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now, when I got into work today? You are getting worse and that this some forty six year old doktor was done. This beloved woman in our community had been brutally once I had her own house and then he started to on rapid a little bag. It was ninety. It was weird and was hard to keep track of it. All of this is doctor teresa receivers high profile, doktor did a lot of holistic medicine and people. You know said that she was too full of spitfire, just a short thing ways wearing a foreign chills, clock clock and around I will discuss her as radiant almost call them that appeared in my newspaper and she was on the front of local magazine ladys walking into a room met turning heads, she was telegenic, energetic she's

funny and his teresa mark at a gallop Marken teresa have been a couple since two thousand three. When they got married in a beach side ceremony in saint petersburg, she was sore. The breadwinner and he was office manager at her practice, and he helped raise the kids they had a trip. And to new york to spend the whole weekend with her brothers and sisters and her mom and tree. So it fly home. sunday night to be monday morning, topping up her practice, one sunday night. She comes back here to the southwest florida international airport. There security footage of her rolling her suitcase through the the terminal she calls mark, tells him she's safe and then gets in her car and heads back to their house

The next morning her office staff got in its now nine o clock. Now, it's nineteen o five. Now it's nine fifteen acid where's doctor, I was taxing back in worth trying to see. If you a worry at and no response called answer marks out of town. He says I can't get a hold of her either. How unusual was it for doktor savers, not shut up, even if it was nine o clock and three seconds after you would hear her heels coming in. My one minute, your emergency under for himself mark had a friend

come and check up on her he's out of town, because she's been on the floor and the hammer at the side can shoot fast in the back of the head, and you know how many times she was seventeen. I came home from work and I look up at the tv and my heart dropped and that's just my son's house and his wife and their two children who is dead when you first heard how teresa die. What did you think must be some man man out there, who was this, where did they come from? Why would they do such a thing I'm Aaron Moriarty tonight. Forty eight hours, eleven hundred miles

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and who was murdered, that sort of wide society pays attention to for better or for worse. The shocking martyr of doktor, teresa savers and Benita springs. Florida was a huge story, especially for jessica lives. Come who cover crime, for the Naples daily news that s mother, She'll who was killed brutally inside her home was horrifying to people the doktor, it cut short, a family vacation and upstate new york. And a loan home alone on Sunday night june, twenty eight two thousand fifteen. So she could see patients the next morning. You kind of put yourself in her shoes. Rolling your suitcase through the door and then to be attacked by someone from behind is hard to imagine in

so believe that as soon as doktor savers walked into our kitchen, she was killed, struck repeatedly with a hand I remain astonished by why it had to be done with such savagery, Amy Bennett Williams wrote about deceivers murder for the news grass roots passion in its premeditated sits. Let's call an angry. Very angry was just so unbelievable. We canneries heard the tragic news she contacted her step: brother mark savers, the doctors huh then how did he react to the death of his wife? I can speak he's not the kind of guy that spend overly emotional on the outside, but he couldn't speak

Connie and mark became family when her mother married his father I asked him what happened to teresa and what did he say? No idea mark met his future wife in two thousand and three. When he was visiting saint petersburg florida cream much loved, our sight. While I think by the time that he introduced her to mom, I think he was pretty much done. Is off the market efficiently because he was work. As a nurse. While she was recently divorce physician teresa hung the moon. She was a remarkable human being. very special, and that's the way mark treated from the beginning could just you could hear it in his voice. They were married on the beach surrounded by friends. Family, including stepmother, jenny, wacko, men,

set wedding and a beautiful gown. It was very nice. Was he happy on that day? Oh, my gosh here is very happy Six months later, their daughter, Josephine was born. Deceivers built a large house, Benita springs and in two thousand and seven welcomed another daughter, carmel, I hadn't worked feel about being a dad It was everything to him. They were his reason firm fork for being here also all about teresa and her mission. We talk about our physical health, mental health That mission was to open a holistic practice where she could hear patients by blending traditional and turn it in madison. She also spread message in speech and videos, there's our spiritual and energetic health. We would have patient

from all over the world. They would come to us after they failed everything else. Sandra Hoskins was trees, receivers, long time, medical assistance. She wouldn't take no for an answer. Talking about the doktor still make sandra emotional and as a patient. She wouldn't it to say: I'm never going to get better while patients love the doktor sandra, nor husband, Frank pays who also worked at the practice and met. It wasn't always easy working for savers, she a short views. I would here doktor screaming and yellow and back glaucus stack receivers with yell at the patient's. She was there help you get better didn't have what I call the bedside manner, which he aren't you

Yes, the arrest is a problem, the bigger foam expecting perfection and if it wasn't perfect, she will get so I need to maintain my mental sharpness. She wants some felt, a big presence. times that man died, He got really feisty with people issues. the biggest figure in the room while treats it took care of her patience. Mark took care of their daughters. The girls were his pride and joy and managed his wife's as I have also heard it described that he allowed her to have her like he made her life happen very much. So yes, he because he was the support system and you know, saw to the day to day details so that she could do what she wanted to do, but even mark couldn't escape wives, wrath back, get mercury now killer, whatever my can help and leave sandra alone lego grade, and how

and would doctor Sievers yell at her husband, was it a pray, frequent thing every time? Unfortunately, that was the norm. It's almost like he had like a thick skin. He just didn't care. It's the same thing that trees as close sister, Annie, LISA, told investigators that mark put up with his wife's anger because he adored her. She could finish ripping them like mark. I talked about the dogs out, I'm sorry hood anyway, and then she would be doing something because sweetie, let me get that for you or worship the ground theresa walked on and according to Annie hers

MR was equally devoted to mark teresa, always said I'll, never leave mark, I regret my girls. Nevertheless, within days marked savers became a person of interest. Was that just because, whenever someone is held, the first person you look at is the spouse, though I think that its this become a cliche, it has to be. The husband did cooperate initial! Oh, yes, thank you, I was doing the right thing marks bug two investigators. Without a lawyer present an and handed over his cell phone and allowed them to download the contents. Was he worried he might be arrested? He thought. Why would they what kind of evidence could they possibly have? Because I didn't do anything? In fact, mark savers had an air tight alibi. Remember at the time of traces murder. He in their two girls were with Teresa Spain.

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I'm an old justice system, following can scandal wherever you get your upon guests? You can listen ad free, the amazon, music or wondering app. eight days after doktor teresa savers was murdered, friends and family came together for her funeral, including mark's stepmother, jenny, wacko men. There were a lot of people, yes and- and it was sad of course, almost all her patients where there was none as we were going down to try to get to the casket We are seeing our sisters on one side and the look that were getting wasn't a look of sadness. It was look of hatred,

frank pays and his wife Sandra say the look didn't just come from doctors her sisters. They were getting same look from the grieving widower What do you say as a mark? I am so sorry. I dont have words to say to you and he squeezed me so tight and nothing came it mouth sandro out on an Cassandra, his teeth, grinning and Wasn't nothing of sorrow were said this. The look was hatred. They stepped back ass, a holy and they were the only mourners who added auditing count with doktor. Savers spouse her ex husband, her first husband, Kenny cousins. Was there

he went to hug mark and bumped into a gun that mark had strapped to his waist and he thought that was jarring note. On that day, that mark came to the funeral with a gun under his jacket strange well, perhaps but doktor trees. savers killer hadn't. You have been arrested and, according to stepsister Connie Rees mark was on edge mention protected when you said protected, What do you mean? I think you know he always it's an eye and ear to the ground, so to speak, and is aware the surroundings and You know he was concerned for their their safety. That was on the back of his mind at them basin danger to his daughters because of what happened to their mother. Just didn't make any sense. Who would want the vibrant and dedicated

you're, crazy, Sievers dad and why killer with such anger and force could have been anybody. I'm really thought. Maybe it was just body that was in the area and broken Our son. There were signs of a forest andrey prime marks on us doorn but marks extensive gun collection and forty thousand dollars in cash discovered inside the servers home hadn't been touched, so When this happened. Everyone wanted to know what happened, what the alarm and as it turns out it hadn't been activated while the family was on vacation market, asked his mother bonnie savers to feed the family path. She had trouble setting the alarm that sunday and told detectives her son mark said not to worry about it,

monday morning, doktor savers was discovered, dad honour kitchen floor, the my fault. You can be human. Around the time adapt receivers, murder, the internet was buzzing with reports about the suspicious death of other an doctors in the. U S, denmark think that her death might be connected with. Gaps in it for a while right after she was killed. The blogosphere sort of erupted with Dennis there there was a doktor here who was killed in a chiropractor here who was killed, and is this some conspiracy big pharma too, eliminate doctors who were challenging the pharmaceutical establishment, but with no

no evidence to back up that theory. Investigators turned their attention to the people who might have had an axe. Grime with the energetic, often abrasive, doctor Sievers? I think the theory that I heard was, Maybe it was a patient. Obviously they were interviewing all of her friends and family members, so it was pretty much like a wide open field of suspects that I also heard her say over the years, It was bad mouthing teresa I see name emerged police interview, doctor savers, Your Annie LISA said she heard sandra, Hoskins was a disgruntled employee. Ass, the same sandra who seem so upset by duck savers. Dad we re not like your boss. Bad mouth to patients that are coming in the doors and doktor savers. You know she says she's events

like, oh my god. They think I did it sandra who claim she had been treated harshly by doktor savers in the past had planned to hand in a resignation that very monday the doktor was found dead. According to sandra the doktor told her. She was bringing that energy the office now. I know why I was not received very well at the memorial. Why would anyone think that you did. that is shocking to me. A lot of the patients didn't know the way she treated me, and so people thought maybe you just had enough and when a detective called her husband, frank. He greeted me painted as low room, and he left me there sand along five ten minutes, maybe even fifteen minutes sunlight

he realized all eyes were on him the sudden dawn amelia go wholly crap bump being watched. I saw a piece dust on the floor, and I accounting mississippi one mississippi too two hundred and twenty years, and then the detective walked in, and he asked me point blank did you have a sexual relationship with doctor outside the office? Never had a relationship with her outside of work or like that doctor Sievers ever come on tv and he goes did you have? This relation with doktor inside you office absolutely, not these four suspicious because Frank had been let go from his job, doktor doctor practice by her husband mark. Nine months before she was murdered, but why did they think that you could have killed, trace a safer, so no mean where you worried about frank? I wasn't

worried about him, because I know he didn't do it and frankly, He had an alibi there in late august, two thousand and fifteen. Nearly two months after doctor Teresa Sievers was murdered in her florida home a stunning break in the case, police made arrests and the suspects were not from florida, so we showed up to a press conference. I believe that august and the sheriff gets up there and tells us simply the name of the first suspect jimmy rogers and he says he's from Missouri and he's been booked for the murder of teresa Sievers. Never heard of so I thought oh well, who is he and what to do this and then about an hour later. He calls us in again and says we ve now picked up a second suspect also from it

so shocking to solve this murder investigators would travel more than a thousand miles They were in for a wild ride. They would soon discovered this case had as many twists and turns the Missouri river the teresa. Savers was bludgeon to death with a hammer. Names are still waiting for answers: the tumor respiratory, The deceivers murder made seven hundred miles away in Missouri, see to come out of the blue mark stepmother, jenny, worker man,

you know. What's going on, just seem like such a discotheque. No one had ever heard of the suspect jimmy re rogers, but it was the monk shot of the other suspect wainwright that struck everyone. He had an uncanny resemblance to the victim's husband our savers, all I can say is that their physical similarity was the subject of plenty of newsroom top local rob wider Amy Van Williams. We would. oh photos of them side by side and say you know: is there some lunch? here of which we are not aware. They look alike, at least in pictures. They look like twins. That's when to believe that, definitely There is not something right with with Curtis wainwright, as it turns out curtis wainwright? He goes by wayne

was no stranger to marks family whose marks Mary had friends, ages and ages. So I didn't believe it. I didn't it just didn't make sands waning I can grown up together in Missouri way was a treatise funeral. He had celebrated marken traces wedding with them, and just two months before the murder mark at them wanes best. Man at his wedding way was also why literally a familiar face around the office. Did you two wayne right. How did you know Peter guy that, let me just like lark way would travel from Missouri to florida to work on the computer? in doktor savers office? How would you inscribed wayne he was geeky. All he wanted to do was get to computers up and running, focus.

to me. He just seemed like a very geeky creep stir. Did he make you nervous a little, but I cannot Well, it's just a woman's in a wish, and how would you do cried mark and wanes relationship. They appear to be close friend of yours. He's my brother from another mother that mrs lingo back in hillsboro, Missouri, red ball in new boats. Mark and wayne when they both had haired? this here is hillsboro elementary school. This is why me- and we met for the very first time in third grade great ball and remembrance is high school classmate wayne as attack whiz. Kid voted most depend. The ball and as a fun guide. A hang around with you Actually reinforcing became our class president, smart, very smart,

sleigh? He was one of the smartest people with computers that I ever met, but it wasn't long before Gregg suspected wainwright had a dark side, in nineteen. Ninety six greg's brother Ronnie Balin a preacher mysteriously disappeared. His body has never been found and, according to Please ronnie his last seen with wayne. Do you leave. Wainwright killed your brother guess. I do no question about that. I have no doubt in my mind, gregg believes them It was money that wayne old, ronnie, reporter jessica lipscomb. He found his car with the car keystone ignition in a car wash in Saint Louis wayne has never been charged in ronnie disappearance, but he is listed in a police report as a person of interest. And wanes no stranger to the criminal justice system in

two thousand and eleven. He was serving time for drug possession when he befriended the other suspect and doctor Sievers murder. A young inmate named Jimmy ray rodgers, who was doing time on a weapons charge. Just telling you the job I wanted you know Jimmy was released from jail. Tyler, Juliet and Jeff Conway hired him to work at a contracting company. He liked to tell a lot of stores a lot of things he told at the time Nobody really believed Jimmy. He liked to brag a little bit about the things he had done in the past a colorful criminal past. He says Jimmy would brag khan jobs, ranging from stolen merchandise, to counterfeit money on earth well. Jimmy was dangerous guy. I just felt like he was a blowhard honestly. You know I really felt like he was just a talker, commonly recalls that he had asked Jimmy to work on Monday june, twenty nine, but Jimmy texted him.

Back and said he was an available. All I said was a candle I'm still in florida on june twenty nine, the doktor teresa savers was discovered bludgeon to death with a hammer insider florida, home and it didn't go unnoticed. Two investigators, the Jimmy. Rogers- had a unique nickname. simply jimmy rogers nickname was the hammer, but I think that was more of like us self, given nickname. If you talk to some of his friends from high school, they say nobody really call them that, but I think maybe going to jail for the first time. You know trying to make a name for himself. Maybe that's somethin, he sort of assigned himself to fit in. Why was jimmy the hammer rogers in Florida that fateful weekend was wainwright,

with them and what led authorities to believe they were involved in a doctor's murder. Back in june, two thousand fifteen, practically We won in hillsboro Missouri knew that wainwright was planning a weekend trap out of town reporters Amy, Bennett Williams, and jessica lives. Scum, I bought it slip to lots of people that he was going down to florida, told some people he was even going to visit the sabres and word was out and it wasn't long before police got a tip that wayne had been in florida at the time of doctor, seaver murder any having gone there alone, he went with his jailhouse pal jimmy the hammer rogers He had actually told me a couple weeks before that that he might be

in the florida I've been working on, is today it's Jimmy's boss, Jack Conway, a little bit. He told me a story that his brother had graduated from. moscow and that he had invited Jimmy down to florida for the week in all expenses paid money, Tony's pregnant girlfriend, taylor shoemaker another story that he was going out of town for a few days to work with wayne. He had told her. He was going down to make some money detectives from Florida arrived in hillsboro, missouri weeks after Jimmy and wayne return from their trim. In front of wayne about bad tat, placing them in florida. He shoved them down, but a g vs exposed a lot of what they needed to know on the morning twenty seven two thousand fifteen wainwright gun till rental car here, Hell's borough, Missouri, and they want to pick up they re rogers. At some point this address was put into.

Gps, and then the two men took off for the eleven hundred mile ride to benito spray Is florida after driving all they and all night. On Sunday june, twenty eight wayne and Jimmy arrived at the savers. How the Benita springs address it's all right there in the gdp ass, a digital footprint for investigators when Jimmy and weighing arrived around six a m authorities believe they turned off the house alarm that may explain why marks mother Bonnie was so confused about the alarms for me. I was not there at six o nine in the morning. He was tennessee ten on the year. That's what I'm trying to work, my god then, according to the yes jimmy away in love, deceivers, home and tightened. Another address rural walmart to do some shopping.

Obviously looking at that security footage from the walmart their able to pretty quickly determined that's who who was with when they made no effort to cover their faces. disguise themselves. It is false. Like they were anyone else. They bought. Among the things trash bags flush about when wives, black towels lack shoes and a lot picking kid they pay. Cash for their purchase with a one hundred dollar bill after shopping walmart Jimmy and weighing continued using the navigation system to fight the beach. Does it make any sense at this guy who was so good with computers would have left such a trail. It does, but it doesn't. ball and firmly believes wainwright killed his brother, no

wanes world is far from predictable to a lot of people looking at it. Kinda makes it look like these guys were just dumb and Delmar dirt soaking in some son at the beach, according to police, affidavits wayne and Jimmy returned, savers, home, where they hung out for hours in the garage lying in wait for an unsuspecting dogged receivers to arrive, which one do investigators believe actually did the killing so story or two in which way he said that he started and Jimmy finished. less than an hour later in the early morning hours a Monday june. Twenty nine, the gps shows Jimmy

weighing on the highway headed northbound? For the seventeen hour drive back to Missouri, the electronic trail would eventually led detectives to jimmy re rogers door, just like wayne he deny being involved, but when imploding, Jimmy's girlfriend taylor's statement, which means you're in a spiritual truth, the whole truth and nothing. But the truth is why story, he had to tell jimmy re rogers took his girlfriend taylor for a ride right along here rule forty seven rural missouri, and along this road. He asked her to throw out parts of his cell phone, which he had smashed earlier. Some gloves, jumpsuit and He said to me that a in Do I It was now

Did he ask? Why are you just to tailored to police? That's when she pushed jimmy to tell her exactly what happened I don t and I'm time her thy. He went with way they killed, mark mark sewers, wife, and he told me he was in here okay and he said that he killed Teresa seaver and marked it with a hammer. Yes, detectives now knew who killed Teresa Sievers, but they were missing a crucial piece of the puzzle. Why would wainwright want to kill his best friends, wife did everyone then say: oh my gosh work had to be about the definitely I mean There is really no no putting wayne in florida in Benita springs inside their house without mark knowing about it or what

there when you heard that teresa had been murdered, did it occurred to either one at that mark might be involved, not even a thought in the back of your no not at all, and I marked savers, family care accept what just about everyone else had long suspected there were a lot of things that made mark savers seem suspected people, he wasn't talking with investing anymore. He wouldn't give media interviews. There were rumours that he had lawyer it up but didn't mark savers have an air I had alibi even with the look I'm being with his two daughters. People just couldn't find what a possible motive could be for anyone else to be interested in calling this line

porters amy bandit Williams and jessica lives? Scum, discovered, deceivers public life was very different from their private life I heard rumors very early on that they were swingers and when investing leaders downloaded mark cell phone, they found text messages, emails, photos and videos revealing salacious details about the savers and their open marriage. It was a surprise, The Frank pays their from ours and we thought they had a different lifestyle. What they did behind those doors? No one knew about they both well relations with other people. The savers may have look well, they with their big house and successful medical practice, but they had serious money problems. There is a significant iris lean on the home. Mark said that

They often lived paycheck to pay check. I think that there was sometimes almost panic about money when investigators uncovered five life insurance, These four trees are totally more than four million dollars. It was a red flag. So was that trip made the missouri to be Wainwright's best man and, as it turns out the others us back jimmy re rogers? also a wedding gassed investing peters wondered if that's, where mark hatched a plan with the two men tailored shoe our Jimmy's girlfriend claimed this was a man. For higher, and the Jimmy was supposed to be paid. Ten thousand dollars ass, it is he's more higher.

wayne yes and mark didn't know anything about Jimmy being hired, but it's supposed to come from the entrance and yet was not arrested after conducting dozens of interviews. What about mark you will, in the jewel examining thousands of doctors and and arresting wayne, and Jimmy detectives still didn't have the roof they needed to connect mark to his wife, treats as murder and then almost eight months after trees, deceivers was killed, wainwright facing a possible death sentence. Suddenly turned on his brother from another mother, and he took a deal MR right? Why are you pleading guilty today to second degree? Murder, self preservation is a powerful thing,

wayne admitted killing teresa completing guilty because of my role in the planning and participating murders treats of teresa, and he accused Mark, savers of being the master mine it's all police needed Did you hire wayne right to kill your wife? Martin receivers was charged with the murder, Why did you hire anyone to kill your wife? It is clear to me that he had nothing to do with this murder marks attorney antonio, vega, but the end of the day when weighing was faced with the death penalty, he said I've got involve somebody else and that somebody else had to be mark. Is there any direct evidence that connects marked with the death of his wife, not that we have seen yet and yet he's charged with first degree murder and faces the death penalty based on the testimony of wayne

and marks family believes weighing killed trees on his own. Without marks knowledge. Why would weigh Kehl trees because he's a sick man do, you think way was jealous of work it's possible whether he's jealous of marker wanted to be mark. I don't. I don't have any clue. though you say, was wayne who begin a model himself after mark even shaking his head when mark began to bald they didn't look alive. While we were younger, Missouri friend gregg boleyn, they warfare to each other over the years, if it was by chance or by their plan, I don't know, but if weighing killed teresa savers on his own how would you ve known she was coming home alone that sunday evening? Is it possible at all

wainwright in Missouri, have known what teresa was up to her schedule. Absolute slowly. He didn't need to talk with mark he could have found that out on us. Yes, it turns out wayne may have been eavesdropping on the savers for years. He said up their office computer system and what troubleshoot current sandra frank. They say this where's allowed lane to access everything from his home in Missouri, taken crape on the commission any time you want and do whatever he wanted. He saw everything was going on a new office? Is it possible that waned new more about what trace was doing then around husband, new possible conny reese, and imagine mark could have had anything to do with the death of his wife. I love my brother

I know that terrible things to happen and people do things to people that love, and I try to be open, minded about that, but keys not a sociopath. Wouldn t do this to his children. Just not possible. did mark savers, one his wife dead because of jealousy or money, or was he betrayed by his best friend? That is an astonishing photo you in there jail uniforms. It looks like image mar accused of planning wives, brutal murder wayne the admitted killer jimmy the hammer, rogers and marked savers, both of pleaded not guilty and will be tried to gather a jury we'll have to find the truth Behind doktor trees, receivers murderer, doctors,

mrs lindh dramatically, and she die dramatically nobody really got what they wanted here. Her husband didn't get what he wanted he's in. In jail, you know facing death or children lost both their parents, so it seems pointless that happened happen it's hard to make sense of it. mark seafarers and wainwright were being held, indifferent jails, teresa mother is now guardian of the savers. Children no trial date has been set for more of tailor. Shoemakers police interview join us at all. The eight hours dot com, the

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