Sherrilyn Ifill, the president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, talks to Bill Whitaker about the killing of George Floyd and what its aftermath means for America. Scott Pelley looks at a report on the reopening the city of San Antonio, Texas amid coronavirus and the consequences of the lockdown. An Oklahoma law created to protect children from abuse punishes people deemed guilty of failing to stop the abuse. But Sharyn Alfonsi finds that several sentences were more severe on women than man abusers. Those stories on this week's "60 Minutes."
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we keep saying, this is twenty twenty. How can this be happening? People are so sharp. It can be happening because we haven't dealt with this and so will constantly feel like we're being
thrown back in time. Sharer loon eiffel is the president of the
W c p legal defence fun as you
Tonight few americans
more insight into the pain protest,
and re salt in the country to do what
Have seen now is how fragile democracy is.
san Antonio, is america's seventh largest city, like the
the nation. It's beginning a high stakes: experiment in reopening we talked with
the owners about the city's unique plan to get people back to work while attempting to raise public confidence. The unanswered question, if you cleanse it, will they come
do you think it's too early to open or too late
is her case.
unusual case where they got it wrong. Was she that one in a million? Unfortunately not? What have you learned that one in four women sentenced for failure to protect receive a harsher seconds than the actual abuser? Sixty minutes
examine public records and identified fourteen other women in Oklahoma, who received harsher punishments for enabling child abuse. Then the man who abuse the child
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more than one hundred ten thousand americans have lost their lives to the novel corona virus, but it was the taking of
one american life. George Floyd's, a black man by
light minneapolis police officer that has
in this country, to its core, Mr Floyd's village.
tape, killing, shocked the conscience and triggered levels of protest and rage. This
three hasn't seen in half a century.
For law and order. President trump launched a military response in the nations capital. How did we get to this place and where do we go from here? We sought wise.
also from sharing eiffel president of the end of a lazy, p legal defence fund, an attorney whose organization has argued cases of racial injustice before the supreme court and has worked with administrations of both parties. Race lies at so much of the core of what is problematic in our society today and that route that is so easily exploitable, because we have not had the courage in this country and particularly most why people have not had the courage to really decided. This is your job every day as
Citizen is to deal with the fractures that, ultimately, if we don't confront them, will destroy us. We must surely arrival at the national constitution centre in philadelphia. It's closed to the public because of the pandemic. The centres.
It's just across the more from independence hall and just down the street from scenes of protest and violence that
the city of brotherly love, like so many others.
we are seeing the life squeezed out of george floyd by officer Derek
children's me on his neck for eight minutes and forty six seconds has brought
the floor again
the reality of racial injustice mirror. Why was this incident? Such a spark? I've been doing this
for a very long time and I've seen a lot of terrible videos and- and this one actually struck me differently- also what what was different about it. It was long it was long and to see someone's life being taken from them. With that kind of excruciating
liberation, the officer looking out it s like that looks at the camera, knows he's being recorded and doesn't seem to care. That's important, because it was believed and said,
by many that now that we had the videos, things would be different, and so I think one of the reasons why the George floyd video set us off so much was the realisation that it's not different. We ve, we ve seen the videos and the video seem not to make a difference, and that's why that officer could look like that. He wasn't afraid of being videotaped. He wasn't trying to hide what he was doing. What about the other officers? What is their complicity? The officer who killed george
most directly, Derek, shall van who had eighteen misconduct, complaints against him already. Nothing can be done without officer. But when I looked at the
is around him. They seem to me like more of the people who probably our police officers, who who stand and watch or bystanders man. That's why the other officers are so
important, because we were here once again that this is about a bad apple, a bad apple and it's not about a bad apple. It's about a system, a system of actors and those who are complicit with those actors. There are moments in this country when their photographs that are snapshots of the soul of this country, it
must hold up a mirror to this country and when we see this picture of the nonchalance with which america will put its knee on the neck of black people and make itself deaf to our suffering death, to our cries deaf to our desperation, that's the snapshot. That's america! That's america! That can can see african americans suffering from disproportionately from covert infection and covert death can see us subject to housing. Discrimination can see us as the lowest
workers can see us being victims of voters. Suppression can see our desperation and still
change still want,
at the knee up. One bit.
George Floyd's killing,
reveals in amerika. We haven't seen in generation armed soldiers
guard the lincoln memorial looting across the country,
a new deal drive in beverly hills on kinsman
haven't in philadelphia and, like this
the warming of the best deal. The third precinct police station headquarters for the officers more rested, George floyd was set ablaze, but as the smoke cleared, the images that emerged for these americans of every color age and gender filling streets across the country in daily massive peaceful protests.
Like the one in front of the white house monday that
To me,
when the attorney general bill bar approve plans for federal officers and armed troops to forcefully clear the streets on Monday night.
After seven straight days of protest, all over the country, president trump said
I am the law and order president. What did you make of that? It was a frankly I'm among the most appalling displays of power. I really have ever seen and certainly have ever seen in this country and really constituted a moment of tremendous debasement for this democracy. But what do you mean? I mean that the president wanted to show that he was strong. He wanted to do a photo op in front of it
church holding a bible and he wanted to show and to demonstrate his version of strength, which is tier, gassing, peaceful protesters outside the white house. When, when you see his version of strength, it sounds like you, don't think that that should
strength. Well, we call them strong men because that's their goal is to appear strong, but actually there is so much more strength.
and the willingness to lead a true democracy. You are
We are strong because you can hear descent
It is not strong to gas people and to stand in front of a building with the bible. That's not strength! That is a performance. The president is called the violence across the country, domestic terrorism and use so that he will be done
meeting the streets? You no more concerning to me than the president saying we have to dominate. The streets was listening to that phone call and hearing our attorney general
bill bar say, but we must dominate the streets. The attorney general of the united states saying that on a phone call with governors, part of the thing that has been so alarming is not MR trump himself, but the amount of people who have been willing to go along with things that we would have regarded as beyond the pay.
And who have been willing to be part of this unravelling of our democracy. As that would
You think he's going on. I do think that's happening what we
seeing now is how fragile democracy is. It requires work. It requires people to be vigilant. It requires people saying no
To a leader who is out of control.
And so I do think that that is where we are, but even so we
not seen protest on this scale.
Certainly in generation, doesn't something like this call for an increased use of force, responding to protests that emanate from anger about the excessive use of force with an excessive use of force.
Strikes me as not a good strategy for law and order, his attorney general bar reached out to the legal defence one now at any time now has anyone in this administration reached out to the legal defence? One
not that I can think of. Surely an eyeful is used to talking truth to powerful men and institutions for the law,
Seven years she has directed the legal defence fun found
eighty years ago by thurgood marshal the first black justice on the: u s supreme court,
She and her staff of one hundred fight civil rights cases all over the country. She told us the job is getting any elizabeth.
This is twenty two business, twenty twenty, but you know what happens when you don't deal with things that you should have dealt with in the past. Is that you keep reliving the past. We keep saying this is twenty twenty? How can this be happening? People are so shocked. It can be happening because we haven't dealt with this and so will constantly feel like we're being thrown back in time when you saw those men and a truck chasing a mud arbitrary in georgia and taking a what I've been calling a hunt, video because that's what it looked like
That looked like something from another century, I feel, is a form of board member of the constitution centre in philadelphia. She told us she believes deeply.
The law and the? U S, constitution, which
cs as an incomplete document written by eighteen
free revolutionary idealist, many of whom
sleeves yeah, they didn't get the job done. You know they left. This work for the rest of us to do to make america live up to its ideal.
Well, at the very least, and we should be creating new ideals. You know the constitution doesn't have to just be that static document. We have amended it many times. We amended it to give women the right to vote. We amended it to accept
the vote to eighteen year olds,
we always have the possibility of improving the republic, but because the people have to have the will to do it and the cat.
The quotas of not doing the work are what we ve been seeing
anyone whose lamenting what we ve been seeing over the last two weeks ask them how much they have worked to improve this country. This instagram, posed by le Jim
reminded us that, before the knee on the neck, there was the
me on the ground when professional
all players silently protested, police killings of black americans. They were condemned by the poor,
didn't Andy the nfl friday, the lee
conceded it was wrong when peaceful protest is cut off.
how're legitimate complaints to be heard when we peacefully protest were called ungrateful were called unpatriotic when, in fact to do the work of trying to make this country better, is the highest form of patriotism. The highest form of patriot
In fact, it is the lack of patriotism in this country. The unwillingness of too many americans to work to make this country better that actually accounts for the condition in which we find ourselves
and this is where we find ourselves in just the last dec.
An endless stream of images of black men and women killed at the hands of law enforcement or armed vigilantes, craven Martin era garner
Michael brow to mere rice, walter, Scott, freddy gray, philander castillo terror,
Crusher, both him jaw among
arbitrary brian,
taylor, George floyd.
after all. You have witnessed about ray
relations in the united states. What gives you hope.
Well, I don't know of any thing in the history of black people in this country in which I've read some account in which it ended with an
and they gave up that's just not what we do. I know that we work for the future of
children and our grandchildren and their children that's our
nation, we don't have any other choice
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pleasantly surprised friday. When the federal bureau of labour statistics said, unemployment had fallen to just
over thirteen percent, but
There was a mistake
the bill s due to a miss classification error, the job
rate was likely three percentage points higher above
steam per cent.
confusion of the pandemic, its estimated nearly five million for load americans warrant counted as unemployed
This report also said. Joblessness fell for whites and hispanics, but
chris slightly for black and asian americans
it's another sign of uncertainty as the. U s reopens with no vaccine, many
states now suffering a surgeon coded cases, including com,
for you, florida and taxes we
four hands of our future in San Antonio,
just seventh largest city,
its known as the alamo say, and its preparing for
see what does europe.
I mean to you like a child. It's my family,
it's my dreams, and where do you find yourself today, working
harder than I've ever worked in my entire life earning a fraction of what were used to earning and waking up in the middle of the night, trying to figure out how we're going to keep the boat floating or boat is form table.
Elizabeth Johnson's restaurant floats on the federal bailout that pays her employees and money from charities that pay her to feed the hungry if we can just make it to october and november without another relapse of come,
without another stay at home order and shut down. That gives me hope.
Is a resurgence. Can you be that I have to failure, is not an option
She has no option but to improvise her federal payroll
protection, money runs out in July, can
be open and stay open at the state mandated fifty percent capacity. It is a hope and a prayer that,
we do not have a second wave between now and then it is a hope in a prayer that our customers are going to continue to support and frequent us and that they are just trying to quarantine themselves
Homes, the historic three trillion dollar federal bailout was far reaching, but not far sighted paycheck part
money for many businesses. Higher unemployment benefits,
bans on foreclosures for federally backed mortgages run out this summer findings in march. That two days
after the bailout was signed, the view from the
whose garden was way with rosy em. We can expect that by june.
we will be well on our way to recovery, we think by june. First, a lot of great things will be happening nine weeks later june. First,
the non partisan congressional budget office. Estimated a full recovery will too
nine years june. First,
also saw at least sixteen states with rising rates of infection, including taxes which had
early. Seventy thousand known infections and seventeen hundred dead
I never gonna, be out of the woods until there's therapy until there's vaccine, and we have to learn to live with that run, neurons
as mayor of San Antonio or their metrics at you,
at every day every hour to see if this is the right thing at the right time,.
There are the ones that we look at most closely are the hospitalizations,
but we also want to make sure that we're not seeing a spike in the severity of cases. People at our meeting,
I see you treatment and the data
right now. We're telling you what we
we are seeing an increase in transmission as a result of new activities being introduced and they opened their slow opening of the economy. But we
also seeing a stable rate of capacity in our hospitals and an increase in the amount of testing that allows us to assess the
breath of this infection he's managing the breadth of this infection with a plan
and tony o developed itself, including testing door to door to try to contain outbreaks before they explode. We ve put our public health professionals. Are medical experts out front to give us the data? The plain truth of what this?
good bad, an ugly texas had one of the shortest stay at home periods in may it open.
most businesses with significant limits. The early result is a record spike in known infections. According to the texas department of state health services,
Nell Pizarro is reopening a licence day care in her home. If one target think we have to close ourselves
praying that everybody says healthy and we can continue operating, watches
have to ensure that we are able to have enough revenue to continue operating. She has
teachers on federal payroll protection that will last her up
four more weeks
she has a mortgage deferment that in
this month and that money that
we're not paying a mortgage, allow us to pay for food
and to keep their lifetime. You had how many children in the dark here before love, how many parents or bringing their kids back at eight, what happened to the others, the others decided to keep their children home for safety reasons that
Question of public confidence is india impatient eyes of every masked business. If you please it will they come
You think it's too early to open or to light, I think, is a little too
early in my in my personal opinion, in the sense that we have not yet seen the drop in the numbers that we were supposed to see, but then again I'm a chef. You know I want to.
Look, geronimo lopez took the lead and reopen
his restaurant bautista at fifty percent capacity. After
training many of the forty five employees he laid off. What are you doing?
employees. To do then minimum contact with the plate and with a guess that we can
people can download a man? You look at it in their phone contactless pay options for for our gas, so there's less interaction there. Can you make a goal that at fifty percent this is our best bet at the moment to tell you that I am confident that we can do. It will be a lie
He can't be confident until humanity returns to the empty halls of the fifteen billion dollar san antonio tourism and convention industry
city anticipates losing forty million in hotel taxes alone and had to furlough too
in seventy city workers, the virus turned a battle cry into a question. Remember the alamo.
This was the twenty eighteen final for at the alamo dome. Today,
Then you was known for images of thousands of cars lining up for food.
Antonio food bank is spending about six million dollars a week, much of that donated by local businesses. Those pictures are an illustration of
level of desperation that millions of americans have had prior to this pandemic, the mayor toll.
The virus exposed a mirage in our former economy, even in the good times.
San Antonio had the highest poverty rate among the largest metro areas about fifteen percent
but poverty among hispanics and blacks is double the rate for whites. The economy with strong prosperity was fragile. Those food bank lines doubled almost overnight when this crisis began and things begin a shudder and shut
and up to about a hundred and twenty thousand families. In a week,
lines.
That means that, prior to this pandemic, when we were at three percent unemployment, when we had an economy that was on a roll, sixty three
families a week.
antonio were dependent on the food bank for food, and those pictures represent
Desperation that far too many american families have had to deal with among the desperate jackie Galvin,
in two thousand and ten. She was San Antonio's realtor of the year, then the pandemic killed the market nationally, going on and a lot of my clients
We are at fear of the unknown. She too
had little to fall back on. I got my first unemployment check for the first time ever. First, I'm ever that was
ordeal now she's fighting eviction and how far
on the rent, or you know it's three months now, there's a ban on evictions from
property with federally back mortgages, but that ends nation wide. In about two months, Galvin,
the landlord doesnt have alone, and so he wants
right now
endorse on the extra six hundred dollars a week and unemployment, but that programme
internationally next month. I thought we're all in this together, like every commercial says, and it wasn't the case for me, the balled up rage after the death of
george floyd in police custody rose and san Antonio, too, and, as elsewhere, anger caused amnesia face. Masks were forgotten before George floyd,
This was a protest in texas over the masks themselves, reopening pitted the republican state government, which one
Fewer restrictions again
the mayors of dallas and Austin, who are Democrats,
braun nuremberg, whose independent you received a letter from the Texas attorney general's office, saying that you're controls and san Antonio were too strict
go health professionals in nuremberg mandated masks with the penalty of a fine? He included how
as of worship in his ban on gatherings of more than ten people and even accuse you of quote trampling religious freedom. So we have had a a groundswell of support within our fate
congregations that have allowed us to begin to open
the generals letter was simply trying to score cheap political points which he has been doing. His entire career
the governor, overruled nuremberg, mask mandate and exempted houses, worship the texas attorney
general's office told us that the city's quote grossly exceeded
state law to impose
our own will on private citizens. How did a public health emergency become political.
Well, unfortunately, that's the air we live. People are starting to get answers and frustrated. There are people in political positions that are want to take advantage of that. The conflict conferred
it's the business owners, but restaurant tour, geronimo lopez, found a way to cut through well. What we decided to do was follow the higher standard. So that's how I think we can clear all the misinformation you know. Just whatever is the higher standard for safety? That's the one
we're going follow in late may, cars lined up again as they had for food at the alamo dumb, but
Time they carried a nervous hope so
antonio's reopening plan gave away protective gear to five thousand small businesses
Including Elizabeth Johnson's, restaurant thermometers face mass face coverings, hand sanitize her and you shine the pledge. I did sign the pledge and it is now posted
my front door of my restaurant. The san antonio pledge is a commitment by businesses to masks, distancing temperature checks, sanitizer
cdc, cleaning protocols, contactless payment and employee training
or make for some not on the list it and was holding your breath that, before the results of the great reopening experiment, what gives you hope? What gives me hope is our community,
colleagues, my employees would or your fears going forward. My fears are that we have not even begun to see the bottom of this economic downturn and that the next six months to a year is going to be the most trying time of of our
ives strategies. We may have been criminals seeking redemption. That's not where we are now takes courage, we're firefighters, fire Kansas has taken chains from producer, jerry, bruckheimer or save as many lives as possible. Tv's top new series. Three. Incidentally, the poor stains from the monitoring work. Don't worry, let's go. We can do this country fridays on CBS streaming on paramount the eighteen years ago.
Oklahoma adopted a law designed to stop child abuse is commonly known as failure to protect non paper. It makes perfect sense
any parent or guardian, who knows a child, is being abused and fails to protect the child can be charged with felony and sent to prison, but in practice, Oklahoma, courts and prosecutors have treated women differently than men under the failure to protect
law. We found more than a dozen cases in which mothers who are never found to abuse their children were given much harsher punishments than the men who did half of those women who are victims of abuse themselves,
mabel passive correctional centre resumed the homeless, medium security, prison for women and home
tony hall for much of the last fifteen years, and how often do you get to see the kids?
It's been a while when women
She was half way through with thirty year prison sentence for failing to protect her twenty months old son and three month old daughter from being abused by their father robert.
Extent never suspected that he was her name is no. I don't think they would head.
They never found any evidence to you hit the children, but then you allowed him to hit the children is, but that is what they said. That's what you never saw. Those babies get
would it took them away, we would have been away. If I want to see me,
That's just that's not me.
Was just sixteen when she fell in love with braxton. They lived in this apartment com.
Eggs in Oklahoma city were hall, as stated in sworn affidavit that,
Physically abused turk and his rage, she
as was fuelled by resentment because
he worked while he stayed at home with the kids he went screaming me call me different names. He told me that if you put yourself in the man's position, then you deserve to be hit. He told you
deserve to be after two years of abuse. She'd had enough and asked her father to take her apart
and hunting one night after work in two thousand for digital.
needed. Indians had saved some checks, and so I put him in my babies, diaper bag and
Ghana Truckle monday and ended up fine in a house tat night,
and the next morning that's
my youngest, he was walking
that's what I noticed about his leg being heard, what did you say.
leg was swollen, so I
We call the doktor, you call it a day
later, when her one year old son didn't get better hall brought her son to the emergency,
Room and you take him to the hospital, what happens.
And the lady was like you, you know what tablets what's goin on. You know what happened desolate
The nurses. I told me that his leg was fractured halt
than the broken leg may have been caused by rough housing, but x rays, told a different story. The little boy also had twelve broken ribs and was put in a body cast a meadow
Exam of his three month old sister found similar injuries, which doctors believe were inflict.
Some time in the previous two weeks, Oklahoma city police had plenty of time.
Djinns bertone hall and Robert braxton.
Did you ever turned around and say? Did you hurt the kids?
I had asked him. I was. Why did you do so
He was like shut up, laws lie way,
He's, like don't say now, shut up peoples.
How did she not now know who was working
when you said I could leave the city.
well of him abuse it.
I didn't know he didn't so. My kids.
we're trying to get asked. Yes, I was trying to leave both holland.
Braxton were arrested and put in county jail. He was charged with child abuse
well. She was charged under the states failure to protect law with enabling the abuse in Oklahoma.
That means you know or reasonably should have known that a child is at risk of abuse. Paul agreed to tell
To buy against her boyfriend, but she says
continue to threaten her in jail while away,
try.
Reggie letters you because I was gonna, testify against tale.
I outlined a picture of his hand.
And what did he rises? Slap yourself self bit from jail in his answer to.
Tony house, as the abuse she suffered, was not introduced in her failure to protect case because she pleaded guilty in hope.
Getting a light sentence. Instead
The judge accused the young mother of being less than candid about what happened to her children telling you about when you were sentenced and walk me through that day. What happened? My heart just broke, because I didn't understand.
Still understand any and mixed. You know I felt that I got thirty years and what
three of my mother I say thirty years over with my life, is over. As for Robert braxton,
he pled guilty to child abuse. The judge decided the two years: he'd served awaiting trial in jail was enough. He walked free, as tony hall went to prison. How can that happen? Sexism, their belief that women are culpable
everything that goes on in the home, meaning and lambert, is a lawyer for the american civil liberties union and alive.
long oklahoma and she became
as lawyer four years ago, people will
antony's case and say
there's! No. If hair is off on the baby's head, they know when something's wrong. She should have no
you don't always.
The women are not always in charge of taking care of their kids. It is
sometimes difficult to recognise those patterns of abuse, especially if you are in the throes of abuse yourself. Your entire worldview
is clouded and you are truly and survival mode. Is
a case that unusual case where they got it wrong? Was she that one in a million? Unfortunately not? What have you learned that one in four women sentenced for failure to protect receive
our second than the actual abuser. Sixty minutes examine public records and identified fourteen other women in Oklahoma, who received harsher, punish
men's for enabling child abuse. Then the man who abuse the child. He can't have a cookie cutter for these cases. Theirs
different Emily redman was not involved in the cases we examined, but she is one of the few
struck attorneys in Oklahoma, who has prosecuted failure to protect cases and was willing to talk to us about the law? The penalties range from fines up to life in prison. Do you think opel got this right? The way that
I now I think Oklahoma does have a rod. I mean to me the most important duty that parents
and citizens have is to take care of our children. You like that the law is broad. I do. I have had defendants who were charged with failing to protect that got county jail time, because the case that's what it was worth. But how do you make sense of these cases where the abuser who's a man goes to prison for less time than
A woman whose charged with enabling maybe one party asked for a jury trial
curious incense. By what they see and hear, maybe the other party took responsible,
with the early on in an admitted there
To end and took a plea offer, so every cases is different.
He says the case of cheyenne. Wolf is a good example the twelve year
endured, abuse for years at the hands of her stepmother Denise. Her father, able wolf, knew about the beatings,
and did nothing to stop it. He had become uncomfortable with such comfortable and he walked outside and smoked a cigarette, so he left
he left cheyenne died hours after a beating in their home, Emily ray
in successfully prosecuted the stepmother on charges of abuse that resulted in five life sentences. The judge gave the girls father a hundred years in prison for failure to protect this particular case. The facts were so bad and they abased went on so long that the fact that that range of punishment is so broad was helpful because able wolf deserved every second,
Of time that he got, but when it comes to failure to protect their is a gender gap in Oklahoma, a coup
into the latest data, provided the sixty minutes from Oklahoma district attorney's there.
Forty one women in prison for failure to protect, but just sixteen men.
even though governments statistics show men and women abused children at nearly the same rate, what's working in the past has not got us where we want to be.
Oklahoma's republican governor Kevin stared campaigned on a promise to take a hard look at the state's laws and tough sentencing with the enabling child abuse laws. You can serve up to a life sentence as how broad, and that is right now the senate. Does that sound right to you? It does. It sounds sounds too long and in some of the things that we want to, we want to address in our state
Oklahoma has the highest incarceration rate for women in the country. Why?
women being incarcerated at such a high rate. Now, for whom I mean it's double the national average, I think it goes back to our just
laws are synod, seem overtime, has just kind of gotten away from us. If something should be six months, Senate's less not give it six years, just because we want to be tough one crime right. Why has the effect on the state of these heavy incarceration right when you have had the incarceration? It affects everything in society, you think about the fosters system, and then the statistics, if you have a parent incarcerated, the likelihood that
It is yet to be there as well just goes up astronomically. In november, governor states signed the biggest single day commutation in american history, releasing five hundred
twenty seven non violent offenders? A week later, the parole board asked him to approve tony halls: release anybody about opposite
with abuse, but especially some one who didn't commit the crime. It was time to give her a second chance.
After fifteen years,
Tony hall finally walked out of the mabel bassett correctional centre and into the arms,
her children. Now teenagers
with my family.
I
I've of inmates line the fence to say goodbye.
What's the thing you
joint most about just being free man may enable just a beer, roma, children and family. You know
we caught up with tony hall. She told us she was rebuilding a relationship with our kids and savouring. They get
and there she dreamed about, while in prison gene
new job as a hare stylus, and plans to speak up for abuse women who the law has failed
to protect some of the women there are in their their broken. They dont want to talk about it, so I just hope to help somebody anybody,
this is the takeout with major garrett or special guest, morocco, and we're going to talk about obituaries. There's no podcast. I love more than this one. It's basically things that I think deserve a second lock already this season we had John Denver weed names. We looked at names like mildred Bertha and todd of which fell off the map, and I'm sorry that we didn't include major, but that would have been really interesting. Actually do you know where it ranks major, very, very low for more from this week's conversation, follow that take out with major garrett on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts a friend said wistfully last week that he sure where sports were in season,
he didn't mean, is entertainment during a weighty time. He wished at sports were here to amplify the public mood about George floyd's killing and the outcry over police brutality. He wished to proactively to wear
fields and courts, locking arms and scrawling messages of resistance on shoes. Men, yes kneeling in protest, then something remarkable happen. The same athletes
effectively been followed by covert since early march, limburg up and spoke up. This was in keeping with the tradition
he robinson and mohammed Ali and cream, Abdul Jabbar and yes, carbon capture nick, are among the athletes who have fought systemic racism, but last week
paraded from the grind of a season unencumbered by risk, averse team owners and publicists athlete voices echoed extra loud. They flooded social media, of course, but they also took to the streets
Put together, the George floyd story became at least in part, a sport story like an athlete coming back from injury, we'll see what role sports will feel now, where the leagues themselves will stand and what conversations will feel like
rooms. We envision sports emerging not as distraction or lightness, but something heavier more realm.
to repairing this deep tear in the national fabric. Athletes may grip rackets and clubs and the seams of balls, but, as we have just been reminded, they have a unique grip on us as well
I'm John worth times and we'll be back next week with another new edition of sixty minutes.
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