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hey trailing indicator of where we are on this virus net is the death count. The death count in New York was very high at last night.
The death count overall in the United States was very high yesterday, but that is because we are moving quickly toward the peak, so the death count tends to lad. The actual number of infections had been identified by a significant amount of time anywhere for from week to two weeks last night we saw over eighteen hundred Americans debt over the course of the
state, which is a big number. I mean, is definitely a big number normally in Amerika about seventy five hundred Americans die in a given day, so adds that eighteen hundred Americans, although deaths from other clauses down fairly soon.
Evidently, because everybody is staying in a resigning car crashes, for example, overall
right now, the United States has suffered around thirteen thousand deaths and virtually all of those have accrued. In the last two weeks, we have well over four hundred thousand cases. The majority of the cases that have been identified, or at least the vast plurality of the cases have been identified, have been identified. New York hundred forty two thousand cases identified in New York Overview
thousand deaths in New York, approaching six thousand deaths in New York. New York is indeed the epicenter above. Is this followed by New Jersey
What what's been kind of amazing is look at the contrast between New York and
in California and other highly popular state which to date has still seen under five hundred deaths in the state of California
and the Lahti on orders that went into place in California went down three four days earlier than lockdown orders that went into place in New York. Maybe a week earlier on the on the very
side and place like San Francisco. With all of that said, the big factor here is, then: not only did California lockdown
very quickly. California also is much more spacious. Their people are out in suburbia. People are not on top of each other
and where they are in areas with public transportation networks that are used in enormous
sure. That's why you're seeing big optics in Detroit basically population density is a fairly good indicator that you're going to get a fairly large way because people are
fighting each other. Meanwhile, over in the U K, Boris Johnson remains in intensive care for the second straight day. He apparently is not
ventilators he apparently is on some sort of supplemental oxygen Johnson
and stable condition he's breathing without the help of ventilator. According to a government spokesperson, fifty five year old has not been diagnosed with pneumonia, but is indeed receiving
soon, so that is the latest on Boris Johnson now I said there was some good news and in fact there is some very, very good news, a lot of good news actually,
Today I mean in as good as the news can be in the middle of a global pandemic, but the news is gets up your member that I am making model, but I've been talking about all week, long
meantime the modelling and how uncertain modeling is and what that means for how we get out of this and we're gonna get to what all of the new data means for how we get
out of this, how we reopen the economy and go back to some form of life in just a few minutes.
But the iron issue model has been downgraded again again over the course of the last five days
the eighty model from the University of Washington, which is a curve fitting model, meaning what they do. Is they look at all the data coming in from different areas, and then they train draw occur
to fit the curves that their seeing in other areas as more data comes in then they are. They are changing the dear curve to fit the data that is coming in
Finally, there relying on blue hand data and there were lying on ITALY data and turns out that data was outlying data or not properly,
put it in the case of China, and so they were really overestimating what the peak would be. It looks like
are also really over there really underestimating how fast the peak would arrive. It looked as, though is taken the while Fort for things to build two, because it did take a while in ITALY, but that's because their hospital resource use was complete.
Overwhelm, so they have now down braided the bottle again, the I make sure University of Washington model. Remember they just a name from a hundred thousand sweetwater. Fifty thousand deaths by the beginning of August will now they are suggesting that the total number of deaths in the United States, which they pay
ninety three thousand as last Friday, and then they downgraded to eighty two thousand a Monday. Their negative now dropped dramatically again. That has now dropped to sixty thousand four hundred and fifteen, so it has dropped by fully one third, since Friday
and that is because the new data is coming it now again. They they were, they were already gearing for
everybody lockdown that was one of the actual provisions of their studied. The study was was done with the assumption
was locked down through the end of may now, isn't it
lock down through the and may I think, that's pretty highly unlikely, considering that we are only at the beginning of April, like going for another six weeks on this thing seems rather uncertain, but with that
said. The question is why the variability in their own model right? Why did the curve changed so much so either? They underestimate the impact of people walking down, meaning that people walking down really spread the transmission rates and it's a factor of the transmission rates, not the death rate.
That there are only a few factors here? That would really be impacting the number of deaths total right. There's the transmission right, meaning what city the? Let's hear that you have that you hold the death rate. Concentrated effort is one percent, but the transmission rate is like
three times so you're going to, in fact, three people, so that means tons of people get infected and tons of people die because you ve infected alot of people, even if the death rate is the same as, for example, the flu, and so that is one possibility. Another possibility is that the death rate themselves or overestimated, meaning that
transmission rate was that the transmission rate was not as high as previously thought, but they thought the more people are dying of it than were actually dying of it and then the third possibility is they thought that if people stayed home, then
they would still be going out meeting other people, but didn't change that factors. What that really suggests is that either this thing is not quite as transmissible as they had originally supposed or the death rate based on actual case numbers is not as high as previously supposed and these
funds are really vital. It is really important know the answers to these questions because
but we know the answers to these questions were not going to know how to roll out or recover
play, we're not gonna know, should we let tons of people out, because what if a huge percentage of the population is already here,
this thing. What of thirty percent of the population is already have this thing right? As
We are seeing in New York City, as the number of tests goes up, so the number of of posit
of actually seen something: a forty five, forty six percent positive rate for people who are coming in four corona virus tests in New York. Now again that self selected randomly selected those people who are coming in with symptoms, but that does it just pretty widened and broad spread.
Of this thing a so. They have also downgraded the number of deaths per day in terms of the peak so like three days ago, there are suggesting that the peak was going to happen. I believe the April fifteen and they'd suggested over three thousand ass, like thirty three hundred deaths on that day. Instead, there now projecting that the highest day of death is going to be on April twelfth and will be twenty two hundred deaths, which
a lot lower like a lot lower, and then it will quickly drop off to the point where we are experiencing double digit deaths. If this model holds which again, they been dropping it consistently. So we hope that they continue to drop it. If this model were to be the one that actually holds. If this were accurate, then we would be dropping into double digit deaths by May twenty. First,
right, which is very, very good news? Also, when it comes to the resources that are used same sort of deal, they dream
equally downgrade the number of budget that will be needed. The number of ICE Eu budget they'll be the number of inspectors they'll be needed. Remember they had been suggest.
Only twenty nine thousand ventilators would be needed during peak resource use, which we in three days April, eleventh
now, they are saying they only sixteen thousand five hundred ventilators right, which is a dramatic decrease. Almost fifty percent a same thing with the with the number of total hospital beds. Did they dropped that two hundred? Forty thousand now it's done. Ninety four thousand, I see you bad seem sort of deal. They don't need, I think, was fifty thousand summit.
As you birds, they drop that Jonah nineteen thousand, so the models are continually being reduced, and that does suggest that there is some data that
entered into these models. Originally, that is not right now. Does that mean that
one got ya know it doesn't mean. I was wrong. The lock down right now the questions gonna be how we get out of this name, which is much more important than what
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We are now seeing in other good news that we are. We are not actually being overrun en masse terms, so one of the reasons to flattened curve was to prevent us from being overrun was rent hospitals from being short on ventilators rationing of ventilators shore, nice Eu Beds, short on medical resources and, as it turns out well, there have been hiccups in the process because distribution is never even or easy right. If the federal government has ruined we're gonna hand, you a thousand ventilators that doesn't
in their going go directly to the hospital department that is necessary over the course of the next twenty four hours when, as we have seen with virtually every government, has asked a response. There are just hold ups in the in the distribution chains. The sort of stuff is very common rights. What
in import, Regalantuomo, shipping bottles over their battles, water and then six months later, with everybody not having water on the tarmac, they're, just millions bottles water. That sort of stuff does happen fairly. Frequently. With that said, the response to the federal government overall has been quite good. Here. Is my pants yesterday listing
supplies had been delivered. The New York Metro area, including New Jersey, just in the last five days, a more
six million and ninety five mass, more than six million surgical masks and two point: eight million guy
were distributed to that region as well
going next to New Orleans, some eight hundred and thirty, seven thousand and ninety five mass for health workers. Hundreds
five surgical mass,
other items, including almost six million, gloves event distributed just in the last five days. One point: six million and ninety five mask admin rooted into the healthcare system in Detroit
Nearly seven hundred thousand surgical mass then
twenty four million gloves just as a portion of what's displayed, dies right.
Number ventilators ventilators then sweaters thence letters. It turns out that on Monday night, both Cuomo and build a blog YO claim that the need had been met for ventilators in the state. So there's all this time,
well ventilators and how we are going to be splitting ventilators and rational resolution. That may still happen in particular areas if those areas, as he sudden spikes, for example, not been distributed, but given Newsome in California, has announced that you ve been working with state governments all over the place to purchase on mass events, letters the United States government support
to be developing a hundred thousand ventilators. That's Hemingway more than we need like way way way more than one that should go in the federal stockpile. That's a good thing by the way is on about it. Just like we have lots of nuclear weapons we never have to use, but
should have too many ventilators on hand, and then we never have
use them, then we have to view ventilators with that said of the panic talk about how we are going
run short on ventilators the gun. The response was was fairly diesel.
Here and also, as it turns out, the estimates way off for how many ventilators
actually necessary, remembered from got ripped up and down when he suggested that when Cuomo said he needed thirty thousand a forty thousand men's letters. He thought the numbers would be a lot lowered that turns out numbering what kind of a lot Lorna so Tramell been engaging in evidence. Free happy talk by his actual gas was not wrong on that one. Meanwhile, Andrew Como came out yesterday the governor of New York. He said we have not lost a single human being because of lack of care. So for all of the talk about you
judges. We responded such that people are not dying because they are not getting the care they need. The question is: are you saving everyone you can save? And
there. The answer is yes, and I take some solace in that fact
Healthcare system is operating when I dont believe we lost a single person because we couldn't provide care,
people we lost. We couldn't save, despite our best efforts. Ok, so that is that is good. News is that we have not been overrun revenues that we what I said yesterday, God willing, we have latin the curve. Such the healthcare system has not run now. The question is: what comes next and we're hearing a constant drumbeat I've demonstration now that the numbers were way too high rate over the course of two weeks that the numbers are waging a high in terms of what they thought was going to happen now. People who think the lock downs need to be clock. Quasi problem
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the virus death toll is, can be a lot lower than we expected. If we continue to socially distance the American,
taking the social distancing recommendations to heart, and I think that's the direct consequence why you see in the members are gonna be much much much much lower. May not only that sacrifice-
she came out. He says by next week we're gonna be looking at the downside,
of the slope. Here is doctor voucher yesterday, as we do
further on beyond this week, we should
I want to see the beginning of a turn around, which is a good sign, so
you know it's very sobering to see the increase in gas and we pay
get over the weekend that this would
really be a bad weak, and it is it's gonna, be a bad weak for DAS,
driving that an ahead, and that is the fact that women
start to see the beginning of a turn around and we need to keep pushing
on the mitigation strategies, because there is no doubt that that's
a positive impact on the dynamics of the outbreak found she also
suggested one in the original models projected a hundred thousand two hundred thousand deaths. As we're getting more
and seeing the positive effects of mitigation. Those numbers are going to be downgraded right, not can be a lot less than the original projection, which again is really good. It does raise the question of. I thought that you models originally took into account. The fact that we are socially distant thinks that means another one of the other factors change.
Because, if your model right of their own there's only at Wyant, see if Ex was the the factor of social distancing. If that remain constant.
Then the model could only change of wires, eat transmission rate or death rate reminiscent those the only factors in the model there not a lot of other factors in the model, since everybody is staying home, unless you know
similarly, for some reason, you thought that these staying home was not going to mitigate this thing. Nearly as much like you assume that fifty percent of the population was gonna stay home and it turned out to be a hundred percent of the population, but they have not really said that
and you d model button- suggests that you'd inversely Washington model. So exactly what comes next? How do we get out of this well run around manuals? Brother? Is he kill? Mill is equal metals brotherhood with so is equal Emmanuel. Who is a healthcare policy expert one of the basic here, my
yesterday. He gave his dark vision. He said there'll be no religious services or dinner in restaurants for twelve to eighteen months,
Harry Harry was yesterday basically saying we're: gonna have to continue to tempt the economy until we find a vaccine which could take upwards of a year realistically
covered. Nineteen will be here for the next eighteen months or more. We will not be
able to return to normal see until we find a vaccine or effective medications,
if we prematurely and that physical distancing and the other measures keeping it at Bay Doors
could skyrocket into the hundreds of thousands, if not a million, we cannot
turn to normal until there's a vaccine conferences concerts spot.
Events, religious services, dinner in a restaurant.
I know that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment or a cure. Ok, so it may be true, but that is the case, but we
to look at how other countries are handling this, and also we are going to have to get better statistics on how this works, because they're really three questions that need to be asked first, what is the true corona virus hotel at a rate that question is really important, because a determined
Whether certain areas ought to be open or closed. Whether we ought to pursue in Sweden style, more liberalized society, the presumes, a very widespread, so, for example, if we have widespread already- and it is impossible to tamper down such that- we can actually socially trace and contact trace. Well, then, presumably would be better off just
telling everybody whose most vulnerable stay home work from home and telling everybody else go out and get it right give each other's. Rather that's kind of Sweden is doing, and right now I've been very honestly perturbed by the media coverage of what's happening in Sweden, because Sweden assume that there would be an upturn in deaths before there is down. Take. May I talked about this yesterday. The second wave is the question of what is asked where it now. Ok, we ve. Let me curve, we got it underneath.
The medical necessities. What would presume leave their second wave we're not going to match our supply chains great now. What
what happens when there's a second wave. So if all you ve done by flattening the curve is avoided some of the hospital of runs with.
Great but then there's second wave. The enemy
He's gonna get it anyway. If the assumption is everybody
and get anyway. Then you have to ask okay. So what? How long are we holding this down here when people look
Sweden, they say while they have a bigger first wave. The question is ok, but the models don't end in August. I can say that you do my one till the cows come home and I made you model a model ends August
August forth. This thing in gonna in August, for we ve been told it seasonal, which means is coming back in the fall. So what exactly
going to do when it comes back in the fall lockdown again for another, what entire winter logic.
He'll vaccine is down, and presumably January or February, at the very earliest and then produced in March and walking away from September to March, who things that's gonna, be a thing
we ve already lost thirty million jobs? You think so, who thinks? There's gonna be a thing, and so we need to find out what the true runabout virus fatality rate is knowing
in the case they rate, but those are not super accurate writer,
The reason that they are not super accurate is because the case fatality rage, presume that we know how many people have been infected, which is not correct. We don't know how many people have been
We don't actually, even though many people are dead. Right is one of the problems. So right now
There is an argument going on as to whether,
The numerator in the italian rate or the nominated or both are flawed. We know for sure that the denominators, what we know for sure that
lots more people who have grown a virus that have been tested for corona. Viruses confirmed to have grown virus right when we know that for a fact, and as will discuss in a second
people now developing tests, as they should be doing in order to it in order to get
the point where we know the answer to that question, but as so that first question has now become hot topic on Twitter, whether were over counting Kova deaths. The theory that we're over counting covered deaths is that if you do
I haven't covered that doesn't necessarily mean you died from covert of your old in your eighty five in and you get the flu, but you died from heart disease, heart failure or something does that mean you died of the floor with a vote now. Is it true that we maybe over broadly characterizing characterizing cover debts by
some ways possible mean doktor. Books did say yesterday that anyone who died with covered is measured as a covert victim, as we say in a second. It's also, I think, more significantly possible that we are under accounting called the deaths at this point. But here is doctor books talking about how we are categorizing covered
There are other countries that, if you had a pre existing condition
let's say the virus caused you to go to the icy you and then have a hard or kidney problem
countries are recording that as
heart issue or a kidney.
Shoe and not a covert nineteen death
right now we're still recording at, and we all I mean a great.
About having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as covered nineteen infection. The intent is right now that those if someone dies with covered nineteen, we are counting that as a covert nineteen
ok, so people of inciting MR suggestion that our accounts is too high because
countries are not categorizing these things that way, however, as will soon a second, there is also some pretty good evidence that accounts actually maybe significantly lower, we'll get to that in just one second. First, what
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ok. So the counter evidence to the idea that we are under counting doubts comes courtesy of Gotham Ass. They suggest that there are a lot of people dying at home. Now the city is reversed. The city of New York is reversing its position and will probably start counting Kova deaths at home, in addition to confirmed ones which will increase the count. Originally Gough message suggested that if you die at home
and I say, was probably covered that has not been included in the city council. Now they are changing that in a statement, Stephanie Buell spokeswoman for New York City Health Department said the city would no longer report only cases that were confirmed my lab test. She said the office of Chief Medical Commissioner and N Y see Health Department are working together to include in their report. Does that may be linked to covered, but not lab confirm that occur at home that the new protocol is likely to have thousands of people to the tall announcement came after New York saw the largest single they have done so far from covered seventeen. Twenty seven people-
in a twenty four hour period, but that include many of the cases in which first responders encountered someone who had already died at home or non hospital settings. Apparently that happened two hundred and eighty times on Monday, according to data from the fire department, which means that the total number of deaths would presumably be well over more about about or well over, a thousand deaths in New York City, so apparently over the last two weeks.
New York Fire Department. Facial said that over two thousand York City residents died in their homes, two thousand one hundred and ninety two compared to four hundred and fifty three during the same time period last year,
on Tuesday evening City reported three thousand five hundred forty four people died of Verona virus. So, if you're actually to include the increase in count, then you be looking in additional. Sixteen hundred over five thousand people dead in New York City alone,
as I say, the evident, seems better that we are under counting covered. That's right now, then, over accounting, those covered despot bottom line as we do
actually know the numerator in the fatality rate right now, it brings us to the denominator. Hither denominator is the really big one, because
the new right or may change, resign can change. My orders of magnitude is going to be as though there were thirteen thousand deaths in the United States. Now there are a hundred and thirty thousand deaths because we counted wrong or you may end up with thirteen thousand deaths in the United States, and maybe there are fifty
thousand deaths in the United States, its the denominator, the matters and the reason that denominator matters because number one. It gives you a better indicator of exactly what you're chances.
Are dying if you actually obtain this thing, which makes a big differences to sort of risk assessment that give you tell me right now, but if I walk outside there's one point, four percent shot that I will be hit by a car- and I are probably stay inside of you Tom,
there is a one in ten thousand shot that if I get hit by a car I'm an and that there are men and walk out, I gave my hand I probably walk out the front door rights earlier
really depends on on the denominator. Here we don't know what the denominator is right,
now- and this is where some people are working hard to put together numbers
denominator so they're so
different efforts that are being put forward along these lines, according
Signs magazine. There is an attempt by the World Health Organization called Solidarity too.
To put together Shiro survey studies. The look for antibodies to cover too in the population United States, also launching
resident in efforts once euro surveys already underway in six metropolitan areas, including York City, the hardest hit city in the United States, a second even larger one is on its heels together. They should give us
from nationwide effort to track closely how many Americans have become infected as the pandemic unfold zero survey,
may also help efforts to develop vaccines and separately attempts to devise therapies to stop the virus from causing harm scientists talk to Michael Bush, a transfusion specialist based it. You see s f, and he suggests that this is actually pretty important, because once we have your logic, testing,
then we are going to have to do that. Then we'll move the numbers better, so to visit a very good thing. Meanwhile, we are. We are learning that that there are certain people who are really attempting to promote
It promotes euro surveys and
information about how we get these antibody tests. So
we'll governor of New York. He says we ve actually developed in Anti
it s him we are starting to rule out, is a very good thing.
New York State developed. A D
has developed and Ain T body testing regimen there
department of Health has
proved for
use in New York state this
tests the blood
determine whether or not you have the eighty bodies we
means you had the virus and resolve the virus? That's why
We have the eighty bodies for the virus. That would mean that
you're no longer contagious, and you can't catch them
Iris, because you have the anti bodies in your system, which means you can get to.
Can go back to school, you can do whatever you want insult the
question is: what are we gonna do the antibodies? Has there been a couple of questions about what exactly the antibodies has? Therefore, one of those questions is: are we going to basically creates a certificate that says you can go back to work at this point? If so, is that serve a discriminatory model? Is what is one of the questions, and is that really practical- and we don't even know at this point, whether the immunity last for very long since possible that the immunity last for six months and then you get it again in September right people get them
who every year sometimes because the strains are constantly changing. With that said, the antibody tests are useful for a broader reason, and that is, we must know exactly how many people in the population of had this things, that we can tell what the best policy will be so David Neil Amman, is the founder of jet Blue and, as
Airways and his peace over Daily Delaware. That's pretty important. He writes thanks to the work of three stand for Stanford Universe.
Professors and recently FDA, approved antibody test wheels,
finally, another real size of denominator of all of those infected by cuban nineteen, and that could be the game changer we need. The denominator is the total
people have been exposed to the virus, many of whom never knew they even had it. Numerator tragically, is the total number of people have died from the disease
divide the numerator into the denominator. We get the death or case fatality rate as the fund
several airlines in four countries, my company in our industry have been particularly hard hit by the spread of cuban nineteen. Since the outbreak, I spent all my days and a lot of my knights, trying to find a solution to save as many as possible of the forty thousand jobs for which I am responsible and do what I can to help avoid. An economic catastrophe in the making
search for a solution, right rights, David Element myself personally
and has led me to three amazing and dedicated professors and scientists from Stanford University School of medicine with impeccable credentials have come to know them. Personally that
John. You notice. I not us Jaber to an errand bend of each.
Using their epidemiology models and other evidence from China, ITALY, Iceland, in the? U S, have question from the beginning. The true number of those have been infected by carbon. Nineteen have talk today about each area before on the radio shops. Everyone agrees that the number of confirmed cases reported is not a correct value for the total number of infected, but by how much recent research says that up to fifty percent of those infected our asymptomatic,
and of the remaining fifty percent eighty percent of mild symptoms and are unlikely to have been tested. This creates a confirmation,
because we're only testing for people with more with the most severe symptoms and not an innate us, but a chariot bend of eat believe that the actual number of cases
very likely off by an order of magnitude of ten or maybe even at times, many more. So why is this important?
Well, as of today, the? U S is approaching four hundred thousand confirmed cases of covert nineteen and more than ten thousand deaths. What if the stand for doctors are right when they actual numbers of those infected, is actually three million
Ten million would be a game changer unafraid against the virus. If it could be proven that twenty or thirty percent of New Yorkers were actually infected instead of less than one percent, it would tell us that the peak is closer than we think and most important case vitality. Wrote me a tiny fraction of the percentage based on deaths as a fraction of confirmed cases most important.
Formation ride. Governors, mayors and public health officials valuable new data in determining the number of ice EU beds that might be required. As of yesterday, New York had four thousand patients, and I see you Beds Governor Cuomo rightly believes that he could need thirty thousand. I see you beds at the peak of the
dammit with less than one percent of the population with confirmed cases, but if the actual number of people infected is much higher than you'd need far fewer. I see you beds, but now the FDA has approved this protest.
And while caution should be taken relying on these desk there more than sufficient for determining the correct denominator from a population,
ample so but a chariot Benda beat of started a study in Santa Clara Accounting, California using antibiotics us they ve assembled a team that collected two thousand five hundred blood samples over today's once they have the results. They're gonna compare those who test positive for the antibodies with the number of confirmed cases and give them scientific information that could predict better how many people actually have. This also unspoken is the reality, which is that of tons and tons of people. Have this then the idea
of widespread testing in contact racing is probably not the best solution, especially because again, everybody is asymptomatic, so much you're willing to put down tens of millions of test every week and then quarantine, people and socially track them. Then perhaps the best case scenario
The is the sort of Sweden scenario where we take everybody's most vulnerable. We tell them stay home and everybody else goes back out to work right. That could very well be what we are talking about right here again, because nobody knows that second wave looks like in the far right. That is the same
question to be asked when one is case, they tell any rate, one is the second wave and what exactly that looks like and then. Finally, what exactly can we do here, because once we have established the case, they tell any rate we serve to figure out. What is the second wave look like
Kennedy even be prevented and profound. She says we can be in good shape to open the schools in the fall, which is kind of an interesting take from from doktor factory. Here he was explaining that schools might be reopened
fully expect, though, I'm humble enough to know that I can't accurately predict,
that by the time we get to the fool that we will have this under control enough, that it certainly will not be the way it is now.
People are shutting schools, my optimistic side
That will be able to renew to a certain extent, but it's gonna be different itself. That is now that that is
but it does raise the question okay. So what's it all, these kids go to school and then they come home and grandpa grammar. There are like I've, gotta, get infected and valued and answer that question so, presumably what we're gonna, I think in the end, we're gonna end up with a quick and dirty policy, but there's a lot of time
about widespread testing, a national corona border surveillance Systems of Europe have community spread and if it turns out that as people suspect far more people are infected than we currently think. Will then what you gonna end,
What is there's nothing we can do about community infection is already out there. The case they tell you right is low. We have tremendous
medical resources that have now been made available. The thing died after the summer prepare for the second wave and peace,
for most vulnerable need to stay home. I think that, probably where we end up in terms of practical policy and in terms of the economy, that probably is not
the worst thing again. This is why we need more data data data Data data. I did this sounds a lot better than men. There should be real unease over the fact that there are so many people who are looking out to create a national grown vice virus surveillance system, like
what no that's gonna look like many of you were worried about the invasion of privacy that was attendant on nine eleven, then I think that we should be a little bit worried about the invasion of privacy that its attendant on we're, going to survive,
Will you everywhere? You go if you test positive work, wonders or if you have a fever because again these tests, but what they like the dirty little secret years. The court of justice are not supremely accurately. Twenty percent of people who are testing for this thing negative are actually positive for grown a virus. There are not two primly accurate
his point. Ok, so I was going to get you more uncrown a virus, and perhaps we still well, but I would be remiss of me not point out that in breaking news, Bernie Sanders has dropped out of the race, so that is a thing that has now happened: brilliant, brilliant
That's their that Bernie Sanders wait until after that, Wisconsin primary, like the day after the Wisconsin primary, where it was,
is who's going. It shall act anyway to drop out, so lots of people waited in line thanks to dramatic confusion over what should be done during a primary during the covered nineteen era, and then Bernie
so just adding insult to injury. He wait until after everybody stands in line to vote for him in Wisconsin, and then he gets out of the race here. He's
and it gives some sort of statement by putting for everybody, I think, is the short statement everybody gets pulling. Goodbye bunny will soon labour. I mean good good Cuba hardest hit
Castro's hardest hit Venezuela hardest hit? How terrible how terrible the Bernie that Bernie is out
I really have much more than that like I'm, it was. It was an obvious
The only reason he was saying and presumably was gets twenty five percent of the delegate base, and then he could use that authority to Catherine wait around at the convention. He could still try to do that.
It gets to walk into the convention and say that I'm not gonna throw my Bernie Sanders support
Behind you, Joe Biden, unless you do x Y, and so I don't think that he needed the formal elegant count, nor to do that with that said,
yes, I have a lot of weight now and Joe Biden would be fooled. Star catering to the burning Sandra side of the party he's got to count on the fact that people don't like Trump to unify the party, not on catering to the Bernie Sanders AIDS, because right now finds entire campaign rests on the feeling that he is not volatile, that he is not radical, that he is non threatening right. That's the star
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So, as I say, the breaking news, the Bernie Sanders has indeed dropped out of the presidential race. According to NBC News, He Vermont Independent centres. Twenty twenty bid started our strong. He narrowly must firstly
and I will before picnic blends in New Hampshire and Nevada, all the while his campaign continued Reagan,
Aliens in small dollar donations and pack rallies full of supporters. As you said,
The national front understand status amid a crowded democratic field in twenty twenty, a number of candidates back policy similar to his own, but in the end he ended up falling when the rest of the party,
Basically, united against him, because he was just too radical his campaign affair,
We start in South Carolina veal by a critical endorsement from representative that James Kleiber, by
one the palmetto state decisively and then the matter when the party consolidated around him Warren dropped out of the race. After Super Tuesday. She declined to endorse any candidate a week later in March, tenth by dominate in
six states that boat, including Michigan, whereas enters its biggest twenty. Sixteen victories to grow his delicate lead over the Vermont Senator, and then he was the brute
in Florida, Illinois, Arizona March 17th a day after the contest with the next voting nights weeks, away centres can,
in managing the can. It was gonna, be having conversations about moving forward. Now, he's decided not to move more, presumably he's gonna blame the lack of moving forward uncovered he's gonna save one for covert. I would have still been able to hold my rallies and that would have been able to get you a lot vote and socialist never has us which was put under the more popular, almost necessary and heaving milligram Bernie Galway.
Just how people who felt for several weeks at this point we bid a non fond. Farewell do Bernie Sanders. We don't have
the US is our anthem unhand. If we did, we be playing in salute to the geriatric
minister, I get me one, as I say back to the actual stuff that matters when it comes to how we get out of this thing, some
judgments have been I early on suggested that we needed to move from China to South Korea right that, damn it might contact racing and heavy testing
all depends on the denominator if it turns out that not a lot of people have had covered. Yet that's gonna be what we have to do right. We locked it down to the point where, basically, the cases are close to zero and then we can start widespread testing. If somebody gets it will
up and down, we contact raise them. If, however, the denominator is really large, if it turns out that tons of people have this end, tons of people who are asymptomatic have this then contact tracing- it's not gonna, be useful anymore, because just there are too many people out there to trace all of them. So we have to that. That's why the data are so keep focusing on the data, because the data really arctic.
Here. The data are what matter it meanwhile white, how senior adviser jarred cushion or has created a taskforce reaching out to a range of health technology companies about creating
National Corona virus surveillance system to give the government anew
real time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what by their hospitals, can accommodate them. According to four people and knowledge of the discussions,
that's a good day. I mean you want to know which hospitals are being over run a need supplies, but the question is whether the federal government is basically going to start
monitoring every citizen in the country for covered health privacy Laws grant brought exceptions for national security purposes, but the prospect of compiling a national database of potentially sensitive health information has prompted concerns about civil liver
he's which presently showed him in his knee should be open debates, Jessica, rich former director of the federal trade commissions, Consumer Protection Bureau, says this is a genuine crisis. We have to work, threatens our best to protect people's health. Doing that does mean we have to destroy privacy of bottom line. Here is that everyone is struggling to figure out exactly how
reopening happens. This is true broad to Denmark is trying to figure out how they reopen ITALY's, trying to figure out how they reopen. China has been
opening but only sort of, and meanwhile in all their propaganda as being echoed by the media. There still presumably death in China. From all of this, I will say points to the troll crew over in China. The
the Republic of China released a video last night about enjoying food and move ahead, not kidding. You go up the balls on those people, I mean
there is, I come enjoy our food move, anything because people in
the food, nor had a little too much that that lead you. You know the worst crisis in the history of humanity in some facts. In any case in which had its now becoming clear that the battle
far from over. According to the Wall Street Journal, the city has announced only three confirmed cases since March Eighteenth, which is why I have ended
he sent me say: seventy locked in a city allowing unbounded outbound travel for healthy people after using some residential restrictions to revive the crippled local economy, but now they ve containing restrictions on some housing complexes. It said
this will remain in place after confirming, does
of new asymptomatic cases, and that's. The big problem is the asymptomatic cases. Unless you're gonna have tons and
in terms of people testing every single day
medical certain arriving, presumably everybody's, going to, in fact each other again. So that is why, once again, the apparently that the study that's being done, that this reality test their being on the antibodies. Has there been no mechanical
county and all this those will be available on Friday. I am fascinated to learn what the actual numbers are in the denominator, because the fact is. We cannot continue this way as an economy. We cannot continue in this way in terms of lifestyle. The american people are not going to sit home for the next year is not going to happen now. Maybe they go to restaurants and socially distance. Maybe
good ball games, but if you think that people can be locked in their home with their children for a year not going to school. Good luck, Charlie Daddy's not happen
Meanwhile, we are already seeing the small Business aid programme stretched to its limits, because the amount of money that is pouring through the fire hose the the nozzle on the fire hose justice
why not an congresses wing adding more than two hundred fifty billion dollars more small business aid to keep those businesses alive? Meanwhile, a third of U S: apartment renters didn't bother to pay their April rent, there's a patchwork of federal and local laws.
In addition it right now those laws are getting extraordinary in places like California, almost all California foreclosures innovations have now been put on hold for the foreseeable future.
The states you Judicial Council on Monday issued emerge
He orders that stop lenders, efforts to foreclose on mortgages and landlords ability to attendants, except in cases where public health or safety are involved. Also the governor has issued edicts, but
good, stiff limitations on lender, foreclosures and tenant evictions, and now they are putting
It is putting property owners and banks and financial risk, because not only are they suggesting that they are going to push off the evictions, not only that there also suggesting that their one to allow people not to be evicted for aid
ninety days beyond the terms of the national emergencies, once the national emergencies over, you still get to live in your home rent free for three months, which is it
wait wait to destroy all development in the state of California industry, the real estate market in the state of California.
Daniel you Colson is an apartment associations, executive director he's.
Many of these events and more terms is Carte Blanche for not paying rent rent for any reason. While nobody wants to see any one that is truly impacted by the virus put out in the streets, the entire
and for housing. People in our communities cannot merely be forced upon the back of a private citizens, which of course, is true, and it's going to lead to peace.
Play some sort of government bail out on that and as well. The council's rules apply for ninety days after the state of emergency is lifted. The new
mean borrowers and tenants do not have to respond to legal demands for payments during that period and the right to fight for closure and addictions extended pass the council's freeze period, which means it could be.
Six months. We will be living in their apartment for six months with no rent because of the attempts are being made by the California government. This thing has to end in has stand forth with as soon as the data make it possible for us to end that, and we should be looking to how we end this thing-
in the broadest possible way as soon as the data allow men I keep seeing as soon as the date allowed, because, again, I'm not so many single Russia under three go back to work. Everybody enjoy your life. I don't think so. The data show right now
but let's you at the data shall in terms of what is realistic, because what I am hearing from a lot of you,
doesn't send very realistic to make hundreds of millions of tests being trotted out and people taking them voluntarily on a daily basis are being tested for Cologne virus everytime. You enter a restaurant, but about it said, Ling, Chu, restaurants. In one day, my will,
if, as we say, a huge number of Americans Party had this thing and many are immune or one of the huge number of Americans haven't
symptomatic and our carrying in there's no way to test them, because they don't even show up on tests, because the tests on sensitive enough they did the Wall Street Journal is pointing out just how how crazy this
You re a sharp reduction in new infections. If there is a critical for step, they say, but health experts say, other steps will be needed to prevent another devastating outbreak, the church, the economy down all over again. That includes building testing and surveillance systems and a readiness to reintroduce so
distancing another mitigations on smaller scale, if necessary, to give businesses and individuals confidence, they can return to work without risking infection. Doktor found she says it's not like a lights
on and off its gradual, pulling back on certain restrictions in Frankfurt society a bit back to normal, but
None of these things are available, like our Rogan, a heavy sets ready in September me. He says
going back to school again once things once kids go back to school. This whole thing is over
his kids, you know in fact, each other to be an asymptomatic carriers that milligram and grandpa that's what's going to happen, guys, kids, three of them under the age of five
I'm sick of three and a new born and went out
not right now, that's ok. What happens when you go back to school, but that is the big question and
I have yet to see anybody lay out a plan, and that's why I keep seeing data.
Data there and then a plan. If we had these numbers, we do acts. If we had these numbers, we do why right have that about some kinda like I thought this is what the government is supposed to be good, but apparently not ok. It's time you get to some things that I like and some things that I hate so things that I like I hate. Let's talk about,
president from here. So president from said some good things yesterday and has had some bad things yesterday mean this is like epic level good from bad.
I sometimes she says something like yeah, that's a pretty fantastic good for you and sometimes says something like. Why are you doing this? Why why why why why
that every other what major western leader has experienced a fifteen point, boosting the poles and president from experiencing a fight
when boost unopposed, announced, dissipated. Well, part of that would have to do with the fact that president from has an unfortunate tendency to take his foot and shovel.
We're down his throat. Sometimes he says things that are wonderful right when he objects to nationalization of industry, because he's got level love for America and american business, and somebody says things that are Super Damascus and it's it's very difficult for the american public to feel solid and stay.
Well, when he does this sort of stuff, they itself on and games when you're on Twitter, but the middle of a global and Emma could seems, let, like I had a theory for years about from the basic reached, ignore what he says and follow what he does in your happy. Camper becomes a lot harder
people, are feeling this disquieted and when national leadership matters reminisce why they got the queen of England out their speaking for only the fourth time in the last hundred ninety years is anyway, president from said some good stuff, yesterday's that some bad stuff yesterday, good stuff that he said so first, he said he loved to reopen the country with the Big bang up for so I think this is good when he says this kind of stuff. The reason I think it's good is because, if we
see the politicians actually wants. Keep things closed and just spend enormous amounts of money we start to think to ourselves. Maybe I should stay home, maybe it's all scam. The fact that Trump does not obviously want to keep people locked up is one of the key reasons that people are staying. Locked up
now, because we were like ok while these I know that I doesn't actually wanted to chain me in my house and then toss me, twelve hundred bucks a month, theirs
seen from yesterday's and he loved to reopen the country, the Big Bang, where
two open with a big bang, one beautiful country
just open, but its very possible, so we're looking at two concepts will look. It is a concept we open up. Sections were also looking at the concept where you open up everything, as I did
New York is getting ready, if not already, but
getting ready to pick and once to fix it
start coming down, and then it's gotta come down. First is out there. That is your president from a fascinating, providing hoped,
how can people into good thing? He always said that he was a cheer leader for the american people. I think that's true and aunts, good other things, the president from said yesterday, so
He said that he is looking withholding money to the W. H are women, and indeed
these conditions change the w h what we should be looking at withholding money. They become a chinese cats bar
World Health Organization because they really are.
They called it wrong, they call it wrong. They really. They missed the cause, they could have called it months earlier. They would have known
and they should have known
and they probably didn't know so well,
get into that very carefully
and we're gonna put a hold on money spent.
To the w-
Joe Report, a very powerful hold on it, and we're gonna see themselves. That is in fact a again at me. I think it's not a bad thing double. It has been a giant failure
So, according to the going to national review, they ve editorial over there and say that the W H started off in really doing really great things like radically smallpox and moving toward the eradication of leprosy in river blindness. But they really disgrace themselves on a summer Thirtieth chinese doctor,
lay wendling warn colleagues about the outbreak of an illness resembling severe acute respiratory syndrome? Public health officials rely on the acuity of doctors likely
the chinese authorities in reward him. They summon him to the Public Security bureau in we had on accusations. He made false statements and disrupting the public order. The c c p
the Communist Party then followed up with new
other arrest and publicly worn it would punish anyone spreading rumours on social media. By MID January, chinese actors, new covered nineteen, was spreading between humans on January, Fourteenth the who stated that there was no clear evidence,
human to human transmission of quota virus, two weeks later be who director general
Gross item: every s, who's, the only non medical die from an elite who flew to
for meeting with Asian, paying with some press had the rosy louder chinese authorities for setting a new standard for opera control and praise their open
for sharing information. We might have disagreed with the sentiment, but it was too
it had already died after contracting covert. Nineteen, when
Emergency Committee discussed whether declare cover to public health emergency January, twenty third internet,
observers had definitively discredited chinese health data tendrils continued, relying on those data in arguing against declaring an emergency. Finally,
emergency. On January, thirty of any continued as late as February twentieth to argue, the chinese actions are slowing the spread of corona virus to the rest of the world. National view correctly says the who has led
TIM premature to Chinese just information and bless China slow response to its domestic outbreak, which likely caused twenty fold increase in cases according to a University of Southampton Study, so good for Trump for for putting the screws to the who definitely deserves it, and president from also was right to point out in his press conference yesterday that Joe Biden has changed his position on the travel ban, the media basically to squash right over that the job.
Had completely flipped on the travel ban from China. One thing were Joe Biden that I respect on Friday issued a statement
that he thought I was right or closing the border to China. So I respect
track that he was able to do that. Europe take the opposite view and then he was able to do that. So I thought that was actually I thought that was very nice, so all that
all that is fine in the sub tweet of Abiden there they behind of these subtle knife between us all that is fine, then there is the bathroom and again this has been pretty epoch, good from bad from so yesterday, during the press conference.
From talked about how well we get along with Andrew Cuomo, who he has been in sort of a tete. A tete mattress
he talks about also some government
our ban their acting like political animals. There there really bad men get like this. None of this is is useful. None of this is useful. Steady leadership would be very good at a time like this and in terms of action. The
Europe has been fairly study and many studies again be in the midst of an unprecedented global pandemic. But when the present says this kind of stuff, it's just not useful.
I think we ve got along very well with Andrew and most of the gun
Does that mean a couple I could tell you were wouldn't matter:
kid you could give em ten times more than they asked if these. If the newspaper
scald and wanted to quote they give you a bad quote because
that's the way they are united political animals than you know. This is beyond politics. What we ve been going to hear when needs constant feeling of war. Whoop
from from is actually not useful, like he'd have a leg to stand,
when he says we need to unite in the face of this if they began, you re more uniting figure. Meanwhile, there is a continued chaos inside the administration, the top leader of the Navy had to step down. After the after he went aboard a shit
and proceeded to rail against a Navy captain who had been fired fur
sending out a missive talking about how the
Health care, you basically to be dark according to
Political and aircraft carrier sidelined by corner virus outbreak, a promising captain fired for requesting help as infection spread among his five thousand sailors a service.
There was once more effort, the acting Navy secretary Resign Tuesday following an uproar,
profanity laced addressed in a ship's crew, the Navy, his weathered its chair of crises, and in the past month
saw the previous Navy secretary forced out.
His handling of a war crimes case and the man selected to stop admiral instead retired, due to an improper professional relationship with a former staffer accused of making unwanted sexual advances to several women, but the resignation of Secretary Thomas mildly leaves the service lurking in the middle of a pandemic is is bad stuff. Basically, there there's this guy bread, crumbs
Here we talked about this. The captain who had blasted an email to Navy personnel were not in the chain of command asking for aid and suggesting that the carrier needed to be Doc, and the head of the Navy then proceeded to visit. The ship
and he called croziers actions naive and stupid and ripped into the guy over the loudspeakers on the ship, and then he was forced to resign so just again that that is
it. Good luck also nodded to elect the president has now removed the independent watchdog for grown a virus funds. Now I am a member of the.
The believes in the unitary executive branch. I dont believe that there should be caught him hold independent inspectors.
By the executive branches. What the legislature is for. If the legislature wants to set up its own legislative council to oversee spending, then it can
Absolutely do that in legislation. I can absolutely call in the Trump administration with all of the reports and go through it. That's why you have an oversight committee, or example, to oversee things right. That's what the Oversight Committee is four in,
there are these random sort of inspectors general all over the executive branch, and this creates an unaccountable third or fourth branch of government that that is not accountable to the present relics of fires. Them there's all sorts of above and also not really accountable to the legislature, because the legislature is not in a position to fire them either. Well, with all of that said,
it's not a great look when president from fired Glenn find the acting Pentagon watchdog, he'd be he'd been charged to lead.
Group to oversee the implementation of the corona virus, locked on Monday Trump remove find from his post. Instead, he named the EPA Inspector general to serve
the temporary Pentagon watchdog, in addition to his other responsibilities, that decision effectively remove fine
his role overseeing the corona virus relief effort. Since the new law permits only current inspectors general to fill the position. Apparently fine, we'll go back to a Senate, confirm posters principle. Deputy inspector general of the Pentagon,
there have been questions raised by Senator Lamar Alexander, for example, saying like I'm not sure why he did this, but that's not a great look. Also. This comes directly on the heels of from going after in Hs watchdog after they reported on hospital shortages right president, from the other day, like direct
When, after this I report it will widen widened. The idea has been eight years with the Obama administration. Did she report on this
each one in one, swine flu, tobacco or seventeen thousand people died want to talk
admirals generals, VP and others in charge before doing her report, another fig dossier that the feeling of people are out to get me they again, nobody cares about that suffering. Now. Nobody cares about itself right now. We care about is that the resources
they're going, they have by and large, been getting where they are going, and we want
sure that we're not wasting Oliver money and
need a better reason. Then I don't like the guy for firing inspector general inside the government, especially at this time already so bad. That is it. These are things that I like as well as hate. We have run out of time, unfortunately, but we'll vacuum. What's he went
I'm two hours later today and then we'll be icon Monday, because his pass over tonight Sammy
everybody who is jewish, enjoy your saner, be at home with your family. If you want to see the the plagues, just walk outside and take a look around ends, and then
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All the updates come Monday will also be here. We can all pray that we will be and
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