Now. This is what I call the swamps last stand, and I think that this is really the last chance for the american people. Truly have an outsider in Washington and hopefully when the President, when Selby opposition, where Hill just accelerate the changes that he's he's been able to make it really during the swamp and and truly bring no power in America back to the american people. Some of the more effective policy makers in american history have also been the most unexpected, perhaps even most reluctant. Such is the case with today's guess. Jared cushion in two thousand sixteen, after working in real estate and business journalist, presented with an assignment he'd, never anticipated when his father in law, Donald Trump is elected. President George, promptly divested for many of his business is to become a senior advisers to the newly elected president. Despite a media that is eager to minimize the accomplishment of the trumpet ministration cushion or has been at the forefront

of some of the White House is most successful. First from the first step, criminal justice reform, criminal justice reform bill in into law in twenty the monumental loop is in the Middle EAST Kushner and his team have been leaders in shaping the future of the country at home and abroad. Kushner modern Orthodox, as many manage to accomplish all of this while balancing a robust family life, along with his wife Ivanka, who converted to Judaism in two thousand and nine Kushner, has become one of the closest advisors to the president? It can ones, to play a major role in the current re election campaign, jar joined to share his experience with the president as remind the american people of the administrations accomplishments continue given four more years in office was a great conversation. I hope you it. Jared Kushner or at the left likes to tell you the Evelyn Carnet. Welcome to the show. I appreciate your time. Thank you bet, it's great to be with you, you know

I want to start by asking you some questions. The media actually will not ask you, because it might number one humanize you in number to point out that you are not in fact the devil incarnate. Why don't? We start with the fact that, you and your office have been largely involved with creating the first movements for peace in the Middle EAST in a full generation, which means that normally, if you're a Democrat, I presume the democratic administration. Presumably that would mean that you were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize as it is. It must be that you are a nefarious of designers density. So I suggest why you talk a little bit about how that came about, because, really been under covered by the media that there is an actual movement serious peace in the Middle EAST for the first time since I was a child. Well, what I would say is that there are a lot of people out there who are very positive. So I recognize that the media is a small subset and obviously take were after four years what they say do mostly with the grain of salt, because I do find that people in the country and throughout the world

what's going on and they get it, and so I find it. That's not the standard which we try to hold ourselves to, but talking about the Middle EAST. I mean that's just a great example of taking a problem set. That's been looked at by so many people in, way for so long, and it's been approached with a very stale way of thinking, and so, when President Trump came in, he asked me to look at it. It wasn't. Something I had a deep familiarity with, and I obviously didn't have all of the dead, the history with it that many of the people it looked at it before had. But are we tried to take a logical approach to a problem and and what we did over the years as we stuck to our guns in the closer we were getting, I think to progress the louder, we're being criticised for actions by a lot of the conventional thinkers you ve been doing it one way, and so what we are able to accomplish was breakthrough

a wall that had existed for a long time to create a peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, and then, ultimately, we got a peace between is wrong. Bahrain is well, and so in Israel's previously previous seventy two years it had two peace agreements and then the span about twenty nine days we had to peace agreements, and so you know when we started. I said to our team. I said: let's, let's look at this like there's this big wall, the Middle EAST and people are so imitated by the wall that let's do our best to hit with everything we have and who knows. Maybe the wall is a concrete wall, like everyone thinks, or maybe the wall is as atrophied it or maybe it's just Paper, Michel Wall and at the end of the day, if we give it everything we got, maybe we'll be able to pass through it and that thanks to the unconventional approach and a lot of hard work by our people, my team and the president in this administration were able to get a great accomplishment that I think I will create a fundamental change in the direction of middle

four hopefully generations to come a German. We can talk about the sort of fundamental philosophical shift that had happened in order for this to happen, because neither conventional foreign policy, Wisdom going back decades was that if the United States was too pro Israel to openly pro Israel then would inhibit peace in the Middle EAST that the only where the peace in the Middle EAST would ever be made was. If Israel made concessions to the Palestinians in some sort of overall agreement was reached between Israel and the since obviously he perspective that the Trump administrations with your office took was that peace could something that was done outside in that the palestinian issue could be put the side or least delayed for the moment, a well other Is that aligned were formalized? Why do you think it was that so many people ignore that for so long I think use the false notion of America being an honest broker and they really all their eggs into that basket saying we have to show that were impartial bud. America is not impartial. America's job is to look after the interests of America and one of the things

is a fundamental underpinning of our Middle EAST policy towards really is the relationship with Israel, which we want to strengthen and then obvious also figuring out how, after the previous administration, as did the around deal, which probably one of the worst transactions I've ever seen. Maybe in history our basically they took the leading state sponsor of terror. They gave them access to a hundred and fifty billion dollars. They sent him a couple, a billion dollars in cash and they basically the day the was was signed, they were death to to America, to Israel on the previous four years America approves eight years had had creed. schisms schisms all of their relationships in the middle to other traditional golf partners felt very, very betrayed by America. Same with Israel, and then ISIS was flourishing in the region with the caliphate. The size higher. So we came and said what our America's interests and we brought everyone together. The presence first trip was to Saudi Arabia, where he assembled the leaders of it

for arab and muslim countries and said these aren't America's problems. These are your problems too. We have to deal with extremism, we have to deal with financing of terrorism, we have to get rid of ISIS and we have to roll back around aggression, and if we do this together, we can make progress, and so, instead of focusing on the tactical things which so many I would call a cottage industry, processors dead and they get stuck in these no philosophical or intellectual arguments we focused on what are we trying to achieve as a region, and then you know to untie the big knots yet to untie that the smaller knots and we just kept moving forward and I'll see that The thing the president did was that he wasn't bullied into not doing what he felt was right, no previous, presidents. When they ran promised, they would move the embassy to Jerusalem and President Trump. You know before he did it. Everyone told him include The intelligence agencies here in America that if he did it now, the world is going to end it is be. You know, unleash chaos in the Middle EAST and the Arab

when talk to us anymore, and it would be world world war. Three and no President Trump took the assess and he looked at it. But after being done the job a year, he had enough knowledge of the players in the region to say I don't buy that and he did it and then what happened was is the next morning the sun rose in the next evening, the sunset and all the different things that people told him would lead to the end of the world. I didn't happen, and so I did that President Trump showed people that he was going to take action. He was going to be bullied into into not taking action and by doing things differently. You know he really broke up the traditional field and then sometimes you have to break a leg to reset it. He ended up. You know doing things that were not normally done, and that's what led to these these breakthroughs, and so you know what we tried to bring people together on what their common interests was and try to take them away from being stuck in these old grievances, because a lot of the peace process A lot of these paradigms are riddles that were meant not to be solved, and so how do you do it? You have to change change the parameters and what you're trying to accomplish things because

If there is an easy to solution to the old riddle, it would have been solved in a long time ago. Let's talk about middle how's more broadly for a second, because there is this sort of weird shifting goalposts thing that happens whenever people talk about middle eastern policy, and that is that, if peace gets made between particular regimes, the Middle EAST and the media, and members left immediately shift the discussion to ok, but now we're working with dreams that violate human rights, ignoring, of course, the fact that the United States made tremendous can to the iranian regime, which is probably the largest human rights violator in the Middle EAST and maybe across the planet right now, how do how do you balance the necessity for pressing for human rights, particularly with regimes that very often waiting human rights, but may be doing things that are in America's interest. So I find in it politics in general. Again this was a newer I think from. For me I was not in politics, but you know you have a lot of people who wanted you virtue, signalling, they'll go out and they'll do lecturing and they'll tried out. You know, browbeat people and, and the mob that right because people want to see it, but what we found is that you know you could be much more influential with p

when you're not criticising them publicly. It's a very you, no fundamental premise that seems obvious, but you'd be surprised by how many politicians seem to you know miss that very simple notion. So you know what President Trump has done in the region is he's not telling other country other leaders had to run their countries. He doesn't choose who the leaders are of these countries. We inherit the hand dealt and he he works to further America's by by working with people, and so there are countries where we have common interests. We worked together to try to pursue those, and there are areas where we have disagreement, and you know we try. Have dialogue together to to push forward on that. But what he's not doing- he's not out there. Brow eating our allies were on areas where we can do things that benefit the american people he's out there working with with sometimes in a rough, tough leaders on areas where we can benefit our country in their country and then on areas where

disagreement by having a warm relationship in a dialogue, you're able to try to work with them to do better, and that's also why President Trump has been one of the most successful president, set bringing hostages home right he's. You know, get a lot of these places. You can sit there, these leaders on how to run their countries, but then they'll basically say you know. Well, you know we're not going to help you with issues that you have interest in and so again it's obviously a complicated balance. But you know in politics: you very not really a black and white business know things aren't really solved or unsolved. It's almost like the conclusion of every problem said is the beginning of a new paradigm, and so every he's always fluid nothing's really ever solid, and you have to accept that as the status quo and then constantly be working to optimize. To make this

things happen that you want to make happen and make things that are good, better makes things that are bad, less bad and then just always try to figure out. No, who are you working for you working for the american people? What are their interests? What is my job to do, and then how can I pursue that and advances interest? every day it now. The other accomplishment that you're off since had the White House has largely been accredited with eye is criminal justice reform and I was wondering if it calls for without out the details there, because I've been more critical of criminal justice refer, I'm a very tough on crime right winger. I, which means that dead. My belief is that I've seen in California letting people out of jail early. The in the hopes that they're not going to be receives, as largely has largely redounded the negative in the state of health, but what does criminal justice reform do and what doesn't it do so being

a right wing. You know, tough on crime is very much in line with my boss, President Trump, and he feels the same way. I mean he's very strong on law and order and doing it now in politics. You know a term like criminal justice reform again, there's about a thousand shades of gray and there's a lot of different definitions for what it can mean and any policy or any element you know taken to extreme, could be bad and know even things that are good and so the criminal justice that we put in place is not about no letting Yemen, some rapists out of prison, like some of the opponents, tried to criticise it, and it's not like what they didn't New York, which was the no cash bell which went way too far. Which made the streets less safe. The whole notion of what we did was we brought law enforcement together, along with the advocate, community, and we said what can we do to reduce crime and what we did we followed the models that they didn't alot of republican States like Georgia and Texas in Kentucky where what they did is they took the prisons.

Basically said we have a lot of people in these persons who have a high likelihood just for the data of going on to commit future crime. So any business, if you know where your future customers are coming from, that's where you want to market to, and then you know, as a country, we have been having this philosophical debate over the last years, which is what's the purpose of our prisons. Is it to you to punish people? Is it to warehouse people or is it to rehabilitate people? So it does cost taxpayers a lot of money every year to house people in prison and then in addition to that, if they're all going to get out, why are you so most of us, nothing? Ninety six? Ninety seven percent of you going to leave so when they leave the question is what product are you sending back into your community? So if, while you have them in your custody, you can give them skills training and you can help them deal with whatever substance abuse issues they have or mental issues and help them get the help they need and then help them transition back into the

Indeed, what you're doing is you're reducing cost by not having then come back you're also reducing future crime by getting them back into a job. So the criminal justice reform that we did brought programs that were very successful that help people reenter society to the federal level and then what we saw was thirteen states copy that, and I think that by and large has been a very successful programme. There are some things that come under the put on quote title criminal justice reform are that this administration is not pushed war, so we're not supportive of every element of it. But when things are common sense that can both help people live better lives. We do believe in second chances, America's a country of second chance. We don't want to judge people by their there bear their worst mistake. They ve ever made. You know people have the right for redemption, but we also want to keep communities and for me this was a very personal one that I probably wouldn't have understood. You know my father went to prison for a year, and I went is it in every week anyway, something that I met a lot of people who are in prison

What I found was there were some people who are just bad people. You know whatever reason they had rough childhoods, a rough experiences, but there are also a lot of people in prison who are good people whom, steak, and then they, you know, dug themselves into a hole, and then they just you know to try to get out, get worse and worse things to dig themselves out and and then there was who made a mistake, and they really want to turn around their lives? So, just because these people are there Does this mean that you know the society should turn their back on them? Their their human beings and the right thing to do is to try to help them find their way, and so you know when I was in the private sector. We had a second chance program in our company where we took people out of rikers and we gave them mentorship and trained and help teach them skills and they became some of our most phenomenal in employees in the company. So I do believe that we have a responsibility in society too society to. Every one and and to do a difference in this is one of the policies. That's been very successful in keeping our queen be safe, but also I you know you have been kind to the people who need kindness, the most

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Let's talk about your personal history, so you started off in business. You know very heavily publicized. You did real estate deals in New York, some of which went well, some which didn't go so well. Maybe you can talk a little bit about your business history because, especially because there's All this myth making out there about how you you're you're now great business. And then you come to the White House and now you're in the business of personal enrichment and it's all corrupt schemes. You talk, but about you're, you're, sort of business history sure well, look I was always raised in my family. My grandparents were holocaust survivors in my father, always a appreciate. how amazing this country was- and you know, growing up I was always exposed to business and I had much more of an entrepreneurial way. I bought my first deals when I was nine years old. When I was in college- and I was running a business then and then I decided when I was in college. Did you go to law school? I applied to law school in business school and I was attending that then I was working at the Manhattan district, attorney's office and death. I thought I'd go into public service and be a prosecutor.

when my father got arrested, and I realized that I didn't want a prosecutor anymore after going through that experience. I saw that you know people with the power could have a lot of ability to do good, but they also can cause a lot of harm and advertently, and so you know, after that I was kind of forced into my father's business. I went through a rough period and that and then I got involved in different entrepreneurial efforts too. So we sold my father's company by and large in about two thousand seven and death, and I took gum, we had what we had rebuilt. We rebuild silver about ten years of running. The company would give that about seventy employees to seven hundred employees. We did about fourteen billion dollars of transactions by and large. Most of them were incredibly successful you know what we did in. That business was very similar to what we do here, which is we try to find the trends and be ahead of the trends so

Yet we are going to a lot of the places where the markets were starting to evolve and death in creating product that was catering to know next generation of technology workers and and and places where people want to be so, but it was a successful endeavour over the years and die and ass. It did some technology businesses, which also were which well and then obviously my Father in law said he was running for president and you know with him. There was always something you know different, yet we didn't. I think that would impact our lives that much, but then, as that evolved yeah. I kept asking you to do more and more for his campaign then, and it has that effect kept evolving. We saw that he was really speaking for a lot of people in America who people weren't speaking for and have a lot of the politicians in Washington had abandoned. I give you the example of being in New York on the upper side and thinking I was in an area with a lot of diversity of thought-

and realizing that it actually was a tremendous. You know ecosystem that that was self reinforcing, and you know we go to a big gala like a Robin Hood event, and yet here these hedge fund managers get up and say you know we to call your congressman call your senator common core. What's going to save America, this is what's going to help the the kids in the inner cities, who are you not fail, schools, and then you go on the road with that with my father lawn. I hear him speak to a crowd of twenty thousand people who were not at all resembling what CNN was telling people they were. I mean, according to CNN, these were like clue: Klux Klan rallies, whereas I go to these rallies and it was diverse groups of hardworking Americans who just wanted to feel like people were and what captain we're paying attention to them and he got up and say we're gonna income, core and send you know education back to the states and the people got Alexander S awaiting. I was being told the New York that you know come and go, the greatest thing: what are these disconnects and so enough? For me,

I didn't have a very political band. I wasn't as as As as deep on a lot of the policy when I got involved in politics, but then on each of these different issues, the president would ask me ok, study this policy. Tell me you know what has been tried. What has failed wise had failed and what's a strategy that we should approach almost like. You know and then I would put these policy plans together and that's how we would pursue a lot of these different thing. So you know- I think you for me was really about understanding that there's two points of view in his private, a thousand points of view, but there's differing size and there's a lot of nuance in these policies and at the end, day. The goal has to be to make progress and push forward. So I got involved in politics in a very unexpected. And obviously it's been an incredible journey from me over the last years, but

no, it's been amazing, honour to be able to work for all these people all of the american people and to try to take areas that were either important to the president are important too, myself and to be able to focus on them and then to to make a difference. You look at the Middle EAST. Again, we've made two peace deals there you look at justice reform. That's can to impact hundreds of thousands of families. Are you look at trade deals? I would able to work on whether was the Mexico Canada Trade Deal, which is the largest trade deal in history, that's gonna know bring five hundred thousand jobs to America, Erika, and so you know there are a lot of benefits that can come when you're pushing on these policies. Look at immigration. The president asked me to take on the project of building the wall. That's not something did I ever thought I would do it again. It was just you know, project management figuring out. How do we get all the differ bottlenecks condensed and work through in and get her now we're gonna break four hundred miles, I think in a week or two, and so that's flying up and the borders

secure where detaining a lot more illegal drugs at the border, we're stopping a lot more human trafficking, and that's, I think, helping our country we do have a strong border and that's important to the president and the people who elected him. So again, it's been an unusual journey. I probably most people do public service later in their life. I was on a very good trajectory in my business, so pry wasn't the optimal time for me to turn to give up. You know my business life and come to public service, but I find that you know you have to follow in the opportunity. Comes not when you're ready for the offer and so, like I said you know all these different chapters in my life have been unexpected, but you know I feel incredibly blessed to do the things that I've been fortunate to do. So, how did your political viewpoint itself changed? mention mentioned kind of being in the upper West side can be the New York enclave of the tax and then going on visiting the middle of the countries where your political views fairly well defined before you entered the administration of before he started with the campaign or of miasmatic for you and then

over time. As you studied the issues you ended up where you are and what are you sort of your guiding political principles or is it mostly just pragmatism? I try to be pragmatic. Look nobody elected me right. The people elected Donald Trump as their president. He ran on a certain set of promises. You know he felt it was very important to keep those promises. You know I did have arguments with some of the people early on in the administration, because you know they came in and they would While these are the things we have to get done, ass, a walk, you know, look it's different running a campaign to being in governing now we're playing with I've ammunition and there's consequences to the decisions we make and and that we have to make sure that the president's you know having thoughtful nuanced plans that he can execute in an effective way and and it's very important that we have people on all sides giving him their perspective so that he's not being pigeonholed into one. Decision that he may not be ready to make, and so what I've tried to do is just make sure that you know when the president has a strong point. If you want something that you have people

I giving him the reasons to do it yet people giving him, maybe the opposing points of view when, when that's right, relevant, which is often and then allow him to make a decision and then, once you makes a decision, make sure that you have competent people ready to get an execution at an implementation plan- and you know by and large I I think that you know the president's have been focused on a lot of things, which really put you know, Americans first, and so you know, one of the great examples was trade, You know during the campaign I remember seeing a New York Times article saying how Donald Trump has taken a hundred years of trade. You know orthodoxy and he turned on its head and there are some people who have, but he didn't changes point of view But one thing that's amazing about him. As a politician is he's not somebody reads poles and then changes. He has a and then I see the polls change towards him because he's willing to fight for what he believes and he has a real point of view and again something she's been able to convince people and others, but on trade his whole, no

and was, is that these trade these are terrible right. Trade deficits do matter. He believes that their train their wealth to transfers of wealth. He believes that these multi now corporations, you know in in and inclusion with a lot of the government have created these terrible trade deals that, basically, you know offshore. A lot of our jobs in the UK ass. You were really willing to day said, while the others is is good because it means that the cost of goods for everyone goes down. But you know what what people didn't take into account was that the benefit may be distributed so tea if everyone goes down by a dollar but yet allowed these factories are leaving a lot of these cities and then, if there is no plan to help the people who are working in those factories transition, the costs of globalization became very concentrated, especially towards you know, really hurting the. no class in America, so we saw between to them

one and two thousand sixteen about seventy thousand factories, clothes in America, about five million jobs go overseas and those were great middle class working job. So President Trump came men first person to take on China you know the first trade deal in twenty years that in the Us Mca that was endorsed by the Labor unions and basically made deals that we're here to bring manufacturing back to America to benefit the middle class, and I think that if you look at a lot of these inner cities that have problems today, a lot of them do stem from the bad trade deals. So if you had a factory in Baltimore, steel factory or whatever was that was shipped overseas because it was cheaper based on these trade deals to do it. You know, maybe half the people found new jobs may be half the people, didn't went to social. Social welfare agency, some people committed crimes and people need different issues and We didn't have waited transition them to another job. That is reverberations. You know downstream. What happens there

their their next generation, and so I do think lot of the the problems in our inner cities do stem from these terrible trade deals that were made by know. Politicians in Washington who you know maybe bought into an orthodoxy that wasn't thinking about the american people, and so no president trumps ran on on a campaign of America. First, I remember you know, as somebody who's grandparents, you know went through the holocaust? You know that the critics in Washington said well, that's a view anti semitic notion- and I said well, how is it- and I said you know if you're running for president of the United States and your notion is to put America first, and I said: how is that not a good? A good Logan and then I was also saying: why is that controversial to people? He in Washington DC, but nobody she's just taken a very non Washington approach to a lot of things. He's taken up

common sense approach, some things have been, maybe a little bit more republicans. Some things have maybe been a little bit more traditionally democrat, but I think he's paved a real policy space for himself that I think by and large is built on pragmatism, and I think he's also got a lot of things done and he's fought hard to do it. I mean a lot of people say: there's a lot of noise coming out of Washington, over the last four years, but I don't think he would be able to have achieved the results he had had it not been for the making people on culture, but I find in Washington is people are very good complaining about the status quo, they can tell you what's wrong with something, but then when you, the changes are they get there, bring nervous, and you know businessperson things different than a politician when you're in business you The basis of my job is to try to do something because not making a decision is a decision. Rights are doing, nothing is, is, is a decision and then you see look. I know what I'm trying to get you sign to do everything possible to create a higher probability that all chief the upside scenario and do everything possible to mitigate the downsides.

area. When that's basely, what the President's done time But he's made a lot of people very uncomfortable, but we nobody able to make the progress we made with everyone in Washington being comfortable, Just a second. I want to ask you about your involvement with the trunk, because now we all think of you as part of the front family, Obviously, your last name is Kushner, so I asked about how you met your wife, actually in just one second, but first hiring can be incredibly complicated. I mean let's say that you have a couple of very excellent employees, but they get married to each other and then they go on like

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You obviously argument being not only are you a human being, as it turns out, you have beautiful, cares and a beautiful wife and a beautiful family. How did you meet a vodka, because this is obviously haven of working inside the Trump Administration Sue, was in New York. I was doing yeah a bunch of real estate and technology and publishing and and by a broker, should I worked with a german emotion actually said you have to meet this woman, a vodka? knew she was obviously, and so he set us up for lunch. I think she was trying to sell me a building for a price that didn't make any sense at lunch, so we got together. and it was just a nice time and then a couple weeks later later, she so, let's get together again and so near that's kind of where it went, and you know we built a very, very close relationship. I think I always say that if I wasn't, you know so attracted my wife. She just be my best friend and I found that She was a great person, fur meat to be able to,

You know why I had to learn from men, and I think that we just found a great bond. You know exploring the world together and death and I think we a very similar values of a family, and I also think that you know with everything that damn that I've been through with my father. in my life. I had a very strong may since for what in life was real and what was not real, and I tried very hard to not spend my Simon my time on trivial thing Then I feel, like a bank, also had a very unique childhood, where no was exposed exposed to lot. things, and I think that she also had a real desire to to focus on You know what matters and for us, you know really was about. We explored our faith together. It was about family. And I was about you know- living a life that you know. We felt that we could judge ourselves by our values. Not you know, based on the viewpoints of other people and do not think we ve been very less to obviously have a beautiful family. We have incredible friends and not even through this,

experience you know the amount of friends who we ve been disappointed by have been universally nonexistent, because we didn't have friends who were trivial people right. There were people based on common values. and common interests and a and a lot of people who have understanding that the world is a and place, and as we went through this exploration of obviously politics and obviously the world of conservatism and Republicans, which is maybe, bit more far us initially, we had a lot of people who, instead of you, know being done Eric about it, based on what their preconceived notions where these were people who basically wanted to, we are with us and understand what we are seeing and see. You know the other point of view that they need really weren't seen before, and so nobody has just been made. partner and amazing friend and she's, an amazing mother and just an amazing person, and so just verbal blessed to two davers, my wife and obviously love her very when it. How did you guys decide where you want to be religiously, as I'm a religion? it is our energy geyser observant as well. How did you do

together where he wanted to be on that score. So It really started with exploration right in. Obviously, my faith is something that was was is very important to me and something I was brought up with India and as as we started, you know getting to know each other, dating wise said? This was something she noticed and she said you know it's something that I'd be happy to learn more about and and I started obviously figuring out- you know- what's the best way to tat. Produce somebody to to Judaism and- and started out actually with with the notion of you know your. How do you explain the fact that the Jews are basically a persecuted people? They ve been that way for now for thousands of years, but you know the notion that you have to have faith in God and and dad know how to use in some of these. Are these things that happen and and the notion is it that basically up near the analogy that that there, by that we were learning with at the time gave- was that you know it

her child, and you come out of the woman. You see the first thing that people are caring for you. They give you, you know shot Now you're saying the baby from their perspective is saying, you know, how is it that this person, who's supposed to care for me, is actually injecting me with a needle and causing me pain. But what that you know child doesn't understand, Is that that's? Actually you know, I'm a vaccine or drunk that's gonna help prevent them from future suffering and so near. The notion was is that you have to have no faith in God and then obviously the rituals that you go through are something that you were there. To try to bring you closer to God and and closer together as a family and- and we just explored it to and I think that there are certain things that we chose to take on and certain things we didn't feel comfortable taking on. But what we were able to do is to create a lifestyle that we were very comfortable with and that yeah? We felt allowed us to optimize. Both fur prefer for me,

and for happiness and then obviously the values that we want to build a family around, and so we were very blessed in that regard. So now it's shifting how it is working inside the Trump Administration, with President Trump directly you go from being in the business world running around business to suddenly you're working for Donald Trump, who, from the outside it is to be an interesting bob Well, what does it like to work with, as putting a mildly? How is it to work with President Trump on a daily basis? What is it that people on the outside get rid, about it and what is it the people on the outside get wrong about working within for President Trump Sue. I think the best description from an extra Point of view that I saw after the last election was a woman wrote that the media took Donald Trump literally, but not seriously, but the voters. Seriously, but not literally- and you know what I understand.

About him, as is first I'll, say it's been absolute. You know thrill working with them, I think he's obviously a brilliant person. Now he can have accomplished everything that he's accomplished in his life. Without being, you know, brilliant person- and you know I've also- you know gone through this experience with him of seeing him. You know a debt. politics and then also adapt to being president and continue to grow and make decisions. What he's really done is he's increase the metabolism of of government In a tremendous way, right he's very demanding as boss, and during that you know the cream rises and I'm not going to say a bad word, but that sinks you know along the way, but what he is able to. do is, is it is really. For results, and so what he finds that he's very trusting of of the different no bed agency, heads or people is hiring to do option. You know he likes to agree with them on what you know. the goal is, and then he gives them a fair amount of latitude to try to accomplish it. Unless it's something that he's in Germany.

we focused on then I'll have very strong points of view on how to do it, but for me work with him. I find that you know it, so it's very instinct to watch your work, you no other leaders to watch and work. You know, members of Congress, he likes to keep people off balance. I think that's where he finds his strategic advantage. I've seen him again maneuver, some of the toughest and smartest world leaders that we deal with because again he's trying to always fight for America's interests, but he's the first president that really understands. I think America, american power, the power that we have it call and and make a lot of politicians are and to stay away from uncertainty. They see uncertainty as an enemy, because the media jumps all over them here. Used uncertainty as as a weapon, and I think he's use that to create outcomes that you know many people didn't think would be possible and then just on a personal level. I find that every day is different. You know

never know what issue he sees on. You know he's not a lot of people try to manage a boss, you know he's not a boss, that's manage bullion, oh, he likes to get information from from a lot of different sources, and I think that that's a healthy thing, because again he doesn't want. You know a filtered point of view. He'll want to speak to you, know tons of people and that's, I think, a very good thing and then again he's common sense and he's not afraid to take on fights. You know. Sometimes we you know wish he took out a few less fights, but the reality is: is he viewed it like? He was given this opportunity from the american people to lead the it is a country in the world, and now he's gonna, say Every minute of every day. You know fighting to try to push forward on the issue he cares about whether it's a small issue are big issue. He's gonna be pushing Our so he's very demanding a monitor, its truly a twenty four seven job. Ok calls at one o clock in the morning: I'll get calls at five o clock in the morning and, know one wonder the latest on this, and sometimes also how. Why is he thinking about this issue at this mode

in time, but yeah he's a very prolific reader. He sees always thing on top of the news and and what, happening, and so it's it's quite funny, and I the the one final thing is that he's? Actually, funny to and and so you know, when you're with him, he has a great sense of humor and and I find the media doesn't do a good job, a to lose their sense of humour when it comes to him, but you know he'll be Sarka, sticker hold Joe, but he's got a very good sense of irony and and and it's never boring, and I I will just say no. Finally, that you know, I think that you know I've been blessed to work with some incredible people at the White House. If you look at the people who are really you know at the campaign and that now have worked all the way through their. As you know, a very core group of people who really love the president, understand the president and who are you know, devoted to helping him see through what he started, and I would say that that grew spin. You know incredibly successful and yeah. I guess you need to know how politics was before I got here. I began. I was never something

focused on us as closely. But I guess there's. Maybe a new thing of trying to vilify the people you know around a principle, not just a principle now in politics, but know these are all people who making a lot more money working a lot less seeing their families more. But they don't do that. You know they take the abuse They work for lower salaries and could be making and they work twenty four seven, because they believe that this is worth fighting for and it's very much of the inspiration for me to be able to work with such incredible people and again me up last. Four years, if you take off the emotion out and take all the crazy things like they investigated us a couple years- and I saw these great people- haven't get lawyers and do depositions. Something that we had nothing to do with, which was you know the threat of. The allegation of Russia Collusion and in everyone's stuck in the pocket- and they

They knew that what they were fighting for is good, but if you look at just the results that we achieved obviously pre pandemic and I think that we're seeing the recovery go very quickly thanks again the stimulus and the leadership of the president and the job that this this is done to make sure. that the pandemic was less severe than it would have been otherwise and that the economic fallout has been a. severe than has been another country's, I think I saw them. The median household income, you know, grew by almost six times. genuine in his three years, what it did in the previous eight years beforehand than we are seeing now. The way that we are seeing now one thing I always with politicians. They talk about a case shape recovery. Now, where the wealth gap is increasing, the wealth gap was increasing for the fifteen years before over the first three years of President President, the wealth gap was decreasing for the first time in decades, because you had the people on the the workers were getting their their wages the fastest. I do think we're on our way back to that

economy and obviously the pandemic is- is a beggar once in a century type of type of type type of challenge that our countries really stepped up to the two to the plate. And I said, has done a lot of things to to combat it. But I do think that we're gonna come out of this even stronger is, if you think, about strength globally. It's really more of a relative thing than an absolute thing and as our economy grows much quicker, as as the strength that we, put into place. You know, manufacturing, wise and and getting dependencies and and and choosing our economy. I think that will lead to America being in an and a stronger relative place in the world than it's been especially These trade deals that we ve made of last year's kick in the deregulation stone plays the lower taxes are still in place, and I think that dead, that's a very exciting couple chapters ahead. If we stay the course Just a second want to ask you about the administration's handling of Covid nineteen, but first lots of people are targeting

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trusting that there is political isolation of the covered response that, for some reason, the administration was treating blue states tariff differently than red states. I was wondering if you could respond to that end overall, the Covid nineteen response. I would see to me? I've been saying for while it seems sort of one I one say avenue is the actual policy which I think is quite good or as good as you can expect from the federal government. and the second is the rhetoric which seems to have been incredibly confused. The message was shifting fairly often, how can but how do you think Americans ought to write? The cuban nineteen responds one of the factors that they should take into account. So look it's it's a big challenge. For the world right. Every country's had different challenges and put on them, and I think it's also an unprecedented situation. You have to think about how our governments you know geared to respond in our situation was. Is that you know we were told that if we didn't

certain actions there would be, you know upwards of two million. You know, Americans, that would that would die and and and what they asked the president to do was basically to shut down. You know the greatest economy that our country had seen a long time and president Trump but obviously losing one life is too many. So we took those very strongly and then what we saw was a series of of fears that that were being hyped every day in the media. whether it was the fact that our frontline workers weren't going to have enough asks and gloves and gowns and all of these items people were going to die because they weren't going to get ventilators. He wasn't going to be enough hospital capacity and then what we did is we just you know one by one. We dealt with every governor, whether it Red state, Governor Blue state governor mean the stories that came out in others once that Vanity Fair, which which was a total- they didn't even reach out to the White House, and they have nothing to substantiate their claim that we politicize this or that we were just dealing with red state governors

Actually, Governor Murphy and Governor Cuomo's chief of staff, both went on the record in a subsequent article. They didn't call them obviously to say that it wasn't true, but I mean there was a period of thirty days where I probably spoke to Andrew Cuomo once or twice a day. Every day I spoke to Governor Murphy or his chief of staff every day and we were just problem solving in real time, because it wasn't something that any of us had experience doing, but it was about making sure that we were pinpointing process once that working towards it, and so now, when we see on the news, you know where doctors from from the public health sector New York City saying that they were running at a mask I admit, got on the phone myself with have the public health system and said you know are you guys out of mass, he says no we're not at a mass, but we have a one week supply. I said well how many mass are you burning through a day, and

gave me the number I say well look just tomorrow: you'll have delivered to you a one month, supply of n ninety five masks and we'll get it to you and they were very appreciative. So what we did is we kept trying to find the bottleneck and then solving them, and what happened? Was you had a lot of hoarding in the system right? A lot of countries have a nationalized health, which is why they provide poor health and health care, then, here in in We have much more private sector driven healthcare, healthcare service providers, as well as the logistics and distribution. private sector. So what we did was we very quickly you know figured out where was, and we created a control tower approach. We brought in the top military professionals legislations people who are extra. that would just six to help us do this and again it was frustrating the polarization and that we had senators who basically everyday, would say this bringing in a general who's great at logistics, we're saying what we did. We had an admiral who is greater logistics. You know working their sad and then they were set.

you need to have a plan, we had plans, we worked on these with the governors and we made sure testing ramped as quickly as possible and then again, they'll always be people who will be critical. But by and large we met the challenge, as they were able to do, and obviously, we judge ourselves both in absolute terms, did we meet the challenge, but also being a relative to our p and we've outpaced a lot of our peers countries in almost every regard, and so you know it's been a big challenge, but also America. The president believes in the Federalist system, which is that you know you, obviously to work with the different governors. Some governors were very competent. Some governors were less competent, but our job was just to constantly try to get them the resources they need and to help them learn how to do the different tasks that are required through that process, and so again I think that when history looks back on this, they'll realize that when you take all the different factors into account,

I do believe that the federal government rose to the challenge and death and I think that we we did have a pretty good job of getting near the stuff that was needed to the places where needed and making sure that we had the right awareness and and the right leadership to spread the information. But obviously it was a very time and in many regards so let's talk about the the the. Now, obviously, we look at the national polling and we're recording this in the middle of October a couple weeks into October. And in the national polling. The president is down double digits in most polls by the real, clear politics poll average he's running competitively in a lot of the swing states, but he seems to be down in the mid particularly in some of these states. That should not be swing. States are pulling really closely adsense the present impose ahead of Joe Biden. What people say there Lamborn issue the economy again their supposed. It shows that a vast majority I can say that better off now, there were four years ago: sing for a while on the show and publicly that it seems like

this is almost entirely referendum on how people proceed from personally that, if you were to look at the trouble administration policy Americans David Citizen pulling like trumps policies, better, they binds policies They seem to have serious reservations about Trump, as as a human being and, namely public persona, twitter, the constant feeling of of chaos and all his wont. You say to Americans who are concerned about how the president's approaches this sort of stuff and what can you say to make them more quiescence out of considering again that that is a bridge that is, I think, think gonna have to be. There is gonna have to get this gonna have me bridge nor for president, when real action, right. So what I would say is that lucky is who he is, and I think that the president has been this way for a long time. He ran. You know exactly you know being who he was last time people like to and over over the last years he's no, he hasn't changed and become somebody else and he's also kept all his promises

along the way and from a governing point of view, he did exactly the things that you did exactly the things that he said he was going to do. I mean today, as worth talking on the hill. They have the hearings for the third Supreme Court Justice, the the president. He promise going can appoint justices from a list because a lot of conservatives weren't sure you know You know if the president shared their same beliefs and he says well, you know he came up with an unconventional political idea, which was, let me give out a list and I'll show you who I would choose from and he put out that list and he selected. From his less every time there's been a vacancy on the court. Now thinking a lot of things, the voters know what he's gonna do and I think that you know people I have very little tolerance for politicians who say one thing and do something else and- and I think at the end, They know what Trump, what they're gonna get, which I think is a good thing and what I'll just say now is that look we very similar thing in two thousand sixteen, and I think that obviously too close

election right now than it should be given where the economy was prepared dynamic, but I do think we're recovering. Well, I think, if you look at all the different states again, I spent the last couple days talking dollar different state direct they're all telling me they feel like they're in better shape in their states, and they were in two thousand, and sixteen at this time and so you know we'll see a lot's going to happen. I always say a day in the world of Trump is an eternity, but three weeks in the world of Trump is definitely an eternity, and so I think he told me at one point,

I think my new cycle at this point is about two hours, so you know it's it's a different world then, and I do think that its also independent who votes- and I think that he's got a lot of people throughout the country who are very motivated to get out there and get out there and vote. I also thank you, have a situation where we have a lot of people who support him, but they don't want to fight you think about. You know the abuse that people take a last night we were talking. There is a police chief who was fired in Pennsylvania because his wife posted on Facebook that she was voting for trump because he was the only candidate who supported law enforcement and the police. You ve got fired for doing that. I think you a lot of people who are afraid to say that they're for because they've been bullied by the media and that's not what we should be doing in a tolerant society. I think people should be able to express their points of view, but what I find in Washington, like the lowest form of defense of defence, is when you are losing the argument you just oh, that person's a racist or that person's an anti semite and the amount of people

I've. Seen who have been totally unhinged when they kind of make delegations towards the president without looking at his record on either. Issue is just very disappointing to me and I think that people like that actually degrade the discourse in our country. So you have you? Don't like that, the president, tweets, are communicates with people on social media. I would tell you it's the opposite. The one of the benefits of you know this as you know, is that you always know what he's thinking you know who had at any time just have to now. Whenever I get all from him. The first thing I do is I go and I like twitter to say what you ve been. Yet what do you think it about right now, and I think that that's actually, you know in a lot of ways a good thing in soap. Look, I obviously a lot of faith in the american people they'll make the right decision and- and I think that you know will be an exciting couple weeks ahead. and so in a second I'm to ask you about what the closing plan is, because there's only only couple weeks until the election, I? What is the closing messaging going to be my first I'm about you, I'm spending an awful lot of chinese days consuming media, but is watching tv or whether it is listening to other people's podcast. I want more

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Let's talk about the closing plan for Trump's trumps, reelect effort, so you mentioned Twitter I am definitely definitely member of the coder that says that I wish the president would drop his phone in the toilet, and I wish that the message- from the White House where a lot more singular, because what president is on teleprompter, whether it's a state of the union address or whether he is speaking in Eastern Europe. Those speeches are the high points of his president would say that probably three quarters of the low point of his presidency have been things that get tweeted. Then immediately become a new cycle for a week that are certainly thing. where the media take comments, that he makes and spend them completely out of context. Most obvious example being the bizarre assumption that he was not denounced its supremacy. When he literally said he would enough what supremacy on a stage with Joe Biden just a couple of weeks ago, but what it given the fact that we are now in a short time frame. that there has to be really one singular message going forward to the election. What what is from closing pitch going to be not only himself because the record is pretty good but against Joe Biden in particular, because it seems like

lot of the twenty sixteen election was reliance on the fact that there is a wellspring of deep antipathy for Heller. in the american public had been built up for decades. Previous, she was by poll numbers the most unpopular politician in America, Joe Biden, there's not the same sort of antipathy. So what is the campaign against Biden? Look like in order to put him in the spotlight a little bit, so Biden is obviously different than Hillary Clinton. You know people don't hate him as much. But he also has an accomplished anything. And so you don't people look at him its forty seven years of you know just kind of around government and being on every side of every issue. I think that the binding campaign is basically saying well, you know you failed on coal and then basically saying, but if we're elected will do absolutely nothing different right, I mean they laid out their whole plan for what they would do, which is basically everything that we've done, which the media doesn't cover and I do think the accomplishments that the president had, especially towards you getting the vaccine and in record time, and all these therapeutics has been incredible,

Trumps argument is look. If you liked me I'll give you the greatest economy you ve ever seen, and I did it once. I built a great caution: You were doing while your family was doing well, a lot of that still in place If you like me are very often I could do it again. I think that's really you're the balance I think much deeper, what you're seeing with the media and a lot of Washington, is that in a Washington doesn't like outsiders again. A lot of you know why I was a threat to Washington is because you know somebody who's focus on results and process results and and and how do you know, drive things to an outcome. You know Washington is focused on unprocessed. It's people focused on how do you just go forward and then ultimately not get a lot done, but President Trump's fraud, accountability he's brought a different sensibility, he's destroyed a lot of the institutions he's not going to their cocktail party.

Not playing by the rules, he's not here doing what the Washington media, the Washington politicians not acting in the way they want em to, and they don't like that, and so you know a big part of of what this represents as they feel like they missed it. time. They they they allowed President Trump to get in and- and and, and they want to do everything possible this time to make sure that he doesn't get another chance, but I do feel like after four years you know the presence gonna locked but he also really now knows how Washington works. He's also brought him a lot of and traditional people Washington right. So you think about the people who are traditionally qualified. How are you qualified to be in Washington right? You usually having worked in Washington before so all the people worked for the Bush dynasty year. They work for the Clinton dynasty so knows. All the same thing right now. They may be a blue shirt or red shirt, but they really were on the same team and I think the american people saw it left less last election as a left versus

election. I think they saw more as an inside versus outside election, and I think, you'll have a lot of the same. And I actually think that the media and a lot of the people in Washington help the President, because what happens is if he does make mistakes, he's not perfect but but they always overreact and over pursue and they expose kind of the and and kind of know what they're trying to protect year, which is kind of their kingdom of influence, and by doing that, I think our people see that they have somebody who's. You knows truly fighting for them versus people who are kind of trying to take power for themselves, and that- and I think that that's really what a big part of this will also come down to, and so Now. This is what I call the swamps last stand. Then I think that this is really the last chance for the american people, really have an outsider in Washington and hopefully, when the president wins he'll, be in a position where he'll I just accelerate the changes that he that he

able to make and really during the swamp and and truly bring you no power in America back to the american people and take it away from the inside who have had it for for decades and quite frankly, have sent their jobs overseas, who have got us into all these endless wars. One of the things I see with the president is the amount of resistance he gets when he's trying to you know make these peace deals or bring the troops home. I mean the resistance in Washington is tremendous, and so you do have a million Terry Industrial, complex. You do have a lot of people who you know who don't want to see these wars end, but you know everyone. The last election said that if President Trump was elected, you know immediately, we go into world were three well, you know look at. What's happened over three and a half years now and he's he's made peace deals, the the people before him started wars and he's bringing the home and he's started no wars. You know he

hasn't send jobs overseas he's made trade deals that of actually brought jobs home, and so you know it's a real difference in that's a real threat, I think, to the Washington establishment and so obviously they're fighting him now with everything they have so obviously there's that you mentioned draining the swamp and there's. This accusation has been put out there by the media that the admin- nation has engaged in Self Julia one. Given the chance to rebut that accusation So again, you know that the biggest difference between the Trump family- and I would say you know a lot of the politicians is that you know the trump He was a business family. They were doing very well financially, they were making money, my wife, myself and all our of our endeavours and the president we gave those never up, and we gave up our ability to make money to go and do public service a lot of other people get into public service and then become wealthy them and their families become wealthy off of that So you know again, especially in the first years there were all these allegations of potential conflicts of interests or areas where there could be compromised but

after four years nobody's actually found any areas where and you think anyone's done anything wrong and so, no again when we came into government, we looked at for me personally in my wife, we looked at. We spoke to the ethics lawyers. We said, you'd tell us what we need to divest. We ended up the best thing, all those things my wife had her company, which was making a five hundred million dollars dollars year in revenue is a fast growing company she gave up said she could devote herself full time. I d the government of one of the things I joke is that she had a mission driven company that was making money. She gave up the company and she was praise for it by all the liberal media, and then she gave up the company to just focus on a mission, and then the media turned against her because they saw as a threat in that regard, and- and so I look at all these things- and I say that you know it's- it's obviously come at a great costs due to myself financially to the term family, to do this service, but but we all believe that has been incredibly worth it. You think about the impact we ve been able to make so many p.

I know people ask me all the time you know what's been my favorite part about being a government, and I always say that the thing that I've enjoy the most is is working on the clemency issues with president right, where you take you know case and before him and are able to make a pitch fur. Why somebody who s life in prison deserves to be let out and the president will take the time study had analyze. It asked probing questions, but you have a lot of cases like yellow Gallus Johnson, where he decides. Let me give this person a second chance and you save that person's life and So you think about sacrifice that you make and then you think you're making peace deals that are going to keep american troops safer and more

in the Middle EAST, you no more safe, you think about it. Obviously doing trade deals that are gonna bring. You know millions of jobs back to America than you think about your doing criminal justice reform. That's gonna, give you know, people more hope. Second, chance create less crimes and communities, and these are just a few small examples of things that we ve been able to work on fear a few years. So I do believe that the benefits that the countries receive having an executive as its leader from having business people you know were going through. This has been tremendous and I think, for you know fur from myself and fur for the fair for the term family. You know we don't feel bad for us we look at it and say, even though we've been harassed with investigations and accused of all these things, which they didn't do the financial sacrifice and and obviously the fights that we have had to endure. had been well worth it because in life, every opportunity has a cost, and I think that the costs that we that we ve been dared to do this

that is very small relative to the opportunity that we had to make an impact on so many different areas of importance that I've benefited a lot of people here in America and throughout the world. I will say that when your wife shut down her clothing company, my wife was very, very upset about it because she has shut there I shop at the quality company a lot. So I want to ask you about how your family has dealt with all of the pressure, but first, if you're, an investor one thing, that's very important being in early on innovative companies, don't you wish that you in early on some of the best performing ipos of two thousand and nineteen and twenty twenty well with our crowd. Accredited investors have access to invest directly easily and, most importantly, early hour crowd? Investors have benefited from our crowd. Companies appealing like beyond meat or being

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body whose apparently, within a three foot radius radius of the president A becomes of the coterie of the targeted have you been able to deal with that as a family. I think it look the first six months, It was more it maybe a little harder, because the notion was. Is that no again- make naughty sacrifices, giving up in a great lives and young great opportunities in great opportunities. Do wealth creation to go to Washington and do service. So why Is there so much criticism for for doing that, but very quickly. We realize that that's just the game. And the way it is in your line of the people were critical. They don't know us their day. They don't dab, they don't damn

what we're doing or why we're doing yet? And so you know you tend to just block it out pretty quickly. I do think it speaks. You know volumes of of people, those who are so filled with hatred and and and debt and poison that they go to such great length. To be so critical and so cruel to people, but yet look one of the blessings and I've many blessings in life is that I feel hatred for four for nobody, and so I want everyone. Do well, and I think that that something that you just have to push forward do so again. You know we all have to feel like were pushing we're done things and in. I always believe that, at the end of the day, you know will be judged not Based on you, know, one store. What story was in the news one day, or you know what some random center random celebrity says about. You will be judged by our accomplishments, and so you know one of the things that I'm very

personally, as you know, the whole country was was melting down after the that the tragic death of George Floyd- and I had a lot of you- know, liberal friends saying you know, history is going to judge one way or the other, and you said to my team. I said, look know people will always remember this time and some people were out marching in streets. Some people were doing very bad things and looting and destroying neighbourhood. Some people are sitting at home by virtue signalling on social media and doing videos crying about injustice. I said you know Willow, Israel, for that we were here and now in the mind, working away, trying to find solutions, and that so we did, I mean we, we worked with with law enforcement. We worked with some families of victims of police brutality. We brought people together at the White House. We worked on some policies and the President again Congress did what Congress usually does, which is nothing they they made. A bunch of people were kinda cloth

go and Neil in the capital and you and it was probably virtue- suddenly signalling to a degree that was maybe even embarrassing for politicians, but at the end of the day they got nothing done and they couldn't do anything. Well, we got an executive order done that that that focused on what are the problems. The problems were. Is that a lot of these police departments didn't? Have you no standards training that were modernized and we came up with a mechanism not that we can nationalized lawn forest where we can incentivize police departments to update and upgrade their standards based on modern standards that were created by law enforcement because again, law enforcement wants to earn the trust of the unity, and so we're going to announce pretty soon that we have thousands of of police departments throughout the country that are now adopting those standards, whereas the previous administration? They held a com, and in that commission. When I read the report- and they said you, this is gonna- be the greatest day and law enforcement, because this isn't just a brief,

that's gonna sit on a shelf. This is something that's gonna change things, and then we look back out of like eighteen, zero police departments in the country, fifteen implemented their recommendations, one five and at and end the day, it's it's like Washington, at its worst, where near you have a woman. The good thing is this people here you know they they get distracted very easily, so people get focused on something and then a moose, but you know my teams tried to be focused on. How do you actually see you know now? give in to the hysteria. How do you cheap calmness calmness? How do you keep a calm head and focus on? What's the problem? What's achievable solution? How do we bring the stake holders to the table and I think that's going to be emblematic of you know most of the the the the the president's you know when when Bob Woodward, you know call if you want to do the book now he said: well, what do you think does I want to do something different? I said you can can write the same book as everyone else, which is what I would call

You know the you know the drama of White House in and out. I said, but that's what I call the surface. I said if you want to write a real book you should actually take. These are all the things that accomplished and then right back and say how were so many things that have been talked about in Washington for decades, but not accomplished actually accomplish than now. Obviously, he chose the more sensational path because that's what sells books but the real is is that people should study this administration for its effectiveness, because again, the president renegotiated the trade deals more deregulation and again, in the year before the President be came into office, Six million man hours were spent in our economy, complying with new regulations and then for his first three years each year was a year. You had the first year in particular, was the first year ever that there had been a decrease in the cost of regulation, and then that came down that unleashed american business, where energy independent for the first time as a country. Thanks to what the president's done

at once that that means that no people's gas prices are lower, their home heating prices are lower and we don't have to be entangled, did Middle EAST and all of these, these these these endless wars. I look at what my wife did: we're focusing on getting stem education grants available for all the public schools that people could start learning the language of the sure in computer science and education than all the skills, retraining programmes that she's been doing to focus on the industry. These that are being you know, disaggregated because of the industrial revolution and the businesses that are being created. And figuring out. How are we training Americans for the problems of tomorrow business people? Think about

where things are going and how do you make sure there get there and how do you have voiced problems and sees future opportunities? Politicians wait till there's a big problem and then they figure out. How can we blame each other for the problem and spend no time focusing on solution? So you know we ve been able to implement a lot of policies that will really lead to America being stronger for many decades to come, and I do believe the gun that, if the president's given for more years, you'll see an increase in catalan asian of those fritz were again, and I think that the goal that we ve set through through the teams that have been studying it is normally productivity, drops off in a second term, but I do think knowing president from second term, he can be twice as effective based on you know, everything that that that he's learned in and the quality of people that he's now surrounding himself with so final question, three Jared cushion I'm and ask what does a second from term look like? What's on the

but if you'd like to hear Jared Kushner's answers, you have to be a daily wire member head on over to daily wire com. Click join join the top of the page. You can hear the rest of our conversation over there Jared question. We appreciate the time and good luck in the final weeks of the campaign. Thank you. Very much ban could be with you, the bench appear, Ojo Sunday Special is produced by math, is clever executive producer, Jeremy boring our technical directorate is often Stevens, and our assistance to record is possible. Why dusky associate producer Nick she hit? Our guests are built by Caitlin. Major editing is by Jim nickel. Audio is mixed. I might call me to care and make up this binding at Geneva. Harold that's. My Cynthia angle, the bench a bureau show Sunday Special, is a daily wire production, copyright, gaily wire, twenty twenty.