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2021-03-28

A former Clinton administration National Safety Council official and a member of the WHO advisory committee on genetic engineering tells Lesley Stahl that the Chinese did not allow the WHO-led team to carry out a full and unrestricted inquiry into the origin of the coronavirus outbreak. Anderson Cooper gets rare access inside Boston Dynamics' robotics workshop. Jon Wertheim reports on how a high school girls basketball team and all-star sportswriter Dave Kindred formed a bond. These stories on this week's "60 Minutes."

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Is great deals for everyone is. If so, is that even supposed to look after our dog walker guy, we almost forgot about that this doctor, based on the better reciprocate the I wouldn't really call what's happened now, an investigation, it's essentially a highly chaperoned, highly curated study, tour study. Tour study to everybody around the world is imagining. This is some kind of full investigation. It's not. This group of experts.
only saw what the chinese government wanted them to see. So here's a little bit of a job and that's incredible. There's a lot of incredible things. Going on at boston dynamics, a cutting edge, robotics company sixty minutes have been trying to get inside out for years. This is inside atlas, his brain and it shows its perception system is going to use that vision to adjust itself as it goes running over these last deep kindred is among the best ever to write about sport in america and he's covered them off our lee tiger Martina
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by the world health organization was delayed again, it was supposed to be a kind of post mortem on a trip to I, now, by a w h, o led team of international scientists which took place earlier this year. The question: how did sars kogi to the virus that causes covered nineteen originate among the leading fear is examined. Was it accidentally leaked the lad and move on, or did it come from infected animals in a wet market there, the w waco inquiry was far from comprehensive because, as it has done since the beginning of the outbreak, the chinese government withheld information. I wouldn't really call what's happened now: an investigation, its essentially a high Lee chaperoned highly curated study tour studied tour study to it
Nobody around the world is imagining. This is some kind of full investigation. It's not this group of experts only saw what the chinese government wanted them to see. Jamie metal, former annesley official in the Clinton administration and member a w h, o advisory committee on genetic engineering is one of more than two dozen experts include varela judges who signed an oak letter earlier this month. Calling for a new international inquiry with a return to china the letter says the w h, o team did not have the independents or access to carry out a full and unrestricted investigation. Specifically in possible accidental leak from a laboratory at the wool hon Institute of technology in the city where the first outbreak occurred. We would have to ask the question well why, in war on to quote humphrey bogart,
of all the gin joins in all the towns in all the world. Why would hide what we hung does have? Is china's level for virology institute with probably the world's largest collection of that viruses, including that corona viruses I had seen at the world third organization team only spent three hours at the lab, while they were there, they didn't demand access to the records and samples and key personnel that's because of the ground rules. China sat with w h, o, which has ever had the authority to make demands or enforce international protocols. It was agreed first that china would have veto power over over who got to be on the mission. Secondly, and w h, o agreed to that delay, rachel agreed that, on top of that, the w h agreed that in most instances china would do the primary investigation
then just share its findings with these international experts. So these international experts were allowed to do their own primary, investigate you're, saying that china did the investigation and showed the results to the committee, and that was it really much now. Is it not entirely that pretty much? That was it? Imagine if we had asked the soviet union to do a co, invest creation of chernobyl. It doesn't really make sense. China had ruled out a lab accident long before the w h, o team, arrived at the airport and move on on january fourteenth and were greeted by people in full p p gear the team included some of the world's leading experts on how viruses are transmit from animals to humans, but even though there have an accident, a lab leaks of viruses in china in the past that have infected people and killed? At least
one. No one on the team was trained and how to formally investigate a lab like they were therefore for weak mission, but two of those weeks were spent hold up at this hotel in quarantine. Once out, they had some tense exchanges with their counterparts, a team of chinese exports over their refusal to provide, data. Are you if the virus originated in animals? One of the mysteries has been. How did it traveled. A thousand miles from the bat caves southern china, to walk on the w. Joe team thinks it found the answer. What we found was part of this, We await your mission to china is that there is a pathway peter dash jack. member of the w h, o team and an expert on how animal
viruses jumped to humans has worked on previous viral outbreaks, including in china, he says the pathway leads not to the lab and move on, but for wildlife farms in southern china directly to the wet market in move, the law on non seafood market. The theory is that somehow, that vaska from a bat into one of these wild, farms and then the animals were ships into the market and that they contaminated people. Whether we're handling them chopping them killing them, whatever you do before you cook and animal wild animals, yet they live their traditional food sector, These are like ferrets is also animal called a ferret badger rabbits which we know can carry the virus. Those animals were coming into the market from farms of a thousand miles. Why were you go to test any of the animals found in the war on market for the virus. Vulgar china team had done that and they found a few animals left him for
it, they tested them. They were negative, but the fact that those most of that is the clue, but there's no direct evidence that any of those animals were actually infected with the bat correct now it's got to do is go to those farms and investigate taught to the farmers talk to their relatives test them safe. There were spikes embarrassed there. First, If team doesn't actually know if any of the farmers or the trackers wherever infected. No one knows you know it's been that no one's asked them. No one's tested. That's to be done. Despite those unanswered questions w h, o team and their chinese counterparts all agreed that this hypothesis of a pathway from back caves to butchers shops like these is the most likely explanation. Something like seventy. Five percent of emerging diseases come
animals into people seen it before we ve seen in china with sars is the lab leak theory, any more or less speculative, then that we are pathway for an accidental league that that then led to cover to happen. The virus that causes curve. It would need to be in the lab. They never had any evidence of a virus like of it in the lab. They never had the covered nineteen virus not enlarge outbreak. No, absolutely no evidence of that Jamie metal begs to differ. Point to the labs own reports that it sent field researchers to the bat caves who brought back samples with food. Mrs, we know that, among those viruses, one of them is the virus, it is genetically most related to the sars clovy to virus. but most related isn't the same rights exactly, but we do know that.
were nine viruses at least that were brought back and its extremely possible among these. Viruses is a virus that much more closely related to the sars covey to virus, and when I put all those pieces together, I said: hey Second, this is a real possibility. We need to be exploring the pathway that period dasset and the team have come up with now. That sounds plot Above all, it certainly plausible, very seriously. Plies of it is plausible. Let's just say that that theory is correct. You would have had an outbreak, perhaps in southern china, where they have those animal forms. You may have seen some kind of evidence of an outbreak on the way, and there wasn't there wasn't listen. Your theory is also full of holes. I wouldn't say it's full of holes, but its incomplete
That's why we need access to the data in order to prove one hypothesis for another man. all says peter dash jack has a conflict of interest because of his long. I'm collaboration with the one lab, I'm on the your for a reason, and if you can work in china on corona viruses and turn understand, origins. You should involve the people who know the most about that and for better or for worse. I do. He says the team did look, to the leak theory during a visit with lab scientists and deemed it extremely unlikely we met with them. We said: do all the lab and those of a newly did you audited after the outbreak. Yes was anything from no Do you test your staff? Yes, no just taking their work for it, but what else can we do this? The limits of what we can do and we went right up to that limit. We asked them tough questions. They weren't vet.
in advance and the answers they gave, we found to be believable correct, unconvincing. But weren't the chinese engage in a cover up they destroyed. evidence they pay. Scientists who are trying to give evidence on this very question of the origin, will that wasn't task to find out if china, covered up the original. I know I'm just saying. Doesn't that make you wonder why see any evidence of any false reporting or cover up in the word, the waded in china, where their chinese government minders in the room, every time. You are asking questions that were ministry of foreign affairs staff in the room. Through our stay absolutely They were there to make sure everything went smoothly from the china side and make sure they weren't telling you the whole truth and nothing. But you sit in a room with people who are scientists, and you know what a scientific statement
and you know what a political statement as we had no problem, distinguishing between the two and unforced speaking of political statements, think of the china virus geo power ex loomed over the inquiry with some tit for tat Jeanne said covered nineteen originated in the: u s: the trump administration cuba. China of a cover up. There was a direct order from beijing, destroy all viral samples and they didn't volunteer to shared the genetic sequences map pot. The then Debbie national security adviser, quoting from declassified and legends information says beijing also head. that several researchers at the wheel, han lab had come down with cold like symptoms and that the chinese military was working with the lab. There is about
research that's been taking place conducted by the chinese military in collaboration with the work on his suit of reality, which has not been acknowledged by the chinese government. We ve seen the data I personally seeing the data why the military Why were they in that lab? We don't know it is a major lead that needs to be pursued by the press. Certain I world health organization beijing is simply not interested in allowing us to find the answers to those very pertinent questions with the where's government does know, he says, is that the Hon lab director, publish studies about. Nicky, alighting, bat, corona viruses and away the make them more infectious to humans, and there were reports of lack, safety standards at the lab. They were doing search specifically on krona viruses that attached to the ace to receptors, inhuman lungs, just like the covert nineteen
Is that a smoking gun? No, it's circumstantial evidence, but it's a pretty potent bullet point wooden when you consider that the place where this pandemic emerged was a few kilometers away from the will hunt institute virology, the lack of transparency has led to widespread criticism. Of the w a job for agreeing to china's demands, but one thing that I wish that the debate you had done is to pick up their megaphone and start screaming through it to demand that china be more transparent it is open its borders to allow american cdc officials and other exe from the debate shown around the world to come, investigate and to help after fifteen months and more two point: seven million deaths worldwide. It was hoped the team would provide some clarity on the origin of covert nineteen, but the exercise ends with even more questions than it began. With
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we ve been trying without any love to get into boston dynamics workshop for years and a few weeks ago, they finally agreed to let us in after working out strict kobe pro cause. We went to massachusetts to see how they make robots. Do the unimaginable. From the outside boston dynamics. Headquarters looks pretty normal. side. However, its anything, but if we wonka made robots his workshop, might look something like this: there are robots in corridors offices and animals. They trot and dance in world to hunt or so human robot assess, who build and often break them, barely bad, and I that is atlas
Was human looking robot, they ve ever made its nearly five feet tall, a hundred and seventy five pounds in its programme to run leap and spin like an automated acrobat. work raibert, the founder and chairman of Boston dynamics doesn't like to play. Favorites definitely has a soft spot fragile. So here s a little bit of john, when that's incredible atlas is indeed all these on its own technician, Brian hollings, the steering it with this remote control, but the robots where allows it to make other key decisions autonomously. So really robot is doing all it own and all its own control. Brien's steering is telling it what speed and direction it's computers are adjusting how the legs are placed and what forces it's applying in order to keep it balanced it was balances with the help of sensors, as well as a gyroscope and the onboard computers. It was definitely built to be pushed around
I push it a little bit more. It's just trying to keep it's balance. Just like you will I the end. You can push it in any direction. You can push it from the side, The making machines that can stay upright on their own and move through the world with the ease of an animal or human, has been an obsession of mark roberts for forty years. The space of time you've been working in is nothing compared to the time it's taken for animals and humans developed. Some people look at me and say: oh You ve been stuck on this problem for forty years. Animals are amazingly good and people at dumb at what they do. You know, so agile, we're so versatile. We really have an achieve what humans can do yet, but I think I think we can Maybe it isn't making it easy for himself he's given most of his robots legs. Why focus on on legs? I would think wheels would be easy.
Yeah wheels in tracks are great. If you have a prepared surface like a road or even a dirt road, but people and animals can go anywhere on earth using their lax in so that you know, that was the inspiration. Some of the first contraptions he built in the early nineties eighties, bounced around on what looked like pogo sticks. They appeared in this done inventory, when labor was a pioneering professor robotics computer science carnegie Mellon, he founded Boston. Amex. Ninety ninety two- see a robber player, has been working for decades to perfect how robots move they develop? This robot called big dog for the military as well as this larger pack me all that could carry four hundred pounds It's back experimenting with speed. They got this cheetah like robot, to run nearly thirty miles an hour. None of these made it out of the prototype phase, but they did lead This is called spot.
and dynamics made it not knowing exactly how it would be used, but the inspiration for it is hard horror to figure out spot is a main directional robots. I can go forward and backward. This is crazy, the real benefit of legs legs. Give you that capability, that's rubber! later the ceo and Hannah Rossi, a technician who works on spot, I'm doing anything special to let it walk over those rocks Well, the controls are easier to use than you might expect because they have to come in straight out. Don't have to be perfect, have added drive at close to wherever you want and the real will do the rest in some ways. It's like driving a very sophisticated, remote control car. What makes it different spot is
really smart about its own locomotion, it deals with all the details about how to place my feet: what gate to use, how to manage my body so that all you have to tell it is direction I go to, and in some cases you don't even have to do that when signalled spot can take itself, Its charging station and go for a walk on its own as long as its pre programmed the route it uses. Five treaty cameras to map its surroundings and avoid obstacles. I mean it is like something atlas has similar technology. While we were talking in front of atlas. This is how it saw This is inside atlas, his brain and it shows its section system. So what looks like a flashlight is really the aid and its coming back from its cameras, and you see the white rectangles. That means it's identifying a place that it could
yup and then once it identifies it, it attaches those footsteps to it and it says: okay, I'm going to try and step there, and then it adjusts mechanics so that actually hits those places. When it's running All of that happens in a matter of milliseconds, and so it's gonna use that vision to adjust itself as it goes running over these blocks. At least cause tens of millions of dollars to develop, but it's not for sale. Its use, purely for research and development, but spot is on the market. Four hundred around the world itself about seventy a thousand dollars. Apiece piece accessories caused extra. Some spots work utility companies using mounted kim to check on equipment, others on construction sites and several police departments are true,
im out to assist with investigations but suck, but the fear factor when you posted video of atlas or spot doing something. A ton of people are amazed by it and think it's great and there's a lot of people think this is terrifying. The rogue robot story is a powerful story and has been told for a hundred years, but its fiction robots don't have agency. They don't make up their own minds about what their tasks are. They operate within a narrow bound of their programming. It is easy to project human. All of these aren't you these machines. They think people do a tribute to our robots much more than a shared because they haven't seen machines move like this before, and so they they want a project, intelligence and emotion onto that in ways that are future, in other words,
These robots still have a long way to go. I mean it's not seek repo and it's not thinking. So let me tell you that that there is a positive intelligence led a compelling cognitive intelligence is making plans, making decision, reasoning and things like that. It's not during that. It's mostly doing athlete intelligence, which is managing its bodies past years, energetic, if you told us to travel in a circle in the room, you can go through the sequence of steps, but if you ask it to
find me a soda if it's not doing anything like that. Oh no, just picking an item off the floor can sometimes be a struggle for spy, enabling it to open a door has taken years of programming and practice. The human has to tell it where the hinges are. Each time we add some new capability and we feel, like we've, got it to a decent point that when you push it to failure to figure out how good of a job you've really done. Given blankets boards one of the lead engineers here, but at times he prefers a very low tech approach to testing robots, you're, pretty tough, on robots. We think about, as as just another way to put out of the comfort zone. Failure is a big part of the process when trying something new robots like human, don't get it right. Every time might be dozens of Christ. Is for everyone.
excess. How often do you break a robot? We break them all the time I mean as part of our culture. We have a motto: they break it fix it to do that. Boston. makes his recruited. Robot assists with diverse backgrounds, there's plenty a phd but also bike builders and race. Car mechanics bill. Washburn is part of that pit. Crews All look pretty. How often these get need to get repair. The biggest credit failures for me or, like The bottom parlor robot breaks off of the top part of the robot seems like a big I hydraulic houses are the only thing holding it together. Recently rayburn and his team decided to push the robots in a way they never had before we spent at least six months, maybe a just preparing for what we were going to do and then we started to get the technical team working on the behaviour of the bay.
viewer was dancing all their robots got in on the act. The movements were cutting edge, but the music and the mashed potato were definitely holes. There are some people who see that and say that can't be real nothing's more gratifying. That hearing that What's the point in proving that the robot can do the mashed potato, this process of doing new things with iran box lets you generate new tools, new approaches, new understanding of the problem that takes you for, but man isn't just fun, but I mean it's: it costs a lot of money and took ten months of your time. I think it is worth it
whether it will be worth it to boston dynamics. New owners is less clear. A lot of detail the south korean carmaker junta has read to buy a majority. Staying for more than a billion dollars, it'll be boston, dynamic eggs third owner in eight years, there's pressure to turn their research into revenue in boston dynamics hopes this new robot will help it's cold. Stretch in its due to go on sale next year. This is the first time they ve shown it publicly. Warehouses is really the next frontier forever stretch, may not be that exciting to look at, but its built with a definite purpose in mind. It's gonna, seven foot. Warm. They say it can move eight hundred boxes and our in a warehouse work for up to sixteen hours without a break, unlike many does robots that sit in one place. Stretch is designed to move around. You can drive around with joystick
at times? That's easy way to get it set up, but once it's ready to go in a truck and unloaded you had and from there on its autonomous and it'll, keep finding taxes and moving on until it's all the way, through this generation robots is going to be deaf they're, going to work amongst us, they're gonna work next to us in way where we help them, but they also take some of the burden from us. The more robots are integrated into the workforce, the more jobs would be taken away. At the same time, you are creating it the industry, we envision a job. We feel we like to call the robot wrangler he'll launch and manage five to ten robots at a time and sort of keep them all working. Is there a robot you've always dreamt of making? You haven't been able to do a car with its active suspension, essentially legs like like a relish skating roma and a robot like that. You know go anywhere on earth. That's one thing that the EU will do at some point, but you know really
skies the limit, there's there's all kinds of things we can and will do as with so many things, boston dynamics. Does it's hard to imagine how that would work but then again who to florida. of metal machines would one day was all how to do the mesh with, it's one of the guiding principles of journalists. The reporter should never become the
story every now, and then, though, you find a reporter story too good, not to tell in two thousand and eighteen dave, kindred received the pen e s, p n lifetime achievement award for literary sports writing. It was intended as a final bit of punctuation on a gilded career. Little did the presenters know: kindred was still churning out column after column, sweating deadlines, interviewing athletes after exhilarating, wins and deflating losses. Kindred, though, wasn't setting up shop as he had for fifty years. At super bowls world series games, olympics and title fights. Now he was scribbling away, three rows up the bleachers inside high school gyms of central illinois, and it would make for some of the most fulfilling work of kindreds career,
For more than a half century Dave kindred abided a simple sports writing rule be a reporter first and a writer second on the sidelines or the back nine. He wanted to be. There find the story and then paint a picture using words. Let's do the the sports writer equivalent of back of the baseball card. Give me give me the numbers here how many world series him into. I became a columnist deny so went to almost all the workers after that, how we superbowl have you been to forty something? What about the masters? I've been to fifty two masters. First in nineteen, sixty seven and missed nineteen, eighty six, where nothing happened except jack, close one. That's the red smith award, unlike the athletes and teams they cover sports writers are ranked there's no scoreboard or leader, but
and this is dangerous and metal at great wonder to still even in this objective line of work, there aren't perennial all stars and hollow famers, say sports illustrated franked afford in red smith of the new york times and whose sunday column would arrive by train near dave, kindred childhood home of atlanta illinois in a spec alongside route, sixty six kindred would race to the station, get a copy of the newspaper and read every word. I studied them One of the things I ve learned about. Writing is find out where you like, then figure out why you like it, and then do that. So what you like it, I like rhythm of his words, red and use your kind of sportswriter hackney words huge words that the had a music to
you're here in the middle of illinois and you're reading these dispatches about sports, but from all over the world, took me out of that. Second for bedroom. You put me in the press. Boxer wimbledon kindred wrote what he saw in became one of the most influential sports columnist and authors of a generation named sports. I from the last half century and rest assured Dave kindreds covered them to him. Though one athlete was the greatest in nineteen. Sixty six kindred was a cub reporter at the louisville courier journal, bordered by his boss to go find the outgoing ascending local fighter. You meet mohammed ali for the very first time that seems like a pretty big pivot point in your career had to think of it at the time at the time. I just thought about this because a story you know this is fine as heavyweight champion of the world. It marked the first of more than three hundred interviews with Ali who christen dave, kindred louisville, forever alleys hometown
order. Kindred, followed alleys entire career in into molly, just as it were, writing about the butterfly and the bee. Sometimes, in the strangest of places I was trying to do a column, one whose onshore eyes. Meanwhile, his sweet, as always, was full of people he waves, it may look I'll come in here. Try going in there. I standing next to the bed is up the corner of the sheets and says get in while I dunno what you do if the heavyweight champion of the world tell you get in, but I dare you oh and one of us had on clothes. He said that anecdote for a two thousand six do biography. He wrote about Mohammed Ali and howard. Conceal Dave, kindred move On from Louisville to the washington post, the atlanta journal constitution in the sporting news, kindred became one of those hollow famers.
His writings are preserved in the library of his alma mater illinois, wesleyan university, where we unearthed this gem. After the death of the n b, a player pete Maravich, he wrote an inelegant collection of bones: the skinny six foot, five maravich flailed his way down court elbows and knees sharp angles rearranging themselves in ichabod crane on the fastbreak and you dared not blink, has pretty good kindred wrote that line thirty three years ago worked to come up with that, no idea other than you know. That's what he looked like. You want the reader to see the moment. The way you see it he would have kept at it, but for the sad and steady decline of both print media and the role of the general columnist in two thousand and ten
kindred and his wife cheryl play school sweethearts in the fifties figured it was time to return home to the flat out of america. Central illinois they'd sit by the pond outside their log, cabin breed and watch sunset and when the cold within winter, they, like a lot of folks downstate, would repaired to the warmth of a local high school Jim for entertainment. In their case, it was in Morton illinois next town over from peoria to walk the lady potters went to basketball game you're. Like the old war horse, I couldn't sit there not write about what I saw kindred and his wife said in the bleachers, alongside parents, grandparents and high school and his professional
Instincts kicked the he offered to cover the lady potter's for the teams website in positives accounts on facebook as well but first he wanted the blessing of the teams. Coach is muhammad ali and olympics and masters golf and super bowls and bobby knight, and- and here I am a small town- girls, basketball, coach. It's about patience, take care of them. All bob Becker has been head coach of the lady potters since nineteen ninety nine, after some apprehension, who wants to get second guessed by a hard boiled journalist it'll. After that initial shocked and in getting to know who we really was, I mean after a little better research, we ve got the Michael jordan of sports. Writing falls in our lab. The scribe, who, once described in nba player, is echoed by train on a fast break. Now called these new subjects
The golden state warriors with ponytail and there was something about girls, basketball that particularly enthralled kindred. I think I owed a little bit to title nine. The the women athletes I love seeing them play and why should they be ignored in high school athletics? The men's game is vertical. The girls game is horizontal. They have to master the fundamentals, so it's much more fun to watch them and plus they don't pout. They don't bitch for now, kobe has shrunk. The season and the crowds in the potter do but kindreds there his gaze fixed on the action listening in on huddles, but you gotta, fight and scrap and hustle after the buzzer he's outside the locker room for a quote about sport. Yes, tell me about it, which one, albeit self imposed. There is a dance
wind. So after driving home, he ends the day as ever in front of a keyboard. People stay up after the game. Waiting for that article come out. They won't go to bed until they get to read it. So he's got deadlines to meet he's not getting paid anything, but eventually it turned into a box of milk duds. You heard right, kindreds, negotiated compensation, package rocky and said: look, I'm a professional sportswriter I should be getting
something for doing all this stuff for you and he measured my talent and experience and good, looks and said how about a box of milk duds every game and I said deal you drive a hard bargain kindred, then in two thousand and fifteen. Well, you might say the milk duds would turn into lifesavers. Apart from the sugar rush. What do you get out of this wealth? The first five years? It was just the fund, then things started happening as the as they do late in life at a grandson who died. My mother died three months later, the next year my wife had a catastrophic stroke that left her an invalid who cannot communicate yo, so
even in the hospital one of the players, mothers I was debating whether I should leave my wife in the hospital unconscious and go to a lady potter game and the mother said you gotta go, you gotta go and she was right yeah I went you know and what started as fun became life affirming know it's just what I am it's. What I do you're someone who is precise with his words- and you said this team saved me- this team did save me. This team Huff became a community became my friends. My life had turned dark.
Yeah. They were right and I knew that light was always gonna to be there two or three times a week in return. Deep kindred would chronicle the lady potter's recent state championships. First, flax: what's a stage and lady potter alarms, josie Becker jc, warum and Courtney Jones. When you guys were here playing, did you appreciate how cool a story this was at the time? I didn't think like anything of it now, looking back at it, it's actually really amazing that we've had this legendary writer come and capture all this special time that we've had in high school. What was it like getting interviewed by him? I was so nervous. I literally didn't really know he was that famous of a writer by the time I finally got interviewed, I was so excited. This is my chance. I finally don't get enough. I get to talk about myself. Remember what you said hell. No, I I think I blacked out. To be honest, that's okay!
kindred keeps all his notes, including quotes, and towards it into a commemorative book. He publishes most seasons of written more than three hundred gay and probably more than five hundred thousand words. I've read more about that girls, basketball team that I've written about anything, including ali Dave kindred going home in covering highschool foods is something I can do his former washington post colleagues, woodward and Bernstein. Uncovering corruption of small town zoning boards, morton players appreciate the expert journalism as well.
Was his awareness of the stubborn inequality between male and female athletes, as witnessed at this year's NC, a basketball tournament katie krupa, Caitlin Kelly, were called frakes and maggie hobson. Our current potters were your banners where's the big hanging banner that you get when you win a state title. If the boys had won a state title everywhere, a town with literally celebrate for weeks, you guys all read his write up. Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely
a lot of texts from my grandparents and relatives, and it's always I read dave's article heard you had a good game or heard it was a physical game or whatever. I think it's just it's so special that someone that is so good at what he does wants to be here and write about us. He just kind of always there with us. He grows with us, especially the season. Why do you think he's doing this? I think it's just his passion, like basketball, is our passion. Man, I agree with rock, I think, is his passion. You know, I think he wants to be doing it for as long as he possibly can to come on. Calle she's right dave kindred now. Seventy nine knows that pitchers lose their fastball
basketball players lose a step boxers, not least ally, lose their crispness. The life cycle of the writer is more generous. Kindred recently finished a book that celebrated the life and mourn the death of his grandson Jared. When tiger woods was injured in a car accident last month, golf digest leaned on kindred for a column. Then there are his dispatches about the lady potters. I want to read you something we found that you wrote from the first game of this year was moving to us. We've lost so much that was so long familiar and the potters gave us a gift. They played a gay and he wrote the joy that high school athletes feel when every trip down the court is a trip toward possibility joy in these days, so long without joy, yeah. That's why I do it.
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