kind of great attitude of evolve, and curiosity of what else? Is there not sing overtime ceiling? Logic of who I am yeah self ceiling? Love is so everyone time. Someone said to me very cats, said to me now: there's two types of people: papa people who lose weight and people who talk about losing weight was impressive, a value you lost way, and it is what I lost

a lot of weight. When I first met you- and I just thought that was a real eye. I looked at life like that. A little bit like there's two types of people, always you can apply that that exact analogy down the line people about total tar baggage and on you'll get it done their talk about their people to say, I'm do the work and other people who talk about doing the work. There's people ago, I'm gonna fuckin, I'm going quit drinking and then there's people who we're drinking drink, you know and then there's people garment of figure. This out, like he's just users, an end. It seems that those- two group supply down the line, but here's the thing. This is the beauty of fucking life right now, if you ve always been the person let's just to talk about losing weight that self ceiling logic. Does it have to be there anymore? Now interchange- and I'm saying this- is why your book connected with me that I read. I realized

How much of I can't get on the I can't sell tickets. I can't get a fan. I can't get out of travel channel. I can't get my podcast up off the ground. I can't get I like. I can't do anything myself away for my manager to call me how come I'm not giving our audition. Why am I not going, but I wanted, this I'll do? That and then, when the second, the machine showed up all the sudden I started it started falling into place and I started embrace, in small successes that. the machine story or character or me being the machine when people yielded out it made smile, and so That's why I took my insights on life or buzz saw, but it connected with and I was like I wonder if my fans in other than their mother, and people. Listen, this pillar still listening. I go I'm a writer tiber, I'm with yeah yeah and their there could be like fuckin. I love beyond the machine.

I love the machine. I love bird, olive oil. I follow him on the right, Everybody does if you want to lose weight at once, what drinkin, whatever the fuck he wants to? Do? I love the guy. They don't I don't just leave him to be the saying that he says he is but outside. While I can give you some advice, public yo economy for me and and I was gonna write a fucking chapter about it. I just want a book that is that, if it is ever thing. I wanted to say in any way more with way, more success stories like so much bigger success stories and expert in that field knows like this. I gotta share with my fans. I gotta share it because it's important to me and it and it it's like you know if I can find the dude who wrote a book about, great, if I could find a dude who wrote a book about being punitive, if I could find a dude who wrote a book about there's like all my fucking, all my self help, shits, just

I can work around to get me to do the shit that I know I need to do sure and I feel like we could just talk about for every are of the very very easiest hang well I'd. Love to do is do another podcast with you. Where we get drunk. Do you drink? I'll drink, odette, druggist, fuck and smoke cigars and smoke georgia. I was gonna spokesman. They don't want to do it for lunch. I do there, though data of YAP. Aren't you gonna like this. Yet but when I say I'll drink, I'm not machine drink I'm not your ego. Smart always knocked me, the machine? I don't know I it's yeah, but act, but it but a beautiful old fashioned with fantastic, nicaraguan. yes cigar, lets a love it. I love it rachel. Do we, if you had to give rachel an artery oddly offer mother fucker an altar ego? Just

take a look at her and given alter low rachel and have to discover it for herself. Rachel, rachel, agile, rachel, sit on actually say what one thing. That's wholly you back. Yeah, okay, hurt the one thing: that's holding your back: you can be vulnerable on the internet. So how do we get rid of that? And what or alter ego ego is it is, is the cougar it's I don't know I presume you attack you not afraid to go. That remains an older woman I, but that's not the context and I'm giving it as a woman, probably like I'm not that old, leanne yeah. I think rachel also ego should be D. The muskrat you're, like I don't know, there's a horrible

hr violation, I'm sure I'll, be your totem, a yo, yo yo, looking at totems, oh yeah, but the great thing, as is its. It's not the owner of the company saying this. This is just some guy that does interviews in the show that said it, so your it's the different alter ego who said it is not going to use that in court. You can try. It's been successfully used, I believe so. Where can do podcast yeah? Where can everyone find all your stuff? So I walk assets, launching the debate called ground, punch, so it's actually chapter the book and my wife being very smart and she's now see or the company she was looking at kindle data on the most highlighted parts of my book and ground punch is the most one was highlighted. Parts of book is actually near the end of the book and it's about there's Moment where you feeling like your backed into a corner or you're, not doing a thing that you want to do in its that moment when the incredible hulk for this fist into the ground and ex shatters the enemy one woman, slams or two risks together and sends the shock way about ashes,

being defeated and there's a moment in one and so many of clients' lives and stories where they it's this ground pitch moments of the whole the whole podcast is about talking to? successful humans about No, I want to hear about, like you know the day, that you got your for special. Are you to take me to the point in your career together? It was not right and so on the ground on each other's right. Now it was on the phone with tommy and this is such a ground punch of autonomy after I got pulled off the funny or die tour oddball? and I had a new year's eve dates. I all my dates were all my dates have been pulled for the entire year, because I was supposed to be funny or die tour through live nation, and then they just pull me off and

on the phone with Tom I was both, I was getting ready to get on the treadmill. I was at my desk by my arms romania. Like this. The phone was on the table like this. I was on speakerphone as a kaga fuckin, I'm not doing them. I just found out. He was like fuck, that's a lot of money to lose. I've told the story before, but I would keep it working in austin see and he goes there's a lot of money to lose and I was like I was like nah. I mean it's not that bad, it's twenty five hundred bucks a weekend and I had to pay for flights and hotels and he's like huh, is a to show no, no, no! No! Twenty five hundred bucks. We wait Allah. I will how much you making, and he said I don't think I can tell you- and I should Why? Why can't you tell me cause I'm afraid it's going to fuck up our friendship, and I said it's not like you can call me and by the just at when somebody bad news, but I can tell you and you're like I need to know. I have to know now yet- and I know that is gonna fuckin hurt and I said tat

grand a weekend, I'm comfortable ten grand a weekend and I was like uncomfortable and he said eh sure and I'm so I took a deep breath. So how do I feel about this guy I've known him when we were about very very broke out on tribes who just been fired from travel channel, the eminent dm exact me we tearing down our house. We were redoing our entire house, so it's all destroyed. Now it's all destroyed. They don't have any money coming in for three months or two months, three months by netflix, might by showtime special way? Underperformed. No one watched it because my short was off and. and now I have no work coming up and I just got pull off this tour and I'm hearing the my best friend who I want to be success by one up to them to be successful. I'm hearing- is making more money and he said a lot more. Twenty five grand and I went while us more a weekend, minimum gay and then he said a show and I went

and in that not the the me and, if you're, talking about a ground punch moment. I said: that's where I stand. That's why it's my value. That's real! That's my value! We can't deny that that's my value in the industry right now and I'm actually It's my values even less than that, because my value actually to to near die or live nation. Whoever was that the door was less than that because they thought they could save themselves. Twenty five bucks a week and it may be spent on sodas yeah so that everyone else had a better weak it. So I less valued and a soda in my head or for being real about it, bert how other people would also interpret it is not only are they saving twenty five bucks? Theirs? leaving the audience from my act, dude I didn't think about

if you do, she says Christ for your past it so that no listen, I'm not kobe. Okay, so I don't have like fish skin pretend you're talking to vulcan sean payton sales. So a search on the? But nobody- I am and then whether it goes this burgeoning friendship. So sorry about that, though, no no, but I I said that's my value and I and I listen. I also am very blessed with beautiful friends in tom and Joe who were like this doesn't have to be your story like this. You can. Your get. The fuck away from travel channel is like one long story short. I just got fired and they're like you. Just focus on your stand. Up will get you funding for your stand up for your podcast, focusing your podcast focus on stand up,

what other special rogan was like be undeniable. Have I wrote that my journal or my job will be undeniable? I didn't know what the fuck I meant yet be undeniable, get a netflix special, be undeniable, and then I had all these great friends around me to kind of point me in the right direction and and and but my grandpa moment was like I will not listen to anybody. Am I bliss and other people up until this point yeah I've, I've hidden. Whatever things I wanted to hide travel gentle didn't love! My son but they didn't love me being on the podcast. I was like. Well that's gone, I will be on podcast. I will talk reckless as fuck and be authentically everything about me. I'm gonna tell every story that I think is fuckin interesting or funny. I'm gonna be who I want be openly yeah and I'm going to I'm not. to deny it part of myself and I remember editing video some people mocking me for putting out logs like oh, I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna put out more large. As a matter of fact, I'm not a focus on my online presence, I'm folks on

then in folks are larger, want what's instagram amid the due from smash mouth. I might just fine. in his room. I already know how to eta videos no one's due attention, just your editing, videos short, promoting shows through things mess. You know like him anyway, do a dance contest everyone's like that's the dumbest thing in the fucking world. I want, I don't think so. So I authentically did a dansk video to sell tickets for a tour. It was like I mean I just got like the dumbest things. I've ever done, the ones where everyone I looked at a picture of me, Liane isler in georgia. On the issue of vacation in sweaters, where we none of us were smiling opposes, like the first big blip,

and none of us smiling and I was shirtless. It's a key find that this christmas sweater christmas, sweaters burt family christmas. I posted it and some comics wrote back the fuck. Are you doing? I didn't even get the joke yeah, the fuck. Are you doing like texted me? That's the picture and it went. It went like a virals, a weird thing to say today, but at the time I posted it, it got a big fucking pop and I thought it was funny. Had I cowered to what I thought: immunity would would want my friends my dynamics or even comments. I would never have done it, but that moment when I realize I got nothing to lose and will have a job and travel channel, I don't have towards comin up I'm not selling tickets. I do know that I want I'm interested in the internet. I find I started discovering chivalry coming a fan of stuff, I really embraced phantom and being, fan of shit and the then going like a america behaviour. There's no

money and being a hater there's. No there's no juice from me in taking down other people stuff. It may not be for me, but I'm not gonna, look at it and I'll take a look at it objectively and see what in that applies I even if I started the not like something, I'm being critical I'd take apart. What may be critical of it and then don't do that. But do the other shit you like do the other shit you like he's gonna fucking, drones. Arkell. Look it's a lot of real footage, but drones are cool. Like but and so I would just started phoning. I sort of dialogue, on the shit. I dug the shit I liked, and Only my vision, no one else is vision, just mine, and I mean that would love. But even tom and Joe and my best friends were making fun of me at certain points of my of by trying to be myself and my journey I just started oh shit, an end, but you got that falcon rock bottom ground. punch moment is so valuable, canopy

It is when it's happening you're so angry that is happening to you in that, and I don't think a lot of people realize they can just fucking change it and I'm talking by the way, there's what they ask. A policy in this entire by gas, whose I do I'm a fucking landscape. Are you talk? Did you make this. For me, like I remember when one was lazy, because I want to be a dj and he was like. Oh my god, but I got me, I did live here dj. I dj you but helping you cut ugh? I reset it growled egg lines like that, so ground punch, carpet, the book ass. A taught her may not me is my home base on the on the entire webs and then got links. I too, like all yourself that I've got an end, odd underscore herman is where I am on instagram. So if you have a favor. I was like it when people like take a screen shot of weathered the podcast player or though youtube video or whatever you want

in this on and yet you know take both of us in a poster or a story or something, and just let me know like what your favorite takeaway is cause. I respond everybody. I would I would I would highly recommend I love it. I would highly recommend your in your book too, I dunno where I dunno. If you get a cut of that, but oh yeah, I don't get any cut of mine and mine's really good yeah It's so good because I carried out loud and so are you anyway, I'm putting you my book, your two here, but yet I had the audio books. Fucking awesome, sixteen chapters and if you put it at one point seven five speed still understand. What's it called again The altar ego effect the altar act. And don t listen to it. Now is fucking great, it's great an end, and you know that I dunno what I find in your book cosette stairs a lot there's a lot of,

love analogies, I love a good story. The boat jack straw drew me immediately guys. You have already heard that you skip the prolonged and now Wait. Get me out of prolonged just get me into the fucking book, but but nobody great story and drew me in and there's a lot of, aha moments where, like that's me, or that, oh or maybe I and it, and by the way it also- and this is the beauty of your book- it makes self growth playful yeah, you don't have to take it seriously. You can have fun with it. Give yourself an alter ego this week this week and find a thing that you want that I in the book and I get each area in the book used, said, sometimes highlight behaviors. You don't like about yourself. I already know mine. I know my yeah. I can't stop it from happening, but

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at garage on our podcast, but your interview with hers, fucking awesome, it's where I found you Yeah she's gone is she's she's, very great agri elite, her friend, so I know the real friends but real friends, my ass. She does texted me this morning this morning, texted me to say just that, no touch leon, those like and school. I'm glad, I'm glad you checked with you. This is gonna meander, I'm just gonna fucking guy now involves for no. What do you say it is you say. Thank you know now I think no, I don't and my podcast with thank you guess would thank know, I say hey. I guess I did, This is way of anyone listening right now, all I thank you you're a machine. I am Why don't you tell you point? Let me say your machine hated over your machine

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