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There was a complete mystery, a shocking crime, the kind of shit that you think it only seen the movies could even call it a cold blooded ambush, I I am whom Allah are going from lr ago. He I'm a reporter with CBS los angeles. This happened in the mountains, east of l a way up in the mountains, the sky dressed as a delivery. Man goes up to this, he knock on the door when the guy was supposed to take. The package comes to the door.

Pulls out a gun and he shoots three or four times. We learn that the victim was a lawyer whose name was mark angelou. Cheap Angela, died right there at the scene I couldn't stop thinking about mark. I would wake up interior with my pillow, already soaked, just knowing that I now live in a world without mark pursue I'm Cassie J. My dear friend of mark entelechy, he was just down to earth at the centre of a saw, a good hearted person, Did your mind, start racing about who could have done this? I didn't want to jump. Any conclusions that this was and was mark. Was everyone look just eighteen?

after mark angelou, she was murdered. Another crime took place about twenty eight hundred miles away in suburban new jersey. It seemed like an exact copy. The delivery man The gunshots was notified met the shooting occurred at a federal judges, residents, new jersey, and I m f b: I knew a field office, please telling us The gunman was dressed up as a delivery man when he rang the doorbell here at their home right here behind me when he would want to hurt the judge or who would want to hurt someone in her family. Her college age, son sustained a gunshot wound to the chest. I get a call from one of my friends he's like there's an article that dan ya go to Google right now. So I go to Google and sure enough. There is article after article after article just describing what's happening

thing inside me believed it, because I couldn't get over the fact. I'd seen him five hours before there's no way. This is happening Every article was saying that Dan had passed away at the scene. There is one that had said no like he's in the hospital keys in bad shape, but he is alive, and that was the article that everyone was claimed to like. There is hope What ended up happening was a man had come to their door to drop off a package that man was not a fedex employ that. Was a very bad man to heinous but similar crimes on opposite sides of the country. Were they connected. We did not have the subject and pocket. We had no idea who was here. You have a violent and unstable person, so aggressively preparing for that possible

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the documentary film maker, Cassie Jaye still has a hard time. Grasping that are close friend mark into luci is dead. We almost had a kind of brother sisterly love for each other and respect, and he was my biggest protector and also my biggest cheerleader. The andalucia had been living in cedar pines park, California, a sleepy little village here in the san bernardino mountains, east of los angeles.

It was broad daylight when he came to his door to sign for that package on July, eleventh, two thousand and twenty the fifty two year old attorney never had a chance. He was shot point blank. The this looked like a targeted assassination

Carmela hour ago he reported the story for CBS to los angeles. There was actually someone else who answered the door, but the delivery man insisted that angelou chief sign for the package detectives would learn that the shooter had used a three eighty caliber handgun, but had precious few clues about his identity. He got away in a white car before anyone could stop him. It was at the time a complete mystery to everyone that detectives couldn't tell us merge this sheriff's department didn't have much either cassie was nearly five hundred miles away at her home in marin. County tell us about mark who was mark and luci. If you could think of the most humble sincere fine that was mark and all his friends will tell you, that mark was popular and photos,

Posted online show his spirit. but he never married nor have any children a saga Her attorney is passion. his work. So when you say prominent attorney, I picture fancy sue nice, car, big house, Was that mark not at all, and we couldn't be more emphasis than that he had to beat up car old guard. He was not a materialistic person by any means, and he had a rare and controversial specialty gender discrimination against men. He often spoke at conferences. I believe we need to hold people accountable for false accusations and not just talk about it and that mark when I went to interview him for my feature documentary the red pill, which is

about the men's rights movement and at the time I was very sceptical. I had been working on films about women's issues, my entire life. Why do you think men's issues have ignored for so long. I think there are a number of reasons, but one of them is simply that manner condition not to complain as much especially if it's about a gender issue mark was not making a case for males premises. She says: what's more, he was

I like the men she met, who came to the men's rights movement after going through a bitter divorce or custody battle, and so it was more of a fight for justice in his eyes that we should all be treated equally. Domestic violence, you're starting you're, seeing more and more awareness about male victims and false accusations, father's custody rights. I think it's, it's all a very slow process, but we are seeing awareness mark one cassie over, not only as an advocate, but as a human being and in the few hours long interview with him, I just adored him by the end of it. He was just so engaging of all men's rights activists. I met. He was really a unique character, so he didn't hate women or no, no or no. Mark no mark was strictly about fairness, justice, equality,

matter, their gender. He was there to stand up for the underdog and since those so called underdogs were often under funded. She says a lot of his work was pro bono and he did most of that work for free, yes, and now it's really shocking and kind of hard to believe He wasn't motivated by money. When Cassius film was finished. She kept talking with mark ramble on and on and on and about everything that he had worked on. But then you had lost hope. One hour mary thing about my life and we could just talk for endless hours. He was curious about you to it. Wasn't all about him. Oh yeah, he was one of her most. perished. Friends by the time she got married in twenty eighteen, he made the six or seven hour drive in my eyes. He just had to be there. I mean he was really became a part of my family, who he really was.

Part of my life now that someone took his life cassie, wanted to know why I mean immediately, I kind of women to detective mood. I was trying to make sense of who could do something so awful tomorrow of all people. He didn't have any enemies as far as your new exactly and if I really wanted to hold space for it. Just being this fluke, maybe even accidental order, but she did wonder if marks work made him a target. I started digging into the different cases that he was involved in. I realised that he was defending defenceless people in difficult situations, innocent people without a lot of money.

Who were coming up against very powerful people with a lot of money. Police said the motive was unknown and hoped someone would come forward with a tip. This was a strange if they knew that a killer was out there. They didn't know who they didn't know why they did have a well founded fear that the killer would strike again and sure enough far away a nearly identical crime was about to take place. Police are still wherever they have this entire screamed blocked. My whole body gave out. I was like this isn't happening. Now is EC no like this. This can't be true. hi, I'm lindsey, graham the host of wander his podcast american scandal. We bring to life the biggest controversies in? U S, history press and shall lies, environs

well disastrous corporate fraud. In our newest series, we look at the kids for cash scandal a story about corruption inside america's system of juvenile justice in northeastern pennsylvania. Incidents had begun noticing an alarming trend. Children were being sent, waiter, jail in high numbers and often for committing only minor offences. The f b I began looking to local judges and when the full picture emerged it made national. lines the judges were earning a fortune carrying out a brazen criminal scheme, one that would after the lives of countless children and force a heated debate about punishment and america's I'm an old justice system following can scandal wherever you get your upon guests, you can listen ad free the amazon, music or wonder you up here. Three thousand miles away from the california town. Or mark andalusia. She was murdered a family

we have a well respected. Judge in suburban new jersey was about to be blindsided by another vicious attack. Do you refer that the one you're about to take Esther salas was the state's first latina federal judge. I took an oath and I stand by that one. I follow the law when she testified at her senate nomination hearing and twenty eleven. Her family was at her side here has been mark an earl, my son, Daniel that really excited, and he wanted me to make sure that that the matter, madam chairwoman, that you knew that he got permission from this principle, be your sister Mary, Louise Daniel their only child was just ten at the time. I can tell he's very proud of you. He has a big smile on us federal judge. Salas. His life story is inspiring. She was raised with four siblings by an immigrant mother in a small apartment at age, ten she rescued the family cat from a fire

that left them homeless. Through it all she diligently pursued are education and she was a lie in turn when she fell in love with attorney mark an Earl he's highly energetic, easily distracted, hard working and a lot of fun to work with david oakley marks. La partner is a close family friend, there's only three of them and they were so close knit and so affectionate marketed demanding workload and his wife often handled hundreds of criminal and civil cases simultaneously, but they both always had time for Daniel who shared his father's passion for sports and girls. On unruly Joe augustine, coach Daniel in baseball for ten years Dan was the ultimate teammate. You always came prepared

he always came with energy, and his talent was promising. But after graduating high school Daniel chose not to participate in college sports. He was committed to following in his parents footsteps. He made a very conscious decision to focus on his studies. He definitely to try to aspire to law school in two thousand and eighteen. He went off to the catholic university of america in Washington DC. His parents and as involved in his life as ever. I have never met a kid who speaks more highly of his parents. He has in his dad were his best friends in the world, and he would let you know that classmates cat, Hayley and Sarah Petersen say Daniel was a friend they could count on. There was a bug in our room at two in the morning and we were terrified,

like Dan get over here right now. He hops on his electric skateboard and is over within thirty seconds in his pajamas, reva killed a bogeyman he's like anything else. We literally have a video of him dancing in the rain, and if that doesn't lake, explain his character. What does college continued to be a blast in new york city. The virus spreading so fast came march, twenty twenty and cover it. are concerned. There will not be enough resources to fight the disease. We went home for spring break and then they may be enough. but you're not coming back, it was weird from seeing someone every single day all of a sudden just nothing that summer, as Daniels twentieth birthday near

he was sorely missing as friends his parents worried about the pandemic, but felt if everyone adhered to guidelines, those friends could come visit for the weekend it is really awesome. Really nice matthews ziegler, one of Daniels best friends, arrived like the others on friday the seventeenth. Seventeen we were just hanging out outside mostly is very nice out his parents were, actually catering dinner for us there. You picture, judge and obviously she's very professional, but he's very friendly rewritten, about boys and about what I wanted to do in the future. surely took us under her wing for a couple blissful days. There were no signs of trouble we were just so happy to all finally see each other. It was incredible and when they bid Daniel goodbye that sunday they had no inkling how bitter sweet those moments would become Here's a guy. I love you. I love you too, and those kind of the last Precision we ended up having all he kept saying that weaken was this.

last weekend of my life hours later judge salus as she and Daniel were still riding high as they cleaned up the basement or weakened or the glorious one. She would later released this video telling what happened next and we were chatting as we always do and Daniel said mom. Let's keep talking. I love talking to you mom, and it was at that fact omen that the door bell rang upstairs mark peered out to see a man holding a package resource fed ex sky for was odd sunday, but then again esther got a lot of fat axis because you know covered in the court's being shut down and going on. But that means said quiz that

and before I could say a word, he sprinted upstairs Daniel came springing up the stair from the basement and opened the door within seconds. I heard the sound of bullets and some scream. No. As we were rolling out to the location, I certainly had a feeling that we were in uncharted territory here. On July? Nineteen? Twenty twenty fbi incident commander Joe Denny hand, was sent on an urgent

There was a shooting at church. Ask yourselves his home in new jersey. The details were daunting, individual had rang the door bell had asked d, charles the sun, to go, get your chest. She could sign for now below a delivery and at that point, Shooting began almost immediately right there and they flee their house just a few inches in from the front door By the time Esther salas got upstairs from the basement. The shooter was gone mark. Her husband of twenty five years had been shot three times and was critically injured. Their son was shot in the chest. They watched his life fade away. My family has experienced a pain that no one should ever have to endure, as mark was rushed to the hospital investigators

to work having terrorism always something we consider immediately, certainly at the forefront of arms We just didn't know if it was something that was organized group or a single loan offender alone offender. I'd, be someone who held a grudge against one of Daniels parents, so unclear of george flowers were maintained, a target for her husband. We had several people who had made either derogatory or borderline threatening comments. The judge and we began to do profile work up. Some all those individuals mark had briefly seen the shooter, but could not describe him well. He described his best, Could he sustained a very, very serious gunshot wound to the abdomen? He was alive. He said because of his son. As he told his friend, David oakley Daniel died a hero. He said he remember Daniel, raising his arms and.

And getting shot and falling back Daniel being Daniel protected his father, and he took this year's first bullet directly to the test. judge, salus and mark Andrew were left with an unbearable loss. They lived through four heartbreaking miscarriages and called Daniel their miracle baby. He was the center of their universe, while my husband is still in the hospital recovering from his multiple surgeries, we're living every parents worst nightmare, making preparations to bury bury our only chance I thought that I knew he was also mourned by his friends. Initial reaction was kind of just sitting in my family room with my family and just praying. It was probably the hardest thing

A radio through still going through this horrible. I can't even imagine who would do this and who would want to do this to an innocent kid? Investigators were anxious to find out within a day The case was in high gear, how we are still searching for the gun got away with multiple federal and state agencies conducting investigations at the same time, a hundred fifty miles away on a remote road in new york states, cats, gill, mountains, another case

just beginning reagan. Road is a dead end road. In a very rural section of northern Sullivan county state police, captain Brian Webster says his troopers responded to a call and found a dead man with a bullet in his head. His body lay in the grass near an unoccupied car. He had a wallet with photo identification. The dead man was roy, den holland or Seventy two year old attorney, who lived in new york city, didn't bring any any browser. I didn't know the name who killed this out of town lawyer and I hear murders are rare in this area and if that's what this was, the cops had their work cut out for them, but the evidence at the scene pointed

something else there's a while there are some automatic pistol located in very close proximity to the deceased subject there. It appeared that he had a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head suicide is something that we handle all the time and one particular item in the car was alarming. They had found a fedex envelope that it was addressed to judge esther salas in new jersey and the investigator who actually finds the envelope was familiar with recent news reporting. He had known that esther salas was a federal judge whose son was recent, murdered chopper to shows the best gator swarming. The faint webster immediately reported the apparent suicide to the fbi he had used. A caliber hang on the three eighty was this Same calibre that these issues at the judges home as unexpected as this was the evident, seemed clear Roy den holland.

Shot mark and Daniel Andrew then drove to upstate new york and took his own life. He was unusual on this in a certain, since you are being seventy. Two years old, highly Uk attorney member of the bar, but when police began looking other items in his car. They discovered even more evidence that the now dead, new york attorney was a killer. They found in a dress a residence. small village in the mountains, east of los angeles, ran the addressed through. We realise that there was a murder that it occurred at that address, that murder victim was mark angelou, chee the california when he gunned down by his front door. Just eight days before the attack in new jersey, the details were chillingly familiar. He had to sign for a package. When the victim arrived at the front door, he was shot with a three two caliber handgun, the california detective.

Had been stymied. Now. Roy Dan HOLLAND, or appeared to be responsible for that crime too, it was It's true for San bernardino county sheriff's office. They had no subjects at the time, but they were actively working it and they partnered well with us so working closely with them. I think we're able to piece together a lot of the puzzle, then holland or did have the opportunity invested. To learn that in early July he had taken across country. rain trip to LOS angeles here at union trains. Asian in downtown los angeles den hollered, walked right through those doors he was caught on surveillance, camera. Here's the picture authorities match this photo with another image taken at another train station. Just four days earlier in san bernardino, east of Lhasa

less investigator, say that stand holland or wearing a mask and calmly carrying a cup of coffee. That train station was just twenty miles from angelou cheese home the timeline fit after the murder, as california deter. The search for clues den holland or was on his way back east, ultimately to judge solaces home is terrifying to think up there. people out there who are capable of these sorts of of crimes. Fbi investigators were convinced, Roy den holland or committed both of these crimes, but they had no motive, and they didn't know why he chose these victims, who lived so far apart there a lot to learn about the cold blooded killer, and his troubled past that include With stint in moscow a russian model,

Even a televised street brawl see how investigators pieced together the gunman's movements that forty eight hours dot com The f b. I believe that the three incidents worldly murder of a firmer nato, a san, is connected to a connected shooting at a federal judge's at home, in new jersey to harrowing crimes. Part Andalusia was killed, The eight hundred miles apart or caused a man to open fire inside a federal judges home in new jersey and one suicide. Roy DEN hollanders discover deadness cord today

on a faraway dead in rome. A multi state homicide investigation is not something that we deal was very off. After attorney, Roy dan holiday took his own life. The agents later found em. The online manuscript he left behind part memoir part manifest. Though we were dealing with an unstable person. Who, I think is fair to say, was a coward. He was a ticking time bomb hiding in plain sight, but he had once had a successful career. Roy was very personal, articulate affable guy Joe Syria met and holland or in moscow. It was ninety. Ninety, nine and stereo worked for an american consulting firm there overseeing its investigations. Den hollanders was a new higher. He had been

richmond bout, a den holland or had an impressive resume. He once worked for a prestigious law, firm and had earned, and heavy league mba this guy, who apparently successful and he's in good shape. Even so something seemed. Ah, he also died his hair and he loving as die hair, but he told us why why cause. He could pick up babes but easier that way. Babes demonstrating worries the lot and my idea of what a fifty year old is and how they should be, quoting quote, conducting themselves it wasn't matching up, then holland or wasted no time hitting russian bars and clubs. It was an obsession there was here. He was fixated on women and going out chatting up women dancing with women, picking up women stereo, whose new book is titled vodka,

workers in the russian mafia. My life in moscow recognised risk? At the time russia was in the throes of political and economic upheaval. I've been here for ten years. You just parachuted in I know what happens to foreigners who go chasing women, what happens to them? They get drugged, they get robbed every once in a while he got killed. In this case that didn't happen. Then hollanders state in russia for a year married a twenty four Your old woman named alina and moved back to the states with her. What did he tell you about her? He talked about her body. She was a model apparently or model status. You know that kind of a body that kind of attractive this these photos of alina were on den hollanders website. The union was contentious and short lived. They filed for divorce, both claiming cruel treatment in his memoirs,

den hollander rips into his ex wife, calling her a poison dragon. One of the themes that we saw was he was a very angry person. And he was a massage earnest and he blamed women for the failures of his life. It would take about this much paper, two thousand pages to print and hollanders entire manuscripts. Its largely I hate, filled diatribe against females, starting with his mother and extending to women in positions of power, and we re just a couple lines from it. As for that most virulent form of female evil, the feminine nazis, I despise them despise them for the harm they ve intentionally done two men. He vowed to fight them until his last breath. When I was really is, is manifesto arose imagining a person, war,

into a pool and he's walking into this pull his whole life after his divorce, Dan Highlander began filing a flurry of lawsuits aim to eliminate what he sighs female privilege, most notably ladies night, said bar the person who might be taken advantage of is me: girls have power. always had somebody argued ladies night in bars, is a benefit to men. why, in god's name, when you try to get rid of that, but he saw it as he saw it as just another way. Those riches are cutting out the light.

From underneath men, their self described, anti feminist lawyer became a go to die for provocative media stories spent or your energy food very angry, it's more euro absolute upper only gets a feminist syrup is obvious to everyone outside of him that none of this makes him look good he's. Losing cases is loose decisions, and sometimes he lost his composure away. Emerging startled, as seen here when he was shooting a profile with wrench tv crew and took his anger to the street. through that ass was on diesel easily cities, but do you think there is also a part of him that realized we were laughing at him or at least rolling their eyes on him? I don't know how he could

I have seen it the last time you went out whose car was it, who paid for the taxi who pay for it and then looked lyra tabs and my my time in my life and thereby learn what are you doing tonight dead? under wrote that he was diagnosed with a deadly form of melanoma in twenty eighteen. He be rated his doctors and continued his rance in July, twenty twenty, his rage turned deadly. Why did he go after mark Entelechy roy mind? Mark was guilty of encroaching on royce territory, angelou cheese, Our work has been paying off. He had made some progress in court with male discrimination cases involving the all male military draft marked and even realise that he was in danger that this guy had a grudge. I don't think so,

Cassie J didn't realize at either. Although she'd spent considerable time researching men's rights have you ever heard of this guy right in holland or no Never heard of him he's never come across my radar. He wasn't embraced by laments rights movement, no one referred, to me. As for esther, salus investigators believe she was targeted because den holland, or blamed her wrongly for slowing down One of his lawsuits in spewing hate filled words. He called her a quote: lazy and incompetent latina judge. David oakley is still trying to make sense of the damage done. Holland or caused people are capable of. Evil is often probably very difficult to distinguish it from derangement, but there is evil, and course there could be some kind of combination of the two. This was not one of those cases where you would say. Oh, this is the last

person. I would expect to do something it wasn't that it made sense. No one knows why Roy Holland or chose to drive to this remote part of the cat skills, but when he was a child, his family had it patient home near by as fbi agents continued going through those papers left at the scene. They other unsettling lee morning, redid uncovered list of large number of individuals. Someone legal field, some in the medical field. The There is no publicly known evidence that Roy den holland or harmed anyone other than the known victims, but investigate.

Were unnerved to find papers in his car with yet more names, including other judges and people in the medical field, We always assumed various intent with someone like this, and so want to make sure that, although we didn't think there was any existing threat to them any. Where we want to. Let them know that their name found on this list. Fbi agents concluded that the seventy two year old attorney had acted alone. We know a great deal about MR andor. We spent hundreds of hours analyzing is. Writings. His website had a lot of sexist racist hate speech on it. You said that the men's rights movement is not angry white men with a chip on their shoulder about women, and yet this guy was an angry white man with a chip on his shoulder about,

If you want an example right, honda wrote a book any dedicated to his mom. May she burn in Hell, Despite the grudge he held against mark andalusian, Cassie J says the killer was no We are near marks equal as an advocate. What are the big cases that he took on for men's rights to one of his proudest accomplishments? Was he sued the state of california for refusing to fund services for male victims of domestic violence, and he won that case an equal protection clause in the case indiana marks, scored other legal victories. She says but never lost his sense of humanity. He lived a life that we should all strive to emulate.

and anyone who knew him or we're better for it. Daniel Andrew barely made it to age twenty, but he too lived a purposeful life. He would always be one of them people go to for advice about anything, and he was always there to listen. He was a good listener. He truly is one of the best people. I've ever met my entire life. We are only texting each other like amazing that was gone on. It was hey like. Let me talk to you really quite like just let me get your opinions, quality that I admired about a most was this ability to love others, and this billy. even when he was hurt by others who is very low. Dress guy, and it was, I think, english, because he just lived in the present moment. So well here friends, all remember that tight knit relationship he had with his mother and father. He was so proud of his parents. He loved with,

did. His mom was a federal judge of new jersey. He was ecstatic and he talked about her accomplishments in his father's accomplishments. All the time I just want to be there and support them in any way I can David oakley is eager to help his friend. He was Daniels godfather and they shared a deep devotion to their faith. I have direct evidence. Daddy died heroically that he had a wholly death, and so I have no, I hesitate about praying to Daniel, and I happen. There is nobody else. I know that would do something like that, except burden to sacrifice his own life to save some one else. It was instinctual for him in that moment

This is what I have to do. This is what I'm going to do. Seven months after taking three. bullets. Mark Andrew was still recovering he's on the men, but it's a very slow, slow process. He and judge salas have now found a way to have Daniel. Good will live on my son's deck can not be in vain The judge says the shooter was looking for her that day and had no problem. Finding her at her own home. The free flow of information from the internet allowed this sick and depraved human being to find all our personal information and target us. She and her husband had been. It is hard to change that, and in november twenty twenty they scored a major victory. New jersey, governor signed. A new law named for their son

today, decide Daniels law, judge the law prohibits, making the whole matter of judges available to the public Daniels law will make a difference. It will protect judges from senseless acts of violence. It's a fitting legacy. She says in the second report is deaf Daniel osmond keep talking to him because he loved talk intimate while they're, not on behalf of all new jersey judges. I think You ve done for all you have done. This is now judge, salus and mark and Earl

are now taking Daniels law to the: u S, congress, using it as a model for what they hope will become a federal law. They remain as devoted to their son as ever I am profoundly moved by seeing how Marken Astor are dealing with this unspeakable event. They ve turned it into something positive. for others, I Legislation inspired by danish law has been introduced in the. U s. Congress social media was a huge part of bacchus. Like my group, tat was passing. It was of a photo of my friend. It looked like she's dead. How did images of a seventeen year olds murder go viral her.

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