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okay, calm down where you at and then the phone goes dead, the pinging on kind of twenty five. Ninety five, it feels extremely anniversary. It sounds like she's running the week first responders. Arriving too I mean in county road, twenty five. Ninety five, they don't know. they're getting into their going down this dark road, the middle of the night- female. Twenty five. They see why female flagging them down david It is this

If the dispatch calls me on the cell phone said hey, I think they need you out there on the ground. Sure the You want a little bit of stuff yeah. She was just frantic she had blood on her shoulder area and it's all over her leg and are sure your name. Chasing Tracy was poignant. Tell us what what what happened images of rolling, didn't see anything I saw a shadow, that's all there was or your husband. What's his name, Robert robert robert point, or either firefighter or just pretty for me,

It's me arrived here- replied around midnight. So What can I do with our flashlights? This point on, you can start making out a silhouette of somebody stole energy energy was covered in blood. There was no indication of a struggle we had a witness, tracy pointer, and then there is somebody loose at large that had and I could see Robert hence it is at that shot he slipped over under the passenger, see I swallowed relocate

are alive. He was then this is a case about sex was money. A murder

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The halloween night of september. Ninth, two thousand and sixteen is forever. in the memory of chasing pointer yourself, something I can't get out of my head. thing. I just felt sell something when she says her husband, robert pointer, decorated, fire department. Captain was down by a shadowy figure just feet away from her on this rule, road in royse city, Texas. being said, if you look below us tire treads from tractors deep ruts, it's a true farm road, detective, Michael Berg, photograph to see the night of the murder. They were still water in the riots. They were still muddy,

That was pretty rough. It's not even a travel roads for farmers to use to make access to their fields. That night, sergeant shane meet, wondered how tracy and her husband ended up on this broken rope and questioned a breathless cheesy in the back of his squad, car, reformulate pointers on down and bring forming. Nobody brave ass, like that You're not open, Mozilla slobber jc says the couple plan to meet at a fast food restaurant for tacos as the medium of the jacobites. I don't I don't ever take deserve for what made you come down this one, and I missed my last one. I did. I never never been demonstrated before and she texted her husband

What do you say to him told him that gps said that I was three miles out chase. He says, while texting, she got stuck a called him after that. I told him that my jeep was stuck in Need him to come home me as a fire captain robber used to come into the rescue. He rushed to her side presented with a little He drove out there. Why depart there? He told Tracy there roger to deep anyone, gonna be able to track down here. I'm now, almost all the way down to his truck, and we walked back together anywhere to go, get my dream down the driver side as well. She waited on the side of the road for robert to back up. She heard a gun I don't think

you he was robert, I jumped in the jeep was rolling very slowly. I was holding his head in my left hand, and I put the jeep in part with my right hand, and I was calling his name. I could see his eyes practice. Fill the blood this was a clean assassination. Robert unfortunate didn't have a clue what what happened to him, The victim was sitting in the driver's seat. He's got entry wound rationally right here on the table on the right side of the desert. And the wadding from a shotgun shell was still in his skull, and could you tell if that blast was was shot from four to the vehicle or from behind?

It was hard to tell cheesy, says ass. She ran for help. She saw that shadowy figure there is at present and what was he were dark close? I did you. You need to have a firearm rife or anything like it and is now well sympathetic. Sergeant, meek was puzzled One guy just happened to be standing in the shadows of the trees to step out and shoot this guy point blank in the in the head with a gun. Just didn't make sense. That will give me a second partners need to speak to me I'll, be right back with you, okay, I was terrified I just watch my husband, it shine and

the main that did it was either, but whoever that suspect was. Why would he want robert pointer dead? Robert was a devoted public servant. A career fire fighter obviously all those things you don't believe in it. First at the university park, firehouse near Dallas, where robert spent nineteen years as a fire fighter and later a captain. The pain of his loss is still wrong for his buddies, jason Paul Earl and mark, but every day you still feel this absence.

I still miss the map deny I think, of bob every day I come up here. It burns me up inside, but every time I pass his locker I get choked up inside it makes me want to cry. I'm about to cry now a firefighter with the touch of a gentle giant, my last fire with bob this little oh she's, crying Bob took the time covered her and tell her. We were all and everything's fine. Way. Bob always was not just that little girl, his girls, his group, we're number one on his list always always no matter how much hope he knew he was always there. Robert pointer had three daughters, a six and a half year old, with tracy and from his first

encourage Natalie and nicole the things you miss the most are simple things like being able to call him. He will see him and hug him. You know back in two thousand. And ate his twenty, your marriage to their mother, Amy pointer his high school sweetheart, began to unravel signs start showing up that something was amiss. He was sure with conversations he was at home as much there were excuse. When he was gone, then Nicole discovered her dad had a second. Cell phone. That was the initial realisation that there were somebody else an event see this other woman. You learn her name, it was jc tyler mormon. Tracy was a twenty year old, keen as a nursing. introduced to robert through a mutual friend from the first moment that I ever met him in person. We were never part after that. What was his marital status as

I knew he was separated from what I understand. She continued to go up to the station to canada. Let him know that she was interested and did that quite often, she pursued Bob. She pursued bob we ve been married. Twenty years on hairs, a young girl, that's giving him attention and I just think that she continued to train, No phil any need envy. There was seeing each other in December, two thousand seven and I was pregnant by may of two thousand and nine robert and j c, we're married on december twenty eightth too. thousand nine. She was twenty two he was forty. I knew I wanted to marry him. What is it about Robert? That you fell in love with his goofy. He would just make me laugh. Almost seven years later, cheesy says the couples love faded

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an hour after cheesy pointer, held her husband's bloodied head in her hands. She kept giving sergeant meek detail, if not of the shooting, with china to of the state of her marriage. Why would he tried to take your daughter with like what? did he give you as it sets? What's gonna hurt me the most daring her story, give an all these different twists and turns in pieces of information that just warrant vision in the place of a puzzle talking about marital problems at a time when your husband's body is still in a cheap. Why did you go there? cheesy says three years into their marriage. The couple drew a part yet didn't really set it off. We slept in separate bedrooms I never felt he love me like he could have he loved his ex wife allied and I felt like she's so heartily According to chase he Robert had a temper he was taking,

starts torone and steroids to treat lo tan austrian levels and chase He claims that made him violent there be times you now. He would gladly about my hair and I get thrown up against the wall. So was very oh abuse and physical abuse is outright verbal. Mental physical roberts, ex wife, Amy doesn't that is our main. He dig it on treatments. He had normal testosterone for her that he had worried rage and all that that that just was I so she's lying to me is what you're saying yes, I am when Natalie was sixteen, she lived with her dad in tracy for six months, and ever saw him become violent, so it was useless to try to come to me and act like that with some kind of beast Did you ever see him slam chasing still wall, absolutely not natalie

Nicole, have told us that it never happened. Are they told the truth lesser they ve never really care for me from them. any. I was the young girl that came in and took their father She believed she had a good reason for not reporting the alleged abuse to authorities. don't walk out and announce. his beating on me, I'm not gonna do that, because it would jeopardize his job despite their problem, chase. He says she tried to keep the spark alive in the marriage. I don't mean to embarrass you with this, but what is this from this weighs down for Robert. I had a friend of mine who was photographer and she did a boudoir shoot for me. He was attracted to me after I lost all the way he you lied to me when I was heavier. Over a two year span, cheesy transformed her body, the first picture

is december about two thousand and thirteen. The second picture was december. Two thousand and fifteen I lost a total of two hundred and four pounds I got up every morning ran strict diet, worked out, not push myself for ya. chase. He admits she began seen other men a lot of man when I die the way I didn't hide and his shadow anymore. You had confidence threat. I started meeting people was going out more. I was doing things for myself. Natalie accidentally evidence on chases computer that her stepmother was cheating she about it. Facebook and she was talking to men on there that weren't dad what kind of conversations very sexual and gross Natalie says, while her father pulled over night shifts the firehouse chasing

often snuck out for hours at a time leaving Natalie and her then four year old, sister alone. She was never wearing gym clothes, but she always says she was going to the gym and often my little sister would wake up and she would cry and cry because she couldn't find her. Mom Natalie eventually found the courage to tell her dad about chase's cheating ways. I will stand up for what I know what I believe in and that to me wasn't right. You said what I said. I think Tracy's cheating on you deeply troubled robert filed paperwork for divorce, but ended up not following through he was trying to save the marriage. He had already been divorced, warts he didn't want loses his third daughter and not be able to be with her all the time Robert installed a security camera next to the front door to try and catch cheesy cheating with

one of her lovers, then, just twelve days before roberts murder, the doorbell- rang soon. As that doorbell rang, I was out the door telling him he had to go and off you runge and robert knew correct. I love him he's dead in the ass that I love on the night of roberts murder sergeant make had a hunch, cheesy pointer knew more than she was saying something just that right jc. Do you mind if I take some pictures of you real quick? Although she wasn't under arrest, she was read her right Look up at me, alright, listen to you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say, can and will be used against you in a court of law. Has a friend's house but chasing don't talk on talking, France, revealing what she was up to before that fateful rendezvous with her husband, whose elsewhere my perversion hanging out with someone named Michael Garza. Are you

Michael garza, dating or anything like that? We offer relationship yes. Well, then, that red flag but the jolly have a date was a date night. Now we we just don't. We We had sex watch more of the police body. Footage on facebook at forty eight hours the Ok. What we're sorry and I'm sorry he's contact turning to get a divorce and how I was looking for tat. We ve been married six years. almost seven years. Investigators say the more cheesy pointer talked the more she seemed like a suspect him grieving wife. We we go, we don't

got the hyperventilating now stopped and she's gone into this stutter talking then, as I dunno, which leads me to believe that she does these pauses, I turned to gather additional thoughts. So are The thinking is this a performance. Yes, sir, it started seeming more and more that way and a performance with a recurring character. Michael garza how's, this at Michael's house and Michael's house, well. What tell me his name again, I'm sorry, Michael Garza, Michael gorgeous, have a relationship. Yes, yes, yes, Michael Carson, who is he? He was a place that I would go to the vet and, and I for that. Tracy began having an affair with Michael garza after meeting him on face in the summer of twenty? Sixteen, this selfie captured one intimate moment It was something I feel guilty about. Robert shared

frustrations about tracy, with his buddies at the fire house, and I told them it needs gotta catch your losses, divorce sucks, but your miserable said, yeah you're, right, you're right, but I'm invested very exact words. I'm invested in this rob was hopeful. The marriage could be saved. He took jc and their daughter to mexico on vacation, but it backfire. We find that I was on the phone with somebody else and upset It was the wednesday the barber come home from mexico, so that europe was a good. some understanding this anymore. When did he die, not long after Tracy told sergeant make about the affair. With Michael garza of a transfer a female to waste any police Orban. She was dead,

in downtown to be questioned by detective Michael burke said read through the entire again started at two twenty in the morning, yeah last time, eight hours, I love alone. we had a lot of money. Issues me her affair with garza. I want them. There and she gave me detail about roberts, murder how many, see dark hole I don't know why, but I would do anything Why should you I remember hello

just like she ran away. they're, the ones It comes out to murder a random stranger in orbit red flag. Is that they don't let a witness go, and that suggested what do you suggest? She might have known the killer. no way, you're running detective burke, her power you, after in two hours, into the interrogation. Detective burke broke through you sure, mikey, as in Michael Darcy. How do you know cornered? She changed her entire story. She says she told

where's about roberts, alleged anger issues. chase. He told forty eight hours garza road with her that night. The plan was to confront Robert outside the jacket box and demand. chasing alone did see him put a shot gun in your vehicle. You ever saw a shotgun. How can that be true? I was on my phone garza tells me make right onto county, food twenty five. Ninety five then asked me what was going on. He said he's going to meet us here,

cisi now claims it was garza setting a trap. He told me to take my jeep backup around the first corner and let robert know that my jeep was stuck, and I need him to come help me. You had to tell Robert something to get him to come to the location. Right is there, but My deep wasn't stuck when Robert arrived. Noticed something kind of touching he war, the cologne that you on our wedding day and you haven't worn it sense, and I've made a joke about it and he laughed robert could never have a man and that he was just moments away from death. As I was walking to the jeep, I said: stop regaling stop to to garza, but why would you have shouted that way if this was just going to be a conversation between two men? Isn't that indicative that you shouted stop, because that meant

I don't shoot him now. I didn't at that point. I didn't want him to even talk to robert at that moment, sorry at that time, there is a gunshot degree say anything to you. Now on, not until after I called nine one one did he run up to me and he took my phone from me when he threw it down on the ground prosecutor. Jeff kvetch doesn't, any of it? The questions once one of those stories that she wanted to believe, hurt, scare him or just have a talking to. None of them are credible

investigators believed that you were luring your husband to this remote area, so he could be murdered. There was no plans to bring him out and murder him. There was no talk of that. on September tenth the morning after her husband's murder, Chasing pointer was arrested for can Spirits see to commit murder. The couples daughter would stay with chases mother. Did you conspire to have your husband murdered, lasting you're, telling me that you are speaking the truth? User investigators then set out to find the man who italy shot, robert pointer but Michael garza, the truck driver and hit the road

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the funerals, absolutely beautiful- that was mary ceremonial on september, fifteenth twenty. Sixteen just five days after his wife was charged in his death captain, robert pointer. laid to rest, we and guards guarding his earn his ashes, entire time, fire fighters from all texas honoured him did. Fireman's prayer When duty calls me. Oh lord, wherever flames marriage It is strange to say some life whatever be its age. I am a member trying to hold it altogether and there were also this when we walked out other fire sanctions and police came in and they lines from the church all the way to the fire station.

That types paying one of them, others things as they give the less coffer robber pointer. You still think that persons so they are somewhere that this couldn't happen. That's the thing with Bobby We had this underlined feeling than even if he had walked through are somehow that man would make it through. Amy says in the last days of his life Robert was finally ready to walk away from Tracy s. Kind of beaten down was tire where he wishes ready to get a divorce. I think she knew he is ready to move on. Investigators say just the day before he was gunned down. Robert had reached out to divorce attorney on facebook. Sending this provocative message, I'm thinking of a surprise attack. He said something to her about a surprise attack on me. He had contacted a realtor said he's going to the house at first,

He was gonna have custody of our daughter the next day he is killed. You think, that's just a coincidence, that's not That's why the murder happen when the murderer had. What was it attraction for chase? You with your dad was lover money. natalie, says: Tracy had convinced her father to change his almost six hundred eighty five thousand dollar life insurance policy. Instead of the girls, getting the money chase was made the primary. An official fishy. We believe that the motive she saw him is an atm machine and she was gonna the last little bit of money. She could get anything prosecutor, calvin, grogan, says investigators discovered a mountain of digital evidence, There are plenty of text messages after the life insurance, beneficial

as a nation change occurred in April, indicating that chasing point was looking for somebody that would take your robert and many of those tax. more than ten thousand between chasing and her lovers, she's having first with multiple men, then imams bread, golden shop birds are unlikely garza prosecutor believe chase. He began grooming garza for murder, convince in him that Robert was an imminent threat to sixty six, like man she's not going to come right out and ask them. I hate where you kill my husband, former jc porter plays the victim, and then she uses that to manipulate and so she told all of these men that Jesus abuse battered woman, she texted garza from that mexican vacation, where the couple what's to reconcile quote he's coming after me sooner. we're later Garza answers. F him no

I will shot that dude. It's Michael garza, talking about murdering your husband. I didn't think he was soon I didn't want him involved. I told him that this girl was this is brad I told her. She would be a miles every day every day around four, so he's the lover, hot, on the security camera, video he's tracy manipulated him very bad. the marriage and divorce is twenty four brad's. Chase. He told him. Whore stories about robert, rose used to I dunno she's, trying to get me to Jesus or ashlyn fall for whatever that I kept trying to get rid of a rational. Were you ever able to collaborate? Any of her story of a

we spoke to neighbours. We spoke to friends when there is no evidence to support it at all. She see had made allegations about birds, anger issues to ex lovers, sean butcher and danny memes, who she often texted days prior. the mark. I wish you run out of Erin a fire with em back, July eleventh. I need him gone gone geo, any all capitalized Danny mimms replies, I'm not a magician see answers. Well, I need one. Did you want him dead? I was upset shambles yourselves, the. What do you need to leave chasing pointer says? I would be back off with him gone benefits and can't lose cursed. investigators have said you were going from person to person. To try to find someone who would kill your husband. Was it the day before the markets from chasing the garth I've made at my

What do you think she's made up her mind about a thing, is pretty clear about killing rubber, the with Michael garza on the run, a swat team rated his house coming up empty, but the next day garza turned himself in and he was charged with robert pointers, murder He did not want to speak to us only one or two sweetwater. That's as far as we got with their tooth specks now behind bars, investigators hoped to find direct evidence linking garza to the murder five weeks later. That evidence would come from a farm very likely, dublin who on earth the murder weapon while ploughing this field

less than a quarter mile from where robert was shot that shot still loaded. The shell had been a in kind, there's two more in the matter. In there all man killing slugs, consistent with what the medical examiner said, was used to kill rubber point. We did a search bar I last eight thirty five old. I came back to matthew, garza Michael gorgeous brother, police now had what they needed. Michael garza would be the first to face trial I just happened to be the person was in cases life at the right time now, really temperature cases to. Basically this dangled debate Do you think she intended to secure her husband would kill him chatting?

with the forty eight hours tea on facebook and twitter. you mean was that there was nobody there. He was hiding from her bizarre performance. The night her husband was murdered to her confession about her lover, Michael Garza, bipolar issue. Broward investigators were convinced chase, the pointer was determined to have her has It killed that night he's around the corner. Investigators believe you knew about the mission planned the mission to murder your husband for money. That's what they say. Look at me, they're right! Aren't they nicer on July tenth.

The eighteen, the prosecution put the alleged trigger man, Michael Garza, on trial? He had pleaded not guilty when guards the stand. He made a shattering announcement implicating chasing says. That for his rather shaggy, because he thought that she was a bees. He implied that she did. It garza told the court he couldn't have murdered robert pointer because he was tending to a sick animal on the family farm buys that he was turned into Oreo. The cow So Margaret was going on the jury. Didn't find guards is alibi. Credible! I actually knew believe that his testimony helped us on July, twentieth, Michael garza was found guilty

and sentenced to ninety nine years in prison. It was a huge step forward, but it also felt like the real battle had just again: the pointer family. now focused on chasing and my mind. She's always pulled the trigger because she was the instigator of Oliver. What were you thinking going into trial, but I was very helpful. Prosecutors were hopeful too. They would prove chasing wanted roberts money. and she was the mastermind there's no way. Michael Garcia was ever going to get robert pointer out on that road alone only chase. He could do that and she player well using chases tax, prosecutes demonstrated that her alleged love for Michael garza was really,

Mr ploy is appalling. He's the dumb idiot. She get. The news in fact, garza didn't know that after he shot Robert Tracy planned on spending the night with another lover. She was texts and bread golden whilst things out their commitments, smarter, she had cipher bragged all the morning. They still planned made at that that what the heck is going on. I don't know I was out of control, chases defence attorneys, scott core nod and frank hughes, say this state, obsession with tracy's affairs tainted the jury. Casey have an affair, it has nothing to do with murder, just demon or shape Point or is not guilty of murder she's guilty of being an egg. Just because she should have anticipated that this garza would commit murder to get

You are calling on all one. One is probably the strongest point that we have in her defence, no more who planned to kill someone. What should we call nine one more, but the price computers argued at the sight of her dead husband chain, He had a moment of sheer it's one thing to talk about killing. Somebody is another thing to go through with it. While Tracy chose not to take the stand. Jurors did hear her speak. I was seeing someone through those reported to lease videos I didn't want to be married. Anyone one the captured this feeling moment at the end of her two week trial. The jury began,

deliberations. We waited for, while our to our three hours went by after the fourth. Our ok, then vertical guy see pointer was found guilty of murder. I cried and I'm relieved. They got it that they saw who she really was. She met him ass. She walked in. There. S death smiling dig when talking about tacos in cologne, she's, evil chase. You told me that you always had roberts heart. I think that's true She took away our choice of anybody of having any relationship or any future with him.

This is his bunker year having. It is almost like having part of his presence, which is comforting anyway and painful in another, how do you want your father to be remembered as as he wise as he really was, he was gentle and he was smart and he was kind he was rare. We were lucky to have him. This is injustice. True redemption and remorse comes from telling the truth. it's time. You did that he was it to die jurors sentence, tracy pointer to life in prison with the possibility of parole in thirty years

Are your tears now tears of what you did to your own life or tears of what you did to him? robert pointers, like insurance benefits, were split ominous: three daughters, cheeses, muttering stepfather, sheer custody of the cup, his daughter with robert point, whose parents

I was nine years old. My whole family was gone. I had just lost everything. No one should assume that we saw that morning, thirteen years later, a stunning arrest, I believe he killed his family and then was able to go to the prom forty eight hours of saturday at ten nine central city as the original reporting. The hay prime members You can listen to the forty eight hours per gas ad free on amazon, music download. The amazon music ab today or you can listen ad We were wondering plus an apple pie. Gas before you go tell us about yourself by completing a short survey of wondering dog com, sledge survey.