Democrats push for impeachment as Trump denies he asked for dirt, Trump heads to the UN to confront Iran, and climate change passions run high while solutions run low. Date: 09-24-2019
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Democrats push for impeachment, as President Trump denies. He asked for dirt present from heads to the UN to confront IRAN and climate change.
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a lot of it coming from the United Nations, which is indeed a horrible place. It is the most Isley Sleeve international politics, a hive of scum and villainy, and the fact is that I'm not
Neighbor of eminent domain that you want is a government building, but if President Trump were to declare for any reason, including corrupt,
is that the United Nations Building ought to be pursued by the Trump Corporaci,
under eminent domain torn down and replaced with the Trump tower I'd be in favor of I mean frankly, if they want to turn it into
a clear waste depository, I'm in favor of it you'll see why today, as we discuss all of the myriad wonderful activities happening at the on we'll get to that in just a little bit, the first president Trump continues to dig a hole and the whole continues to be dog, and the first rule of holes, of course, is to stop digging. Well, yes,
today, President Trump sort of went back and forth, and back and forth on these Ukraine allegations so just to review to bring you up to date. When last we left our riveting story on this episode of Downton Abbey, the President of the United States had a call with Ukraine. The call with you create involved the president asking the government of Ukraine to look into investigating and prosecuting Hunter Biden and or Joe Biden for a relationship that Hunter Biden had in twenty. Sixteen with
company called the Breeze MA, which is an oil and gas company in Ukraine, and let's be frank about this, the only reason Hunter Biden had this slot at apparatus. Might
as his daddy is Joe Biden, because Hunter Biden has never actually earned the job. I just a few months earlier, he had been kicked out of the Navy for drug
use I mean they've been serious problems with Hunter Biden, and yet he was getting these very rich jobs, so it gets this job over Brees MA and the prosecutor, the prosecuted choke and over in Ukraine,
he starts looking into this. It turns out. This guy show can also had a significant record of corruption, so Joe Biden, who's vice president at the time is openly call
the government of Ukraine to fire this prosecutor. Now the question is: was he
calling on Ukraine to fire the prosecutor, because the prosecutor was looking into the corporation where his son was or was
by doing that, because in general, that prosecutor was corrupt, now bite
maintains the ladder an he was openly bragging about pressure in Ukraine by three
things with hold american aid to Ukraine, a billion dollars in US loan guarantees, in fact, so that is what set president Trump off present
always want everybody investigated, as we mentioned yesterday on the program? This is his thing, every other tweet from President
it has someone should investigate Netflix for the about media, so much
to get Saturday night live for the FCC. Somebody should investigate my underwear. It president Trump constantly wants investigate
people and tell him getting on the line with something like. Can you investigate something
that's not necessarily a violation of law is just the president being the president, which is not good. You don't want the president of the United States, talking to foreign leaders,
and asking them to investigate american citizens as a general rule, but it's also a manner of
agree, rather than a difference in kind with past activities by prominent politicians, as we mentioned over the past week in two thousand and sixteen Hillary Clinton explicitly worked with the ukrainian governments, the Dnc.
Explicitly worked with the ukrainian government at the Ukrainian Embassy to try and dig up dirt on Paul Manafort. Who was then Donald.
Campaign manager, because man afford was allegedly working with the Russians and with the former ukrainian regime of acting out of coverage right. So that was Hillary Clinton. Engaging in that sort of politics, Barack Obama, in the lead up to twenty twelve, was caught on a hot MIKE telling Dmitry Medvedev was the front man for Vladimir Putin that he was gonna, offer Putin and Russia flexibility in exchange for Russia sort of backing off before the election, so Trump saying to Ukraine, it be great. If you could investigate Biden, it's a difference in degree, not a difference in kind. I would make a difference in how
is if this was connected to taxpayer dollars, meaning that if Donald Trump had said Ukraine, I'm withholding your military aid. Unless you investigate Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, that would be an impeachable offense. That would be a crime, it would be. Bribery would look a lot like what Trump is accusing Biden of, because Trump is accusing Biden of Essentia Lee trying to
drive the government of Ukraine to get rid of a prosecutor looking into his son. Now, in that particular case, Biden has claimed, and the evidence seems to be on his side that show can the prosecutor was deeply corrupt, that he was ousted for corruption and that the fact that this prosecutor was looking into Biden, son was sort of just going
dental, and that may make you suspicious. But the fact is that when you have a lot of interlocking parts and when you have a son who is working internationally in politics and using your name to get around there
going to be some conflicts of interest, or at least apparent conflicts of interest, so Bidens claim looks a lot like Trump's claim today. So Trump is saying: listen now I had withheld Ukraine
in aid, but the reason I was holding the ukrainian aid is because I was in general concerned about corruption in Ukraine and then, finally, those fears were quote were quelled, and then I gave the aid, but it didn't have to do specifically with them investigating Joe Biden Ann Hunter bite now the case in favor of that
is that you created not investigate you're biting Hunter Biden and Trump on Mcdade, and he unlocked the aid before any of the story broke. So if it was an explicit quid pro quo or even an implicit quid pro quo, you would expect that Trump would not have released the aid. So that is going to be his defense here, but the fact that the aid was being discussed at the same time that Trump was pressing, the
in president to investigate his chief political opponent domestically. That is leading to a lot of, I think well founded suspicions, just as the right is suspicious. The job,
I was using his leverage in order to knock off a prosecutor in Ukraine
in favor of his son. The left is suspicious for exactly the same reasons that Trump was
settings withhold military aid from Ukraine in pursuit of Joe Biden Hunter Biden. So it's almost exactly parallel, like really almost exactly parallel, so the AP reported yes
President Donald Trump or his staff to freeze nearly four hundred million dollars in aid to Ukraine a few days before a phone call in which he pressured the east.
Eastern European Nations leader to investigate the family of political rival, Joe Biden, a revelation that come
this is more Democrats move toward impeachment proceedings. Now people are going to look at the timing here
they're going to say the timing is really suspicious and the timing is suspicious. I mean I'm not going to sugarcoat the fact. Of course, it's suspicious. If the president says
let's withhold. Eighty crane and then he gets on the line with Ukraine and the
first thing he says: is you investigate my political opponent guys, but the fact is that Ukraine probably was not top of mind for Trump right. If you're in his defense lawyer, what you're going to argue is.
Ukraine, like you, think Trump walks around thinking make rain all day. In fact, is that probably somebody came to him and said
should we get aid, Ukraine and he was like? No, I'm not. Let's wait to see if they are corrupt and then on the phone call. He just does
from does right just freewheels, and he talks about buying and all this stuff and then without getting any commitment from the Ukrainians to go after Biden or Hunter Biden. Then he releases the aid. So if there's a quid pro quo, then where's the quo-
right? If the idea is that he is giving them eight in exchange for x? Where is the x the x? Never materialized, we'll get some more of this in just one second, first, let's talk about why you need a great suit, so you think you're going to go down to the local department store and just pick something off the rack. It'll, look good, walk out, feel good
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he held up the aid, but he said he did so to fight corruption and urge european nations to share and helping out Ukraine. He said as far as withholding funds, those funds are paid their fully paid, ok,
that's true is my complaint is always been, and I'd withhold it again and I'll continue to withhold until
such time is Europe and other nations contribute Ukraine now that obviously does fit with Trump's broader overall pattern of saying things
people aren't paying their fair share in NATO, and so we might withhold aid until NATO nations start paying more for their own defense. He suggested that Germany and France put in
and then he used the moment to again suggest the Biden family inappropriately benefited from their ties to Ukraine. So President Trump he went off on the press. Over
All of this he was over at the United Nations and he took the time to rip into not Frado Chris Cuomo on CNN for his coverage. I don't watch CNN because it's fake news, but I watched Rudy, take apart. Frado Frado's performance was incompetent. Rudy took him apart. The press doesn't give him credit card
Take a little tiny snippets where, wherever Rudy was a little bit, if he mispronounces a the word, they'll show that they won't show the Pull Rudy Giuliani took frado to the claim,
and he's talking about the exchange between Rudy Guiliani Trump's, personal lawyer and not freight out. We, we won't come freight apparently to racial slur, not freight Chris Qual,
over on CNN, in exchange, in which Rudy Giuliani sort of reverse himself an admitted within thirty seconds that he had actual that the Trump actually spoken with ukrainian president about the possible prosecution of Japan's a little bit more information on this withholding aid issue. Because again, the quid pro quo is the criminal question here. So, according to the one,
in post president Trump in the C B, Caroline's immersion Josh douse the Ellen Nakashima Caroline and on it. So you can see that they're taking this pretty seriously putting for reporters on the story. President Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney
hold back almost four hundred million dollars in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the ukrainian president. To investigate the son of former Vp Joe Biden according to three senior administration officials, officials at the Office of Management and budget relay
Trump's order to the State Department and the Pentagon during an interagency meeting in MID July. According to officials,
click on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. They explain that
resident had concerns and wanted to analyze whether the money needed to be spent at all admitted
station officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that delay.
Part of an interagency process, but given no additional information, a pattern that continued
nearly two months until the White House,
is the funds on the night of September, eleventh a so now. The Washington post is reporting, something that looks so that they're trying to portray this as a cover up right. I mean that that is obviously
they are saying that they are trying to say it wasn't solely up to Trump was an interagency process and all the rest, which would be suspicious. I mean frankly, if the president was saying I went in with the aid, but let's call it an interagency process like that would be bad. All of this would be bad terms. Orders withhold aid Ukraine week before his
25Th call with someone's is likely to raise questions about the motivation for his decision and fuel
suspicions on Capitol Hill that Trump sought to leverage congressionally approved aid, the damage, a political rival,
Now, Kelly Ann Conway, spokesperson for the White House, she was on tv
this morning, and she confirmed that President Trump
withhold the money from Ukraine, but she maintains that it had to do with generalized corruption in Ukraine and not having
do with exerting leverage over Ukraine Tickle after Biden, the Washington Post, had broken store yesterday afternoon. That said that the
They told Mick Mulvaney to hold the money
three hundred and ninety one million dollars in ukrainian military aid. Before he talked to the president, the new president of Ukraine is that how you believe it all happened? Yes, the president, in terms of the president, wanted to talk to him. First, make sure that this person who the new president who won in a landslide in anti corruption agenda, I was actually going to execute on that and keep the promises of his presidential elective platform. Okay. Well, the left is going to say well and the way that Trump achieved his confirmation that this is
anti corruption platform is by getting Zalenski to pledge to prosecute Biden, but the ones getting to do that. So here's the problem with that particular narrative, at least so far as we know, given the information ukrainian President has
lately denied that he gave Trump the okay. So in other words, you never said to Trump according
the iranian President's once he that he was going to prosecute. But so if the logic is Trump said, Trump withhold aid for a week and then, as a call, was a landscape to which to to determine whether he is anti corruption but secretly to determine whether her laughter by and then he says you know, I want to make sure you're, not crap, that in order for me to determine that prosecuting by,
any chance, Joe Biden and then the ones he says yes and then from police. Is the aid that looks like what broke well but apparently, someone's you said now he's on his like
No mister president! Now an in terms like ok, well, I guess you're, not
his money, so that doesn't look exactly like the kind of quid pro quo that we are
talking about again, I'm just operating off the evidence that I've been given.
If the evidence changes, then I will change my opinion, but that's the evidence that is in place right now.
Republican senators on the Senate Appropriations Committee said September. Twelve at the aid to Ukraine had been held up while the trumpet
Ministration explored whether Hylenski, the country's new president was pro russian or pro western,
the White House decided to release the aid after Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois Threat
freeze five billion dollars in Pentagon funding for next year unless the money for two thousand and nineteen was distributed. Ok, so now what Democrats are going to claim is that Trump didn't actually want to release the aid that he wanted to continue,
holding it over Ukraine, and it was only Dick Durbin threatening a larger funding freeze for the Pentagon that caused Trump to let it go. In other words, there are two plausible narratives
and- and we don't know the answer to this- yes, which is why I'm sure there will be a congressional investigation. Frankly, there should be frankly, there should be. I, as an American, want more information on what happened here. I do not want the president of the United States of either party threatening to with.
Hold aid to countries based on them investigating domestic political opponents. That would be wrong. It would be impeachable, it would be a crime, but we don't know
happened yet and, as I say, they're two alternative versions of the time. My being present the time my present by the Trump Administration says we're considering ukrainian aid
Trump spoke is Lenski Zalenski made no guarantee that he would go
after Biden and in and in that he would go after Biden. In fact, he said he wouldn't presumably
then, we released the age, that's not a quid pro quo and on the left, they would say well
The only reason you release the aid is, you did
in spite of the fact he didn't want. You wanted to hold it over the landscape and Dick Durbin made trouble for you, and so you decided to release the aid one senior
stration officials, said Monday that Trump's decision to hold back the funds was based on his concerns about there being a lot of corruption in Ukraine,
and the determination to release the money was motivated by the fiscal
years looming close on September 30th, so
making it alternative case. We didn't do it 'cause of Dick Durbin. It's because all of the money has to be released by September 30th. We had given
write down, and so we gave it up there's
certain within the administration that if they did not spend the money they run afoul,
of the law? The official said noting that eventually Trump did give the in.
I think, Director Russell Black permission to release the money. The official in fat
play tonight. There was any link between blocking
in pressing Zelinski in to investigate
divide and stating it had nothing to do with the quid pro quo. Well, that is the key line, so the actual source, the actual source
for the Washington Post at least one of their key sources is openly saying. This was not a quid pro quo, but Democrats are pushing forward anyway
Mitch, Mcconnell the Senate Majority leader, he is you, know, obviously pushing back with the near the Trump Administration is providing me. Wasn't I mean he should know. I Mcconnell obviously should know some
something about the spending of this money, considering that the Senate did have oversight of the spending of this money Mitch Mcconnell
majority leader said yesterday that it's regrettable that Chuck Schumer is politicizing. This issue, I've done just reported to see our colleague, the democratic leader choose to politicize the committee's ongoing efforts with respect to a recent whistleblower allegations, the specific subject of which is still unknown. I believe it's extremely important that their work be handled in a secure setting with adequate protections in a bipartisan fashion. It is regrettable that House Intelligence Committee Chair
chef and shatter Schirmer have chosen to politicize the issue. Okay. Well, the Democrats are responding by saying: well, doesn't even met now another shifting the goal posts, the goal post was until five seconds ago, Adam Schiff saying. Was there a quid pro quo now the demo,
it's shifting the goalpost saying, even if there was no quid pro quo. Trump. Even asking is a method of
from Senator Chris Murphy says I don't
really matters whether the President,
explicitly told ukrainians. They wouldn't get their security aid if they didn't, interfere,
Two thousand and twenty elections there's an implicit threat in every demand that a United States President makes of a foreign power
and foreign country knows that if they don't do it, there are likely to be consequences. Well, that's too broad, that's too broad, because there is a
difference between a quid pro quo using american taxpayer dollars and a head of state asking another head of state for an official action,
you may not like him asking for the official action, but head of states do this a lot and they do it with domestic political,
Iterations in mind, I President Trump was at
President Obama was asking the Iranians basically formed around a nuclear deal in advance of the twenty sixteen election
political reasons domestically, as well as in terms of foreign policies. That's that's too broad
argument from Senator Murphy, although I do sympathize with the general sentiment that when a president exerts pressure, he should be very careful, which is why I think there is a difference.
Between what Trump did being bad and what he did being criminal. I think it's bad
should be asking you friend, to investigate Biden. If Ukraine wants to investigate button, they can investigate Biden, but that's not criminal and that's really the standard for impeachable offenses or getting rid of trump or anything like that. Ok
get some more of this in just one. Second, because Democrats are ramping up the impeachment talk first, you know at the end of the day, I need to uh
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All of this, and he says: okay. Well, you guys keep talking quid pro quo. Well, how about the Biden put broke off and again here in lies the great parallel between what Biden is suspected of doing by Republicans and what Trump is suspected of doing by Democrats and so far there's no evidence. The Biden actually engaged a corrupt quid pro
well, if you print a government and so far there is no actual evidence. The trump engaged a corrupt quid pro quo with Ukraine. It just looks real bad, which you know as I get older. This seems to be the nature of politics. Just things look bad all the time, and most of the time
they're, not as bad as they look, but they look really ugly in the moment, which is why good politicians try to avoid this sort of stuff. Here's MIKE Pence, pointing out guys I mean, if you're talking quid pro quo, then you actually do have to talk about Joe Biden, who is suspected of doing exactly the same. The same thing you are now accusing I mean like exactly the same thing with holding aid to Ukraine in exchange for a personal benefit right. That is, that is exactly the accusation. Trump is making a Biden, and the exact accusation
Democrats are making of Trump. So far, there's insufficient evidence for either chargers. Mike Pence, though, trying to turn this on its head and go after Joe Biden, he had a quid pro quo
He said the ukrainian officials. You will not get over a billion dollars in american aid unless you fire a prosecutor who just happened to be investigating a company that vice President Biden son, was on the very bored out and make money, but making a lot of money early with no background in oil, gas for Enerji, the american people have a right to know and to have a vice president threatening USA. That's a quid pro quo. Ok, so,
that's the allegation that Republicans are making a Biden and the evidence is so thus far insufficient and it is the accusation of Democrats are making of Trump and thus far the evidence is insufficient. Now, Chris Murphy,
who is indeed a motivated actor, is claiming that the Ukrainians
away with the impression that there was a requested quid pro quo, so Murphy we spoke with Zalenski this. According to the Washington Post,
early September visits. Ukraine said on Monday that the ukrainian President directly expressed concerns at their meeting that the aid that was being cutoff to Ukraine by the president was a consequence of his unwillingness to launch an investigation into the
But that is not what it has said publicly. I do want not said that publicly there's also been some talk to
and former National Security advisor John Bolton wanted to release the money
Ukraine, because he thought it would help the country while curtailing russian aggression, but Trump has said he was primarily concerned with corruption. Now again that maybe smoke that turns out to be nothing meaning that Bolton I mean, I know John Bolton. Of course, John BO.
And wanted to release the aid to the Ukrainians. Hey John Bolton is extraordinarily anti russian. He sees that the training in government needs to resist russian backed militias in places like Crimea as well as in the southeast of the country, and the fact is that, if Donald Trump had sure is corruption concerns about Ukraine, he would withhold that. I mean there was open cup jumbled up fire right. There is open conflict between Bolton and Trump over a wide variety of of Bolton's hawkish issues.
That does not speak directly to the question of corruption? Trump keeps telling reporters the same thing. He said it's very important to talk about corruption. If you don't talk about corruption, why would you give money to a country you think is corrupt? Besides bolt and several other administration,
angels told the Washington Post. They do not know why the it was being canceled or why meeting was not being scheduled,
She was communicated to state and defense officials on July 18th officials familiar
meeting said by MID August. Lawmakers were acutely aware that the Office of Management Budget
assumed all decision making authority from the defense and State Department and was delaying the distrib
of the aid there, a series of short term notices, several congressional offices, question
whether the OMB had the legal authority to direct federal agencies not to spend money that Congress
had already authorized spokespeople for the Pentagon and State Department have declined to comment MID August is the time
whistleblower from the intelligence community, filed a complaint regarding from in Ukraine to the Intel
community inspector General Michael Atkinson Atkinson informed the House and Senate intelligence committees of the complaints existence. On September, ninth
That is the same day that three house committees launched an investigation to determine whether Trump and his lawyer,
Rudy Giuliani, had improperly pushed Ukraine to investigate the bidens. So if you're going
Look at the timeline two days after that complaint was made clear to the Congress that existed the AIDS Ukraine was released, so I'm not going to let anybody for being suspicious here, I'm not I'm not. I mean I see why you would be suspicious
I'm also going to say that, so far the evidence is insufficient. To conclude that this wasn't a generalized question of
not wanting to hand over aid Ukraine, but was in fact Trump trying to trying to hold back aid in order to motivate ukrainian government to go after
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is growing, and some of the some of the I would say edge Republicans are wavering, Mitt Romney of Utah, who, of course it has never been a friend to President Trump. He suggest
said that Trump should make available. The whistleblower complaint has been deemed to be credible in urgent. I think, would be very helpful to get to the bottom of the facts. If they don't, it will be up to the house to decide how to proceed Anne. Frankly, I don't disagree with Mitt Romney. I think more information is good. I'm a public citizen of the United States. I would like more info
nation on this phone call and from has agreed to release the transcripts. As I say, I think it's weird that the Democrats are now asking for the whistleblower complain,
as opposed to the underlying phone call transcript that they are presumably worried about right. I mean
it's weird. They don't want the primary material. They want the secondary material when you do a historical research project that are primary materials that we, like the actual historical document,
and their secondary materials, which are a summary of the historical document
I wouldn't you want to see the actual historical document, namely the transcript of the phone call between Trump, is one ski, as opposed to seeing the whistle blower complaint, which is a
errantly secondhand 'cause the whistleblower didn't even have first hand knowledge of the call between Trump and Zalenski. Nonetheless, Democrats are openly talking impeachment now, according to Breitbart,
speaker of the house. Nancy Pelosi will convene the democratic caucus at four p pm eastern Daylight time on Tuesday to discuss whether to impeach President Donald Trump is a new development reported by the,
to post congressional correspondent Rachel bade on Monday,
it comes in the wake of reports. Late last week the Trump encouraged ukrainian officials to reopen
inquiries into the business dealings with former President Joe Biden former. Vice president Joe Biden, Son Hunter Biden now reply,
things are going to take back simply because they're going to say: ok, so you're going to impeach Trump on the basis of the information that has not yet been fully garnered
and yet you're not willing to do the same job. I'd like your fully willing to dismiss all the complaints about Joe Biden and the complaints are exactly the same that you use your government position to withhold the aid to Ukraine in benefit
or in one case in benefit for Hunter Biden, in the other case, to investigate Hunter Biden. So, do you guys have enough information yet is going to be the republican response to all of this.
But apparently they can meet today to talk about impeachment and seven freshman.
Rats, have now written a letter to the Washington Post openly calling for impeachment. These representatives are guild system
California, Jason Crow of Colorado, Chrissy Hoolahan of Pennsylvania and then Lauria Virginia Mickey Cheryl of New Jersey, Alisa Slatkin in Michigan,
and Abigail Span Burger of Virginia.
There's kind of notable, because hamburger is considered one of the more moderate Democrats. So this means that the impeachment effort is,
moving mainstream inside the Democratic House caucus. Apparently the current call. The current account of Democrats were willing to count. Impeachment is up to near one hundred and sixty, so they are definitely moving in that direction. According to the Washington Post
and this letter they say our lives have been defined by national service. We are not career politicians where veterans of the military and of the nations.
Sense and intelligence agencies, which is why these seven Democrats are being now put out front
and our service is rooted in the defense of our country on the front lines of national security, we have devoted our lives
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hold that oath as we enter uncharted waters and face unprecedented allegations against President Trump. The president of the United States may have used his position to pressure a foreign country into investigating a political opponents and he sought to use you as a taxpayer dollars as leverage to do it. Well,
sentence. Doesn't read, I mean really 'cause. It says he may have used his position and he sought to use taxpayer dollars so which is it may or he did I mean so far. The information suggests may have it does not suggested he did if we knew he did
trying to be in real trouble right now. He allegedly sought to use the very security assistance dollars appropriated by Congress, to greet,
ability in the world tell Britt out corruption and to protect our national security interest for his own personal gain.
These allegations are stunning, both in the national security threat they pose and a potential corruption they represent.
We also know that, on September, ninth inspector general for the intelligence community notified Congress of a credible and
It was a blower complaint related to national security,
socially involving these allegations. Despite federal
requiring the disclosure of the complaints of Congress. The administration is black, it's released to Congress. Well again, the question with regards to the whistleblower complaint is slightly different.
Then the question that is being asked about the underlying material- the whistleblower complaint, typically under the law, has to come.
From the intelligence community about the intelligence community. It can't just be the intelligence community spotting
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Seven freshman Democrats have written this letter to the Washington Post and they continue. They say this flagrant
disregard for the law cannot stand to uphold and defend our constitution. Congress must determine whether the president was indeed willing to use his power and withhold security assistant funds to persuade a foreign country to assist him in an upcoming election. As I
The big defense from Trump is gonna, be on. I released the aid and they did investigate Biden. So what's your problem, so this may come down once again frankly to question attempt hey if you what, if you look at the second half of the Miller Report, there's a lot of attempt, there's a lot of president from melting off to people in his administration. I, when you have a rabbit Miller and people want
is this sort of the same thing, Trump threatening to withhold aid and then the
and then the Ukrainian saying no and then member
his administration and Congress going. You need to release the aid and him going. Ok. Is that a crime, because if the quid pro quo is never a pro quote, is it a quid pro quo?
Is willingness alone enough for impeachable offense and now that
so there's going to be a two level defense for Trump Right, one is going to be that he did not in fact threatened to withhold eight right if that, if that barrier is not passed, this not impeachable case
If Trump said, I didn't threaten to withhold aid. I just said to him: it would be great if you could see clear to investigating Hunter Biden and, let's be real, he's corrupt. That's from mouthing off! That's bad! It's not good for president of the United States. To do that. I think it's immoral. I don't think it's right. I don't think it's impeachable. If Trump said I'm going with HUD taxpayer dollars. Unless you go investigate my domestic political opponent, then the question becomes: did it
did it not, and is it tends enough for the peaceable offense meaning if he threatens, with all the aid and Ukrainian said no, and then he let the eight go, which is actually what happened in terms of practicality? Is that criminal and you honestly I'll, have to consider the answer
That I don't know the answer to that off. The top of my head I want to look at the statue is attempts. Enough is, is that attempted bribery if the act is not completed? If was just trump mouthing off right, as Trump is apt to do again? The second half of the report is entirely trump mouthing off and people saying no to him and then him caving. So this gets
pretty complex and pretty sloppy and the Democrats are going to want to investigate. Obviously they say if these allegations are true. We believe these actions represent impeachable offense. We do not arrive at this, can
Recently. We call in our colleagues in Congress to consider the use of all
international authorities available to us, including the power of inherent contempt and impeachment hearings-
address these new allegations, find the truth and protect our national security
They are really ramping up the allegations here. The Democrat,
presidential candidates have nothing to lose obviously and in their effort to show passion they are they're going
over the top. Here is Cory, Booker saying he doesn't think that Watergate compares, which is weird since we had actual evidence of president
so criminality in Watergate, and we do not yet have that of president Trump. Here's Booker. What do you make of the news about President Trump? In his conversation with the president of Ukraine? It is a betrayal of the office at the scale of which I haven't seen in my lifetime. I mean I have to go back to a God,
I don't think Watergate even compares to what this is again. This is an over cell and the Democrats are overselling. This is why, honestly, the the Nancy Pelosi Wing of the Democratic Party is trying to hold back the enthusiasm on the part of Democrats, confusing. Let's just wait for the facts to catch up with where we want to go here. That would be the smart move, just politically speaking. Okay, now shifting over the twenty twenty presidential race, the obvious beneficiary of this continues to be a little bit more. Everybody is talk
talking, Biden biting and Ukraine everybody's talking about Trump and Ukraine and Elizabeth Warren just sitting over to the side soaking up the glue,
various media attention. There's a new tracking poll in
and it Elizabeth Warren Open up in opening up a widely? Now it is a small sample size like six hundred people and it's a survey monthly tracking poll for capital weekly
and it shows Elizabeth Warren increasing her share of the vote, pushing Vp Joe Biden down to third
among likely voters. It has her up at twenty nine percent Sanders
once you want invite, and at eighteen
and there are these leading candidates. Kamala Harris is really dropping. A lot of her support is shifting over
to Elizabeth Warren Elizabeth Warren wins. California, this primary season is over. This primary season is over zero. Again, this is
kind of a stunning move. Bye bye was with Elizabeth that there is a
handle. It may be brewing for Elizabeth Warren that is not receiving the sort of attention it should and that scandal has been revealed, courtesy of a group of left wing journalists, there's one there's a field journalist at a place called status KU which I've never heard of before, but here of
that there's a think tank called demos, and they gave the working families party forty five thousand dollars in twenty seven, two thousand and eighteen and the working Families party just shocked the world. They'd endorsed Bernie Sand
in twenty sixteen and they came in the door, so was that Lauren moving for the twenty twenty and they said that are voting breakdown was sixty. Forty in favor of was with Warner is only one problem. The way that that working families, party internal but goes half is from the leadership half is from the populous, populous and they've not reveal the breakdown of that. Why does that matter? Well,
because demos which gave forty five grand to the working families party in twenty seven hundred and twenty eighteen is led by Amelia Amelia, warranty
who is Elizabeth, Warren's daughter? So in other words, what that looks like is Elizabeth Warrens, like all these politicians in their kids, man, Elizabeth Warrens, kid chairwoman of demos, right demos gave forty five grams of the working families party. That was the first year the demos
ever given anything to the working Families party and within one year the working Families Party had shifted its support from Bernie Sanders tools with Horn Dave, Weigel of the Washington Post,
says the working Families party endorsement of learn is not surprisingly irritating. Some sanders. Supporters warns sixty point: nine percent win combined, totals
vote by the leaders in an on line member vote. Each of those accounted for fifty percent of total, but the.
Looking families party won't release. The separate tallies, which suggests, of course, that the people voted in favor of
cheddar's in leaders were like you know. We like this sweet sweet cash coming from Elizabeth Warren's daughter. So again, is this a case of smoke, but no fire or, as the case of is this kid smoke and fire, like the appearances of conferences, I say in politics: are every works if you're looking for appearances of conflict is not hard to find them, particularly when you have your kids in the political realm for what it's worth in twenty fifteen, the working Families Party did reveal the results of the online membership survey and it was eighty seven
percent for Bernie Sanders. Waggle says I talked to the WFP's national director Maurice Mitchell. Earlier he made clear. The group will not release separate vote totals for there to be one true vote and to maintain the nature of the secret ballot. All of that went into the back end, which is pretty incredible, which is pretty incredible. Ok, so Elizabeth Warren. This is not received.
Any of the sort of media coverage that it should be receiving because the media are too busy Massage Elizabeth Warren's presidential hopes, but that is a pretty bad story for Elizabeth Warren and her daughter
It's like she was bribing the working families party to support mom and the working families.
Don't reveal the internal vote totals that is. That is a bad
story for Elizabeth Warren and could in fact harm her. I think you
see Bernie Sanders make a case. Out of this. Bernie is starting to open up his guns, as I suggested he would have to on Elizabeth Warren. Earlier today he proposed a super wealth tax, not just the wealthy tax. A super wealth tax in which
he would reduce the ability of billionaires to be billionaires, he literally treated out
billionaire should not exist. Perhaps we should put them on trains to very cold places. You know, like Montana, or something
We will build, we want Google logs, but they will be kind of like blogs and will put them there, and then they won't be billionaires anymore and will liquidate the clocks, and we will
do you like the world? Bernie Sanders really going for it he put out. There is no justice
three billion nodes are able to own more wealth than the bottom half of the entire country. Well,
no, there might be justice depending on whether they also employ hundreds of thousands of Americans made millions of lives better better with their products and engage in voluntary exchange. So his new
and Bernie. Sanders is gonna, go for the Superbowl of tax, and you knew this was coming right. Elizabeth Warren propose for two percent wealth tax, which is unconstitutionally, would not raise anywhere kind. The cut near the kind of money she's talking about, because you know what what the people are very good at tax avoidance, very, very good at it. In fact, it's one of the reasons why you see Democrats taste of what you remember back in the nineteen sixties, when the top tax bracket was ninety one percent right and the effective tax rate on rich people. Was it pretty much the same because rich people started taking that money and putting it in places that were not taxable, the the effective the the the tax revenue of the federal government verses, the gdp of the
State State, basically basically stable since the reduction of of war after World WAR War, so that that not really changed changed. Bernie Sanders is proposing a new wealth tax. One percent tax on net worth over thirty two million dollars every year, two percent from from fifty million two hundred and fifty million three percent from two hundred and fifty
five hundred million four percent from five hundred million to one billion and eight percent on wealth over ten.
He says this will raise it four point: thirty five trillion dollars per decade and then he says,
It would be used to fund monies, affordable housing plan, universal child care and would help fund Medigap. All I mean that is sort of a problem considering that Medicare for all is supposed to cost. Something like thirty
four trillion dollars. So if he raises four point thirty five trillion,
over the next decade now,
for the other. Thirty trillion is going to come from, but this is Bernie Sanders upping the ante.
And also Bernie. Sanders is more of a true believer than Elizabeth. More
and you're going to see him make that case. So, just in the last twenty four
Where is Bernie Sanders is drawing the contrast between Elizabeth Warren and her supposed
warm embrace of capitalism and his own love for socialism. Here, Bernie saying that people are brain
to believe in capitalism. Someone says this to him and of course he fully agrees. Even though I have a lake house, I love pooping, many types of pudding pudding is delicious. I think that the kind of brain washing or the idea at least like I grew up with, is that
condition of success is like the american dream in cap, great cop capitalism, you're rewarded for
getting everything and just keeping it to yourself and not worrying about everybody else, and that sort of like a psychology
we've all been taught. I think Lizzie is exactly right. That's a profound! It's a profound! Zero, it's super profound, to believe that capitalism is good. People have been brainwashed to believe that capitalism is goodbye. You know the immense prosperity that capitalism has created, but if we get rid of capitalism, everything is like. I don't know how he claims that he is in favor of quote: unquote: democratic Socialism, Norway, Finland, Sweden style when he is ripping on capitalism, which provides the entire growth basis for the nordic countries, as every politician in Norway and Sweden and Finland will tell you openly-
Bernie is trying to draw a contrast with Elizabeth Warren. Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to sort of stumble around and yesterday he was asked by a reporter to make the case for his presidency, and he basically said no, I'm not going to do it. Iowa the unemployment rate is two one slash two percent people,
they are employed in Iowa and their small businesses are growing.
Where is RON cleared before he employed before he got elected. The president won by ten
finish points and I'm not suggesting it didn't win by ten percentage points. What I'm suggesting is he's not the reason for that employment rate being there
I think people want to make a change, though that's up to them to decide. Why should they remember to sign it will make you
I'm not going I'm not going to I'm not gonna, make my case. Well, you know you might want to a template and Biden's problems that he's having the so called Teddy Kennedy problem from nineteen. Eighty Teddy Kennedy was famously asked in an interview in nineteen eighty when he was running against Jimmy Carter, whether in fact he had a reason for wanting to be president, and he had no answer and Biden has
it seemed feel about him. So you've got a list with worn on the far left and Joe Biden stumbling around somewhere in the middle, slash left and then you've got a list with Warren who again continues received. One media coverage,
in the media are ignoring anything that smacks of corruption for her okay. Meanwhile, there's a lot of hubbub over at the? U N over climate change and there's a there's, a girl named Greg Thunberg, who is, I will say, a very effective in
motional spokesperson for the climate change effort and she was very emotional over at the UN she's, not the only one. By the way, there are a bunch of these kids who have been trotted out by the fire left in order to make the climate change
She's got an enormous number of headlines because she's been involved in a huge organizational effort over in Europe to get people into the streets, and here is what it sounded like. You have stolen my dreams in my childhood, with your empty words and tired ecosystems or collapsing, we are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is the money and fairy tales of eternal e con
growth. How dare you ok? Now, honestly, I feel bad for her 'cause. Obviously she believes what she is saying and there are other kids who are out there saying things like we're all going to die, but we're all going. This is going to be the last generation. Ok, I'm not going to blame these kids. These kids are enthusiastic. That's fine! I am going to blame people on the left who specifically hide behind children in order to avoid solutions. Talk so there's a friend of mine, I'm not going to name check for his own job security over at Wharton Business School and he treated a few weeks back. Then, if you actually want to do something, you have to leave with solutions if you're just talking about problems
it's called complaining. Well, I'm not going to blame kids for complaining, because that's what kids do right? You wouldn't expect a teenager to have a solution, because teenagers don't have solutions. What I would expect is for politicians and focus on the left. You pretend to be serious about these issues to actually provide the solutions.
But this is specifically why they're trotting out kids like Greta Thunberg,
reason: they're using those kids, the spokespeople for that cause is because no one expects children. No one expects teenagers to provide solutions. They would expect
additions to provide solutions, because we saw Brock about to say something like that. He said how dare you it is that how dare you? Why is it? Why? Why can't we just
I'll get together. Then we would all say: ok, what's your solution in an answer and he said no and be like? Ok. Well, then you're full of it. But if a kid does, it was like. Well, that's passionate that
in something, so politicians are using these kids and they're hiding behind these kids to avoid talk about solutions. Why? Because it turns out solutions when it comes to climate change.
What supply our needs and are incredibly difficult
very hard, and nobody even on the environmentalists left, wants to talk about that. Instead,
throughout this pie in the sky, garbage like the green new deal, which provides no solutions by the way
and then they want to say. If you oppose those solutions, it's because you're not passionate enough. It's the same thing left will do about gun control. We don't actually have solutions tailored to the problem, but if you but we're gonna, put out a bunch of kids who can talk about the problem and then if you say that the kids have no solutions, it's because you're targeting Children- and this is the goal of people on the left- put forward the kids as politic.
People's political shields for their own inability to come up with a solution. At the same time, the Greta Thunberg is out there pushing on
a change in saying that I'm on hinges that that continuous economic growth is a myth in all. This is not a myth. By the way we had continuous economic growth in the West, since eighteen hundred like really can and exponential by the way, but but that aside, at the same time,
time that all of these kids are being trotted out and cheered by the media and Barack Obama going on twitter and talking about look at the current release. Children aren't incredulous in that great. They deserve extra and you're like ok. What action I don't know, but they deserve action. At the same time, that's happening report from the New York Times. The Un Climate action summit on Monday was meant to highlight,
promises by presidents prime ministers in corporate executives to win the global economy from fossil fuels, to avoid the worst effects of global warming. But despite the protests in
treat China on Monday made no new promises to take stronger climate action.
No, you mean the giant protests in the West are not going to affect you, Jim paying. I mean. For God's sake, you threatened roll tanks over people in Hong Kong. So you think that he cares about a hundred has to say:
of course, not in the media notice. Elite emitter on planet earth is China. It is not closed. The second emitter is India, hey
Those countries are not going to change their policies because a bunch of school children in the West are protesting in the streets without any actual solutions to the problems.
Which is why I suggested. All of this is a disingenuous effort by people who do not have solution.
So the problem in order to politically polarize, and that does break the system, because if the suggestion is that, if only we had sufficient willingness, we could come to a solution, and then you provide no saloon.
You're, putting strain on a system that is not capable of carrying it, and then people lose faith in the system. It is an anti democratic point of view to suggest that complaining is in and of itself,
resolution, and then you don't have to provide solutions and no solution is put forth and people get more passionate and more upset and the system.
Can't do it you're putting strains on the system, because you are too lazy and too stupid, and I'm not talking about any of these kids, I'm talking about the politicians or using these kids in members
Media or using these kids are too lazy or too disingenuous or too stupid to come up with solutions, and so instead you tried a bunch of kids were not expected to have solutions so that you can have them complain about the problem.
And if anybody points out that nobody providing a solution like well, those are kids. Why would you expect them to have solutions? I don't expect you to have solutions, and I expect you to stop with the political manipulation in which you are engaged, because it is gross and very, very bad for the system. Okay time for a quick thing that I like and then the thing that I hate so things that I like it today. So there is eight older series that is really quite excellent called the killing. This is on AMC, it's star a and is now actually available on Netflix having originally it aired on AMC and the series is kind of a slow burn. It's kind of slow moving and
and there is one particular performance in this series that is really first rate- I'm remember the name of the actor. It's really here's a little bit of the trailer and I'll look up the name of the actor in the meantime who are you I'm holding,
county. You, history of running Larson, Linda
Ok, so this series opens with the death of a teenager and then the entire first season about investigation of death. What makes
he's. A little bit different is there's a lot of focus on the immediate family and the aftermath of the killing. So it's it's actually quite disturbing in that way. The performance of Joel Kinnaman in this Joel Kinnaman plays holder, who sort of a side kick to the main character. Morale no set, and I'm not sure her name, is pronounced and can a man is just terrific. He he plays the Father in Hana, which I'm also recommended he's also in altered carbon, which is really into
series, and he is really excellent. I he can. He can really inhabit apart. If I had not known that he was on those other series. I wouldn't have known that he was in those other series. There's been some talk about Kinnaman as potential James Bond in the future. When you watch this or you watch altered carbon, you start to see why people are talking that way, so you can check out the killing. I think there four seasons that are available on Netflix Anne it's worth. The watch is pretty interesting
for a quick thing that I hate. Ok, so when people suggest that maybe the left leaning media wishes to turn down our social institutions, it's because of pieces like this, the New York Times magazine has a piece by Malia Wolin called how to propose an open relationship. Now. The answer to this is don't write. The answer is: don't because, as it turns out open relationships as a general rule are not good for people, it monogamy
is good for you. It makes you a better person. It urges you to control the drives that are not supposed to overpower you. It urges you to view people as people and not as sex objects.
Alchemy is an inherent good
I don't know why that has become a controversial proposition, but I will stick to it anyway now
he is an inherent good there's something good about monogamy, but the New York Times is going to recommend how you can broach the subject of nope
relationship with your spouse by the way? Ninety five percent of people who do this will be mad because it
without men are much more interested in open relationships than women as a general rule, Terry Conley, a professor of psychology at the University of Michigan, who studied sexuality, says, don't bring it up during an argument. Yeah, you think you're arguing with your spouse, like you know what, let's just go. F other people, man that
that's not going to well, if you're, in a monogamist relationship and want to explore making it nonmonogamous raised the topic gradually as a general rule. By the way topics you have to raise gradually with your spouse and probably topics you shouldn't be broken,
I really like it if you have to raise the topic gradually with your spouse. It's pretty good indicator and you have an open conversation about it. Pretty good
indicator that this may not be a topic that is worthy of consideration. Conley says start hypothetically, for example, ask your partner to name the most attractive famous people. You could then say: oh that person is so hot if they propositioned you I'd, be fine. If you had sex with them. If your partner looks horrified at the suggestion, it doesn't bode well. Well, maybe you should have figured this stuff out before you got in a relationship. I know I know suggesting that you might want to base a relationship on values before you get in a relationship with somebody is heresy. Instead, what you're supposed to do is reverse the order of things, so it's so funny
field sitcoms and the usual order of things as you fall in love with somebody, you marry them and then you go to bed with them and now the order of things in every sitcom and every tv show ever. Is you go to bed with them? Maybe you fall in love with them, and then
After ten years you marry them and then were surprised that relationships aren't working as well, because, as it turns out, you know it's the easiest part of relationship having sex with somebody that part super easy as sex is a biological imperative. You know it's the hardest part
the actual relationship part. If you start with that, maybe your relationship will be better, but the New York Times magazine is going to help. You make the case to your spouse that you should be able to screw up
once you decide to make your case outright, be explicit about what you want say. It clearly listen carefully to what your partner wants to make. What sex, reachers researchers call consensual extra, dyadic, dyadic involvement work. You need to be willing to communicate, often
and with empathy, monogamist couples move into non monogamy for all kinds of reasons: unmet sexual desire, boredom illness. Curiosity, open arrangements tend to work best for couples with lower inclinations to jealousy and in the case of heterosexual pairs, less rigid gender norms shocker just the suggestion of romantic permutation can be stimulating. Thank you. New York Times magazine you're, definitely you're, definitely making things better if both parties appear willing to try an open relationship, give yourself a trial period, I'm so glad that the New York Times has turned into Cosmo Cosmo, Circa, one thousand nine hundred and ninety three a good job in New York Times Journalism ing of the highest order. Ok will be back here later today with two additional
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