Very very welcome Where did you thought supplied cast presented by the gm see canyon? Eighty four x, Friedman, Merrick dealt with you once again. coming up on this park ass. We will talk about the flood of fires, situation, Marty wash talking to agents the draft lottery, conor buttered, my Sullivan, Gabriel landeskog MIKE Babcock, the games on tuesday but elliot up for a game that could change a significant any child, franchise, forever game for the panthers look for a sweep against the may beliefs and if they, pleaded cue the chaos that's later on tonight, gonna put on my day, I talked about her. There's an overriding feeling of shock that list two weeks after bidding tamper bay, all the good will is god.

And I have spent a lot of the last forty eight hours, trying to figure out exactly what I and the best answers that I can give you is that anything could have and no one would be safe. and beyond that, what else there is to say, This came out of the draft lotteries. You mention we're gonna talk about that. I am discuss how the draft lorries the franchise altering night in the inn, each l instead, I could be a franchise altering night for the maple trees one of the conversations I was happy, today with people was what's acceptable out of this, like them believes win wednesday and they lose friday. That's not gonna be good enough, but the main believes win wednesday and they were

friday, and they put a battle at the end of the series and who knows maybe they even where, by what, gonna, be acceptable, now vigorous seven and then lose out. We're going to say okay the year. when a great fight, or we're gonna say: forget it they blew it early and that's all that we remember and the most him One thing is how ownership view said Anne I think we have a good answer on that, but the one thing I think we All do know is that if they lose Wednesday, there are major consequences: and someone said to me well, I've heard this before, and this is different now contracts or up that. We always talk about how insert places the clock is ticking or the bill,

comes. Do were there with toronto. Now because contracts are coming up or people have to be extended and now you're in a position where you actually I have to make decisions on the cornerstone, people or the executives, and they haven't been in this situation before so. This is different, and what friends, Wednesday, could be a major factor you're in determining where these choices girl, like you, have thought a lot about. and what are the scenarios and what is acceptable and hears thinking on it. My way this case scenario for the maple leafs. In tat. They lose on wednesday, Elliot worst case scenario is that they went on Wednesday. And they lose friday at home the visuals this Of that rank

the emotional reaction not just in the ring, but in the city of toronto as well as you know, will, the over welcoming bs, agree or disagree. I agree I understand exactly what you're saying. If you lose on wednesday The anger doesn't come in the arena. No, it's kind of to what I was just talking about a couple and ago. Why is the result in round to from here saved. You from embarrassed you all yes where. But if you look whose what is it- and I don't have a good answer for that. I'm with you now when you say at every level that is about the general manager is well like you're talking about everything is on the table, Someone just said to me: anything could happen. the emotions are high right now and, like all say, this

have to make your decisions quick, someone's said to me we're already in the second week of may The draft is seven weeks away, people don't like to wait that long. so you're gonna have a situation where you're gonna wanna decompress, because you shouldn't make decisions when you're emotional, There is really not a lot of time and One thing someone said to me is we're talking about pittsburgh here believed believe that principle willing to wait a little bit, so someone said to me on tuesday, I'm not going away that law so either biggest thing is how long they decide to take a deep breath and do what they need to do. But, like I said someone just said to me, anything What I would assume, though, here is with these com, associations already have been had if this house and then we do this. I have.

Hard time, believing that the people there will make this decision wait for wednesday and then start from ground zero oil, think you're not wrong, but I the sheer emotion and the pendulum swings from Why do you six in tat but to where we are now? It is not everybody for a loop. What do we know now shows walls starting golly, yep our giordano is the seventh defence men or he's not playing the cor for matthews. Marner talked really defiantly yeah. I mean, I think it shows leaders shall we want to be step off, be there for the team and and try to actually go out there competing and lead by example. How do you deal with pressure at a time like this just go out there and play That's what we've been doing a whole life

I really focus too much on the outside noise. You guys are saying what everybody saying I mean it doesn't really matter. All that we can focus on is how we approach this game and the mental side of it coming in with a purpose and focusing on just one game here coming in when you talk thinking here or there can test- I mean here- I've heard often said anne. I think we've been saying this whole time. I mean we don't care what you guys say. We don't listen to the guys outside of the lock room, we're just focus on ourselves and this group in here. How much do you asked, and I don't have a problem with that sk I should be mad, but what they have to do is there the channel it in the proper way, like the thing that I the thing from toronto. Is They know what is at stake here. Those players. And we're gonna find out do they want to stay together? If they want to stay together, they lose go down. Are these

guys if we're gonna go down you go down with an effort that people say they competed if they go down mildly. They answer the questions for all of us. Whence they could be wild folks, Wednesday could be wild ok elliot before we get the tuesdays games as back up to gain. We haven't talked about yet, and that is the biggest called, the knights and the edmonson oilers Monday night game, three convincing win by the vegas golden knights and a redirection by stephenson who gets up the ice in a hurry, great skater and for stevenson doesn't try and do too much with this puck just get a piece of it changed the direction it'll find it's way through jack Campbell it into the den five one vegas for the golden knights team. That was first in the pacific first and the west. Fourth, overall in the nhl, you knew I'm gonna wilt away easily, whose task wanted to push back

you're. So far, a lot of time left man There has been some wild play off in the second round. With there was miss scores. This one ends up five to one shot. The marshes so with a pair of goals. lauren bourgeois with the injury jack. I go the command performance. What stands out to you from game through between these squires vegas grabbing its outta one seriously. Either and stood up to me or to things number one aden hill? I felt terror. four bourgeois just awful guy came back from an awful lot and we do have faded cruel mistress job and he deserved a better fate than that, But even here I thought came in, he immediately got a tricky, save right away and then you don't think edmonton test. Enough, It came out really hot dry sidled one posed for islam made it couple a great says, immediately, they got a good chance on hill and I was like,

kay, they're gonna really challenge this guy, who still pretty called just never happen, deal vegas, alot of credit. They shut down the others attack the five five thing really worries me for Edmonton right now. You cannot expect to win on power, all the time and the players, and you get a night and say we should have got more power. You know what you're he's gonna get knights. Were you? Don't get a lot of calls and you to be able to win well that's the case, and that was a night where they had no chance without it can have that further amplifier raising is we ve seen teams before and we haven't really seen it with edmonson, mainly because they haven't had to play like this, but in elliot. How many games have you seen where teams say you know what five on five were going to play fifty fifty park here and we'll get a your chances on our power play.

Can it be our thought going into this? One Edmonton never had to play like that. it's weird- it's almost as if they need like the sugar rush of a power play to get into the game, and they need candy early in order to get themselves into the game. So they do. Really look comfortable, saying we need to play fifty fifty parkin and wait for our power play chances year. That is, that is not a comfort zone for them. or is it I'm a guy who really appreciates the sugar rush of a good piece of work? And I really like that analyses or even talking about like chocolate, cake, then in my region and sugar and syrup- and somebody was really posting me about how well I knew the dairy queen menu too, like I, people are just all over me for this, and this The thing like the skinner thing is concerning me right now, because I thought this was over. He had a really nice game too, but he got pulled again and things skinners your guy,

Don't you know what else is really? Concerning Jeff, I had a conversation with a coach He said it's easy to talk about someone else's team like this, because he doesn't even know if you would do and on his tea leg. craft is gonna, be loyal to bouchard, he's gonna be loyal to nurse and that's kind of the way is by east if he was looking at it from a purely cold hearted way, he would try to bomb. Those guys down in line up- and I said How do you do that, and he said it is not easy, but you play at home a time. and you rotate his partners try to avoid putting those guys up against the best players, because can't handle it right now, That's really tough one. like I said he admitted on his own team, you didn't know if you would be able to do that, but looking at another team he'd be thinking

would be that the ruthless I think he would have to do that, town? That's what we do in media. We talk a lot of crap the back seat. Yes, yes, hands on the wheel that that's our job, not me. I said you'll be perfect on the panel, that's very good job. I should say that to fight You like he says that they ve got a real problem there, like those guys are struggling. wait a bit and when golly struggling you. Can I have your defence struggling especially your PA pairs. It's a recipe for disaster. You have concerns about of Andry kane doing what we saw that game at the end of the first period, namely charging it Alex Petrov Angelo with second left, why? did the golden nights responded to the challenge of their coach and whose They were not a tea. They, the heat is the steward line you're a cop. I'm not a team and game too two they were a team for guys, went right. So keen,

oh god, I'm sure came. drove them crazy and gain to. It was true, do the same thing again, I'm sure that would crowd will talk to about you. Gotta pick your spots better or elsewhere in trouble. for between the biggest golden age and they had been throwers goes wins, quick, rake, we're back to talk about the hurricanes and the devil's hurricanes, putting up six adele stars in seattle, crack in dallas putting up six. That's this into the thirty two thoughts by gas ad free on amazon. Music with Oh you, tuesday, night successes were wild for the victorious teams. Caroline hurricane six, one of the new jersey, devils, a seed, the dallas stars, six three over the seattle cracking before we get

the late game was face off with the early six to one. This was again there was never really in doubt, and this was a game where you know it's always entering he really coaches after blow out losses, sunday, rod, Brenda more did not mince words after his team fell eight before the house. Of the new jersey, devils and lindy rough was equally despondent and I would argue, disgusted as well, and his team effort can explain what turner Secondly, that is a hard not to explain, that's about is poorly. We stated in support of the park any game monsieur. I thought macleod line gave us put ships with puck support. hard to give up a goal laden period, but and the dead body of a key player did that goal kind of deflating no chance Hello, one goal plating, red patchy In the back of the neck, your guy brent burns finds about

could the net as well. I will flip this back in the new jersey, where he for flash gets Jesper fast, scoring sport, all the post season carolina for the top of the right circle, pad a check for the anderson with the wind vita advantage check with the last carolina. Now the new jersey devil to the brink of elimination. They led the series three two one: jordan, martin, not united with jordan Martineau and also not only the jordan martinek score that goal at the end of the second period, but further a gorgeous bats to martin natures for one of his two

agents one we gonna want. Only that of all that it allows. George research should be getting a bit saw. Would the boy in new jersey or some other choices, the waste management, just a cloud of the neutral zone? The transition touches every quarter because we use who started the boy is done in the middle of the ice, It's incredible. He had no points in the first series and now is a top and score in the play. I just got here on this team this energy, energy energy? That's that's what I try and bring em it's not Not sexy. It's just going to go out and work, and I think that's kind of

mindset of our team, so I fit in well here. Well, you now have four straight multi point games nine points of the series. We thought you had ten minutes away. One of yours says I told you that going in what would he have said as long as we were up three one, that's what I would have been happy with if I am contributing great and it feels good, but to be able to we have three one going home. I think I would to take them take him out over any amount of points there. stand out there. They keep. I guess guy like water. Cyril points in the first round. He's got the second most points ever in the next series, only landing thought I'll it tv series in the east while had more than him. While hats. Off to ever came up with that. One down the kind of recipe, the carolina wines with it. There d- like cabinet, a great job of showing how they ab lately, shut them down at the blue line. They just

thought new jersey in their tracks. They didn't let them enter the sullen one of the goals. I think the one one goal was a slave made an incredible play with a stick in and led to the counter the tide it that way carolina clinic. You cannot call Brenda more a liar. He said they be better and they were. I was. a very, very impressive win and they own. After they got scored on they own that game I was a little surprised by lindy ross, pose game comments. Now because I necessarily think he's wrong by just because I, The teams, given it a really good ride and when I heard rough, and I listened to what he said, I kind of divide: the old. Maybe this was like A coach was really love. This rhine, like this year,

has been so much fun there for all players in the team that they thought they'd be good, but they were good has been so exciting and I just wondered I urge you arrive if he thinks it's coming to an end linden in the lock. Afterward. He goes talking about how the team didn't have enough pushback. Were you surprised at the effort there? Even when we did not, I'm just telling you I dunno what team shoot where we went, we didn't skate, we didn't support Our defence didn't move their feet finally, the zone, all the things that we did so well, the previous game. We would go, didn t look at the goal. In god, didn t we don't move our feet, we don't go north. We we go east west. We go deity back today. What usually means death. There's there's not a lot I can say about. I mean tonight, was probably disappointed. I am of a game I've. You know a crucial game,

with the way we stated in a way to save again, they they can afford They competed harder and parks and one more battles and read it. We are on the wrong side of the second goal. Our defence coming back on the wrong so wrong, man, let a guy walk in, so wrong side, part the a man after an we don't stop. We Go away. We give machinery from the slot stuff. That's not typical! For our club they got in trouble against the rangers. They came back and won the series. always seemed confident to me. This was the first time I watched them in the post game and I said I'm not sure the lindy rough thinks they can win this and that's painful, saw me I'm over thinking, Jeff that's what I saw now

I am really curious to see what they are going to do for game five and goal. If it was me, I would place made either. in your best coolly and apply us and go down with my basque ali baba as you know, I've had There's nagging suspicion that He could see blackwood we'll see What he does he never. Epps his hand. Do schmid, but a wooden shock me. If we saw blackboard this This is close out here. This is desperation. and the moments that seal did. I mean this was pretty obvious me there a point in this game, where carolina scored four goals in five minutes and The new jersey devils. Just couldn't stop it. You know what they did, no matter what they tried, they could not turn the tap off. It was just spi bag.

They were just getting speed bagged by the carolina, hurricanes and impressively enough to- and I always remark on this when, where, when carolina puts up a sick spot which able to do seemingly a well. Sometimes you know no special car. no patch, ready, no terrifying, and still this team scoring at will at times scoring suddenly and often like that five stretch similar score a duck. My head down to write a quick note about it for the pod gas had look up again and there's another celebration. I really felt for lindy rough, because I know I'm I'm with you and he's been Lenny. Rough has been through a lot this. He soon with the new jersey daily as from the beginning with the chance, and then the fund, with the apology and the winning streak in and all of it in fighting, were tooth and nail right down to the very end of the season with a hurricane dry. Being prepared. The rangers gettin blown out and the first to play off games and then stormy back to beat the rangers in the bottle. The hudson its banana ocean year

I really emotional year, full Lenny Ralph, so I can really feel for the guy after analysing to impose game by the way Jeff on the black. Would there Peggy sue ban mansion on he asked pierre the night before came up for that he thought it. Might black. Would someone said to me the peak ask you about what you said. and my response will eyes. Do you think issue, ban listens to award, I say no, we shall see who's in starters, nets downstairs in seattle cracking was very much doubt his night, although late jaded shorts and Adam Larsson, tried to make a game of got the game within two packs, but then maxed o me with the empty air max tell had a really good game. Two goals in one system was yes, excellent,

was good all night long, even roger is returned to the light up as an assistant hardly go here in this period, hardly on the left wing side, gotta down into the corner, the crowd of noisier glided pledge arena I know the game in seattle before things shift back to dallas thursday night here is hardly slicing and beating it and to the left side space for dolby from the dot shot. These are going to be a major complaint on mccracken side. As true power was bumped. Do you signalling to their marriage as the placards coming off the back of the neck and back out in front again at all for now domey, appears to have made it three. Nothing. It's another great play by thomas harley with his legs and rhubarb. Well, out of his creese and Jimmy Ben,

had been shot by susie. A little bit to regional question was draped all over their net minor. What did you think of the the domey goals Did you agree with the review or not Dave Jackson did a really good job explaining that. about how that was, incidentally, contact and I agreed with them. I thought it was fine. It was outside of the crease and jamie then has the right to that ice. At that moment, I had no problem with the call. Did you not like it? I had no good feel for it, other liked your didn't like it. I just I look at these and I have an idea of how I feel no feel for this one, because I actually I grew bower was in the crease. He wasn't, though, the easy wise we had with. skate. He was yes would escape. He was in the crease, but then, when the moon of contact with the glove occurred on the shot that pull them off of his line. That was outside the crease

and you know what my rule is and what it, what batman rule to the league is you ever have good reason for taking a go off the board. I think they thought grew bower embellished, That's why they they gave it to me. tat one. I do not have a good feel for thou art, the dallas stars tie the series up ad two's heading back to dallas. Six three is the final wondered about jake oettinger, but I'll. Tell ya, and coming out of this one matter better, I know wasn't really tested. There was the volume of shots. They come up with a consent. Assign how oettinger is right now, but To me, the star, the whole thing was was mere hastening s. Thirty, one minutes and two seconds a vice people over half the game. If, Every time you looked up, you saw miro, hastening and used.

Yourselves jeez. What's this guy doing playin half the game, yeah, you re good call. He played half the game and morally it yeah he's got in, and this is why, like really intelligent, reporters put him in the top three of their norris voting I sit on the on the monday apply. I thought it was likely he was gonna play in and he did and and you know one of the things I don't know how many people saw the broadcast the cabin talked about how there were times he was supposed to wear a bubble. oh visor and he refused to do it, because you didn't think he could play properly with it? and you said his mother would call him and his wife would call him the trainer would say you can't play without it and he would tell them all to get lost because you didn't think he could play properly with it and I wouldn't make fun of what about that, because I know if I good enough to play in the jail. I would probably to do the same thing like

is that when I was a kid I played iser of food, visor, and at times I got the opportunity to play without one, and it was very hard for me to go back and where why? So, I would probably try to do the same thing now. The thing that struck the about hey skin, was not only how good he was about the level of intelligence he showed to, and I'm not that, generally, I think, is good and not a bright guy. Both go I could watch the game and saw how many times he avoided contact like their word he turned away from heads. There were other time. he could have initiated heads. I need you didn't. Do it him minimize the contact on himself, and I think that song, important and so intelligent for what he needs to do. It was only the fact that he showed up and

good. Is it wise and played thirty minutes? As you said, Jeff, if at all We played a highly intelligent game where he didn't. Wars, bodily contact or take body contact unless The absolutely has to end slave and was always the guy deserves more attention. It deserves. More attention deserves more attention, yup, Hayes is that guy he hears women only Women only underrated in aki circles Dallas the urine vancouver at that point. I sat down with max domey and asked him. I said you know who's. The guy that you knew was good. We had no idea, he was that good until he got to dallas, and you saw him practice and you're on his theme Without missing a beat mere hasten, yet again, adding a talk you on that last question. He asked was a mere eyes cannon honestly like I knew how good this guy was, just especially from playing against them a little bit

in where the same division with the shore. she's in the bubble and all that stuff, so pretty in quite a bit of like this source. he's unbelievable, but now plan with, unlike you see em by starting tonight, is the best nice every single game. It's absolutely absurd. I mean you see David get the parking and take off through to the nutrition. There's really know when they can set up. A kind of everyone knows that I play where I just saw miro take two strides and he just kind of kept a stick right there and I was like wow if that is that is absurd and and honestly everything he does. He he just makes so many incredible plays, and he makes everyone around him better and we're very. lucky to have them here. I think he's one of my favorite players to watch and definitely play with so he's a he's, unbelievable. So no why is there a one thing I continued to be impressed with yanni gourde. I know it's a losing cause and jaden Schwartz with a pair. He was really good. Adam Larsson makes it to five three in this one, but there's a moment again. I just love you.

Lord there's a moment right after jane short, scored to make it five two and Jani gourd is standing right beside ott injure. ah conjurors getting up from surrender the gold by schwartz gourd, gets in his face. I we say I have no idea what he said to him. I'm sure it wasn't a you know why, for our having a barbecue this weekend, once you in the family come work, I am I'm pretty sure it wasn't very nice, but it was more of that play off intends Yanni Gourde, it's a goal Makes it five to enjoy The gourd gets a chance of getting jake, ought injures grill and heat exit. It's one of those tiny little things that you are. You kind of notice in a play off series, if it's a tuesday night and in Dallas, you know very short, scores gourbi tissue appeals often and goes to the celebration circle, but in this case He stands there to bark roger. I just love stuff like that.

I know it's tiny book on his trivial, but I'm tiny and trivial, so I just They now want to get yanni gourde on the lobbyists continued. Impressed with him in these play you a final thought on on this game. Here, a couple of things they put jason robertson on the eyes with the empty. Now gotta get him go and he had chanced to score and he didn't they. slowly need him needs. Why lucky that break away the first period in the guy, I scored. Eighty seven goals in the last two regular seasons in a regular season. He buries that It's like who scored the at school for florida, E3 in three against toronto. Jason Robertson needs an asshole. He just need something to go in for that kind of a heavy. Yes, I think your It would think it was tricky like britain needs that he needs and ask all the other thing, thought was interesting, was cheered, mccann chairman

didn't have an overly noticeable game, but that's the game where you kellerman there to get his feet wet for the end of the series. This is now two two series org at least six and nobody's gonna, be surprised if you're going seven. That was the get his feet wet game for jr advocare by the way, showed up at a great hat yeah. Then he got that game he'll be back, in five and six and seven that was important, Why do I always remember, was two thousand six stanley cup final era call the injured during the regular season, we think you for the year. shows up insects. Inhabitants into play, and he was in great played in march, but then he was ready to go for games seven and carolina one, the cop, and he was better

always remember that I look forget your feedback games that was the cannes you'll be allowed. I'd better for getting this one in at this point. carries the series thou best. Two out of three the venue shifts the Dallas game far and thirst. ok ellie will finish up the other podcast tonight with the with the news of the day and the speculation of the day and the wonderings of the day. And how much do you wonder about MIKE Babcock and the new york rangers as their coaching sir, gets under way here, it's been a lot of rumours about. Could the rangers get MIKE Sullivan is, is MIKE Sullivan, a realistic possibility here. I think that's the rangers tree

yo. Some of us have like three straight jab, like you go to bed at night and you dream about scoring the in ball in overtime of seven of the stanley cup file or designed data breaks off her relationship with Tom HOLLAND to go out with you or you know something like that, you know and a dream about ali. What's that? What's that I dream of being able to sleep more than four hours a night, but it's the stanley cup playoffs. So I know I won't as the level of my dreams. Right now I have a dream that I will not hear my eyes one go off, adds at six o clock or six fifteen. That's what I dream about The only problem is you wake up to early? That's what I do and driving up early I believe the rangers dream for coaching is mike solomon owl rumours coming out like what's the possibility of this was the possibility of that, I think

it's the guy, the rangers would love to have the problem. Is he just gotten? tension in pittsburgh up and they sickly. These sided with Sullivan in a battle with on headstall about personnel and things like that, but one thing learn Jeff, crazy stuff happens in sports Things happen you're like holy smoke. I did not see that coming as a matter of fact say holy smokes. I saw the exact opposite of that happening. So it happen sure, I would be really shocked if it had. I don't see that I dont Thanks Sullivan necessarily is available. I do wonder of babcock, is on their rate. Are I think one of them? things here is its hard to see the rangers going new. Just doesn't fit their em. All you mean they shouldn't go? New is just

their m o is not to do that and oh, if solving, is not available, who else kind of fit the bill. You know babcock is wash. Jane went pretty far down the road with him when they hired bitter love. The lad I some suspicion, although I'm never going to find out cause it's not that anything he would ever met, but I would. I would think that the troika at least about the possibility of last year for they hired paneless extraordinary, Derek loaned. So I think I think teens have considered it, Nobody has necessarily taken this step I'm wondering how much the rangers are going to consider this. I think he's someone who's on their writer chris. During my look at her former teammate, which one Talking about your patrick, why the golden

are currently coach, nagorno karabakh, ramparts and the qm jh AL final against Halifax, it wouldn't Surprise me like war, also has the personality to handle that, Surprise me if he didn't at least look out for sure, some bad news, Gabriel and discard this was just this one was just crushing. You know you, you feel, for the player cartilage transplant is right. Knee surgery is today you'll miss the entire twenty three twenty four season. I know. Sometimes we joke about it a lot, but, like legitimately, he's my favour player in the end a child like, I just think selfishly this one just socks, I just hate it two years, without seeing Gabriel Landis god, you wish him all the best with the surgery everything that happens after and we cross our fingers and say hopefully, at the end of all, all of this for twenty twenty five. We have a favorite for the master tin trophy, which means it he's healthy enough to come back couple.

things your thoughts on land, as god and your thoughts the avalanche. Now with a little bit of salary cap certainty for next season. No, I can't believe you're so openly, cheating on Daniel strong. I kid it's not right. Sorry I had to find out like this Daniel with you on ladders. God I saw a marked with thoughts tweets about how he had that need. You couldn't come back and I and I hope, for landscape saying that he beats those eyes. Obviously done a lot of research. You heard him talk about lawns, the ball in their players that their research his time, What are you? I love most abandonment. Actually, Kelly really talked about this behind the scenes on Tuesday night is his attitude, I mean, like I said back in April. At that point we come to the conclusion in that coming back and playing the plan, was it wasn't an option and was gonna be

some wicked. Do we continued exploring and done. More study in in the last month than I have since since high school, so extensive research on my end and and with the help of our medical staff on the team and and I've talked to numerous doctors and medical experts and and gettin opinions learning more about what the different procedures would be, and this is the one. We feel like it's the best best way forward and the best solution for me to come back and play hockey again. So it's been, it's been a process, but I feel confident and in the decision and I'm excited to get going and excited to to to have the first step out of the way I want it like you looks positive as he always does and he won't let returned. But even be part of the conversation like, I think, if you're good These successful you have that that mindset and sold No other option

clearly wants to play. He doesn't know want to just be a guy? Who goes and I are and collects a check? the next few years now he wants to play and if that your goal, you to be single minded of purpose, and I, of land the scarred for that with you on your show on tuesday about how the other word is that, whatever damage kind of credit, like all underneath, his knee, the fact he's getting a transplant seems to indicate that something like that is the case. For the avalanche. I think they ve. right assigned byron before an element. His extension kicks in, they do get el t, our relief of land is god, although its trick here in the seas of seasonality. Irish trickier, by to me, the The question is what

by rooms. Number gonna be because I think they ve tried to sign him colorado. active about this stuff. They try to get guys time, so Dad says to me is so far they haven't believe. to find a number that fits, so they all that to me is the big one. How do you get I deal done with byron and then, where are you going from their physical of other decisions? For me, with his before whether its gigi coffer, whose appending unrestricted free agents, others alex newark, whose afore age in, albeit a restricted free age in here, so they I keep coming back to this idea that at least and again I'm with you see what the bone byron numbers out here, at least they the avalanche at these have a better handle on what they can do with their cap. There a bit frozen this year, not really knowing a hundred percent when land, as god was gonna, come back

He was gonna come back as we're on under the belief, is going to come back before the playoffs. This year, and then it was maybe some time during the players and then shut down, and now we find out this news. a few flyers and their search are we getting closer to having president of hockey, operations in armenia closer to having an interim tag removed. I think prayers, and from tat is gonna, be removed the soon. I just think that president search has come to a close to the old, like failure to begin of this search, it was a little bit sloppy, something he's got out in one of the tricky things wise was an interview was the conversation, sir. Then I tip my cap to them. They've done a better job at keeping a quiet yeah. I don't like that. I don't like it either, like what people act professionally around the edges, I, like I'm professional behavior. I have heard that people of kind have been told that per year,

is gonna have huge power in hockey decision making part of this job. I think there's at least here, the who wasn't crazy about whatever role it was gonna, be because embryo was gonna. Have the power, so I think It's gonna be somebody who's there it's a hockey person or a non argue person I think they're taking job knowing that that's the case you're one other guy, who I kind of wonder about. I dont know if he's a finalist or anything like that, but me have been interviewed here, is keith job so you- and I That's a really interesting name again. I don't know that these are analyst hear anything like that That was a name that somebody mentioned to me today. Is someone I thought at least at one time in the mix and somebody the philly was considering talking about and I can in the pan.

What really wanted to do here, like keys jones, if need somebody who's. A public phase lake. You know who disliked Keith chose nobody. Nobody that would be a really solid trace, as would be at all check, who yes or no. We should also keep top of mine. When thinking about the flier situation, I have heard what's his name for sure. It's just hard to handicap on this wednesday. wednesday morning, slashed tuesday night. In addition, to people like jones. all check. They definitely talked about others, who have kind have been in for offices for awhile who see the way things work. You can kind of was prepared to say, ok, here's. How we've handled this situation in the past, just people I been around and for them the reason I would carroll the likes of a dog wilson or a skype Melanie. I think that's also been on

he's right? Are I think, they're specifically talking to, one may be another person about what the contract could. Look like. Ok, listen! I know it's late, it, sir! It's one! Thirty am and you ve gotta get you're in a universe. You western mustangs pajamas on all purply india to bed and get in the wrapper and get your head on your pillow. But a couple more things before you get a deer purple, yet all good calgary flames and their search his gm and coach, nothing much code share. I think they ve got a bigger group. Did their goal through right now and or probably within a couple days or so of them. Cutting down that number and then going into the second round of their interviews. Couple more things

quick Marty, walsh, the executive director of the nhl players' association in one he first took the job. It was all about. Okay, I got to meet the players. I gotta get to know these guys. Gotta do the tours are going to talk to the commissioner and it sounds like now he's meeting with the agents. What's the latest, there are three agents meeting set up are one of them was on monday in new york, the other one will today, in LOS angeles, final one is next week in toronto, from what I've heard its unlike, The cap is gonna, go out more than a minute. in dollars being reiterated throughout that players are not willing to move on the escrow pro captain, and he understands that. I think there is definitely some abode arizona, the elderly, obviously what happens next weekend I'll. Just say this about arizona, there's a lot of people guessing. I think we ve learned anything when it comes to politics in the last few years. Is that don't don't guess I always room

but Margaret thatcher's line, which was doesn't matter what people think about you a month before. The election or a week before the election or day before the election. It's what they Think about you when they step into the ballot box I don't really any stories about it. I don't listen to people who are for we are against it, because I think it distorts think pooling. Now is an inexact science, because so many people, Don't answer their phones the world is so skewed to one viewpoint or another, so we will see what happens next week with the vote. I definite We feel the one way or the other. The players want some clarity on arizona, but those to be like the two are high button topics: your wall. She says I quietly confident guy in how he presents himself apparently the other guy who does some talking. There is ron hainsey nobody's, got more swagger thereon agency. So I guess they may quite

what a pair that's quite a show to take on the road to O. The sharp with a couple of things here: two things draft lottery night and honor bernard goes to the chicago blackhawks forget the brenner, draft lottery night, like you, don't through a career like we have without making mistakes, and we make takes its in front of people so then it before I've made stakes, I felt really bad for cabin weeks. I've already bad forgiven Jeff, I'm with you, I've been a worldwide punching back before I know what that's like. I felt terrible for him make any fought along. No, I dont, like other reporters who do, I feel, really for him and that's all all say about there being someone who's been in that position before I wouldn't wish it on other people, and I hate to see it. You know I wanted to actually just talk about that a little bit because a friend of mine called me- and he said like why, didn

you guys react to that on air, like you guys acted on air, that didn't even happen and I said you know what that's actually a really good question, and I explained it to him, and he said you should explain this on your pied, because I didn't know all so I figured I will. so people. We know the results of the lottery beforehand. we don't. You know that they do the lottery about an hour to an hour and a half before it errors and yield illegal ways puts the video out and there were three reporters aaron ports, Stephen Y know and frank. Sarah valley, who were and buried in the room, and you know I wouldn't I urge you to read their stories. Obviously cow. When I knew what happened It is a small group of people in and around the studio, who know but we don't know like it studio doing it live on sportsmen. At with David Kelly,

cabin we don't know who wins. And so when that happened here we wait, to the commercial break, and in this too I wasn't sure what we said and then like our ports sure, David Zuma, he told us what had happened and we were sitting here saying: ok, what do we you about this when we come back and it was actually my suggestion, I said: don't do anything and people were like. Why, and I said, do we know that he's right, Nobody in the studio knew that in what he said was correct, so I, said guys. The worst thing we can do is react to. It It turns out that that was some kind of slip up that the wrong

thing was given to him or the wrong thing was put in the prompter. Are the wrong thing was set in his ear peace? So the reason we didn't react on air was. We didn't know for sure that that was right. I just said we can't react to win if we don't know for sure in canada, like you said my boy, called mrs. Why didn't you guys react? Executes greed Nor was correct. The other One thing is that I did when we make mistakes were a lot tougher on ice than a lot of other people around us in and people will move on? That's life and that's a good thing. but in the moment like Jeff, we did, we just said we better not pay attention to it. We didn't know for sure. If that was, Actually, no I've I've made the joke before and it really is true in a situation like that. You're you're, not sure and you're not going to get any confirmation at that point, and you know you've this one out of me a problem, the times by now the old journalist's creed. If your mother says she loves, you get confirmation

so. Will you kindly gotta? We gotta exist so elliot. Obviously I wasn't surprised at all. I want Surprise at all that that was that I was our studios reaction to it just comes to reaction to the overall lottery results. I was shocked. I can't tell you how people around the league who I consider to be very smart people or convened then it was rigged. I know people go on the internet and they're all mad unfortunately with what happened there like ray? drag this was fix. This was fixed in again If fans are fans, I don't really have any problem with that. People react very emotionally bite like people in a league were like continues and stop. We're like this is a guys come. Why, like I listen, I had the same thing. I've thought about this a lot at the end, of every lottery everybody unless outside of the team, that wins is sour grapes and

I understand that in years on past. They just lose and their petulant about it. now they have something to point towards. To sort of. As the fight their little toddler, tantrums that they didn't win and it's a lot easier to say it's fixed as opposed I lost. That's her looked at it desire the exact same experiences that you talking to people and on my are you insane, like you, think this accounting firm gunnar risk their reputation to have gary batman, maneuver clutterbuck. I saw that one of via warn of the any giles biggest markets, not a chance, brightest I d like now. They have a target to articulate rage so that just sound like paddlers, who you know had had a toy taken away from them. That's how I looked at it and lottery

There. You go back to nineteen. Eighty five, with David stir the dry ice envelope with france and on your head of out of george down the new york knicks, Annie all the idea that build godard ends up in a big market team that look. I get why fan say these things, fans are fans, but I don't I for a second it's rigged. I just don't and my action to. dark going to Chicago was probably the same as a lot of others and I'm really happy for Luke Richardson's aim. so badly. He. Why are you John, had coaching job and when he got? job. He knew that you know he knew it built to lose and the odds were really stacked against human beings sexual there and then all of a sudden. The generational player ends up on his lap. I'm very happy for richardson. I don't mind the reaction of the black hawk fans, fans or fans, and it's the way they're gonna react, but I think it's important

I recognise that. Not everybody feels this way. You know for something lose out there? It's probably painful in, I just think its import. to recognise that on this podcast him- and I understand I do I feel safe. I think a lot of people that were and rightfully so legitimately upset that it seems like I wasn't that long or they were talking about the black oxen cow beach and now all of the sudden they get rewarded with with a crown jewels and where the best prospects to come along, in in quite some time. I understand how its upsetting, I think, a lot of us myself included that the punishment should have been more severe, and I think a lot of people thought that the black hawk. Should be even in this place? To be part of this, sir? This lottery for conor bodyguard, here's what I want to ask you about the blackhawks. Now there

forty one million dollars with a cap space to play with according to cap friendly for next season. Now it's not the most robust free aging class This is an organisation that has a lot of draft capital that they can turn into player capital. What do you think that I'll davidson does now around Conor. But because, as you all know- and everybody knows, every move makes, will be to service connor bodyguard. His career with the hawks. I think it's still a little bit too hard to say. Like the thing is this done, While this changes the corso direction for the franchise, it doesn't How successful it is prepared to be Gonna need a lot of work. I believe we all remember sidney crosbie, starting in pittsburgh. amber, alexander or virgin starring in Washington? Remember Mary Oldham, you, starting in pittsburgh, boy

parliament, David in Edmund one player, rejuvenate your franchise and excite your fan base and were sing it here right. one player, can't we knew stanley cup and the chicago blackhawks does it. accelerated a little bit yeah, it does but look at the roster, There is a lot of work that needs to be done here. This is not you going zero to whatever and drive survive and trying to win an f wineries like here still in the army the the nascar truck circuit right now, like you're, not ready to compete with the big boys know what this is now, though, what I do think is is a put you on the clock to you better make sure that your plan is good for getting players. The thing about the black says they were under no real pressure to get in

players quickly now there are under pressure to find. Good players. Quicker they do have some really dynamic young players coming like I, I think, under the assumption that Kevin cortines he's going to be on this roster next year after that, I'm not really sure how many how many young kids, they're they're gonna move in right away, but you know this is an organisation that has put a lot of good kids in the pipeline here when this They starts to happen not unlike what we ve seen with the buffalo sabres like the chicago got someone. That's now supercharged this rebuild like when it only starts to come together and I'm with you, this will not be in the first season, might not even be in the second season by third season and some of the younger players and free agents and trades start to become part of them since chicago anything trade deadline by the way next year is going.

yeah, fascinating one for kyle davidson. I really they do. This is gonna, be a team that gets better, maybe quicker than than they had imagined before lottery night, but now they have kind of a dark. Everything is different and hears I think, as well made my closing thought on what we saw on monday in the effects of its. I can't help but think how thrilled eastern conference. General managers are knowing that car, but guard and probably adam fantasy as well, are again to the west and they don't have to deal with them, so wizard you convinced that friend chile is going to. I think that these there is a strong, strong chance like it seems as if there is a drop off after one, and there is a drop off after two. I think, if miss calf were available to north America. Next season there the conversation at two for mitch, cough

as it stands right now, it sounds very much like after bernard's it's going to be atom fantasy. They occur might make it interesting, but I still think is gonna be financially my only a questionable bernard whose living with next year luke, richardson, it's not about one in sydney live with Mary, oh yeah. You're, still wonder about for salary cap purposes, but that's for another conversationally. It's that was seventeen years ago, let its better about that one elliot's! Let it go! That is an excellent. question I without will wrap up taking us out our twin brothers from manchester england george and Henry make up the ban, the flints you got, space thou site pop sowed the touch of seventies. Disco loves If card that are unique space for themselves in the uk, with their unique sound and from their latest e p, keep the party going here, the flint

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