On this Mother's Day edition of "60 Minutes" Wisconsin’s rate of adolescent self- harm and attempted suicide increased by nearly 200% since 2019. Sharyn Alfonsi speaks with families who’ve been impacted, and with doctors and therapists trying to make child mental health care more accessible. In his first interview before his book about his time in the Trump administration is published, former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper speaks with Norah O’Donnell. They discuss previously unreported events from inside the Trump White House. In Russia, ballet has always been entwined with politics. When Russia invaded Ukraine, Russian artists opposed to the war were left with a choice: stay and be silent or voice their dissent and leave. Jon Wertheim speaks with the dancers making difficult decisions.
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Is great deals for everyone is. If so, is that even supposed to look after our dog walker guy, we almost forgot about that this doctor, based on the better reciprocate the critical say why now in a book, why didn't you speak out during the trump administration? It's very simple! If I spoke out at the time I would be fired. I had no confidence that anybody that came in
Army would not be a real trump loyalist and lord knows what would have happened. Then tonight, former defence secretary mark esper a lifelong republican on his tumultuous tenure during one of the most chaotic times in the nations history. Even before the pandemic, american kids have been dealing with a crisis, rising breeds
suicide, self harm, anxiety and depression. Your generation got hit with this in was supposed to be kind of a fun carefree time. What was lost? What did you guys lose during the pandemic? Myself yourself? Yeah august mere nova is a russian prima ballerina one of the world's leading dancers, but days after russia invaded ukraine, supernova pure wedded in step offer stage at the renowned bolshoi theatre with dramatic flourish. I was so ashamed of prussia and this is a troll. I'm not ashamed that I'm russian, but I am ashamed because of russia,
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or as a washington insider who spent his whole career?
are flying below the radar until he became president donald trump. Second, secretary of defence, a west point graduate in peace
trooper hesper spent ten years is a by the book army officer and when he left active duty he moves.
the revolving doors of think tank jobs, capitol hill and pentagon staff positions and defence lobbying in all turned out to be
camp for his assignment as defence secretary and a face off with MR tromp, whom he came to regard as a threat,
american democracy
begin tonight with the former defence secretaries thoughts,
on russia's war in ukraine overall
How would you grade president Biden and his administrations performance and
of ukraine, its mixed there
a shaky start? I would have never taken the military option off the table. For example, I dont understand the reluctance to provide the ukraine's with me
spider fighter jets right, but since then its picked up, I think we're now flowing more
supplies material in weapons in the ukraine. I think they ve done a good job
bringing the allies along, which is important if you have to act collectively- and you have to give some credit by the way to the congress, which I think you know
the few few issues that is unified congress has been this one support for ukraine and in some ways they led the administration.
it's good, to see now. Congress and executive branch acting together
reasonably allied to help the ukrainian people.
Tomorrow may night marks an important day on the russian calendar victory in world
Or to why, I think the conventional
right now seems to be that by may knife Putin is going to try and secured dumbass, which should be
paying the rest of the dun ask and low hans provinces if you will and declare them pretence
it is there any scenario where president Putin could
take those regions and then just declare victory. Absolutely absolutely
if I were a betting man today. I'd say that is what he will do: hill at least secure. They all of
claire that he's liberated the russian speaking peoples of that region and declare victory and that will be
another frozen conflict. Marcus
first time as secretary of defence began when he was overwhelmingly confirmed by the senate. Ninety two:
on July. Twenty third, two thousand nineteen, two days later on a phone call with
It is MR trump asked for a quote: a favour. While he was hold
of aid to ukraine, the call ultimately led to his impeachment. You had to keep pressing president
to release tuna. Fifty million dollars and aid. Ukraine, yes, and it would be
argument, after an argument not to say look, must present the end of the day congress of appropriated it. It's the it's the law. We have to do
esper writes in his new memoir called a sacred oath that the ukraine affair
an early source of tension between him and president trump that tension.
Would grow, as he told us.
met him at his alma mater west point, because it's important our country, it's important to the republic, the american people,
they understand what was going on in this very consequential period. The last year of the trump administration and to tell the story about things, we prevented really bad things, dangerous things that could have taken the country and in a dark
direction. What kind of terrible things did you prevent at various times during the certainly the last year, the ministries and your folks in the white house, or proposing to take military action against spanish whaler too, to strike iran at one point that somebody proposed. We blockade cuba, these ideas. What happened
It seemed every every few weeks something like this would come up. We'd have to swap em down whose we had this one guy
mostly me. I had good support from from general mark milly
Casper and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. General mark milly ran the army for over a year before finding themselves in charge
the pentagon, in order to deal with what he calls some of the
crazy ideas coming from the white house
spur and milly came up with a system. I come up with this idea. Actually mark million, I discuss it. What we call the four knows, the four things we had to prevent from happening between then and the election
and one was no strategic, retreats no unnecessary wars, no plan, politicization
military and no misuse the military and so ass. We went through the next five or six months that became the metric by which we would measure things
esper told us he had reason to be concerned, not just about
an unnecessary military conflict with an adversary, but with one of our key
his neighbors and largest trading partners. The president
Pulls me aside on the least couple occasions and suggests that maybe we have used us milton
shoot missiles in mexico should missiles.
Mexico for what he would say two to go after the cartels, and we would have this private discussions. I'd say, MR president, you not, I understand the mode
because he was very serious about dealing with drugs in amerika. I get
We all understand I had explained to him weak. We can't do that. It would be
international law law would be terrible for our neighbours to the south. It would you know
this in so many ways. What what do we do this? Instead, you politely push back on the idea.
Did president trump really say? No one
would know it was us yes, yes, I I he he said that and I I just thought was fanciful right because of course it would be us. I was reluctant to tell the story because I think I thought people won't believe this, that they'll think I'm just making it up and folks in
in in trumps orbit will dispute it, and then I was having dinner after the election and twenty twenty with a fellow cabinet member and
he said to me. He goes you know, remember that time when present trumps suggested, you shoot mess missiles into mexico, and I said to him you you heard
he goes all yeah. I couldn't believe it and I couldn't believe how
how will you managed and talked him down from that and at that moment
Do I gotta right the story because at least have one witness who will verify that this really did happen witnessed
esper story about mexico is true. Donald trump said in his
aiming to sixty minutes, no comment, esper says to fact check his book. He said
all or parts of his manuscript to more than two dozen current informer
worst, our officers, senior civilians from the pentagon and cabinet members. Sixty minutes
two six of them who said what they read was accurate,
during the late spring of twenty twenty. It was not a foreign crisis at the murder of joy
floyd in Minneapolis that esper calls a turning point,
in his time as secretary of defence on the night of
thirty first in washington, protest for racial justice.
are by rioters, who said parts of washington, ablaze and esper says enraged. President trump
at a meeting the next morning. Ass were told us, the commission
You're in chief was on the verge of ordering ten thousand active duty troops into the streets of the capital
most disturbing thing that the president said during that meeting on june. First, the present is rioting. It at the room
he's using a lot of you, no foul
We know you you all
the losers right and then he says to the vice president, my pants
the issues in the same language and look into pets. He called my pants athens lizard, you didn't, kill him
Luckily, but he was looking at him when he was saying it and it really caught my attention and I thought that we're at a different spot now he's going to finally give a direct order to deploy paratroopers in the
streets, washington, DC and unthinking with weapons and bayonets, and this would be horrible. What specifically, was
he suggesting that the? U s military should do to these protesters reaches can't you just shoot
just shoot them in the legs or something, and he suggested that we should
that we should bring in the troops and shoot the protesters the command.
and chief was
suggesting that the? U s military shoot protesters? Yes in
rates, a measure of our nations capital. That's right, shocking. We have seen in other countries a government used their military to shoot protesters. What kind of governments are those others are banana republics, writer
authoritarian regimes, we all remember tiananmen square right in china.
Regarding whether he suggested shooting protesters in his statement? Former president trump said this is a complete lie.
ten witnesses? Can back it up mark esper? Was we
and totally ineffective, and because of it I
to run the military. Aspartame
He wanted to avoid the president, invoking the insurrection act, which would have allowed MR trump to deploy active duty troops.
Instead esper says he helped mobilized
Thousand members of the national guard, whose mission include
responding to civil unrest and to placate MR trump s
rights? He also ordered part of the eighty second airborne up from fort bragg north carolina to a base joe,
outside washington. Had eating the? U S, part police used force to clear protesters from lafayette part and the cabinet was called back to the white house. The present a great success- and I say where we going and hid the ages, ignores and starts walking out the door and crossing across the
the law on heading out the gate and as we round the corner of the press, all over all the place, filming taking pictures and it it just dawned on me at that point time, tat we ve been duped, do how this has put this now political stunt right and an we. I allowed myself to be put in opposition and it only gets worse right. How does it get worse? Well, we end up in lafayette park up near the church and
where the president steps out of the crowd. If you will goes up, picks up the bible and holds it up for everybody to see, and I eventually get directed to come up and join him and up. I made that mistake to to kind of be there. In the first
in the joint within twenty four hours, esper says he send out a message to employees of the department of defense, reminding them they must remain a political and protect freedom of speech. Then he decided that wasn't enough the republic that wobbly that's what prompted me to decided to go before the podium at the pentagon
on June third and say what I said: the option to use active duty forces in law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in them
urgent and dire
situations. We are not in
those situations. Now I do not support invoking the insurrection act right after that,
esper was summoned to the white house. He said
He was sure, Donald trump wood, fire him. Why did you think you would fire you, because I publicly rebuke
and and what I would learn later is at the white house ass. He thought I took away his authority to invoke the insurrection that he did not believe tat. He had the authority
to impose so politically, you might have, I suppose, at a political level. I did, but he still had that authority what he asked
Who was, I wasn't, gonna go along with them. Esper belize, president
didn't fire him at the time because it may have heard mister.
My chances for reelection, does esper, also
Thus he did not vote for either Joe Biden or donald trump
mailed in a ballot for another candidate, your lifelong republican, but in this book you detail,
Are you subverted many of the president's wishes.
People will say you were disloyal. I never disobeyed
Direct or from the present united states, I was fortunate that he often didn't give direct orders, but otherwise I did what I thought was best for the nation and for us
charity and completely within the authority granted to me under the law. Critical say why now in a book, why didn't you speak out during the trump administration? It's very simple. If I spoke out at the time, I would be fired number one and secondly, I had no confidence at anybody. Came in behind me. What
be a real trump loyalist and lord knows what would have happened then
spur says six days after the election, he and his staff could hardly
believe they were still at the pentagon. Then he got word that the president plan to fire him. The phone rang and donald trump, cheapest
f. Mark meadows was on the line you right in the book. He says the president's not happy
with you. He feels you haven't supported him enough. He added you aren't
fish, italy, loyal and then you replied. I say you know that's his prerogative to farming, but I say my oath listed the constitution not to him.
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Urgent general has called it an urgent public health crisis, a devastating decline in the mental health of kids across the country. According to the cdc, the rates of suicide, self harm, anxiety and oppression are up among adolescents. A trend that began before the pandemic tonight will take you to know. Walkie was constant, a community trying to help its kids navigate. A mental health crisis was constant. Has the fifth ties increase of adolescence self harm and attempted suicide in the country
with rates nearly doubling since, before the pandemic and emergency room, children's hospital in Milwaukee doctors like michelle,
get or seeing more kid desperate for mental health help. We unfortunately see a lot of kids who have
attempted suicide. That is something that we see I'd say at least once a shift to shift
Oh yes, yes, unfortunately, doktor picking
has worked in the EU are for nine years. Is there any group? That's not being impacted, know we're saying at all kids
You know who come from very well off families, kids, don't kids, who are suburban. Kids were urban kids, whirl
were seen in all the surgeon,
and needing help for their kids has revealed a deficit of people and places to treat them across
country the average wage time to get an appointment with a therapist is forty days in four children. It's often longer
What does it say to you that the place they have to come of the emergency room that there's something wrong with her
system. The emergency room should not be the place to go and gets in acute mental health care when you're in
crisis we are now
nice com.
fireman's, but their desperate yeah, but we were there and we see everybody, but I
If there were more places that kids could go to get the help that they need. We just have a couple of questions for you to answer
to manage the mental health crisis and heavy caseload doktor picket entered.
An ipad with a series of questions
that screen the mental health of every child too.
An older comes to the e r. For any reason, among the question
Have you been having thoughts about killing yourself and have you thought your fan
It would be better off if you were dead, harsh questions that can be
lifesavers to the kids.
who answer them. We ve had forecast that I know of personally that came in for a completely
and related problem, so a broken arm or in iraq or whatever it was actually were.
acutely suicidal to a point where we needed to transfer them too impatient of facility a right to the end there. So where catching hens word in very much crisis like that, but where else
catching the cancer chess need help and dont know what to do
haven't really talked about this. According
the cdc hospital of me
since data a shows? The number of teenage girls who have been suicidal has increased fifty
said nationwide since twenty nineteen, I thought it was norm
so few men, as was one of them,
crying every night, not knowing
what's going on, and I felt so alone Sophia
your friend: nina use were an eighth grade, looking forward a high school when Cobain turn their worlds upside down. I've always been a
super smart kid and I've always had really good grades and then
as soon as the pandemic hit. I I failed a class when I was virtual
I had no motivation to do anything I would just sit.
in my room, never leave and it was like,
these signs of depression? My mental health got really bad, especially my on eating disorder. I was based
glee, home alone all day, my herons, while they notice that I was in eating it would refuse to
so then they ended up taking me to the hospital Sophia had to stay in the house.
For two weeks before a bed opened up at a psychiatric facility. You
generation lake got hit with us in was supposed to be the fun carefree. Time was lost. What
They lose during the pandemic. Myself yourself
I would definitely say there
pieces and myself that I we're dead
we lost. I lost friends because.
We wouldn't see each other.
Couldn't go to our first home coming. I couldn't
an eighth grade, graduation and that doesn't sound
that big of a deal on a big deal when you're in eighth grade yeah, I feel like if the pandemic haddan
happened at all.
Out of my leg,
sadness and like mental problem,
It would not be as bad as they are.
It just made everything worse. Are we in crisis
right now: we are, we are in crisis mode and it's scary, tammy MC clure has worked as a child there.
Throughout wisconsin for the last twenty five years? I think there was a hope that you now we're factions.
The cancer are able see their friends again and play sports that this would all go away. Has it no? No
I notice that the weightless are longer kids are struggling with more anxiety, more depression. So
you were in a mental health crisis. Prior to the pandemic,
did the pandemic accelerated. I believe so we're coming out of the pandemic by
kids have still lost two years to you.
Of socialization two years of education to years of their
old kind of being shaken up so
we get corner unquote back to normal
think kids are struggling even
The pandemics over this crisis
single. We over.
Cdc number show that, even before the pandemic, the number
adolescent, saying they felt persistently sad or hopeless was up forty percent since two thousand and nine there are lots of theories on why social media
chris screen time and isolation, but the research isn't definitive. This pass Marge tammy mc clure was tapped by children's hospital to run an urgent care, walking clinic
specifically open to treat kids mental health area, and we are here to get some open seven days a week.
In three to nine? Thirty is one of the first clinics of it's kind in the country. Now, what's going to work for you and what's going to work for you, so when they come to our clinic, we assess them and we provide them with a theory.
recession. So we give them some interventions. We give them like a play out and an action plan. The plans are
cater to each child situation, actionable things, families
kids can do while they look for a doktor or facility to make room for doubt
How long have the weightless spin to get help normally or put on your schedule than appointment within a few
months and months now, yeah and then, if you want a child psychiatrist that
you're looking at lake months to a year. How important is it to get them help
when they need it immediately. As days go on that
terms, get worse. If you have a depressed child, you know maybe
it out where they were feeling depressed and then, as the days goes on their suicidal
It really, you really do need to get that help and that support right away. Eleven year old, Austin bringer desperately needed that support during the pandemic. He's a fifth grader at
developed elementary school in Milwaukee how old, where even the pandemic it yeah, I was not
I was still going to school, but then I kept hearing on the news in the car just like pandemic stay put quarantine. Fourteen days, when they first said hey, you don't have to go to school. What was your reaction at that moment.
Heaven, but then I realized it's the complete opposite because, like
and of school age. Kids Austin was forced into remote learning for more than a year and disconnected from friends, because, like this shut it like that,
I way you can see. People is through, like phones,.
Or your family that you live with.
that isolation took a toll on Austin who was already struggling with news that his parents were getting a divorce, and that's when I think everything
just started to magnify he now he was always asking to see his friends. We couldn't- and I remember there is one moment that he was just on the floor: late kicking and
Jane Eyre just but couldn't describe why he was upset unable to vent with fresh,
and without access to impersonal person, therapy
Melissa says his world began, closing in on him fellow he was interactive,
ass, an just kind of withdrawing into himself and spending a lot of time by himself and I went
took him in and he said, mama I'm having suicidal thoughts and he was held. He was nine then,
like. I was kind of lake. I I didn't know it too.
I didn't know what to do. I imagine
of going through all these things, like jumping from a building and like taking a knife from my kitchen
and I think my life it was. It was over fifty of them that distance
in my mind, I don't really know foods from all like this anti socialist, I love
will. It also felt like we did worse
a lot of the owing fell, like my parents didn't need me any more
Just surely hard to think about that, but desperate melissa
austin pediatrician, who preferred her to outpatient therapists and impatient psychiatric programmes. Only too
he told there were long waiting lists and no beds
This stuff is racing through my head and then for them
disable, there's no beds right now and, unlike
how am I going to keep him safe enough
to try and keep kids safe wisconsin.
is trying another approach approach, that's being adopted in other parts of the country. Thirteen pediatric clinics across southeastern wisconsin have incorporated full time therapists inside Iraq.
since offering mental health screenings and treatment as part of routine care? Okay. So, let's start with our assessment
doktor brilliant, never was the first pediatrician in Milwaukee to create a therapists office inside her office, you're saying where here together, we're in all work on this together, not weakened
If you go see somebody else zactly in still having a therapist in our clinic to really does have died. Beata team together discuss that patient and found me together. Two pounds ideas off of each other, because we both know them so well, is so much better for peace,
care, doktor numerous clinic treatin underserved community, where families typically struggle to get mental health. Help
airports have treated more than five hundred kids here since the pandemic started. I think, as
pediatricians in primary care providers like we can know.
Gorgeous solely say in mental health providers.
Are the only ones that are we taking care of our patients and rigorous and mental house like this, is now something
I need to be joint. You astern brings
pediatrician now has a therapist in her office to their family was fortunate to five regular outpatient therapy for his depression. How do you feel now.
Oh, it's much
better than before everything's going up in my life and knowing that
like I'm friends with everyone class on building better so
life, it's fun
just know: there's others that, like this
things as highly us. It is easy thing to talk about other stuff
Why did you agree to tell us how you and because the world, each,
It leads no mental house and stuff like that needs to be treated or bad stuff could happen.
if you're, going through that by yourself trying
contact someone. You know where your friend your family and talk about it.
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centrally important to russian society and to russian image? Dancer slicing through the air and challenging laws of physics and gravity represents civility and grace, but after february, twenty? Fourth, when russian military troops invaded ukraine, russian valley troops had their western tourists cancel and just last week, Moscow's bolshoi theatre abruptly cancelled shows
directors, critical of putin's military campaign, and so it is the brutal war plays out on the most delicate affronts, leaving ballet in exile.
when ballet dancers or described, is god's athletes. Well, you could offer up august mere nova as supporting evidence. She treads
air coming in on little cat feet, she's a russian prima ballerina, one of the world's leading dancers, but
he's after russia invaded ukraine, smear nova, pure wedded and stepped offer stage at the renowned bolshoi theatre with dramatic flourish. She took to social media to express our outrage
and then fled the country. The modern day version of maria for boorish knockoff defecting. When you sit down to write that social media post
what did you want to communicate? What did you want to say? I just couldn't keep it inside
I was so ashamed of russia, and this is the true I'm not ashamed the time russian, but I am ashamed because of russian started this section
read what you wrote. You said you were against this war with every fibre of your being, but I now feel
but a line has been drawn that separates the before. In the after its how I felt trying to force four february.
This was the lion, because it's all change all changed the report
of russian russians people even
you're, not a soldier, he owned just russian it. So it's still
Make a shadow on you being russian being latian, it's really painful. Predictably smear lovers posed to advise
She was, after all, a leading light in Moscow's bolshoi, ballet.
from the russian word for big bolshoi is the world's largest ballet company and the most prestigious. The theatre is physically close to the kremlin, a short walk away and also aligned inextricably with the russian government tsars loved the bolshoi for decades to come
Its leaders use the bolshoi theatre for political stagecraft, holding rallies in giving national addresses there. This has something to say
brains, russia, every important guess he would visit
the soviet union. Would be invited to the ball should see the performance and never sir, a pride of a fresh at any time, alexei red muskie, trained at the bourgeois school and was for a time its artistic director. He was born in russia, but grew up in key where his parents still live.
She should be done about at the time of the invasion he was in russia, choreographing to ballets. He left the country immediately.
willing to continue working in a world so tied to the Putin regime. As I was goin,
tax suit of airports. I felt this too caught sent castles falling apart.
My back. Does the same? Castles were the work. The work
dying? Yes, yes, yes, it was an agony. I was very
today and, of course, the catastrophic day for ukraine, indiscriminate bombings and missile strikes rain
down upon the country, crushing lives and dreams, not least those of an assent.
and ballerina from keys, paulina, Chebec age. Seventeen you wanted to be a ballerina for years and years. What was it like when suddenly you couldn't can go to school,
dance. I was shocked and I, like all my got and first about one I'm thinkin. It
to my boy and shoes in college. It was my other herself. You left your point.
school. I left everything. Actually, war didn't stop her in her footsteps. She resumed dancing, it
using whatever she could as a bar. But after a few days, her parents, both former dancers, focused on getting paulina out, they called on a famously well connected figure in the tight knit ballet community new jersey based louis
leo you're, getting this barrage of emails from from parents and from dancers. What are they
telling you. What are they ask you
Please help there was get us out of here. They
willing to give up everything else, but they have to dance and the parents were you know it doesn't matter? What would do they have to dance
there there lifeline others is it they just day they could not. Imagine
Then, in the nineteen nineties she found it: youth, america, grand prix, a ballet competition and scholarship programme, pairing aspiring dancers with ballet schools worldwide. Well, not they want to see her full year, but you have to call for the summer. First now in a humanitarian
crisis. She in the international ballet community scramble to action, sadly have kept her vast network reload
hating more than a hundred young ukrainian dancers, two new schools and host families. We give each child a number just to move faster and that we say ok number. Fifty five is like just get a spot in
it's ok, number fifty four just get a spot in Dresden cross it also across it off the list when a slot open for polina? She stuffed leotard and tutus into a suitcase
along with a bottle of her moms per few a reminder of home, and then she headed two keys train station
My parents are in a window of train. They said goodbye.
I view you, everything will be fine and I was crying
and we will all crime. I was thinking
We always need to take my suitcase and go back to my family, because my heart was broke into really had to overcome that. What what? What made you knock? It
the train because it's open door for me. It's like door for my dream.
Seventeen year old, that she is paulina documented, the lonely odyssey on Tik tok trains and buses, five days in twelve hundred miles keys to le vive poland to berlin. Finally, to Amsterdam, where she lives,
at the dutch national ballet academy, one of the leading schools in the world when you got to the new school and started dancing again, have that feel,
Oh, I was very happy. Yes, I
my mind change, because I would think
involved, my parents, it all the time for my family, for my sister Anne
I go to the valley class, the this world change. For me, a Heaven
the work of of bali. Her adjustment was made easier when she found other ukrainian dance students who, thanks to lorenzo, sadly of also found safe,
arbour in amsterdam, paulina fell into a routine immediately on the cost of a professional career she prepared for final exams. She was jittery beforehand. She emerged. Relieved, triumphant and eager to report back to mom
What did you tell her that I was nervous when I start
everything right. If the war has made refugees out of some ukrainian dancers, it's made soldiers out of others. When the war began, alexey putty pumpkin a principle dancer with ukraine's national ballet turned in his types for milk,
eerie fatigues here he is in downtown levine last week, having just returned from duty as a medic. What was your lifelike?
or the war before war. I must I preparing new premier in bali ukrainian barely know
real normal life.
Just one moment it's like changes, but I need
do something I can suggest at home in sheep
in the watch tv, how my friends
die and everyone
do something
have you seen these last few months,
day, it's really scared, Z,
rushed racine, destroyed houses.
Of civilians. People
browsers son fathers, sisters well,
says he shaken by what he seen unfold on the battlefield he's also appalled by a war taking place on another front
the bolshoi, the show? Now it's toxic feature. Nobody
to what was you? You said toxic toxic? Yes in russia, art its politics.
the russian government to use use it
barely it's like weapon. The weapon was deployed at the bolshoi as recently as last month when the theatre revived production of spartacus in support of the russian military invasion
unnerving many in the dance world, including
time ahead of the dutch national ballet ted branson. Well,
It was a very clear statement that we have to
what our boys, who are on a military operation.
to save ukraine from the fascist, which is a totally ridiculous concept of
This allegory spartacus about the slave revolt is somehow
and cooperate by the acting president superpower. Absolutely no is now it's not it's not for nothing that this became one of the signature balance of the soviet
and that of the soviet time the abroad. The ballet community has staged, benefit concert to raise funds for ukraine, while Russia's famed companies, the bolshoi and ST petersburg's marine sky, have had their touring dates
I think you need to be more. Exquisite was with the iron curtain, down artists have to pick aside. Alexei Alexei, ratmansky left me.
scowl for american valley theatre in new york, where he is artist in residence in where we spoke with him remotely last week, sounds like you, you don't buy this idea that look individuals should bear the responsibility for for the acts of the state
that our artist who just be artists now I dont think that artists are separate from policies
besides: it's not for maize, le politics about humanity. It's about response.
to war crimes, responses
the crimes of your government of your president. It just made things clear which thanks I important and which aren't.
and you make a choice. You decide where you want, should belong for august, mere nova. That choice came together in a matter of days after she condemn the war. She left russia and landed on her feet at the dutch, national opera and amsterdam. Just around the corner from paulina school. It must have been incredibly difficult to leave the bolshoi if you make a choice if ever consequences, but
our talks. I had to leave everything like my home. I say it on my report on my partners. My parents ceased to brother everything, but they don't have regrets. You'll regret
because of this. That can be honest with myself.
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