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10/30/2022: Election Deniers, Impenetrable Forest, David Sedaris

2022-10-30

On this edition of “60 Minutes,” no state has been more deeply divided by former President Trump’s election-denying claims than Arizona. Scott Pelley travels to the state and speaks with top Republican state officials about what the party’s divide could mean for 2022 and beyond. Since 2009, American scientists have discovered more than 900 new viruses. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. is sending scientists to disease hotspots. Bill Whitaker joins them in Uganda. It’s difficult to achieve literary stardom in the modern era, but David Sedaris has managed to do it. Sedaris speaks with Jon Wertheim about his process and, tomorrow.

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you macartney? We ve actually had indictments and people that applied guilty tobacco trafficking, human downloads were involved. I nor to top man it's for what for four thousand does matter. It wasn't the presidential election. It was your primary those man. It's a Second, the system, Donald trump one, I will fight america. First again tonight story of mega election deniers running for office and our relationship with the facts- what's inside africa's impenetrable forest, found rugged terrain, mountain guerrillas and keys full that's all of which contain clues for this team of virus hunters search
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Dot com or get the record to nap, that are a k- you t an racket in dark com. This is that take out with major Gareth roy copper is the democratic governor of north carolina president fight, and should he run for reelection. While I expect him to had a conversation within just a couple of days ago, I support him, he's been and half the presidency these to make that decision, but if he makes the decision, yes, I'm for him. One hundred for more from this week's conversation follow that take out with major garrett on apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. It's the vote that holds america together, belief that, with a bow, What voices are heard? Disputes are addressed in there's always another chance countries. Now this belief tend to be in bondage or war election day, coming, but across amerika belief is under attack.
politicians who say that twenty twenty election was stolen are running for governor in nineteen states. Attorney general and ten and twelve states election deniers are running for secretary of state, which would give them power over elections. After two years of investigations and audits, no fraud or error has been found in any state. That would change their twenty twenty outcome, but in twenty twenty two spreading doubt been key to an endorsement from donald trump, no stay has been more deeply riven by this then arizona where a split in the geo p has republic, on opposite sides of a grand canyon. On one side of the arizona chasm stands rusty. Bowers a lifelong republican and artist who become in arizona speaker of the house bow
told us he was disappointed when Joe Biden one so when didn't tromp ban, Rudy giuliani called after the election. He was listening. First rudy dirty said well, there's been a lot of fraud all across country and in arizona and then he listed off large numbers in categories that would be illegal dead. People stolen ballots power, says giuliani, wanted him to hold a vote to revoke widens electors and eyes. But really I want the proof you gonna give me the proof. And he said yes so giuliani and co council jenna Ellis flew out to meet bowers. You left them with rudy giuliani thinking. What that I wasn't happy. I said get time out, Mr Giuliani, you said you were going to bring me some proof. Names
at cetera of all these people. Did you bring the proof? We looked at jenna Ellis and he said: do we have the proof- and she said yes, we do do you have it with? You know not where his wife, it might be back at the hotel room and I said I asked you for proof- you said You'D- bring it you're, not bring it you're asking me to break my oath and make up something to pool electors and and replaced electoral, which has never been done in the history of the united states and I'm gonna. Try that on my state, without bowers giuliani found an ally willing to call the vote criminal errors. The state representative marked fiction. it's exceedingly hard for me to place a label on what we've heard other than racketeers good old fashion ma stir racketeering, we're caught between the desire for weeks.
after MR trumps defeat fishing venturesome held in unofficial, hearing featuring giuliani and difficult stability that was hatched by crooked leaders of the democratic party a day allegations without credible evidence ended with this when Satan wants to extinguish the light. He will stop at nothing. So on your guard, the former of god, and be prepared to fight more attention fought and The sixty five year old, former police officer, is the rub like a nominee for arizona, secretary of state, which would give him already over elections, ladies and gentlemen. We know it and they know it. Donald trump, one but mark burner, which does not know it
he's arizona, republican attorney general, whose investigated for two years and has a word for claims of fraud horse but it is most of its horse and I've been trying to scrape scrape, I my shoes for the last year bernard. It's supported trump, who called him, with advice because All you gotta do the same the elections fraudulent and you will be a superstar, you mean less popular guy in america, I told myself, MR president, become a tree general to be a star I brought my star with me. And I don't need any body weathers- the president or any other person validate what I'm doing and why do it? What he's doing is in indictments in every twenty twenty vote. Fraud case that he can back with evidence altogether to date from general election arizona has indicted twelve defendants,
cases involving a total of twelve ballots. Twelve state. Why Biden, one arizona by ten thousand there's no one in this country. The wanted to find evidence are far more than I do, but thought. It was important to. Semantically going through and say now. This is the facts. This is the evidence. Everyone entitled lower opinions, but when you're in We're prosecutor when you're the actual government there's a highly obligation. You can afford to be sloppy. In addition to burn a vicious investigations in twenty thirty one. The report lincoln lead state senate audited Phoenix is maricopa county homes sixty per cent of the state vote. The audit was done by a company that had never audited and election. The odd hand recount confirmed Joe Biden one, but report also raised questions about discrepancies. It found those questions were asked.
heard online in detail by maricopa county still. Why spread. Fraud is more. finland's charge when you steal something not really a worm. That's a flawed that was in washington the day before the attack on the capital, which finch describes this way, this tired, J, six crap was manufactured To create a narrative, but there was an assault on the capital. Does he, to the marxist ideology of. How do you go to one party rule today? pension is running neck and neck with his democratic opponent. Adrian fondness who help please? The twenty twenty election in maricopa county or we're. Are too divided away from each other based on lies and conspiracies
we as election administrators across arizona, have to do a better job, showing folks that the system is quite good. I'd like to see a world where it's easy to vote but hard to cheat talking. We asked ventrem for credible proof of fraud. He raised not evidence, but those questions from the state senate audit. Next, she told us about a mysterious post election email, which he thought you're in a rally or who sent an email, not just in the oj. They do everything the legislator saying, there's thirty, four thirty, five thousand fictitious voters. Certain system will never find What we believe in the email, finch from speaks of a Brian watson, said democrats added. guess: votes electronically in payment county, the right had no evidence ass not to be contacted
and closed his email account. Why would you give this any credence? again. It's an open question I want to know. Was there a possibility that this happened. Now we ve now proven that it happens. How should we ve got to precincts that show over one hundred percent of the people registered to vote in that precinct voted an undeniable fact, but it is I able bypassing the county, which no precinct had more votes than voters and revenge. Hymns frequent points concerns a pair of indictments. We have for you, apple. New county battle, harvesting and votes. May we ve got people were indicted for the very thing that we're talking about right now, who pled guilty and, frankly, Those boats altered the outcome of humor county Uma county. We ve actually had indictments and people that applied guilty tobacco trafficking, human
ballots were involved I don't know how to top man. It's for gay with its four thousand does matter, it wasn't the presidential election. It was a primary, doesn't matter, it's a defect in the system, a minuscule defect to win, in human county pleaded guilty to collecting for ballots and dropping them in a ballot box. It's against state law to deposit ballot that isn't yours or your family's its form how much in a primary in that instance, in that and you have a bigger one, well we've got. Information has been turned over to the attorney general's office, and you say that there was nothing there. Okay, then I might have to live with that, but do I know for a fact that there were other ballot trafficking operations around the country and some in arizona guy do name one. You may count
twenty five thousand balance. What happened same fingerprints on those balance for five individuals so where that go, where's that evidence No, it's been turned over to the attorney general's office. I noted the fear fbi field office actually did the prince, that's false. Bring to the fbi? You may count told us that no one in law enforcement fingerprinted, twenty five thousand ballots venture. Often says that evidence is with attorney general burner which implying that, think big is coming in He is a mountain of evidence it sitting in his office but burn They told us his investigation is essentially over. We is ask heaters, dealing facts in evidence and our model the clowns throw stuff against the wants you. It sticks, clowns clowns. I say that I think that there were a lot of clouds out there, that these
ah what they wanted to see: simon garfunkel line than a man. Here's what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. There is a lot going on. It's going on in top arizona races where the republican for governor is denied we had a fraudulent elections, corrupt election and we have an illegitimate president sitting in the white house. It's like a giant Chris in some ways a griffin Wendell is what you're saying yes all of these accusations. The case in yuma scaremongering Brian watchin, email scare mongering. You call old arizona that epicenter of fraud scare mongering it the fraud that is breaking people's faith in our elections. It's people like you, so you say:
but when we look at the violations of state statute this, The epicenter of the problem nation wide one huh Ninety election deniers are run for the: u s, house and fourteen for the: u s: Senate. According to the brookings institution but of its mark burn of each one his primary to a denier, and so did rusty bowers, which may come as a relief. Don't come over, don't come over post election trumps supporters and conspiracies spinners laid so age to bowers home up to three times a week, devour that had a file. He had defend them off. A man the pistol. it's in their own armored car and at the state, can on january six, twenty twenty one. They can With rifles and gaiety
in arizona when believe in the vote eroded. This is what filled the void has republican party, the tube known all your life than hijacked. it's a large group of them. That is doing the hijacking. I just I think it's a majority, its activities as a party and its legitimacy in public discourse is grossly undermined by how they've acted in this state. the thing with secrets he just might to everybody. His parents vanish the cars go off the road and things happen. What happened to the holders is not making any sense and it's taking weirder and weirder turns nobody saw this coming, follow and listen to that. Forty eight hours podcast on apple podcasts, amazon, music or wherever you get your podcasts
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the threat of spillover, has never been higher as urban populations grow and come into contact with wild animals and their viruses. Since two thousand and nine american scientists have discovered more than nine hundred, new viruses. Now the? U S, government is doubling down since virus hunters to global hotspots, defined the next Thirdly, virus before it finds us, we join A team from the university of california davis- and there gandhian partners, in the rugged impenetrable forest on the search for pathogen exe, we landed in cohesion, a speck of a town in south west uganda, as we headed off to the impenetrable farmers. We soon saw how it got. It's me, it's so thick with trees, fines and routes that you gone.
Call the police of darkness as our four by force, bumped and swerved along deeply rooted tracks. We pass t farmers luggers village all living on the edge of the forest, where the risk of infectious disease spilling over from animals is highest wildly at the di christine johnson handicapped, the stakes, How would you read the odds of another pandemic? I would say. Another pandemic is guaranteed There is not a matter of if, but when. That's why we're so committed to preparation. Johnson leads the use, ie Davis tee and has been hunting viruses around the globe. For decades, we were headed to an abandoned mine shaft. To look for bats. John and told us bats are prime suspects for school. Harbor, more viruses lethal to humans in any other mammal new
species, and new viruses are still being discovered like a really daunting task for you to find passage x before it finds us it's definitely. if a ball but at last absolutely it's all here. Right now, right, it's not like were expire in outer space olive these viruses in the end and all of the wildlife here on our planet, the beds, start flying at dusk. We waited, as you see, Davis team and their ugandan partners hung fine mesh net across the entrance of the cave. we were masks and goggles to protect ourselves against any early risers. Bernard Zebedee, seventy one of uganda's top wildlife. There was told us this area used to be all forest now, village had planted a cornfield right up to the mouth of the batcave
creasy the risk of spilled, as If, on too, we were women carrying water cut through the corn field. School children ran home, the transferred between bats in humans, much more likely when you ve got people living. So exactly depopulation is above moved into areas they never played for that shrinkage of the buffer, everyday green people and what are they, become so narrow. So increases. The contact we're talking about people who now living law right on the edge actually, the impenetrable. Far exactly governed, gunnar gone people for moving some of these idiotically the have he go back, are known to carry corona viruses, the sea virus family that spawned proved nineteen
as well as lethal Ebola viruses, or so we had to dress head to toe in protective give once the hazmat was on. We added two sets of gloves a mass and a face shield to guard against I in guano and other toxins again lied, must assume everything contaminant exactly the infinity for farmers was soon pitch black and we had only the light from our head lapse to guide us soon. They trapped, a large egyptian fruit, bad wildlife, denard zebedee gently disentangled it and put it in a fabric. Sack We followed him back to the makeshift lab flowing in the dark, the bat sex quiver in the ghostly light it felt like we were on the set of a sigh five is a bigger up. Close the bats did little to dispel their fearsome reputations.
We watched as the fruit that grew agitated trying to escape Scientists held its nose to a test tube filled with a mild anesthetic. Finally, the bat succumbed epidemiological christine Johnson, told us the bat would be swab for a suite of viruses. Does this hurt the bad at all? Now it doesn't hurt the body we get the right size vibe. we're just an earl simple, maybe a little uncomfortable the its wings were examined for parasites and takes that might also have pathogens. all the samples would be sent to a lab for dna sequencing. John and told us virus's genetic code can help identify which might cross to humans. After the tests were done, the bats were released, groggy but unharmed.
The next day we join terrorist, smiley, evans, a you see, Davis, epidemiologist and wildlife vet. We were looking for monkeys and bamboo like bats pray Its carry many viruses that have left to people. Miley Evans told us catching an outbreak early at the point of spill over is vital. containing it sounded. Is no shortage of viruses that can enjoy. If humans had come out in forest, there are probably more pathogens. We don't know about than ones that we do know about. We need to gather more information and more intelligence about what may be out there and aims spell over before it does so they come right down to the hospital, the back button bright again. Of. We met her at the windy community. Hospital on the edge of the forest is really something it's so close. We saw baboons casually strolling on the hospital grounds sometime
getting into patients room whenever you're, creating a new opportunity for humans to come in contact with while they population. So they were never in contact with before your creating a brand new waiting. So as human populations grow nets us into areas We ve never been before exactly pudding, into contact with animals. We ve never been in contact with before exactly to find out what viruses the baboons were carrying. Smiley evans pioneered a simple but groundbreaking method to collect saliva samples, the stealth banana. I do a string. The bananas, tossed the curious baboons but hidden inside, is an oral swap coded in something sweet that the baboons love to true smiley evans and ugandan wildlife that combat nelson had prepared the bananas earlier in the day. So we have
tried, strawberry jam, we have tried mango jews, have shown they the one more than the other. The differences that sometimes they'll chew on that swab for longer periods of time, with a different, attractive versus another, and that's what we really want it bubble gum for primates when the snow it is gone. The baboons throw the swab away, leaving behind plenty of saliva that can be decoded for viruses, but family, politics can sometimes get in the way meet the big daddy, vis troop he wasn't to let any one else get even a mouthful. Mom the baby's out of the way until finally, the coast was clear: by then all that was left were soggy leftovers. Wildlife mukamba nelson told us. It was worth a week. It was real. see babies venture this could so you got some samples from the baby's yesterday, yeah
That's unusual to very unusual, so what do you get from the baby's that don't get from the adults. You never know I made but your disease in this age bracket. We cannot be found in the juvenile or the females. Six edge or that plays a role in disease. I intelligence disease intelligence that also includes training villagers to be on the lookout for any unusual fevers or flew like symptoms science, This can then match human illnesses to the animal viruses they found in the same area smiley evans told us. It was poor pieces of a puzzle together all the sample are tested in the same way for the same pathogens. So the goal is that for sampling at the scene, time in the same area. We can start to connect the dots and understand when there has been transmission of a particular virus. One of the most closely monitored. Species in the impenetrable forests are its
Star residents, the endangered mountain guerrilla near half the world's remaining guerrillas are here hundred fifty nine had last count always on the move. So we set off to find one ridge lead to another. Each deeper than the last the fire. was so dense? There was no sunlight and no guerrillas wildlife that bernard Zebedee assured us. We were on the right path and seeing signs of an early surrender have things, I'm already our poor breezed along unfazed we not so much then hours after trekking sudden, there they were. We spotted a mother first high in the trees gorging on twigs soon we were surrounded by all nineteen members of an extended family include
a massive silver back and another mother cradling her infant. We put on our masks not to protect ourselves, but to protect who is from any infection we might be. Carry me bond is with guerrilla doctors and international conservation group. She told How they identify each guerrilla, just humans, where we each have our own unique fingerprint that helps us the idea, viable as an individual guerrillas have unique, knows prints a nose print and that's what allows us to identify those individuals, and so go through and we make sure we get each individual on the group that we can do a visual assessment looking for signs of illness or injury, and wildlife said bernard. Seventy told us. Guerrillas are susceptible to many of the same pathogens that we are in it can be an early harbinger of disease,
guerrillas are monitored daily for any warning signs when you're sick. Emily re runny knows cosmo, sneezing, moving, I don't want it a gorilla is lying down. Seventy told us they'll assess if he's resting or is something else is preventing him from moving. We spend one young male on his own, but Amy bond, told us. He was likely suffering from a problem of a different sort. You can also sometimes tell which fell back is dominated by the number of formats and held him, so this poorgrass it over here is just outrages. Our second choice, aside from a case of wounded male pride guerrilla, actors. Amy bond, told us. This family appeared be thriving, but there are few sure, isn't guarantee there's isn't neither is ours. Bond hold us as spill over threats grow. It's impossible
separate human health from the health of the natural world As you see, Davis scientists continue their work. The search pathogen x is a search for what threatens the animals of the impenetrable forest as much as it threatens us. The best stories happened to those who can tell them it's a fundamental rule of writing, maybe of life, and for decades now David said, Aramis has taken his offbeat experiences and unfiltered observations and turn them into rollicking essays which he not only writes masterfully but then performs, as he threads the globe on tour. It's made him among the world's best selling authors. It's made him rich enough to buy a picasso. It's made him a humorist on the order of mark twain. If mark twain had been discovered after writing about his job as a department store
christmas, elf! I'm in show business and I I of the show business life. I do it's laziest for show business. There is, but yeah think of it in show business. I do writers, to be a solitary introverted tribe, show business the readings appearances book, signings often marked the worst part of the job, not so David, sir Darras I thank you so much. He turns his tours into performances. Drawing big crowds to hear him hold forth on topics petty in profound and reliably. Funding are that's what makes me unworthy of a biography, not just that I'm doll and have never been unfaithful, but that all zone out and think
dumbledore or a tv show. I like called thousand pound sisters, and it's not just in front of the urban hipster crown when we first met up with the dearest, be happened to be headed to skagway alaska population. Eleven hundred for a show, with the local eagle lodge back some let for coming tonight that followed by a line to experience. That's a darien satire one on one, that's crazy! I did say your life. He loves the interactions days for hours, but dearest also get something practical out of this potential material one time I said to this woman was ass time it touched. The monkey and she said smell it on me and she would It's for a centre in boston trains, monkeys to act, is helpers fur pair
I know it's like: I had no idea none whatsoever and then she vited, media center and so on in the center and monkeys all over me, so Heiresses ability to find a story anywhere in everywhere has helped make him a runaway success with more a dozen books and counting nearly every one, a best seller, thirteen million copies sold. Why do you think How many people were laid your work, every night. I'm on stage, and I look out, I see people and I want to say why are you here? Why are you here? Yeah descend thinking like surely had stuff to do at home thing it? I'm nobody body, german Maybe what happens in the theatre is just a celebration of our shared ordinary nurse, iders are thieves poaching, a bit one person's life and stitching it to part of another's he's so
matter: traces, the human experience rest visits to the doctor goals in the tac line and, of course, the comet in complexities of family. Well, I'm a hundred years old, my father, tells us can be Ninety eight amy correction include in his sister Amy sedateness sixty may. Whenever we face something serious comedian, an actor showbiz per self in remain her brothers closest confidant there, six, the dearest, siblings, growing up and suburban raleigh north carolina, a typical middle class household That is until you flip the page as it were in ventured inside this felt like we worked sentimental. no, it was almost like. We were hard bitten alcoholics show nobody turn it doesn't sound like what the court, but it doesn't sound like you were arch, we're judgmental either judge
leah. We're judgment will gather if you're wearing a toe ring and you're gonna compare our how's rebuke to spend time. With the sudairis you'll notice, they share a certain sensibility, a legacy of their mother Sharon, who also gave them their first lessons and storytelling. Something would happen and then she get on the phone and then tell a friend about it, and then she the phone awhile later and tell another friend and you'd. Think oh it change. I like to see more definite order, which is where he gets, and then she would do it again and again and again, by the end of the day, she had this little polished jam, but I do that thing like Amy, never does Amy, never repeat, herself yeah, I guy down there father, lucid heiress, they say was never quite in on all the stories and jokes men could be cruel to his children, particularly to David.
just feel like my dad bed, all his chips on me. A failure father said a million times. You know you are a big fat zero. I mean how many times the dancer that to me and everything you touch turns to crap. I mean over a new are oh yeah, over and over and over again and so on. The kid I thought you know what I'll show you, but you never show them. it's early years were a struggle. He wrestled with obsessions and compulsion and with his father's refusal to accept that he was gay. He drank too much and dropped out of cod Twice before finally, getting a degree in visual arts in the early nineties, Sir Darras moved to new york where he took a series of odd jobs chronicling his if in a diary, but publishing no essays intent, he wrote about his time. Working as a department store christmas self, he read us an excerpt
Well, there was a line for santayana lying for women's bathroom, and one woman after asking me, a thousand questions already asked, which is the line for the women's bathroom and I share that I thought it was the line with all the women in it did she said, I'm going. Have you fired at two peoples? that to me today, when heavy fire going be my guest, a more green velvet cost him then get any worse, and this must be clear. Didn't take this job as an l for for irony or because he thought you were going right about now. I have any skills. I apply for all sorts of jobs, and I this job because I'm short I'm short, and I didn't have a criminal record in the history of unlikely literary breaks? This might take the prize. What star there's a journal. Entry became a national public radio essay santos, diaries which
aired in ninety. Ninety two did the equivalent of going viral it would be a break out here says, will put you on the map. Did you over the time, no, no It just seemed like everyone was listen to the radio that day and it really. I went from somebody with no opportunities to some one having to read them out since then, his subject matter expanded, but its form is remain consistent. Sat there, no novels were sweeping narratives. He starts with a note book. He brings everywhere in terms the jottings into personal essays mix, memory, observation and he had met some exaggeration in service of humor. The final usually begins with the mundane and ends with the meaning, and why The literary celebrity may be an endangered species, please back to the late show David said: aramis seduce not only plays their part but dresses. The part here
tributes essays to the new yorker, the bbc, and on occasion, CBS news ended aged sixty five he's on the road more than two hundred days each year, good for his brand, but also his process. He rate for the here as much as for the readers I, which makes audiences, not simply his fans, but his most important editor audience- is wrong right, can't convince some somebody that something is funny I did they laughed at or they did I did they paid attention to it or they didn't and the audience. telling you all of that sort. My job to listen to them his success, his approach to the job, can still leave him feeling like an impostor, That's when I worry that, because I think what if I'm not really a writer because What a fine these certain ways you can cheat with your voice right, you can,
No, you really concerned doesnt plus books analyse millions million sold. you really have that I'm not a writer we can then new, thankful and cheating here. Look I am saying, he's afraid of a woman, and you really, a woman, I'm not describing her voice. I'm doing voice right so can can a reader hear her? I, or am I cheating I cheating by using my voice, still readings DR book sales, which drive ticket sales, a virtuous cycle, that's afforded to derose multiple home, including this cottage south east england, where he spends part of the year with his partner of more than thirty years you hammer and artist who appears and essays as the sensible, centering ballast David's flights of fancy in my mind the silk serve a classic domain. story. One character is, we know
I have less and the other person is reliable and capable, and that's hugh all right? I dont know how to do anything. I dont know how to look at our bank statements on. I don't open any envelope unless it looks like fan. Mail, henrik, It's the limelight as much as the dearest craves it, and it took some convincing to get him to sit down with us. We wondered what it was like living with someone for whom everything is a potential story emily, no power well well. Well, I don't want to go the other way. I think he would now, when I accept from one are women accepted, never had to say not alone, others can go, to the readers of the new yorker, the millions people reading her books. I think I might have tried a few times just saying. Do you have to say that he says yeah, everyone thinks it's funny and it's like. Okay, these days go for the biggest laugh can be risky. Especial for someone like likes a who proudly doesn't much traffic in down
these are sensitive to land? This is gonna. Make me look bad when people rebus thing is such a landmine. Now I don't want to sit at my desk with my hands and feet tied together. He refunded me you offended me. I haven't been great, there's other stuff for you to read: go somewhere else, out here in england, far from the twitter mob morning, for writing. Well, afternoons are for going on walks or well maybe women incidentally, is childhood compulsion, the adult version he says. Is this picking up on the side of the the roadways we naturally want. to tag along, How many hours a day, in four and six, usually I go out after midnight I'll go out. It's ok, you're, going out with a headlamp on and do busier roads. This is also where he says he does a lot of thinking which recent He has centred on his father Lou, who died last year there, happy relationship left unresolved
David wrote about one of their last conversations. Benny and me David, he said, is, if it I just realized who I was you ve a camp. so. Many fantastic things in your life, your way I want to tell you you, you one. when you said you weren't, you think it was a cosmic you want aim of life ready. They gets you one new defeated me: I'd go back and forth. I mean that's what part of what made it compelling to write about is it I don't know that so a question I'll be asking myself, I'm dunno, my life two years ago, on the northern shan reservation and lamed your montana christie wooden
I family rush to her home after receiving shocking news on my My daughter came out fight he was run over it. Is Ok, I know she died offers I what, but when they arrived there no police force the cops first of all. Why is there no popular because crime scene, you know like there should have been yellow tape. Missing justice from CBS news takes you inside what really happened that night and the federal investigation that followed kind of hardcore events in the police hoping that arrest him then we just like it was a silence like nobody came and let us know anything and how for years. A family fight for justice listened a missing justice from CBS news strain of amber twenty. Second, wherever you did your pipe casts tonight. An update on a story from last may ballet.
exile that's when we met ballet artists, both russian and ukrainian, who fled the war to pursue their art overseas. Tom ukrainians out of necessity, some russians are programmes like the bolshoi oldish minimum. I had funding ferreting, like My home, I say it on my repertoire, my partners. My parents ceased to brother everything, but they don't have regrets. You'll regret of because at least I can be honest to myself american philanthropists howard, buffet son of Warren Buffett. In once, the focus of the sixty minutes profile was watching. His foundation, has granted more than a million dollars to help support the exiled ukrainian dancers. I'm john worth time we'll be back next week with another addition of sixty minutes,
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