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she had shot and killed. Her ripest I'll course think this is going to probably be a self defense case, Scott, a rapist off street. Oh, I thought Like her, I am I'm summer, our benton and I in the lead homicide detective the victoria ribbon case Aware who was the victim and the victim was well Cartagena? They had been relationship was often on for a number of years. He on his own business. It was doing very, very well He had his own home. She swept there some horrible things. This man used her emotionally physically and sexually harbour,

Think she's, like the other half of me, goofy funny she's great mom, just a great friend of around The soon as I stepped foot in that back bedroom, I knew we had a problem. There didn't appear to be any signs of disarray or a fight. Nothing looked like what it should have looked like and then, when the medical examiner turned him, he had three gunshot to the back and then a reality. Tv show came out. Yes in shock, everybody. No one knew that this was being films and how you described. This show just filled with wise. She's climate that she was raped. She's, claiming right when,

if you haven't even got on the scene, yet to know spoke with her. You don't even know what's happened yet forty one thirty show me twenty six on Clifton. There were so many things that were completely false. For some reason, this girl she did a tactical reload. The fact that she reloaded the gun that wasn't true you guys can get me every rape case she has ever filed. The fact that she had claimed you know that she'd been By so many men so many times, it's too big to email that wasn't true, it looks like she was training to kill wow. Please give me a break. It. Just came across as what's gonna make a good tv episode, My name's amanda clark palmer. I represent victoria rick men, you knew this was going to happen, we're dealing an investigation that, while was done quickly, wasn't done thoroughly. She has no scratches bruising. It certainly seems and looks like the tv cameras affected. What happened?

there if she had been raped that night, then this would have been just by shooting and I would have written it up as one, but this was not just by shooting. This was cold, blooded, murder, the

Atlanta police detective summer Ben has a name a job and some would say an attitude made for television. Tell me about the hat squad: hats, I am very proud of our hats. We have somewhere to doors we have one or for doors by your knowledge, where fedora until you ve solved your first homicide case in her sixteen years on, the job detective Ben has been the lead detective on sixty five homicide cases, but it was the shooting death of will carter june in the early morning, hours of september, thirteen, two thousand and thirteen that put the detective in the spotlight as Benton investigated this just an in video cameras from that reality show inside homicide were rolling. The tv crews were embedded with the atlanta policed.

Men and we are following the action that night. The shooter was victoria red men a thirty year old divorce, mother, she and well carter. Also thirty met through mutual friends and dated for three years they bonded over their kids will had a daughter. tori, a son who were about the same age. He was gonna. Lenders is hotter and shit. What about him. They had a lot of things in common victorious from Brittany. Morgan says that a one point, Victoria, a marketing consultant and will of local business. moved in together and god engaged. She

wanted to have a family be married again and have that for her and her son. But the relationship went off the rails. The couple had a lot of arguments and began living apart. It was just back and forth back and forth, just very toxic and then just after midnight on september, thirteenth, two thousand and thirteen will arrived at the house where she was staying and Victoria told first responders. He raped her victoria admit

in shooting carter with a forty caliber semiautomatic that was in her bedroom mirror. She said she shot him to protect herself. She fired nine times hitting will every time at first benton's as he was giving Victoria the benefit of the doubt. But then she called will's father pius a son, Mr Carter. My name is investigator. Benton, I'm with the city of atlanta police department. I've got some really bad news, five thirty in the morning and the phone rings twice. So you know I'm so sorry, sir. It was detective button and she explained to me that should had been killed, but before replying she did

say right now. This is a self defense case, and can you help me with some details going? She said this was a self defense case. What was your reaction about? Peut leash like no? It's not either will's father told Benton that a year earlier the couple was fighting and his son showed up bleeding. She hit him in the head with a hammer. she bit them in the back. In fact, I told will, after that incident said if she had a gun, she killed you, but Victoria called police and told them well had tried to force her to have sex and that she used a hammer to fight him off will was arrested for sexual battery. And simple assault tools: later she standing in her driveway with whistle treasure european air come oh yeah, she just flat. She got furious with me and she said I can't tell me what to do. She said. I have a gun. I don't know how to use it. It's like well, eventually, Victoria declined to press charges and the case against

I was dismissed, no, no, no, no, no, no you're, not coming in my house and then in May two thousand and thirteen four months before Victoria's shop will tori. I didn't tell you to be here, get out here, dude, I'm scared of you was this incident happier bible, korea, honour cell phone as she tried to enter wells house

what is a toxic web of lies. Stop it I'm going to do it this time, Victoria was the one arrested and charged with battery those charges were pending at the time of will's death benton took into account what Mr Carter told her and then the medical examiner discovered that we'll have three bullets to his back after that that no longer believed this was self defense. What we truly believe happened is that he was standing and he was not facing her at the time. This animation shows what police suspect may have happened. We believe he was standing next to the bed facing the window when he was shot in the back three times, which then one of those shots filled his lungs with blood which caused him to cough causing the blood spray pattern on the wall next to the window, and then we believe

I fell back onto the bed as he's lying on the bed. She is then finishing him off firing more shots into his chest and his head to Ben. This was straight up. Murder. There were no signs of. She had tried to scratch him. Her nails were pristine. He had no scratches on his body. I do not believe she was raped. Victoria was given a rape exam, it showed she had intercourse, but there were no signs of internal injuries. Hospital records noted bruising on Victoria's arm and leg, but that's not what bent Told a prosecutor on that t v reality show any indication of any injury to her there's nothing. She has no scratches no bruising by midday on September. Thirteen two thousand thirteen only hours after the shooting then arrested,

victoria red men. I advise her that she's being arrested for murder and she simply says. Ok, I was it screaming up and down on innocent. I didn't do this. While Victoria appeared stoic, the card or home in marietta georgia, william Carter senior and his wife Carro were shattered. They can solve each other and wondered as they had many times before, about wills. Fatal attraction to Victoria is, as you have nobody, google, you wouldn't listen anybody about this. His biggest flaw was it. He couldn't see the evil in her. But a victory. I had personal demons so did. Will years earlier will have been arrested. Several times for property damage and drug use. Will Carter admits his son had been a drug attic back than life? What kind of drugs I owe you

was the the doctor said. It was more than something like marijuana. It was dangerous. After ten years of drug use well went into a rehab facility. He actually overcame his addiction and started his own business. I was extremely proud of well and he never gave up. He didn't give up on anything or anyone. What drew will to someone like Victoria. My sister is a psychologist said we'll make sure it was his last addiction. I don't think he realize how dangerous she was, but victorians as well was still the dangerous one, and only four months before the shooting victoria reported to police that will have beaten her and she had documented. With these photographs. I think the constant abuse that she was going through.

She just could not take it. Anymore. Victoria went to court for a restraining order, but the office was closed. A deputy sheriff working there spotted her bruises later for her own protection. He gave her a gone here urged her to use that gun when it came to wheel carter. after victoria redmond to them In thirteen arrest for the murder of will Carter Jr, she was denied bail and held at the Dekalb county jail in Decatur georgia,

Do you think you should be on trial at all for anything illegal jail officials? Would not let us interview victoria face to face breathing down, never never read again, but we spoke to her via an inmate video calling system. Lending victorious stuck to the story. She told believes that she was fighting off, will who would raped and beaten her. Even I have one way Did you think your life is at risk? Victoria says that night will was behaving a radically.

But no one will ever know. If that's true, because detective Ben never requested a toxic college report, she says she didn't know. It was her responsibility, because this was our first homicide case and a cab county which had indifference, at the procedures. I had no idea that you have to specially request of victims talks and blood alcohol, so, even though they had taken his blood and held on to it at some point, they then disposed of it. So it was destroyed. The blood was destroying for my understanding, it was but Victoria does not believe that was a casual oversight. She thinks it was something far more sinister. She's, extremely good at trying to play the victim

Ben may not have believed the Torah, but there was that one law enforcement officer, cobb county deputy sheriff rick prize who did months earlier price and spotted a black eye. And bruises on Victoria. At that time he matter at the courthouse. Rick price gave victoria gun. It was one of prices, personal gods and the deputy even brought Victoria to a gun range to practise, says atlanta, least attacked him heavenly on packer and lo and behold, she's use that very gone to shoot and kill. We'll car and right after the shooting rick prize was the first one she called He told her to call nine one one. When the phone records came back, we found out that, just before she called nine more one victoria called rick, and it was about a two minute phone call. Ben

belize. Price was just one more male cod in Victoria's web. She was really good at getting the men to give her whatever she wanted. Vittorio rick moon was very skilled manipulator. So this is your house, and who is this Here this dispenser, it's actually victorious dog andrew. scar is a lifelong friend of Victoria, the berger, and this was where victoria estate he owns the house where the shooting occurred early that evening Victoria told Andrew she wanted to be alone and asked him to stay at his mother's house after he left victoria spoke on the phone with well, please don't know what sad, but some time after midnight will showed up when

and here you know that something happened between twelve twenty about two ten in the morning. What do you believe happened? Believers story, one hundred percent debt victoria, red men shoe well and cold, but did she plan to kill him that night achieve? fight him over to kill him. She didn't invite him over. She didn't want him over there. She didn't plan to kill him and she didn't murder him. I am one hundred percent believe she shot him and said events, defence attorney, amanda clerk palmer, says, Victoria killed will card or after he raped her because he was still close enough to be a threat, may think. There's about this mount distance from those shots, they would have been somewhere within six inches to two feet of each other, which lark palmer demonstrated. What she believes happened in this king size for

what was your bad and that is similar to Victoria's and the guns over here right. She insists the first shots were to will's chest, not his bag, as the police believe. So he gets the two shots to his chest and then turns he stands up and he coughs and gets the blood spatter on the wall and then gets the shots in the back and then kind of sits down and falls back and as he's falling back, she's still shooting so she hit him two more times in the had correct. He gets the he gets the shot through the nose that goes through the nose, chin shoulder arm and then the shot to that is the last shot. Probably was it stressful, highly dramatic situation?

And the shots happen I mean within a matter of seconds. Bam. Bam. Bam, bam, bam right after it was. Let me shoot until I think the threat is over. While Clark palmer was trying to make sense of the murder scene. Investigators were taking a second look all the evidence. No one had been able to crack the secret code on victorious cell phone, but a few months before the trial investigators made a crucial discovery and came across a piece of paper that said phone code and it had a four digit code on it and the investigator plunged into the phone poof open right up the phone spit out more than sixty six thousand attacks, some four thousand pages worth sent and received by Victoria. This was like a mother.

It was formation. Absolutely it was a mother lode to hear more victoria recommends jailhouse interview, gotta forty eight hours, dot, com the there's three years and ten months have passed and we've had no trial. Paul rittman Victoria's father has patiently stood by his daughter for nearly four years waiting for this day august. Twenty second, two thousand and seventeen the day her trial for murder begins. I'm hoping that we get through with this and have it over and have her home Victoria rickman faces I've in prison for shooting her on again off again boyfriend will carter junior remiss in my region,

big hole in? Will Carter's parents attend the trial to stand witness for the type of person will was everything we ve done is to get his reputation back and to be able to tell his story ladies and gentlemen of the jury good afternoon. Sheila ross who has a reputation, is one of the most successful prosecutors in Georgia lays out the case against Victoria, men yeah. She, Junior fear. but rather a year abandoned were involved. What can only be described As an very strange naked. Why are you taking pictures ross place for the jury that cell phone video made by victoria during the contentious visit to wills? How.

in may two thousand and thirteen not not coming to my hopes for months for the couples fatal encounter tory. I didn't tell you to build your get out of here. Did I'm scared of you all yours? toxic web of? Why stop it? You here? Now. Is she Yes,. She had been raped here years is. We're going to have to look past that and we're going to ask to render a verdict. That speaks the truth of what happened to william Carter Jr. That night, which is nothing short of thinking, map proceed. torreon defence attorney amanda Clark palmer paints a very different view of the case. This case is about domestic.

He abused her physically verbally and emotionally. felt like he was gonna. Do something terrible to her. On the way he was acting and based on the fact that he said I'm going to kill you. The said: attorney, never shows the footage from inside homicide to the jury, fearing it will give the wrong idea about Victoria. Attentive been didn't come alone, but she tells them all about it in her opening. It was the star and she's kind of narrating. What she's doing to the cameras are just at the initial water, no one victoria, whose just been raped, just shot and killed william Defending herself, the she's, ok being on tv, they d come over and start filming everything that's going on from the looks of it it doesn't appear. There was a struggle in what happens. Next was a rush to judgment. In this case, we've got a,

occasions. The police show up, they collect evidence there. Not his meticulous is, I think, it had been looks like she was training to kill. While she was just fighting defending herself. She was in beer for her life and she's, not guilty on the second day of testimony prosecutor ross calls detective benton to the stand. Did you observe any forced entry. No, I didn't know you were there. Any injuries to her face was Important note: did you look for signs of a struggle? I did. I was unable to find that there were any signs of a struggle, but the defense challenges that assertion and we can see the lamp on top of the lights must be fair to say this land has been.

Rise? It definitely looks like a struggle occurred there, and we also see the sound machine hanging down between the night stand and the bed right. Not a neat and orderly room? Did you find a firearm there we get detective. Benton is questioned closely about the gun used by Victoria, what type of firearm was. It was a forty caliber, semi automatic detected that and believed the gun could hold only twelve bullets the scene. She found nine, shall casings four bullets left in the gone that adds up to thirteen so bad and concluded the victoria had to every loaded and shared her thoughts with the cameras. Begun doesn't hold thirteen for some reason. This girl should a tactical reload wrong.

the capacity of the gun, is thirteen, could not be clearer to anybody who knows anything about firearms, I'm extremely proficient with the phone. The issue is crucial because Ben says, if Victoria reloaded, she cannot claim self defense. Detective Benton thought that that was indicative of premeditation martyr. You recognize now that the maximum capacity in this weapon is thirteen right it was You are a boy or a wrong about They were not loading, nor was not at this but you have no evidence she reloaded now. You just can't say that you made a mistake. I don't believe I did did ever occurred, that you might be putting wrong information and affecting potential jurors who see this show.

No. That means she had to switch magazines. This was a brand spanking new show four five, six seven eight, I didn't know if that part was going to air of what was going to air. I didn't see it until it aired the same day. Everybody else saw it and did you then say wish? I hadn't done that? No, what's your reaction to that, it was incredibly unfair to Victoria as unfair as parading a rape victim before television cameras, says Victoria's lawyer and then there's the information. Benton says she got from cobb county district attorney's office that aired on inside homicide. They stated that she has got such a long list of rape claims against so many men that it's too big to email they'll have to physically bring it to me. Well that wasn't true, you know everybody makes mistakes, I'm not saying we didn't make any mistakes, I'm not saying Cobb county didn't make any mistakes. You know we're all human still

Active benton does not believe the misinformation from the show will affect the trial. I think we have smart people out there and smart jurors out there. It doesn't matter what they may or may not have seen on television or on a television show following bent into the sand, is colleague, detective Kevin Leon, packer developed another type of expertise that involves the analysis of cell phone records Leon packer performed a forensic examination of Victoria's cell phone. detective. Zeros in on the night of september, twelve, two thousand thirteen just a few hours before the alleged murder or several threads of communication, all records text messages between MR rickman phones and other individuals ran packers, as well as text to Victoria reveal. He was furious because she had called the mother of his child. Will text victoria that he's breaking up with Ernst Liam

Acker reads the text in court: you are too dangerous to be around, never contact me or the mother of my child. Again, why are you taking pictures of and in the text, will also says he's going to follow up on criminal charges against Victoria? In that incident captured on this I'll phone video- I need you to get out of here- victoria may have feared and assault conviction would affect custody of our sign. She begins sending text to her friend deputy sheriff rick prize, sounding more and more desperate about will he wants we put away now my only hope, is to change his mind. I think that what the evidence is shown with the text messages have shown is that she

The decision when she called will carter that night to kill him, but the tax are not the only surprise, detective Leon packer finds inside Victoria. Somehow I was dumbfounded life while she go to any lengths to prefer story The. listen. This is this: is your city ass this season It's the best person who really know the best friend I've ever had to see me to see her go through this brittany moore.

has always believed Victoria, Britain's claim of self defence. As our closest friend, she had seen the bruises and hope to be in court every day to support victoria

I need her to be able to know that I'm there I'm there for her hybrid me. Are you a fan, but she and Victoria's father Paul, say a situation there's no way you can put in words and Victoria's lifelong friend, andrew scar, it's devastating! It's devastating are barred from sitting in at her trial until after they testify she's, not a cold blooded killer before court begins. Victoria's attorney wants to ensure Victoria puts her best face forward in every possible way. She doesn't deserve to be in jail back on the stand. Detective Leon, packer details, his forensic analysis of victoria cell phone. Remember that photo of bruises

Victoria's right arm the morning of the shooting it turns out. Detective Leon packer found these selfies in her phone. I looked at the meadow data on the photos to see when, where these photos taken and that's when I found they were twenty four hours before the murder ever occurred, this is for whole defence. This is her whole assertion of self defence of justification for shooting and killing will and those bruises. Instead before he ever showed up at her house that night there was some evidence indicate that maybe the injury she had she actually had twenty four hours before. Isn't that really damaging for your case, not at all,

well not really damaging? She had other bruises that were notated. You know on her body in the medical records, because rick price, the cobb county, deputy sheriff, who gave Victoria the gun she used to kill. Will carter is now an instructor at dobbins air force base. He testifies. He met victoria court house where he worked for months before the shooting she told her head. beating her. She needed a protective order. I could see the bruises arms could also I share. The outline black eyes. Prosecutor, she'll, arise, suggests prize, had romantic feelings for victoria always interested in better, but we never debate hasta good friends. Did you ever have sexual relations with her? Then? Did you ever

tell anyone that you did not fall people all sorts things they had nothing to do with reality. Price was fired five days after the shooting for not cooperating with the invest. Negation halfway through the second week of trial. The defence begins its case victorious lawyer calls to the stand. Will carter psychiatry, doktor, John locke ridge. When is the last time you saw, will hurt her junior, who makes us tardily revelation. He says that on September tat, two thousand thirteen just three days before wills dad will reported, having

solutions. He certainly thought you, spain, ass. He was on tv use talking to him through the tv language testifies that will have been taken and anti psychotic drug to help him sleep better, but because detective battened never ordered it

Toxicology report, no one, will ever know what drugs will had in his system when he was shot victoria claims that will had stopped taking his prescribed medications and had gone back to illegal drugs. Why they're also testifying for the defense of former chief medical examiner for the state of georgia? Dr chris Lee Sperry bolsters the defense theory that Victoria fired the first shots into will's chest, not as back as the prosecution contends for tours blue or whether he could be twisted towards her and leaned over. So he gets the two shots to

cast brittany, morgan and now it's time for Victoria's friends who have been waiting to tell the jury what they saw in the year and the months before the shooting the person was. It was kind of just look like fingerprints on the side, I've seen bruises on her arm, I've seen a white guy. I have seen a mark of love her. I remember with she had the bruises on her bonnet on a risk and arms and second occasion on the fruit cough county, police, lieutenant robbie re says he to sob racism victoria. a year earlier. She had some bruising on her left forearm over left bicep. She said her ribs were sore. Victoria redmond decides not to

the stand, but in her closing argument, clark palmer, make sure jurors hear what Victoria's voice sounded like the day of the shooting. That is not the voice of a killer. I didn't how powerless she felt when William carter, who was lower than her heavier than her and stronger than her was right. Bring her She finished him off with a shot to the head, that is cold, blooded murder, no more after two weeks of testimony prosecutor, she'll arise is ready for closing

Women's and she holds nothing back and if he in fact was raising her, he shot good race. use. One of the things that have happened. Victoria brakeman is not guilty defends, attorney, Amanda clark, palmer argues. There is no way Victoria cut a plan d kill well because No idea he was coming over. That and there is zero proof that Victoria written invited will carter to her house and once more clark, palmer, slams the behaviour of detective summer. Baton? She wanted to know what's the capacity of the gun and she got wrong. She says that Benton's investigative work was shoddy and biased from the start. Ganz Victoria she was trying to make good the tv,

and she didn't want to do anything or take any steps and her investigation. That would contradict her theory that Victoria written was guilty. closing arguments and later on the friday before labour day weekend, but judge J, p belay orders jurors to begin deliberating. You now mozart stand around thing and you wouldn't be here for hours, and they said we ve got over. Surely we have the jury returned with the verdict. Less than an hour The judge has the lawyers look at the jury form to make sure its proper and the lawyers clearly

the verdict. It was a very simple verdict form it just had the four counts. It said she was guilty on each and every cow. We saw you whisper something to victoria I just said to her I'm sorry at heart. It was extremely hard. The next moment make it official Now we was I find that the toilet gilding. I think that there are averted the swiftness in which they rendered their verdict speaks for itself. Is that your your yes, sir, when the verdict was

yeah. That was a huge rainbow that came over atlanta to me. That was will he was finally at peace for detective baton. The verdict is gratifying. That gun doesn't hold thirteen for some reason. This girl says a tactical reload all along. She has stuck to her conviction that Victoria reloaded the gun, but, after speaking to her superiors, she's reconsidered, I probably wouldn't have made that grand of a statement, but you know it doesn't matter. This case is not about me as cases about William carter, Jr and the fact that what happened in that bedroom, hmm, all or five weeks later

we want is backing court for sentencing. There's no doubt Victoria will get life in prison. The most she can hope for is the possibility of parole to see clear victoria rick men who did not testify on our own behalf addresses the court. stolen life. I love it the

in the ten years I asked you are getting back in my day. Victoria offers no apology, just Rubin stand and the judge offers no mercy. This forces you to live without the possibility of parole. The.

The two days after the sentencing hearing well would have turned thirty five years old, will's mother says her. Son's death is a loss for everyone, but especially for his young daughter, she's, a good student she's got a beautiful heart, never see a graduate and never feared her wedding, but his memories is what's important and that's what I want to be able to carry on and be

It felt that I had this young man in my life and my group will be pushed off and the memories of will are everywhere. Loki is election with world in a way that will love is dollar is almost thirteen way beyond his normal, wise man, lavish women, lucky guess: mail comfort, because I know how close will was to Loki and his. We still have that connection with our sign of something here on earth. We are going to be okay, we're going to make it through this. We'll Carter's daughter is being raised by the child's mother victoria redmond Is being raised by your ex husband means lawyers filed a motion for a new trial to hear,

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